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Speaker 1: Good mornings, sworld, and welcome to the No Duns Podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by Sleeper. It's Monday, October eleventh, and today's show

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Speaker 1: officially kicks off season three on the Athletic Network and

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Speaker 1: for some of us, this is wild our seventeenth consecutive

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Speaker 1: NBA season of podcasting. It's been a while. Happy Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: to all our Canadian friends and family. I'm still Jayski's

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Speaker 2: Feels good to be into the basketball world again, right, guys.

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Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of less complaints I think

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Speaker 1: Let's fire up this NBA season preview by tackling some

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Speaker 1: burning questions as usual, this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: five part series, new questions and new shows all week long, guys,

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Speaker 1: watch or listen, Lee, you got the first one, my man,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get us started here twenty twenty one, twenty

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Speaker 1: two NBA season preview or starting with a Biggie Most

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Speaker 1: Valuable Player, Lee, And before you make your pick, I

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Speaker 1: did want to show you the odds, or at least

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago from Bett MGM. These are

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Speaker 1: the odds right now, show everybody here on YouTube for

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Speaker 1: MVP of this year. You got Lucas the favorite, followed

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Speaker 1: by Embiide and Durant, and you got Jannis Curry, Lillard, Lebron,

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Speaker 1: You'll getch Trey Young, Devin Booker, and it goes on

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Speaker 1: and on and on. But Lee, what's your gut say

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Speaker 1: for our first prediction here?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to go away from my gun and

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Speaker 4: go with my head because the first name that popped

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Speaker 4: in was Kevin Durant because I think he was basically

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Speaker 4: my answer. But that's also a little boring. Of course,

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Speaker 4: he's a really good chance to win it. So is Lucas,

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Speaker 4: so is Julan beiand so is Nicolay yok Et cetera.

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Speaker 4: Et cetera. But all have solid cases. I'm actually going

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Speaker 4: with a guy I think could cause an upset this season,

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Speaker 4: and I'm going with Trey Young because I think, listen,

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Speaker 4: his playoff run was what really swung me. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: in two of those and ever since, really, when Nate

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Speaker 4: McMillan took over last year, Trey's season improved dramatically. Remember

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Speaker 4: the Hawks were bad fourteen and twenty under Lloyd Piers,

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Speaker 4: figures he'll obviously do that again this season for a

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Speaker 4: But here are the main three reasons why I think

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Speaker 4: And this is why. The statistical reason it's an Offensive

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Speaker 4: I think that really strengthens his case because he's going

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Speaker 4: Cam Reddish against the Bucks came out energized, ready to go.

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Speaker 4: I think though overall, if you look at that team

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Speaker 4: solid team, but it all sort of flows through trade.

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Speaker 4: When he was on the floor last year in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: the third one, I think he's got the story behind him.

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Speaker 4: This season nineteen games on national TV for the Hawks.

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Speaker 4: That's the same amount they had the last two seasons combined.

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Speaker 4: it shows that he's got the eyes of the league

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Speaker 4: I've made the Allen Iverson comparison before. I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: We saw him taking a bow in Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 4: He was shushing somewhat the fans there in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Why do you say somewhat, but some sort of controversy there.

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Speaker 4: But he loves the spotlight. He's star player, he can

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Speaker 4: score the ball. His team should improve the Hawks. If

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Speaker 4: the Hawks are sort of, you know, around five hundred,

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Speaker 4: obviously he's got no chance. But I don't expect that

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Speaker 1: I think I think most pundits have the Hawks. I've

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Speaker 1: it's Milwaukee and Brooklyn in some sort of order one too,

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Speaker 4: I just feel that those sorts of things. Again, sometimes

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Speaker 4: not out of nowhere, but he really stepped up this season,

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Speaker 4: whereas again Kevin Durant Yannis. They're fantastic player. Obviously they're

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Speaker 4: going to be in that running, but they almost have

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Speaker 4: to have like that superdominant season because people are kind

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Speaker 4: of like we expected from them. So anyway, sixteen to one,

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Speaker 4: give me Trey Young. I hope he can do it. Sure,

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Speaker 4: there's some recency by Sure, I'm a bit of a

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Speaker 4: to win because I love watching him play, and it'd

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Speaker 4: be great to see.

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Speaker 2: The NBA seventy five campaign. He's in those commercials with

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Speaker 1: Hey, I love what you did last year, Man, do

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Speaker 1: it again.

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Speaker 2: You did your.

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Speaker 1: Thing, man, Hey, I loved what you did in particular.

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Speaker 1: I loved the shooting, the passing, the dribbling, the freez throws,

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Speaker 1: a that's a that's a you know eleven, the same

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Speaker 1: take you're saying that was sixteen hundred. I mean you're

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Speaker 5: It feels like somebody's angling for some seats down there. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: just if you're asking me, I was the same as Lee.

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Speaker 5: My first instinct was Kevin Durant, and then I thought

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Speaker 5: that would be an excellent pick. Kevin Durant, He's not

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Speaker 5: even the favorite, despite the fact maybe he should be.

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Speaker 5: The guy's got a claim right there with Giannis as

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs last year, that guy can elevate his

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Speaker 5: game whenever necessary. I call it the Sandstorm game five

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Speaker 5: CADU forty eight minutes, forty nine points, seventeen rebounds, ten assists.

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Speaker 5: Last year, Kevin Durant went for twenty seven, five and

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Speaker 5: seven on fifty three percent shooting and forty five percent

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Speaker 3: I feel like we.

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Speaker 5: Kind of take Kevin Durant for granted at this point.

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Speaker 5: It's been seven seasons since he won an MVP, seven

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Speaker 5: seasons since he won.

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Speaker 3: A scoring title.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, he wasn't ever going to get the votes playing

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Speaker 5: But with Kyrie Irving at best a halftime player right now,

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Speaker 5: and I think he's going to be in takeover mode,

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Speaker 5: especially considering last season had an awesome season. Like you're saying, Lee,

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Speaker 5: he was in the mix for MVP, but it didn't happen.

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Speaker 5: He went down with an injury eventually, but now he

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Speaker 5: is coming off a season where he played with Team

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Speaker 5: in basketball mode now for or what eighteen months, And

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Speaker 5: I think that's really gonna play out well this season.

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Speaker 5: Give me Kevin Grant. Obviously, the Nets are still gonna

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Speaker 5: be a really good team. Even if Kyrie is not

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Speaker 5: playing every single game. The nets are still gonna challenge

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think since nineteen eighty five, only two MVPs

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Speaker 2: And it's it's not a sexy pick, no doubt. Trey

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Speaker 2: Not one picked Nicole Yokich. Not a single vote. I

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Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 2: is one of those situations where unless somebody overwhelms, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe no one's taking Luca dont I gotta

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Speaker 1: Like I showed you, it makes sense. His numbers are insane.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is the big key though for me, and

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Speaker 4: I just don't think Jason Keid was the right coach

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Speaker 4: And even if he does so to just load up

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Speaker 4: I'm not all that high on the Mavericks in the

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Speaker 4: to me just feels like Luca's almost got too much

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Speaker 4: And that's why I think that really affects his case.

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Speaker 1: My official pick, I guess we'll call it that. I'm

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Speaker 1: I think the narrative maybe is set up for him

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Speaker 1: can he play enough games? That's all what it comes

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Speaker 1: so that's still great. But I'll go with him because

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Speaker 1: and it's like you might cash out. Something insane could happen.

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Speaker 1: Do you have anyone well at lease pick and try young.

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Speaker 1: I'm picking Zach Levine for a shot the bad pick.

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Speaker 1: He's way down there.

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Speaker 5: I think he's like plus sixty six hundred or maybe

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Speaker 3: He's really really low on the odds.

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Speaker 5: But obviously the Bulls are the best preseason team in

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Speaker 3: That should translate to the NBA season.

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Speaker 5: As it always does, yeah, as it always does.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, actually it does. It does.

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Speaker 5: Zach Levine, you were the next Devin Booker.

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Speaker 3: We didn't see that coming. Some of us did.

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Speaker 1: Almos sort of alone the same lines. I guess what

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Speaker 2: They had it last year pick. They had it last

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Speaker 1: He got injured though at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have those rare occurrences like Russell Westbrook's

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Speaker 5: Always not Yanis is the name that should have come

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Speaker 3: Is that possible?

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Speaker 1: You're probably right he should be.

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Speaker 3: Like, he should probably be the favorite.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I just like it's at least right, it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk about the MVP table with you.

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Speaker 1: MVP predictions. Well, of course, we'll get to like Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year and Most Improved and all the award

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Speaker 1: You can go first the toughest team to predict? Which one?

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Speaker 1: Have you been struggling when you're trying to figure out

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Speaker 5: are not anything really to do with on court basketball.

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Speaker 5: The Nets with Kyrie Irving, it's hard to tell exactly

430
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Speaker 5: what they would what's gonna happen? People are pitching are

431
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Speaker 5: they going to try and get the fifth seed this

432
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,440
Speaker 5: year so that Kyrie can play home games?

433
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Speaker 3: A crazy take, but fair enough.

434
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Speaker 5: Also the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, we don't know what's

435
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 5: going on with Ben Simmons at this point.

436
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 3: We don't know who's going to be coming back in.

437
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 5: Return, and you know, if there's no Simmons and Joel

438
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 5: Embiid gets injured, who knows what happens actually with the Sixers.

439
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 5: But from a purely basketball standpoint, for me, it's the Warriors.

440
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 5: Steph Curry's going to be awesome. That was my mom's

441
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 5: pick for MVP this year. She said, who's gotta be

442
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 5: Steph Curry? Who else could it be? It could be

443
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 5: other people mom. Nonetheless, Steph led the league in scoring

444
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 5: last year thirty two to a game, forty eight from

445
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 5: the field forty two from three, finished third in MVP voting,

446
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 5: only missed nine games. The Warriors defense was awesome, Draymond

447
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 5: really had things going, Andrew Wiggins was tuned in.

448
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 3: They finished fifth.

449
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Speaker 5: Overall, So you got a great Curry season, an excellent defense,

450
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Speaker 5: and they finished eighth in the Western Conference at thirty

451
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Speaker 5: nine and thirty three. So the question to me becomes,

452
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Speaker 5: how do they not waste another absolute prime season from

453
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Speaker 5: Steph Curry. But the answers to that all have their

454
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 5: own questions. The first answer, you think, Klay Thompson's coming back,

455
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 5: that's awesome, But when is he going to be back,

456
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 5: still don't know, and what is he going to look

457
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 5: like when he actually does. His skill set makes you

458
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 5: think it's going to be fine because he's going to

459
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Speaker 5: be able to shoot until he's one hundred and fifty

460
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 5: years old. He'll probably approximate what he was pre injuries,

461
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 5: but he's still coming off two serious injuries. After that,

462
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 5: the other answers are question marks because they're either old

463
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 5: players like andre Iguidala, Namanya bi Elitza Otto Porter all

464
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 5: guys who seem like good fits but not guaranteed to

465
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Speaker 5: be healthy, not guaranteed to be contributors down the stretch,

466
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 5: or their question marks because they're really young players kaminga

467
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 5: moody Wiseman, really talented guys, but also not guaranteed to

468
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 5: be contributors because they're twenty years old. I'm personally pretty

469
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 5: bullish on the Warriors. Steph is Steph, Draymond is Draymond.

470
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Speaker 5: I think Clay will be fine if they're healthy. I

471
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Speaker 5: think they're at least close to where they were last season.

472
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Speaker 5: But it's pretty easy to see things going the other way,

473
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Speaker 5: right like if Steph Curry picks up an injury, if

474
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Speaker 5: he's out for ten games, if Draymond is for some

475
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 5: reason disengaged, if the young guys can't stay on the floor,

476
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Speaker 5: if the old guys look really old, it could go

477
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Speaker 5: the other way. For the Warriors, I think they'll be good,

478
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Speaker 5: but I'm not one hundred percent convinced outside of Steph.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great one, Lee, Where do you go

480
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Speaker 1: with this question? Toughest team to predict.

481
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Speaker 4: I had a couple as well, but I'm actually going

482
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Speaker 4: with the New York Knicks because they really had a

483
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Speaker 4: fantastic regular season last year. Forty one and thirty one

484
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 4: looked good, had home court in that first round, but

485
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Speaker 4: kind of got exposed by the Atlanta Hawks in that

486
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Speaker 4: first round that the Knicks were just a good playoff team.

487
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 4: Julius rand who most improved player, really struggled in that series.

488
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Speaker 4: And I'm just not sure they had a great offseason

489
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Speaker 4: for the Knicks because, Okay, Evan Fournier came in. He

490
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 4: does address one of their issues, which was another guy

491
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Speaker 4: who can actually sort of create and shoot and score

492
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Speaker 4: for himself. But again, how much are you sort of

493
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Speaker 4: putting in Evan Fournier being able to turn this team

494
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Speaker 4: from what happened to them in the playoffs into a

495
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 4: much better team. They pick up Kemba Walker for nothing

496
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: great on paper, but how many games is he going

497
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Speaker 4: to play? He said part of the reason he wasn't

498
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Speaker 4: playing back to backs there was because the Celtics management

499
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 4: said you're not doing it. He wanted to do it. Okay, well,

500
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 4: we'll see this season if Kember plays seventy games and

501
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 4: that I think is a great pickup for the New

502
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Speaker 4: York Knicks because he's still a young guy, can still

503
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Speaker 4: impact the team. But if we only get forty five

504
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 4: to fifty games out of Kemba, it's hard to see

505
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Speaker 4: how that team can really get better than they were

506
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 4: last season in the playoffs, especially. But I think the

507
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 4: real improvement and the real question mark comes from the

508
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 4: health of Mitchell Robinson. They're big center because they really

509
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 4: missed an interior presence at both ends of the floor

510
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 4: in the playoffs last season, and he's still out now.

511
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: They still don't have a timetable for when he's coming back,

512
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Speaker 4: and he's had foot surgery as well, which is never

513
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 4: a good sign for big men, especially you know, the

514
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 4: Knicks who need someone they just don't have. You know,

515
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: Neurlin's Noel, you know, serviceable big man backup, but not

516
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 4: the sort of guy again who's going to be able

517
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Speaker 4: to impact the team in the way that Mitchell Robinson

518
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 4: potentially can. He can catch those oops, he can block shots,

519
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 4: he can grab those rebounds. He's just a much more

520
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 4: impactful player than Nerlin's Noel. And then for the next

521
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Speaker 4: you know, Tibbs did his usual He kept loyal to

522
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Speaker 4: his guys. He re signed Derek Rose. You know, Derek Rose.

523
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Speaker 4: As good as he was when he came over from

524
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Speaker 4: the Pistons last season, he was almost it was almost

525
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 4: too good at signing. Was their second best player when

526
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Speaker 4: he came over, which I just don't think is a

527
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Speaker 4: great sign for the Knicks. He was probably their best

528
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Speaker 4: player in that Hawk series in the playoffs too, which

529
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Speaker 4: you know, again Rose, respect to him, his career was

530
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Speaker 4: basically over there for a point it looked like he's

531
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Speaker 4: really got himself back to stay on the court and

532
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Speaker 4: be healthy and be good. But I just don't see

533
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Speaker 4: him if he's your second best player, the Knicks being

534
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 4: all that much better teams, was trying to get him

535
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Speaker 4: to shoot threes here in the preseason. Okay, great, but

536
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 4: the preseason obviously doesn't really mean anything. So are they

537
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Speaker 4: a better team than they were last season? Or are

538
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 4: they just another good, solid regular season team? But really,

539
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: are they much better? Are they any closer to contending

540
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: for a championship this season they were last season? I

541
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 4: leaned towards them. No, and I leaned towards even though

542
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: their defense was great again in the regular season. I

543
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 4: just don't see that they took a big step in

544
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 4: the off seat.

545
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Speaker 1: What abuilt their own young players developing a little bit more.

546
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Speaker 1: J barrett'll be top end quickly. I mean, I J.

547
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Speaker 4: Barrett I thought was good against the Hawks. I thought

548
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Speaker 4: top and has shown some signs again in these preseason clips,

549
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 4: we've seen that he looks more comfortable. But again, do

550
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 4: they really vault that team up from from fourth where

551
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: they finished in the Eastern Conference last season? I'm not sure,

552
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 4: But I also don't think they fall out of the playoffs.

553
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 4: I think they sort of hovel around that sort of

554
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 4: six fourth to sixth spot. But I think that you know,

555
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 4: you look at them, you think they're not a legit

556
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 4: contender right now.

557
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 2: Solid. They're just playing old solidly. They're not going anywhere. Yeah,

558
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: it's a strange I mean, maybe RJ. Berrick can raise

559
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: their ceiling a little bit. But you get Kemba Walker

560
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 2: in place at Alfred Bayton, you're laughing. I mean that

561
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: team is going to be at least as good as

562
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: they were last year. A thick. So it's it's Eastern Conference.

563
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: There's you know, we'll get to Trey's bulls, but there's

564
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 2: some some fighters in there. We'll get some scrappers in there,

565
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: some raptor talk for sure.

566
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Speaker 1: What about you? Then to ask which team do you

567
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: you know you're struggling to figure out here in the preseason.

568
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Trey, I mentioned a couple unprecedented scenarios here.

569
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: We're talking about a guy in Kyrie Irving who might

570
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: not play home games. Why you know, I think things

571
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: will will change. I like to rely on history as

572
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: my guide, and Kyrie said last year I'm not talking

573
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: to the media. Eventually he talked to the media right now.

574
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 2: He says he's not getting vaccinated, but we'll see what happens.

575
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 2: I think that is obviously ridiculously it's hard to sort

576
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: of figure out. But the Nets are going to be fine.

577
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: They're going to be totally fine. It's crazy to think

578
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: that Kevin Durant MVP can it played less than half

579
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: the season last year, hard And played around half the season.

580
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: Kyrie played a little more than half the season, and

581
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: they were the second seed. And their team is way

582
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: better than it was last year in terms of supporting parts.

583
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: You got guys that Patty Mills that can fit in,

584
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 2: Javon Carter can fit in it. Right there, you got

585
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: a full season of Blake and Lamark Salt and Paul

586
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: Mills said, they're going to be good, and it's so

587
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: crazy to think that a guy like Kyrie can step

588
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: away and they're still going to be that frickin good.

589
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: They're going to be up there one to two. But

590
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 2: I want to go, you know, with that Ben Simmons chatter,

591
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: because they they are the reigning one seed in the

592
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference, but it sure doesn't feel that way, not

593
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: only because Ben isn't around, but we're just we're just

594
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: not talking about this Sixers team and Joel Embiid, who

595
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 2: was an MVP candidate last year. I guess because all

596
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: the air is filled by the Simmons talk. And that's

597
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: the only thing that's been happening the last couple months

598
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: in terms of NBA chatter at mostly anyways, you know,

599
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: we get on, get on our slacks, we get on

600
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: the athletic slack. What's happening in the NBA. Simmons trade talk,

601
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: what's happening in the NBA tomorrow Simmons trade talk? And

602
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: it hasn't happened yet, but I think it will happen

603
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: soon because because the unprecedented scenario, you see that one

604
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn seed this one with Simmons. He's getting doc

605
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: pay for each game that he's missing, and that doesn't

606
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: necessarily mean Philly's going to trade him anytime soon. But

607
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: I think it's it's it just can't last for months.

608
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think the athletic is going

609
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: to be updating it every single day from now until February.

610
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: I think it's just it has to happened, and it's

611
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: not going to be for a superstar. Lillard is not

612
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: going anywhere after that chattering the off season that he

613
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: wasn't happy. Bradley Beal is not ready to go yet,

614
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: maybe at some point later on. I'm hot on this

615
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: Malcolm Brogden rumor. I'm super hot on it. He is,

616
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, obviously a tier below those guys, and I'm

617
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 2: a Malcolm Brogden lover, and I'm one of those people

618
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: that recognize that Malcolm Broggen is never really going to

619
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: be talked about, so he needs some more he needs

620
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: some more chatter behind him. He's a very very solid

621
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: guy and he's not Ben Simmons in a lot of

622
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: ways defensively or able to finish at the rim. But

623
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: he is also unlike Ben Simmons that he's willing to

624
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: take big shots and so him with Joel Embiid would

625
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: be fantastic. And I think they make a move at

626
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 2: some point soon because they just have so much weakness

627
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: at the guard position. With Ben Simmons out, You're gonna

628
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: rely on a young guy in Tyrese Maxi, you might

629
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: rely on Shake Milton, or you're relying on guys like

630
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: Seth Curry and Danny Green and Tobias Harris to handle

631
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: the ball a lot. So I just they go from

632
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: first in the East, they could be up there if

633
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: they get a Malcolm Brogden in there, down to like sixth.

634
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

635
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: You know that the team that we saw two years

636
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: ago without Ben Simmons in the playoffs where Joel Ebid

637
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: was trying to carry his team. So they have a

638
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: weakness that they got to fill at some point.

639
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: And the latest I guess Ben Simmons news is that hey,

640
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: I'll go playing Sacramento final.

641
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: Boy.

642
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, so you know a possibility could a trade

643
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: happen there? Now you wouldn't think Fox would be included,

644
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: but there are rumors that they would do like one

645
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: of their young like a buddy healed, and then one

646
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: of their young guys like, uh, you know, either Mitchell

647
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: or or Haliburton. Yeah, and then they get Simmons to

648
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: pair with Fox and go from there. So yeah, you're hoping,

649
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: we're all hoping this happened sooner rather than later, that

650
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons gets traded, be it to Minnesota, be it

651
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: to Sacramento, be it to Indiana. I guess the one

652
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: that has been shot down is that Maury was asking

653
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: for everything from the Blazers in a McCollum like deal.

654
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: A lot of picks in Portland said, oh no, no, it's

655
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: too much, too much. We know you want to get

656
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: rid of them, and this is the problem, right, like

657
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: we know he's not even gonna play for you, Maury,

658
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: So like you're not getting everything from us. But maybe

659
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: a team struggles out of the gate that has high

660
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: hopes to make a playoffs or make a push, and

661
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: then you get a little panicky and the Pacers rumor

662
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: task a layer to that is well, they got a

663
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: new coach, they got Rick Carlisle and their GM Kevin Pritchard,

664
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: is like, you know, at a certain point you're gonna

665
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: learn like, oh, maybe it wasn't the coach that was

666
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: the issue. It was maybe it's the team you have

667
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: built here, and so you get a little panicky as

668
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: a GM if you think you're a you're sort of

669
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: on your last chance here and you make a move

670
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: like this and you swing for the fences. So we

671
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: will see a team for me, Trey. I want to

672
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: talk about your Bulls. I think they're very difficult to

673
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: figure out here because I'm I'm high on them. On

674
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: one hand, you watch them in the preseason. They look amazing,

675
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: looks like they're never going to lose a game. They're

676
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna set the Bulls record, Sorry MJ. They're gonna win

677
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: seventy three games. They're gonna tie the Warriors. But then,

678
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: like you do, wonder about how are they going to

679
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: stop teams? Are they going to be able to because

680
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: they made so many moves this offseason they wanted to

681
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: improve on a very disappointing eleventh place finish last year

682
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: and we got our own haul Injre at the athletics saying, ah,

683
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're improving on that because is

684
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: there enough shooting to go around? And then yeah, can

685
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: they stop guys? When you're relying, or you have to

686
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: play a lot of minutes too, like a Levin and

687
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: a DeRozan and Avucevich who are not above average defenders.

688
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Ravine's gotten better, but those other two, that's rough.

689
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: Talk me through it. What's your thinking? You can play

690
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: the home record all you want, Like, are they going

691
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: to be top four? Are they going to be just

692
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: in the play in? Are they going to unfortunately be

693
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: out of that? Again? What's your gut? Say Tray.

694
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 5: I saw Tom Ziller pitch the idea that they could

695
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 5: be third in the Eastern Conference, which to.

696
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: Means a blast stretch.

697
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 5: My eyes are set on the sixth seed this year's skeets.

698
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 5: I think the defense is being People are worrying too

699
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 5: much about the defense. They were fine last year. They

700
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 5: finished eleventh in defense. That's pretty good for a team

701
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 5: that coming into last season. You think this is an

702
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 5: offensive team as well. I don't like that Patrick Williams

703
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 5: is out right now. That guy's gonna be key to

704
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: them having sort of any defensive resistance on that end

705
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: of the floor. But I think they're gonna be incredible

706
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 5: on offense. I think the defense is going to be

707
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 5: a little bit better than people are thinking because Lonzo

708
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 5: can guard the ball and play in the passing lanes,

709
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 5: Caruso can guard the ball, and that was a big

710
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: problem for the Bulls last years. They always played a

711
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: drop coverage, which was a problem because their guards got

712
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: roasted at the point of attack time and time again.

713
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 5: So it was giving just basically a lane to the hoop,

714
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 5: whether it was Vucevic or Wendel Carter before that. But

715
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna be awesome on offense, and I

716
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 5: think that that's going to carry them through the season

717
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: for the most part. Not to mention they lost so

718
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 5: many close games last year because Zach Levine would carry

719
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 5: the team for three quarters and then the fourth quarter

720
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 5: he was a little bit guessed. I mean, he had

721
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 5: an awesome season, his best season. He gets better every

722
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 5: single year, but he didn't necessarily have the juice always

723
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. There was a lot of fallaway jumpers.

724
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: There's a lot of not being able to get to

725
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 5: the lane. But I think between him having more help

726
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: and getting more respect, I think he's going to get

727
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 5: more calls when he goes inside, and I think the

728
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 5: Bulls are going to be a better clutch team this season.

729
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: Talk me through, like the closing lineup for the Bulls.

730
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: You think who's going to be out there, Who are

731
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna be the five? If everybody's healthy, who would you

732
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: be playing?

733
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 5: If you're Donovan, I would be playing the starters for

734
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 5: the most part. Patrick Williams isn't shooting, Yeah, I mean

735
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 5: so Lonzo Levine. I think those are locks. I think

736
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 5: Caruso or Williams will probably be the swing guy, depending

737
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: on who's out there. DeRozan likely just because he's going

738
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: to get to the free throw line of Buchevic because

739
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 5: he got to play a big guy. It's not going

740
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: to be a lockdown lineup, but they're going to be

741
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 5: able to score on everybody. The ball moves with this team,

742
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 5: at least here in the preseason, and that's what they

743
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 5: looked the best last year. Their best games were not

744
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 5: Zach Lavine going for forty and you know, shooting forty times,

745
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 5: were having thirty assists. Unfortunately, that usually came against the

746
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 5: bad teams. So we'll see what they can do against

747
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 5: the elite teams this season. That was the problem last

748
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 5: year was that anytime they were playing against the team

749
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 5: that was over five hundred, it was going to be

750
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 5: tough for the Bulls against an under five hundred team,

751
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 5: they were looking good.

752
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

753
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 5: Zach Lavine missed a huge part of the biggest and

754
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: toughest part of the season for the Bulls last year,

755
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: and they won thirty one games. So I was shocked

756
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 5: to see that John Honder only had them a plus

757
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 5: six this season. Yeah, after making a ton of changes

758
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 5: in the offseason. But ever since that piece dropped, I've

759
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 5: been following John's tweets and he seems to be a

760
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 5: little intrigued by what the Chicago Bulls are doing here

761
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 5: Before things get going, I think they're going to catch

762
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 5: teams off guard just how good they are offensively.

763
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 4: I think Alonso has a big impact on that team.

764
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: If he can hit that three consistently, I think that

765
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 4: really helps, because we saw last season in New Orleans

766
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 4: he would have games or it hit seven and then

767
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 4: he goes none for the next game. So that I

768
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: think is key. Because he a good defensive player, he's

769
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 4: a good ball hand, he's got good cool vision, so

770
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: he's going to be on there a lot, and if

771
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: he can, it just helps spread that floor and helps

772
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: that offense. So I think that was a good signing,

773
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: but can he be consistent? That's a big question I

774
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: think for him, because that's what the Bulls really need

775
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 4: from that position.

776
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break here in a second, but Tass,

777
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: I also got to ask you how many wins are

778
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: the Raptors good for just returning to Canada and playing

779
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: in their actual own gym. Is They're a tough team

780
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: to predict, is what I'm getting out here for the

781
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Raps too, because I I facilitate between you know, being

782
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: one of still like the fourth or fifth best team

783
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: in the East and then like completely being out of it.

784
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: You can talk me into to both of the especially

785
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: with the Siakam injury to start the season. But what's

786
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: your gut save.

787
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: On the round? Yeah, yeah, that's a whole other ranches

788
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: that Pascal Siakam goes from their best player last year

789
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: now to number one injured, number two people, you know,

790
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: putting Fred van van Vleet up on the the sort

791
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: of the pecking order there. But yeah, like the like

792
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: the Bulls in the preseason, it feels good just to

793
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: watch this team work, just to watch Scottie Barnes smile

794
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: and facilitate everywhere the guy's got twenty assists or nineteen

795
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: depending on the websites. You check through three games, it's

796
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: nearly seven A sister game for a forward like that

797
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 2: who can obviously defend. This is the transition season, is

798
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: where I'm going with my answer. I'm okay with that.

799
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: But but to watch Fred and Og who looks like

800
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: a new player, and Siakam and then yeah, the Barnes

801
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: precious a chew of mix. It's it's fine. They'll they'll,

802
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: They'll probably be in Adam Silver's office thanking him that

803
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: he invented this play in tournament. I think the Bulls

804
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: are sort of in that, in that mix as well.

805
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: That's that's that's a good spot for the Raps. It's

806
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: a it's a fine year to transition. And yeah, we

807
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: saw what the Toronto Blue Jays did going from Buffalo

808
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: to Dunedin too. Toronto, so many more wins.

809
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm more joking about it, but it's going to

810
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: help their chances of winning more games, not playing a

811
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: Tampa actually, and I guess they just got cleared for

812
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: a full capacity to at the Scotia Bank Arena, so

813
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: there will be a rocking crowd there. Man.

814
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: They got a trade dragish, that's the weird well, yeah,

815
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: weird wrench, you know that's it's not and with sackingbut

816
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: it's just not. We don't know what this team is

817
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: quite yet.

818
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: Uh. If we get a bulls Raptors playing game though,

819
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, we're going to break the internet if

820
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: we have. That was that the live stream? That game?

821
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: I think is what we'll do.

822
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: That's what we were getting close to.

823
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: We were getting close. We're very close. Okay, we got

824
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: to take a break. We got so many questions so

825
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: to get to but let's hear from our sponsors. Did

826
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: the Whittler play? Was he his DJ at his own

827
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: winning No?

828
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no, oh he could have killed it? Yeah,

829
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, I'm not sure the sixty and

830
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: seventy year olds would have been digging.

831
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 3: Really, everybody loves when the base drops.

832
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: It's true, true. Yeah, yeah, the sixteen seventy year olds,

833
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: they were pulling up in their rides dropping the base.

834
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe the Whitdler could have pulled it off.

835
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get to our next question here.

836
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: It is your favorite under the radar off season move tasks?

837
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: Where do you want to start.

838
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: Well, I'll go to the Portland Trail Blazers because it's

839
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 2: they had an interesting offseason because during the Olympics, my goodness,

840
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: it sure felt like Damian Lillard was leaving Portland, like

841
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: he requested a trade, and then you know, he walked

842
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: that back and the Blazers really had nowhere to go

843
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: because of all the contracts they've got locked up. Dame

844
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: is into his thirties, and the team's just sort of middling.

845
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: They're not really going anywhere in a really tough Western Conference,

846
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 2: So what could they do with all those contracts on

847
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: their books. While they made a decent trade, they did

848
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: what they could and they traded for Larry Nance Junior

849
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: from the Cleveland Cavaliers. He's a big guy that can

850
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: play a little backup center, and the Blazers just needed

851
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: to do something around Dame. And I think this team

852
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: that was the second best offense last year and the

853
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: second worst defense, which which is crazy to think about,

854
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: will get a lot better with Larry Nance. And I

855
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: know it's it's it's definitely under the radar. And they

856
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: have a starting lineup of Dame, CJ. Norman Powell, Robert

857
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: Covington and Yusuf Nurkic, but I think Larry Nant's gonna

858
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: take away a lot of those minutes. They tried Derek

859
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: Jones June's Jones last year and that didn't work out.

860
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: But Larry Nance could take some of those minutes that

861
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: DJJ tried to fill in last year as sort of

862
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: a you know, a glue guy in the starting lineup.

863
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: So I could see Norman Powell going to the bench

864
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: at times or Larry Nance finishing games with Norman Powell

865
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: off the floor. He's he's just such a connector. You know,

866
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: he's a great passer, he can shoot a little bit.

867
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: He's late in his twenty so he knows what he is.

868
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: He's just a great team guy. So I think they

869
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: did really really well to try and improve that defense,

870
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe a healthier Nurkic can help. They

871
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: have a better just defensive bench with guys like Cody

872
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: Zeller and Nance and even Tony snell over Canter and

873
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 2: Mellow and Chauncey Bilps probably more aggressive defensive coach than

874
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: Terry Stuffs. That's gonna be interesting to watch, but yeah,

875
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: the bench is better. Anthony Simons looks good in the

876
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: preseason so I think Lillard has a good shot on

877
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: moving up in the Western Conference standings. But it's I

878
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: think there's a lot riding on Larry Nancy's shoulders. I

879
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 2: know that's a little dumb to say, but him and

880
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: Nurkic have got to be really, really good on the

881
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: back line, and if they're not, they're just going to

882
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: be bad again defensively, and then you're just an incredible

883
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: offense with a defense that can't win playoff series in

884
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: the Western Conference.

885
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just need to be respectable on defense. They

886
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: don't need to be like a top five defense, they

887
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: just need to be a round average and then you

888
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: pair it with what Lillard can bring to you offensively,

889
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: You're right then there'll be a much much better team,

890
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: especially in a playoff series. Okay, Larry Nens Junior like

891
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: that one. That one got a you know the pundits

892
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: love that one. I felt like of the off season

893
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: moves despite being an under the radar name for sure.

894
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: And Larry Lee, let's go to you next, though, what's

895
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: your favorite.

896
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: I'm playing Homer cart On episode one here. I think

897
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: Patty Mills to the Nets was just a perfect pickup

898
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: for Brooklyn. You get a veteran at that stage of

899
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: his career. He's on a two year deal and he's

900
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: got a second year player option there. He's going to

901
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: come off the bench and give the Nets exactly what

902
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 4: they need. And especially with this Kyrie situation there, Paddy

903
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: may he may start in place with Kyrie. Who knows

904
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 4: exactly what's going to happen there. But as we saw

905
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: in the Olympics, Paddy really stepped his game up and

906
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: delivered that bronze medal for Australia. And you just get

907
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: a solid, reliable veteran who's going to go out there.

908
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: He can hit those threes. He plays offense, obviously, you

909
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: know he's not a fantastic defender, but when someone like

910
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 4: James Hard and Kevin durand those guys sitting in the

911
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: offense maybe doesn't flow as well. You've got Paddy out there,

912
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 4: who you know can penetrate and score hit those threes.

913
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: And he's got that great historical teammate there in LaMarcus

914
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: orders you know they can play a little bit of

915
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: one two together, as they did in Portland and San Antonio.

916
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 4: So I think when you look at Brooklyn, obviously a

917
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: very top heavy team, They've got three potential stars on

918
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 4: that roster. But then when guys and I expect guys

919
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 4: like James Harden to sort of rest as well throughout

920
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 4: the season. You got Paddy Mills. You can just slot

921
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: in there to that starting lineup if you need it,

922
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 4: and he can score otherwise. He's very, very good at

923
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: playing that backup role. So I think for Brooklyn that

924
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: was a pretty good pickup.

925
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: Trey favorite under the radar offseason move.

926
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 5: I also like a Spur leaving his team. Give me

927
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 5: Rudy Gay to the Jazz. I don't know if I

928
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 5: would have known that Rudy Gay played four seasons in

929
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 5: San Antonio, but while he did, he kind of turned

930
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 5: himself into a small ball for He was solid off

931
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 5: the bench for the Spurs. Eleven points, five rebounds last year,

932
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 5: shot forty two percent from the field, thirty eight from three.

933
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 5: Not crazy numbers, but quality stuff off the bench as

934
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 5: a big guy, and I really like that he's gonna

935
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 5: give the Jazz another look as a big. He's not

936
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: a great defender, but he's been around long enough, he's

937
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 5: mobile enough to help in a pinch, and the versatility

938
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 5: he's going to bring to the Jazz is something that

939
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: they really need. We saw against the Clippers in the

940
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 5: playoffs last year they just couldn't get to a small

941
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 5: ball lineup that made any sort of sense. So their

942
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: other Rudy Rudy Gobert was out there having to chase

943
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 5: some guards and cover on the perimeter, and it just

944
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 5: wasn't necessarily working out for the Jazz come playoff time.

945
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 5: I don't love the Hassan Whiteside signing for the Jazz,

946
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 5: so I imagine that Rudy Gay will be at least

947
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 5: the small ball backup five for the Jazz, and I

948
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 5: think that will really help. I think he can also

949
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 5: probably play alongside Rudy Gobert if those two ever need

950
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: to see the floor together, I would have to imagine

951
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 5: the only Rudy Rudy pairing in NBA.

952
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: History if that happens.

953
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 5: I don't think Gobert is ever the problem for the Jazz,

954
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: but he also isn't always the solution. They just need

955
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 5: another style of play, and I think getting Rudy Gabe

956
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 5: for three years about eighteen million, that's a great deal

957
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 5: for the Jazz for a guy who's going to be

958
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 5: super useful during the regular season and income playoff time for.

959
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: My pick to this answer. You might remember that I

960
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: was high on Josh Richardson. When the Mavericks acquired him.

961
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, that's what they need. Three and

962
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: D guy, pair him with Luca. He's going to be fantastic.

963
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: Josh Richardson ended up being garbage for the Mavericks so

964
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: much so that they were like, well, let's just let's

965
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: just try again. So I will try again with my

966
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: MAVs and the under the radar offseason move, and I'll

967
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: take you. I'll pick two guys. Though. They swapped out

968
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: Josh Richardson for basically Reggie Bullock and then they signed

969
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: Sterling Brown, and I like this in theory. It's more shooting.

970
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: Especially Brown. He shot forty two percent from three when

971
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: he was with Houston on four attemphs per game. It's

972
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: really good. If he can keep that up, that's amazing.

973
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: He's great at catch and shoot. That's what you want

974
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: playing alongside Luca Reggie Bullock sort of same idea. A

975
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: bit of a shooters little defense there. They can guard

976
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: multiple positions. Those two guys be in the size that

977
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: they are, so I'll just run it back and say

978
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: the MAVs getting Reggie Bullock and Stirling Brown. I like that.

979
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: I like it in theory. Again, those are the taper

980
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: guys in my mind that you want alongside Luca Ley

981
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: when it comes to like trying to help your chances

982
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: in winning a playoff series.

983
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 4: Reggie Bullock was great for the Knicks last season. Again

984
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 4: in the regular season, he didn't do quite as much

985
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 4: in the playoffs there, and Sterling Brown as well. Yeah,

986
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 4: another guy, sort of athletic guy. If he can if

987
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: that Houston stuff wasn't just like, you know, you're on

988
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 4: a team that's a disaster here, so you're getting some shots,

989
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 4: then it's not so good. But if he can actually

990
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: prove to be productive, that's what Dallas really needs. So yeah,

991
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: Reggie Bullock's a fascinating one though for me because I

992
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: thought when the Knicks switched him on to Trey Young

993
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 4: the playoffs, I thought this could be what he could

994
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 4: really have an impact here by being longer, a bit taller,

995
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 4: a bit more aggressive, and Trey cooked him. So I'm

996
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: not sure if he is as good a defender as

997
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 4: he looked in the regular season, but we'll see. The

998
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: Mavericks had to make a few moves and they did.

999
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 4: Now we just have to see it.

1000
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the MAVs they're still looking for a

1001
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: star though, right. I think these guys all fit in

1002
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: theoretically three and d Beside Luca, he's the whole offense.

1003
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: But sometimes Luca just gets a little gas. You need

1004
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: another playmaker out there just to do something offensively, and

1005
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: so throughout the regular season, I think they'll be great,

1006
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: but he can just get worn down series after series

1007
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 2: after serious I think they just they're I'm sure they're

1008
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: looking for another superstar. I don't think they necessarily want

1009
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: to go into the season with Reggie Bullock and Tim

1010
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: Hardaway and Dorian Finney Smiths as the Wings as the

1011
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: creators there. They just want somebody else. But it's stuff stuff.

1012
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1013
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: Maybe they probably were looking at Kyle Lowry to to

1014
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: try and make that work. But maybe Frank Neila Kina

1015
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: can be that guy. There's a cheap little guy they

1016
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: got there. Probably won't happen, but they're looking for a

1017
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: star in Dallas for sure.

1018
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: Well, what about porzingis just turning into a star? May

1019
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: banking on that they're hoping for it?

1020
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 5: Well, you also mentioned the dragas trade. Yeah, I think

1021
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 5: that is like a clear spot where you would want

1022
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 5: to see Gore and dragicic is alongside his Slovenian teammate

1023
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: there in Dallas. Gives a little bit of help as

1024
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 5: a creator, Not that Dragach is in his prime right now,

1025
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 5: but certainly an upgrade as get into the basket and

1026
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 5: creating for others.

1027
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: Over those other wings that the Mads have.

1028
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: Maybe j Kid takes them all out bowling and there's

1029
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: some serious chemistry that happens there.

1030
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to a fun cueue here. I'm

1031
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: gonna pair them together. I know we've done in the

1032
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: in previous years where we made these two questions, but

1033
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: this is just one question the best slash worst new

1034
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: jersey that we can look forward to here. Now a

1035
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: lot of these I will say that we're gonna show

1036
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: you not confirmed their leaks, but most of the time

1037
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: the Internet figures this out and they're pretty damn close.

1038
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: Conrad Burry told me there's gonna be three classic addition

1039
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: uniforms which we've already seen. That's the Celtics, the Warriors,

1040
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: and the Knicks sort of like you know, celebrating the

1041
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: seventy fifth anniversary and all that with like those old

1042
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: sort of timy uniforms. But then there's gonna be this

1043
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: is again from Conrad Bury, who knows this stuff. There's

1044
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna be twenty eight new city edition uniforms coming. So, Trey,

1045
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: we're showing a couple here. But do you have a favorite,

1046
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: a best, or a worst from some of the some

1047
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: of the ones we've seen leaked here.

1048
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 5: Well, I actually really do like what the MAVs got

1049
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 5: going on here. I feel like since Nike has taken

1050
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 5: over and they've been doing these city jerseys, the Mavericks have.

1051
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: Had some brutal ones.

1052
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 5: Remember the MAVs Mountain Dew ones that they had, then

1053
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 5: they had the white and gold. I like this white

1054
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 5: and green they've got going on with the classic font.

1055
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 5: Everybody likes it when the MAVs bring back the green.

1056
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 5: But what I really love skeets and tasks. I appreciate

1057
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 5: you with the Alley oop. Jason Kidd's bowling shirt. Yep,

1058
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 5: are you kidding me? Look at this collar? Incredible stuff.

1059
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 5: If you somehow haven't seen it, if you're watching the show,

1060
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 5: I know you have. You got to go check out

1061
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 5: Corked Bats on Twitter. K corked bats with a K.

1062
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: There.

1063
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 5: They did a thing where every twenty five likes they

1064
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 5: made Jason Kidds collar bigger and eventually this.

1065
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: Collar just took over the world. This is an incredible thing.

1066
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 5: This is gonna become like a memeable item of clothing

1067
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 5: to have. Like I've seen a lot of people wearing

1068
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 5: the Dan Flash's complicated patterns polo shirt. This is what

1069
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,479
Speaker 5: people are gonna start wearing as an NBA meme.

1070
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: This picture is great.

1071
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 5: Also great was the back view of Jason Kidd wearing this.

1072
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 5: That is a Vin Diesel pose if I have ever

1073
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 5: seen it. Great sort of retro look for the MAVs.

1074
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 5: And I mean the warm up jacket is just hilarious.

1075
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 5: This is what we look for from media days. Is

1076
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 5: a picture that's gonna last for the entire season. So

1077
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 5: these two from Jason Kidd rocking the bowling look incredible stuff.

1078
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: So we know that coaches do not have to wear

1079
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: suits like that's gonna continue, you know, from the pandemic.

1080
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: Maybe the one good thing to come from the pandemic.

1081
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: You don't have to wear a suit if you don't

1082
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,959
Speaker 1: want to. Well, kid, we wearing those on the side

1083
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: at any point for one game. He's got a rest

1084
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: for one game. Yeah, be very very funny. Those those

1085
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: colors are insane, Like that first one looks photoshoped. That's

1086
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: the insane part to me, that they've just somehow made

1087
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: it bigger than his face.

1088
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 4: His face helps as well, where he's kind of like,

1089
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 4: oh my god, look at this what I have to wear,

1090
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: you know, like he's not smiling. It's not like he's like,

1091
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 4: oh great, I'm going to be the guy who gets

1092
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: the photo taken here. He's like me, really, you know?

1093
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: Okay, well, Lee, what about Colangelo joined that front office?

1094
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: That's yea, well, No, the one I'm going with is

1095
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 4: the Miami Heat because I feel we've seen this one

1096
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 4: before where they've kind of got like different letters.

1097
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: From all the different ys. Did it the Ransom exactly?

1098
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 4: Yeah? But and the Heat Historically, I think I've had

1099
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: some of the best jerseys of all time, but they

1100
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 4: really missed out on this one because it looks like

1101
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: the Ransom note there.

1102
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: You're saying as the worst.

1103
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I just don't. I don't like that at all,

1104
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 4: and especially the two different tone or to do different

1105
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 4: color numbers there as well. On that Jimmy Butler jersey there.

1106
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 4: So yeah, for me, it's like the Heat. You've had these,

1107
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 4: you know, the the Miami Vice Night jerseys. You've always

1108
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 4: had those cool red jerseys. The white jerseys always look

1109
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: great as well, but this one's like we finally have

1110
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 4: to have a bad one, and they've got one bad

1111
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: one there. So yeah, I don't like it. Don't want

1112
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: to see them wear that at all at this season.

1113
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 4: I mean, the only one one way they had it

1114
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: where it color coordinated with the court was ugly. To

1115
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: look at, the jerseys themselves weren't terrible. This is I think,

1116
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 4: is actually just a bad jersey. So yeah, yeah, yeah, it.

1117
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: Is weird, especially because most of the ones they've had recently,

1118
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: ur right, have been pretty good. What about you, Tassa

1119
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: a favorite or at least favorite of these leaks?

1120
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I understand really is going with the Heat jersey.

1121
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: They're being ugly, but I think they're going to sell,

1122
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: and I think that's kind of the point, you know,

1123
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: I think I think people are going to be on

1124
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: South Beach, especially with these these mannequin tape looks that

1125
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: they have with these jerseys. If you could put it

1126
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: up again, JD. You know, they really puff out the jerseys.

1127
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: These jerseys just look great because the bod that's not there. Yeah, yeah,

1128
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: it looks looks really good. I think they're all really good.

1129
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: And I think if people might look at the yellow

1130
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: one for the Hawks, that's not their color palette. But again,

1131
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 2: it's about them selling. So it's they already have a red,

1132
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: they already have a white, they already have a black.

1133
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: They have to you know, they have to look at

1134
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: their entire line and they say, where can we fit

1135
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: in another color? I think that you know, that one

1136
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: that flashed back for me was when I saw that

1137
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: Hawks one was the heat gold jersey last year that

1138
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: they wore for a little bit because they want a championship.

1139
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: But I don't know. The Hawks one's if you look

1140
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 2: at it as a bundle. If you're like our friend

1141
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: Larry Luke, who owns every single jersey, and you look

1142
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: at your closet and you see, I could add a

1143
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: yellow to this blend of jerseys, you know, I think

1144
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: it would fit in. So I think, honestly, I don't know.

1145
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't complain about any of them. Really.

1146
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Trey and I were saying that offline when

1147
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: we were like trying to like find the ones that

1148
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: have leaked, and we're like, you know, these are all decent,

1149
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: Like this is apparently going to be the Wolves a throwback,

1150
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't think a JR ryder looking

1151
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: at that jersey, I don't know what I can do

1152
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: for you. But like a lot of these are of

1153
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: the throwback variety. I mean the Hawks have Warren of course,

1154
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: like the Big Bird before you got the nets, shout

1155
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: out to Kenny Anderson. The Bulls of course, that's a classic,

1156
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: like young Jordan's script and even prior to him, like

1157
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: the Calves. You know, a lot of them are good.

1158
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: I hate that heat one. I think that's way too much.

1159
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: But my favorite is this one, if it's true, the

1160
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: Sixers like sort of wild take on their old court,

1161
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: the spectrum. I believe it was called those colored panels

1162
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: down the side, that's what sort of was happening at

1163
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: center court. I just I really like that a unique

1164
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: of course sort of font there too, again throwback to

1165
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: what they used to play on slast my favorite. And

1166
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: then this Grizzly is one that making the round very simple,

1167
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: not much variation to what they sort of rock with now,

1168
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: but I like this deep blue. Yeah, they're all decent

1169
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: trade for the most part. Because they're throwbacks. They're like

1170
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: they're a tweaked version of a throwback.

1171
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: It's a bit of a cosmic gumbo.

1172
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 5: You throw every single jersey that a team has ever

1173
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 5: worn into a blender hit pulse and it comes out

1174
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 5: with most flea bangers.

1175
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: I would agree.

1176
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, the Bulls one looks like a

1177
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 5: jersey that we've seen the Bulls wear before, but not

1178
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 5: exactly same with the nets. It's just a little bit

1179
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 5: of a twist on everything that you've seen. And I agree, Skiz,

1180
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 5: I think they all look pretty solid. I'm with you, guys.

1181
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 5: I'm not crazy about the Miami one, but perhaps it'll

1182
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 5: look a little bit better.

1183
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: When we actually get to see it out on the court.

1184
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: Question from semi un there the.

1185
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 6: Like it not n No and I mean Anthony Davis

1186
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 6: didn't take number twenty three, number three, so all that

1187
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 6: kafuffle a year ago and it's like, no one's twenty three,

1188
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah they missed that one.

1189
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: You know what, I just I'd totally forgotten about speaking

1190
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: about jersey numbers and I just saw a video about

1191
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Luka Doncic and why he chose seventy seven because he

1192
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: couldn't get seven on the MAVs because Dwight Powell had it.

1193
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: You know, that's just a weird thing to think back,

1194
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: he goes to the MAVs, Dwight Powell has number seven. No, sir,

1195
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: you can't have number seven. I'll take seventy seven instead.

1196
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: That's just a weird one, weird one.

1197
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: We've showed these before too, and they leaked, I guess

1198
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: last year. But these are the three heritage jerseys that

1199
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: we know. These are officially going to be being worn

1200
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: the nixt one, the Warriors, and the Celtics. All I think,

1201
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: pretty good. Pretty good. Again, they didn't they didn't butcher

1202
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: any of these which over the last couple of years,

1203
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: like he had some questionable city jerseys. But they've tapped

1204
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: into this whole seventy fifth anniversary made it a little

1205
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: easier on themselves. All right, Next question here, that is

1206
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: a fun one. Who's gonna make their first All Star Game?

1207
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: Who is going to make their first Also game?

1208
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: Test? How about it? This is a fun one. I

1209
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: think the best player in the league who hasn't made

1210
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: the All Star team. Is John Morant, no disrespect to

1211
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray who's injured won't be there. Darren Fox as well,

1212
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 2: who hopefully the Kings are better and they snap this

1213
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: league record tied for the league records fifteen straight seasons

1214
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: without a playoff birth. But I think John Morant has

1215
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: something on Darren Fox which you know is visible for

1216
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: the coaches who will vote him in. And that's just

1217
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: a solid team. The last couple of years, you know,

1218
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: the Kings have been out of the playoffs. The Grizzlies

1219
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 2: two play in tournament appearances in a row, and I

1220
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: think that helps with coaches, and it is going to

1221
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 2: be ridiculously tough for John Ran as good as he is,

1222
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: even despite his growth, I'm sure that will come here

1223
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: in year three. NBA players they tend to grow, you know,

1224
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: in year three a good bunch. But it's hard in

1225
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: the West. It's just so hard being a guard with

1226
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: Steph Dame, Luca, Chris, Paul Booker, Donovan Mitchell. But I

1227
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: just feel like, you know, he is that good, he

1228
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: is that respected, and maybe he'll sneak into sort of

1229
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: a wild card spot and maybe the Grizzlies are forgotten

1230
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: by fans a lot of the time. But again, two

1231
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: play in tournament appearances in a row. That's that's a

1232
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: very very solid team. And I think they get better

1233
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 2: number one because Jaw is better and number two because

1234
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson Junior wasn't there last year and he's a

1235
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: big that's going to help a lot on that team.

1236
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 2: That team is just is just really solid up and down.

1237
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: Not a ton of sexy names on it, but I

1238
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be another step better and hopefully they

1239
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: won't miss Jonas Valanciunas too much, but I think they

1240
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: got enough. And Dylan Brooks and Kyle Anderson and Steven

1241
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: Adams and Dan Anthony Melton. They have a bunch of

1242
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: dudes that that will help joh get there. And again

1243
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: I mentioned all those names that probably don't really turn

1244
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 2: the crank for anybody, but they keep winning and Jared

1245
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: Jackson Junior is going to help out there.

1246
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: What about you, Trey, first time All Star? Make your prediction.

1247
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: I was also a task on John Morant.

1248
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 5: I think he is the guy most likely to make

1249
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 5: the leap in the Western Conference. He's been trying to

1250
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 5: shoot some threes off the dribble here in the preseason,

1251
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 5: which I think is an encouraging sign. And I'm also

1252
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 5: a big Jared Jackson junior believer. So while it was

1253
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 5: weird to move on from Yonis Bellancunis, I think this

1254
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 5: is a little bit of a bet on JJJ and

1255
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna Jaw and Jared are gonna have

1256
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 5: nice chemistry on the pick and roll, and I think

1257
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 5: that Jaw has a chance to continue to surprise. I

1258
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 5: think I'm with you Taska, like it feels like the

1259
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 5: Grizzlies always outperform expectations. So coming into this season after

1260
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 5: they traded a guy who you could have pitched as

1261
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 5: their MVP last year in JV, You're not expecting a

1262
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 5: ton from the Grizzlies. They seem like maybe a play

1263
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 5: in team, But I wouldn't be surprised. The force of personality,

1264
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 5: the effort that John Morant plays with, it's a highlight

1265
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 5: festival anytime he's able to stay on the court for

1266
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 5: three or four weeks at a time. So as long

1267
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 5: as he stays healthy and as long as that jumper

1268
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 5: continues to come around, I think he's the next up

1269
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 5: in the Western Conference.

1270
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: We Lee you're gonna make it three for three, you

1271
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: go on John Around, You've got somebody.

1272
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 4: Else, obviously Jars on my list, I'll go LaMelo Ball.

1273
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 4: I wonder if I can squeeze in in the Eastern Conference,

1274
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 4: especially in that guard position, because if you look at

1275
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 4: a couple of guards who I don't think will make

1276
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: it, it's Kyrie Irving and Ben Simmons. So I think both

1277
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 4: of those spots being open there gives the chance to LaMelo.

1278
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 4: But also on merit alone, I think LaMelo Ball was

1279
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: so incredibly good last season, winning Rookie of the Year. Obviously,

1280
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 4: he got injured there and missed some time towards the end,

1281
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 4: but when he was playing, the shot wasn't too bad.

1282
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 4: You know, he's got the passing. The team improved a lot.

1283
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 4: I think again, he's going to take another leak this season,

1284
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 4: so I think being in that conference, on that team,

1285
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 4: he's probably already their best player. And if the Hornets

1286
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: get off to a good start, I think LaMelo Ball

1287
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 4: could really put himself in contention there. So I'd like

1288
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 4: to see both of those guys make it, because I

1289
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 4: think they're both exciting to watch. I really I think

1290
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 4: LaMelo was much better than certainly I thought he was

1291
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 4: going to be in his first season and expect a

1292
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 4: sort of similar step up maybe the most improved for

1293
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 4: him this season. Can that happened? Can you go for

1294
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 4: a rookie of the year to most improve to the

1295
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 4: next season?

1296
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1297
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's, like, you know, mathematically possible,

1298
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 4: isn't I mean.

1299
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: I like you're thinking, though, that's smart that Cayrie and Simmons,

1300
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: that's you know, basically other did speak it last year?

1301
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: Did he get it the last year? Did he? Yeah?

1302
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, him and MB didn't play because they actually had

1303
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 4: the COVID protocols of the day of the game.

1304
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 2: But right, good cough, But Lee, you mentioned those two

1305
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: guys that may not be there Kyrie Ben Simmons on

1306
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference team. If Tree Young wins MVP, can

1307
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: he come back to the star he was last year?

1308
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 4: You're right, You're right, You're right, and you can lock

1309
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 4: him in for the All Star Game. That's put a

1310
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 4: lock in Dame Episode one. Trey Young is back to

1311
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 4: the All Star team this year. If he's not the

1312
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 4: All Star team, then my my pick's going to be

1313
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 4: like a little shady around that. I gotta, you know

1314
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do. I've gotta get in on I

1315
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 4: gotta I've gotta contact my buddy Grish and see what

1316
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 4: sort of odds he'll give me for trade Young. You

1317
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 4: know he loves it. Good season, He'll make a better.

1318
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 5: I do have a little breaking non news from Sean's

1319
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 5: and woes are both reporting. The Philadelphia seventy six Ers

1320
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 5: and Ben Simmons agent Clutch Sports CEO Rich Paul have

1321
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 5: been working around the clock over the last few days

1322
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 5: on a resolution to have free time All Star return

1323
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 5: to philadelph My.

1324
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 4: God, moving house is the worst thing. He's just moved

1325
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 4: all his stuff in. He's gonna move it back in.

1326
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, he's got He's got to get his assistant

1327
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: to call the Yeah.

1328
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 4: But it's like, where do you want this? You want

1329
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 4: in the same room? Now put it in a different

1330
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 4: room because I might still be being traded. But what

1331
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 4: if you're not? What if you hear from this.

1332
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: Is all bullshit. This They have to do this now

1333
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: to like help their chances of him being traded. They're like, oh,

1334
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: we've gone too far. Now, we got to pretend we're

1335
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: making up. He might come and play for us, and

1336
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of money to be like

1337
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: lost if he doesn't play every game.

1338
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: He's someone Yeah three and eighty k every game? Whatever

1339
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: it is some.

1340
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah three sixty I think, But yeah, I mean.

1341
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: I'll go back to the Western Conference for who will

1342
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: make their first All Star Game. It's three guards to me,

1343
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: I think you guys nailed it with the Ja Moran.

1344
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: I would have him at the sort of top of

1345
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: my list. Then Dear and Fox there would be next.

1346
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: But that just is totally dependent on if the Kings

1347
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: can just like be a respectable team, Like he's great,

1348
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: his numbers should be decent. Hopefully the three bounces back,

1349
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: he'll be in the mix. And then I have to

1350
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: point him out because it is our final season of

1351
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,479
Speaker 1: the one of the weirder bets we've ever made. Will

1352
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: Shay Gildess Alexander be an All starter? Try? And I

1353
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: made this bet, I guess now three seasons ago if

1354
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: we're counting this one, so two years ago we said

1355
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: it had a window of like three years. So this

1356
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: is my last chance. I need Shay Gilders Alexander to

1357
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: make this team. Now. On one hand, I would like

1358
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: to say, the confidence I had in Shay Gills Alexander

1359
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: was warranted. I mean, he's blossomed into an incredible player.

1360
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: Last year he averaged twenty four, six and five. His

1361
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: shooting splits were fifty, forty and eighty. Now he only

1362
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: played thirty five games because they basically were like, you're

1363
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: too good. We want to lose games to get high

1364
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: draft picks. How's your foot sore? Yeah, don't play. But

1365
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: the problem with this and Trey, it's gotta feel pretty

1366
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: good about it winning this bet with me is that

1367
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: the thunder A just like there's just no possible way

1368
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: they're going to be good enough. Like Jane could average

1369
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: thirty and ten and uh yeah, and they'd shut him

1370
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: down and think, yeah, they would shut him down one

1371
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: and then two. Uh, they're probably gonna be like near

1372
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: the bottom in the Western Conference. So just like not

1373
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: having the the w's there. So it's not looking good

1374
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: for your boy Sketze here lely in this SGA bet

1375
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: though again he's he's I mean, if you've seen this guy,

1376
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: he's bulked up.

1377
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: Sam press not Skeatze's fault. Yeah he is. I mean

1378
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 2: he's a great player.

1379
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: He's a great bag. But he's going to get like

1380
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: double and triple teamed, I think on this team too.

1381
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 4: So they gave him the bag in the summer too,

1382
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,959
Speaker 4: so there, you know, he because there was rooms about

1383
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 4: whether or not they would trade him because he was

1384
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 4: too good and getting more draft picks back. But man,

1385
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: Sam prest, he's got the patience. Man, Like every year

1386
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 4: feels like the same thing. It's like we're just waiting

1387
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 4: and waiting and waiting to start competing. So yeah, I

1388
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 4: think that's the biggest factor going against Gil. Just Alexander

1389
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 4: he didn't. Yeah, you do get into Ben Simmons trading

1390
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 4: for Ben Simmons. Maybe that's the movie.

1391
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1392
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 4: I think he's I think he's a good player, but

1393
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: I just I really can't see him cracking into it

1394
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 4: in the Western Conference especially.

1395
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like I'm going to be losing that one.

1396
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: I do have a quick trivia question. You know what's

1397
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: a No Dugs podcast question? Can you name the five

1398
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: first time All Stars last year?

1399
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: A lot of them exactly correct?

1400
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 4: Zion correct, DeMont No, he was one before, wasn't you?

1401
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: Julius Randall correct, jell and Brown. There you're going one more.

1402
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: It's the one that was like I kept saying, Mike

1403
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: kept seeing he shouldn't make it because then he'll be

1404
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: always known as the greatest player never made the All Star. Yeah,

1405
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: he made it because he was a replacement for a Booker.

1406
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: I think it was ten the year before that that

1407
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: was like the Tray, the Luca, the Tatum, the Sabonis,

1408
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: the Bam like it goes on and on.

1409
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 4: I thought Booker was a replacement for someone else, but

1410
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 4: that was the year. No, I think he's been a

1411
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 4: two time replacement player Booker Oka.

1412
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but I'm saying Conley was a replacement for Booker.

1413
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 4: No, but but bok replacement was it?

1414
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: Oh maybe it was? Yeah maybe so yeah maybe, but

1415
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: Conley I'm pretty sure replaced Booker here was a replacement

1416
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: for sure.

1417
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 3: I know that.

1418
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't know who actually, but maybe I thought it

1419
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: was Devin. Uh yeah. Five. So I was looking it up.

1420
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: There's like most of the time there's like five or six,

1421
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: which is just seems I don't know, it seems weird

1422
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: to me. It's like always I just always think there's

1423
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: only like one or two new All Stars, but there's

1424
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: usually more than that. All Right, we got a couple

1425
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: more questions here for Part one of our NBA season

1426
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: preview series. But we gotta take one more break. We

1427
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: gotta pay the bills tk, Lee. Have you ever broken

1428
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: into somebody's you know, backyard pool taking a little late

1429
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,479
Speaker 1: night dip because it was too hot?

1430
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 4: No, I don't think I have even a public pool.

1431
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: You never done that.

1432
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 4: I don't think I've broken into one.

1433
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 3: No.

1434
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 4: No, I've always got a membership. So I just go

1435
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 4: in through the front door, you know.

1436
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's.

1437
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 4: I'm not swimming at two in the morning.

1438
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: The best time to go swimming.

1439
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to think. No, I don't really

1440
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 4: have a swimming pool, you know, breaking in entering story

1441
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 4: for you?

1442
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: Wow, I stumped a Lee Ellens. He doesn't have a

1443
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: story about that.

1444
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 3: We did it or he was the guy who broke

1445
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: in over the weekend.

1446
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: He just.

1447
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 4: Trying to deflect a little bit there.

1448
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, a couple more questions here Part one. That's

1449
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: a fun one. Take a look at the schedule, Guys,

1450
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: which October game are you most excited for? You just

1451
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: sticking to October first couple of weeks, Lee, what do

1452
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: you got your eye?

1453
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to be down at the Fortress for the

1454
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 4: hawks opener against the Dallas Mavericks because I want to

1455
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 4: get down there. It was great down there in the

1456
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 4: playoffs last season, and the Hawks don't have a great

1457
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 4: home season schedule to start the season, but their first

1458
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 4: game is a banger, and I want to be there

1459
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 4: to watch it. So I'll be heading down SRO. But

1460
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 4: I don't know if they do SRO if it's not

1461
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 4: the playoffs, so we'll see, we'll see what happened. Regardless exactly,

1462
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 4: I'm going to buy a ticket and I'm just going

1463
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 4: to go and stand in that spot and go through

1464
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 4: what we did last year in the playoffs because listen,

1465
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 4: Luke is only going to be here once, unless of

1466
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 4: course they make the finals, probably not going to happen.

1467
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 4: So I want to go and watch him in person.

1468
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 4: I want to see Trey. I want to get I

1469
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 4: want to feel after making this prediction that Trey's going

1470
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 4: to win the MVP. I want him to have like

1471
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 4: a thirty five point fifteen assist game and hit eight

1472
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 4: threes and have everyone going, oh my god, maybe the

1473
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 4: Hawks are different this season and maybe they can do it.

1474
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: Because you want to feel it straight away. Don't you

1475
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 4: want to ride that horse all the way? You don't

1476
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 4: want to be down the other end where you're like.

1477
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 4: They got off to a stinker at home against the Mavericks.

1478
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 4: I really thought they could have won that game. So

1479
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 4: it was great down there at the Hawks. Last year's

1480
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 4: the playffs. They've got legit star that you want to watch.

1481
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 4: So I'll probably be in there a few times this season. Yes,

1482
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 4: come join.

1483
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeh Jesus man, do you have the nerve to yell

1484
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: Homer when I even just bring up the trun Rappers.

1485
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: You've talked about the Hawks for an hour on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: most of the time just about going down to the arena.

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Speaker 1: I love it. That is the first game of TNT's

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Speaker 1: double header on that Thursday, correct, So maps Hawks? All right, Lee,

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Speaker 1: We'll be down there at the Fortress. What about you, Trey.

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Speaker 3: That's a great call.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually pretty mad at the NBA for the way

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Speaker 5: scheduling went down this year because the Bulls in the

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Speaker 5: nixt play on October twenty eighth in Chicago could have

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Speaker 5: easily been the return of the TNT Bulls.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but it's a lean pass game, a boom

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Speaker 3: and we got two.

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Speaker 5: Big markets that are gonna be at least solid teams

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Speaker 5: this year. They're gonna be likely competing for seating when

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Speaker 5: it all comes down to at the end of the year.

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Speaker 5: It's October twenty eight, Knicks at Bulls. I would have

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Speaker 5: loved to have seen this on national TV, but no

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Speaker 5: doubt I'll be checking in on league Pass.

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Speaker 1: What about you? Tasks? First? You know, first month of games.

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Speaker 1: I guess, first couple of weeks. Which one you're most

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Speaker 1: excited for? Is it Opening night?

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Speaker 2: Thursday night? The Atlanta Hawks they host the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm going sitting room only.

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Speaker 4: Ah, come on, Tassy, come on down to the Fortress.

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Speaker 4: You can't sit at home for the first game of

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, see, maybe I'm not standing sitting in the arena.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Maybe I'll ask for a media pass.

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Speaker 2: But you can't cheer there, can you, ly Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't.

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Speaker 4: Don't get the media pass. Don't get the media passe.

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Speaker 4: Then you sort of feel like you have to work.

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Speaker 4: Just go and buy the ticket, have a couple of

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Speaker 4: pironis in the standing room onely section tast you put

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Speaker 4: on a jersey. You have a great time. It's way

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Speaker 4: more fun when you can actually get into it, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Are going to buy that Yellow Hawks jersey? I might?

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Speaker 1: I might. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: They're usually like one hundred and sixty bucks, a bit

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Speaker 4: steep if you ask me. But maybe you got maybe

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Speaker 4: they've got the T shirt option instead, because I do

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Speaker 4: like that. But you love a Yeah, yeah, they.

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Speaker 2: Got some great they got They've got some great jerseys though.

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Speaker 2: You don't have any of the new red yellow, not yellow, red, black,

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Speaker 2: or white ones, do you. No.

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Speaker 4: I've got the old throwback Nick pac Man one, and

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Speaker 4: I've got the Kyle Korva you know, the Kyle Korva

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Speaker 4: sort of cymbal shirt whatever that was where just his

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Speaker 4: name on the back. And then I've got the Larry

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Speaker 4: Luca the threes is one, which is also a favorite.

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Speaker 4: So I've I've got a bit choo right, like to

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Speaker 4: mix it up, But maybe I do need.

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Speaker 1: That yellow the biggest Hawks.

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Speaker 4: You need to have a er Yeah, yeah, hey, listen, tasty.

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Speaker 4: I'm not letting you sit at home though, if you

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Speaker 4: if you're watching the game, you're come into the arena,

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Speaker 4: come on first night. Then they've got like then they've

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Speaker 4: got I can't remember exactly, but they've got like the

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Speaker 4: Wizards and you know, the Pacers or something like that afterwards.

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Speaker 4: So it's you know, Luca game one, that's what we want.

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Speaker 4: Remember that a couple of years ago, a couple of

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Speaker 4: have you okay, great, yeah you are, yes, See, that's

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Speaker 4: why you don't have to buy it.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, how do you feel about the

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Speaker 1: fortresses rules or I guess sort of non rules when

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Speaker 1: it comes to don't have to prove vaccination by any

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Speaker 1: means here in the state of Georgia. And I think

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Speaker 1: they're just saying masks are optional too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't love that. I don't love that. That's fair.

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Speaker 4: I'll be masked up. I think you do have to

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Speaker 4: be masked up if you're sort of like you know,

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Speaker 4: in that like front row sort of seats.

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Speaker 2: I believe, yeah, maybe that they're projecting the players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but but look, I'm not afraid to wear a mask.

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Speaker 4: I'll have a mask on. I'll be just a little

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Speaker 4: as I have a little sit in the Piranhas down there,

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Speaker 4: but I'll also be distancing you know I won't be

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Speaker 4: you know, I won't be sort of all over everybody

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Speaker 4: anyway there, But.

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Speaker 2: You know, all right, I want to see. I just

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Speaker 2: want to see what this Hawks team is because again,

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Speaker 2: they're they're buying in. This is a win now team,

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Speaker 2: Like are they going to make a deal because they're

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Speaker 2: just stacked, especially at the wing position. DeAndre Andre Hunters

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Speaker 2: back arguably their second best player while he was playing

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Speaker 2: last year, and then Cam Reddish who looks fricking great,

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Speaker 2: and then Kevin Herder and bog Dan Bogdanovic. They just

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Speaker 2: they're a win now team. But some would question if they,

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Speaker 2: you know, have win now capabilities.

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Speaker 4: We could be over writing them as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about the love of the Hawks

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Speaker 1: are getting here in the preseason. I think maybe expectations

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Speaker 1: that got cranked a little too high personally, because again,

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Speaker 1: a lot of the podcasts I've listened to, people I've

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Speaker 1: read everybody's everybody loves them. They're a deep team, They're

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Speaker 1: obviously a talented team. They made a great run last year.

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Speaker 1: Navin Millen, he's there, he's locked up now. But I

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Speaker 1: mean I still think, like I just put them, I

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Speaker 1: matched them against a lot of these other teams in

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, like the Celtics be at the Heat.

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Speaker 1: You know, a couple teams we haven't talked about. Don't worry,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to them as the week goes on. Here,

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Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not sure they're better than those teams. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're a playoff team, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: they should be guaranteed if the longest Ray Young is healthy.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure about like challenging for one of

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Speaker 1: the top spots in the Eastern Conference. I think that's

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Speaker 1: going a little too far, but maybe I'll be proven wrong.

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Speaker 1: But that's a good one. Luca only coming here once

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I get what you're saying. You want to

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Speaker 1: go down to the Fortress to watch the game. I'll

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Speaker 1: keep this simple though. I mean, the opening night schedule

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Speaker 1: is a banger. These are two really entertaining games, you know,

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Speaker 1: in theory on the schedule here, We've got Brooklyn in Milwaukee,

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Speaker 1: so Kyrie will be playing, I guess for the Nets,

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Speaker 1: and then we have the Warriors and Lakers as the

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Speaker 1: nightcap there and that's on Tuesday, October nineteenth. So that's fantastic,

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Speaker 1: but a part of me is always enjoyed as a sicko.

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Speaker 1: The Wednesday night opening sort of slate of games, the

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Speaker 1: real start to the season in a weird way to

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Speaker 1: me because of what we do, trying to watch amazing

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Speaker 1: game as possible, trying to keep your eyes on many

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Speaker 1: teams as possible. That's when we get like, what eleven

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Speaker 1: games on that Wednesday y and you're like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: You're like it's usually like a little intimidating that first

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Speaker 1: night because you're just like, oh, I haven't wrapped my

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Speaker 1: head around how to do this yet. You know which

1614
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: games to watch? Where am I clicking over? Maybe you're

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and gets freaking out because everybody's commenting on

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Speaker 1: the games. But it is a lot of fun, right lely,

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Speaker 1: when you got eleven games going, you know, four starting

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Speaker 1: at seven, another four at eight, another four later on

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Speaker 1: three at night, so that'll be it'll be fun. But

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Speaker 1: it is a lot of that. It's like a I

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Speaker 1: feel I always feel like I'm missing something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you always feel like you're watching the wrong game.

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Speaker 4: You're like, oh damn, it's going off over there, and

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Speaker 4: then you switch and then you miss something in the

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Speaker 4: other game. So yeah, it is a little top, but

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Speaker 4: it's that deluge of basketball that we haven't had for

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Speaker 4: a while, so it's it's great fun.

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Speaker 3: It's also my favorite Winter Olympics sport.

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Speaker 1: To bring it back to the Chicago Bears. Guys.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, do you know when the Bulls

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Speaker 4: are I'm making their first visit to Wootlanta.

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Speaker 3: If you check this skid for that, I don't look

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Speaker 3: that far in advance. Mate. I lived my life a

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Speaker 3: day at a time.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: I got a bonus question here as we wrap up

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Speaker 1: Part one, most surprising result from the NBA dot Com

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Speaker 1: GM survey. Shout out to our guy John Schumann. Is

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Speaker 1: Schumann in the stream team here is anybody's seen him?

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Speaker 1: You know we're back, but he obviously does this. He

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Speaker 1: leads this over at NBA dot Com. It's a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. You get all the gms asked all these

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Speaker 1: questions about like questions we're tackling here in our series

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: and like who would you like to start franchise with

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01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 1: and teams that are like over it and blah blah.

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Speaker 1: But was there anything from this one trey that like

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01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: jumped off the page to you and you were like,

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Speaker 1: whoa that's a weird answer or weird omission. What do

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Speaker 1: you go with a.

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Speaker 5: Few little funny things. Lebron got votes for the best

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Speaker 5: point guard, small forward, and power forward. Yeah, sure, Janus

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01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 5: got votes is the best small forward, power forward and center. Okay,

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Speaker 5: But the weirdest one to me is that Kate Cunningham

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Speaker 5: was the locked in number one pick at the draft,

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Speaker 5: the no doubt number one pick. But GM's voted Jalen

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Speaker 5: Green most likely to win Rookie of the Year. Okay,

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Speaker 5: fair enough, he's gonna have the opportunity. But GM's also

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Speaker 5: voted Evan Mobley the most likely to be the best

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Speaker 5: player in five years. So gms who all agreed that

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Speaker 5: Cad Cunningham should be the number one pick, do not

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Speaker 5: think he will be the best rookie, nor do they

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Speaker 5: think he will be.

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Speaker 3: The best player in five years. He finished second in

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Speaker 3: both votes.

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Speaker 5: But it just seems very strange to me that they

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Speaker 5: wouldn't pick him first for one of those two things.

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Speaker 5: After going first in the draft, he's probably gonna win

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Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year of this Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, from what I have seen, I'm all in on him,

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Speaker 1: and I mean he's gonna get the opportunity in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be one of the worst teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's fine as a rook and yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: I didn't catch that, that is, it's a strange little

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Speaker 1: quirk there. They're like hedging. Basically, they got their bases cover. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, what about you task anything.

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Speaker 2: I definitely noticed that Evan mob that they believe that

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Speaker 2: he's going to be the best rook in five years now.

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Speaker 2: The the actual numbers aren't that different. I think it's

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Speaker 2: like Mobiley thirty three percent and then Kate kind of

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Speaker 2: him thirty percent. So it's not crazy. But then after

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Speaker 2: watching Evan Mobley play, because to me, I'm all these guys,

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Speaker 2: it's all Greek. To me, if I couldn't speak Greek, like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what these college players are. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just don't. So watching Cade play, man he's good.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Green sawhim, and some are like, man, he's good,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Suggsy, Scottie Barnes. You know, I've got the hots

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Speaker 2: for but I never really had the hots for Evan

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Speaker 2: Mobley's game until the preseason. Man, this guy's good. Is

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Speaker 2: he really is like a big man in a wings body.

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Speaker 2: He can handle left hand, right hand, score pass. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the GMS are thinking about his defense, so he's going

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Speaker 2: to be great now. They picked last year James Wiseman

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01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: as the guy who's going to be the best rookie

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01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 2: in five years, so you know, that doesn't look too

1695
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: good now. And maybe they maybe they're they're GM, so

1696
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 2: they kind of think about the defensive end of the

1697
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: floor and Evin Mobley is going to be really really

1698
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 2: good there, and maybe they're thinking James Wiseman the same

1699
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 2: same way. But man, Evan Mobley is probably just that

1700
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 2: the guy who's flying under the radar for everybody. I

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01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: don't know if it's just me, but you know all

1702
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 2: the talks about the Jalens and the Caids in the draft,

1703
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: so that guy is good. One other thing I noticed

1704
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: with the GM survey the best international player not in

1705
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 2: the NBA. One guy who got to vote Nicola Jovich

1706
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 2: one letter different than Nicola jok There's a guy out

1707
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: there named Nicola Jovich. He's an eighteen year old playing

1708
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 2: in Serbia. He's Serbian, just like his other his other guy,

1709
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: Nicola Jokic, but he's born in England and plays on

1710
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: a Serbian family. So I wonder does he play like

1711
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: Nicola Jokic as well. Well, he's six head, but he's

1712
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: a wing. Yeah, he's probably a little bit more like

1713
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: Evan Mobley. He's out there on the way. He's a

1714
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: shooting art actually, so he's not like a mobile shooting

1715
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 2: garden small Fords. So Nikoli Jovitch can't wait. I love letters.

1716
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 1: You just reminded me Tasks when you were talking about

1717
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: Mobile and the Cavs. There a little bit to go

1718
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: back to the question about who will make their first

1719
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: All Star Game? Was it not you? Task Mills? And

1720
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was on a podcast. I

1721
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: can't remember if it was in a WhatsApp chat. I

1722
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: can't remember if it was just me and you talking.

1723
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 1: I recall you saying Ricky Rubio was going to be

1724
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,839
Speaker 1: in the running as an All Star for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1725
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 2: I'm not making this up, right, You did say that, Yeah,

1726
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: said it, typed it, But I'm over it, Okay, Yeah,

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01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm not into that one anymore.

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01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: Probably the right. I mean, he's not gonna be starting

1729
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: for them.

1730
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: Maybe you never know. I do think they are going

1731
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 2: to move on from Colin Sexton at some point. But okay, yeah,

1732
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 2: they not somebody to put the ball in the hole,

1733
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: and they they don't. You know, if Colin Sexton's not there,

1734
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: then that's what my thinking was. But yeah, I've I've

1735
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: walked that one back walked.

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01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I just wanted to make sure I thought I

1737
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: remember you saying that. Lee. Just to finish it off

1738
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: here at GM survey, did you have a look at it? Yeah,

1739
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: you give Schumann a click.

1740
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 4: What jumped out a couple of cliques. Two things I saw.

1741
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 4: One of them was Lebron James is the best passer

1742
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 4: in the league, tied with Nicola jokicch at thirty three percent,

1743
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 4: down from forty six percent last year, where Lebron was

1744
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 4: the overwhelming best passes. So maybe he's not as good

1745
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 4: a passer anymore. But funnily enough, jar Moran came in

1746
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 4: fifth in the most athletic Player in the NBA fifth.

1747
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 4: I think he's the most athletic player. I mean we've

1748
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 4: seen him already in pre season throwing down like just

1749
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 4: dunk after dunk and highlight reel after highlight reel.

1750
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: Well, who was above them? Let's go through it?

1751
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 4: Who Zion was number one. Okay, fair enough. You know

1752
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 4: he's athletic, but I don't think he's more athletic than Jarmaran.

1753
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well but yeah, I mean that's that. I

1754
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,480
Speaker 4: guess it does come down to, you know, like interpretation

1755
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 4: of you know, like what what do you see as athletic?

1756
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 4: Zach Lavigne was on there? It does, okay, Zach zack

1757
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 4: Lavine was four. Sorry, Jannis was number two. Yeah, he's athletic.

1758
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards number three. Yeah, he's athletic, but not more

1759
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 4: than arm Bran. I wouldn't say, well, no Westbrook, no Westbrook.

1760
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna Doude Diallo received vote, so did Lebron, Derek Jones,

1761
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 4: jr Uh and Ben Simmons. So yeah, I just thought

1762
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 4: fifth for jarm Bran. Come on, he's already just been

1763
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 4: ah man. Some of the stuff he can do, some

1764
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 4: of those lobs he can catch. I just think he's

1765
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 4: super athletic. I think z Ion's athletic, but not more so.

1766
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: Here's a question, freely, who's the most athletic of us?

1767
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 1: Of us? Fine, what in our prime?

1768
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 4: All these days?

1769
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,440
Speaker 3: Let's go let's go hard prime.

1770
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: To think about what he thinks.

1771
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, not me anymore, not me anymore. Probably U ski

1772
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 4: t You're probably the most you know, probably the fittest

1773
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 4: out of us, I would guess.

1774
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: But then, like this is the funny part of it,

1775
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: this questions like I'm not the strongest, not even close

1776
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: a huge athletics, No, no, no, he's I think it's Moran.

1777
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: I think he's thinking speeds.

1778
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're exactly versatility, your ability to sort of speeding

1779
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 4: and catch in the air and all those sorts of things.

1780
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 4: You know. Uh, that's what I think anyway. Okay, like

1781
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 4: the guy.

1782
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: Who's who spends the best, well, I think Moran.

1783
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 4: I think John Moran.

1784
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: You know interesting, John w got a nice Yeah, a

1785
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,879
Speaker 1: lot of three sixties spinning layup last year on the rockets.

1786
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 4: Wow, that feels like that was forever ago.

1787
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: I remember that.

1788
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still there, isn't he. He asked for it, right,

1789
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 4: and that's a tough one.

1790
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: Rockets. He's still there. Yeah, he's still there. All right, Okay,

1791
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: we'll call it there. Talking about athleticism is probably a

1792
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: good side to start wrapping up part one of our

1793
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 1: season previous series. So all week long from here until Friday,

1794
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: we will be asking other questions and answering other questions

1795
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: and making crazy predictions about the upcoming NBA season. So

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01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,719
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Back tomorrow with those questions, a

1802
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: few of them, I'm just gonna tease you which star

1803
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: player will be traded? John, I mean I had the

1804
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: question as besides Ben Simmons, which star will be traded

1805
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: with this breaking news? Now, I mean who knows? Maybe

1806
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: maybe we'll just get rid of that part of the question.

1807
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: Who wins the Western Conference. We'll get into that our

1808
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: award prediction Rookie of the Year, So a little more

1809
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: caid talk, maybe a little jail and talk mobile. We'll

1810
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: see you lots to pick from, it feels like with

1811
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: that one. So that is on tomorrow, Tuesday's part two

1812
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,040
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Speaker 1: But we'll call it there fun long first show. We'll

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1825
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 2: While we were chatting here, guys, I went back and

1826
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: I looked up topics of the day on the Athletics

1827
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: Slack channel. So for over a month, every day for

1828
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 2: over a month. Ben Simmons Trade updates. We're there for

1829
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: over a month. But now tomorrow, what is it going

1830
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: to be Ben Simmons stays updates.

1831
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Status update, Simmons.

1832
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: Status update, Ben Simmons looking for a house update. Ben Simmons.

1833
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 2: Can he buy his old house back? Update?

1834
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 4: Did he sell his I don't think held it yet. Sorry,

1835
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 4: that's like I thought he moved out of it though. Yeah,

1836
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Like now he's wait, wait, did

1837
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 4: he put it all that in storage, and it's like,

1838
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna slight up the U hole again, you know,

1839
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 4: like he's.

1840
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 3: Got two of everything.

1841
01:24:58,439 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: I still don't believe he's playing for this.

1842
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right, but maybe this is basically

1843
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 4: what the six is saying, like we can't trade you

1844
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 4: until you go out there and play and so, and

1845
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 4: he's he's down probably seven hundred grand right now. I

1846
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,759
Speaker 4: think they've had two games, haven't they, feelly so because.

1847
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: You imagine he played though when he like actively just

1848
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: tries to elect shot, he's like throwing it out of bounds,

1849
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: dribbling on his foot on purpose with glaring over it

1850
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 1: more not shooting, and yeah, well that's not Yeah, all right,

1851
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: we got to call it there. We will see you

1852
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: guys tomorrow.

1853
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 3: Praise the Day.

1854
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: People.

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 3: You could stay.

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01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 1: Every day and there you happy every minute.

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01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 3: It's been so long that your FUNA, he's happened already.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of bi grey