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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to a bonus episode. I saw what

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Speaker 1: you did. My name is Millie to Jericho Daniel Henderson,

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Speaker 1: and we are chilling today.

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Speaker 2: That was great.

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Speaker 3: I barely opened my mouth to say my own name.

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Speaker 3: What the hell's gonna happen in this show?

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Speaker 1: Why stage Brad Pitt said, We're all gonna die, so

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Speaker 1: nothing matters anymore?

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Speaker 2: Can I just I love this Brad Pitt a lot,

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Speaker 2: A lot.

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Speaker 3: I just do he and I know we've talked about

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Speaker 3: it on the main feed up, but he is so

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Speaker 3: it's like, what's the opposite of a midlife crisis where

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Speaker 3: he's like reached a point of age where he's just

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Speaker 3: having fun and nothing matters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we need a name for that, because

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Speaker 2: he's in it. He is in it more than I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen anyone in it.

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Speaker 1: What Okay? Now, I can't remember if it was who

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Speaker 1: said this to me? Did somebody say, did Casey say this?

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Speaker 1: Or maybe this was said on another podcast I was

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Speaker 1: on recently where they said that Brad Pitt is a

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Speaker 1: character actor in a movie star's body. Yeah that makes sense, so,

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Speaker 1: meaning like he's got some kind of coolness to him

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Speaker 1: even though he looks like a stud.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Casey immediately was like, I did not say that

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Speaker 3: this is I.

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Speaker 1: Would never say that he is a stun.

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Speaker 2: We will find incite the source. But now I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Who said that.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that was something that I heard. I

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Speaker 3: heard makes sense, but it makes sense. I can't I

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Speaker 3: can't stand how hilarious he is. He's so oh, he's

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Speaker 3: so and it's not that he's given up. It's that

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Speaker 3: he finally reached a point that the rest of us

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Speaker 3: has reached, which is like nothing you do actually matters

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Speaker 3: or changes anything. This is very depressing. I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 3: I like a depressed Brad Pit. I love a sad Pit.

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Speaker 1: I do too. We talked about this before. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the whole reason why I liked Once upon a

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Speaker 1: Time in Hollywood is because I love these old dudes now,

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Speaker 1: Like i mean, granted, Leonardo DiCaprio was just seen out

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Speaker 1: with his like twenty three year old girlfriend, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's older than both of us, but I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying that, like these two guys, like especially Brad Pitt,

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Speaker 1: were like fawned after for so long and then now

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Speaker 1: they just got old and now they're just like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Like I'm just gonna do what I want

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Speaker 1: don't I used to have all these abs and all

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Speaker 1: these smooth lines and now just like want to wear

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Speaker 1: the world, Like who cares?

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Speaker 2: You know, what's happened.

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Speaker 3: Brad hit is having a middle aged woman renaissance. He

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Speaker 3: has finally joined us where we're like, we don't care anymore.

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Speaker 3: No one's looking at us, no one gives a shit.

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Speaker 2: We do not care.

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Speaker 1: He found a white pube and was just like, it's

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Speaker 1: a rap. It's a fucking rap on this. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: just now I'm just normal and I don't give a shit.

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Speaker 3: He's always been funny, and now I think that he's

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Speaker 3: just letting it out more. And I'm sure his publicist

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Speaker 3: is having eight hundred heart attacks a day. But it's

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Speaker 3: worth it for us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm loving it. I mean, I love this stage

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Speaker 1: of fame. Always have always live Listen, you know me,

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Speaker 1: I'm out here celebrating Martin Balsam, the Martin Balsams of

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Speaker 1: the world, like I'm here for seventy is Shelley Winters Okay,

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Speaker 1: not fifty Shelly Winters. I'm here for or Liz Taylor

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Speaker 1: in the eighties. If you want to get down to it, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just not. I do not. Every time I see

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Speaker 1: somebody in the in the youth, yes, you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, Like I don't want a

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Speaker 1: twenty five year old pop star type around. I want

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Speaker 1: to I want the old version, the older version.

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Speaker 2: Give me, give me an old any day. We're here

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Speaker 2: for the olds.

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Speaker 3: It's not against the youngs. I just I love and old.

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Speaker 3: I love seeing the growth and the change and the weirdness.

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Speaker 3: And when the current youngs get there, I'll be into

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Speaker 3: them too. In twenty thirty years, I'll check out what

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Speaker 3: Doja Cat's doing. I don't care what she's doing now, yeah,

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Speaker 3: of course, But in twenty or thirty years, maybe Doja

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Speaker 3: Cat will be like, you know, out on a red

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Speaker 1: Listen. It's the There is some sort of like age levels,

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Speaker 1: some kind of playing field for a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: where now you gotta get your fucking but looked at

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Speaker 1: just like everybody else, Like you got fatty deposits on

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Speaker 1: parts of your body like a fucking dog, Like you're

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Speaker 1: truly just out here, and you gotta like take your

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Speaker 1: fucking cholesterol pills, you gotta, you know, wear your insuls,

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Speaker 1: you gotta fucking get your fat lumps checked out by

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Speaker 1: the doctor. It's like everybody else is doing this. And

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Speaker 1: then when you get to that point, you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well now I know I ain't shit, just like everybody else.

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Speaker 1: And for some reason that's like I don't know, a

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Speaker 2: It's the ultimate.

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Speaker 3: Your body is the ultimate reminder that you ain't shit.

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Speaker 3: Your body is the minute you think like, yeah, this

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Speaker 3: gotta check those lungs every year. We gotta start looking

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Speaker 3: at those fucking zits and those fucking moles every six months.

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Speaker 2: How about we're taking blood out of you like a

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Speaker 2: damn vampire.

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Speaker 3: Anytime you mentioned anything is possibly wrong, your doctor's like,

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Speaker 3: let's take some blood, and I'm like, let's not. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Because they're always like well it could be, and I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna tell me it's the worst possible thing ever,

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Speaker 3: or you're gonna guess that it's the worst possible thing,

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Speaker 3: and then it's just gonna end up being that like

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Listen, all my homies have a seed pat machine. Okay, everybody,

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Speaker 1: all my homies too. Remember when it used to not

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Speaker 1: like fuck it? Like I don't know, just like be old.

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Speaker 3: I used to only see seed pap machines on like

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Speaker 3: the Biggest Loser, and now they genuinely ever art of

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Speaker 3: my life is like some kind of seapep shit.

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Speaker 1: I saw an ad the other day where now you

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Speaker 2: There's like an oh I that ad.

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Speaker 2: They've evolved and see perhaps have been around for so long.

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Speaker 2: They've evolved from the machine to like, hey.

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Speaker 3: Just strap this on your face and it's like one

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Speaker 3: friends are gonna be happy Listen. I have a friend

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Speaker 3: right now who has two buttholes, and I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: reveel who what as a result of pregnancy. And this

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Speaker 3: child is old. This child is older. It's not a baby.

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Speaker 3: This child is like in school and can like recite

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Speaker 3: facts about presidents old.

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Speaker 2: And she had a fishchilla and has had two buttholes ever.

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Speaker 3: Since she had a fucking baby. And now she's like

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Speaker 3: talking about how they're trying to deal with it. She's

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Speaker 1: You said, fischilla. Is that what she said?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, after you said fistchiller, I was like, is that

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Speaker 1: a new thing? I don't know about, say fishchiller.

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Speaker 3: Like, we got wet, here are problems, we here are

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, you got two but holes and you're

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Speaker 1: Look, that's the side of an evolved species, if you

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Speaker 1: It's like she's moving into a new a new realm,

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Speaker 3: She's gonna be breathing out of one of those things

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Speaker 2: But she is like, I gotta go to work.

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Speaker 1: I would I'm not gonna lie two but holes sounds

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a like a it sounds cool. But

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Speaker 3: in reality I think it would cause a lot of

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's just like open up another line

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Speaker 1: you got two places to go now, not just one.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to wait in a big line now,

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Speaker 3: Open up the express lane of your body is what

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Speaker 3: we're saying. I'm holding out for a valve. I can't

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Speaker 3: wait until we get like a little spigot and you

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Speaker 3: can just turn it and be like period, turn, here

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Speaker 2: It's all out.

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Speaker 3: You just sell on the toilet for like three hours

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Speaker 3: There comes a shit like That's what I'm looking for,

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Speaker 3: Like press a button and like all of it comes out.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so pissed if there's a valve before

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Speaker 1: before I die, Like listen, I'm gonna be like yo,

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Speaker 1: I spent decades, decades without the valve, and then now

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Speaker 1: it's all easy peasy. It just all happens in a day,

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Speaker 1: and then you don't have anything to do anything for

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Speaker 1: a month or something. What are we saying the valve

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Speaker 1: is a monthly thing. It's every three days.

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Speaker 3: You're saying the valve vash not like the valve should

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Speaker 3: should be a daily thing.

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Speaker 1: A daily thing.

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Speaker 3: I think it should be a daily thing where you're like,

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Speaker 3: guess what, I don't want these eggs this month. Press

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Speaker 3: the fucking button, get it all out, Like you decide

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Speaker 3: your body. The fucking moon doesn't decide. Your calendar doesn't decide.

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Speaker 2: You're like, I don't want these eggs, get them out

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Speaker 2: of me. Okay, let's let the next ones drop daily?

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Speaker 1: Is that still seems like a lot like weekly.

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Speaker 3: But for people my attention, you got my attention, you

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Speaker 3: gotta release.

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Speaker 2: The valve daily. If you're doing pee and pooh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah I see that. But I'm just saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if we've got a valve, do we have to pee

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Speaker 1: and pooh every day? I'm just saying, if we're in a.

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Speaker 2: Next level, you know your next level, you're you're.

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Speaker 3: Advanced, You're like, how about we shut down the whole

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Speaker 3: bodily process for a while until we're ready, and then

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Speaker 3: you just express that ship and you're good for five days.

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Speaker 2: Listen like' that's advanced.

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Speaker 1: Do some innerspace ship with like Dennis Quaid traveling through

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Speaker 1: the fucking body making me have a one week poo

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Speaker 1: that comes out in a valve and then it's it.

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Speaker 2: Here here's a good question.

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Speaker 3: They develop an inner space type system where you will

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Speaker 3: never get sick, you'll never have a single illness in

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Speaker 3: your life, but you have to have a little person

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Speaker 3: in a spaceship living inside your body.

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Speaker 2: Would you do it? No? Because they can hear all

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Speaker 1: The gray Goo is a hypothetical global catastrophic scenario involving

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Speaker 1: Look, I would love it because I fucking hate social media.

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Speaker 3: Because the world has made us think that that's how

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Speaker 3: We need an uprising. We need an uprising of Victorian

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Speaker 3: There's also too many people in the world, but that's

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Speaker 3: A fuck about yes, preat shit, Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I would still do a microscopic. I would have both

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Speaker 1: It's totally fine. I mean that to me. I get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like the inside is disgusting. It looks

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be calling like base control and be like

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Speaker 1: Somebody putting me in Selena Gomez's money?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Can you imagine the fucking steaks again?

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Speaker 3: And then can you imagine the fucking NDAs, Like you

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Speaker 3: the NDAs are gonna be insane, Like you cannot post

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody's writing a fucking memoir about your hemorrhoid and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be the unauthorized story and you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: how we're all going to be like in fucking class

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Speaker 3: that world where they're like, you're in a class action

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Speaker 3: Now you're in that class action lawsuit, and there will

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Speaker 3: You got the better class action because you're doing the

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Speaker 1: And this woman was standing mixed a leather face up

439
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: Planet Fitness and god like how what why? Why me?

440
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 1: Why me in my tiny craft moving into somebody's body.

441
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 3: There's going to be a sub social media network amongst

442
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 3: the macroscopic people in our body, just.

443
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: Like complaining blind items, complaining like a doom wah meets

444
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: a gawker, like what a what a great world we've

445
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: just painted.

446
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: I love this world we're creating.

447
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 3: We got we got shit valves, period valves, pe valves

448
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: at you're just at your leisure up to a week.

449
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: Up to a week you can go without having to

450
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: press that valve. We got little tidy people in your

451
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 3: body who are supposed to be monitoring any illness you

452
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: could have in zapping it, zapping it before it happens.

453
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: But instead they have a social media network where they

454
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: talk about how grosser body is. They're also having to

455
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: sign NDA's because they're all fighting over who gets to

456
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: be in the better bodies celebrity body.

457
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: This is a great world. I love this world we're.

458
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: Creating, and I absolutely think we should write a movie

459
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 3: about this.

460
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: Look, I we're not gonna answer any questions, are we

461
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: because I have to tell you about my fucking my

462
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: new screenplay idea.

463
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: Oh please do so to the bonus, we can do

464
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: whatever we want.

465
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: We can. Maybe we might read one letter who knows

466
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: it's wild for wild women, wild fucking women. So today

467
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: we were like Roman, I actually went into work today

468
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: and much like every corporation right now, it's a fucking

469
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: graveyard of old office shit. No one comes to work.

470
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: There are fucking entire floors of like nothing like this's

471
00:24:53,680 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: just like offices with like people's fucking old premiums from

472
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: like you know, a channel that like let's go get

473
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: our fucking like the Closer mugs, like shows that aren't

474
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: on TV anymore, like oh my god, what's that show

475
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: Franklin and Bash, like my old Franklin and Bash blanket,

476
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: like just people's ditch like shit from like TV shows

477
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: from like ten fifteen years ago. It was mixed with

478
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: like piles of like old equipment. Old fucking like filing

479
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: cabinets and stuff, and so like we were like at

480
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: work because we were trying to find we were scouting

481
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: a location and I'm not saying that to be fancy.

482
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: We were literally just trying to find a place to

483
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: fucking shoot a dumb YouTube video. And we were walking around.

484
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I swear to guy like we walked probably

485
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: for two hours around this giant campus, you know. And

486
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: I was like, what if this was a screenplay. What

487
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: if it was a horror movie where a bunch of

488
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: old office policys come into their office post COVID, trying

489
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: to find a place to have a meeting, and then

490
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: all of the old abandoned tech attacks them.

491
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: Nice, are we talking like whipping them with wires attack

492
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: or just like I'm in your life attack.

493
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: It's all kinds of stuff. It's like a disaster movie

494
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: meets like monster a monster thing like, and it would

495
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: be everything from like file fold hanging file folders like

496
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: too brads, have you remember fucking brads?

497
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, brads, how much of my goddamn life

498
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: did I waste trying to put a bread inside a

499
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: stack of papers?

500
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

501
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: No one uses a brad and I'm like, there are boxes,

502
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: boxes of brads all over the place, just like all

503
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: this crazy shit, like all this old premium's old, Like

504
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: you know.

505
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: You need to watch that, you need to write that movie.

506
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: See, I was thinking that, But I am have zero

507
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: patients to write, Like I'm like, now that I wrote

508
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: a book, am, i ain't fucking writing anything again, Like.

509
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: That's I'm not even signing overseas.

510
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it because I cannot

511
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: do that shit again. I'm gonna have to ghostwrite it

512
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: or something because I'm like, it's that whole that game. Wow,

513
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: that really like blew me on my ass.

514
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: So I know, I truly have thought a lot about

515
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: writing another book, and I feel like the medium calls

516
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: for you having something to say, Like a book is

517
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: great if you have something to say, that is like

518
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 3: this is the way to do it.

519
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: And I don't.

520
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: I don't know that I could write a book based

521
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 3: on anything I have to say. I could do it

522
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: at the end of my life when I'm ready for

523
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: everyone to hate me.

524
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: Hmmm. I have a lot of hateful thoughts.

525
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 3: And also I don't know, I don't know if I

526
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 3: really want I'm proud of the book I wrote, but

527
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 3: interrogating my own life, it doesn't seem interesting enough to

528
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: me past the point of what I wrote. Yeah, Like,

529
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure it is in some way, but like I

530
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: would really have to think long and hard about, like

531
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: what do I want to say about my own experience

532
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: and a novel? Fuck that, I don't think I could

533
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: ever have enough patience to write a novel.

534
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: Well, you're still working on your are you. Aren't you

535
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: like writing a book about Alaska or trying to.

536
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: I was, yeah, but this is well, this is part

537
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: of it. It's like I started writing this book and

538
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know what I want to say

539
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: about this. Yeah, Like I don't have anything revelatory. I

540
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: don't have anything important, Like I don't have anything that

541
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: you know.

542
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: I haven't processed a lot of this in.

543
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: A way that I want to write about it, And

544
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: so I just kind of stopped because I just don't

545
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: know what. I don't know what I would I don't know,

546
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: oh yet, what I would say about the experience, except

547
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: for like, here's a bunch of shit that happened to

548
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: me when I lived in Alaska for four years, And

549
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's interesting enough to sell a book.

550
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you also, you and the listeners of

551
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: our bonus episodes, selling a book is really fucking hard.

552
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

553
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 3: And if you publish a book and you're paid for

554
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: it and it doesn't sell as much as they hoped

555
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: it would sell for it's really shattering to think about

556
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: writing another book and being that disappointing to somebody. Yeah,

557
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: that's what's holding me back right now, is like I

558
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: think I have to have something incredible to say because

559
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: I don't want my publisher to be like, this piece

560
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: of shit doesn't sell any books. Not that they would,

561
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: but like, that's what's in my head in my heart

562
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: right now, is like I don't sell so am I

563
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: a good gamble for this dumb.

564
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: Story about Alaska?

565
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, but see that to me, that shit

566
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: is all like I say it through the len of

567
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 1: like albums, right, It's like, yeah, you have an album

568
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: like Nevermind, but then you know it's impossible, it's a

569
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: fucking impossible to do the second never Mind, so you

570
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: have to have it in utero, right. But then later,

571
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: many years down the line, people are like, yo, that

572
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: in utero, that shit slaps and like at the time

573
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: they were like, eh, but now it's something and so

574
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just to me, I know that

575
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: that's not how business works. Okay, I'm stupid, but I'm

576
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: just saying that, Like I always find that that's like

577
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: such a such a shitty metric to live by in

578
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: that way where they're just like, well, I did this

579
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: thing and it was this like great experience for me.

580
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: But yet you know, now somebody's saying, it's not like

581
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't get to do it again or I shouldn't

582
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: do it again because it wasn't I don't know something

583
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

584
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: To me, I just think that's yeah, it's and it's

585
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: also a shitty way to work. Like I what I

586
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: should be doing in the two minutes a day that

587
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: I have to myself right now, what I should be

588
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: doing and what I want to get back to is

589
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: writing because I want to write, and not writing because

590
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: I want it to be a best selling book. Like

591
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: I hate thinking in that way and I shouldn't be

592
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: thinking in that way. I should be That's why I

593
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: kind of think I need to wait until I have

594
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 3: something to say because I want I want it to

595
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: just be something like my first book, which is this

596
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: is important for me to say for myself, and I'm

597
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 3: glad that other people can access it.

598
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: But I don't think i'll.

599
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: Write another book until I feel that again, because I

600
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: don't like that thing hanging over my head of like

601
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: the whole business of selling a book and trying to

602
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: live up to like the standard of publishing, which is

603
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: incredibly arbitrary.

604
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no sense of it. As somebody who's

605
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 1: about to release a book in the next couple weeks, like,

606
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: I have zero sense of it, And that's maybe why

607
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: I shouldn't write them, because I'm like, I don't know, Like,

608
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: do you know how many fucking books there are in

609
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: this world? Like literally, go to a thrift store. There's

610
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: like an entire shelf full of books about how to

611
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: microwave shit? Do you know how many books there are

612
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: in this world? Like why am I stressing about this?

613
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Like I did the best that

614
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: I could. If people like it, then they like it.

615
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: If they don't, they oh fucking well, I don't.

616
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: Know that's exactly, but that's the right attitude to have.

617
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: And I think that you wanted to write this book

618
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: because you put all of this time and effort into

619
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: building TCM Underground over all of these years, and you

620
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: had something to say about it, And I think that's fantastic,

621
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: and I think that is a great reason to write

622
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: a book, is like, here is something that I want

623
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 3: on my own shelf to encapsulate my own experience that

624
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: I have had building this thing. And that's great, And

625
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: you might not do another book again until you feel

626
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: that again, Like I want to write about the things

627
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: that are important to me, or just things from my

628
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: own perspective that are important to me. And I think

629
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: that is the place that we should always be and

630
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: not worrying about the business shit because the business shit

631
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: is arbitrary and we can't figure it out. And it's

632
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: just like I've been taking It's taken me a year

633
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: and I'm still not there. I'm trying to get back

634
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 3: to that place where I'm just writing for myself again,

635
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: and it's really hard to do after you write a

636
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: book and send it out into the world. And I

637
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: think that it's that's what I hope you get to,

638
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: is this place where you're like, cause I think your

639
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: ideas and the things that you've even talked to me

640
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: about and I'm always like or the essays you've already written,

641
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: and I'm always like, you should like this is a

642
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: book to me when you talk to me about things

643
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: only because I know that I've never heard your perspective

644
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: before in that way, or that I've never seen someone

645
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: write about even the films or the industry or anything

646
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 3: in that way.

647
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: Like your voice is unique and special, and I think that.

648
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: As long as it feels good to you, you should write

649
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: whatever you want to write without worrying about the business though,

650
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 3: because that side sucks.

651
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I have such low stakes all the

652
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: time that I'm like like, I'm like, oh, if this happens,

653
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm happy, Like I so a couple of weeks ago,

654
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: this is gonna be kind of a convoluted story. Hopefully

655
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: you guys are with me. So the book that I

656
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: just wrote is like a I would call it sort

657
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: of a reference book. I mean, it's basically like fifty

658
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: titles a film, right me and my co writer. I

659
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: picked twenty five, she picked twenty five, and they're all

660
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: cult films right now. I grew up reading books like this.

661
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: I grew up reading the Danny Perry cult movies books.

662
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: I grew up reading that video hound, you know, cult

663
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: movie guy. I grew up reading Michael weldon Psychotronic Book,

664
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: the Book of Film that he wrote. Okay, yeah, so

665
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: I heard that. Michael Weldon, who did Psychotronic magazine and

666
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: he wrote that book, that bible that I studied in

667
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: high school and college, lived in Augusta, which is about

668
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: two hours outside of where I live right now. And

669
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: then he has a record store. And in the the

670
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: not the forward, but the intro to the book, I

671
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: mentioned him as being a big influence on how I

672
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: learned about Cole movies. So I got in the car

673
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: and was like, I'm bringing this dude a copy of

674
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: the book whether he wants.

675
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: It or not.

676
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: His name is in it. How could he not want it?

677
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: And he's gonna think I'm totally crazy, but I'm gonna

678
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: do it. And so he's sitting in his record store

679
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: and I just walked in there and and you know,

680
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: started like pretending that I was looking at stuff. And

681
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: then I was like, and you know what I mean,

682
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: I never do shit like this. I never, like I

683
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: go up to people I love this ever, And I

684
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: was basically like, Hi, are you Michael, And He's like, yes,

685
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, you don't know me, but I just

686
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: drove from Atlanta. I wrote this book about cult movies.

687
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: It's just it's about to come out, and I'm saying

688
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of yours. I grew up reading

689
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: your books. It was like part of the reason like

690
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: why I do what I do and blah blah blah. Anyway,

691
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that, yeah'm a fan, and

692
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: also here's a copy of this book or whatever.

693
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: And he was just like amazing.

694
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: What Like he looks at me like what the fuck?

695
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: And at first I think he got freaked out, but eventually,

696
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: after some time he warmed up to me and there

697
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: was a moment where he was flipping through the book

698
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: right and I was like, oh my god, I'm freaking

699
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: the fuck out here, what the fuck is going on?

700
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: And he was like, man, there's some stuff in here

701
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of. And I was like, amazing.

702
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: I was like, that's it. That's why I wrote it,

703
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: just to have him say that shit to me. And honestly,

704
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,479
Speaker 1: it really is gonna be the best part, Like, yeah,

705
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: five billion copies of this book or I could have

706
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: Michael Weldon from Psychotronic magazine say that I stumped him

707
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: maybe or something, you know what I mean. So it's

708
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: just the other thing where I'm.

709
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: Like, mom, that is special.

710
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: That's my goals. Like you can't run business off of

711
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: that ship. Like that's why I'm like, yo, I've had

712
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: swell stakes. I have no concept of how to do anything.

713
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm just all I care about is like tidy

714
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: little things, and I don't know. That's why I'm like,

715
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: I just don't have the business sense for it.

716
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: Like I'm just like, yeah, I'm the same.

717
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm like that to me, that is important and special

718
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: and I'm so glad you did that.

719
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: I love that you did that.

720
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: And here's what's special, Like it's special just on its face,

721
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: Like it is very cool that you got to give

722
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: a book to someone who is a huge influence for

723
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: you in your life and in this in this industry. Yeah,

724
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 3: someone's gonna do that to you one day. Someone is

725
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: gonna do that to you one day. And that is

726
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: what matters about writing this book. And You're right, I'm

727
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: the same way. And it is not good for business

728
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: because I'm like I don't care. I hope five people

729
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: read it and connect with it, and it helps them

730
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: in some way, and they're like, we need you to

731
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: sell five hundred thousand million copies and I'm like, but

732
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: I only know ten people like I am awful at

733
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: that shit.

734
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm just like I just want like

735
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: my sister to be able to get it, you know

736
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not like you know and I

737
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: but I also feel like in a weird way. And

738
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: this is probably because I'm this has to be because

739
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: we're like gen xers, like fucking millennials, fuckingen nobody thinks

740
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: like this anymore. Where I'm just like, isn't that enough?

741
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: Just somebody being creative and then working towards a goal

742
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: and having an outcome? Isn't that enough?

743
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 3: I know, I know that's where my creative brain lives,

744
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: Like isn't it enough that I just wrote this thing

745
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 3: that connects to a person and everyone's always like, we

746
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: need you to bump that up times a million?

747
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I have it in me.

748
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if I have it in me.

749
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: It's impossible for me to think like that, Like it

750
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: just can't. I've tried. I have tried to go into

751
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: like any creative thing, like anything that I do and

752
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: been like, yeah, we're gonna get a million people to

753
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: watch this YouTube video, you know, And I'm like, oh,

754
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: ten people watched it. That's amazing. That's better than a

755
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: lot of shit, you know what. And I'm like, I

756
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: just can't, I can't try to do it, like it

757
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: just doesn't I know, don't.

758
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: I mean truly, truly. It is also like that for us.

759
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 3: I think with this pod where we're like, it's great

760
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: if ten people connect to it, yes, how awesome if

761
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: ten people connect, Like I don't need a big audience

762
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: or following, like we just love doing for the sake

763
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: of doing it, but like people are paying for this shit.

764
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: The first part of my life, my adult life, was

765
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: spent working in non commercial college radio mm hmm. The

766
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: second half of my life was spent working on non

767
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: commercial classic movie network. So the fucking metrics have never

768
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: crossed my mind. Like I never had. I never was

769
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: guided by Nielsen ratings, by any of the listeners of

770
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: any of the radio shows that I did. I'm just

771
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm constantly just doing things without any concept of success.

772
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm just like, yeah, that is such a weird

773
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: world to be in, because it makes you feel like

774
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: a like you can do whatever you want, it's fine,

775
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: and be like everything creative is worth it. Like it's

776
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: just like everything that you try at least you tried

777
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: it kind of thing, and so well, then when you

778
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: get into the other part, like you get out of

779
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: that headspace and then you go to a place where

780
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: it's like I don't know, Google or fucking Netflix or

781
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: something where it's like super competitive and they're always by

782
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: the numbers. I could not fucking thrive in that environment.

783
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm just like a fucking yeah, i am like a

784
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: Daniel Klou's character. I'm like in the basement. I'm like

785
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: in the basement, tinkering with my weird shit and like, no,

786
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: I have no concept of commercial success. I think that

787
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: that instinct shows in what we do because we actually

788
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: care the fact that we get caught up in stuff

789
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: sometimes when doing this podcast. We care about people. We

790
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: care about like things, we're like sensitive people, like from

791
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: a business, you don't have fucking time for shit like that.

792
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: You don't care about other people, you don't care about

793
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: people's feelings. Capitalism is you know what it is, and

794
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: there is no time for fucking losers. But it's that

795
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: thing where I'm like, I don't know. I just can't

796
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: help but feel that, like I feel like and if

797
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: that ends up not succeeding, then so be it. But

798
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I don't feel good being

799
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: another person. If we were supposed to, if we were

800
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: going to be have two point three million Instagram followers

801
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: with no one we know, like that would.

802
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: That it's terrible? Yeah, yeah, I woud feel terrible. I'd

803
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: be like, wait, who are you?

804
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 3: What is going on? Why do you listen? It would

805
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: raise more questions than it answered. Yeah, and it wouldn't

806
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: make me feel like we're doing anything kind of special

807
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: or unique.

808
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I don't If we do

809
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: ever get to that point, it's not the goal.

810
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 3: And I think that's what's important, is like, I don't

811
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to change anything about what we're doing

812
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: to reach a point that is very arbitrary. Yeah, and

813
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: that's why I'm not good at business like. And again,

814
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: i'll talk about this now because I might literally never

815
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 3: talk I've never talked about it before. I probably will

816
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 3: never talk about it again. When my book came out,

817
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 3: there was another book that came out, another memoir or

818
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: a couple of memoirs even, but one in particular that

819
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: came out around the same time that mine did and

820
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 3: was a New York Times bestseller and was just kind

821
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: of like a bigger splash of a book. And I'd

822
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: watched this author for years cultivate this audience and this

823
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: persona and this business essentially like this brand, and so

824
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: when their book came out, it was just like, of

825
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 3: course it's a bestseller, and of course it's because their

826
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: book was like my book was traumatic and funny and

827
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: their book was just traumatic. And so I think that

828
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 3: people there's a certain audience that knows how to accept

829
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: a certain type of book, and I think that a

830
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: lot of people just didn't know how to accept my

831
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: book or my life because I've never been like a

832
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: monolithic black person, and so I think when they're like,

833
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: oh my god, this is a black person, but she's

834
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: talking about a lot of like heavy metal and art

835
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: shit and weird shit, and like, we're just not used

836
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: to that. And this is not to make any excuses

837
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: for anything. I think that my book hit exactly who

838
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: it needed to hit, and I'm thrilled for any person

839
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 3: that read it, and I'm proud of it, I really am.

840
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 3: But it was just a very interesting experiment to look

841
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: at and say, like, oh, so if you build the brand,

842
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: if you cultivate that and you kind of court people

843
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: into buying into who you are as a person, than

844
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: anything you do will be marginally successful from a business standpoint.

845
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: And let me tell you, that just feels weird as

846
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: fuck to me. And part of it is that I

847
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: know it is absurd to say because I have a

848
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: podcast and a TV show and of this, and that

849
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: I'm fairly proud, like I will give you the information

850
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: about myself that I want to know. I don't want

851
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: to be a brand. I don't want people to have

852
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 3: constant access to me. It seems exhausting and weird, and

853
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 3: I want to be like, hey, this is what I'm

854
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 3: giving you, Like I'm giving you this podcast every week,

855
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 3: I'm giving you this book, Like that's it. If you're

856
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: not in my life, you don't get to know more

857
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 3: than that right now until I do the next thing

858
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 3: that I want you to know about. So I think

859
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: it's weird. That's what's fundamentally weird to me about like

860
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: having to turn yourself into a brand or turn yourself

861
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: into a business. Person as an artist is like, I

862
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 3: don't think art should be that accessible all the time,

863
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 3: or the artist should not.

864
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: Be that accessible all the time.

865
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you need time to go away and create,

866
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 3: away from the public eye, and then come back with

867
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: what feels good for you. So I can see you

868
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: writing a book again. Long, long story short. I can

869
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: absolutely see you write another book, and I think that

870
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: it's valuable and valid and useful to think of it

871
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: from that that place of like I want to do

872
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: this for me.

873
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see if they'll let me.

874
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, I can always self publish, absolutely, Like I

875
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: see a lot of those books on Amazon all the

876
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: fucking time, self published.

877
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: You and the gray Goo, You and the grey Goo

878
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: folks could be out there self publishing.

879
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: Shit, what was the one I think? Like I cracked

880
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 1: half I read one time. I read this like self

881
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: published book about someone who thought that they were friends

882
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: with the Zodiac killer or something, and I was like, oh, wow,

883
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: this is a really uh, very interesting book. I think

884
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: it was held together with brads Damn. It was really interesting.

885
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: But you know, it's a thing where I'm like, listen,

886
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna just because it was hard. Doesn't mean

887
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: if somebody was like, you want to write another book,

888
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: I would say no, of course it would have to

889
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: be I'd have to see what's going on. But I'm

890
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: just saying that, like, when it comes down to it,

891
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm probably the worst person to write a book because

892
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: it's just like I have I freak the fuck out

893
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: all the time. And also I have no sense of

894
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: how to sell it or how to sell myself. I

895
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: just am like, I just did it. Isn't that enough?

896
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 2: Exactly?

897
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: And again I feel like that's that has to be

898
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: something with our generation or age, because I have never

899
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: met a motherfucker my age that ever wanted to be

900
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: a brand like that. Like, yeah, it's few and far between.

901
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: Most people I know my age, my homies are like,

902
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I want to stay

903
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: behind the scenes.

904
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And that is definitely generational. And it's also

905
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: I think a product of the way that we learned

906
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: how to be creative and how to be artists, as

907
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 3: we learned from people who were like, go into a

908
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: cave and make your fucking art. Like, it's just a

909
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: different way of learning how to be creative, which again,

910
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: does it make any of the new way less valid.

911
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: It's just very different, and I can't use my old

912
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: ass ways of creating in this new ass business model.

913
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: Like it's it's a hard cell.

914
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: Look. I suffer from that fucking big star mentality where

915
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm just like mm hmm, I'm just gonna like make

916
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: things an obscurity and hope that in like thirty forty years,

917
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: people fucking reissue my shit like you gotter I'm dead

918
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: and gone, like they, I will be seen as some

919
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: kind of influential master. But it ain't gonna be until

920
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm at death's door. Oh good with my valve. My buz.

921
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: Mad about the fact that the valve came out just

922
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: in the last year of your life, Like you guys

923
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 3: gonna have valves from now on and I only get.

924
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: It for the last year. Fuck y'all.

925
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: Look, I don't think we intended to be talking about

926
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: anything that we talked about today.

927
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: Hello, But we were in our feelings.

928
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Hey, we were in our feelings.

929
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: And you know, do you read like one or two letters?

930
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you want you want to the first one

931
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: would be good. The first one at least is something. Okay,

932
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: So we have a we have a piece of mail

933
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: from Victoria goes by. She her pronouns it's called horror

934
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: movie sleepover programming question. Dear Danielle and Millian all of

935
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: the I saw what she did, folks. I've been watching

936
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: horror movies with one of my best friends, Michelle for

937
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: forty years. We met when we were eleven and it

938
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: was all over after watching Creep Show together. Michelle even

939
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: dressed as Jodi at my Halloween sleepover the next year.

940
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: We've shared decades of spooky entertainment together, even when we

941
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: lived far apart, and at fifty two, we're still having

942
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: horror film sleepovers. Weens a few times a year. A

943
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: ween starts with hugs, loving on the pets, and catching

944
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: up snacks and beverages. Come out with the first movie

945
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: chosen from the list we've made since our last ween,

946
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: starting strongest key, because a weien goes for at least

947
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. We choose as we go, winding down

948
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: with what we want to watch past midnight, and then

949
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: waking up with something light when the sun comes up.

950
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: With the visiting and chatting after each one, we end

951
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: up watching six or seven films we want to watch.

952
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: Vintage horror movies for our next ween and with Millie's

953
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: extensive film knowledge and Daddie's tutelage from her grandmother, you

954
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: two are the perfect resource. I'd be extra grateful if

955
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: you included suggestions of when to watch them afternoon snack,

956
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: right before bed, with coffee at daybreak. We ourselves are

957
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: vintage and we've seen many of the classics, so we

958
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: want to find amazing pre nineteen eighty movies that are

959
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: off the beaten path but still available to stream. Thank

960
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: you both for sharing your friendship and insight with us. Victoria,

961
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: I love it.

962
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: I am put I'm being put on the spot a

963
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: little bit because I'm like, Okay, now we gotta not

964
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: only give movies, we got to give times a day

965
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: to watch them.

966
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Okay, that could be hard for me.

967
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: That's hard because because I don't know you. Yeah, there's

968
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: a lot of questions. The weiens. The way it's spelled

969
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: apostrophe w ee ns is like a Halloween. It's like

970
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: the last half of a Halloween.

971
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 2: Right, here's what I'm gonna say.

972
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: How about we recommend a couple of classic movies, and again,

973
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: you may have already seen them.

974
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: This is a horror, This is a tough order. It's

975
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: a tough order.

976
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna name some of my favorite nineteen seventies

977
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: horror films and hope that it works. I don't know

978
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: if you've seen How Sue. That's a good one. I

979
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 3: do not know what time of day you should watch it,

980
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 3: but how Sue is great? Ha u su Two o'clock

981
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: in the morning. Yeah, I think that's it's a Criterion

982
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: collection movie. It should be streaming somewhere. If not on

983
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: the Criterion channel, you should definitely watch the og Invasion

984
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 3: of the Body Snatchers. Donald Sutherland in that movie is

985
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: unfuck with able. I believe we've already covered it in

986
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: the podcast. But if you haven't watched Piranha, oh.

987
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: God genius, you won't hear any complaints from me. I

988
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: fucking love that movie.

989
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like you should go hard on Piranha.

990
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 3: And this is a movie I haven't seen in a

991
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: long time, so I don't know if it stands up,

992
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 3: if it needs a trigger warning or what. But Jodie

993
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: Foster was in a movie called Little Girl who.

994
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: Lives Down the Lane.

995
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, And.

996
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a goodie.

997
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

998
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: So's start with those. You pick the time, you read

999
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 3: the descriptions, you figure it out. We can't do that,

1000
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 3: but I'm happy to recommend a classic horror movie anytime.

1001
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: All Right, you said vintage, I'm going fucking Vin Titch

1002
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: do it to them. I'm talking nineteen forties. Damn, have

1003
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: you seen any Val Luton movies? Just out of curiosity?

1004
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: So Val Luton was a producer at RKO, made a

1005
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: bunch of horror movies in the forties. Okay, a lot

1006
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: of them were directed by the great French director Jacques Torneau. Okay,

1007
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: I will say, because there's quite a few that he produced.

1008
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: You can get them all on a box set. By

1009
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: the way, nice if you're into physical media, you can

1010
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: definitely get them in a box set. Watch Cat People.

1011
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: That's probably his most famous one is Cat People from

1012
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: nineteen forty two. But I gotta tell you, you gotta

1013
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: watch Curse of the Cat People. Ooh, that came out

1014
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: only two years later. It has little to nothing to

1015
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: do with the original Cat People, but it to me

1016
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: is weird at fuck. It's basically a movie where a

1017
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: little girl starts communicating with the ghost of her dad's

1018
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: dead First wife.

1019
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 2: Oh complicated, Yes, And.

1020
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: I think the only tie is like with something about

1021
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: there's a very loose tie to the first one, but

1022
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's kind of like creepy kid stuff. I

1023
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: think it's great, and in fact, I sort of love

1024
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: it more than the original Cat People. But anyway, dads,

1025
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: if you want to go super fucking vintage, that's nineteen forties.

1026
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: That's you might as well be talking about Beethoven at

1027
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: this point. But I like those Valut movies and I

1028
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: would watch them in the morning because they're not like

1029
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: super duper scary, and they're just kind of like atmospheric.

1030
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: They're black and white. It's kind of cool visuals. It's

1031
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: that kind of noir ish. Watch them in the morning,

1032
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: that's fucking chilly, like when you're having a weien. That's

1033
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: a morning movie, and then watch how Soon or something

1034
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: late at night.

1035
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: That's my exrilllege.

1036
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 3: Look, we somehow did it, even though we did not

1037
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 3: think we could. And Victoria, I want you to have

1038
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: a fantastic ween with your friend. I love that you

1039
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: get together and watch films and just connect in that way.

1040
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 3: And I hope this helps me too.

1041
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm digging the fact that you and your friends get

1042
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: together for movies. It's a lot of stuff that we

1043
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: like to do too, so thank you for writing and

1044
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: good luck with it.

1045
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 3: This one is This is a letter email that we

1046
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: receive from Lindsay, who uses she her pronouns, and the

1047
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: subject of this email is a short and wholesome tale reminiscent.

1048
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: Of our youths. Hello. I don't have.

1049
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: Any wild movie viewing or theater working tales, but I

1050
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: do have a short, wholesome tale from the days before

1051
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: the internet. This was back when you either found the

1052
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: movie times in the local paper or an hour case

1053
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: could also call them up and an actual person would

1054
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: answer and tell you the movie times. I feel like

1055
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: they could have figured out a recording much sooner than

1056
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: they did, But hey, who am I to tell a

1057
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 3: rural movie theater what to do?

1058
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: Do you remember that drummer calling for movie times?

1059
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: Oh?

1060
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: Hell yes, how much of our life?

1061
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 3: I would say we probably each spent a smooth two

1062
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: hundred hours just if you add up all the times

1063
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 3: we had to call for movie times.

1064
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I remember when the movie phone guy would

1065
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: try to sneak in a fucking trailer what you call?

1066
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: And I'd just be like you can go to hell.

1067
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 3: Now it's time for this. I want you to tell

1068
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 3: me when fucking point break is playing. Yes, because I'm

1069
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 3: literally outside the theater on a payphone, or I'm near

1070
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 3: the theater on a payphone, or I'm at my dumb

1071
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: friend's house and we don't have a paper. Only of

1072
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: this trailer, I need to know we have parents who

1073
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: are willing to take us for the next five minutes only. Yes, Oh,

1074
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: somember that, So, Lindsey continues. One afternoon, a friend and

1075
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to the movie. So I dialed

1076
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: the number on our cordless phone, and after the gruff

1077
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 3: grandpa like hello, I said, Hi, I was calling for

1078
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: the movie Times, a little hesitantly because I was used

1079
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: to a teenager answering Liberty Theater with forced enthusiasm without

1080
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 3: missing a beat. The gruff grandpa on the other line said,

1081
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: with a bit of a twang, Well, now I don't know,

1082
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 3: let me.

1083
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: Go get the paper.

1084
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Speaker 3: It took me a second to realize, Oh, I had misdialed,

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Speaker 3: and this gentleman had some quick wit.

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00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: I apologized and.

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00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 3: He chuckled, and I eventually dialed the right number to

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00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: find out the Times for probably cruel intentions, She's all that,

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00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: or whatever other possible movie could have been playing in

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00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine. Now that I've drawn you in with

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00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 3: my cute story, please let me tell you how much

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00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 3: I absolutely love your podcast. I came for the friendship,

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00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 3: and I stayed for that and the movies, realizing I

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00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: was way more of a movie person than I thought

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00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: I was. As a mixed Native woman who loves movies,

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00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: what finds myself grumbling? Whose land are they on?

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00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: Anyway?

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00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: Every time I watch just about anything. One thing I've

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00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 3: learned listening to your podcast is how important not only

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00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: representation is in the actual media we consume, but how

1101
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: important representation is and who talks about the media we consume.

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00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: I appreciate your fearless critiques around how whiteness and patriarchy

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: are wrapped into the films we watch more than I

1104
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: can say. You are two of the smartest women I've

1105
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: ever encountered, not to mention the funniest, making me laugh

1106
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: so many times in a world where joy can feel

1107
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: hard to come by. I've recommended your podcast to many

1108
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 3: grateful people, including my cismail partner, who finally took my

1109
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: advice and listened to you, only to have his first

1110
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: episode be the one that made him cry as Santielle

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00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: talked about loving Milly through her illness and then later

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00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: talked about how many CIS men write in to say

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00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: Dan Yelle made them cry. Haha, I got another one. Truly,

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00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 3: thank you so much to both of you. You are

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 3: doing important work that is so appreciated with so much gratitude.

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00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: Lindsey lindsay, I can't tell you how wonderful this email

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00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: is to receive, but particularly now like we are. We're

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00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 3: having a hard week here and it really means a

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00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: lot to remember that we are talking to people like

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Speaker 3: you and that you are part of our crew. And

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00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just it's it's hard for me

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00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: to read nice things about myself. But I am very

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00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: very honored to be in your ears. And I love

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00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: making your boyfriend cry. I love making men cry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to tell you I have a friend

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00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: who listens to the pod. I'm not going to reveal

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00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: this person, but her our boyfriend is a semi famous

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01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: comedian and he was like Danielle has made me cry,

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01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: like Danielle has broken me down. He's kind of a

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01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: tough dude. He's kind of a tough dude. I'm not

1131
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: gonna give him away, but I'm just saying it's kind

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01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: of a tough dude. And I was like, yo, score one.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this is just so fucking nice, and you're right,

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01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 3: like I think it is. It's amazing to me that

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01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 3: we are still at a point where we're realizing how

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01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: important it is to talk about things like representation and

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01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: the media that we consume.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 3: I just feel like this is this is a good reminder.

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01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 3: It's not always easy to remember that people are listening

1141
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: with more of a gentle ear than we often listen

1142
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: to ourselves with or interrogate ourselves with.

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Speaker 2: So thank you, Lindsey. And next time we make your

1144
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: boyfriend cry, take a picture and send it to us.

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01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we would love pictures.

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: Can we start our own wailing wall.

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01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: It'll be like the bar, the toe bar that you

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01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: went to with like your boobs or something. It'll acceptably

1149
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: pictures of people's boyfriends crying. I would open up a

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01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: bar just to have that.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe that the toe bar and the boot

1152
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: bar not the same bar?

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01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:17,959
Speaker 1: Oh shit?

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Speaker 3: Alaska's fucking wild even read that book?

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Speaker 2: What the fuck?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, lindsay, this is such a nice, nice, nice, nice

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01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: thing to hear right now. We really appreciate it. Today

1158
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: was the day to get it, and so so nice

1159
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: that you wrote I love it.

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Speaker 2: This, This is, you know what I'm really appreciating. I

1161
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: like that our.

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Speaker 3: Our bonus episodes have become so unhinged that it's like

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01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 3: cathartic at the end. Like sometimes when we finished talking,

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01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm tired of going to bed. This

1165
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: is like a release this week. So thank you for

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 3: being my friend. Like we already talked on the phone

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01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 3: today for like an hour, but like, thank you for

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01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: just doing this together. Like it's really cool that we

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01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 3: get to just have this fun little release. And I

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01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: will not remember anything I have said. It is out

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Speaker 3: of my brain already.

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Speaker 2: So if I've offended you, then let me out.

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01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: But I feel bad for our producer, Casey, who was like,

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01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: usually like you know, I don't ever ever have to

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: edit these bonuses, and then this one, it's like he's

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01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: gonna be cut. Cut These bitches literally fucking went to

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Speaker 1: another dimension this episode. They and I'm quitting now, can.

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Speaker 2: You truly mention.

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01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: Can you remember anything we mentioned in the intro before

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01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 3: the hour before we read the two letters? Dude, I

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01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 3: don't even know this whole episode was supposed to be letters.

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01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: I know it went from like talking about scream. It

1183
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: was like science fiction, screenplay, ideas, weird hemorrhoids, book advice,

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01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: book advice.

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01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: What the fuck don't forget valves?

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01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: Valves, asshole valves. Letters And it's been over an hour. Listen,

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01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: this is completely off the fucking rails. I personally love it,

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01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: but then again, I have a weird metric for success.

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Speaker 1: If you guys hate it, if you hate it or

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01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: love it, you hate it.

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01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 2: I don't care.

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01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: Listen, email us. That's all you can do. That is

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01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: your power, Just to email us at I saw what

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01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: you did put at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna veto million say if you hate it, don't email.

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01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: Oh yes, you need. We need. We need to get

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Speaker 2: to a point where we don't care what people think

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Speaker 2: as much as we do.

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Speaker 1: That's why we took it Lindsay's email and fucking shut

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: it up. Through in between our toes, We're like, we

1201
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: need that good feedback.

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Speaker 3: I need it in my body. I'm framing it. I

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01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 3: might mail it to myself. I'm gonna print out Lindsay's

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01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: email and mail it to myself. That's how goddamn low

1205
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 3: a day I've had. I'm like, thank you for thinking

1206
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: I'm not an asshole. But yes, you can email us,

1207
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: but I don't care if you don't like the bonus.

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01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't care. This is a very cathartic and fun

1209
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: thing for me and Millie, so just let us have this.

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01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 3: But yes, please find us on our social media at

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01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: I saw pod on Twitter and Instagram, where you can

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Speaker 3: say whatever you want, because that's how the internet works.

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Speaker 1: We will try now to internalize it completely. Listen, Danielle,

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Speaker 1: always a fucking pleasure. Even though this might be like

1215
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: our last episode, this is like where we cracked, finally

1216
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: fucking cracked. This is like when Crispin Glover went on

1217
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: fucking David Letterman and karate kicked him nearly in his

1218
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: fucking face. This is our Crispin Glover karate Kick episode.

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Speaker 2: And folks, we have a title.

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Speaker 3: It came in at the last minute, it came in

1221
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 3: at the bitter end, but the title of this bonus

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01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 3: is Crisp and Glover Karate kicking letterman.

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Speaker 1: That's what it was, and we can't we can't make

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01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,919
Speaker 1: apologies for this is just it's in our blood where

1225
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: it's like in our blood to be this weird.

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01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: So listen, tattoo this on your heart, take it or

1227
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 3: leave it. We love for you to take it, but

1228
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 3: we're okay with you leaving it.

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Speaker 1: And thank you for paying for this.

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01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: Oh God, I forgot they paid for this.

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01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: Oh God, now I feel like it's.

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01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: No. All right, chalk this one up.

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01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: I promise we'll get back to like letters and talking

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Speaker 3: about funny stuff next week.

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Speaker 1: We love you, crank you, Thank you so much for listening. Bye, everyone,

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01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: see you next time.

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Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production, produced and mixed

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Speaker 3: by Casey O'Brien. Our theme song is by Tom bry Fogel,

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 3: artwork by g Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstart Caring,

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01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 3: Kile Gareth and Daniel Kramer. You can follow us on

1241
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: Instagram and Twitter at I Saw Pod, and you can

1242
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 3: email us at I Saw What You Did Pod at

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Speaker 3: gmail