WEBVTT - S1: Ep 6 - Battlefield

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<v Speaker 2>He had this twinkle in his eye. I got the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that he thought he was smarter than everybody. He

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<v Speaker 2>would smile, He smiled into the camera. He would smile

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<v Speaker 2>at witnesses. He tried to smile at Tracy. He tried

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<v Speaker 2>to stare down Kathy in a way. I thought he

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<v Speaker 2>found this was sort of a game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's lead Assistant District Attorney Jeff Brickman talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>demeanor of the defendant. I'm Nancy Glass and this is

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<v Speaker 1>Burden of Guilt, Episode six, Battlefield. Tracy Riquel told the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecution that she had seen some of her mother's testimony

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<v Speaker 1>on television, and since witnesses weren't allowed to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>court proceedings due to sequestration orders, the judge was left

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<v Speaker 1>with no choice but to declare a mistrial. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a heavy blow to the prosecution, and District Attorney j

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Morgan had to decide if it was worth the

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<v Speaker 1>time and money to take the decades old cold case

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<v Speaker 1>to trial once again. Assistant District Attorney LeAnn Mangon.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff and I felt pretty deflated by the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>the mistrial had been declared. When Judge Fuller declared the

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<v Speaker 3>mist trial, he did make that ruling in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that allowed us to make a decision about whether we

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to retry the case.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in the dumps. I mean, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, you look at each other and go,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy killed a four month old.

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<v Speaker 1>District Attorney Jay tom Morgan.

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<v Speaker 4>I was furious.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, all the work that Leanne and Jeff had

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<v Speaker 5>put into it, and so my job as a DiscT

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<v Speaker 5>attorney was to get my two assistants in there and say,

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<v Speaker 5>take a deep breath, let's do this again.

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<v Speaker 3>After all of this had happened, I came into work

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<v Speaker 3>to a voicemail message from Tracy saying please don't give up.

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<v Speaker 6>I basically just called the prosecution and said, look, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't mean to mess everything up. Could you do

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<v Speaker 6>this again.

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<v Speaker 2>After going in and talking about it with Jay Tom

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<v Speaker 2>and looking at each other and realizing, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't change what happen.

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<v Speaker 7>Happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't change the facts. And as I told Leanne,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, last time I checked, there's no such

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<v Speaker 2>thing as the one free murder rule in Georgia. And

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<v Speaker 2>we were back at it within a month, supercharged out.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecution once again set out to prove that Jan

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<v Speaker 1>Berry Sandlin killed four month old Matthew.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't really change the theory of the case at all.

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<v Speaker 1>The theory a man was left alone with a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time the baby's mother came home and found him,

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<v Speaker 1>he was near death. The child was a victim of

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<v Speaker 1>the man's abuse. That man was Tracy Riquel's father, Jan

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Sandlin, a person with a history of cruel and

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<v Speaker 1>abusive behavior towards his children. And as we told you,

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy Riquel has spent a lifetime dealing with the abuse

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<v Speaker 1>she suffered at the hands of her father.

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<v Speaker 6>He would just show up in milanit row us on

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<v Speaker 6>the street. We spent lots of time just sleeping on

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<v Speaker 6>a park bench. He put that camel cigarette off on me.

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<v Speaker 6>I was in the car with Kathy and she said,

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<v Speaker 6>day after tomorrow is Matthew's birthday, and I just had

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<v Speaker 6>this child like remark of you don't take me to

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<v Speaker 6>the cemetery of nervousbetian, she told Jan, and he beat

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<v Speaker 6>me terribly. He really enjoyed the belt, the wrong end

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<v Speaker 6>of the belt.

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<v Speaker 1>We shared how he fed her roaches on toast as

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<v Speaker 1>a form of punishment, and how Tracy Raquel spent much

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<v Speaker 1>of her childhood navigating the emotional and physical abuse between

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy and Jan. We told you how he beat Kathy

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<v Speaker 1>and locked her in closets. For Tracy Raquel, those memories

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<v Speaker 1>were like a bad dream.

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<v Speaker 6>Nightmares are an ongoing thing for me. I never have

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<v Speaker 6>nightmares about Matthew. I have a lot of nightmares that

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<v Speaker 6>revolve around events in my childhood and just always being

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<v Speaker 6>terrified and never feeling safe, and that comes from not

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<v Speaker 6>being stable and getting thrown out of your house in

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<v Speaker 6>the middle of the night, and people getting beat up

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<v Speaker 6>and abuse, like all of these things don't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Lead Ada Jeff Brickman imagined how the series of events

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<v Speaker 1>unfolded between Jan and the baby who was not his son.

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<v Speaker 2>Leanne and I were recent parents of two year old

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<v Speaker 2>We had learned in the last couple of years what

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<v Speaker 2>it's like to have a baby at home who can't speak,

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<v Speaker 2>who cries a lot. They're crying, You're upset, they won't

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<v Speaker 2>shut up. You want to sleep. You're not real jazzed

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<v Speaker 2>up about the fact that you're being left at home

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<v Speaker 2>with this four month old is not even yours, and

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<v Speaker 2>you just wanted to be quiet. Just like that, You'll

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<v Speaker 2>get your quiet. You'll be dead, but you'll get the quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>So we knew that one of the things we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to impress upon the jury was that this can happen

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<v Speaker 2>just like that. And he had every reason to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and given the nature of the injuries, he decided just

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<v Speaker 2>like that that he was going to shut him up.

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<v Speaker 2>And as horrific as that is to imagine, that's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Brickman knew if the prosecution was going to win

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<v Speaker 1>this trial, the jury had to believe that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the defense, they learned something from the first

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<v Speaker 1>trial and this time honed in on a single strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>This time, the defense was none too subtle, and we knew, Karen,

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<v Speaker 2>it was not going to be a well just can't

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<v Speaker 2>prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. It was one person

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<v Speaker 2>did it. It was Kathy Almon.

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<v Speaker 3>There was more of a focus on Kathy Allman as

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<v Speaker 3>someone who may have had something to do with Matthew's murder.

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<v Speaker 2>I distinctly remember talking to Kathy, going, let me tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what the defense is. You killed your four month old.

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<v Speaker 2>You get it. Now, it's up to you. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>get up and testify. You need to be convincing.

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<v Speaker 1>Adyajff Brickman was saying Kathy could make her break this

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<v Speaker 1>second trial, and he was worried about her state of

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<v Speaker 1>mind and her lack of self assurance on the stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Kathy was kind of damaged over the years, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was very vulnerable. She was easy to pick on, and

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<v Speaker 2>karenn was great at finding weaknesses.

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<v Speaker 3>They were introducing a suggestion that perhaps there's not enough

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<v Speaker 3>evidence to demonstrate that Jan Sanmlin was solely responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>On day one of the t Tracy Roquel was the

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<v Speaker 1>second witness to be called. Assistant District Attorney Lee and

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<v Speaker 1>man Gone asked Tracy Raquel about the time she contacted

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<v Speaker 1>her father in prison.

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<v Speaker 8>When you were younger, did you make a telephone call

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<v Speaker 8>to the defendant yes I did. Did you ask him

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<v Speaker 8>for an explanation for Matt's death? Yes, I did, And

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<v Speaker 8>in that telephone call, what was his response, asked your mother.

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<v Speaker 1>She couldn't get a straight answer from Jan and her mother,

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy wouldn't provide any clarity either.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you and miss Rain have any information which would

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<v Speaker 8>indicate that your mother is responsible for Matt's death?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 8>Can you tell the members of the jury why it

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<v Speaker 8>is you have worked so hard to find out what

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<v Speaker 8>happened to that? Well?

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<v Speaker 7>I always knew that he had died, and it was

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<v Speaker 7>always a very if subject with everyone in my family,

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<v Speaker 7>and I guess that just sparked me to think that

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<v Speaker 7>something was wrong, and I thought if there was something wrong,

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<v Speaker 7>you needed to fix it.

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<v Speaker 4>I had no idea of it.

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<v Speaker 5>It was because they thought that I had love.

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<v Speaker 1>That was obviously very emotional for Tracy Riquel. She regained

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<v Speaker 1>her composure and lee Anne continued her questioning. She asked

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy Roquel what happened when she asked her mother to

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<v Speaker 1>have Matt's death investigated.

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<v Speaker 8>What generally was your mother's response when you were talking

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<v Speaker 8>about that issue.

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<v Speaker 7>That she didn't want to deal with the pain. She

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<v Speaker 7>was not capable of dealing with the pain, she didn't

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<v Speaker 7>have the support that she needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy Almand's mother, Tracy Riquel's grandmother, Anne Davidson, took the stand.

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<v Speaker 1>She testified about an incident that occurred when she came

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<v Speaker 1>home with Kathy after Jan was alone with baby Matthew.

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<v Speaker 9>Were you when and matt was screaming? And Kathy said,

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<v Speaker 9>what's wrong with the baby? And he said, oh, I

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<v Speaker 9>was playing with him here on the table and he

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<v Speaker 9>picked up the pepper shaker and I guess he got

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<v Speaker 9>it in his eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>Could you tell what the appearance was at this chart?

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<v Speaker 9>Bob was crying, his eyes were red. What did Kathy do?

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<v Speaker 9>If anything?

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<v Speaker 7>She took the.

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<v Speaker 9>Baby and she got a washcloth and washed his eyes out,

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<v Speaker 9>gave him a bottle, and pretty soon he stopped crying.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there any further discussion that day as far as

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<v Speaker 2>you remember about what happened?

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<v Speaker 9>No, never was mentioned again.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the questioning turned to the night Matthew died.

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<v Speaker 2>At any point once you got to the hospital, did

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<v Speaker 2>you make any effort or attempt to talk.

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<v Speaker 9>To kat Yes, I did. I just went straight to

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<v Speaker 9>her and said, Katy, what happened? And Jan just came

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<v Speaker 9>forward and said that Tracy threw little Matt from the

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<v Speaker 9>crib and he was hurt real bad, and that's why

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<v Speaker 9>they were there.

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<v Speaker 4>Eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Brickman asked Kathy's mother, Anne Davidson, those questions to

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<v Speaker 1>establish a history of abuse by jam. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>defense attorney Kren Malls seemed to say, if the pepper

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<v Speaker 1>incident was so bad, if there was abuse, why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>anyone call the police, Miss Davidson?

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<v Speaker 4>What was the name of the police officer you spoke

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<v Speaker 4>to being told about this pepper incident after Matt died.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't speak you didn't You didn't happen to say, God,

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<v Speaker 4>this land not only has he killed my child, Let

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<v Speaker 4>me tell you about the pepper incident. No, didn't say

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<v Speaker 4>that to anybody?

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<v Speaker 7>Did you?

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<v Speaker 4>First time you ever mentioned it is July nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 4>seven to these folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Defense attorney Krin Mall pointed out that Kathy's mother didn't

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<v Speaker 1>share that information with anybody until the second trial.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you hear a singales soul besides your daughter, say

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<v Speaker 4>Jane Mary Sandwin told them that this child was thrown

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<v Speaker 4>out of the bed by his sister.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I didn't, okay, And your daughter.

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<v Speaker 4>Also said she didn't know if he did or not,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't she That's right, neither do I.

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<v Speaker 1>Corin Mal had spent hours questioning Kathy during the first trial,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had no plans to ease up in the second.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, she would press Kathy even harder about inconsistencies.

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<v Speaker 4>You have told her, and you have told us that

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<v Speaker 4>besides your initial different stories that you told her the

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<v Speaker 4>Krim dead, banging the head on the throwing out, crushing

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<v Speaker 4>the baby shoes, besides those different stories, you have always

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<v Speaker 4>you said, maintain what happened that day to everyone having you,

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<v Speaker 4>and you maintained to everyone that you believed she'd thrown

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<v Speaker 4>the baby out of the bed. That's what I thought

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<v Speaker 4>for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense wanted to make the point that even while

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<v Speaker 1>jan was out of their lives and in prison, Kathy

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<v Speaker 1>continued to communicate with him. It seemed like she still

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<v Speaker 1>wanted them to have a relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>It was almend you wrote a letter to your ex husband. Correctly,

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<v Speaker 4>you've written to them, yes, and you wrote to him

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<v Speaker 4>about Tracy making accusations.

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<v Speaker 10>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really recall what I wrote in those letters.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't it truth in this Almond that you told in

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<v Speaker 4>your letters, don't worry about Tracy. You know my parents,

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<v Speaker 4>they've just been saying some ugly things about you.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't recall what was in those letters, so I

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<v Speaker 7>can't say I was very depressed when I wrote him.

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<v Speaker 9>I know that.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought something's wrong with me. I don't know in

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<v Speaker 4>those letters. In the last letter that you wrote to

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<v Speaker 4>mister Sandlin, do you recall telling him in there not

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<v Speaker 4>to be concerned about Tracy because she just resented him

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<v Speaker 4>not being there, I have I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>In another letter, Kathy had expressed frustration about Tracy Raquel's

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<v Speaker 1>younger brother, Jason. He was the second child Kathy had

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<v Speaker 1>with jan Didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>You tell Jason that you told mister Sandlin he's bothering me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to beat him with a baseball.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't recall that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's what she wrote, that she was going to

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<v Speaker 1>beat her son with a baseball bat.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me show you something and see if that refreshes

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<v Speaker 4>nor recollection.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I did say it in a joking way.

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<v Speaker 4>And you did say in a joking way, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to beat him with a baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the prosecution came back one last time with Kathy

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<v Speaker 1>to put the focus back on Matthew's death.

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<v Speaker 11>And on that day when you did leave matt for

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<v Speaker 11>the second time with that man over, there was this

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<v Speaker 11>child who was depicted in States five just two days

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<v Speaker 11>before his death. In this picture.

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<v Speaker 4>Was he healthy?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, he was healthy.

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<v Speaker 11>Was he as alive as could be, live as could.

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<v Speaker 4>Be, happy as could be in a very good, wonderful baby.

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<v Speaker 1>When the prosecution finished, the defense left the jury with this, isn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It truth that the accident, and he was an accident,

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<v Speaker 4>was caused by hums Ho.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there was no more suggesting or circling around it.

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<v Speaker 12>There.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the defense put on the line. It was

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<v Speaker 1>your fault, Kathy. The defense never called a single witness,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jan never took the stand. Jeff Brickman remembers observing

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<v Speaker 1>Jan's behavior as he watched the testimony.

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<v Speaker 2>He had this twinkle in his eye. I got the

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<v Speaker 2>sense that he thought he was smarter than everybody. He

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<v Speaker 2>would smile, he smiled into the camera. He would smile

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<v Speaker 2>at witnesses. He tried to smile at Tracy. He tried

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<v Speaker 2>to stare down Kathy. He would stare back at us.

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<v Speaker 2>And he just kind of stared through you.

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<v Speaker 9>In a way.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he found this was sort of a game.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do think he found pleasure in making everybody

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<v Speaker 2>who came in there to testify against him.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the last person to testify was the medical examiner

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<v Speaker 1>who performed the second autopsy, doctor Burton. The prosecution strategically

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<v Speaker 1>saved him for the end. He was their key witness.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecution's case was straightforward. Matthew's death was from unspeakable abuse.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you have an opinion, doctor Burdon, as to whether

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<v Speaker 8>these injuries could have been inflicted by a two year

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<v Speaker 8>old child throwing the baby out of a crip?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, first of all, a two year old child couldn't

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<v Speaker 12>throw the baby out. It's a squirming ten pound weight,

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<v Speaker 12>and so to throw it out would be virtually impossible.

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<v Speaker 12>To say that a two year old could get in

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<v Speaker 12>the bed and somehow tug it up over the edge

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<v Speaker 12>of the rail and let the baby tip over the

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<v Speaker 12>edge of the rail and fall. It's possible, but even

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<v Speaker 12>that is not likely.

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<v Speaker 1>In the last episode, you heard, defense attorney carin Mal

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<v Speaker 1>questioned Kathy about Tracy Riquel's heavy baby shoes because Kathy

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<v Speaker 1>had said she thought Tracy Riquel had stepped on Matthew's

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<v Speaker 1>head with her heavy baby shoes and that led to

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<v Speaker 1>his death. A Leean Mangune showed doctor Burton a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of those shoes.

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<v Speaker 12>These shoes have leather soles and rubber hills on them.

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<v Speaker 12>The soles and hills have edges on them. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 12>in any of the records to describe any type of

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<v Speaker 12>a pattern of bruise or abrasion to Matthew's head. This

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<v Speaker 12>tells us that the impact happened on a surface smooth,

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<v Speaker 12>but no proturberances on it. There's not enough mass in

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<v Speaker 12>the foot and leg of a two year old to

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<v Speaker 12>cause fractures on both sides of this baby's head to

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<v Speaker 12>compress the head against the floor. It would be almost

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<v Speaker 12>impossible for all the circumstances to exist for a shoe

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<v Speaker 12>not to leave a mark on Matthew's head.

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<v Speaker 1>Further emphasizing it was no accident, the prosecution asked how

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<v Speaker 1>a child would sustain the injuries found on Matthew, so.

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<v Speaker 8>That the jury better understands the force which must have

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<v Speaker 8>been used in this case. Under what non abusive circumstances

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<v Speaker 8>would you expect to see these types.

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<v Speaker 12>Of injuries fractures like this that are bilateral complex fractures.

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<v Speaker 12>You see an automobile wrecks, you see them, and children

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<v Speaker 12>are people who fall heights like fifteen twenty feet.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you, doctor Burton, have an opinion based on a

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<v Speaker 8>reasonable degree of medical certainty as to the manner of

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<v Speaker 8>death of Matthew Stephen Golder on December the twenty seventh

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<v Speaker 8>of nineteen seventy one.

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<v Speaker 12>I do the injuries that resulted in Matthew's death were

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<v Speaker 12>inflicted or caused by another person?

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<v Speaker 1>Carin Mal did not mince words during the cross examination.

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<v Speaker 4>The scenario that you were given was mainly to disprove

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<v Speaker 4>that this child had not been thrown out by a

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<v Speaker 4>two year old onto the floor from a bed from

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<v Speaker 4>a crib. Correct.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, I was trying to decide whether this was an

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<v Speaker 12>accidental death or some other type of death.

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<v Speaker 4>And it is true, doctor Burton, that this injury could

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<v Speaker 4>have been inflicted several different ways, and you have shown

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<v Speaker 4>some of them, correct.

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<v Speaker 12>And there may be others.

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<v Speaker 4>But bottom line is that this child is not thrown

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<v Speaker 4>out of a bed by a two year old. This

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<v Speaker 4>child died as a result of abuse from an adult. Correct.

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<v Speaker 12>I think that's the probability, Yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>So which adult was it? Would the jury believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was Jan or did the defense raise enough doubt by

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<v Speaker 1>presenting Kathy as a culprit Ada Lee and Mangon went

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<v Speaker 1>first in closing arguments.

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<v Speaker 8>Ladies and gentlemen, this is a case about murder. This

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<v Speaker 8>is a case about the murder of a four month

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<v Speaker 8>old little boy, about the murder of a child who

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<v Speaker 8>lived on this earth for less than twenty weeks. This

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<v Speaker 8>is the case about a murder which could have been

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<v Speaker 8>committed by only one person, and that person is sitting

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<v Speaker 8>right there. Jan Berry Sandlin is guilty of murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Leanne held up a photo of Matthew.

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<v Speaker 8>Matt Golder is speaking to you, ladies and gentlemen. He's saying,

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<v Speaker 8>my name is Matthew Stephen Golder. I died when I

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<v Speaker 8>was four months old. I was robbed of my opportunity

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<v Speaker 8>to run, to jump, to laugh. My innocence was taken

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<v Speaker 8>from me. It was taken from me by that man.

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<v Speaker 8>Ladies and gentlemen. Matt Golder is crying out to you

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<v Speaker 8>today as he must have cried in December of nineteen

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<v Speaker 8>seventy one. But today he's crying very differently. He's crying

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<v Speaker 8>for justice, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 10>He is asking that you send the loudest and clearest

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<v Speaker 10>message that you can. He wants you to tell this

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<v Speaker 10>man what you did was wrong, what you did was murderers.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Defense attorney Carin Maul gave her summation.

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<v Speaker 4>While it is true that there's nothing worse than the

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<v Speaker 4>death of a child, and those of us who have

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<v Speaker 4>suffered it know how poignant that is and know how

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<v Speaker 4>debilitating that is. But second to that is to convict an.

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<v Speaker 1>Innocent, Carin Maul then focused on Kathy's strange behavior, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>towards Tracy Riquel. Kathy told the same story over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again, even to Tracy Raquel's doctor when she was

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<v Speaker 1>just a teenager.

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<v Speaker 4>You're giving information to your child's doctor that you so

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<v Speaker 4>badly wanted. You don't lie to that doctor. You tell

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<v Speaker 4>them everything. You especially would not tell your child's doctor

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<v Speaker 4>that your child had thrown the baby out of the

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<v Speaker 4>bed when any fool could have seen that didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 4>and you certainly wouldn't blame it on a child. From

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty two to nineteen ninety seven, when your child

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<v Speaker 4>is in your face, telling you, how could you do

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<v Speaker 4>this to me? January nineteen ninety seven. What does miss

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<v Speaker 4>Almond do? She brings the baby shoes, still trying to

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<v Speaker 4>blame Tracy Ray. She knows what happened. She's the only

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<v Speaker 4>one that knows what happened. Miss Almond is responsible not

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<v Speaker 4>for killing her child, but for the death of her job.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no more to say. Arguments were finished, the

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<v Speaker 1>trial concluded, and now the waiting began.

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<v Speaker 3>I always knew that it was up to those twelve citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>We slept with a jury out. We went home one

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<v Speaker 3>night and came back the next morning. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>them deliberating a long time, but I remember the call

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<v Speaker 3>that we got being that there was a verdict.

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<v Speaker 4>We the jury found the defendant Jan Barrysilin.

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<v Speaker 1>This case takes yet another turn, and it was a shocker.

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<v Speaker 2>My stomach dropped.

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