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Speaker 3: Now onto the drama.

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Speaker 4: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 1: We all about that high school drama. Girl drama girl,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drama Queens. Oh boy, well listen.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a perfect example of why we

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. There was Yeah, there was a lot.

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Speaker 3: There's so many things he could have said to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, instead he said, he said, I wasn't into her.

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Speaker 2: Like we said, there's no rules this episode. We can

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Speaker 2: For me, if I deflect from anything emotional with like

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Speaker 2: I don't do feelings well, and thankfully Peyton has zero

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Speaker 2: So I always look back on these episodes just like, yeah,

438
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: I must had a lot of fun that week.

439
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: Was it fun to nice to just have a break

440
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: from all the Lucas drama to be able to be

441
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: in working women mode? Yeah?

442
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: And I think it was so much more realistic to

443
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 2: where we were in real life. You know, like at

444
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 2: that point we had we were all in relationships, but

445
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: like we were also all hustling. We were all really

446
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 2: focused on like work, what are we going to do next?

447
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: What are we going to do on hiatus? How do

448
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: I make this work? In season five, you know, we

449
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 2: signed six year contracts and so you're starting to see

450
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: the light at the end of the tunnel, and it's

451
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: like it's like, oh, I've got to line myself up

452
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: so that i have a place to go after this.

453
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: So I did feel a lot of that frantic energy

454
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 2: of like, oh, make it count, make it count, make

455
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: it count. And I, you know, was starting a production company,

456
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 2: and it's fun to watch like a kid think that

457
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: they're doing grown up business talk, you know, and you're

458
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: just like, oh, that's so earnest. I wonder how many

459
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: people I had production meetings with for my production company

460
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: that were just like, she's.

461
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: Trying so durable, she's learning. I don't think that was

462
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: ever the case. You were always you always had great

463
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: vision and really like knew what you wanted. I mean,

464
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: I always took you seriously when you were talking well actually.

465
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if anybody wasn't taken as seriously, they wouldn't

466
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: say it to our face. They'd wait till we left

467
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: the room. No, And I love the Kate is like

468
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: getting to do more. Yeah, she's getting to be really

469
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: I forgot that it was a payton mea setup with John.

470
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: I totally forgot that too. That was great.

471
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just really like, really, this chick's gonna

472
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: go off and pout like what Peyton.

473
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: Can't get a break?

474
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: This is crazy.

475
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, she sold it. She was fantastic.

476
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: And I like how much time I was getting to

477
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 2: spend with her because I do know, you know, in

478
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: all these years since that she had been warned to

479
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: stay away from me and oh right, yeah, but all

480
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: of our scenes are together and we're clearly having a

481
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: great time, and so I'm excited to have Kate on

482
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: at some point and get her perspective because she was

483
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: like a little kid.

484
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: I was just thinking that, like, what a strange time

485
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: to be. I mean, can you imagine being that young?

486
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: I think she was she was nineteen or twenty. She

487
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: was nineteen. She was still a teenager.

488
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: Man.

489
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: Here, let's get we want to put you on a

490
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: major TV show. You're going to be with all these

491
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: chicks who are older than you. Watch out for some

492
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: of them. It gets treacherous there. And she's an't even

493
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: a famous singer that like, she was just trying to

494
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: She wasn't an actress. She was a singer. Who was

495
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: I mean, what a bizarre thing to have happened to

496
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: you at nineteen years old to be out singing and

497
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: have somebody be like you want to be on a

498
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: TV show and go uh uh huh yeah sure. And

499
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: now it's full storylines and she's learning how to act

500
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: from some of the best and abyss just hanging out

501
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: with Hillary Burton on set and just like watching everything happen.

502
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and she's on this huge show and she

503
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: gets to sing on the show and it's all the

504
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: storyline created about her. That's she handled it amazing. She did,

505
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: and she learned. She came in with so much humility

506
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: and excitement and just wanted to learn. It was great.

507
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: Yes, she never had any ego like I have to imagine, well,

508
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: having worked at MTV and dealing with like young musicians

509
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 2: like there are a le Hill who shall remain nameless,

510
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: who you know, I don't like who had such an

511
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 2: ego as armor, And Kate Vogel never had Batman.

512
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: She was just always like, Hey, cool, do you guys

513
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: like tea? You want to go make tea together at

514
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: craft service? And also these are good chocolates and like,

515
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, like she was just so easy to be with. Yeah,

516
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: it's so fun to see something to hang out with

517
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: somebody who has wonder, especially.

518
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: For oh that's the perfect word for her.

519
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, because especially when you've been working in this business

520
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: for so long, or any business where you it's become

521
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: a business for you in a lot of ways, and

522
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: you know kind of you know too much in the

523
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: ins and outs to be around someone who really just

524
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: has wonder about it, it's exciting. Its me. It reminds

525
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: me why I fell in love with all of this

526
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: in the first place. When you get to be around

527
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: somebody who's experiencing it for the first time.

528
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was our Bambi, Like she had the little

529
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 2: baby deer legs at the beginning when she first started

530
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: and was a little nervous with those big eyes and

531
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: just like, oh cool, neat so great.

532
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: Well. I loved that storyline. I loved the setup, even

533
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: though it really was a strange in this episode, Like

534
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: it didn't it just didn't fit. It didn't fit at all.

535
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: It's because we shot all our stuff in one day

536
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: and we weren't interacting with anyone else, so we had

537
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: no idea what the tone of the whole rest of

538
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: the episode was. And also, like, in what world does

539
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: Haley not get on the phone that night and call

540
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: all the chicks that she was just locked in the.

541
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: Library with one hundred percent?

542
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: These writers had no idea what girlfriends are like, Like,

543
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you just had the biggest blow

544
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: up ever, Hailey is gonna get on speed Dowal and

545
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: be like, get over here, bring the rose.

546
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: The only thing I could think of, maybe why Haley

547
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't do that, is that she she does has spent

548
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: a lot of time trying to trying to I don't

549
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: know that building up an image is the right word.

550
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: But she I think she really constantly feels like she's

551
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: in a place of mothering everyone and sort of taking

552
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: care of and giving advice and telling you know, it's

553
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: like it's it's a character flaw. And so to be

554
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: the person in the position where everything's falling apart, it's

555
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: not working the way she thought it would it's all

556
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: and to have to admit like, actually I don't have

557
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: it all together that might have been really really hard

558
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: for her. That might have felt like a lot of

559
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: shame or something.

560
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it's embarrassing.

561
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: It is embarrassing. But these are your best girlfriends or

562
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: call Lucas like that. If that's not a breaking point,

563
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: what is, right? Like, that's the breaking point where were

564
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,719
Speaker 1: like I can't, I can't handle it.

565
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: We're called child is asleep in that house. The child

566
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: heard you yell get the guy out that too.

567
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, the kid doesn't get up? Yeah,

568
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: oh Jamie totally saw her like naked run across the house. Totally,

569
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: There's no way he didn't. Everyone in that house.

570
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: Has seen Nanny Carey naked.

571
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah.

572
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about Nanny carey going to visit

573
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: the school the next day, because.

574
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: What school allows. First of all, where was he going

575
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: with his backpack and his jacket that somebody just did?

576
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: I just drop him off? And then he just walks

577
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: into this huge campus with no not how it worked, teacher, no, no,

578
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: yeah no. And then this strange woman just gets to

579
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: approach a kid near near a parking lot. That was

580
00:29:59,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: all real.

581
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you have I mean I guess maybe

582
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: if she was on the emergency contact form because she

583
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: had been dropping him off for the last month.

584
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: But how much time has gone by.

585
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: It's still like, you know, school just started, Haley just

586
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: had her first day the basketball team just I none

587
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: of this makes sense. This is one of those episodes

588
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: where I'm gonna get crazy about the details because even

589
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: the big stuff doesn't make sense.

590
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: But that's the first thing I would do, probably is

591
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: called the school the next morning and take her off

592
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: the emergency contact list.

593
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: I would call maybe a restraining order.

594
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.

595
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: Would word every little legal angle I could to make

596
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: sure that chick vanished.

597
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: That is my worst It's not my worst nightmare, but

598
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: it's a pie up on the list of having your

599
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: kid emotionally taken advantage of at that young age.

600
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: You know.

601
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: Can you imagine when you think about, like your kid's

602
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: that young if somebody was somebody who was in your

603
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: home was just like insidiously trying to pit.

604
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: Them against you.

605
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Don't cut you. Oh yeah no.

606
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't like when like grown ups talk to kids

607
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: like confidants. That's a weird flex. If you don't have

608
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: friends to talk to, you've got the internet, just get

609
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: on a chat room or some weird but like, don't

610
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 2: dump your stuff on kids. And Carrie being like, your

611
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: mommy doesn't like me, He's sending me away.

612
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm real picky about who my kids talk to. Yeah, yeah,

613
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: me too. That's that's really scary. And she's, man, this

614
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: is why you have to vet the people that you

615
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: put around your kids.

616
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: Girl. Can I just tell you that my husband made

617
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: so much fun of me because anytime I would hire

618
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: someone to do work at any house we've ever lived at,

619
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: he would joke and he's like, Oh, you're gonna go

620
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: full burten, aren't you. And I would vet the out

621
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: of people on the internet, and I would know where

622
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: they went to middle school, high school, who their friends are,

623
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: how many times have been divorced, you know, like I

624
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: know everything before i'd the men. And so when we

625
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: first moved here to the farm, I needed to get

626
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: the house painted because I was peeling and stuff, and

627
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: he was teasing me about it, and I was like,

628
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: you know what, Okay, fine, I won't vet the person

629
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: this time and we'll see how it goes, right, And

630
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: so I felt like I was finally like relinquishing some.

631
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: Paranoia time out. Did you hire the person or did

632
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: Jeff hire the person?

633
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: Oh? I hired the person, And it was just.

634
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Based on you went on your gut or you just

635
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: you made a random call. Did you meet the person?

636
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: I interviewed three different people.

637
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Okay, and so you just like went on a gut instinct.

638
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: And this one showed up dressed professionally, had like a portfolio,

639
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: had a really like business quote. And what I have

640
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: learned since my late twenties is that your trade guys

641
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: shouldn't be like they should be a nightmare. The inside

642
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: of their truck should be a mess, like they should

643
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: just be like a total disaster, because they'll do the

644
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: best work. This guy, this guy was like so official,

645
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: and so then like weird things started happening, and like

646
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: the job was taking three times as long as it

647
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: should have and like, yeah, people weren't showing up. Turned

648
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: out he was just painting the entire property by himself

649
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 2: and like nothing was adding up. And then I was

650
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: in like the old ramshackle farmhouse that was originally on

651
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: the property here and I hear a buzzing in a

652
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: drawer down there, and I find a random cell phone

653
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what is this? No one's supposed to

654
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: be inside this house, Like why is there a phone

655
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: in here? And I am holding on to it and

656
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: then like I I don't know who it belongs to,

657
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: but I'm super creeped out and it's it's his phone,

658
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: and I'm like it's one thing if it's in the house,

659
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: but like why is it in this drawer?

660
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: And like what's going on? It was so weird, kind

661
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: of like an abandoned house because it's yeah, worked one, okay.

662
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had been going down there by myself, just

663
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: like doing renovations and time and stuff. Yeah, And I

664
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: went and I looked him up and he had been

665
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: arrested for embezzling at like a different company, and I

666
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: think he did some prison time like it was like,

667
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: but it was the one time, the one time I

668
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: didn't do my homework. So women out there, especially women

669
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: out there, do not feel guilty about about checking everyone out.

670
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: Just go ahead and sign up for one of those

671
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: websites that allows you to do background checks on people.

672
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: It is worth yes, and ask ask invasive questions that

673
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: are I mean professionally appropriate, but like, go ahead, yeah,

674
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: have you ever been arrested?

675
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be the first question you ask everyone,

676
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: whether you're dating or you're working to get you'm arrested.

677
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: Hillary, I came home once and found out I hired

678
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: a housekeeper on care dot com, and I did you know.

679
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: I did.

680
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: I did a little research. But I also was like

681
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: kind of overwhelmed. I was like I was Haley when

682
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: she was overwhelmed. And there were a few little there

683
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: were a few little things leading up like she like,

684
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: I was just kind of scared to talk about this,

685
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: yeah right now, but like she she was she started

686
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: following me on Instagram and then like like texting me

687
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: comments about my Instagram posts. And I was a little like, okay,

688
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: I mean if it was a little boundary, but I mean,

689
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: you know whatever, But she was the thing was she

690
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: was about sixty, so it wasn't like a young girl

691
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: who wasn't I thought, Oh, I don't know, maybe she's

692
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: bored whatever. And then there were a couple other little

693
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: things that were red flags and I wasn't sure. And

694
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: then I came home one day and she's cleaning the

695
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: house wearing my shoes. What what?

696
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: Wait?

697
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: Did she take her shoes off and put your shoes on?

698
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: She did? Indeed, Like what kind of shoes? Are we talking?

699
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: Like crocs or heels or like what I want every detail?

700
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: No, she was hot and so took her sneakers off

701
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: and put on my sandals and she'd gone in my

702
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: closet and just like took out my flip flops and

703
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: was wearing them. And it was like, Oh, you don't mind.

704
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: I was just hot, and so you I do I do?

705
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: I do mind? I do mind you putting my shoes on.

706
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: Because oh boy, I look at everything like an iceberg,

707
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: Like that's just.

708
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: What you could see. This is what I'm saying, Yeah,

709
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: we don't know what was under the surface, like what

710
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: she was doing when you were gone, right, That's what

711
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: freaks me out. But anyway, there's there's just you just

712
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: never know, and you gotta you gotta vet people, and

713
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: clearly Nanny Carey was not vetted. You know what.

714
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: That's why Hayley didn't call her girlfriends because we all said, yes,

715
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 2: Hick is no bueno. You would have called Lindsay, though

716
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: Lindsay would Lindsay had her like sat across from her

717
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 2: at dinner.

718
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: I would have called Lindsay or Lucas. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

719
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: But it's also I don't know, Oh, I guess if

720
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: you're again, like if she's trying to hold everything together

721
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: and she's trying to be do everything right, to admit

722
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: that she's not probably would be hard. But anyway, I'm

723
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: excited to see where this goes because I remember how

724
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: crazy this storyline gets, and it's we're in the we're

725
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: on the route to some real intense drama. But nothing

726
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: in this episode was besides Jamie drowning was as intense

727
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: as finding rachel In Brooks a hotel room in New

728
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: York on Heroin and right, it was such a weird

729
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like even before that, it just took such

730
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: a weird turn because we were going from sort of

731
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: this like frustration but also a little bit of any

732
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: comedy with you and Kate into Brooke and Owen. It's

733
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: like cute, flirty, kind of fun. Then they go into

734
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: her apartment in New York and it's all like cute

735
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: and fun. But as soon as they opened the door,

736
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: then this like horror movie music starts all of a sudden,

737
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and it's and what's hilarious is that

738
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: the horror movies music starts when the camera pans to

739
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: all the dirty dishes, right, who was here? It was

740
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: like Goldilocks man, Yeah, like dirty dishes.

741
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 5: Oh god, I thought it was gonna be Victoria in

742
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 5: her apartment.

743
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: I told her. I thought.

744
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: I thought she was going to open the door and

745
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: like Victoria would be having sex with someone or like

746
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: just like.

747
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: You push me aside and now I'm a mess. Yeah

748
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: for sure. But then we ended up seeing I mean,

749
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: I was really, actually, really happy to see Daniel, even

750
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: though I didn't like seeing her like that, but it

751
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: was nice to see her back on the show for

752
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: a minute. I couldn't wait for the rest of the

753
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: episode just to watch your work, which was beautiful. Yeah. Yeah,

754
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: that's the thing.

755
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: It's like Daniel was unafraid to just be messy and

756
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 2: I think that there had been this expectation of who

757
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: Rachel was, like Rachel's always going to be the put together,

758
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: pressy betch you know. And Daniel, they threw her this curveball,

759
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 2: and it, you know, does feel punishing in a way

760
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: of like you're the mess. And she did such a

761
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: great job. She just leaned into like the performance. She

762
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: was like, you can't have that power for me. Sure

763
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: you want to give me a storyline, I'm gonna show up.

764
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: Even if it felt like there was some an I

765
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: hate when my vocabulary words disappear, even if there was

766
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: some motive that wasn't pure in that, she just took

767
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: the power right back and was like, I got this.

768
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Let me take care of this storyline.

769
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: Because her beauty had been powerful, right and had been

770
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: powerful in front of the camera and behind the camera,

771
00:39:54,120 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: and she had removed herself from the situation ye taking

772
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: her power with her and so when she's brought back

773
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: and she's stripped of that thing, she just shows up with.

774
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: A whole other set of tools. She's like, watch this, bitches,

775
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: I love her. It was so good. She looked and

776
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: she really felt like a little girl. I felt like

777
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: I was watching she looked just like her daughter. She

778
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: looked just like jjes. Yes, yeah, no makeup, totally unashamed,

779
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: totally leaning into the the raw vulnerability of it, not performing,

780
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: not trying to perform as a person who was struggling.

781
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: She just just sat in it. Man, Yeah, that was

782
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: such a good performance. Well.

783
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: Also, the thing that struck me is that I have

784
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: had to deal with addiction issues with people that I

785
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: love in the past, right, and like getting them to

786
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: rehab is super important. And when Owen like sets up

787
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: the rehab situation, the first thing I'm thinking is like,

788
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: how are they going to get to bed? You know,

789
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: like there's no room and facilities. How's Brooke just going

790
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: to take her somewhere on day one? And as I'm

791
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: sitting there and I'm like, well, they have to get

792
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 2: they have to take her, they have to take her.

793
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: Danille's performance convinced me don't leave me alone.

794
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

795
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: It's like I can see how Brooke knows what the

796
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: right thing to do. It's the right thing is to

797
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: take her to rehab. Like heroin is not a thing

798
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: that you get over at home, that's right, not a

799
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: home project. But because Rachel is so vulnerable and so raw.

800
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: Like you said, when she says, don't leave me alone,

801
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: that's the scarier thing that. I mean, that's scarier than

802
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: the drug is being left alone.

803
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, does she I hope she does end up.

804
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: I think she does take her to rehab, but maybe

805
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: it's Intrey Hill or some maybe she takes her some

806
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: plays more local where she can be near her. I

807
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: can't remember. I just and also Heroin, like needles.

808
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: Come on now, So intense pills were a thing back

809
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: everybody's addicted to pills, you know what I mean, Like

810
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 2: that could have been a cleaner thing.

811
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: They went down the darkest road they possibly could. And

812
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: then also like Owen's showing up and that it was

813
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: like are we in a cop drama right now? Are we?

814
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't don't understand what show I'm watching. He did great.

815
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe really showed up and leaned into the

816
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: hero of it all. I'm going to save the day

817
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: and you know, pretending to be a junkie and all

818
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: of it. Like I get conceptually why it was made sense.

819
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: In maybe the writer's room they are like, oh, let's

820
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: do this, but let's go I just didn't love the execution.

821
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Well, no, we had already tackled serious stuff with like

822
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: the school shooting episode, and yeah, it's a lot we've

823
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: done serious subject about her on the show, and this

824
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 2: felt like one of those serious things where they really

825
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: didn't necessarily consult like a expert or like a real

826
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: drug advocacy personally.

827
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: This is like the nine O two one oh version of.

828
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: It, just like what he's going to slap her three times?

829
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: The slap God, those were really intense.

830
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: Somebody's in like the folly, you're like mixing stage and

831
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: they're just like add like smacking a ham sound on there,

832
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: so it sounds really intense, Like I don't think he

833
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: certainly didn't hit her to make that big of a

834
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: noise in real life, but they of course not.

835
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: They added that sound. I was like, yeah, what was

836
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: but he was fully in it. And then the shower

837
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: and like.

838
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: Come on Rightchael, come on whoa yeah, just carry some

839
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: narcan man.

840
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 1: Beating the guy up. I think this was when Joe

841
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: maybe was auditioning for True Blood. I wonder if the

842
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: episodes coencide. She was like, Okay, I have this other

843
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: job that really needs to see me as like a

844
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: super tough guy. He might turn into a werewolf in

845
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: that shower with me. At any moment, Owen was going

846
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: to turn into a warm one.

847
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: Hun and him beating up the dealer too was so

848
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: fun just I mean, it was like, why didn't he

849
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: just go into the hallway. Why did he bring him

850
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: inside the apartment to do it. They've got one of

851
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: those freight elevators. He could have beat him in the

852
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: freight elevator, totally, yes, But he brought him inside to

853
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: where the two girls were.

854
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: I guess maybe if there are cameras, he didn't want

855
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: to end up getting arrested. Maybe. I don't know, but

856
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: I have to say I will say. I will say.

857
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: I will say that when when I watched Brooke in

858
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: this episode and think about the trajectory of of her,

859
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: know she she does have her confidence in business, so

860
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: that's where she her sweet spot is. But we've seen

861
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: her vulnerability with her mom and still kind of trying

862
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: to figure it out with men and and but she's

863
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: been living in her comfort zone of work and to

864
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: have a guy come around that she can't manipulate and

865
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: she can't not I don't know that I'm saying Brook

866
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: is manipulative. But we all have our like little tricks

867
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: in our twenties. We have the bag of tricks, yes, totally,

868
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: and so her bag of tricks don't work on Owen.

869
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: And I feel like being put in a position where

870
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: she's totally helpless and realizing that she needs to grow more,

871
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: like when you have that moment in life where you go, oh,

872
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: there's a I'm being presented with an opportunity to grow

873
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: into more maturity in a new way. And I feel

874
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: like he gets to be he and Rachel get to

875
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: be a vehicle for her in that as she's just

876
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: observing all of this happening, feeling helpless, not knowing what

877
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: to do. And I feel like it really ties in

878
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: with what's going on with her mom, and that when

879
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: she starts to step into her own skin and step

880
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: into that maturity, it's really going to affect her ability

881
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: to also stand up to her mother and take kind

882
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: of just take the reins and just accept, Like, you know,

883
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: that's one of the hardest things for any girl to

884
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: accept if you grow up having a mom, that it

885
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: feels like you have to raise your mom instead of

886
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: the other way around. And I think what I've observed

887
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: about that is that at some point the world just

888
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: has to switch and you just kind of have to

889
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: accept it and forgive and go Okay, I didn't I

890
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: didn't get what I thought I should have in that space.

891
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: But it's okay, and we're going to just switch this

892
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: into something new. And I'm really looking forward to seeing

893
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: her do that with Victoria. So yeah, it's a very

894
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: long winded way of saying I'm excited for Brook's future.

895
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: I know what it's like to have your parents be

896
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 2: like people are using you, you know what I mean.

897
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: Your parents have control over you for a big chunk

898
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: of your life, and when they tell you that something

899
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: is a danger or that something is the wrong path,

900
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: you're like, oh yeah, of course, of course.

901
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: And then you hit that point in adulthood where you're like, wow,

902
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: maybe it's not do you know what's best?

903
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 2: Terrible to open myself up to people maybe that maybe

904
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: like vulnerabilities cool And to see Brook go through that.

905
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: And these two people who Victoria could absolutely you know,

906
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: characterize as leeches on her life. This friend who's a

907
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: junkie who was a terrible model that we had to fire,

908
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: and then Owen, what's he ever? Gonna be He's an

909
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: ex addict bartender. These are people that can't offer Brooke

910
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: Davis anything. They can't offer her anything material, but they

911
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: can offer her everything emotional. And being able to identify

912
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: that as a young adult is really important because some

913
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: of the most important friendships you have are going to

914
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: be with people who aren't aroung on the ladder.

915
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: Right.

916
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, I love that for her, and I'm glad

917
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: that Rachel's coming back to Tree Hill.

918
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: Because we're gonna have fun.

919
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had fun in that little like apartment set

920
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: because it was just a bunch of brassy chicks being no.

921
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: I missed that. I missed that energy. We've gotten so

922
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: far away from that with all the other new people

923
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: that they brought in, and you know, I get it.

924
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean, people have been watching us for four years,

925
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: four and a half years. They wanted to start diversifying

926
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I do miss I missed the

927
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: three girl energy that we watched a lot in the

928
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 1: first few seasons. That was so fun, and I hope

929
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: we're getting more of that coming up soon.

930
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: We've got to get rid of all these husbands and boyfriends.

931
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: I know, send them packing for a little while.

932
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: Well, Quinn's going through the same thing that Rachel's going through,

933
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: just like a total identity loss crisis.

934
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And.

935
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: I mean my son there's like a school jock thing

936
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 2: at Gusa's school and he doesn't participate in it. I mean,

937
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: he does rec league basketball because it's goofy and like

938
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: there's no there's like nothing at stake. It's just fun

939
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: and like you're far and around with your friends. But

940
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: the seriousness of some of the sports stuff. We talk

941
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 2: about it and I'm just like, but if that's something

942
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: that you want to do, cool. But I do know

943
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: from doing my show at least that like a lot

944
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: of addiction stems from high school sports because you push

945
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: your body when it's in its growth phase, interesting, and

946
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: you get addicted to painkillers because you've got to have

947
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: your ACL replaced, you've got to go the physical there.

948
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: But you've got to do like all this stuff to

949
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: repair yourself. And I don't understand why we're pushing a little.

950
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: Kids so hard. Yeah, we don't do that in theater, right,

951
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: Like no kid who.

952
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: Well I'm talking like I'm telling you, like public school,

953
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: high school theater. Those kids aren't going to rehab and

954
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: getting put on oxy and to get through they're not.

955
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: It's a different kind of team sport. I do worry

956
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: for someone like Quentin.

957
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: The pressure to be excellent. You gotta be the best,

958
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: and when everybody around you, you know, big fish, small pond,

959
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: everybody around you is telling you you're You're the best,

960
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: You're the best. You gotta this is your life, this

961
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 1: is who you are. I mean, he's built his clearly

962
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: built his entire identity around basketball and his abilities to

963
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: be superior.

964
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: Did you notice that Nathan spent more time talking to

965
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 2: Quinton than he did his own life.

966
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that.

967
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes and he has a whole ass like

968
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: emotional conversation with Quentin and like feelings and all this.

969
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: Meanwhile his wife is sitting at home just like I'm

970
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: gonna kill him. Yeah, that's interesting. Just deciding to not

971
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: spend one hundred percent of his energy.

972
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a pitch stop at the high school

973
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: gym as a grown as man.

974
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: Just talk to this kid, I mentor for a second,

975
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: because I'm in such a great position to do that.

976
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: That is really strange.

977
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: Nathan fails that. Nathan gets an f this episode. I'm

978
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: mad at it.

979
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: I did feel a little bit like James was just

980
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: kind of bored with this episode. I don't not as

981
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: not I would never know that as a viewer watching

982
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: an actor, but just knowing James, Yeah, there was some

983
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: moments I was just like, you're bored, aren't you? Buddy.

984
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: My favorite moment, my favorite moment of Nathan is when

985
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: he and Lucas are driving back from the parole board

986
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 2: meeting and Luke's just like, how could you do that?

987
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: And Nathan's like he's such a little kid in that

988
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 2: moment because he's like we talking.

989
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: About yuh we do we want to? Like he was

990
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: just so like, I don't, I wantn't really think about it.

991
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: Why is everybody mad at me today? Yes? Oh can't

992
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: do anything right? Everybody's mad at me? Oh he what's

993
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: with today today? Yeah?

994
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: He just everyone's pissed at him, and Lucas has like

995
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: a great reason for being pissed at him too, Like

996
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: had Lucas and Haley joined forces.

997
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: Oh god, that would have been so good. I would

998
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: have paid money to have that line be in the

999
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: in the script, Nathan walk out of the room just

1000
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: like throwing something down and be like, man, what is

1001
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: with today?

1002
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just could not win. But the parole thing

1003
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: was weird because you know, like we've covered cases where

1004
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: people who are clearly innocent go up for parole and

1005
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: and parole boards are like notoriously not into it, especially

1006
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: on like violent offenses. If you're in there for like weed,

1007
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 2: if you're in there for whatever, they're like, yeah, all right,

1008
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: we're overpopulated to get out.

1009
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: But if you shot your.

1010
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: Brother and you cop to it and now you're in

1011
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: this parole board hearing and you're like, it's because he

1012
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: stole my girlfriend.

1013
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: It's a little reverse psychology though that he's trying to do.

1014
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: Which is I belong in here. Do not let me

1015
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: out if for some reason, you guys need the space

1016
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: and happen to decide I'm the one that needs to leave, Liz,

1017
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: I just promise open up a bed. Yeah, like, I'll

1018
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: do the best that I possibly can, but truly, like

1019
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: you should keep me. I deserve to be in here,

1020
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: Bael Gross No, the thing that they look for is remorse.

1021
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: Right, Like, yeah, like I can't live with myself because

1022
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: I did this, and I have been volunteering. I'm a

1023
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: teacher for other inmates now I'm a part of this

1024
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: church in the prison, you know, like they're looking to

1025
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: see what your civic responsibilities have been in the ecosystem

1026
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: of the prison and things like that. And there's just

1027
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: no fucking way that those boys would be in a

1028
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: room with him him, not shackled to the chair, you know,

1029
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: like there's again they didn't consult a drug expert. We

1030
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: clearly didn't have a prison expert on our show, but

1031
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: that would have been fun, Like can you imagine if

1032
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: they were, like, we've got to fly in the prison expert.

1033
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 2: We've got got some knowledge getting dropped on these kids

1034
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 2: right now.

1035
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: I thought Lucas's speech was effective. I did too. I

1036
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: did too. It was nice to see him out of

1037
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: out of romantic drama zone. Also just to give him

1038
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: this opportunity to stretch a different muscle.

1039
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: Well, and where's lindsay. If she loves him so much,

1040
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: why isn't she comforting him?

1041
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: They didn't want to pay for another actor in the episode.

1042
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: It's either Paul or Mikaela.

1043
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: Paul.

1044
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 2: They only had they only had money for one and

1045
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 2: they have Hadnill.

1046
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, right.

1047
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: And Owen, all right, look, we spent.

1048
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: Our Okay, okay.

1049
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: Bye, Well, what did we miss anything?

1050
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: I think we got it all. I can't think of anything.

1051
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: You know who I miss though? Barbara? I need some

1052
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: Barbara in my life. And really bass, Deb I need

1053
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: some Antoine. Why wasn't Deb in the parole hearing room?

1054
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: Where was she? Yeah? He's threatened her so many times

1055
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: on Why wasn't she there? Karen should have had a

1056
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: letter that was read, Yes, I know, Oh, drop the ball,

1057
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: drop the ball. Friends, thank you for listening to all that.

1058
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: We have some listener questions if you want to move

1059
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: on all right.

1060
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: Carrie wants to know if your characters and their moms

1061
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: got a mother daughter.

1062
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: Tattoo, what do you think they would get?

1063
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh? Your mom was real bohemian on this show.

1064
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, oh gosh. I actually just got a text

1065
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 1: from Bess Armstrong a few days ago. I love her.

1066
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: I think she's uh, we might both be at this

1067
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: twenty twentieth anniversary thing in Wilmington. She's as great if

1068
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: anybody's going, what would what would she get? Oh? That's

1069
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: so good. I feel like, well, Haley's already got her

1070
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: twenty three?

1071
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: Would it be weird if her mom also got the

1072
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: twenty three as the tramp stamp that's so cute on

1073
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 2: you get a toy.

1074
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: I feel like they'd get a little like a little tree,

1075
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: like a matching. Maybe there's a tree over a over

1076
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: a I mean, well, I don't want to steal Peyton's

1077
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: thunder the one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you

1078
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: know I was going to say over a gravestone. I

1079
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to steal like I could see Peyton getting

1080
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: a getting a tattoo of some sort of more that

1081
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 1: was in the grip. Yeah, it is a little macab

1082
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you Yeah, maybe some sort of

1083
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: adventurous like or something from their travels, like a place

1084
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: at Haley, you know, to remind Haley that there is

1085
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: more of the world out there besides Tree Hill and

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Speaker 1: to get out because her mom was always trying to

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00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: was always traveling. You know, they left all the kids

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00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: once they were old enough. I've got a trailer, sold

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00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: the house and took off. That her mom had such

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00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: a sense of adventure. Yeah, that I think Lydia would

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00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: probably want to encourage Haley to get something that has

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00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: to do with maybe maybe like a little like a

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00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: Avian postage stamp or something something cute. That's like travel,

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00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Get out there, babe, don't just get don't just stay here,

1095
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: don't forget Like there's big, wide world out there.

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00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: Trail's fine, but have you ever been to Santa Fe?

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00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: You know, you know, go little cactus there. What about Peyton?

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00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: It's definitely a song lyric like, yeah, you know, she

1099
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 2: only had her first mom around for eight years and

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00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: then I think probably filled in a lot of blanks there.

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00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: But her and Ellie for sure are.

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00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: Going to some seedy tattoo parlor being like Ramon's lyrics

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00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: or like yeah, probably like not a surf or something,

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00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, something something obscure for sure. Yeah,

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00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: that's a no brainer. And I like that where would

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00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: Peyton get it?

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00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: Because the thing is, I don't think Peyton wants people

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00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: walking up to her and being like, what's your dad

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00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: do about? She would be like, I don't want to

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00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: talk about it.

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00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 2: Peyton's gonna put it in the most painful place possible.

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00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 2: I mean, all my tattoos are on my ribs and

1113
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, it's not a fun place to put them,

1114
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: and I'm like, but I want to be able to hide.

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00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: Them for work.

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00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't need people to know my business. Yeah, she's

1117
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 2: gonna put it somewhere super painful, like along her.

1118
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: Spot on top of her foot. Oh yeah, you got that,

1119
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: and that is that hurts. I would not do that again.

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Speaker 2: No. I put one on my hip and it was

1121
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 2: all fine and like the fleshy parts, and then they

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00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: got right to the hip phone and it was like.

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, why are you doing this to me? Okay,

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00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: I'll give you your money. You can the way it

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00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: is in with a marker every day. It's fine. I'll

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00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: just okay, what's our honorable mention? Oh hmmm, trying I

1127
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: mean of something.

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00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: Jamie's dead Man's float was very pretty good man, pretty convincing,

1129
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: and it made my butt pucker, like as a parent,

1130
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: you see that and it is you can feel that

1131
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: visceral like.

1132
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awful. He did a good job. He really did. Yeah.

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00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: I don't like there was no other guests. There's no

1134
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: other even like, uh, you know in Mouth kind of

1135
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: has a side thing or I mean, there's just nothing

1136
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: else happening in the episode.

1137
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: So, I mean Denille's performance, Danille just being like.

1138
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: That was outstanding, truly. Yeah, yeah, I mean yes, for me,

1139
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: that was the most interesting thing in the episode. I loved.

1140
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: I loved what she did, and I could have watched

1141
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: I could have watched a whole hour of her walking

1142
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: through that character arc. Yeah.

1143
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: I was just like sitting on the couch and like

1144
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 2: actually talking to Brooke about how she got there.

1145
00:59:58,560 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1146
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get that in up coming episodes spin offs.

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01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: Next uh next episode, Season five, episode eleven, You're gonna

1148
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: need someone on your side?

1149
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's spin that wheel before we see you

1150
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: guys next week.

1151
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: Are most likely too?

1152
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: Is most likely to start up a conversation with the

1153
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: person next to them on a plane. Oh you know

1154
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: this is not me?

1155
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: Not it me either, be either I'll lean into one, like, man,

1156
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: if somebody wants to talk to me, I sort of

1157
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm a very I try and be

1158
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: a little kind of hippy dippy sensitive, like maybe I'm

1159
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: meant to have a conversation with someone. Okay, I'll like,

1160
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: but I don't ever start one.

1161
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: No, it is not me who's starting a conversation. I

1162
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: don't even know that bevit No, I don't think it's Bevin.

1163
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: Bevin will be polite, but she's a Southern woman. She's

1164
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: just like I'll smile. I don't want to do this.

1165
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: Okay, he's done by that. I think it's Paul. I

1166
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: think it depends in one hundred percent.

1167
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 2: Yes, it's Paul all day, because Paul's like, I'm going

1168
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: to find what your weakness is and I'm going to

1169
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: work on it with you for the next three to

1170
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: six hours.

1171
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it depends on his mood. He's a moody dude,

1172
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: and so it could be that he gets on the

1173
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: plane and he's like headphones. I don't want to be

1174
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: stuck in a conversation. I don't want to be in uh.

1175
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess he could. He could definitely go

1176
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: either way.

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01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: What character, though, I don't know. He's the one to

1178
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: have the most like sincere conversation on a plane.

1179
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like Dan would also actually would be

1180
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: quite likely to strike up a conversation with someone on

1181
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: a plane because he's always looking for an angle or

1182
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, do I need to know you? Or do

1183
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: I need to know you? Yeah, you know, even just

1184
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: to poke at people and like feel like the typical bully,

1185
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: like I need to feel better about myself, I'm going

1186
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: to poke at you.

1187
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: I think she's hungry for experience. It's like, what's this

1188
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: experience going to be?

1189
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1190
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: Like what can you add?

1191
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: What can I suck out of this? Yeah?

1192
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: Vampire, an emotional vampire.

1193
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: That guy all.

1194
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: Right, next week, I hope things turn around for Rachel.

1195
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 2: We'll find out so too.

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