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Speaker 1: The Worlds Original podcast. This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots training Camp twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm Fred Kirsch, joined by Paul Perillo, Evan Lazar, Mike Dussault,

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Speaker 1: and we are gonna be here with you for the

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Speaker 1: first day of public training camp.

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Speaker 2: We are excited. The weather is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: We're high above the practice fields here at Gillette Stadium

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring you everything we can uh from

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Speaker 1: practice today. Join us after practice as well. Duce and

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Speaker 1: Paul and Evan will have wrap ups. But it's a

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Speaker 1: big day for the Patriots and for Patriots fans as

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Speaker 1: we kick off training camp. And guys, let's jump right

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Speaker 1: into it. What are you most excited about.

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Speaker 3: I'm just excited that football's back, and you know we're

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Speaker 3: gonna be a slow build to real football, but it's

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Speaker 3: always a fun feeling here, first day of school, everybody back,

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Speaker 3: seeing the media down there from Vrabel again a few minutes,

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Speaker 3: but just to get going, I think that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 3: And as I said on Patriots unfiltered yesterday. Once we

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Speaker 3: get through this day with that car, let's get the pads.

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Speaker 3: Then we want to get to the preseason. Say, but

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Speaker 3: we're starting the train rolling, So I think it's it's

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Speaker 3: always exciting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there is an energy, right So this has

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Speaker 4: been around the team, I think the entire offseason since

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Speaker 4: Rabel was announced as the new head coach. I think

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Speaker 4: there's been a renewed energy and enthusiasm and I'm going

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Speaker 4: to be easy. What am I excited about Drake May?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, the quarterback is to me, the marquee guy

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Speaker 4: on any team, and the Patriots have a young and

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Speaker 4: talented one. I want to see what it.

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Speaker 3: Looks like in you tube.

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Speaker 5: There's a little bit of extra juice driving into the

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Speaker 5: building today. You did feel it a little bit in

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Speaker 5: the car.

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Speaker 4: Twenty seventh training camp for me, and I'm feeling it.

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Speaker 5: I feel the song that you were ping on the

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Speaker 5: radio I did Crazy Train. Yeah, so it was. You

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Speaker 5: do feel a little bit of that extra juice. But

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Speaker 5: I think overall kind of in the same lines of Deuce.

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Speaker 5: It's just there's so much optimism right now with this team.

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Speaker 5: It really feels like the coaching's better, the roster's better.

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Speaker 5: Drake May is obviously exciting as well. So let's see it.

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Speaker 5: Let's all let's start to put this thing together and see,

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Speaker 5: you know, where they can go from here.

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Speaker 3: Just not to oversimplify it, but I mean this year,

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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs, Milton Williams two names that you're going to

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Speaker 3: see come out here that are you know, legit, blue

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Speaker 3: chip proven players in this league, something they haven't had

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Speaker 3: enough of the last few years. I'm excited to see

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Speaker 3: those guys, new faces out there hopefully can elevate both

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm excited about everything you guys just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: and just the fact that we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: Christmas presents and we haven't been able to open them yet.

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw some glimpses of them, but now

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Speaker 1: you know, we're really gonna see the stuff that we

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Speaker 1: got in the off season. You know, throughout training camp

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Speaker 1: mentioned the joint practices. That'll be a big day. So

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Speaker 2: Do we got.

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Speaker 3: I think we've opened them, we just can't play with them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know what it is. I just I can't wait

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be exciting. So it's no some some you know.

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Speaker 3: I think the other thing is the team is generally

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Speaker 3: healthy too. It's a good sign the pup list coming

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Speaker 3: health to start camp. Of course, that's a baseline for

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Speaker 3: every NFL team right now. Guys get hurt, how do

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, private charter, does that mean the.

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Speaker 1: Probably New Orleans is a great place to go visit

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Speaker 1: in good place to go see a football game too,

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Speaker 1: So that's exciting.

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Speaker 2: So that.

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Speaker 5: Was the one I had circle that in Tampa were

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Speaker 5: the two ones that I'm most excited about the seasons.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hear dogs barking. The Patriots are doing a

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Speaker 1: dog adoption event today so people can come and adopt

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Speaker 1: puppies that are being brought onto the field.

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Speaker 2: We'll see that in a bit.

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Speaker 1: Players are going to be bringing up actually bringing the

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Speaker 1: see fans starting to fill for the bleachers. Slow arrival today.

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Speaker 6: It seems like it's a I don't mean practice.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's it's started for a while.

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Speaker 4: So we're starting. We should let everybody know we're starting

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Speaker 4: a little earlier than we normally would because of the

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Speaker 4: will go to that one, which is a little earlier

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Speaker 4: We'll go to him live, so we will be a

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Speaker 2: Just think it's still a little early.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think this is you guys talked about

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Speaker 4: the weather. I think this is ideal for opening day.

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Speaker 3: You know, what I'm hoping for is that the players

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Speaker 4: That's why Evan and I are honored to be part

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Speaker 4: of your post practice podcast.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll see about that. We'll see about that, Paul,

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Speaker 3: You're you're on your shaky ground right.

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Speaker 4: Well Fred said it, so now it's out there.

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Speaker 1: Well used to say about players, you say, you know,

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Speaker 1: if they don't bite when they're puppies, they won't bite

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Speaker 2: So you want to see a lot of the start.

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Speaker 2: You know, who's looking good, right? Looking?

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Speaker 4: Not a bad one right?

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Speaker 3: Right? Williams carrying a dog up that's just biting everybody.

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Speaker 3: You're like, this is a good sign. It's a good sign.

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Speaker 4: By Tony Tony Gator speaking of like training camp legends,

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Speaker 4: Tony Gator, he's like a train He's like a chained

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Speaker 4: You let him do some I'm just gonna wild.

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Speaker 1: He came and went so many times on and off

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he must have gotten cut at least ten ten times.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like a year and a half.

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Speaker 3: Well, I got I gotta put you guys on the spot.

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Speaker 3: How many training camps is this for? The infamous tandem

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Speaker 3: of Kerse and Perilla. I mean, you guys, seventy seven

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Speaker 2: Is thirty or thirty one for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back in the days of Brian Oh, those were

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Speaker 1: the days that that was when training camp really was

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Speaker 3: Thanks to your lemonade. I know you that was your

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Speaker 3: deb lemonade, right right, that fancy lemonade in college.

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Speaker 1: But those were, you know, the two a days, those

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Speaker 3: Would what would you guys do covering those games where

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Speaker 4: Was on internet where I actually stayed at Brian College

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Speaker 3: Yeah, up on the punk fence.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was a long day. It was it

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Speaker 2: One of them was Mars Gasper.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, who later went on to the Boston Globe.

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Speaker 4: But I know, you guys laugh at me when I

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Speaker 4: called Fred the kingmaker.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I remember Chris, would you know?

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Speaker 1: He'd trudge out to the practice field with his little

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Speaker 3: was another one. Well you said it, Paul, he's a kingmaker.

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Speaker 3: Gasper was in that list as well. But ye's totally different.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like you watched the morning practice

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Speaker 3: so I imagine it's a little more measured about what you're

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Speaker 4: It is absolutely you know, most of it. We get

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Speaker 1: on the internet back then, you know, so, like Paul said,

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Speaker 5: It was bad.

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Speaker 4: It was I was not that wasn't I was. I

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Speaker 4: had We're going to start with two words. Salary cat

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Speaker 1: This, Yeah, so that that's a funny story from back

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Speaker 1: Well, I later found out from somebody high up here

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So we talked about you know what

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Speaker 3: People might overblow some of the one on ones. That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're new to this.

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Speaker 2: Is he? Are we ready to do that?

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Speaker 4: So he's walking, he has that, he has a dog

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Speaker 2: Get right now with the dog the dog has I'm

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Speaker 4: She's trying to steal our jobs. I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: All right, so we'll listen to see what Mike hast

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Speaker 5: Knew it, knew it was Wyatt tell.

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Speaker 2: They're having issues that all right, I guess we have

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Speaker 3: It's one of those back to back press conference days

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Speaker 4: I agree, Mike. I thought, you know, the injury news

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Speaker 4: what would have changed between you know, eleven o'clock yesterday

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Speaker 5: Day and when that could put viral to it's great,

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Speaker 6: It's just the beginning of it.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna talkbout it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like going to tell you that so far Rabel

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Speaker 3: It's just it feels like he never left in some ways,

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Speaker 3: You know that was another thing he said yesterday. Diggs's

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Speaker 4: I can't give them any week because he's seen, you

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Speaker 6: Thank you, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: This skill, you know, sticking on the line backers subject.

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Speaker 4: And and my answer to that is always about depth.

446
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 4: And that's an area specifically. Robert Splaine to me, is

447
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 4: one of one.

448
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I would worry if they lost at his

449
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 2: audio Now.

450
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 1: I guess not, well, I can't hear it, so all right,

451
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 1: So so back back to the linebackers.

452
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean I would here

453
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,159
Speaker 3: we go.

454
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 7: That's presentation, which is critical. And the one thing that

455
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 7: you know I tried to reference to our football team

456
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 7: was like I went to attendant at doctor's dinner for

457
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 7: every doctor and nurse and every person that would come

458
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 7: in contact with our football team through the course of

459
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 7: the year.

460
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 8: And we're extremely lucky to be where we're at to

461
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 8: get that kind of care. We can get our MRIs,

462
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 8: we can get a lot of our lab work right

463
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,160
Speaker 8: here at Patriot Place.

464
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 7: And the one thing that Jim Whale and our trainer

465
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 7: told us told me at that dinner because I was like,

466
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 7: there's a lot. I wouldn't expect them there to be

467
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 7: this many people, and he said that there is one.

468
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 7: We have one specialist per every three players, and whether

469
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 7: that's an orthopedic or whether that's a cardiologist, that is somebody,

470
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 7: a neurologist, anybody that would have to be in contact

471
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 7: with our players. We have a large group and we're

472
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 7: thankful they take care of us here at Patriot Place

473
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 7: at Brigham in Women's to be able to get in

474
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 7: an MRI and get back and be efficient so the

475
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 7: players can back and meetings, all these different things, you know,

476
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 7: the concussion, making sure that that presentation is presented.

477
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 8: So there's an extensive medical.

478
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 7: Equipment, you know, wearing the proper equipment and understanding what

479
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 7: that is about some of these young guys and their feet.

480
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 7: We covered a hotel, we covered security, we covered media

481
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 7: there for you guys. There's an immediate presentation that there's

482
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 7: a film that the league puts out. Uh and so

483
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 7: Stacey and I talked to them about that and you know,

484
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,719
Speaker 7: so there's a long checklist.

485
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: You have to have a medical.

486
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: Job, Jim's experience and your own experience relationship with him

487
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:33,959
Speaker 3: as long as he's been.

488
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 6: How valuable is that?

489
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 7: Well, Uh, you know, the trainer I worked with in

490
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 7: Tennessee was was a mentor for Jim as well, so

491
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 7: Todd Torris Selly, Jim had worked with him. So when

492
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 7: I left here, we still all stayed in contact because

493
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 7: I was working with Todd and Tennessee and Todd talked

494
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 7: to Jim a lot.

495
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 8: But there is a lot of comfort there.

496
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 7: There's a lot of experience on Jim's part, and so

497
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 7: we're just trying to give the players the best care

498
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 7: that we can as quickly as we can, and to

499
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 7: give each guy what they need.

500
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 8: So that's been that's been good.

501
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 7: And again we we always talk about these Some of

502
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 7: these injuries are going to be unavoidable. It's just how

503
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 7: we work from them and how we come back from

504
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 7: them is what's most important.

505
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 9: Like that's a moment in the video that the team

506
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 9: produced the Fortune of Foxborough show. I guess you'd call

507
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 9: it where the team is sort.

508
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 2: Of in between me, what did you call?

509
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 8: What is it? A docus?

510
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 2: That's probably a more apt for it.

511
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 5: And I'm the media guy, So a nice job by you.

512
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 9: The offensive sort of in between plays and you say

513
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 9: something to Drake like, hey, you've got a minute here,

514
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 9: talk to your guys. Why is that important to you?

515
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 9: How how naturally does that come to Drake to do

516
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 9: things like that? And you know how much of a

517
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 9: focus will that be for you as head coach to

518
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 9: kind of draw that out of it.

519
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 7: My job is to figure out what we need and

520
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 7: what each player needs and do everything that I can

521
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 7: to help them physically or mentally or emotionally, and I

522
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 7: try to recreate these practices the same way the game is.

523
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 7: The offense goes over there, we have a drive, the

524
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 7: last one play, three plays, eight plays, twelve plays, it

525
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 7: ends in six points, seven three points, whatever it ends in,

526
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 7: or a punt, and you go over there and you

527
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 7: have to talk to the coordinator. You're gonna talk to Josh,

528
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 7: but then the quarterback is gonna have to go up

529
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 7: and down and make sure, Hey, we just had this

530
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 7: happen on this last play.

531
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Speaker 8: If we get it again, this is all this defense

532
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 8: for the first time.

533
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot of.

534
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 7: Things because it's always going to mean more coming from

535
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 7: the guy that's out there leading, and that's all. That

536
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 7: situation was no different than defensively, you're gonna go over there,

537
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 7: the linebackers and safeties are going to talk say hey,

538
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 7: we're gonna make this check or they're in this formation.

539
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 7: You know, we're gonna have to make sure that we

540
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 7: adjust to it quickly. Or if we get the same,

541
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 7: chances are if they had success with it, we're gonna.

542
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 8: See it again.

543
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 5: Milton Williams told us a story about you pushing him

544
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 5: and a conditioning drill. How has he responded to that

545
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 5: and what have you seen from him from a leadership

546
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 5: and conditioning Stampin.

547
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 7: Early on that was something that was important to Milk

548
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 7: was that he wanted to lead.

549
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 8: And there had been zero pushback. He is fun to coach.

550
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 7: He's very mature, and so there's zero reservation about his

551
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 7: leadership ability. He's here a lot. He's here all the time.

552
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 7: He shows up early, gets plenty of work in, takes

553
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 7: care of his body. He's a true pro.

554
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 3: At the end of the day.

555
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 9: What would make a successful training camp for your team

556
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 9: at the end of.

557
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 7: The summer, Well, if we can remember what the objectives

558
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 7: of training camp were, which were do you remember.

559
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 2: Said, no, that was yesterday?

560
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 8: Build a team? Remember Mike.

561
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 5: Earn a role.

562
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 7: Remember the last one, prepare to win. You guys are

563
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 7: on fire today. We're off to a great start. So

564
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 7: if we can do those things, there's a reason I

565
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 7: try to do this. I don't claim to be the

566
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 7: smartest person. So if I can just try to find

567
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 7: some things that I think are important for the team

568
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 7: and the individual and then kind of coming back to

569
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 7: the team.

570
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 8: So if it looks like we build.

571
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 7: A team and there's some cohesion and guys are enjoying

572
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 7: being around each other, are they competing, are they taking.

573
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 8: Care of each other?

574
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 7: And then are guys starting to figure out, hey, this

575
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 7: is gonna be my role. I'm going to go try

576
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 7: to dominate that on whatever that may be. And then ultimately,

577
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 7: are we understanding these situations and can we try to

578
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 7: win a football game so that that's what would be successful.

579
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 9: What do you look for in the leadership, Like what

580
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 9: do you want from your leaders but also your captains?

581
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 7: And well, I mean I think that every I hope

582
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 7: player and coach can be an extension of the message

583
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 7: that I have created and try to, you know, get

584
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 7: that across in their own words and stay consistent to it.

585
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 7: That's why we don't have a ton of stuff that

586
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 7: we try to talk about. We try to stay very

587
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 7: consistent and allow that to kind of branch off and

588
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 7: don't tell them what to say, but allow them to

589
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 7: have some some parameters and things that we're working for.

590
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 7: So we just hope that everybody carries that message over

591
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 7: here as they work to lead their unit or another position.

592
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 4: Thank you, all right?

593
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: That was Mike Rabel again apologize for the early audio issues.

594
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: But you got the gist of it.

595
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well it's we hear stories about Mike Crabel

596
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 3: liking to put players on their toes, asking them questions

597
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 3: off the top, and I think we just sat with

598
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: the media too, so I think we have to be

599
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: on our toes as well.

600
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because like Paul and I have

601
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: been here for a long time. This is my thirty

602
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: of thirty first training camp. Paul has been here for

603
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: twenty seven of them, and throughout that time, you know,

604
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: even though Bill Belichick was here for a long time.

605
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: We've seen different styles of coaches handling the media, and

606
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: it's very clear that Mike Rabel's got his own style.

607
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: You know, he likes to engage, he likes to prad

608
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: he likes to poke fun and he's kind of treating

609
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: the media, at least right now a little bit like

610
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: he does players. Like we heard from players that in

611
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: meetings he challenges them, he asks some questions, you know,

612
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: do you remember?

613
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: Do you do?

614
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 2: You know the answer?

615
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: And he's doing the same thing with the media here.

616
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,239
Speaker 1: But you know, between Parcels, Pete Carroll, Bill Drod and

617
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: now Rabel, each of them have their own really distinct

618
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: styles and how they handle this.

619
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, printant schoolers talked a little bit about that, where

620
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: he's like, you're not afraid of him, but you know

621
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 3: that he means business and.

622
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 5: Be on your P and Q to be on top.

623
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: Of you maybe a little bit, and you got to

624
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: be ready. And that's the idea is he wants guys

625
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: prepared and be ready.

626
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: I mean the Buttom line for me though, was that

627
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 3: it's funny, like it's just I enjoy listening to him.

628
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: The press conferences can be dry, they can be you know,

629
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: same questions, you know what's going to come, but he

630
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: seems to be thoughtful about his answers. They don't feel

631
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: like prepackaged and if you ask a dumb question or

632
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: you're not on your toes. He's you better be ready because.

633
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 6: He might call you out.

634
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: You see Robert Kraft down there with the puppies and

635
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: his wife Dana uh. And then you see the people

636
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: in the background who have adopted dogs. They're receiving their

637
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: dogs now, so that's pretty cool. Who doesn't love a puppy?

638
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 4: Paul, I thought we were going to put a moratorium

639
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: one day?

640
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: Are we doing that all right? Well?

641
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: As a new dog dad myself in March, I have

642
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: to say we've we've enjoyed our little zoop guy, even

643
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: though we still can't figure him out. Last night, barking,

644
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: barking like crazy. Every time my dad stands up, sits down, cuddle,

645
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: loves just no problem. Dogs chilling my dad the second

646
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: my dad stands up.

647
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: I'll tell you, Mike, every time you talk about your

648
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: new dog ownership.

649
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 5: It really makes you want to go out and change

650
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 5: that way.

651
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: You're not selling it very well.

652
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 5: We got to get some training, all right.

653
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: Let's let's help Paul out. What's the perfect breed of

654
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: dog for Paul?

655
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: Oh?

656
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: God, like, it's got to be something like a labb

657
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: or Golden Now does low energy and easy.

658
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: Labs are high energy?

659
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 5: No lab labs like the loafer around like you gotta

660
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 5: Paul is not You're not going to want to give

661
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 5: Paul a dog that stubborn or you know how it's

662
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: hard headed because he needs like a beginner dogs battle

663
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 5: he'll win.

664
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I mean labs are the friendliest stuff.

665
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: They're so easy.

666
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you need a beginner dog for Pollie. You can't

667
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 5: you can't throw him like yeah, you throw him a

668
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 5: ridge back and he's you know, we're going to be

669
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 5: in trouble.

670
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: So if there's a what about a retriever, because then

671
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: he could get the diet pepsis, the you know, the

672
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: butt lights.

673
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I thought of it that way.

674
00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

675
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: I think we could all all get together on a

676
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: dog that might fetch us like a Jersey Mics perhaps,

677
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: you know, like go go.

678
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 6: Now, run down, run down Route one, go go ahead, and.

679
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: Boys like Alex from Strokes, Alex two Cold Strokes.

680
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: I just want Alice to help me, like with the

681
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 5: groceries and stuff. It's one hundred pounds, so it's like

682
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 5: can't like you're strong as hell. Can you help you

683
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 5: get a little wagon?

684
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like if I tie the wagon to you, you

685
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: get a wagon with a rope and you pull the

686
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: wagon like a.

687
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 3: Dog, you know, put your brunt stuff on and get

688
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: hook them up to like what do you have like

689
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: a or something in the backyard and.

690
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 6: You're just planting a field.

691
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 5: I could see just face now you'd be like, what

692
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 5: are you doing to my dog?

693
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: So prediction to night's news, what gets more airtime? Dogs

694
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: are Drake made dogs?

695
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 6: I think you got to leave with the dogs.

696
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: But if Drake throws, you know, a nice pass. Those

697
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: those always are a highlight of camp practice. You know,

698
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: one which I'm sure our wonderful video content you know

699
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: team will capture they're on top of all those plays,

700
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 3: but uh, those are always the the you know, they

701
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: were like a moment, you know, we have one a

702
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: little bit. I guess it was more Gonzales probably in

703
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: that in that mini camp where he had that that

704
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: one handed pass. But there's always a little play that

705
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: you know, you come out talking about what does it

706
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: mean in the grand you know, the grand scheme of

707
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: the season. Maybe not much, but it's still those little

708
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: plays that that build your excitement, make you think they're

709
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: going to make some big plays in the games.

710
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: That's great.

711
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel interacting with the pups. Robert Kraft taking pictures.

712
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: That's Kendrick Bourne. Marcus Willis was born in Marcus.

713
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

714
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know how many dogs that you have

715
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: here today?

716
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: I think there were a fleet of dogs. I think

717
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: there were twenty twenty. I think that was the number

718
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: of stuff this morning.

719
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 5: Well, yep, I was told to bring one home and

720
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 5: I so, yeah, one a friend. This is what I

721
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 5: get once a week.

722
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: That's the famous heisman in Missus Kraft's arm.

723
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I've heard about him now about I think come

724
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: up with heisman? Just I mean it's college football. R.

725
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

726
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: That's a good for a dog. I know.

727
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: I think it's a great name for a dog. I

728
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: just didn't know if there was. They got him from

729
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: somebody who won a Heisman maybe or something.

730
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 5: I don't know that it is him or her. I

731
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 5: met them in the admin level.

732
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 6: Don't know the dog's pronounce It.

733
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 5: Was running around and I'm just like, you know, a

734
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 5: dog person. So the next thing I know, there's Missus

735
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 5: Craft standing right in front of me.

736
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: You can't help it. Well, the guys are jogging out here.

737
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 5: I did see uh little notable Harold Landry appeared to

738
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 5: be the first player off the first guy I noticed.

739
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if it was the first. That's a

740
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: guy at this sign in all seriousness to to kind

741
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 5: of set the tone and circle the wagons for Mike Brabel.

742
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 5: Certainly a Rabel guy going back to Tennessee. So I

743
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 5: don't think it's a total coincidence that he was made

744
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 5: it a point to be one of the first guys

745
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 5: out here, and I think he's one of those guys

746
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 5: that they signed for that purpose.

747
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about him, Evan, because I

748
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: found myself just thinking about him a little bit as

749
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: we are wont to do you and I know sometimes

750
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: we're lying in bed pondering the Patriots roster where.

751
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: That means where it's like thinking about other girls, and it's.

752
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: Like football Lady was great under Rabel in Tennessee. Really,

753
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: you know, blossom there last year he still had nine sacks.

754
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: Tennessee releases him, Like where is he right now? I mean,

755
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: do you feel like we're getting a player who is

756
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: still geographically in Foxboro but in his career. Is he

757
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: still you know, at the peak of it, or do

758
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: you feel like you're kind of catching him as he's

759
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: starting to kind of Plateau down on the backside.

760
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

761
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: No, I think it's a good question to ask. I

762
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: feel like he still has production in him, but I

763
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: never really felt like he was one of these you know,

764
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: quote unquote elite pass rushers. You know, it's a couple

765
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 4: of guys that got forty plus million in this offseason

766
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett T. J.

767
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 5: Watt.

768
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: I don't think that before the injury he was tracking

769
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 4: to something like that. Yeah, But I do think he's

770
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: a solid player, probably more than just a pass rusher,

771
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: more of it, for sure, more of an every down

772
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: you know, he'll play, stick his nose against the run

773
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: and set the edge and do those kinds of you know,

774
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 4: the dirty that you need to do. I think he's

775
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: more well rounded, but I wouldn't necessarily expect him to

776
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: go and you know, put up twenty sacks.

777
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think there's anyone on this team

778
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: capable of that. But I think if everything comes together

779
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: on that front seven, I think as a committee, I

780
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: think they're going to be productive and I think they're

781
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: going to be disruptive, and I think that's the style

782
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: that they want to play.

783
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: You know, I think we're.

784
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: Away from the big space eaters in the middle who

785
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: are really just there to clod things up and free

786
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: up people behind them. And now we're in a phase

787
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: of defense. It's kind of new to us where everyone is.

788
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: Trying to get up field, and.

789
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: I, like I said, if everything works out, I think

790
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: by committee they'll be productive.

791
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: When in that sack department.

792
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, they might be high up there in like pressure

793
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 5: rates and win rates, but not necessarily high up there

794
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 5: in sacks, is the way I look at it. But

795
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 5: Landry and Paul used were well rounded, and that that's

796
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 5: the best word that I could come up with for

797
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 5: him too, because he's a really good run defender. He's

798
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 5: one of the better run defenders at his position. But

799
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 5: the big question is was last year a sign that

800
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 5: things were going down for him as a pass rusher

801
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 5: in his career or was it the scheme change that

802
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 5: he underwent with the coaching change in Tennessee. So can

803
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 5: we get the Harold Andry pass rusher from two years

804
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: ago with Mike Rabel and Trell Williams versus the guy

805
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 5: that played in Tennessee last year? If he can be

806
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 5: the guy that he was in twenty three, twenty two,

807
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 5: twenty one with Rabel and that staff down there. Then

808
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 5: that's a really productive all around player and guy that

809
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 5: that can play eighty eighty five percent of the snaps

810
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 5: and be a true starter on the defensive line. So

811
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see was it a schematic change.

812
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 5: Was it that he's you know, maybe lost half a

813
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: step as a pass rusher? I guess we'll find out.

814
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 4: But further remove from the injury too, so you could

815
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: get maybe a you know, a half a step back. Yeah,

816
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: you know, you often see that, you know, a full year,

817
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: you know, after the season, after the injury is when.

818
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 5: And even if he's just cleaning up, but you know,

819
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: Milton Williams and Christian Barmore and Keon White are they're

820
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 5: the ones that are moving the quarterback off his spot

821
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 5: and pressuring the quarterback. Initially, harab Lander could be a

822
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 5: double digit sack guy just by cleaning up, that's right,

823
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: just getting the quarterback on the ground for those guys.

824
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 5: So I would expect a lot of that to him,

825
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 5: kind of mirroring the quarterback, staying level, you know, keeping

826
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: him in the pocket and letting those guys be the

827
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 5: ones that kind of push him to him and not

828
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 5: necessarily someone off the edge. He has to cheat the

829
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 5: guy be to tackle.

830
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: What do you think key On White's role is on

831
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: this type of defense because he was never even in college,

832
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 2: he's not a sack guy.

833
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's not really fascinating to say they use what

834
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: do you think how.

835
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: Would you use You know, you're the savant, how would

836
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: you how would you use key On White? Assuming we're

837
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: correct and how we think they're going to scheme this defense,

838
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: how does he fit into that scheme?

839
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 5: Well, he's been one of the most versatile players in

840
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 5: the league an alignment standpoint, you know, moving inside and outside.

841
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 5: He's up there with all of the you know in

842
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 5: those metrics in terms of versatility. So ideally he carves

843
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: out a role as an early down edge setter and

844
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: then when it comes to third down or obvious pass situations,

845
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 5: they can move him inside to over the guard and

846
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 5: over the center and let him rush on the inside,

847
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 5: which is really where he's at his best. But in

848
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: order to be every down player, I think he's going

849
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 5: to have to develop as a defensive end and really

850
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 5: play over the tackle or outside the tackle on early downs.

851
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 5: I don't think you're going to put him in the

852
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 5: a ORB gap on first down and expect him to

853
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 5: hold up against the run. I just don't see that

854
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 5: being a great role for him. So he's a tweener.

855
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 5: He's going to move inside, you know, on passing situations,

856
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 5: play outside in obvious you know, early down situations. But

857
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: can they get that early down edge setting presence out

858
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: of him? Can he be more consistent than that? Can

859
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 5: he beat tackles in the pass rush? Can he set

860
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 5: the edge? Can he keep the quarterback in the pocket?

861
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: Like?

862
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 5: Those are the things that they're going to have to

863
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 5: work on with him. But I love that question. I

864
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: would love to ask Terrell Williams now that he's here,

865
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: you know what he sees and what his vision is

866
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 5: for him, because that's the type of player that's a

867
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 5: ball of clay that you can imagine Rabel and Terrell

868
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 5: Williams getting in the lab with Keon White and ironing

869
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 5: out his game.

870
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: So early downs you think edge setter, yeah, later downs,

871
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: passing downs? Is he the guy that makes the player

872
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: the facilitator?

873
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 5: Probably the facilitator, you know. I think that that him

874
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 5: and Milton Williams are probably more that than they are

875
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 5: true sack guys. They're disruptors they're they're gonna you know,

876
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 5: wreck the play and then you hope that a Landry,

877
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 5: a bar More, a you know, maybe one of these

878
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: younger edge rusher's peaks, you know, Brandon Swinson or something

879
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 5: like that. Those guys can come in and be the

880
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 5: guys that get the cornerback on the ground.

881
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about the impact that the

882
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: Bentley injury had last year. The impact that the bar

883
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: More illness had was that Keon White was almost like

884
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: the guy and that's not his role now, and it

885
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: was fair to him, you know, it to be not unfair,

886
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: but it was unfortunate that he was thrust into that role.

887
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: And I thought, I think we see the results and

888
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: you know that the defense just wasn't where it should

889
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: have been.

890
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everything Evan said is totally right. And

891
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: it's those early down you know, early downs where he's

892
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: playing that it's going to set his ceiling. Like I

893
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: think he's already an established good interior rusher and you

894
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: know it's set a hundred times, you know, him against guards.

895
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: It's a it's a mismatch that you you know, want

896
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: to exploit a little bit more crowded now with Milton

897
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: Williams in there and Christian Barmore, two other guys you're

898
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: going to play inside and you don't want to get

899
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: a lot of snaps for them. But can Keyon White

900
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: be a consistent force? Like Kevan said, I mean, you

901
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: talk about Harold Landry the balance in his game, the

902
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: ability to be a great edgsetter but also get nine sacks. It's,

903
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: you know, an all around and if Keon White were

904
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: able to elevate to that, and you know you're looking

905
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: at Landry and White on early downs and then you

906
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 3: can you know, mix in Chase On or potentially Swinson.

907
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: If it starts to click for him, then you've really

908
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: got something.

909
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 6: But there are four.

910
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: Guys, and they're all interesting, and they all have questions

911
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: about how they fit. I just think you're hopeful that

912
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: you're not asking any questions about Harold Landry, that he's

913
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: going to be, you know, the anchor for that unit.

914
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a gonzo bringing up one of the puppies.

915
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: I also got a chance to see Carlton Davis. We

916
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 4: haven't seen much of him during the course of the spring,

917
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: and Mike indicated yesterday that he would be out here.

918
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 5: And he is.

919
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 4: He was also one of the players that had a

920
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 4: dog with him.

921
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 5: Why am I cut that dog in? He definitely does have.

922
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 5: Carl Davis has that dog, and I'm Carl Davis will

923
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 5: scrap it. I love that moment in Forgue in Foxborough

924
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 5: when Davis and Gonzo were talking and Davis was like,

925
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 5: do you like left left side or right side of

926
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 5: the defense? And Gonzo was like, I don't care. I

927
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 5: didn't see that. With Christian Zalez right now, his kids

928
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 5: communiments is sky high. You know, he's got the Everybody

929
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: talked about him being a little quieter and a little

930
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 5: bit more reserved. That diva corner is starting to come

931
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 5: out with Christian Zales and I love.

932
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: It it is.

933
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: He's starting to get a little bit more sure of himself,

934
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Got to have that as a corner, Yeah,

935
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,959
Speaker 1: a little bit more talkative. I heard some quotes today

936
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: about pressure at his position and just welcoming it.

937
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: Uh.

938
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: He expects the pressure, he wants the pressure, he likes it.

939
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: It's everything you want to hear in your number one corner.

940
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

941
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: I don't know how you can have a team in

942
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: the NFL and not have a cornerback like that. I mean,

943
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: it's just there's just too many good weapons and you

944
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: have to at least have some confidence that you can

945
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: match up with the Justin Jeffersons of the world, which,

946
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: of course we'll get to see hopefully some of those

947
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: matchups and joint practices where you know, one on ones.

948
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: I don't know how much its gonna tell you about

949
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: either player, like for the season, but just how cool

950
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: is that to get to watch Christen Gonzalez go against

951
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: arguably one of the top, you know, three receivers in

952
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: the league, and Justin Jefferson.

953
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: We may not be able to see Terry McLaurin. Yeah,

954
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: maybe he'll be right, yeah.

955
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that that tandem Davis and and gonz obviously

956
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 5: has the potential to be one of the best in

957
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 5: the league. And just thinking of.

958
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: I'll just look at his swagger right now. It's definitely

959
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: absolutely I'm the man. He's walking out, I'm the man.

960
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 4: I agree.

961
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, just the flexibility that those two guys can

962
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 5: give you from a blitzing standpoint, from a run defense standpoint,

963
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 5: like when you know you have two guys on the

964
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 5: outside that don't need a ton of help because they're

965
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 5: really good. Man, coverage corners that you can really get

966
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 5: creative of how you're going to bring pressure and things

967
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 5: like that. And Week one against the Raiders, they're going

968
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 5: to want to feed Ash and Genty the Rocks and

969
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 5: now you can get another hat in the box and

970
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 5: you don't have to worry about that because nobody on

971
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 5: the outside is going to worry you with those two corners.

972
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 5: So that's really exciting to talk about, you know, developed

973
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: getting pressure and generating pressure on the quarterback. Well, if

974
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 5: you only have to put five guys in coverage because

975
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 5: those two guys are just taking out their assignments and

976
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 5: you can bring a lot of pressure.

977
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: You mentioned Forge, Then there was another moment in Forge

978
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: where it's Davis talking to Drake May and you know,

979
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: Davis had his guy blanketed and May, you know, decided

980
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: not to throw and it.

981
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: Was like, come on, you're not gonna give me that

982
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: because he knew he would have probably picked it off

983
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: if he did.

984
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: But you want that, you want the banter, you want

985
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: the the competition, uh pushing each other off.

986
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: That's first defense.

987
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 5: I mean, the flip side of that desire, the Patriots

988
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 5: receiver is going to be able to uncover against those

989
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 5: guys and practice here.

990
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: You know, when we started to talk about Gonzo against

991
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, I was thinking Diggs. You know, we saw

992
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: a little bit and that was one of the very

993
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 4: few times I thought last year that Gonzo kind of

994
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 4: struggled h you know, at times with Digs in that

995
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: Houston game. So I like to see, if you know,

996
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 4: assuming that that Digs is up to speed.

997
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: And ready to go.

998
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 4: I know he's playing, but you know, how close to

999
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: one hundred percent is he I'm gonna have an eye

1000
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 4: on some of those matchups for sure.

1001
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 6: Where is Digs at physically?

1002
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: You know, I think his biggest skill is just his

1003
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: rout running ability, and you know it's not necessarily dominant

1004
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 3: speed or anything like that. It's just he's so smart.

1005
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: That game last year against Houston, I thought was just

1006
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: a complete illustration of what we've seen from Stefan Diggs

1007
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 3: when the Patriots go against him, which is it's third

1008
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: and eight and he throws you know, Josh Allen or

1009
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: you know last year at c J. Stroud throws a

1010
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: pinpoint pass and you know, it's just right there and

1011
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: Diggs just runs it so perfectly.

1012
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 6: How does that chemistry start to develop.

1013
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: So I love Paul's point, but does he have that

1014
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: same chemistry with Drake May? As Drake May throwing with

1015
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: anticipation the Diggs, does he understand how he wants the

1016
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: routes run? And you know, if they can get on

1017
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 3: the same page, I think that'll be really exciting.

1018
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: If anyone's just catching up to Patriots News today with

1019
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 1: the first day of practice, you mentioned Diggs. He's out there,

1020
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: he's full go, He's totally clear to play. And I

1021
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: tell you, I'm pleasantly surprised. I did not expect that.

1022
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: I expected him to start in pup. It comes dra

1023
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, even looking at him in the spring, you know,

1024
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: one leg was noticeably smaller than the other.

1025
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: I didn't think he had full extension.

1026
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: What do I know, I'll no doctor, but I do

1027
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: know me me, because I've been through that. So I'm

1028
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: just really pleasant surprised that he's out here.

1029
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: We'll go.

1030
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 3: It's so important, I mean, just to get out there

1031
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: right from the get go and to start establishing that chemistry.

1032
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: And you know, it's of.

1033
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: Course we I think we're all anticipating that he might

1034
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: be a p up guy, and you know, it just

1035
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: complicates it how he's not going to really get the

1036
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: training camp reps that he was going to jump right

1037
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: into practice during the season, which we all know that's

1038
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: so focused on game planning, and you know, so for

1039
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: him to get out here and really have a chance

1040
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: to build that chemistry, be part of the team, really

1041
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: be in the mix right from the get go, I

1042
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: think it was just a huge bonus. And you guys,

1043
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: I thought he.

1044
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 4: Was going to open camp on p up, but then

1045
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 4: the spring I sort of felt like it was tracking

1046
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 4: ahead of that.

1047
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it comes right now.

1048
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: I'm not overly surprised to get that dog with him too.

1049
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 4: You know, he's another one, another one with the dogs.

1050
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 3: The dogs getting away from Diggs.

1051
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 5: It's good.

1052
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 4: Much like dis separates from cornerbacks, do.

1053
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: Separate from We need the Benny Hill music.

1054
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Diggs the trees right now taking

1055
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: this dog.

1056
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny.

1057
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: It's okay.

1058
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: The dog is all right, he's like on uneven ground

1059
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 4: over there.

1060
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

1061
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: You see what happens when you inte dogs.

1062
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 5: Everybody's fine, everybody's good, everybody's good.

1063
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: That was funny.

1064
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: I remember talking to you know, Frady would talk about

1065
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 5: being able to read body language of his receivers and

1066
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 5: like just knowing as they were approaching the top of

1067
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 5: the route based off of you know, where they were

1068
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 5: putting their weight and you know which foot they were

1069
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 5: planting on and things like that, that you could anticipate

1070
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 5: where the receiver was going to break ahead of time,

1071
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 5: especially with guys like you know, Edelman, who he threw

1072
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 5: to all the time. And if the Drake May and

1073
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 5: Stefands can start to get to that level, I just

1074
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 5: think the comfort that it gives the quarterback to know

1075
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 5: that he has a receiver of that caliber that's going

1076
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 5: to get open when he needs him to get open

1077
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 5: is just takes a lot of weight off the shoulder

1078
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 5: QB that he's not looking around, not knowing exactly where

1079
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 5: he's gonna go with the football on a third down

1080
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 5: or a key situation. You know, Hunter Henry, I think

1081
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 5: is partially that guy for Drake too, But if Diggs

1082
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 5: can be that guy along with Henry, then that's just

1083
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 5: so huge for the mindset of the cornerback.

1084
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: And what about the trickle down effect of the other

1085
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 3: receivers too, Guys that are now getting favorable coverage or

1086
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: you know, a guy like Pop Douglas, who look, he's

1087
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: tough to cover man, so he's getting less coverage and

1088
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: Digs is pulling some of it.

1089
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 6: It's you know, some of these other guys might blossom.

1090
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: And you know, from what we've heard from Frable, his

1091
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: expectations very much like Belichick, where the train's not stopping

1092
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: if you miss practice, if you're out with an injury,

1093
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, that's too bad, but we're not holding up

1094
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: the train for anybody.

1095
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: So you're gonna be behind if you miss practices.

1096
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: You know, this summer, it's a thing to keep an

1097
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 3: eye on with the rookies.

1098
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 6: I do it every year.

1099
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: Guys that suddenly can't practice and you just get behind

1100
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: that eight ball. And I'm sure you guys can speak

1101
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: to it even better than I can. Of you know,

1102
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: rookies who just got hurt in their first training camp

1103
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: and then they just never found a stride in their career.

1104
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 6: It happened.

1105
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 3: So hopefully that rookie class, especially some of the new guys,

1106
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: can stay healthy throughout camp and be able to, you know,

1107
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 3: just build that foundation, because it's tough, man, you missed practice,

1108
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: It's it's really tough missing a week of camp.

1109
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 4: Practice was like missing a month.

1110
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it.

1111
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: They just they do a lot. There's a lot that's

1112
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 4: covered and if you miss it, it's it's hard to

1113
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: especially as a young player. Like you said, Jared Wilson,

1114
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: another guy that we didn't see a lot of in

1115
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 4: the spring.

1116
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: He's out there.

1117
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 5: He's got his uniform as you know, not on.

1118
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 4: Any of the lists. So another good sign. Hopefully we'll

1119
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 4: get to see a full camp from the roof.

1120
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 5: He was who I was going to bring up was

1121
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 5: Jared Wilson because especially as a center, that's a very

1122
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 5: you know, between the years type of position. So if

1123
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 5: he's going to push Garrett Bradbury at some point for

1124
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 5: playing time as a rookie at center, then he's going

1125
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 5: to this time of year is extremely important for that position,

1126
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 5: you know, quarterback centers like that's that's huge. So I

1127
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 5: would love to see Jared Wilson out there because you know, Fred,

1128
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 5: you asked, what's the one mystery right now? The interior

1129
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 5: offensive line is a big question. We'll see what will

1130
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 5: Campbell and Morgan Moses do at tackle, but they're going

1131
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 5: to be the tackles. Like there's no questions about the

1132
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 5: left tackle and the right tackle or the right guard

1133
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 5: for that matter, but left guard and center are two

1134
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 5: spots that they need to figure out one hundred percent

1135
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 5: is it going to be Brad Berry? Who is it

1136
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 5: going to be? Out of all the options they have

1137
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 5: at left guard. In order to get this going, they

1138
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: got to protect the quarterback. It's got to start there.

1139
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: So you you mentioned when you're sorry, Fred, but I

1140
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: just think them when you and Kyle dug are two

1141
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: super interesting players, guys that signed you know, big extensions

1142
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: last year. Dugger banged up clearly last year struggled, but

1143
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: was a little bit of a guy that took a

1144
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 3: lot of flak for playing through injury, so you got

1145
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: to give him some credit. But still, as we all know,

1146
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: it matters what you do on the field. And you know,

1147
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 3: for all the offensive line questions that we've talked about

1148
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: all off season and into last year, but Michael, when

1149
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 3: you was one of the highest play paid player on

1150
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 3: your team, you need him to step up and be

1151
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: a guy that you can really count on at that

1152
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: right guard position. Talk about the questions in offensive line,

1153
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: it's like you'd love to be able to say, well,

1154
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 3: we know we got the right guard locked in and

1155
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 3: so hopefully he can bounce back have a really good season.

1156
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: I don't know schematically what Josh is going to do.

1157
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: Maybe it fits him a little better what he did

1158
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: earlier in his career under Josh, but that's off to watch.

1159
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: And as we go over the various topics of conversation,

1160
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: a guy that he's always been kind of a mystery

1161
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: since he's been here, Marty Mapu, Yeah, lineback, what do

1162
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: you think his twenty twenty five could look like if

1163
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: things work out?

1164
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: If things work out, that's a great question for a.

1165
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 5: Third down coverage lineback.

1166
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good way.

1167
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: It could be a guy that you know, we're talked

1168
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 4: about Tobay a little bit, had some of that versatility.

1169
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 4: He could take a role like that if something happens

1170
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 4: to Spellane. You know, I agree with Evan. I like

1171
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 4: his skill set. Maybe in a third down situation, I

1172
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 4: think he could betty pretty action way means business.

1173
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1174
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 5: Mapa is interesting to me because I feel like early

1175
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 5: on in his career he tried to be a jack

1176
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 5: of all trades, Like he tried to learn safety, he

1177
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 5: tried to learn linebacker. At what point he was trying

1178
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 5: to call the defense and wear the green dot. And

1179
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 5: he was a young player in the league and an

1180
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 5: experienced player, so I would love to see them just

1181
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 5: focus on this is one package that we want you

1182
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 5: to master. This is one role we want you to master,

1183
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 5: and then maybe we can expand upon it once he

1184
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 5: masters that one thing. But he, in my opinion, just

1185
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 5: had his hand in too many pots, like he was

1186
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 5: trying to take on too much as a young player.

1187
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 5: So maybe it's past, you know, game linebacker, third down linebacker.

1188
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 5: He's kind of a safety body type, so he can

1189
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: play linebacker spots and play those underneath zones and cover

1190
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 5: running backs and like do that sort of thing that's

1191
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 5: maybe a little bit too high stress for a true

1192
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 5: linebacker like a spelane or like a tabai, And maybe

1193
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 5: that's a role for him. Obviously he's gonna have to

1194
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 5: play in the kicking game too, if that's his path

1195
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 5: to the roster. But him switching to linebacker tells me

1196
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 5: that they have something in mind. But I just hope

1197
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 5: it's a little bit more honed in and not as

1198
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 5: broad as what his first company.

1199
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: I hope it's not just this is the last try

1200
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: to figure out if he can, if he can play

1201
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 3: at this level, and I mean, I just there's a

1202
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 3: part of me just wondering does he fit next to

1203
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: splaying consistently? Like is there is that crazy to say

1204
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 3: a guy who has some size but also can run

1205
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: a little bit better maybe than you know, somebody like

1206
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: to buy a kid. So I agree without how Evan

1207
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: laid it out. But interesting guys really smart. I mean

1208
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 3: last year he jumped in and played like a whole

1209
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 3: game after missing like a month and a half. He's

1210
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 3: won though for sure, injuries have killed him in training

1211
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 3: camp the last two years, and that's put him behind

1212
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: the eight ball as much as anything. So stay healthy

1213
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: and maybe you have a chance.

1214
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: Speaking of catching up, Terrell Williams missed pretty much all

1215
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: the spring in terms of being here. I know that

1216
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: he was staying in contact, you know, via zoom or whatever,

1217
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: but he wasn't here, so we have a sense of

1218
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: where he's at in terms of coordinating this defense.

1219
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 6: Well clearly has.

1220
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel's trust, and I think you know, like you said,

1221
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 3: he was on zoombs and you know they said he's

1222
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: still around the team, He's just not physically around the team.

1223
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm hopeful that this provides a team

1224
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: just a little fresh boost as we go into camp.

1225
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: I think all the installation stuff and the teaching stuff

1226
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: that happens in ot is in mini camp. It's not

1227
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: the end of the world that your defensive coordinator wasn't here.

1228
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 3: Thanks to you know, Zach Kerr, who's another guy who's

1229
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: been movable before and understands the defense, was able to

1230
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: you know, fill in on field stuff. So, uh, I'm

1231
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: excited just to see what's his presence, Like everybody talks about,

1232
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 3: you know, how he makes an impact across the roster

1233
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: and you know, guys really seem to respond to him.

1234
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: So what's his energy, Like, how does he fit in

1235
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: out there? Some of the watch today for sure.

1236
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got guts a lot of for people around here,

1237
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 5: like Romeo Credell type comparisons, where his motivation and his

1238
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 5: ability to connect with players is a big part of

1239
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 5: what makes him a great coach. But I'm interested to

1240
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 5: see him calling plays because he hasn't really done that before.

1241
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 5: He's gonna call plays. He's going to call the defense

1242
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 5: this year for the Patriots, and I mean he's had

1243
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 5: he had a time on his resumes. It's not like

1244
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 5: he doesn't have the experience to do it, but he

1245
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: hasn't been the primary play caller I don't believe in

1246
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 5: yet in his h his coaching career. So how does

1247
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 5: that work? You know, how does he call plays? What's

1248
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 5: his sort of rhythm to That is going to be

1249
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 5: something we won't see till the games, and probably not

1250
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 5: till the regular season, to be honest, But it'll be

1251
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,479
Speaker 5: interesting to see how that all shapes out. Because Raybel

1252
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 5: wants to be a CEO. I don't think he wants

1253
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 5: to have to call plays or do any of that.

1254
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 5: So even though he's had experience doing it, I think

1255
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 5: he really wants to pass the buck on that. So

1256
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 5: we'll see how.

1257
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: It's good to go with the camp knowing everybody's role.

1258
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I remember two years ago, maybe it was three,

1259
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: I forget, but we were, you know, all mini camp

1260
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: and training camp was all about who's got the headset

1261
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: to talking.

1262
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 2: We had no idea.

1263
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, no, that was I mean, and then

1264
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: you're watching some of us thought that might be an

1265
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 3: issue heading into that.

1266
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: It'll be fine, it'll be fine.

1267
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 3: Well you know for me, I mean that was my

1268
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 3: I guess third training camp that I watched beginning to end.

1269
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: So you know, every trainy camp you learned something new.

1270
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 3: But after these last few camps, it's now.

1271
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 6: Just jarring to me.

1272
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: That camp with you know, Matt Patricia trying to be

1273
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator to coach the offensive line. I mean,

1274
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: it was just there was just so much going on.

1275
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, whatever, twenty twenty two, we're twenty twenty five.

1276
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 3: Now we got a whole new team and I don't

1277
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: want to think about it.

1278
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 4: We opened up broadcast with the things that we're excited about,

1279
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: and we're all talking about the renewed energy, daff and

1280
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: that's where it stems from. It is the coaching staff.

1281
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 4: There was Mike Rabel and then his ability to to

1282
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 4: bring in some experienced coaches that have done last year.

1283
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 4: How many different guys did we talk about and say,

1284
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 4: it's the first time Mike Deschau has ever been calling plays, Right,

1285
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 4: everyone Lazar has ever been in charge of a position group. Right,

1286
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 4: There's none of that this year. You have a bunch

1287
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 4: of guys that have been there and done that. There's

1288
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 4: no first time play callers on offense. Yes, we have

1289
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: the Terrelle Williams situation on defense, but he's been around

1290
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 4: the defense a lot. He's I think the Romeo Crenell

1291
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 4: comparison that Evan had I thought was really good. His

1292
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: reputation is a tea. I think his is really strong

1293
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 4: and a guy that has really impacted a lot of plays.

1294
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 4: And yes, he's never called plays, but he has been

1295
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 4: in that role before as a defensive and.

1296
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: Ken White just pretty much said it they didn't have

1297
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: a lot of good coaching last year.

1298
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: I mean he didn't say those exact words, but that's

1299
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 2: what he meant.

1300
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's just interesting to less so about being

1301
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 5: concerned if he can do it and more about like

1302
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 5: starting to learn a little bit about his tendencies and

1303
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 5: like his flavor of defense. You know, is he a

1304
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 5: pressure guy? Is he a coverage guy?

1305
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 3: You know?

1306
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 5: Are they going to play a lot of four down fronts?

1307
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 5: Like everybody anticipates, like what are they going to look like?

1308
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 5: You know on third down really is the big one

1309
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 5: in terms of scheme and all that stuff. But it'll

1310
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 5: be fascinating to see where they take that in that direction.

1311
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 5: But going to move it over to the offense too.

1312
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 5: I just every day I get a little bit more

1313
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 5: excited about seeing what Josh McDaniels has in store for

1314
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 5: Drake May. I just think that that's such a it's

1315
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: a great pairing, it's a really good hire. It's somebody

1316
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 5: that we would for In Foxborough. They talked so much

1317
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 5: about that. Josh is a master of this playbook, like

1318
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 5: he knows it inside and out, and there's not going

1319
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 5: to be any uncertainty of how he's teaching Drake and

1320
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 5: how he's coaching Drake. So I'm excited to see what

1321
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 5: they do schematically with a quarterback that really everything is

1322
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 5: on the table. You can do anything you want with

1323
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 5: Drake May. There's nothing that's off limits from a physical standpoint,

1324
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 5: So it'll be cool to have McDaniels in that type

1325
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 5: of world.

1326
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: Yep, crowds kind of filling in.

1327
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: I was a little worried at the beginning because there

1328
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: weren't a lot of people lined up, But now that

1329
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: practice is, you know, getting ready to start full swing.

1330
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: I see the hills filled up, the bleachers are pretty

1331
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: much filled up. You know, people could switch in and

1332
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: make more space, but it's.

1333
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 5: A it's a pretty good crowd.

1334
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 3: Pretty good crowd.

1335
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: You know, back in the day, look at me, you know,

1336
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: you know when Tom Brady was here, it was it

1337
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: was a whole different thing because people came to see him.

1338
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: You came to see greatness, uh, particularly in you know

1339
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: the later half. Uh you know, so literal people would

1340
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: come and be at the gate floor in the morning

1341
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: to you know, have a chance to be in.

1342
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: People were though, but that was all Tom Brady.

1343
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1344
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well Randy Moss too. I'm sure you know the

1345
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: Hall of Famers came through.

1346
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 6: But you're totally right.

1347
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 3: And I mean I still think, no matter what team

1348
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: they're rolling out there, that this is just a great

1349
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: take for a family middle of the summer looking for

1350
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: something to do, entertainment for the kids.

1351
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 6: You're right there. I mean it's free.

1352
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 4: Just as a parent who spent puppies.

1353
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: There's puppies now, I mean you spent a lot of

1354
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: time figuring out what am I do with the kids today?

1355
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 3: Come down to Foxborough. It's a it's a great time.

1356
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: And now with Joy Practices and Drake May and Stefan

1357
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: Diggs and Williams and Christian Barmore and you know, you're

1358
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 3: starting to build some of those names that are a

1359
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 3: little bit more of a draw.

1360
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dukes came for money, So he sat around thinking

1361
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 4: what am I going to do with the kids to that?

1362
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at work.

1363
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 5: My wife was at work.

1364
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,959
Speaker 4: Didn't sit around wondering what we're going to do with kids.

1365
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: But Mike just so comes from a different place.

1366
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm surprised.

1367
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 4: That's why I'm glad he's allowing us to be just

1368
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 4: to send him.

1369
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: To some summer camp.

1370
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, that's well, that's what we did.

1371
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 4: Well, that's what one of them is this week.

1372
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the three nannies usually do something with

1373
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 3: you know, and I just getting in my daily massage.

1374
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: Of course he had money on that side of the

1375
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: Take them, take them to the training camp. That will

1376
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: be fun and clap my hands in it.

1377
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 5: Got some dogs coming up here, now, Polly, just for you.

1378
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: What do we got?

1379
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: Oh?

1380
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: We do?

1381
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 5: I think they might have just adopted this.

1382
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: We're getting a parallel.

1383
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 6: Oh man, I don't know about that.

1384
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 3: You got shirt?

1385
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 7: Dad?

1386
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: Please?

1387
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 5: What's the worst that could happen to?

1388
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 7: Dad?

1389
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 3: Right, it's always it's going to be the.

1390
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 4: The start of practice.

1391
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 6: We got dogs opera coming right through.

1392
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at this guy, Look at you. Oh you're

1393
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: a good boy. You're a good boy. It looks like

1394
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: he wants to bite my calf. Right now, look all

1395
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: these good dogs. Look at all these good dogs.

1396
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 6: I gotta get my dog at Patriots jersey.

1397
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: That's that's pretty cool, Alice.

1398
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 4: You do not have a Patriots jersey for your dog yet.

1399
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 6: Not yet, but I will.

1400
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: Don't worry.

1401
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 6: I'm a little mad at him after the last couple

1402
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 6: of days.

1403
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 5: I really can't believe that you don't have him decked

1404
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 5: out in Pat's garb.

1405
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: Well, I'm hoping to get him in the Patriot, the

1406
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: Patriots on patriots dot com. So maybe pull some strings,

1407
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 3: maybe we get him on the on the website.

1408
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 6: That'd be pretty cool.

1409
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: How he wants to dress him up like a shark.

1410
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 4: Chase me, chase me our shot.

1411
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 5: I'm playing.

1412
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: So we'll we'll get the cameras turned down to the

1413
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: field as soon as we can. There's certain portions of

1414
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: the practice that we're not allowed to show live. So

1415
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: if you're wondering why are we listening and watching these guys,

1416
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: and then why aren't we watching the field, Because like

1417
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: I said, there's certain portions that we're allowed to film

1418
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: other portions that we're not, and this.

1419
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 4: Is one we're not allowed to film.

1420
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1421
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: Well, but Paul likes to say, and it's it's so

1422
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: true this you know, these shirt two days really in

1423
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: a extension of OTAs. You know, it's not it doesn't

1424
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: feel like training camp quite yet. Monday, it'll start to

1425
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 3: feel like training camp.

1426
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: Wait till the stats come out later, tell a different story.

1427
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 5: Still have fifteen takeaways.

1428
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I'm going to have them. Yeah,

1429
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 4: but you know, I'm not.

1430
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 5: Going to tell you that today is a lot of

1431
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 5: procedural stuff. Who's out there, who's full go? You know,

1432
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 5: it's not a whole lot Leave with the dogs, Leave

1433
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 5: with the dogs football takeaways.

1434
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: I'd like to catch a glimpse of heroes. I haven't.

1435
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: I haven't laid eyes on him yet, but it's another one.

1436
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 3: I mean interesting to watch as a coordinator. You know,

1437
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 3: where does he spend his time? I mean he's obviously

1438
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: comfortable with the defensive line. That was the prosion group

1439
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: that he that he coached and that he's you know,

1440
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: really known for. But you see him hovering with the

1441
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 3: cornerbacks at all defense, you know, linebackers, that kind of stuff.

1442
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: See what kind of his style is?

1443
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: People emailing in podcasts at patriots dot com mostly about dogs.

1444
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: Uh Bowood, Rhode Island, taking issue with Evan out labs.

1445
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: Labs are not low energy. Their owners are just lazy laps,

1446
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: I think, or they get overweight.

1447
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 4: I think that's why Evan was suggesting I get a

1448
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 4: lab because owners are lazy.

1449
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 5: Listen, I'll.

1450
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: Ryan and Bates says Paul's future dog should be a beagle.

1451
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: They're rarely quiet, don't care if no one else is

1452
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: listening to them, whine and howl at about nothing.

1453
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1454
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 4: It seems fair.

1455
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1456
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 3: Uh s bought an advisor down there on the on

1457
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 3: the sidelines there was it, a big one with with

1458
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: a very little velcrow to spare large and a rubber

1459
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah that's a hard thing to say, rubber wedding ring.

1460
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,959
Speaker 3: I have to say, that's kind of like that. Sure

1461
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: there's an and is he on the show?

1462
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: Uh?

1463
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I think a takeaway too from the spring

1464
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: was just the temple of the practice. You know, guys

1465
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: sprinting a lot. There weren't a lot of conditioning. It

1466
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 3: seems like Rabel is one of the guys run during practice.

1467
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: It's funny that you brought that up, Mike, Dad, what

1468
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: are we doing. I actually asked Mike about that. He did,

1469
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 3: and that's exactly how he you know, the way we

1470
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: talked about it.

1471
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 4: I think at the time, if you're working at practice,

1472
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 4: you should be getting you running in that practice. There's

1473
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 4: no need for extra conditioning. That's why we do everything

1474
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 4: and the tempo that we do. So I think when

1475
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: we see them doing, you know, maybe devoting a little

1476
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 4: extra time to conditioning, which they will, it's not going

1477
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 4: to be. But I think that will be part of

1478
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 4: the plan. And I think that another part of the plan.

1479
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 4: It's not like I think people will, well, oh jeez,

1480
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 4: Rabel's being easy on him.

1481
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 3: They didn't run the hill today.

1482
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 4: I don't think that's going to.

1483
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: Be the case.

1484
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 5: I think that means that he had more running built

1485
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 5: into the practice.

1486
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah he, I mean he, like Paul said, he mentioned

1487
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 1: that that's the way he runs his practice. You know,

1488
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: he runs it like a game. Plays over it, get

1489
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: back to the huddle. We're going to do the next play.

1490
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: There's not going to be a lot of downtime between

1491
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: plays in periods.

1492
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 3: I just hope that hill doesn't get lonely over there,

1493
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 3: because it's a you know, oh.

1494
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll be out there. Yeah.

1495
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: I think I saw a practice plan for today, and

1496
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: I think I saw condigtional hills all right at the end.

1497
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: But but as you get further into the summary, I

1498
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: think you're going to see less of that. Guys should

1499
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: be in shape.

1500
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean to Paul's point that you brought

1501
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: U yesterday. Guys start to get banged up a little bit.

1502
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 3: You don't need to you don't need to go too

1503
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 3: crazy and push it. Oh, we got a split box

1504
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: to look at that.

1505
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, the funds, the funds on the right, some lockthroughs

1506
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 5: right now.

1507
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, except to say you're looking over there for attendance, Mike,

1508
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 3: I didn't touched a single one.

1509
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 6: I would you, guys, because I.

1510
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 4: It was the last thing I said that I needed

1511
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 4: to help with.

1512
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 6: I got an audio service thing right here.

1513
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: That's really blocking.

1514
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 4: Figure.

1515
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 6: You got the perch, Paul, you're nothing.

1516
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 2: But excuse the guys who are here are here.

1517
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 6: Right, I think everybody except for the n f I

1518
01:04:58,920 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 6: pup guys.

1519
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 4: There's a handful of guys I don't have. That doesn't

1520
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 4: mean they're not here.

1521
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 6: Okay, we'll get that to you.

1522
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 4: Will effort that later.

1523
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: Drake mays here, that's all I care about.

1524
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 3: Drake mill Williams. You got Steph Dicks.

1525
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 4: You make fun of me all the time when I

1526
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 4: say things like that, but you say the same thing.

1527
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: Well, now it's a whole new thing.

1528
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 4: Because about you know, like your team is, you know,

1529
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 4: new regime.

1530
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna lead Mike Able to button things up. We

1531
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: don't have to do the buttoning up anymore. I like it,

1532
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: you know that.

1533
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 9: I like it.

1534
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: I like it.

1535
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 5: Freddy Mike were Abel worry about the blocking and the

1536
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, and you guys will worry about.

1537
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 4: The Mike Felger says, you do that on your own time,

1538
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 4: and we'll worry about what win's football stapticks.

1539
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 5: You guys can do that on right, all right.

1540
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 3: So that Rable quote yesterday where they talked about their

1541
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 3: film review and they put it into buckets, which was

1542
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: the good, the bad, and.

1543
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 4: The sleep that will get your beat?

1544
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: Now, what's the difference between the bad and the stuff

1545
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 3: that will get your beat?

1546
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 4: So that's just like a bad play, Like you know,

1547
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 4: maybe you drop a pass or or whatever, but you

1548
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 4: know the bleep that will get your beat is I

1549
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 4: don't know, fifteen fall start penalties in a practice, I've

1550
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 4: missed assignment that gets your quarterback lit.

1551
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 5: Up, letting the ball go over your head as a safety.

1552
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1553
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, maybe the DK Metcalf play and

1554
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 4: that's the bleep that will get your beat. Yeah, yeah,

1555
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 4: and you can fix it. Doesn't take talent to know

1556
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 4: your assignments to stay on side.

1557
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: Those kinds of things kind of more than dumb. Do

1558
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: you remember the three pillars? The three pillars for camp cancel,

1559
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: build a team that's number one, find a role, Yeah,

1560
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: prepare to win. Oh, I wrote it down just in

1561
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 3: case Pray will ever quizzes me on and I'm ready

1562
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 3: to go.

1563
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 5: I did like I did like his three buckets for

1564
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 5: the film though, I that's a that's a good one,

1565
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 5: you know, way to live in the film.

1566
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 6: Maybe put that in your film reviews.

1567
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 5: Maybe after further review will be what were those buckets?

1568
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 3: I think the stuff that they get I see, yeah, yeah,

1569
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: maybe that's going to be the new.

1570
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 6: Stuff that get you beat might be a little sparse,

1571
01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 6: but that's fine, you know.

1572
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 5: I don't talk too much about that, but I.

1573
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: Think going back to the three pillars for camp goals,

1574
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: I think he really kind of the goal there was

1575
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: just to narrow it down to just the basic you know,

1576
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: we're here to build a team.

1577
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: You know, you need to you know, find your role,

1578
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: who are you? How do I fit into this team?

1579
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: And then prepare to win.

1580
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 6: I mean, to avoid the stupid mistakes that get to

1581
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 6: beat those kind of things. Yeah, I mean it's now.

1582
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 6: I thought a lot of what Frable was said.

1583
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he always goes back to teaching for him

1584
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: and I think you know, a thing that made Bill

1585
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 3: Belichick great players often said that he could just really

1586
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: simplify things and say, you know, these are the few

1587
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: things we need to focus on, and you can't do

1588
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 3: everything as a head coach, so you really have to

1589
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 3: break it down what's important to.

1590
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 6: Me to establish.

1591
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: Frankly, he got that from Belichick. Belichick that I thought

1592
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: that was one of his secret weapons, was how he

1593
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: was able to take things and just simplify it and

1594
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: make it absolutely teachable.

1595
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: I've heard it from too many players to not know

1596
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: that that's the fact and.

1597
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 3: Also have the knowledge to like look at an opponent

1598
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: and say this is the key.

1599
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: But whatever it is, he was able to just travel.

1600
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: He was able to just break it down whatever it was.

1601
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: That's why I think he could be the CEO of

1602
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: any compat.

1603
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 6: Then that's probably Ernie too.

1604
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 3: I mean Ernie probably has that ability already watch a

1605
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: team and say this is the loose brick and if

1606
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 3: we pull this one out, the whole thing is going

1607
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 3: to collapse.

1608
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1609
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 4: I just continue to that, you know, one the other

1610
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:30,520
Speaker 4: team's plays.

1611
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 5: Impressed by uh you know they were talking to Rabel

1612
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 5: and his press conference this morning about uh Doc Jim

1613
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 5: Whalen and you know, the medical stuff, and like he

1614
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 5: has an answer to that, like he had he has

1615
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 5: knowledge about, you know, how they're going to rehab players

1616
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 5: and injuries and where the players are going to go

1617
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,719
Speaker 5: if they need an MRI, and like all these little

1618
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 5: things that he has an actual idea of how they're

1619
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 5: going to implement those things, whereas I think a lot

1620
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 5: of other coaches would have just said.

1621
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 4: That's one thing that's really stood out to me about

1622
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: Mike from the introductory press conference, and he's mentioned things

1623
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: like that many times. It's his stressing of the importance

1624
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 4: of everybody on his team knowing everybody in the building.

1625
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 4: Get to know these people, the people that are in

1626
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 4: the cafeteria, the people that are taking care of you,

1627
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 4: the parking people, the medical status. Like that's what I

1628
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 4: don't remember a lot of coaches talking. And it wasn't

1629
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 4: lip service in my opinion, because he said it so

1630
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 4: many different ways and so many different times. We heard

1631
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 4: some of the stuff and forged about the first meeting.

1632
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 4: He talked to them about the importance of treating these

1633
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 4: people properly, with respect and getting to know them. And

1634
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 4: I think that's an example of it that Evan just.

1635
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 5: Talked about with the doctors medical different electrician.

1636
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 2: Bill was like, stay away from.

1637
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 5: Sports side all of it. Like he has you know,

1638
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 5: analytics like scouting coach, yeah, practice schedules, like he has

1639
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 5: his hand in all of it, and like has things

1640
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 5: to offer in terms of knowledge to all of it.

1641
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 5: It's impressive.

1642
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: So as you can see, cameras are back on the

1643
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: field and that's May front and center.

1644
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: That's a bit stretching right now.

1645
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: Hey, Fred, you know what I have to point out too.

1646
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the new football facility from this angle

1647
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 3: in a little while, and it's coming together.

1648
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 4: It's definitely nicely. Yeah, you can see it like now,

1649
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 4: like you you know, you take a random Friday off

1650
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 4: and you come back after a long weekend, you're like, whoa, Yeah,

1651
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: there's a lot of changing in three days.

1652
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: It's amazing how fast they can get things done when

1653
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 1: you don't. You know, when guys, you know, the crew's

1654
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: there and I can't get somebody to mow my law,

1655
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, and and they're putting up this building.

1656
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 4: Somebody's get off your as on yourself.

1657
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 5: If I had to tie, I actually enjoy it.

1658
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: We we've been through this. We're not going to get

1659
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: into you.

1660
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: I like, but.

1661
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 2: This facility is gonna slated to be open in April

1662
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty.

1663
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 5: Six and might need it.

1664
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: It's coming, you know, like what year to build this thing.

1665
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 5: That's unbelieve.

1666
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 6: I am underground parking.

1667
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 3: I know. It was a huge thing, state of the

1668
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: art treatment facility. It walks right out onto the practice barbershop.

1669
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 5: Barbershop, Uh yeah, polo right because we come even in

1670
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 5: the off season, which we work here, so we're here

1671
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 5: and every week you come back in a little bit

1672
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 5: more is done and a little bit more is done.

1673
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 5: So it is crazy to watch it in real time

1674
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 5: going up and it's I mean the outside structure is

1675
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 5: done right, I mean they're really just working on the

1676
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 5: inside at this point.

1677
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's funny how it all came together because I

1678
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: know this has been in the works for a long time,

1679
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: and now you know, Mike Rabil comes here and now

1680
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 3: he gets his team just gets the benefit from you know, hey,

1681
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: it's already in the pipeline. Mike here comes, you know,

1682
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 3: so it'd be great for the team next year when

1683
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 3: they're able to move.

1684
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: And I know that Rabel and his staff have been

1685
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: involved in, you know, planning it out the inside of it.

1686
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, what's important in the meeting rooms. What av

1687
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,480
Speaker 1: do they need, what do they want, what's the latest technology?

1688
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: How big the lockers should be, for example, I guess

1689
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: they're calling them custom lockers.

1690
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 2: You know they're customized. So uh yeah, I'm I'm excited

1691
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: to see it. I'm not even gonna be working it.

1692
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 5: There's your boy, a lot of Gabriel and forged you

1693
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 5: know this.

1694
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 6: I think is he talking to it. I think he's

1695
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 6: talking today.

1696
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 3: Maybe I think he is. Yeah, just you know, instaid

1697
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 3: this off. He's like, I've never had a winning season

1698
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 3: and it never really occurred to me. And it's like, man,

1699
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 3: that guy, you can pick him, you know, the guy

1700
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 3: his first round pick, really highly touted and you know

1701
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 3: Cleveland and Giants, and you know, he's kind of kicked

1702
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 3: around a little bit. He's had off the field issues

1703
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 3: last year that you know, derailed them. But he's a

1704
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: guy that just plays the way that verybel wants these

1705
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: guys to play.

1706
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 6: And that's why, you know, or some question, how does

1707
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 6: you know, how do the old guys fit.

1708
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,640
Speaker 3: Into this new rosters? We were first getting going, and

1709
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 3: I just could never rule out Gabril Peppers. You see

1710
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: him breaking down the huddle. Uh, you know, he's definitely

1711
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 3: emerged as a leader on this team and oh ras

1712
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 3: gotta had on and so yeah, I'm hopeful that just

1713
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 3: how much would mean for Jabil Peppers to get back

1714
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 3: on track to play a full season and maybe make

1715
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: the playoffs. I mean, he just it's all there for

1716
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 3: him to have, you know, the most satisfying season of

1717
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 3: his career.

1718
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 6: If this team's able to put it together.

1719
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, after last season, which was frankly not very good

1720
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 5: for either Kyle Duggar Jabriel Peppers, we kind of forget

1721
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 5: that two years ago it was one of the better

1722
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 5: safety tandems in the NFL, and you know, on all

1723
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 5: those lists that come out this time of year, they're

1724
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 5: ranking them both, you know, pretty high as a tandem individually,

1725
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 5: and there was once upon a time where they were

1726
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 5: looked at as as really good players and had good

1727
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 5: I agree with that.

1728
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 4: Are you a little surprised the amount of criticism Dugger

1729
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 4: has taken in this this offseason? I know, I'm not

1730
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 4: trying to tell you we had a great year.

1731
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people. Yeah, I think a

1732
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 5: lot of people were already a little bit out on

1733
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 5: the coverage ability to begin with, and then when he

1734
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 5: had the year that he had last year where that

1735
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 5: was really I think people have ignored the fact that

1736
01:13:59,080 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 5: he played her.

1737
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to make excuses for him.

1738
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1739
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 4: I have been one that's been.

1740
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 5: Critical of his coverage ability in the past.

1741
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 4: So I'm not trying to tell you, oh, now I'm

1742
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 4: going to change because I'm being contrarian. That's not what

1743
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do. I thought it was clear that

1744
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 4: he played at well below one hundred percent last year. Yeah,

1745
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 4: he was not moving at all, and I think it's

1746
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 4: now chocked up that he can't play and he could

1747
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 4: get he's going.

1748
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 3: To get cut.

1749
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think he got lumped into the guys they

1750
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: brought back.

1751
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 3: But I would say, Paul, I think you're totally right.

1752
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: But I think part of the reason is because there

1753
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 3: are a lot of very glaring plays last year for him.

1754
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 3: Oh you mentioned already the DK metcalf one Miami game

1755
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 3: at Miami was a train wreck. So and so a

1756
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 3: common fan is watching that and being like, even I

1757
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 3: can see you know, and who knows for sure if

1758
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: you're right based on what the coverage is. But I

1759
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 3: think it was obvious for even the casuals that he

1760
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: was having a tough year and that's why. And you're right,

1761
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 3: people are overlooking the fact that he was really playing

1762
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 3: through a serious injury that needed surgery in the off season.

1763
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 3: So again him and on when you just got is

1764
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 3: that a little bit part of the old regime?

1765
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 4: Can they? But I haven't heard that criticism of a Winu. Yeah, happened,

1766
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 4: and he had a bad year. He did, and just

1767
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 4: because he was the best lineman on a terrible offensive

1768
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 4: line doesn't mean he played well.

1769
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1770
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 4: I mean I haven't really heard any of that with

1771
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 4: a Wnu other than here on our show we talk

1772
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 4: about it.

1773
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tommy Current talk a little bit about it. I mean,

1774
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think any time you just

1775
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 3: look at the salaries of the guys and you just highlight,

1776
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 3: all right, these are the taps.

1777
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 4: Of stands out to me. Yeah, the guys that are

1778
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 4: making good money that they didn't get didn't get that

1779
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 4: money from this regime. To the guys that are unnoticed.

1780
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 5: Especially you know, if on when new is going to

1781
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 5: play guard, like if he's and I think he should,

1782
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 5: but now he's an eighteen million dollar guard, you know

1783
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 5: that that needs to be a Pro Bowl caliber player

1784
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 5: at that number for that position. But Duggar, I just wonder,

1785
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 5: is there is there more consistency to his game, Like

1786
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 5: does he have that in him or is he always

1787
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 5: going to just kind of be a splash player that's

1788
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 5: going to have some boom. It's going to have some

1789
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 5: bus a couple of years ago when he's has picked

1790
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 5: sixes and things like that, then you lived with some

1791
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 5: of the plays where he's not in the right position

1792
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 5: all the time.

1793
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 4: That's why I thought it was so clear that he

1794
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 4: was playing below one hundred percent because he had that

1795
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 4: explosiveness that the picked off Derek Carr screen pass against

1796
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 4: the Raiders, you know, like that's just like scoop and score.

1797
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 4: I don't think I think he could have diagnosed that

1798
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 4: play every bit as quickly last year and wouldn't have

1799
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 4: been able to make it. Basically, wouldn't have been there.

1800
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 4: And I'm not telling you he's a great player. I

1801
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 4: think if you go back to all those splash plays

1802
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 4: that he made and was I think twenty one and

1803
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 4: twenty two and a little bit, you know, in twenty three,

1804
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 4: I think there's an element that he was a little

1805
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 4: over rated. But I don't think he is as bad

1806
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 4: a player as he was last year. I think the

1807
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 4: criticism is sort of ignoring all those plays that he

1808
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 4: made the previous couple of seasons.

1809
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 3: You wonder if if Craig Woodson's got anything in the tank.

1810
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 3: I mean, we talk about the Darron Harmon you know role,

1811
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 3: Devin Cordy role, and I think that you might have

1812
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 3: been when Dugger was at his best, when Devin mccordy

1813
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 3: was here, and you could just kind of play with Dougger.

1814
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to worry about getting beat over the top.

1815
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 3: But you know, is there a scenario where by the

1816
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 3: end of the year it's just Dugger or Pepper's with

1817
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 3: a Craig Woodson and it's a little bit more conventional

1818
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 3: where you have a free safety and a strong safety

1819
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 3: and you know, I know teams now want to have

1820
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 3: guys go down and up and you know, have that

1821
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: versatility and not be so rigid with your safety roles.

1822
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if there's a guy with

1823
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 3: some really good range, it might balance out your defense

1824
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 3: a little bit. So, I mean, we'll see.

1825
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 4: Whitson's reputation for being a cerebral safety is just gets

1826
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,480
Speaker 4: another guy with a lot of college experience.

1827
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 5: Gets everybody in the right spot in their natural spots.

1828
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 5: And I think that's big for Dougger. He's the type

1829
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 5: of player that you got to get him in the

1830
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 5: right roles. Like if you're going to have him play

1831
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 5: a lot in space, if you're going to have him

1832
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 5: play far off the line of scrimmage in the deep

1833
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 5: part of the field, like that's really not a strength

1834
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 5: of his. So if you can get him into the

1835
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 5: right spots and then the cam, you know, he can

1836
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 5: be a really good player for them. What'son's a good

1837
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 5: chot Like if Wotson can be that guy, you know

1838
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 5: when they play dime on third down, they're gonna have

1839
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 5: six defensive backs, Like, is it those three guys in

1840
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 5: the safeties And I'm hoping, I'm hoping it's those three together.

1841
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 6: That's what's interesting to me is just what do the

1842
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 6: sub packages look like?

1843
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 3: And I think we have a pretty good sense of

1844
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 3: you know, just what they're probably like four, two, five,

1845
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: bas Nickel will be. But you know when they get

1846
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 3: into the different dime packages, are there going to be

1847
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 3: here we go sprint Brable leading the way you saw Mike.

1848
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 4: Together.

1849
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, just setting the tone.

1850
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 4: What do you think that message is?

1851
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 5: Ready?

1852
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, being a veteran of thirty plus camps,

1853
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 4: what do you think the message was for?

1854
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: Take care of each other?

1855
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: Take care of each other, stay up, you know that

1856
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: type of thing. Let's be alert, head on a swivel.

1857
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 4: I might I might have a pad anyway, right, you

1858
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 4: know it.

1859
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 2: Starts today and there it is Paul on.

1860
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 3: They literally hand him the pad as you say that,

1861
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 3: he's such a hard I love it.

1862
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 5: I love it.

1863
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 4: Andy Hart goes to bed every night and just says,

1864
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:57,839
Speaker 4: don't want to be migrat.

1865
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,839
Speaker 5: I just that's football, right, Like, let's get in the trenches.

1866
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 5: Let's get on when it with Moses on a double

1867
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 5: team and let's move some bodies. You know, that's Mike

1868
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 5: Rabel's mindset, and I love it.

1869
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1870
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 4: I like to listening to him talk about that kind

1871
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 4: of stuff that before you came to the show, Mike

1872
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 4: and I were talking about that. It was late in

1873
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 4: the press garments when he talked about one of the

1874
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 4: things he gets most excited about is when a guy

1875
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 4: sort of surprises him with his physicality once the pats

1876
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 4: come on, his ability to maybe break tackles, or his

1877
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 4: contact balance, or his ability to shed a block. And

1878
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 4: every year he says, there's guys that surprise him.

1879
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 6: I just gave a nice uh yeah the camp. Welcome

1880
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 6: to Camp Rabel.

1881
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 3: But you know, looking at to By, there too, no

1882
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 3: wrap on his leg or anything, jumping right into these

1883
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 3: these drills here that they're doing so good sign for him.

1884
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like he's you know, too hampered by that

1885
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 3: that injury from the spring.

1886
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Rabel is scrapped up special teams.

1887
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 4: So I like to talk to you guys about my

1888
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 4: buddy Mike Reese, right, because I always take a little

1889
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 4: extra stock into some of the I considered him to

1890
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 4: be one of the more informed beat guys. You never

1891
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 4: will hear me put him in the in the box

1892
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 4: like to everybody else when I make part of the media.

1893
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 4: Mike had an interesting roster projection and there was one

1894
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 4: guy in UH specifically that stood out to me and

1895
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 4: that was really shot out Giovari Ritzy. He had making

1896
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 4: his his final roster defensive tackle. I don't know much

1897
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 4: about that undrafted rookie out of North Carolina sixty four

1898
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 4: just looking at the roster. Do you guys know anything

1899
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 4: about this player? And should I have him on my radar?

1900
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I sure I didn't If I had to

1901
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 5: pick the ud F as he would not be at

1902
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 5: the top of the list, but mostly just because of competition,

1903
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 5: Like it's going to be a tough spot to make

1904
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 5: the roster as an interior defensive lineman when you have

1905
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 5: bar Moore and Williams and White and you know, Farms

1906
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 5: and Tongda like guys that are going to be on

1907
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 5: this team, so that that would be more Does he

1908
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 5: have an edge over Farms and that he's much more

1909
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 5: of a of an upfield player, and you know, you

1910
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 5: see the size is only two hundred and ninety five pounds,

1911
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 5: three hundred pounds, and but I remember of him, you know,

1912
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 5: just doing the ud fas, was that he's somebody that

1913
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 5: that is that style, you know, he fits the style

1914
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 5: of that they want to play a little bit more potentially.

1915
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 5: But I think there's a long way to go before

1916
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 5: we're talking about Ritzy picking the roster.

1917
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 4: I get, I get, well, I just yeah, if you

1918
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you guys obviously didn't see it. If you

1919
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 4: saw a roster projection at this time of year and

1920
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 4: that guy was on, it, wouldn't that feels It's not

1921
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 4: like Chisholm right now would not necessarily create that kind

1922
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:37,799
Speaker 4: of a reaction.

1923
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 5: That's some random.

1924
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: There's another there's another one that feels informed. Pomp.

1925
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 4: It feels it absolutely feels informed, which is why I

1926
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 4: bring it up. And I want to know if I

1927
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 4: should put any extra attention to that player. I think

1928
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to pronounce learn how to pronounce this.

1929
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 5: You know, there's going to be a bunch of udfas

1930
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 5: that make this team, because you were talking about it earlier,

1931
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 5: like it's new regime and they're gonna have their guys

1932
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 5: and they're gonna and a lot of them. They're gonna

1933
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,560
Speaker 5: be filter out some of the guys that are not

1934
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 5: necessarily fits for what they want to do. And we've

1935
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 5: talked a lot about e Fton, Chisholm and Marrison. But

1936
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 5: even at like tight end, you know, can g Scott

1937
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 5: or so Debre win a spot. Brock Lampy at fullback,

1938
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 5: does he win a spot? Apparently? Javari Ritzy is someone

1939
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,480
Speaker 5: we should all talk about. Cam Riley at linebacker.

1940
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 4: He had Larson on his roster.

1941
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I too.

1942
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: It's a great I like how Evan's laying it out

1943
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 3: because I think what Mike Reese was probably getting at

1944
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 3: is questions about death and some of these positions. Defensive

1945
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 3: tackle is a great one, and that's probably why he

1946
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: chose Ritzy. But you know who fits into this scheme?

1947
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 3: Do the holdovers hold their jobs? You know, you you

1948
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 3: brought up Jeremiah Farms, who had a great year last

1949
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 3: Year's really progressed, but still you know, he's like twenty eight,

1950
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 3: twenty nine. I mean, he's not a young spring chicken anymore.

1951
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 3: So those positions, the depth, that's where the jobs can

1952
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 3: do one. I think Evan laid out some great names

1953
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: that you don't brock Lampy, who's gonna unique player on

1954
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 3: the roster, might push for a spot if Josh likes

1955
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 3: that and wants to put that fullback back in.

1956
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 5: Only full back on the roster, they got to put

1957
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 5: the fullback back in?

1958
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 2: And what do we doing?

1959
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 4: We were talking about interviews after practice earlier and speculating

1960
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:15,799
Speaker 4: we should mention.

1961
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 3: That Drake May is going to speak today. Yeah, we

1962
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 3: will have that for you live. Yeah, after practice, after practice.

1963
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 5: Watching some footwork here with him under center and something

1964
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 5: that just like a little thing that be watching the

1965
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 5: play fakes and the under center footwork and all that stuff,

1966
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 5: Like the footwork really improved leaps and bounds from college

1967
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 5: to his rookie year. I think the play fakes can

1968
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 5: get a little bit better, like really selling the play

1969
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 5: action from under center. It'd be interesting to see how

1970
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 5: that develops.

1971
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 4: I got a little of the Drew in them. A

1972
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 4: little Drew was too cool to give you a really

1973
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 4: good play fake. It would be I got, how do

1974
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 4: I look smooth and cool.

1975
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 3: Doing this right?

1976
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 5: But when you're in shotgun like, it's not really footwork right,

1977
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 5: You're just kind of shuffling your feet. You know, it's

1978
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 5: not really we're not really talking about dropping back from

1979
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 5: you know, five seven nine step drops from under center.

1980
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 5: That that's really when we start to talk about footwork

1981
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 5: and then where that impacts the quarterback.

1982
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: But definitely they are working on that now from the

1983
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: shotgun quarterbacks and now we see offensive line.

1984
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 3: Here, So that's uh, I think that's Robert Cooler there,

1985
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 3: who I ran into at the automotive shop waiting for

1986
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 3: our cars to be ready, and you know, a line

1987
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: spread of building a relationship with football.

1988
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 6: Chatted with him.

1989
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 3: He was featured pretty prominently in the recent episode of Fortune.

1990
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 3: Foxborough as well said, oh, you got a first round

1991
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 3: pick to uh get your hands on?

1992
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 5: He said, oh, no, you know, I'm gonna.

1993
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 6: Let the shoot. What's the offensive line coach?

1994
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 3: Dog Moon?

1995
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1996
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 4: Come on, Robert Cooper.

1997
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 3: No, I know he's like a two time head coach.

1998
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: He gets very names in my head.

1999
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 5: Well they have, I exaggerate, but they have like five

2000
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,560
Speaker 5: offensive line coaches. They have three true like guys that

2001
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 5: are really the voices. But Jason Hawdling, he made an

2002
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 5: impression on me. He was with Rabel in Tennessee. He's

2003
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 5: actually run the room before he's been an offensive line coach,

2004
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 5: and then Doug Moron obviously has done it for years.

2005
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 5: So they kind of have two guys that could are

2006
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 5: qualified to be offensive line coach.

2007
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 4: That's part of what I was talking about earlier with

2008
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 4: like last year you had all guys that were actually

2009
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 4: doing it for the first time. This year they have

2010
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 4: assistants who have done it in the past, like Thomas Brown,

2011
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 4: Todd Downing has been an offensive coordinator. He's coaching wide receivers. Yeah,

2012
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 4: you know so, I think now sometimes that can work

2013
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 4: the other way. You got too many cooks in the kitchen.

2014
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 4: But right that isn't how I would do it. But

2015
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 4: that's Mike Britton. That's on Mike Rabel. He's got to

2016
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 4: make sure you don't get that kind.

2017
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: Of as they're all on the same page. Great.

2018
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,839
Speaker 5: When it comes to some of the stuff with the technique,

2019
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 5: I just from what I've seen, I would say Doug

2020
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 5: Moron is going to do a lot more of like

2021
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 5: the coordinating with Josh McDaniels of the offensive line. You know,

2022
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 5: how are we going to block things, How are we

2023
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 5: going to pick up blitz is? How are they going

2024
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 5: to scheme the run game? And all that kind of stuff.

2025
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 5: Looks like Haddling and Cooglar are really involved with like

2026
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 5: hands on coaching, and Myron is kind of sits back

2027
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 5: and watches and evaluates and and.

2028
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 3: Then gives his two So what was Huddling his nickname?

2029
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 3: I was on the stupid thing. I forget it was

2030
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 3: like Hoss or something, Coss or something. It's like quintessential

2031
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 3: offensive line coach. Who is the guy out in Vegas

2032
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 3: that we were car Priscillo. I mean, just these guys

2033
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 3: who are you know, they're all kind of built the same,

2034
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 3: They are kind of square guys. They just had that

2035
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 3: booming voice. And then there's Dante's right, Yeah, he's kind

2036
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 3: of you know, Dante's kind of the exception to that.

2037
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, just saw Stefan Diggs there take a past. This

2038
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: is a drill that once they get pads on, uh goes.

2039
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: It's more a lot more physical drill right now, it's

2040
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: just kind of two hand touch.

2041
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, So leveraging to try to push to your help,

2042
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 5: whether it's the sideline or you know, back into the

2043
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 5: teeth of the defense. So you're the defensive player wants

2044
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 5: to take an angle at the ball carrier in order

2045
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 5: to funnel him in a certain direction that they want

2046
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 5: to push him and Marcus Jones taking some reps with

2047
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:02,680
Speaker 5: the ball.

2048
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 6: I would not want to go against him.

2049
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 4: Can we can we get the ball in his hands?

2050
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 5: That would be my nightmare, Like I'll be a little

2051
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 5: bit on offense.

2052
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 3: Marcus's KBO.

2053
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 5: Kyle Williams was really good at this drill in the spring.

2054
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 5: I remember he made a couple of guys look look

2055
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 5: a little foolish.

2056
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 6: Of course, the return of the Guardian Caps, it's become.

2057
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 5: A Travon Henderson thirty two.

2058
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, he fast. He's one guy that I felt like

2059
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 3: through the spring, everybody kind of universally was like, yeah,

2060
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 3: he looks like he can play Kyle Williams as much

2061
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 3: as you can say it at this point, but oh,

2062
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 3: bull ship those two guys.

2063
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 5: If even if it's not a high volume, if they

2064
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 5: can just get some big plays out of those two

2065
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 5: guys and they can bring that infusion of explosiveness that

2066
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 5: they drafted them for and be so massive for the group.

2067
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 3: He digs Williams pop. I mean, these guys are all

2068
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 3: in the contract for a couple of years too, So

2069
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 3: anything you established this year, you've got guys to build it.

2070
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a great, great example right here,

2071
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 3: Jamon Baker, who you know, talk about a guy who

2072
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 3: has all the talent.

2073
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 6: Uh, but is he ready to take that step?

2074
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, he keep wanting to see him put it together

2075
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,839
Speaker 5: because he does have all the talent. Yea highly recruited

2076
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 5: guy at Alabama Big Year. You see f a couple

2077
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 5: of years ago. Like, it's not a talent issue with him,

2078
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 5: it's a consistency issue because the.

2079
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 6: Show guy to keep your eye on.

2080
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 3: I had a lot of talk that was quick.

2081
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 4: We're talking about and I don't want to you know,

2082
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 4: I'm not I can't see everything, but we talk a

2083
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 4: lot about Baker. Just now. His partner that everybody talks

2084
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 4: about with him is Polk. I haven't seen Jalen no Folk,

2085
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 4: so he's not on the list.

2086
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 5: But he did have you know, he had his shoulder

2087
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 5: and he's coming back and was limited in the spring.

2088
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 4: So I did not see him. Doesn't mean he's not

2089
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 4: out there or not. You know, before I you know,

2090
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 4: we end up getting aggregated. I'm not reporting that he's

2091
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 4: not out there. We're up here on the ramps, so

2092
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 4: I don't see everybody's cut an audio service.

2093
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 5: I don't see him either with their receivers, you know.

2094
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 4: And ironically, the other guy I didn't cross off is

2095
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 4: ninety three Ritzy. Yeah, after I just talked about him,

2096
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 4: He's probably out there. I just haven't seen him. Everybody

2097
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 4: else I have accounted for that's not on the list. Okay,

2098
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 4: So Josh Mankins, thanks, Paul Venerian Lowe and Austin Hooper

2099
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 4: are three guys that are still on lists.

2100
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 5: I got.

2101
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 4: You got ninety three so yeah, and Mac Collins is

2102
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 4: actually here but he's not practicing. So those poor guys,

2103
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 4: those are the only guys I don't have other than

2104
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 4: Jalen Polk.

2105
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, the other scribes or in agreement with you, So

2106
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 5: it's j Jalen Polk's the only guy not here.

2107
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's not not ideal for him. No, now, especially

2108
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 6: after yesterday, I said, I'm team Polk.

2109
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 3: So hopefully, hopefully it's not the major. But I mean,

2110
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 3: he was working through things during the off season. He

2111
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 3: was shoulder surgery.

2112
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had something done on his shoulder.

2113
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he had shoulders injury at the end

2114
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 5: of last year.

2115
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna lie, like I know, we talk

2116
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 3: about this the first day camp and you know, but

2117
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 3: it's like it matters, like I think every time you're

2118
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 3: not out here it matters.

2119
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 4: So particularly for guys like that. You know, if if

2120
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 4: if we talked a lot about digs and how positive

2121
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 4: it was that he's not on pup, well, if he

2122
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 4: was not on pup but maybe getting a little bit slower,

2123
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be as big an issue to me if

2124
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 4: you missed a day or two. Yeah, yeah, yeah, as

2125
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 4: it is for a guy like Pulk right who's trying

2126
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 4: to fight and prove that he's an NFL player.

2127
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 5: Yep.

2128
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 2: All these guys are working hard. They're not wearing front workwear,

2129
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 2: but you should when you're working.

2130
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: Uh. They make work boots in apparel that are built

2131
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: for the job site. Their gear is comfortable, durable and

2132
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 1: named after the real workers of the trades that helped

2133
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: design it. And it's done right here in New England.

2134
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,560
Speaker 1: You can even try brunt out on the job and

2135
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:03,640
Speaker 1: if it doesn't blow you away, they let you just

2136
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: send it back. Save ten bucks on your first order

2137
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: at brontworkwear dot com, forward slash pats or with coupon

2138
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: code p A t S.

2139
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 2: So get your Bront workwear I've got my three quarters.

2140
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 3: Zip on you two for that, I mean, and Jean's

2141
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 3: friend you you trust for.

2142
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 2: Well, it's not that hot yet.

2143
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 5: I'm saving the shorts out here at four.

2144
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a little chilling.

2145
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm saving the shorts for Friday and Saturday because it's

2146
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 2: going to be really hot.

2147
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 6: Fussed out the stems.

2148
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's definitely gonna be hot those days.

2149
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 5: Have we've seen Matt Collins running through these drills at all?

2150
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 4: He came out, but he didn't have a helmet.

2151
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 5: He went down with you. That's another interesting one. And

2152
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 5: he hasn't done anything. I didn't see him in the spring.

2153
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 5: Isn't doing anything now. I think he's pretty close to

2154
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 5: being a lock on the roster. But he's not healthy.

2155
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 5: He's not healthy.

2156
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 7: You know.

2157
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 4: I wonder about the pup thing to buy some time. Yeah, yeah,

2158
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 4: a veteran that we know is going to be here.

2159
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 4: This allows us to get extra time with Pulk Baker, Chisholm,

2160
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 4: Booty Becorn.

2161
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 2: See.

2162
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 4: I would say, I just like saying that you're gonna

2163
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 4: make fun of me. That's okay. I would say John

2164
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 4: Giles showed out to as much to me. Spring is

2165
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 4: any of those other secondary receivers. They targeted him now,

2166
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 4: not Drake May. Those guys generally work with Josh Dobbs

2167
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 4: and and thank you. I was going to struggle with

2168
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 4: that other guy, but.

2169
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 2: He showed up.

2170
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 4: John Giles. You know, he's a guy who was here

2171
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 4: a little bit right.

2172
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 5: It's got good size last year good I.

2173
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 3: Mean hight weight. I mean he's got all the intangent

2174
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 3: I mean Scout Team, Scout Team X guy that you're like,

2175
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 3: all right, we got to go against the big dog

2176
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 3: this week.

2177
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 6: You're gonna play that part.

2178
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 4: Don't make fun of me. Later they went nice, but

2179
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 4: theyn't make fun of me.

2180
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 6: You never make fun of you, you know.

2181
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 5: I feel like matt is mac Collins a lock.

2182
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 4: I think I think he's a lot because of his

2183
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Speaker 4: special Team's ability and just.

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01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 5: His leadership and and all that stuff too. And I

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01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 5: feel like he's here to kind of.

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Speaker 4: Plus you don't really want to least the millions, Like

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01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 4: you know, you give a guy in like a five

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01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars signing bonus or something, you have to

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Speaker 4: cut him.

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Speaker 3: Yea, this will sound funny, but like a million again,

2191
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 3: I think he's the perfect number five receiver.

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01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, And I don't mean that

2193
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 5: as a negative.

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01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 3: But it's just like special teams. He's got, you know,

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01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 3: a little bit unique size and well I'll tell you

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01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 3: what I think too, and.

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01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 4: Not everybody has it. Some especially at that position.

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Speaker 5: They're deevs right.

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Speaker 4: They're used to getting the ball that used to be

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01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 4: the center of attention. Not all guys could just sit

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Speaker 4: around and all of a sudden in the middle of

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01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 4: the third quarter is the key play that hey, we

2203
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 4: need this four receiver set, we need you, right, Matt

2204
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 4: Collins is showing the ability to get you know, seven

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01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 4: snaps in the game, but find a way to make

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01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 4: two catches. Yeah, yeah, I mean he did it with

2207
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 4: Buffalo a lot last year.

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01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 5: Was a huge call last year. Like I'm not talking

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01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 5: he's not ready Moss, but like he was a good

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01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 5: player in his role.

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01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 4: When they asked him to make plays, he delivered.

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01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:00,560
Speaker 5: And he can play a little in the slot and

2213
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 5: us his size a little bit in the slot as well.

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01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 5: Like he's just he's a football player. He's a guy

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01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 5: that can be a good player.

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01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 2: It's kind of perfectly. It's not easy to do.

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01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 1: There's a couple at that position, come off the bench

2218
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: like that in a key in a key moment and

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01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: make the play.

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01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 5: He had a good year in McDaniels in Vegas a

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01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 5: couple of years ago. Was his career best, right, Yeah,

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01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 5: but Buffalo last year. I mean he was not a

2223
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 5: bad player from Buffalo.

2224
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 4: So you go back and you look, you've had ESPN

2225
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 4: has been doing a lot of like wrap ups of

2226
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 4: divisions and you know they show the Patriots that you know,

2227
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 4: you see the Drake May scrambling around touchdown against Tennessee Buffalo.

2228
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 4: There's like two or three different catches that Hollins makes, Yeah,

2229
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 4: as part of their little package.

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01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 3: He impressed me when we were in Vegas for joint practices.

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01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I spent most of my time watching DeVante Adams,

2232
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 3: you know, do his thing. But he seemed like just

2233
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 3: a great compliment, you know, just a big outside receiver

2234
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,680
Speaker 3: that in those packages with multiple receivers, He's got a

2235
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 3: presence on the outside and it's you know, he's playing

2236
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 3: all your special teams.

2237
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 6: He's a really good off the field guy. I think

2238
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 6: that's what they're looking for.

2239
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 5: I know Paul's gonna scoff at what I'm about to say.

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Speaker 5: He might be the best run blocking wide receiver in football,

2241
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 5: Like dead serious, I'm not.

2242
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna scrap because because of what Mike said,

2243
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 4: he's a fourth or fifth receiver. Yeah, he's an elite.

2244
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: I need that.

2245
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 4: I need a guy. If you're gonna be that, you're

2246
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 4: gonna have to go and be a gunner. You're gonna

2247
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 4: have to block in the running game. That's what I want.

2248
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 4: That's going to bitching about not getting the right right.

2249
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 6: And so if he's not bitching about knocking the ball,

2250
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 6: what about the guy.

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01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 3: Who's like the third receiver, Like, you can't be bitching

2252
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 3: if the fifth guy, you know, who's.

2253
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,839
Speaker 5: Digging out the nickel, Oh, we got it, mat Collins

2254
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 5: going there and get his getting there and then get

2255
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 5: the nose dirty.

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01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like he's a little ways off though,

2257
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 3: So I mean it does without Polp. Without him, I

2258
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:51,759
Speaker 3: mean guys like Javal Baker. You got to take advantage

2259
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 3: every single day that those guys aren't out here and

2260
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 3: make the most of every time the ball comes your way.

2261
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,439
Speaker 3: You can't have. Beginning of camp, we saw a lot

2262
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:01,560
Speaker 3: of great stuff from Baker, and then we started to

2263
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 3: see some drops and you know, it's just.

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01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 6: It became inconsistent. Can't can't go.

2265
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 3: You can't repeat that if you want to try to

2266
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 3: build towards making this roster and having a roll yep.

2267
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:12,839
Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we're going to be saying goodbye.

2268
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 1: Our cameras will have to be shut off permanently, so

2269
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: we'll let these guys get go downstairs and actually pay

2270
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: real attention to practice.

2271
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 2: But it'll be a shorter practice today.

2272
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll have Patriots Unfiltered at our little later after

2273
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 1: right after practice, right after practice, right on THELL. So

2274
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 1: we'll wrap up everything we saw the last two days tomorrow,

2275
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: and you guys will do your podcast after every day

2276
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:39,759
Speaker 1: of practice.

2277
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 2: So you want to go and subscribe to what is

2278
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 2: it called.

2279
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Training Camps, Training camp Cast.

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01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Training camp Cast yep, so we'll do so we'll have

2281
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: those after every practice.

2282
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 2: You might do so show, we'll have those after every practice.

2283
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: Obviously, Patriots dot Com in all the Patriots social accounts,

2284
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: we'll have content coming out the wazoo throughout training camp

2285
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: this summer, so it's another good way to follow. So

2286
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: lots going on. Our next live show from practice will

2287
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: be Monday. We picked that day because we're told that's

2288
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: going to be the first day in pads, and that's

2289
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:20,759
Speaker 1: always an exciting day to finally see them a little

2290
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: bit more physical and shoulder pads. So that'll be on

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01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 1: Monday around the same time. I think probably, yeah, yeah,

2292
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: I know.

2293
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:32,560
Speaker 3: We're wrapping up, but I just want to mention we

2294
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 3: talked about the linebackers. We didn't even mention Christian Ellis,

2295
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 3: who's out there and you know who they not only

2296
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 3: signed to an initial restrictive free agent deal, but then

2297
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 3: when the Raiders offered him, they they matched it and

2298
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 3: gave him.

2299
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 6: You know, a more significant deal.

2300
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 3: So it was always the Raiders were trying to get

2301
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 3: him to replace Splaine, and they're like, we only not

2302
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 3: only kept Splaine, We're gonna we want to keep Ellis too.

2303
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 3: So he's another guy who's a little bit of a

2304
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 3: wild card. Is he on that trajectory of going from

2305
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 3: special teams player to a real linebacker who tribute Zach

2306
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 3: Bond last year being like the ultimate story of a

2307
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 3: guy who signed a one year deal.

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01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 6: With Philadelphia and then just exploded. I don't know if

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01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 6: Ellis is on that.

2310
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,600
Speaker 5: Track, But so you're saying, going to be in my

2311
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 5: first team all.

2312
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 3: Right, exactly, But but maybe the Patriots do see that

2313
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 3: kind of trajectory for him in this defense, that hey,

2314
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 3: this is a guy who can run a little bit

2315
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 3: and he fits him well at that at that inside linebacker,

2316
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 3: respective if it's in nice and next to splane, you're

2317
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 3: just from a body type and like skill guy.

2318
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, weak sidelinebacker.

2319
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: So Rabel's very active. I'm just wondering can he sustain

2320
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,640
Speaker 1: this all summer? I mean, how much going to have

2321
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: to take after today because he's getting knocked around.

2322
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, especially with all those years that was

2323
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 3: the fourteen years in the NFL.

2324
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 5: He drinks, Yeah, apparently, Dan Campbell drinks like a ridiculous

2325
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 5: amount of coffee. That's how he gets, you know, has

2326
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 5: all the energy.

2327
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:49,080
Speaker 1: That he has.

2328
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 2: All you do is one of those celsius just like

2329
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 2: five cups.

2330
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2331
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to get up and on the way up,

2332
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,719
Speaker 2: we're going to buy a knell.

2333
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 3: That's right.

2334
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Docter Henry talking with his head coach. Yeah,

2335
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about the tight ends.

2336
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I mean to Cooper seems like

2337
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 3: to be a little bit for him too. So again

2338
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 3: talking about opportunities for guys. You know, maybe at Jahem

2339
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 3: Bell he's able to take advantage of check Westover stuff.

2340
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 5: So waiting for one of those guys west Over Bell,

2341
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 5: dupre Scott, somebody show us a little something.

2342
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna have plenty to talk about

2343
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: this summer as the Patriots get ready for their twenty

2344
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 1: twenty five campaign. But for this episode of Patriots Unfiltered

2345
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: Special Training Camp Edition, we're gonna say goodbye. We want

2346
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: to thank everyone for tuning in for training camp again.

2347
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: We'll be back live on Monday for PADS, but Patriots

2348
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: Unfiltered will be going on.

2349
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 2: The camp cast will be going on after every practice.

2350
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: Catch twenty two can't forget that with the bartender, yes,

2351
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: all the writing.

2352
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 2: We'll have Patriots All Access at the end of this week.

2353
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 2: So there's so much Patriots.

2354
01:39:56,040 --> 01:40:00,080
Speaker 1: Content Forge at Foxborough Episode two drop last Friday to

2355
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 1: watch that on YouTube. But for now we're gonna say goodbye,

2356
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: thanks for watching, and we'll see you later.

2357
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2358
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:12,800
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01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,360
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2360
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01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,800
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2362
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,000
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2363
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:22,280
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