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Speaker 1: Colin Coward Podcast. J Mac, Jason McIntyre, stop by thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the Dalvin Cook Jets deal. John Middlecoff on why

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Speaker 1: the Trey Lance situation Is it a disaster?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Grand Teriesmo is a new movie. I liked it. The

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Speaker 1: story of a kid who's a gamer becomes a race

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Speaker 1: car driver. It's really interesting. But first my top takes

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Speaker 1: of the week. You know, I was thinking about something

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Speaker 1: today because Ezekiel Elliott Zeke signed with the Patriots. Is

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Speaker 1: that there are things in life that I seek value with.

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Speaker 1: I've got very flat, wide size twelve feet. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: Same with cars, cars to mere transportation. I know many

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Speaker 1: of you have that testosterone car gene. Nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 1: My wife's a Michigan girl. She loves cars. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: So I seek value in cars. I probably own, you

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Speaker 1: And then there are things I just won't go cheap on.

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Speaker 1: I tell my kids all the time, Education and experiences.

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Speaker 1: things like coffee. And I think it's interesting that the

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Speaker 1: he's not close to Dalvin Cook. Dalvin Cook is still

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Speaker 4: I don't think loyalty exists in sports. I know you

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Speaker 4: not looking as great as we thought, Like thirteen wins, Okay,

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Speaker 4: they'll go down to nine or ten, will they?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

431
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Speaker 4: You should start to looking like Dalvin Cook. I get

432
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Speaker 4: to the Jets start looking at his numbers. You think

433
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Speaker 4: Alex Madison can really replace those numbers from Dalvin Cook

434
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Speaker 4: in the past and run game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

436
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Speaker 4: Madison's a good I play fantasy football. He's a good

437
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Speaker 4: a handcuff guy. He's not a great starter. Like, I

438
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Speaker 4: don't know, there's a world where the Vikings are like, oh,

439
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Speaker 4: eight to nine. Yeah, let's move on from Krik Cousins.

440
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Speaker 4: Who can we put in here on the cheap and

441
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Speaker 4: then rebuild and fortify around him the way the Niners

442
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Speaker 4: have really built what is kind of a blueprint for

443
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Speaker 4: the NFL Right now.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've got most of my divisions down

445
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Speaker 1: and in most instances, I'm just taking the best quarterback.

446
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Speaker 1: And I think you've talked me into taking the Saints,

447
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: although they're going to be thin at running back. Probably

448
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: take the Saints to win that division. I'll take Carolina

449
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Speaker 1: as a wild card team. Is there a team to

450
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Speaker 1: you that won't make the playoffs? And it will shock

451
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Speaker 1: people because we generally, you and I are both sort

452
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Speaker 1: of more optimistic early in the season. Nobody wants to

453
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Speaker 1: be a downer. After watching the Broncos, I don't know

454
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Speaker 1: if it would be a shock, but watching them struggle

455
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Speaker 1: in the first three series against Arizona, I'm like, man,

456
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Speaker 1: this is not plug and play like this, this is

457
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Speaker 1: really choppy. But that wouldn't be a surprise, because I

458
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Speaker 1: think we all understand the Chargers and the Chiefs are

459
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Speaker 1: really stacked rosters. Do you have a oh crap, they

460
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Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs team.

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Speaker 4: I was going to save this for the herd. It's

462
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Speaker 4: probably too hot for the volume audience, colle but you

463
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Speaker 4: look at the Chargers and you're one in Brandon Staley.

464
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Speaker 4: They were in Week seventeen Answer Raiders national television game.

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Speaker 2: All they needed was the tie to get to overtime.

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Speaker 4: Game ends in a tie and they both teams go

467
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Speaker 4: to the playoff right and Staley messes that up, calls timeout.

468
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Speaker 4: Raiders kick the field goal. Chargers missed the playoffs, but

469
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Speaker 4: everything's looking great. We got justin Herbert. Year two, Herbert's injured,

470
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Speaker 4: Stalley gets less aggressive. This is kind of an underplayed story.

471
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Speaker 4: He started to get more cautious. Remember first year he

472
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Speaker 4: was the head coach, led the NFL in fourth down conversions,

473
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Speaker 4: one of the most aggressive coaches. Was very good, but

474
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Speaker 4: the media got on his case. He started to dial

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Speaker 4: it back. Last year started coach maybe a little scared

476
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Speaker 4: they make the playoffs. He blows a huge lead. He

477
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Speaker 4: enters year three and they drafted a receiver who you

478
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Speaker 4: seem to like the kid Johnson TCU Quinton Job. Yeah,

479
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Speaker 4: we like the offensive coordinator in Kellen Moore. But as

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Speaker 4: you said, the division is loaded, the schedule is not easy,

481
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Speaker 4: and the AFC is a gauntlet. If I'm picking a

482
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Speaker 4: team to miss the playoffs, here's a crazy scenario. Chargers

483
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Speaker 4: missed the playoffs. Decide man, we ruined Justin Herbert's rookie

484
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Speaker 4: d We have no playoff wins, one playoff appearance. Staley,

485
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Speaker 4: you're out of here. We're gonna make a Runnert a

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Speaker 4: big time coach, and you happen to talk about a

487
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Speaker 4: coach Monday on the Hurt that you know, it's facing

488
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Speaker 4: some battles with the NCAA and had dabbled in the

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Speaker 4: NFL last summer. I think it last February. He interviewed

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Speaker 4: with the Vikings and he was, you know, I guess,

491
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Speaker 4: chatting with the Chargers. The Carolina Panthers owner, his name

492
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Speaker 4: is Jim Harball. Jim Harball obviously a loves California. It's

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Speaker 4: time with San Francisco. What if the Chargers missed the

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Speaker 4: playoffs seven and ten, eight and nine.

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Speaker 1: That's not going to get it and you're not getting

496
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Speaker 1: nine and eight is probably going to miss the playoffs

497
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Speaker 1: in the AFC.

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Speaker 4: So they missed the playoffs Chargers do they say, you

499
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Speaker 4: know what, Sorry, Staley, the ship has sailed. Oh, Jim

500
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Speaker 4: Harbo's on the market. And Jim Harbaugh sees I can

501
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Speaker 4: get justin Herbert. You're telling me that's not getting Jim

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Speaker 4: Harbaugh to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And a heartbeat.

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Speaker 4: Now the only hiccup here. And you know, the owners

505
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: of the Chargers have been out of notorious cheap skates.

506
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 4: Maybe one of the kids gets his dad, Hey, dad,

507
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Speaker 4: open up the book. We got to get Jim Harble

508
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Speaker 4: in here. And Chargers missed the playoffs. But it's a

509
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: blessing in disguise. They bring in Jim Harbaugh.

510
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Speaker 1: So there's a new movie coming out that I just watched.

511
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: My producers and I watched it. They send us a

512
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: link Grand Turismo. It is a hard story to believe

513
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: is true, but it is actually true. We're a middle

514
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Speaker 1: class gamer, an optimistic motor sport executive, and a failed

515
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: race car driver team up in what is one of

516
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Speaker 1: the more inspiring unique sports stories in one of the

517
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Speaker 1: most elite sports in the world. The movie August twenty

518
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: fifth is when it opens up. Get your tickets now.

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00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: It's called Grand Turismo. It is a true story. And

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00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: I was told that I watched the movie. I had

521
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Speaker 1: to google after. I'm like, give me a break. I

522
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: never heard about this story, and it's all true. August

523
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Speaker 1: twenty fifth, and we bring in the actual gamer who

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Speaker 1: pulled this off, Yan Martin Borough, joining us on the

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Speaker 1: volume When You're a gamer, and there was parts in

526
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Speaker 1: the movie and I understand it's Hollywood, so not everything

527
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: in the movie is true about your dad, you know,

528
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: like all dads is thinking to himself, my son's playing esports,

529
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Speaker 1: he's an e gamer. I want you to get a

530
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: real job. And I thought to myself, is this Hollywood?

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Speaker 1: Or could you tell us? Was their doubts by your family?

532
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: Your mom supported you, but your dad was like, you know,

533
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: I understand, like I'm a dad. Was there conflict with

534
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: your dad or was that a little bit of Hollywood?

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00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 5: Well it wasn't really. Esports wasn't a thing back then

536
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: in motorsports. Anyway, twelve years ago, twenty eleven, I've had

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Speaker 5: it all my life. I guess any millennial born in

538
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: the nineties has had the same thing with PlayStation. All

539
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 5: the games I've had it in school, coming home from school,

540
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 5: you have to do two hours revision before that thing

541
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Speaker 5: even gets turned on. Whatever, go outside, No, I want

542
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 5: to play PlayStation instead. It's forever been a thing. So

543
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 5: when I was talking to the producers and scriptwriters back

544
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: in wow, this was twenty nineteen.

545
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Speaker 3: I mean it was.

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Speaker 5: I just told my experiences. It's like, yeah, my dad

547
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 5: wanted to be to outside and have a childhood like

548
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 5: he did, but didn't quite understand that. I'm also socializing

549
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 5: online with my friends with my microphone. And it's now

550
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 5: it's kind of normalreas back then it's still you have

551
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Speaker 5: different generation, not really understanding the current generation.

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Speaker 3: So no, it's not Hollywood. It's that's how it was,

553
00:29:59,400 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's interesting you say that, how old are

555
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: you now? Because you sound like my sixteen year old

556
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: son who says, Dad, I am socializing. I'm socializing on

557
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Speaker 1: my computer.

558
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm thirty one.

559
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Speaker 5: And even now it's it's another level because not only well,

560
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 5: twelve years ago, I guess I don't know what if

561
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 5: twitch was a thing. Back then, YouTube was barely a thing,

562
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 5: but certainly online streaming wasn't a thing, whereas now you

563
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 5: can have I don't know, like millions of people, hundreds

564
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Speaker 5: of thousands of people watch you play a game and

565
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Speaker 5: also socialize in the chat. That's something which is again

566
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Speaker 5: for me, I don't do that because I'm in my

567
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 5: thing is in real life. But when I look at

568
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 5: these content streamers and it's like, yeah, they're so talking

569
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Speaker 5: to so many people at the same time.

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Speaker 3: It's like a social event.

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Speaker 1: So I had never heard of this story, and as

572
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Speaker 1: I watched the movie, it's very compelling. I literally had Google, Okay,

573
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Speaker 1: is this real? So you're basically a gamer, you get

574
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: invited to the GT Academy, you win it, and because

575
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: of an aspirational you know, motorsport executive and a driver

576
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: who has real doubts about you, did you have? You

577
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: come across as very confident. But I mean, let's be honest,

578
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: this story there's a reason Hollywood wanted to make this story.

579
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't even sound true. Did you ever have a

580
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: doubt gamer to getting in a car before that first

581
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: race starts? Were you anxious? Were you nervous or did

582
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Speaker 1: you have this sort of inner scoreboard and believe not

583
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Speaker 1: there's advantages that I have over these drivers.

584
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Speaker 3: Never thought of that.

585
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Speaker 5: But I'm someone who's very headstrong, and I'm somebody who

586
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Speaker 5: I think he has.

587
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Speaker 3: A good.

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Speaker 5: Building block psyche from my father telling me to a

589
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Speaker 5: young age, and you would do something in life which

590
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: brinsy purpose and that you're passionate about, and that for

591
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: me is cars. So I'm a headstrong person, So that

592
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: is all I wanted to do. So when the opportunity

593
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 5: presented itself or this is a chance of becoming a

594
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: race and driver, I was all in and that I

595
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 5: didn't think I could win. I didn't think I could lose.

596
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: It was this weird frame of mind during the whole

597
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Speaker 5: process of entering entering it at home on my PlayStation

598
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Speaker 5: and also get into the finals of the academy, where

599
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 5: I was like a blinked race horse, where I didn't

600
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Speaker 5: want to think about winning or losing it. It was just like, Okay,

601
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: what's next, Let's do the best I can learn from,

602
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: learn from my mistakes in the previous instructors' comments, and

603
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: the next time in the car, don't make that mistake again,

604
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: or let's improve.

605
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Speaker 3: It was this weird mindset.

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Speaker 5: I never thought that I had an advantage over anybody else,

607
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 5: because I went in there with the understanding that I'm

608
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 5: to be a sponge.

609
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 3: That was my another thing.

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Speaker 5: I remember thinking like, it's like all the information that's

611
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: that it's going to be taught at me during this

612
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 5: academy process at GT academy is going to be good

613
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: information because all the drivers, all the instructors are currently

614
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 5: current racing drivers or the ex professionals, So whatever they're

615
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 5: telling me, it's going to be correct. I have no

616
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 5: preconceived ideas of how to race at racing right, so

617
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: I was just absorbing all of it, and I never

618
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 5: thought that I had an advantage over anybody else. Really

619
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Speaker 5: it's not. I was very much aware that I'm the

620
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 5: first step of a ladder. Because there's people that were

621
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Speaker 5: there at the academy who had had drifting experience of

622
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: then track days, of then cart in I was the

623
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Speaker 5: least experienced person of everybody there. And it was the

624
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 5: same thing in entering motorsport. After the academy, I'm very

625
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 5: much aware that I'm here to All I cared about

626
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 5: is my progression.

627
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Speaker 3: I didn't care about anything else.

628
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Speaker 5: I want to make sure that my progression is exponential

629
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Speaker 5: for as long as possible, so I never I was

630
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Speaker 5: all I am is very headstrong. He was like, Okay,

631
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 5: that's what I want to do, and I'll do it.

632
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 5: I don't think if I'm no confidence in showing it egotistically,

633
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 5: it's not really my scene. Even now, it's like, I

634
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 5: don't say what I've done. It's like the people that

635
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: put I guess you know, the school accomplishments MBAs and

636
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 5: stuff in their bios is I'm just not that I

637
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 5: have receipts of what I've done in the past. And

638
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 5: the movie thing is fantastic. I never thought it'd be

639
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 5: a thing because it's so random. So when it first

640
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 5: got told to me, I didn't believe them and I thought,

641
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: why me, I'm just racing my racing, That's what I've

642
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 5: been doing.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting. And you're a gamer and then you're

644
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Speaker 1: a driver. Once you'd succeeded it driving, did you go

645
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Speaker 1: back to gaming sometimes and think, actually, it helped you

646
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Speaker 1: as a driver, so you transition from gamer to driver

647
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Speaker 1: when you went back to gaming. Are there things gaming

648
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Speaker 1: in gaming that actually are advantages that drivers probably could use?

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: The main reason why drivers and I still use SIMS

651
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Speaker 5: is because of the limited time you have on circuits.

652
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Speaker 5: So in the off season, right from I don't know

653
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Speaker 5: novemb till March, you there's no real drive and it's

654
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Speaker 5: called here in the UK during those months, so you

655
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Speaker 5: the next beastitting is being in a simulator. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's just lapse, it's it's time in the seat. Yeah,

657
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Speaker 5: it's that. That's what it's currently useful. That's what I

658
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Speaker 5: still use the SIMP for.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I've been in a race car twice now

660
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Speaker 1: more of a stock car American version, which is not

661
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Speaker 1: as slick as what you drove. My takeaway is, Wow,

662
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Speaker 1: it's really hot in here and you better be in shape.

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Speaker 1: So in the movie, the first time you were in

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Speaker 1: that car, take me to the physical I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: did you come out of that thing and wake up

666
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Speaker 1: the next morning and you were a wreck?

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Speaker 2: You were?

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Speaker 1: Was it physically more daunting than you thought it would be.

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Speaker 3: It was an accluminative.

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Speaker 5: It was an accluminative like sensation really, because during those

671
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Speaker 5: academy days day one, day two, day three, you know,

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Speaker 5: kind of feel fine. But then in the later days

673
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Speaker 5: I was aware that my hands were starting to get

674
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Speaker 5: quite sore, my forearms, my even my neck to a

675
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Speaker 5: little bit to a point. And then certainly when I

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Speaker 5: transitioned to really quick racing cars after the academy, we're

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Speaker 5: actually racing.

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Speaker 3: Then it's it became a thing. It became a real thing.

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Speaker 5: Like there's muscles behind your ears, which you don't really

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Speaker 5: work in normal day today life. But when you've done

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Speaker 5: two days testing in a Formula three car at a

682
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Speaker 5: track where seven to five of the corners out of

683
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Speaker 5: seven a full throttle, and you wake up the next morning,

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Speaker 5: you get lift your head up the pillow and your

685
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Speaker 5: neck is just it's in bits, and you've got another

686
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Speaker 5: day test and it's yeah, it's a thing. It's really

687
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Speaker 5: gt cars. They get very hot, it's quite tot in.

688
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Speaker 5: You have to be lean, you have to be aerobically fit.

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Speaker 5: I train it every day, and not only because of

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Speaker 5: my job, because I actually enjoyed training. It's it's part

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Speaker 5: of my lifestyle. But yeah, you know, i've recently.

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Speaker 3: I never did it.

693
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Speaker 5: Before because I never would technology. But I had a

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Speaker 5: recent name at Fuji in Japan. It's a twenty four

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Speaker 5: hour race and I have this finished tracker my wrist

696
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Speaker 5: and I left it on during the race and over

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Speaker 5: two hours. I think I burnt eight hundred and seventy calories.

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Speaker 5: It was average one hundred and fifty deep some minutes

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Speaker 5: got the peaked at a one hundred and seventy five.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 5: So it's like it's your your stress for a long time.

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Speaker 5: It's maybe the heat in a GT card. The heat

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Speaker 5: really makes your body work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say a twenty four hour race,

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Speaker 1: like Lemon's how, I'm just a novice. How do you

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Speaker 1: get Obviously they're probably mechanisms to keep you hydrated, but

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Speaker 1: you're burning through eight hundred calories every two hours? How

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Speaker 1: do you eat? I mean, are you do you go

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Speaker 1: into a race?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: You you don't want to go into a race like

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Speaker 1: heavy and tired, so you want to go in fairly lean.

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Speaker 1: How do you eat in a twenty four hour race

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Speaker 1: when you're burning those kind of calories?

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Speaker 5: I think for me, I've always ate at normal times,

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Speaker 5: so I still stick to my during for the race,

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Speaker 5: and during I still stick to my normal plan. I'll

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Speaker 5: eat when I'm hungry. I eat my three meals a day,

719
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Speaker 5: but it's.

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Speaker 3: Not so much.

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Speaker 5: When I get out of the car, you know I

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Speaker 5: need to grab food immediately. It's more when you wake

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Speaker 5: up in the middle of the night and then you

724
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Speaker 5: know you're in the car, like I don't know, four am.

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Speaker 5: And then it's planning your times of eating in really

726
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Speaker 5: unusual hours because then you bought your body like I'm

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Speaker 5: hungry for it's four o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 3: This isn't normal.

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Speaker 5: It's an interesting experience because you're hungry at weird times.

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Speaker 5: All I felt, all I've done really is whenever I'm

731
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Speaker 5: hung just make sure I'm not hungry and I get

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Speaker 5: in the car and then I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: So you dominate a game like Grand Turismo, right, and

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Speaker 1: that gets you on a track. Are there other games?

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Speaker 1: As a gamer? Are there other games? Does it transition

736
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Speaker 1: in esports that you're just good on almost any gaming

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Speaker 1: platform you crush?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's.

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Speaker 5: I think now I would never putting the hours required

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Speaker 5: to be at a level where I'm the best because

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Speaker 5: I don't find that enjoyable. But also, whatever I do

742
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Speaker 5: want to same now is for my real life performance

743
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Speaker 5: in the car, so I never go into that detail anymore.

744
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Speaker 5: But I can jump on another They all have their nuances,

745
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Speaker 5: they're all slightly different, but I can jump on another

746
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Speaker 5: sim whether that be on PC or another title on

747
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Speaker 5: PlayStation and be quick excite the racing game. It's what

748
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Speaker 5: I've been doing since I was eight, so I'm kind

749
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Speaker 5: of all right at doing them.

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Speaker 1: You and I grew up. I think we spent a

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Speaker 1: lot of our formative years as PAC twelve fans. And

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Speaker 1: you know what's really happened with all this realignment is

753
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Speaker 1: that if you were precious or idealistic or snooty, you

754
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Speaker 1: got kicked in the head. Stanford has tried doing it football.

755
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: They've spent money, cal never really has. They did the basics.

756
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Speaker 1: They got better facilities, and with that they've still put

757
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Speaker 1: a lot of good NFL players quarterbacks in the league.

758
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Speaker 1: But the programs out west that said and they're good

759
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Speaker 1: academic schools, USC Washington, you know those are real schools Texas,

760
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Speaker 1: the schools that have said, wow, there is one athletic

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Speaker 1: program that makes a lot of money, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to commit to it if you have a good football program.

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Speaker 1: You had multiple suitors, Like it's hard for me to

764
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Speaker 1: feel bad for the PAC twelve when in a world

765
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Speaker 1: where pillow fighting is on the air and slap fighting

766
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Speaker 1: is a business that you as a college football conference

767
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Speaker 1: could not get a television deal. I work at a

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Speaker 1: TV network. We're dying for content, but arrogance too precious.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you hire somebody from a tennis channel

770
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Speaker 1: to run your conference and they consider the Seers Cup

771
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Speaker 1: as viable as the Rose Bowl, you get what you deserve.

772
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Speaker 1: And so you either commit to football as an athletic

773
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Speaker 1: department or you're lost. You just don't understand the way

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Speaker 1: the entire pyramid of college sports works.

775
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Speaker 2: The most embarrassing part of this whole deal is that

776
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Speaker 2: I think the Big Ten and definitely the SEC, understood

777
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Speaker 2: that football not only pays for everything, but the more

778
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Speaker 2: success it has, everyone benefits. Yes, why in the SEC

779
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Speaker 2: their basketball programs now pay coaches elite money. I was

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Speaker 2: watching the USAM golf tournament. It's full of SEC kids

781
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: from all over the They're great at the college baseball tournament,

782
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Speaker 2: and Larry Scott viewed this as as some equitable endeavor.

783
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Speaker 2: And that's not the way college sports has built. Football

784
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Speaker 2: pays for everything and then everyone benefits. And what I

785
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Speaker 2: wonder though, is how do they ever get to the

786
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Speaker 2: point when the top fifty. However, many programs under the umbrella,

787
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Speaker 2: you know, so fighting to get to the twelve team playoff,

788
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Speaker 2: all abide by the same rules, same amount of conference games,

789
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Speaker 2: no more playing Weber State and UC Davis those days.

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Speaker 2: How do they ever get there? Because essentially, you're going

791
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Speaker 2: to need a commissioner or a governing body that mandates

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Speaker 2: basically universal rules. That Alabama, that Ohio State, Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 2: and it feels like we're still a little bit far

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Speaker 2: away from that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always felt you need a scheduling czar in

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Speaker 1: college football. I mean, why did the UFC and mixed

797
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Speaker 1: martial arts but UFC overtake boxing because they had a commissioner,

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Speaker 1: strong willed, a definitive Dana White. I'm gonna lease an

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Speaker 1: island and boxing continually ripped off fans once a month.

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Speaker 1: You get a UFC card. Even my wife enjoys going.

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00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: You always get quality entertainment and your money's worth. Where

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Speaker 1: college football has struggled to me, John, in my life

803
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: is not passion, is not branding. It's too few great games.

804
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: Everybody's avoiding an out of conference loss. So to me,

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Speaker 1: the bigger the tournament becomes twelve to sixteen teams, the

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Speaker 1: more willing Texas and Alabama are this year to play

807
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Speaker 1: each other, USC Michigan. Now they will play each other.

808
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Speaker 1: But those are the games I mean go to starting

809
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: next week until the first Thursday of the NFL. There's

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Speaker 1: about fifteen twenty days there and there's like three good

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Speaker 1: college football games. So the sport's going to change. The

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Speaker 1: tournament like college basketball is going to become the focal point.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to erode the sport. What's eroded college

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Speaker 1: basketball isn't the tournament. What's eroded it is the one

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Speaker 1: and done culture. The teams aren't very good, the players

816
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Speaker 1: aren't very good. So college football still has the three

817
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Speaker 1: year minimum rule, but the sport's gonna shift, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to shift to a The tournament is the centerpiece

819
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Speaker 1: of it. More teams will be allowed in a little

820
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: bit of an arms race. But I do believe more

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Speaker 1: than a commissioner, because I'm not sure if you'll ever

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Speaker 1: get that. I think we need a scheduling zar. Everybody

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Speaker 1: plays minimum ten conference games, one out of conference game

824
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: to help Like Ohio State can help out Youngstown State,

825
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: Washington could help out Eastern Washington, Bama could help out Troy.

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Speaker 1: If there's a regional team, you can help out. But

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Speaker 1: but I think I think the sports changing and pivoting.

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Speaker 1: I'm here for it because I believe it will deliver

829
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Speaker 1: more really big games. Yeah, I mean one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: That's the best part of that the NFL. Right week one,

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Speaker 1: you get Steelers forty nine ers. That's like the equivalent

832
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Speaker 1: of Georgia USC Let's rock and Roll, Baby Bill's Jets, Yeah, Giants, Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: you know that's that's really that one o'clock window, that

834
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Speaker 1: red zone window. There's always four to five games and

835
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Speaker 1: the one o'clock window are down to the final possession.

836
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Speaker 1: Then you get the Fox window. Then you get Sunday

837
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: night and Monday night. Now Thursday was you know, it

838
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: was awful, But by and large the NFL's quality. Every

839
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Speaker 1: window you get great games. We may go through Labor

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Speaker 1: Day window. I think LSU plays Florida State. It's like

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Speaker 1: I can live without seeing any other game. You have

842
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: this huge three day weekend to just own the world,

843
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: and it's a bunch of teams afraid to play each other.

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Speaker 2: You know, one theory I have going back to the

845
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty college football season, that was all on a whack,

846
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Speaker 2: you know, from a training regiment, from a scheduling regiment.

847
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: Beside Trevor Lawrence, who had a long resume and was

848
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Speaker 2: destined to be a good NFL player. The other four quarterbacks,

849
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Speaker 2: we got two in limbo right now in fields and

850
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Speaker 2: Mac Jones. We'll see. I mean, by the end of

851
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: the season they could be not viable for their team anymore.

852
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: And then you got Zach Wilson and Trey Lance not

853
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: even close to seeing the field. I think we look

854
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: back and that's an outlier for quarterbacks because it was built.

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00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: This is a great quarterback draft. But Zach Wilson played

856
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 2: nobody and why you typically does right on a normal season.

857
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Speaker 2: But remember the Pac twelve didn't play any out of

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Speaker 2: conference games. I think the Big Ten did to they

859
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: play all those teams they did in that season. Obviously,

860
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Trey Lance didn't even have a season, right so and

861
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: Mac Jones. One thing in the scouting circle I always

862
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: heard is, you know, Alabama didn't exactly tap out and

863
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: go home for the summer in twenty twenty. They were lifting,

864
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: they were ready to roll. They obviously are already talented,

865
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: and they had a huge advantage that season, and you

866
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: clearly see it when you get to the pro. Some

867
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: guys another theory is some of these quarterbacks like a

868
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: Brock Purty or you know mahomes that don't play on

869
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: the most talented teams in college are used to figuring

870
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: out ways to win. Or some of the Ohio State

871
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: and Alabama guys have they're rolling in with like Kevin

872
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: Durant Steph Curry on their right and left shoulders and

873
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: it's just not even fair, right they have a stack team.

874
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: So I think you see twenty twenty that college season

875
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: all out of whack for the quarterbacks, and then I

876
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: do think you see what the quarterbacks. You don't have

877
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: to go to the elite school. Sometimes you learn going

878
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: to the second tier power five school kind of learn

879
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: how to play, learn how to win.

880
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: No, this has been something I think I wrote about

881
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: this in my first book, is that it's amazing that

882
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback there's a quarterback from Miami of Ohio,

883
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: better than any Ohio State quarterback ever, Big Ben. At

884
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: one point, North Carolina State had Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson,

885
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: and Mike Glennon in the league and USC had like nobody.

886
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: If you really look, I believe this, you should go

887
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: to the college and not just sports. You should go

888
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: to the college that best prepares you for your first

889
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: job out of college. What prepares you for the NFL

890
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: never getting touched as a Buckeye quarterback throwing drag routes

891
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: that go for seventy yards to wide open five star

892
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: receivers with perfect protection, or playing at Purdue or NC

893
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: State or Boston College or Miami of Ohio or cal

894
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: where Jared got that, you know what kicked out of

895
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: him for three or four years. So if you look

896
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: at where quarterbacks come from, you know Lamar Jackson, Louisville's

897
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: a basketball school. You go out, go up and down.

898
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: If you go up and down the league like Josh

899
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: Allen Wyoming, like Mahomes, Nonpower, it's almost universal if you

900
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: go up and down. And even the guys that went

901
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: to the big schools Jalen Hurts got kicked around, had

902
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: to transfer, Joe Burrell, Joe Burrow had to transfer. So

903
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: getting pushed around, roadblocks, duress, not getting your way is

904
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: a huge component what job prepares you for the NFL

905
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: At quarterback one, throwing into small windows, running for your life.

906
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 1: Often the second best coaching staff on the field, Drew

907
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: Brees Purdue. You know Tom Brady goes to Michigan but

908
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: was battling for snaps at Michigan. So I think that's

909
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning for a long time was the only quarterback

910
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: for long time. Number one high school, number one college,

911
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: number one pick. Great. I mean he was for it

912
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: for a long time. That Lway was that Way high

913
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: school college, you know, pro and he delivered. But it's

914
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: usually I mean even Justin Herbert goes to Oregon good school,

915
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: totally doubted. You know, three star recruit grew up right

916
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: next to Oregon.

917
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: They were not loaded with skilled guys on offense, which

918
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: historically they usually are.

919
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had good oldlignment, but not good receivers.

920
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: One thing I thought when Trey Lance was drafted by

921
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, and I have one hundred percent

922
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 2: changed my thinking, and I've seen it with James Wiseman

923
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: and the Warriors, is you get this raw product on

924
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: a great team and it's actually easier. Actually think it's

925
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: the opposite. And you look this year with the rookie

926
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 2: quarterbacks Anthony Richardson, C. J. Stroud and Bryce Young. Right,

927
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm a little different than you on Caroline. I think

928
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: it could be a little bit of a rough year

929
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 2: the other two teams for sure, but it doesn't matter

930
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: like if all three of them are drafting in the

931
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: top five next year. It's a big picture play where

932
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: Trey Lance came into a spot where it was like,

933
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: we're competing to be playing late in January. Anything less

934
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: is unacceptable, and the core guys on the team, like,

935
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 2: they're not into losing, They're not into you figuring it out.

936
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: Like who on the Colts is really gonna get super

937
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: mad if he's struggling, right, I mean, they're going through

938
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: a transitional period right now. So I think when you

939
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: are a young quarterback who's raw and the expectations are

940
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: super low for your team, it's actually way easier you

941
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 2: get to figure it out. And that doesn't mean you're

942
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: going to become a good player, but you know, it's

943
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: very rare, Like look at what Kansas City did. They

944
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: gave him some breathing room and he's turns out Mahomes

945
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: a multime out liar, Like, well, Mahomes is not someone

946
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: to be used as an example. Even Josh Allen, they

947
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: had blown the place up. They ended up making the

948
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: playoffs that year, but it was a little lucky. Remember,

949
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: I think there was like an Andy Dalton thing that

950
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: got him in beat the Ravens or something. They were

951
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: a wild card, but the expectations were low and he

952
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: got an easy transition into the pros that if a

953
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: top team drafts you and the expectations were high, if

954
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: you're not like ready, especially clearly Trey Lance wasn't, it

955
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: can be overwhelming and probably derail your career.

956
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: So you know, I was thinking about this with Trey Lance.

957
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: A four year Jet scout came out and just said, like,

958
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: this doesn't work. He doesn't. He looks overwhelmed. And it

959
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: just goes to show you how hard drafting a quarterback is.

960
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example. So Mac Jones came

961
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: in with several red flags, not athletic, had a temper,

962
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: one year starter, surrounded by great players, then lands in

963
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: New England with a defensive culture, yet he had an

964
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: excellent rookie season. Trey Lance comes in, winning culture, big

965
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: kid mobile, Kyle Shanahan. It's bad. Like one of the

966
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: reasons I bought into Trey Lance was Kyle Shanahan will

967
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: figure it out. So I was like, oh, this will work.

968
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: So does it show you that if Kyle can't make

969
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: it work. It was just a whiff. I mean, part

970
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: of me is like like, like I understand James Wiseman

971
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: for the Warriors not winning, and it's not because Wiseman

972
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: can't play. He doesn't He's not synced up to Steph

973
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: Curry's timeline, right, Like, like I get them just saying, hey,

974
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: we got to get guys who can win. Now, NFL

975
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: is different, Like if Trey could play, they would just

976
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: figure it out. And I watched Sam Darnold with the

977
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: same personnel play and Trey Lance, Sam looked like Sam

978
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: looked excellent, And I'm like, we all talk about Lance

979
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: pretty has not a great camp. Is it possible you

980
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: live and you live and spend time in the area.

981
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: Is Sam Donald potentially the starter?

982
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: Well, I've heard that Kyle's had a long love affair

983
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: would be strong. But he's always liked the player, and

984
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: he saw what his strengths are in his offense, and

985
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: let's face it, he views the quarterback position. If you

986
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: remove Trey, I would say a little different than most

987
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: like what the Andy Reids of the world and some

988
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: of these you know coaches in the league want a

989
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: little different than what Kyle Shanahan wants and some of

990
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: his stuff you know he's never had in all of

991
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: his successful years. You know, they had success with Matt

992
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: Job in Houston, obviously, Matt Ryan, Jimmy Garoppolo. Sam is

993
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: the best arm of any of those guys. Yes, And

994
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: I think Sam fair or not, was in shitty situations

995
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: that if you put let's just say a tray or guy,

996
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: it would have been worse. I mean, no one was

997
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: winning in the situations he was in with Adam Gase

998
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: and even in Carolina. And I do think that brock

999
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: Perty is not going to get treated like some top

1000
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 2: ten quarterback and if things are rocky and don't look

1001
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: like last season, he won't go to the bullpen. It

1002
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: was no different than last year. If Trey Lance hadn't

1003
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 2: broken his ankle and gone four or five six games,

1004
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 2: I don't know the exact number and then up and down,

1005
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: he would have gone to Jimmy Garoppolo. He was not

1006
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 2: given him seventeen games because that's not how this team

1007
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: is built. So I think there is tangible pressure on Perty, who,

1008
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: as he stated over and over, is going to be

1009
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: as lock starter for Pittsburgh. But he doesn't get to

1010
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: just go like zero to three. If they lose Week one,

1011
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 2: which is a very losable game on the road, they're

1012
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: a favorite. So that means Tomlin's an underdog. It's just

1013
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 2: gonna be a tough environment against a really good defense.

1014
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: I just he will go to the bullpen. Now, I

1015
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 2: don't know if that's Week two, week four, But Perty

1016
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: doesn't just get the leash of most of these blue chip,

1017
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: highly paid quarterbacks. And that's you know, part of this conversation.

1018
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything like a conversation over these

1019
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: backup quarterbacks for an elite team. It's it's they're an

1020
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: outlier situation, right, a Super Bowl contender who does not

1021
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: have a forty fifty million dollar quarterback. All the other teams,

1022
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 2: even in the NFC, Dak and Jalen, and then the

1023
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: top teams in the AFC Mahomes obviously Josh Allen and Burrow, Right,

1024
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: I mean, these are the premium players in the league,

1025
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: and then you got the forty nine ers. It's like

1026
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: Perty and Sam Darnold. So it just but we all

1027
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: kind of believe in him because we saw what they could.

1028
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: They could have beat the Eagles of Party doesn't get

1029
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: hurt the way they were playing, but there is like

1030
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: this kind of elephant in the room weirdness with their quarterback.

1031
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 2: And that's just kind of the way it's been since

1032
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 2: Kyle's been there, because ultimately Trey Lance didn't work out

1033
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: because they were hoping that he would become that guy.

1034
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: So I think an interesting situation. I had a buddy,

1035
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: Steve Kime used to run Arizona. Yeah, he was at

1036
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles camp last several days and he texted me

1037
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: the other day He's like, they are really good, and

1038
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: you know, Shane Steiken is one of these guys. This

1039
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: was Brian Dabele. So Brian Dabele was being talked about.

1040
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: I was getting comments about him, like three years when

1041
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: he got the Buffalo job. I'd get guys or like

1042
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: watch this guy. And then then everybody figured out, like

1043
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: when Josh Allen exploded, it's like, oh, so I thought

1044
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: the Chargers were going to hire Brian Dable because he

1045
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: had a relationship day Ball did with Tom to let

1046
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: go the GM. I think they roomed in college or

1047
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 1: they knew each other somehow, and they didn't. The spanosist

1048
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: actually said, hey, we want Brandon Staley because he was

1049
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: with a Rams, you know, you take somebody that's valuable

1050
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: away from the Rams, maybe he'd already been on the

1051
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: West Coast whatever, so and you get the situations like this. Well,

1052
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers also told me several years ago Shane Steiken

1053
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: is really good and Justin Herbert behind the thirty second

1054
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: ranked offensive line with Anthony Lynn literally through thirty one

1055
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Then he goes and he kind of resurrects,

1056
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: and that's the wrong word. He takes Jalen Hurts his

1057
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: talent and essentially makes him co MVP of the league.

1058
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: So he leaves much like Dabell left Josh Allen. Josh

1059
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: Allen's still good, but the mistakes go up. There's drama

1060
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,919
Speaker 1: this year and you could sense they missed day ball

1061
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: a little. No knock on Ken Dorsey. I'm really interested.

1062
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Hurts like Josh Allen. He's a franchise guy, moves, throws,

1063
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: great leadership qualities, but you know you work with them

1064
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: and you still have contacts. I look at last year's

1065
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: Eagles team. They played a bunch of injured quarterbacks, backup

1066
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and week quarterbacks schedule is much different this year,

1067
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: and I am interested. I'm really Pro Indie because of Steichen,

1068
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: and I remember when Sirianni called the plays, it was

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00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: a bit of an s show. He handed it over

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00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: to Steichen and instantly next week they were good. What

1071
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: do you expect from the Philadelphia Eagles this year? The offense?

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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of players in the history of league

1073
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: have had great seasons, right, But to be a great player,

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00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: it's doing it year in year out, especially a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's what separated Brady Manning, Breeze, whoever, all the top

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00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: guys every year. So there is pressure now on Jalen.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have a choice. They had to pay him.

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Speaker 2: One thing I've learned from in the scouting world talking

1080
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: about players and seeing guys that you've kind of bet

1081
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: against that failed, you bet on the person. And these guys,

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00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: I think they didn't think three years ago he was

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: going to be this good. But they hammered home how

1084
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: impressive this dude was. Yeah, how coachable he is, Like

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00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: Sirianni can yell at him. He's a coaches kid, doesn't

1086
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: mind it. Saban Lincoln Riley, he can handle it. This

1087
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: is a tough, mentally driven football is his life. Teammates

1088
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: love him. That's why they wally pipped Carson wentzel Fast.

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00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: Everyone gravitated to this guy and this is when he

1090
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: wasn't even that good. Yeah, and so to me, you

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00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: don't bet against now. Is he going to maintain like

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00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl game every single game? Of course not,

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00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: but I have I'm betting on him because I think

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00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: he proved last year. He's a much better thrower and

1095
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 2: like com Sexty, their team around him, elite offensive line.

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00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: Him and AJ Brown are perfectly This guy is kind

1097
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 2: of like the younger version of Russell Wilson. Jason Kelsey

1098
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 2: says he throws like one of the best deep balls

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: he's ever seen. So he's a great go ball thrower.

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Speaker 2: Devonte Smith's the stud. They have a tight end. They

1101
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: always got a million running backs. You're right though, anytime

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01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: you move the coordinator in a psyching to get to him.

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01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he could be the next McVeigh Shanahan. You

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Speaker 2: take a day ball, you take a quarterback as a coordinator,

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01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: and then you take Anthony Richardson. I mean, this guy

1106
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: would be a legend around the league pretty quickly, right,

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think the coordinator Ben Johnson, I

1108
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: think that's his name. The longtime Utah guy and bounce

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: around the league.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this is a good point. Stafford was

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01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: at his best with Jim Bob Cooter the coordinator. Okay,

1112
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Speaker 1: so they got a lot of guys in Sirianni. There's

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01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: a lot of cohesion there offensively. So I the schedule.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be harder, right. I think the NFC

1115
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: East is the Cowboys. Those games are going to be

1116
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: more difficult the Giants. The mismatch last year was pretty evident.

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01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: When the Eagles play the Giants kick their ass. I

1118
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: think that will get a little more competitive. Washington beat

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01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: him one game last year. They played the Niners in

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01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: the regular season. They played Seattle in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: So it's just going to be a little bit more difficult.

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01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: But I think when you get a guy that's proven

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Speaker 2: that he can play in his lineage shows Alabama, Oklahoma

1124
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: right from college, blue chip guy, and he's such an

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01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 2: elite character football intangible stuff, that's who you bet on.

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Speaker 2: So is he going to be an MVP every single

1127
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: league or year, I don't know, But is he going

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Speaker 2: to be a damn good player?

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Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, you know what, you made, just

1130
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: a great point. You said in scouting, you bet on

1131
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: the guy, and I think with quarterback, especially because you

1132
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: asked so much of that position and that guy. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't like Will Levis. I didn't like his attitude.

1134
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: I didn't like Baker. I didn't like Jay Cutler. Once

1135
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: I learned about nothing against Baker Mayfield. But I didn't

1136
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: like the hoodspu and the cockiness. Cam rubbed me the

1137
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: wrong way. Jamis Winston I thought was silly. I liked

1138
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, I liked Andrew Luck. I like Trevor Lawrence.

1139
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: I remember meeting Russell Wilson as a rookie. It's such

1140
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: a great point. I never thought about it that way.

1141
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: The guys I have been hyper critical of. I mean,

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01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: I had somebody tell me about Will Levis between the

1143
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: girlfriend on Draft night, the gun show at the combine,

1144
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: They're like, this guy loves Will Levis, Bryce Young loves football.

1145
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: And just because you're a great guy and love football

1146
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I mean, this is pro football. It's hard, right.

1147
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers bet a lot on Trey Lance.

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Speaker 3: Part of it.

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Speaker 2: He just doesn't see it when he's playing right. It's

1150
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 2: a fine line. This is one of the most competitive industries,

1151
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: probably in all of America to be a high level quarterback.

1152
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: But I do think Jalen proved last year of just

1153
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: seeing the field being much better as a passing quarterback

1154
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 2: and clearly benefits. You talk to the guys with the Colts,

1155
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: what was a big part of betting on Anthony Richardson.

1156
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: They like the person. My scouting buddies were like, he's

1157
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: really impressing these guys. Seems like a good guy. So

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01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: you kind of bet on that with the talent. No

1159
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: guarantee because you know you're taking a big flyer on

1160
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 2: the talent, but you kind of bet on the guy.

1161
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Speaker 2: You feel better about it.

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Speaker 1: The volume