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Speaker 8: pretty much all of them at some point, is that

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Speaker 8: they're all very welcoming and you can just kind of

438
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Speaker 8: dip in, see how many miles they're running, see how

439
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Speaker 8: it feels for you, see if it's a good fit.

440
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Speaker 8: Talking about getting to the track, The other thing is logistics, Right,

441
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Speaker 8: where do they meet? Is that going to be the

442
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Speaker 8: crew that you're actually going to do regularly? Based on location?

443
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Speaker 8: If you're in South Jersey, are you going to make

444
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Speaker 8: it to mccaren Park every week? Maybe not right, Maybe

445
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Speaker 8: you want to look at a Manhattan club where the

446
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Speaker 8: commute is a little bit easier. Right, So those are

447
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Speaker 8: the types of things that I would recommend take a risk.

448
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Speaker 8: Just get out there, shop around. Nobody's judging you. Everyone's

449
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Speaker 8: on the pavement pushing through, nobody's looking at you. Trust me,

450
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Speaker 8: nobody is looking.

451
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Speaker 7: No one cares.

452
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Speaker 8: Let's just go and just shop around, see what feels

453
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Speaker 8: comfortable for you, and make sure it makes sense for

454
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Speaker 8: you as well.

455
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Speaker 2: I think that's I mean, those are all really great

456
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Speaker 2: pieces of advice. I also think showing up with an

457
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: attitude that you want to meet new people, right, because

458
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: if you show up and you're there and you're staring

459
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 2: at your Instagram and there's all this stuff going on

460
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Speaker 2: around you, irl, then you're not going to have the

461
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Speaker 2: experience that you could have if you had shown up

462
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Speaker 2: and been more open to your surroundings, to meeting new

463
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Speaker 2: people and having that attitude like this is actually something

464
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Speaker 2: that I really want to get involved in. Right. Something

465
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Speaker 2: else I love that you mentioned here, which kind of

466
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Speaker 2: gets me into the segue of making exercise a regular habit.

467
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Speaker 2: You said, like, make it convenient for you. Conveniency is

468
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Speaker 2: the I would argue one of the top barriers to

469
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Speaker 2: making exercise or running a regular routine.

470
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Speaker 8: Right.

471
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Speaker 2: If you are doing things consciously or unconsciously to make

472
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Speaker 2: that experience difficult for you, then that's not going to

473
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Speaker 2: help you out when it comes to making running a

474
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Speaker 2: regular part of your routine. What are certain things that

475
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Speaker 2: you do to make it easier for you, Tim.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes I'll work in my running clothes. I didn't

477
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Speaker 1: invent that. That's a you know, that's a tales oldest time.

478
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Speaker 1: It's a great, great trick. Finding a friend to get

479
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Speaker 1: started to go into the community is what I did. Like,

480
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Speaker 1: from the outside, looking in the clubs can seem pretty intimidating,

481
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Speaker 1: but the fact of the matter is those clubs want you.

482
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Speaker 1: They want you to join, and so you know, find

483
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Speaker 1: a friend, show up at a practice. You don't need

484
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Speaker 1: to be the most extroverted person on day one, right,

485
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: you can just slow like I crept in started meeting

486
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Speaker 1: friends and that was a huge help. And now you know,

487
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Speaker 1: my best friends are in the running community.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

490
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Speaker 2: And on the note of working in your running clothes,

491
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Speaker 2: I used to have a roommate that would go to

492
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Speaker 2: sleep in the clothes you wanted to wear to bar

493
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Speaker 2: class the next day. But like I found that to

494
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: be so uncomfortable because I don't like to sleep in

495
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Speaker 2: a sports bra But like to each their own, I

496
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Speaker 2: guess yeah, to each their own. I want to keep

497
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Speaker 2: focused here on this idea of barriers to entry for

498
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Speaker 2: making exercise and running a regular habit, melody. When you

499
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Speaker 2: think about for you like what helped you stick with it?

500
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Speaker 2: What do you think about?

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Speaker 6: Well, you talked a little bit about community, and I'm

502
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Speaker 6: going to just I just want to bring it back

503
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Speaker 6: to back on my feet for a second here, because

504
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Speaker 6: that is such a huge pillar of what we do.

505
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Speaker 6: So for those of you who don't know, we're national

506
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Speaker 6: nonprofit and we have one of our largest programs is

507
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Speaker 6: in New York City. So we have different teams that

508
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 6: run at five point thirty in the morning, so morning

509
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Speaker 6: people with people who are experiencing homelessness or overcoming addiction.

510
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Speaker 6: And one of the things that when you guys talked

511
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Speaker 6: about joining in community is like I can be my

512
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Speaker 6: own worst enemy and can talk myself out of doing

513
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Speaker 6: something that could be really great. And I mean I

514
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Speaker 6: work it back on my feet. I know that what

515
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Speaker 6: we do works, and I still get nervous when I

516
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Speaker 6: am going out to a morning circle up to meet

517
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Speaker 6: our members. And the fact that I can go and

518
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Speaker 6: maybe say hello to someone else who looks like there

519
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Speaker 6: might be a little bit more uncomfortable than I am

520
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Speaker 6: in my own skin. Like that's what keeps me coming back,

521
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Speaker 6: the fact that I can help someone else to be

522
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Speaker 6: a little bit more comfortable. Or we have a big

523
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Speaker 6: we have a big mottol on no one's left behind,

524
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Speaker 6: so no one runs alone. So I know, even if

525
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Speaker 6: I'm going to be the slowest person, I'm not going

526
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Speaker 6: to run alone. And sometimes I just find that person

527
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Speaker 6: who's going the slowest and they're probably a little uncomfortable

528
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Speaker 6: and make them feel comfortable at the run, because it

529
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Speaker 6: is like that community aspect is like when you show

530
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Speaker 6: up at those circle ups, people see you and they

531
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Speaker 6: recognize you, and then the more you show up, when

532
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 6: you don't show up, they're like, hey, where were you?

533
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Speaker 6: And you become part of that community, like being that

534
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Speaker 6: active participant that you talked about Emily and making sure

535
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Speaker 6: that we're there to help each other overcome those barriers.

536
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Speaker 2: So such such good advice here, I'm going to pivot

537
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: a little bit and ask Matt to talk to me

538
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Speaker 2: about his last bad run.

539
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Speaker 5: I think my philosophy on a bad run's changed because

540
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Speaker 5: you know, I think I used to think that I

541
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Speaker 5: got to go out, I have to hit every mile

542
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Speaker 5: at the pace I'm trying to hit it a And like,

543
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Speaker 5: the more I've had this philosophy of listening to my body,

544
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Speaker 5: that's kind of changed. So like, technically, if I would

545
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Speaker 5: say my last run, you know, because like I went

546
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Speaker 5: out there with every intention of running all twenty miles

547
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Speaker 5: and we stopped numerous times, But that's because I'm listening

548
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 5: to my body. Before I would have been like, that

549
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 5: was a horrible run, but the objective was accomplished. You know,

550
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 5: we got our miles in, we didn't cramp, we didn't

551
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Speaker 5: get hurt, and I guess depending on who you asked,

552
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Speaker 5: that would have been a great run. But for us

553
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Speaker 5: it was enough because we hit our mile point.

554
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Speaker 2: Cheryl okay, number seventeen on the horizon for you, have

555
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Speaker 2: you ever had a quote unquote bad marathon source poll?

556
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Speaker 8: I would say seventeen. It's hard to I think any

557
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 8: marathon that you finish is a good marathon, right, Any

558
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Speaker 8: marathon that you start and finish is a good marathon.

559
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Speaker 8: I would say that my worst performance at a marathon

560
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Speaker 8: was my very first marathon. It was the Los Angeles Marathon.

561
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Speaker 8: It was the hottest day ever, like on record in

562
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Speaker 8: LA and it was February. It was Valentine's Day, ironically,

563
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Speaker 8: and I think it took me five hours to finish

564
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 8: that race, and everyone kept saying, just finish the race,

565
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 8: don't try to pr all. You know, they were hosing

566
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Speaker 8: us down with water. But it was such a great

567
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Speaker 8: experience because I had never been to LA, and I said,

568
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Speaker 8: you know what, this is my first marathon. I just

569
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Speaker 8: want to finish it. I want to see LA And

570
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 8: they take you through all these wonderful parts of the

571
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Speaker 8: city that I've never seen before, only on television.

572
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Speaker 7: So I really enjoyed that marathon.

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Speaker 8: And I also ran LA because I knew I was

574
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Speaker 8: running New York City later in the year, and I

575
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 8: didn't want New York to be my first, so I

576
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Speaker 8: wanted to know what my body was going to do

577
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Speaker 8: over twenty six miles before I did it in front

578
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Speaker 8: of all of my friends and family.

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Speaker 2: You know, it makes me think of that saying that

580
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Speaker 2: someone would kill for your worst days, right, because I mean,

581
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that there's ever a good way to

582
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Speaker 2: describe something as slow or maybe fast. I know a

583
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Speaker 2: lot of us reference those perhaps slower miles as like

584
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Speaker 2: sexy Pace. Right, So there are plenty of people out

585
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: there that would kill for that five hour marathon, right.

586
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: And that other point that you referenced here about any

587
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: marathon that you start and finish is a good marathon.

588
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Speaker 2: I'll transition this into the topic of injury, a huge, huge,

589
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Speaker 2: huge hurdle within running. It sounds that naturally mastered this

590
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Speaker 2: idea of like listening to his body as to not

591
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Speaker 2: get injured. But sometimes even when you're listening to your body,

592
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: injury happens. Right. You are walking past this couch and

593
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Speaker 2: I break my toe, I am walking down my stairs

594
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Speaker 2: and I fall down three flights, like these are things

595
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Speaker 2: that I would do, and so you can't always prepare

596
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: for these moments, right. But I do think something that

597
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: I've had to learn this year and not being able

598
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Speaker 2: to show up to one of the starting lines that

599
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: I had planned, is that through these hurdles we get

600
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Speaker 2: to redefine what success looks like. For me, I was

601
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Speaker 2: talking about the value of getting involved in the New

602
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 2: York City running community, maybe more than ever in the

603
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Speaker 2: past year, and that for me was probably the biggest

604
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Speaker 2: win in a marathon build up that looked nothing like

605
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Speaker 2: I had thought that it would look like. On the

606
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Speaker 2: injury front, Tim, have you ever navigated a injury that

607
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Speaker 2: set you back from a goal that you had originally

608
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Speaker 2: set out for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I got injured earlier this year when I was

610
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Speaker 1: training for Ultras. It was my ankle and I could

611
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Speaker 1: no longer run for several hours on it.

612
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Speaker 4: I could.

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Speaker 1: So you talk about redefining what success looks like and

614
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: pivoting to a new strategy, right, So I took it

615
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: as an opportunity to try going fast for short distances

616
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: and figuring out what I could do and getting involved

617
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: in the community in different ways to stay active. Getting

618
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Speaker 1: injured is one of the loneliest experiences because everybody's like, oh,

619
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: speedy recovery, and you're like thanks, and then that's it. So,

620
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Speaker 1: you know, staying involved, finding somebody else who's injured, going

621
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Speaker 1: to rehab together, Like those shared experiences and those bonds

622
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: that you form through injured. Everybody gets injured really help

623
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Speaker 1: get you through it.

624
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Speaker 2: And I love what you said about ultimately when you

625
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: got back into the stewing of things with running, like

626
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: reframing some of your goals at the time and viewing

627
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: that as an opportunity keyword opportunity to like make that

628
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: shift and to try something new in the moment. Hard

629
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Speaker 2: to change that perspective. I also think, especially from my

630
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: injury journey, but really from most what someone will tell

631
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Speaker 2: you is that in that moment, that time on the sidelines,

632
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: like literally feels like forever. It feels like an eternity.

633
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: You're never going to run again, You're never gonna move again.

634
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: Life is over. Life is so sad. But in retrospect,

635
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: when you take some time to look at what had happened,

636
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: more often than not, you're like, oh, that was only

637
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: a month and a half, six weeks, two months, three

638
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: months even. I mean, I hate to say this, but

639
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: not that every moment is invaluable, but a year in

640
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: the scheme of things, you know, one moment you could

641
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Speaker 2: be sidelined for a year. In the next year you

642
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: could be having the time of your life. So I

643
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: do think looking for the opportunity and all that, You're

644
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: looking at me like you got you want to chime in, none.

645
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Speaker 4: I think you're dead on. I'm just I'm just agreeing

646
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: with you.

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Speaker 3: That's it, Melody.

648
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Speaker 6: Have you been injured yes, not from running, but I

649
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 6: am you know, a couple of years ago, I got

650
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Speaker 6: into the CrossFit phase.

651
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: Raise your hand if you've had a CrossFit phase.

652
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Speaker 7: Oh not as many.

653
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 6: I don't understand, right, And I still I still power lift.

654
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Speaker 6: But I hurt my back squatting two hundred pounds because

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Speaker 6: you know, still a little no big deal, but doing

656
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Speaker 6: it over and over again. I did hurt my back

657
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Speaker 6: because I just wasn't I was I was being reckless.

658
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Speaker 6: I wasn't taking care of myself when I was out

659
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Speaker 6: for I couldn't squat for a year, A year before

660
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Speaker 6: I could like squat a barbelle again. And it was,

661
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Speaker 6: you know, I feel like people who run marathons, like

662
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Speaker 6: we're type, you know, as I said, I think I

663
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Speaker 6: said earlier, like I'm not the dip your toe into

664
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Speaker 6: the water kind of per and I'm like, we're all in.

665
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Speaker 6: But that year of not being able to like I

666
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 6: couldn't sit for long periods of time, I couldn't stand

667
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 6: for long periods of time, I really learned how to

668
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Speaker 6: be in tune with my body in a way that

669
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Speaker 6: I've never been before. And you know what Matt said earlier,

670
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Speaker 6: like I didn't listen to my body. I would just go, go, go,

671
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Speaker 6: And it really taught me to listen and to just

672
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Speaker 6: also humble myself, like I don't Nike's Lula Lemon's not

673
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Speaker 6: calling me to be an ambassador guys, like this is

674
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Speaker 6: I this is like something that I'm supposed to do

675
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Speaker 6: for fun. And when I put so much pressure on myself,

676
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Speaker 6: like am I really enjoying it? It really taught me

677
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Speaker 6: to like start at the building blocks, go back and

678
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Speaker 6: like think about why I'm doing these things and is

679
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Speaker 6: it fun or is it ego? And now I really

680
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 6: enjoy lifting and I don't listen two hundred pounds and

681
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Speaker 6: it's it's I really enjoy it. Though I move and

682
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Speaker 6: I don't. I'm not in pain when I sit, I'm

683
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Speaker 6: not in pain when I walk, And and that's a gift.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a gift. And the idea that that time,

685
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Speaker 2: in that time of maybe not doing the thing that

686
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: you started with, right, is in another opportunity to try

687
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Speaker 2: something new. Definitely, definitely in my time, I decided that

688
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: I would buy a Peloton bike. Oh yeah, oh just

689
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Speaker 2: see a cheap pivot.

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Speaker 6: Oh I want one so bad.

691
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Speaker 2: Cheap pivot shout out to mirror inside of a Lulemon story.

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 2: We talked about enjoyment, and we're talking about obviously finding

694
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Speaker 2: ways to do more of that on the run. Cheryl,

695
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Speaker 2: what would you say is one of the things that

696
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Speaker 2: you enjoy most about running? Perhaps even articulating your why

697
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Speaker 2: why do you run?

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Speaker 8: I run because it keeps me sane and it keeps

699
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Speaker 8: me even even before the pandemic. I know a lot

700
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Speaker 8: of folks got into running as a way to kind

701
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Speaker 8: of manage the stress and anxiety of the pandemic, but

702
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Speaker 8: I was running to manage the stress anxiety of my

703
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Speaker 8: life years before the pandemic. And it really is important

704
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Speaker 8: for me to have the opportunities. As much as I

705
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Speaker 8: love community and running with the crews and running with

706
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Speaker 8: my team, it's really important to run alone sometimes for me,

707
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Speaker 8: and those mornings where I can just do my own

708
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 8: thing set the tone for my day is really important,

709
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Speaker 8: and I really enjoy that. I'm one of those offensive

710
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Speaker 8: people that runs with headphones. So some of you I've

711
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 8: been people have take literally taken pictures of me on Instagram,

712
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 8: like on their stories calling my name and not listening

713
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 8: and me not hearing. And then I see myself running

714
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Speaker 8: somewhere in the neighborhood. Don't do that, but it really

715
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Speaker 8: is an opportunity for me to really enjoy that, enjoy

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Speaker 8: the me time, so I really cherish that. And then

717
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Speaker 8: of course the community. I mean, you know, I was

718
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Speaker 8: thinking about injury, right, and when you're injured one of

719
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Speaker 8: the things that you tend to miss is the community, right,

720
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Speaker 8: because that's what brings you together with people, and just

721
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Speaker 8: finding different ways to stay connected is really important during

722
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Speaker 8: those injury times. I know, we talked a lot about London,

723
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Speaker 8: and we were so excited about that, but then you

724
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Speaker 8: pivoted and you had a wonderful time while we were

725
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Speaker 8: in London, and I said, wow, that's how you pivot, right.

726
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Speaker 2: It took a little trip to Italy instead of running

727
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Speaker 2: a marathon.

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Speaker 7: You little trip.

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Speaker 8: I wish I was in Italy when I was about

730
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Speaker 8: mile twenty two the London Marathon. But those are the

731
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Speaker 8: things that I really really enjoy are the me times,

732
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Speaker 8: and that's important that we don't want to lose that.

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Speaker 5: R Why.

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741
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762
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Speaker 2: headphones on the run, maybe so much so on the

763
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Speaker 2: volume note that you're kind of like in your own world.

764
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Speaker 2: We also have talked about earlier running meeting back on

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Speaker 2: my feet at five thirty. Matt's up at five am.

766
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Speaker 2: This brings about an important hurdle and an important topic

767
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Speaker 2: for us to address, which is safety. Right Obviously, running

768
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Speaker 2: in numbers can be a really important tool to feel

769
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Speaker 2: more safe on the run, especially super early or later.

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Speaker 2: I'd be curious, Matt, if you and maybe I'm asking

771
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Speaker 2: you this like as a woman, because I think about

772
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Speaker 2: this a lot when I go running at like six am,

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Speaker 2: six thirty in the morning. Do you think about safety

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Speaker 2: you go out in the morning.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's one of the privileges I have, is

776
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Speaker 5: that's something that you know, I don't really think about

777
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Speaker 5: having a girlfriend now, you know, she sends me screenshots

778
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Speaker 5: of the person who's picking her up in her uber

779
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 5: and when they're leaving the house, and I have accountability

780
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Speaker 5: partners when they're going to run. Who are females that

781
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Speaker 5: text me like, Hey, I'm going on a run. I

782
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Speaker 5: think there's an app that people was it shirly you

783
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Speaker 5: could drop the bar road id?

784
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Speaker 3: Yeah, road id. So there's a lot of stuff out there.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I'm very fortunate that you know, that's

786
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Speaker 5: not something that I have to think about. But one

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Speaker 5: of the things that I do think about in terms

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Speaker 5: of safety, just from like a body standpoint, is like,

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Speaker 5: let's get that to mail. Just listening to my body

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Speaker 5: like that safety Like it's like I'm hurting, but I

791
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Speaker 5: need I need to run sixteen miles today. Like I'm

792
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Speaker 5: just gonna get on I'm gonna get the exercise bike.

793
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Speaker 5: I'm going to get like an hour on the jump

794
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Speaker 5: rope and like simulate like the beating my knees and

795
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Speaker 5: joints are going to take in another way, yeah, opposed

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Speaker 5: to going out there and like pulling a groin or

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Speaker 5: pulling a hamstring and really.

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Speaker 2: Setting myself back definitely. And I think on that note,

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Speaker 2: we're talking about going out on a training run, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of safety things that you can keep in mind.

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Speaker 2: When you're going out on a training run, not just

802
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Speaker 2: for like your personal safety. Right, If you're going on

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Speaker 2: a run and you're going to be out there for

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Speaker 2: a long time, are you running in an area that

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Speaker 2: you know of? Do people know that you're heading out there?

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Speaker 2: And also, I mean we talked about fueling before, the

807
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Speaker 2: importance of having fuel on a run like that is

808
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Speaker 2: absolutely critical. Again, I mentioned that you go running often

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Speaker 2: at five point thirty in the morning. I remember when

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Speaker 2: I was volunteering with the members up in Harlem for

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Speaker 2: Back on my Feet. I lived about I want to say,

812
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Speaker 2: maybe twenty twenty five blocks south of them on the

813
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Speaker 2: Upper east Side at the time, and that was the

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Speaker 2: one run of my week when I was running up

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Speaker 2: there at like five twenty no headphones. My dad, like

816
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: years ago, bought me the most the ugliest love you Dad,

817
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Speaker 2: the ugliest neon like sweatshirt from Dick's Sporting Goods that

818
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Speaker 2: he could find and like gave me that to wear

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Speaker 2: on this five fifteen runs. So what do you think

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Speaker 2: about when it comes to safety at that time of day.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's part of the nature of what

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Speaker 6: we do and where where our members are. Is that

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Speaker 6: some of the areas are you have to be street smart.

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Speaker 6: I mean there are places in some cities. You know,

825
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Speaker 6: in Boston, for instance, one of the areas where we

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Speaker 6: have a team called Team Hope is on what they

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Speaker 6: refer to as methadone mile. It's not a place that

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Speaker 6: you want to be walking around alone at five in

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Speaker 6: the morning. And our motto is no one runs alone.

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Speaker 6: Part of that is encouragement, part of it is safety,

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Speaker 6: and part of is like we bring hope and light

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Speaker 6: and community to these neighborhoods and to these communities and

833
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Speaker 6: help to bring about change. But at the end of

834
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Speaker 6: the day, it's dark, it's a large group of people,

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Speaker 6: and it's really like talk, engage, be present, but also

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Speaker 6: be street smart. And you know, we have volunteered is

837
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Speaker 6: our core volunteers who monitor who's in, who's who's that

838
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Speaker 6: still out there and and we keep a tight, tight

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Speaker 6: role call on who's there in those morning runs. But

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Speaker 6: it is it's it's a serious you know, it's a

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Speaker 6: serious issue. And I have one of our volunteers in

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Speaker 6: Philadelphia who mentioned to me, she's like, my husband used

843
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Speaker 6: to get so nervous when I told him where I

844
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Speaker 6: was going to go. Run and and then he met

845
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Speaker 6: our Then you know, she became part of the community.

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Speaker 6: She met our members, she met our volunteers, and she's like,

847
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Speaker 6: we bring light to these areas five point thirty in

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Speaker 6: the morning. We are the bright spot that in running

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Speaker 6: those one mile, two mile, three mile runs. So but

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Speaker 6: it is like you can't run alone. No one runs alone,

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Speaker 6: no headphones and and you know, preferably flashing lights.

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Speaker 7: Flashing light.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any any recommendations on flashing lights.

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Speaker 6: I don't have any particular brands. I have a bunch,

855
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Speaker 6: but I couldn't tell you what the brands were.

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Speaker 2: I also think I mean that, well, that highlight right there.

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Speaker 2: Of wearing reflective gear is another really like we don't

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Speaker 2: talk about that enough. Luckily, a lot of brands, including

859
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Speaker 2: lul Lemon, like their logos on the gear is reflective.

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Speaker 2: So no matter what you're wearing, no matter what option

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Speaker 2: you pick, you don't need to be wearing neon yellow

862
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: to be to be seen out there, although US New

863
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Speaker 2: Yorkers have a have a thing for wearing copious some

864
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Speaker 2: mounts of black. But I want to I do want

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Speaker 2: to pivot a little bit. And I asked Matt perhaps

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Speaker 2: about his worst run. Tim, do you remember your last

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Speaker 2: really good run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the other day, the last sixteen. I

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Speaker 1: ran it with to of my buddies that I do

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Speaker 1: a lot of my running with. And the reason it

871
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: was so good is because the week before I had

872
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 1: a really bad run and I was just talking about

873
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: this with them on the run, and I use the analogy.

874
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: I said, you never want to go into a national

875
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: championship undefeated, right, You don't want to go into the

876
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: marathon having all good runs. And my buddy had all

877
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: good runs going in and then you had a bad run,

878
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: And I said, you know, that's a good thing. I'm

879
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: really glad we got that out of the way for you.

880
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: And it is a lot of the times it's the

881
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: bad ones that make the other ones good. Sometimes you

882
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: have a streak going and that feels nice and then

883
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: it gets a little bit warisome. But any run can

884
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: be good when you're with good people. The pace is fun,

885
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: you're looking around, you're enjoying it, you're in the moment,

886
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: and you get home safe.

887
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: I mean you're even saying here that like a bad

888
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: run could be a good run.

889
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 3: Oh.

890
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: I embrace my bad runs for sure. They're the ones

891
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: that probably give me the most amount of progress.

892
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: Right.

893
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 4: If I don't have a bad run.

894
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm probably not pushing myself hard enough or not going

895
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: after big enough goals.

896
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 4: So I love a good bad run.

897
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: I love a good bad run. I have certainly I

898
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: feel like I had at least one long run this

899
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: year in the build up for the marathon. I never

900
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Speaker 2: ran that I had a legitimate, like what felt like

901
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: an anxiety attack. Has that ever happened to you, Cheryl?

902
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Speaker 8: Yes?

903
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: And how do you get through the moments on the

904
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: run that make you ask yourself why the hell am

905
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: I even out here running in the first place.

906
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 8: It's interesting when you talk about anxiety attack. I did

907
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 8: run the London Marathon, and at the end of the

908
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 8: race this year, I had an anxiety attack, like I

909
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 8: could not breathe. I was pacing so well, I was

910
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 8: on the pr track and then it started going off

911
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 8: the rails around twenty two to twenty three, and I

912
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 8: had a friend who was pacing me, and it was

913
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 8: just it felt so good until it didn't. And when

914
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 8: it was over, everyone at the end in London, wonderful people,

915
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 8: Well done, well done, well done. No one says congratulations,

916
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 8: well done, well done, well done, And I was just like,

917
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 8: if I hear that one more time, but I literally

918
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 8: could not breathe and it was because I was in

919
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 8: my head and it was a great time. I mean

920
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Speaker 8: it was a three point fifty three. I told you

921
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 8: I started at a five hour marathon.

922
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 7: What am I having? So what am I having an

923
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 7: anxiety about?

924
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: Right?

925
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 8: And I made it too much and I forgot what

926
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 8: the marathon was about and why we were out there

927
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 8: running and the fact that I was in London, still

928
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 8: in the midst of a pandemic and was able to

929
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 8: run a live race.

930
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 7: So I did get over myself.

931
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 8: Thankfully, I had some teammates that were in the finish

932
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 8: area who talked me off the ledge and really kind

933
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 8: of right size things for me and said, what are

934
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 8: you doing? Get yourself together? But it happens, you know,

935
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 8: sometimes we lose the target. And like Tim said, everything

936
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 8: can't be a perfect run. And so now it's what

937
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 8: did I learn from that run? What did I do

938
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 8: that I could switch a little bit when I run

939
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 8: New York. I'm not trying to pr but there's always

940
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 8: a lesson that you can learn from those quote unquote

941
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 8: bad runs well done, well done in my British.

942
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: Also on the note of that finish moment, a huge hurdle,

943
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 2: just finishing a marathon. I'd love to hear about your

944
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: favorite ways to celebrate a marathon Barbecue? Oh, do we

945
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: have a preference on the on like what's happen any

946
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: any time? How do you celebrate a race well done?

947
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: I remember after my first New York City marathon, my

948
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: family and I went to peach Love's Emily. I ordered

949
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: the big Matt burger, came out and I just stared

950
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: at it and didn't take a single bite. I had

951
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: zero appetite, but I wanted to.

952
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: I wanted to.

953
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: I want to eat the burg. I drank the beer.

954
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: A beer after a job well done? Is you know

955
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: just it hits the right.

956
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: It hits the right notes for me as well, Cheryl.

957
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 7: I'm a pancake girl.

958
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 8: Oh I need yeah, I need anything brunch ish I

959
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 8: need on my plate and it needs to be super

960
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 8: super sweet. So I can't do the meat immediately after

961
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 8: a marathon.

962
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 6: Oh, I go home and nap and then I go

963
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 6: eat like got it? I don't every time I run

964
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 6: fifteen or more miles, there's a nap included in that

965
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 6: afternoon plan.

966
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: Matt, how did you celebrate Chicago?

967
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 5: I kind of celebrate after every run, like even training,

968
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 5: so like like, for instance, the last run we did,

969
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 5: I did like it wasn't it was like ten miles

970
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 5: at like five am. And I made sure we started

971
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 5: at five so that we finished at seven when Culture

972
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 5: Espresso opened because they had my favorite chcolate chip cookies.

973
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 5: So I just intertwined my favorite things into to ending

974
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 5: my runs.

975
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: I feel like we just talked about some of the

976
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 2: best barbecue and Brooklyn. But I have a feeling that

977
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: Matt might have an opinion on the best burger in Manhattan.

978
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: Ooh, cheeseburgers aren't my favorite food.

979
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: Wow, fun fact about Matt James.

980
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 5: I love cheeseburgers because I never, like, I think everyone

981
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 5: loves well, I'm not gonna say everybody. I think a

982
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 5: lot of people consider like fine dining, like a steak

983
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 5: or something expensive. But like, we didn't eat steak growing up,

984
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 5: you know, we ate, Like I just ate a lot

985
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 5: of cheeseburgers. So I think the best burger that I've

986
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 5: had though in the city is in the East Village.

987
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 5: It's called Whitman's and they like have this thing where

988
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 5: they like put cheese into the burger, so when you

989
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 5: cook it and you like bite into it, it's like

990
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 5: there's cheese coming out. And they have really good tater

991
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 5: tots too.

992
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna challenge you to go have the burger at

993
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: Mercer Kitchen.

994
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 3: I've never had it on the list.

995
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 6: It is a good burger.

996
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: It's good.

997
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 7: It's a good burger.

998
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: It's a good burger. Well, I am going to open

999
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: up our little panel to some questions. If you have

1000
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: a question, raise your hand, ask the question. I'll reiterate

1001
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: the question for the people that are listening to this

1002
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: and aren't here, and then we'll answer it. It can

1003
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: be directed at anyone in particular, or it can be

1004
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: a general question. But don't be shy. Feel free to

1005
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: raise your hand and I will just point because it's

1006
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 2: a little bright up here. So, Cheryl, our first audience

1007
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 2: question is about consistency from Nicole, hailing from downtown Manhattan.

1008
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: She wants to know if you've ever taken a break

1009
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: from running and how that impacted you.

1010
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 8: I actually have not taken a break from running, so

1011
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 8: I tend to run year round, but I have started

1012
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 8: listening to my body more Matt, and it's hard. It's

1013
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 8: hard to listen to your body. So sometimes what I

1014
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 8: will do is not do the mileage. So I will

1015
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 8: run because I get the mental health benefits of running,

1016
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 8: but I may not go as far or as hard.

1017
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 8: It might just be more easy runs. But I just

1018
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 8: get so much out of getting out there and being

1019
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 8: one with the pavement that I haven't really taken breaks.

1020
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 8: But I do listen to what's happening and maybe scale back.

1021
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 8: If I'm not training for anything, there's no purpose to

1022
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 8: go out there and kill yourself. Enjoy it and really

1023
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 8: embrace the time in between. I mean, I've run so

1024
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 8: many marathons sometimes I overbook myself and so I feel

1025
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 8: like I'm always training for a marathon, and that just

1026
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 8: is a recipe for burnout. So different ways to just

1027
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 8: balance it is more of what I do.

1028
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: The question that just came in from the audience advice

1029
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: on running a virtual marathon? Has anyone at the front

1030
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 2: of the room run a virtual marathon? Oh, I see

1031
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: head shaking, head shaking one. No, okay, it wasn't New

1032
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 2: York in real life. I want nothing to do with it.

1033
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: Nope.

1034
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 5: I ran a virtual half okay, the seawees that a

1035
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: bunch that Lulu Limit puts on. I actually ran it

1036
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 5: in person as well when it was in Vancouver and

1037
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 5: it was one of It was the best race I've

1038
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 5: ever rann. It was I encourage everyone if you had

1039
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 5: the means to get out there when they put it

1040
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 5: back on, like you're running along the seaboard?

1041
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 7: Is that called seawall?

1042
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 3: Seawall?

1043
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 2: I had not.

1044
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, yeah seaball, but no, So they had

1045
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 5: that virtual and I just made sure I had fun.

1046
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 5: Like I did it with a bunch of friends. I

1047
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: was like, hey, I'm going to be running at this time,

1048
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 5: Like does anyone want to do it with me? And

1049
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 5: people who are training for marathons like sure, like I

1050
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 5: need to get thirteen in, Like let's do it. And

1051
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: we just made an event and like there was no pressure.

1052
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 5: It was like just celebrating run and like having fun

1053
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 5: with it was like the biggest thing for me because

1054
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 5: when something stops being fun, then I just shy away

1055
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 5: from it.

1056
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1057
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: From a logistics pov Cheryl, what logistical recommendations do you

1058
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: have for our friend who's going to be running a

1059
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: virtual marathon?

1060
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 7: Don't do it in the city.

1061
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 3: Why do you see that.

1062
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 8: It's just it's too much to try and schedule around.

1063
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 8: In my opinion, I did London virtually in twenty twenty

1064
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 8: and I went up to Rockland Lake and I did

1065
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 8: it in Rockland And what was really nice about that

1066
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 8: is I just told folks, hey, I'm running the virtual

1067
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 8: London if you want to get some miles with me,

1068
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 8: and so because it's loops, people would come and say, hey,

1069
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 8: I'll run to loops with you, and so I really

1070
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 8: had company the entire time. And what was nice about

1071
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 8: it was London required everyone to run the virtual like

1072
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 8: on the same day, so there were other people out there.

1073
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 8: Because after you see people running around like five or

1074
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 8: six times, you know that they're probably doing the same

1075
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 8: thing you're doing. But it also was uninterrupted. You didn't

1076
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 8: have to worry about excuse me, traffic, people cutting you off.

1077
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 8: It's just so much anxiety. And it's hard enough to

1078
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 8: run twenty six miles without crowds and support.

1079
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 7: So really think about the route.

1080
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 8: Make it scenic. Rockland is really beautiful. You don't have

1081
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 8: to run the loops. You can also kind of do

1082
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 8: the outer parts as well. But I'm sure there are

1083
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 8: other places that are beautiful palisades, but just try not

1084
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 8: to do it in the city because it just it's

1085
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 8: too much in my opinion.

1086
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: So I ran a virtual in New York City marathon

1087
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: in New York City. I actually really liked it. I

1088
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: started it, I think at like maybe five forty five

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Speaker 2: am at Engineers Gate. I did basically what was a

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Speaker 2: clockwise outer loop perimeter of Central Park and then went

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00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: down over the Queensboro through Brooklyn, back in over the

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Speaker 2: Manhattan and then up the West Side Highway. Shout out

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Speaker 2: to Alec who was cheering for me on the West

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Speaker 2: Side Highway. My advice if you're gonna do a city marathon,

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Speaker 2: whether it's a half or a full or even just

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00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: like a city virtual race, first of all, have like

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00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: support in some way. So if someone can be riding

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00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: a bike while you're running, that is so clutch. But

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00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: also it could be something as simple as like someone

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Speaker 2: having water for you, meeting you at like an exact coordinate,

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00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: or maybe like you have a bunch of friends who

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00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: like at different points are like holding gels for you, that, like,

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00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: just like a regular marathon, gives you something to look

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00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: forward to. Which I think is really special. But yeah,

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00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: like let people know what you're doing. That's my biggest

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00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: piece of advice because again, like it can be really lonely.

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00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: I would say running a virtual marathon can be as

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Speaker 2: lonely maybe as being injured. So be very strategic about

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: how you make that decision to go about it. And

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00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: again the fueling and like the water stations that you

1111
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: can set up super super critical. What advice would you

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00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: offer for the virtual marathon?

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Speaker 1: Tim, Honestly, you covered most of it. I don't disagree

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00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: with Cheryl. Maybe for your first one, get out of

1115
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: the city or find a route like the West Side

1116
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: Highway or Central Park where there's no cars.

1117
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 4: The red lights are horrible.

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00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: I somehow only stopped at one that it was miract.

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00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 4: Have a hard time believing that.

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Speaker 2: It's Strava. Man, it's on strong.

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00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: I think I caught one green light my solo through

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00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: New York. It was torture. But yeah, get friends involved.

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00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: Best advice, let people know for sure.

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00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: Great question from the audience about goal setting. I'm going

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00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 2: to make this applicable to like all running cool. The

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00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: question is, how do you decide what goal you want

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00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 2: to set when it comes to your running Do you

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00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: want to kick us off to Tim?

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00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Goals for me are one of the most stressful things

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00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: about running. I try not to pick my goal until

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00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: race day, believe it or not. I try my best

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00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: to put myself in a good position to know that

1134
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: I will be happy with the progress that I've made

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00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: over my training block. And then I wake up on

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00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: the race day and I say, all right, this is

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Speaker 1: what I'm going to try to bust out today. I

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00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: think that there's this obsession with your marathon time. I

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00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: want to break three, I want to do two forty five,

1140
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: I want to do I want to break four. I

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00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: go about it from a pace perspective, because that's what

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00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: all my training is is, is all right, let's try

1143
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: to hold seven minute pace or eight minute pace for

1144
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: this long And I'm going into New York saying I

1145
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: want to hold this pace or I would be really

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00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: happy with this pace and not worrying so much about

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00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: the time because time is a flat circle and we

1148
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: don't need to worry about it.

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00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: Wow, time is a flat insight So insightful, Cheryl, talk

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Speaker 2: to me about your thoughts on setting smart running goals.

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Speaker 7: I should have taken notes because Tim is dropping some jewels.

1152
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 8: Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: This will be live on the Hurdle Feed coming this Thursday.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. EMILICHA.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would really try to stay away from a

1156
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 8: hard and fast target. When I tend to train, I

1157
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 8: look at a pace range and try to kind of

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Speaker 8: stay within that range, and then I look at the

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Speaker 8: different types of runs that I'm doing in the training

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00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 8: and then kind of target that that's just to hold

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Speaker 8: some integrity of my runs so that I'm not just

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00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 8: out there not being strategic, but also not putting too

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00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 8: much pressure on like Tim said.

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Speaker 7: The actual time.

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Speaker 8: So if you kind of know your body, you know

1166
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 8: your ability, you know when you're pushing yourself too hard

1167
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 8: and you know when you're not pushing yourself hard enough.

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Speaker 8: So in training, just trying to find that nice comfortable

1169
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 8: medium determining where it is. Usually those are the first

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Speaker 8: few weeks of training where you just don't set a goal,

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Speaker 8: you just kind of see where your body is, especially

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00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 8: after this pandemic where we were all kind of all

1173
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 8: over the place. I mean, we didn't really know what

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00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 8: our bodies were going to do when we really started

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 8: training again, and so it was like, let's just kind

1176
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 8: of see where it's at, and then a few weeks

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Speaker 8: you'll settle into a pace that's comfortable and then maybe

1178
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Speaker 8: just push yourself a little bit on some of those

1179
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 8: runs and it'll all work itself out at the end.

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Speaker 2: I also think it's like kind of important to stress that, like,

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00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: not all your goals need to have anything to do

1182
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: with pace or time, right, like the goal of making

1183
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: sure that you're having a good time on your run

1184
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: and setting specific goals that again have nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with that time. And not to judge again, and I

1186
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 2: say this all the time, but don't judge your beginning

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01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: too harshly. Make sure that your goal is just that

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01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: it's your goal, right. I think oftentimes it's super easy,

1189
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Speaker 2: especially in the age of social media, get roped into

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Speaker 2: that comparison trap. If I'm not running this fast or

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01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: doing this thing or running with this group, then I'm

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01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: doing it wrong. Nah, Like ask yourself, like what is

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Speaker 2: it that you really want? And then move forward from there.

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Speaker 2: The last question of the night pre race meals. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna kick this one off with.

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Speaker 7: Matt James.

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Speaker 3: Oh Man.

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Speaker 5: If you've ever seen The Office, you know how Michael

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Speaker 5: Scott carverlated before, I wouldn't do it on race day,

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Speaker 5: So I would say for me personally, I just go

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Speaker 5: to whatever my comfort food is and it just happens

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Speaker 5: to be pasta. So that night before I don't eat

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01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 5: like you know, like a like a someone who's been starving.

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01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 5: I just eat something that is going to fuel me

1205
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 5: through the day, and then after the race that you

1206
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 5: like I've been starting. But I like, like everyone said

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Speaker 5: on the panel, just like not doing something different. It's like, oh,

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01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 5: I've heard that you get a lot of nutrients from liver,

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01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 5: so I'm gonna have six livers tonight.

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Speaker 3: It's like, like, don't do that.

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Speaker 5: Like, find something that is that's your comfort food and

1212
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 5: it's going to fuel you through the day, and then

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01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 5: go crazy after.

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Speaker 2: Sex whole livers. Tim, how do you feel for race?

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Speaker 1: I think I think you know how I feel about

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Speaker 1: what I drink, which is I have a glass of

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01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: red wine before every big race, and it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a symbol for me to relax and not take it

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01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: so seriously.

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Speaker 4: It's not life or death. And so I've passed that

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01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 4: tradition on to some people. And I know him eats

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01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 4: no food.

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Speaker 2: He only drinks it.

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Speaker 1: Pairs nicely with a I do pasta and grilled chicken.

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01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: I cook at myself always every time.

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Speaker 2: Superstition.

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Speaker 4: You it's it's a control thing. I think, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: all let that one go for now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, grilled chicken, pasta, one dish, right, not going crazy,

1230
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: and then a glass of red wine.

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01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's it, Melody.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gluten free and have been for many, many years,

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Speaker 6: and I have found that sweet potatoes tend to be great.

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01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 6: But I start like nothing new on race day. Once

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Speaker 6: I start getting up into the higher mileage, even if

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Speaker 6: I'm only training for like a half, I start having

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Speaker 6: those meals like the meal I have the night before

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01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 6: is not very different than the meal I had the

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Speaker 6: week before my long run. A little hack that I

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01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 6: learned last marathon is I find as soon as I

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01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 6: hit like the fifteen twelve to fifteen miles, I get

1242
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 6: really hungry on the run and the fuel that I

1243
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 6: have with me isn't enough. So I have gluten free

1244
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 6: steel cut oats with cashews and dried fruit in the

1245
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 6: mornings for breakfast. And that was like when I discovered

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01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 6: that that was like a game changer for me as

1247
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 6: far as like keeping my energy level throughout.

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Speaker 2: You brought something up that's important that I was going

1249
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: to ask Cheryl about what are you eating in the

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01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: morning before.

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Speaker 8: I would just tell you to try it beforehand whatever. So,

1252
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 8: because you really need to know how your food digests,

1253
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 8: that's really important. And so if I'm out in Staten

1254
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 8: Island at seven o'clock, I usually start eating banana and

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01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 8: peanut butter on a bagel on the bus, and so

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Speaker 8: I'll have like half of that on the bus, and

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Speaker 8: then maybe thirty minutes to forty five minutes later while

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01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 8: we're hanging out, I'll have the other half of that,

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01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 8: and then I'll start fueling about and I usually do

1260
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 8: the Martin drink, So I'll do one sixty about an

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01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 8: hour before the start time and then kind of go

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01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 8: from there. That's just trial and error over the years,

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01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 8: but you really have to think about that ahead of time,

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01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 8: especially for New York because you spend so much time

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Speaker 8: on Staten Island.

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Speaker 7: I can't stress that enough.

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Speaker 8: If you run other marathons, you can just leave your

1268
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 8: hotel room if they're out of town and just cross

1269
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 8: the street and you're at the starting line.

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Speaker 7: You can't do that for New York.

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Speaker 8: So you really need to pack your lunch and pack

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01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 8: your breakfast, eat it on the ferry, eat it on

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01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 8: the bus however you're getting there, and just be strategic there.

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01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 8: But know how this stuff digests, because that's the last

1275
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 8: thing you want is to be waiting on the line

1276
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Speaker 8: and don't make it on time.

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Speaker 2: Oh the rule, the golden rule. Nothing new on race day.

1278
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: The way that we're going to end this here today.

1279
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 2: One of the most popular questions I get is people

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: asking me for running playlists. I don't offer them. I

1281
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: don't have anything good to like completely wholly put into

1282
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: the world, because my running playlist has been a compilation

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01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: of every song I've ever run to since I was

1284
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: in college and started running. I embarrassingly enough, have a

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01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: song that all unveil after you all unveil what your

1286
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: most embarrassing song on your running playlist is? Right now,

1287
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: I'll start, Okay, I'll kick this off. My most embarrassing

1288
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: song on my running playlist is about Us by Broke Cogan.

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01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: Are you serious?

1290
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding.

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01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: She's a musician.

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01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 7: She was back to day.

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01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: You're a few years younger than me.

1294
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 3: I watched I watched The Hogan Knows best the reality.

1295
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah she has. She she has some tracks, all right,

1296
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: embarrassing running music, Oh my god. Please.

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 6: I So I have the running list that you have

1298
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 6: where it's everything I've ever listened to since I started running.

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 6: But I also have the stuff that, like, I won't

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 6: let other people listen to. But I think it's like

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 6: like this theme song from the anime Your Name, but

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 6: it's like Japanese and like fall on, like Japanese bop

1303
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 6: and it's awesome. But if anyone else walked in, there'll

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01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 6: be like, what are you listening to?

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Speaker 4: Tim, I'm not embarrassed by this, Okay, just put that

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Speaker 4: into club.

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Speaker 2: By not embarrassing at all. I'm exacintely on my own.

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 4: But weird a weird, a weird song. It's an outlier

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Speaker 4: in the rest of the playlist, So.

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Speaker 8: Okay, But Cheryl, I was gonna say, fifty cent is

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Speaker 8: probably half of my playlist.

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Speaker 7: I'm just kidding on.

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Speaker 8: I think what's embarrassing about my playlist is that it's

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Speaker 8: super super ratchet. So if anybody who's run with me

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01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 8: and heard Sarah's shaking her head, it's super super ratchet,

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01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 8: like so much so that you're like Cheryl listens to that,

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01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 8: but for some reason, it takes me there.

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Speaker 7: It works for me. I think it was all those years.

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm a little bit older than many of

1320
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 8: you listening to NWA and ice Cube and all of

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01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 8: them back in the early early nineties.

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Speaker 7: It was really really raw.

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Speaker 8: So that's what really is probably embarrassing because some things

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Speaker 8: you don't want to play out loud, but you know,

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Speaker 8: it is what it is.

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Speaker 7: It gets us through the twenty six miles.

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Speaker 5: I would say it's all the same genre because, like

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Speaker 5: I was saying, for the first marathon or half I ran,

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01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 5: I was like super jitiery and stoked to run, so

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Speaker 5: I came out like a cannon. So when I run,

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Speaker 5: I like.

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Speaker 3: To listen to like soothing music. So it's all R

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01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: and B music and a lot of Laurn Hill.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna hit us with like it

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Speaker 2: was all classical.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, not classical. No, I can't go, I can't

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01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 3: fall asleep. I just need to be there.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking us Lauren Hill. Nothing could be embarrassed about that.

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Speaker 5: A lot of Lauren Hill.

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Speaker 2: Awesome. Well, I do want to get around of applause

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01:07:54,360 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: for our amazing panelists up here for Joe me this evening.

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Speaker 2: I also do again want to thank our friends at

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Speaker 2: Lululemon for hosting us tonight. As I mentioned, there are

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Speaker 2: a slew of raffles in the back and all of

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Speaker 2: the proceeds from these raffles will go to Back on

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Speaker 2: my Feet. But again I do want to say thank

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Speaker 2: you to all of you for being a part of

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Speaker 2: this community here in New York. And of course also

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Speaker 2: for those of you that identify as hurdlers. I'm so

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Speaker 2: grateful for you. You know how it goes, another hurdle conquered,