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Speaker 1: is suggesting Howie pushed Jonathan Gannon out the door after

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Speaker 1: and sixty million dollars forty million dollars a year, and

426
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: you know it's just he's not a forty million dollar quarterback.

427
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott at million. Where I got that extra twelve

428
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: million dollars to get an extra tight end, to get

429
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: an extra dB, to get an extra offensive lineman. I'm

430
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: in good shape. Like this is salary cap league. I'm

431
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: not counting pinsion pennies here in terms of like, I

432
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 1: don't care that these guys make a lot of money.

433
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm all for. I'm as capitalist as anyone you're gonna

434
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: meet or listen to talking about sports. But the way

435
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: this sport is constructed, where you only have so much

436
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: money to build your team, you have to be smart

437
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: with it. If I'm gonna have of my cap tied

438
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: up in a quarterback, it better fucking be Patrick Bomes

439
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: because if it's not, I'm in major trouble. Back to

440
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinal job. It's why it was viewed as

441
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 1: such an uphill battle, because like it's just you can't

442
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 1: have a quarterback making that much who's not a Pro

443
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: Bowl player, who's not well liked, it's just a disaster.

444
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: Now back to Doc, he's well liked. Good guy in't

445
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: a solid player. He's just not quite good enough. And

446
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: when you pay for not quite good enough, you got

447
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: a problem. If I give a max contract to Janice

448
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: or Steph Curry, I'm pretty good shape. If I get

449
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: one to Bradley Beale, I'm gonna suck. Like this is

450
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: a business and you gotta pay premiums for the right assets.

451
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: And to meet Daniel Jones, I don't know those quarterbacks

452
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: like handing Hooker Richardson, Like obviously, once you start drafting

453
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: the second tier of college guys, it's a complete coin flip,

454
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: and there's a chance, like the difference of Daniel Jones

455
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: right now, and that guy could be like that guy

456
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: could suck, right, and then you're in trouble because your

457
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: quarterback play sucks. But I hear you part of having

458
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: a really good offensive coach build up your team, like

459
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: part of what Kyle Shanahan did, Like who's the best

460
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: quarterback that Fortys have had? Brock Purty, Like what brock

461
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: Purty was doing down the stretch was better than anything

462
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy did. And under Jimmy and Brock Purty like they

463
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: won a lot of games. So, if you've got a

464
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: really good offensive coach and you can build your team up,

465
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: you know your offensive play caller or your offensive head

466
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: coach can help your team overachieve. I like where your

467
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: heads at. Longtime listener, enjoy the content. As a longtime

468
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: Chiefs fan, it feels good to see the Chiefs one

469
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: another one, especially after trading Hill and supposedly rebuilding going forward.

470
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: What positions do you think the Chiefs need to reload on? Obviously, depth,

471
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: a receiver position and another edge rusher would be nice. Also,

472
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: why not Card to the Jets? Could you see him

473
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: being a good fit in New York? We'll start with

474
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: the ladder. You know, I've been around Derek since Freso State.

475
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: I worked there when we recruited him, and I was

476
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: there his true freshman year. I followed his career very

477
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: very closely in Vegas. I don't love the New York

478
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: market for Derek. I think the NFC South makes a

479
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: lot of sense. I think a lot of those markets

480
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: he fits. Tampa, Indie with that crew of guys or

481
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: not indie. I said indie, but I meant Frank and Parks,

482
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: Fraser and just Jim called well, I think he makes

483
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: a lot of sense in Carolina and even New Orleans, which,

484
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: let's face it is a college market. You know. Now

485
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: the same to are a big deal. But I actually

486
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: think Derek would be fantastic indoors. I actually do think

487
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: he makes a lot of sense also in Indye. I

488
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 1: think those type markets are perfect for Derek. New York

489
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't love. I don't love at all, So I

490
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: would recommend a lot of the smaller marketplaces, specifically the

491
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: NFC South and on the Chiefs. I think when you look,

492
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: they got a lot of good young dbs, and their

493
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: young linebackers look pretty good too, so their back seven

494
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: is pretty good. Now they got Chris Jones, who has

495
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: had an elite season, but you know he's gonna get

496
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: older and older. He's been the league a little while.

497
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: His next contract will be his third. But you did

498
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: just draft the produce pass rusher Karlovskis, who looks like

499
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a solid player. I think you can

500
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: never go wrong drafting oh and d line right. The

501
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: one thing Andy has shown. Look at the core of

502
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: your team over the years. Travis Kelsey third roundpack Tyreek

503
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: was a much later pick, but that was because of

504
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: character and stuff. But like Andy historically can find sweet

505
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: guys on offense, Shady McCoy secondround pick, de Shan Jackson,

506
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: second round pick, Isaiah Pataco, seventh round pick, Brent Sellick

507
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. Like you can get skill guys in

508
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: the later rounds. I think early on your first couple

509
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: of rounds, I just keep drafting the lines O, O

510
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: and D line, OH and D line because ultimately, I

511
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: think that's where you separate once you get the sweet quarterback.

512
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: Because Beach has proven that they can find these skill guys,

513
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: these dbs, these linebackers not in the top fifty picks,

514
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: I would be pretty freaking happy. If I'm a Chiefs fan,

515
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty bullish on where we're headed. Case fellowball brother, uh,

516
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: I got a question for you. I feel like Car

517
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: gets crapped on more than he deserves. So everyone talking

518
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: about where he can go to the Saints, Jets, Panthers,

519
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: But why is no one talking about forty great defense

520
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: weapons all over on offense, best tackle and good head coach. Well,

521
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: it's because of money and the forty Niners. You know,

522
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: they do have two young quarterbacks now that Jimmy's gone,

523
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: did equal like nine million dollars. So if they could

524
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: sign like an Andy Dalton, I think they would rather

525
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: have like that trio of Brock Purty, Trey Lance, Andy

526
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: Dalton or Colton McCoy or just you know, an older

527
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: veteran type and keep building up the team. Derek is

528
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: a my guest, is million dollar quarterback. Like if I

529
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: had to guess, if if you told me, let's just

530
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: pick a deal three years, Derek Carr gets three years,

531
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: what does it look like, I'd say three for nine

532
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: and fifty eight to sixty five guaranteed, you know, like

533
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: thet are not giving him that. And to me, he's

534
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: gonna have if we just pick a day, you know length,

535
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: if you just say three years, like that's the money

536
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: we're talking. We're not talking like three years forty million dollars.

537
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: You know. Let's that's now, that's not what we're talking here.

538
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: He's just you know, he's an expensive player. Derek Carr

539
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: his contract if he was another position, like if he

540
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: was a wide receiver or a corner he'd be the

541
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: highest paid guy by a mile at that position. So

542
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: he's just he's expensive. And I don't know. If the

543
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Niners they gotta pay Bosa, they're gonna have to find

544
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: a new right tackle. Um, you know they still got

545
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: some stuff they're working through. Okay, let's let's go with

546
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: the last question here. I need someone with cloud that

547
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: my brother will listen to. Since you believe knows football.

548
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: My question is this, assuming Lance sets let's say improves

549
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: by from last training camp, then does Kyle have no

550
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: choice but to roll with Lance? If he is showing

551
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: that type of improvements, he is one of only a

552
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: few people in the world who have that god given

553
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: ability to be at the level of of play. He's

554
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: highly athletic, He's actually not. Albert Brier wrote this last week.

555
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: His running ability actually underwhelmed the Niners. They thought they

556
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: were getting a better runner. I kind of did too,

557
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: because in college now this is where it's difficult. In

558
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: the Division one double A level, I thought he was

559
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: a really good runner. You watch him run in the pros.

560
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: He looks slow. He looks slow, unconfident. Also, I'm not

561
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: trying to poop poo your question because this is just

562
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: a question how had he improved by he hasn't done

563
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: anything since he shattered his ankle, Like he's he's not

564
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: able to play. And I think he even he said

565
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: on Quincy Avery, the passing coach you know that coaches

566
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: these guys individually said he had second ankle surgery and

567
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: he admitted it was a setback, so would be an

568
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: enormous stretch. Brock Purty has a natural feel for playing quarterback.

569
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: When you watch Trey Lance with he did not. Now

570
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: there are physical to me, some of his physical gifts

571
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: are in power and size, but releases slow, He's not

572
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: accurate and he's not that fast. So I I actually

573
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: was underwell owned by the guy that I thought they

574
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: were getting. And this is why drafting is hard. Just

575
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: based on the North Dakota film, I thought he was

576
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: a really good prospect. I thought he was a really

577
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: good prospect. But then when you watch him in person,

578
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: you go, oh, don't quite see it. So why this

579
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: stuff is hard? Man? I will never ever fault them

580
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: either for drafting him over from Mac Jones. Now, my

581
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: issue with the forty Niners is I would have messed

582
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: with justin fields like you got an inaccurate guy. Anyway,

583
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: you might as well go with the guy that could

584
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: fly and then see if you can coach him up.

585
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: You know, I wonder how different the forty Niners look

586
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: if Justin Fields is their quarterback. Maybe he's maybe he's

587
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: not a good enough thrower. No one would have known.

588
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: But maybe I'm selling pretty shure. But my point is

589
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: pretty being great or Lance being great, there is no comparisons. Yeah,

590
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't agree because I think Purtty is way better

591
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: than we want to give him credit for it just

592
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: because it's his seventh round pick and or the last

593
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Because I watched Pretty play, I'm like,

594
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: this guy can play. Now, do I think he can

595
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: be a top five quarterback? I don't, But I don't

596
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: believe Trey Lance can't either. Like immediately brought party came in,

597
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: it was like a top fifteen quarterback for the forty

598
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Niners over that stretch. Now, can't he maintain? Can't he sustained?

599
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. You obviously already had a major injury.

600
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Not totally his fault. The coach blocked one of the

601
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: best pass rushers in the league with a backup tight end.

602
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: But who knows. Maybe his arms screwed up for life.

603
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: Maybe it gets right better. There's a lot of unknowns,

604
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: a lot of variables. This is the hard part about

605
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: doing this right. Like in business, you have to look forward.

606
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: But for the most part, like if I'm an acquire

607
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: a business, or I'm gonna get a new clients, or

608
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: like it's pretty black and white, like this is gonna

609
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: pencil of this when you're dealing with just people, they

610
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: are the assets. There's so much unknown it is very difficult.

611
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: So when I question stuff, I do understand the complexity

612
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: and the difficulty of the business. That being said, like

613
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: you can still like a player more than another player

614
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: and go, I wish they would have taken that player,

615
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: But I understand the rationale of talking yourself out of

616
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: certain players certain times and getting to a certain decision.

617
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: For guys, right when you made the decision, Like ultimately,

618
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: they when they drafted brock Party, they drafted him because

619
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: they wanted to ensure they get him as an undrafted

620
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: free agent, right because if they wanted, if they loved

621
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: brock Party, they would have taken them the fifth round.

622
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: They wanted to bring him into camp. They wanted to

623
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: get him as a undrafted free agent. They had the

624
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: last pick in the draft, and they decided, instead of

625
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, praying we could land them with the signing

626
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: bonus when several teams would want to get him, let's

627
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: just draft him. That's ultimately what they did. And then

628
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: once they got him, they kind of fell in love

629
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: with him, and I was going to these training camp practs.

630
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: Kyle loved him in training camp. But when you do

631
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: what they did for Trey Lance, like they did infinitely

632
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: more work and they felt comfortable with it. And I

633
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: would say through two years, they have to regret that decision.

634
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they just do Hell, if they could do

635
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: it all over again, they wouldn't even have made the trade,

636
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: you know. But at the time, like I understood why

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Speaker 1: they made the trade. But looking back, which you can't

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Speaker 1: do at the time, I'm of your decision, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say they'd like a little

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Speaker 1: redo on that bad boy. I appreciate everyone listening, See

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Speaker 1: you guys soon. The volume