WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, March 4 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:11.160 It's Thursday, March fourth. This is Jaguars Happy Hours. Jack 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:15.280 Wars Happy Hour is presented by Duval Motor Company. And 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:20.400 now a guy who's college nickname was the Poutine Dream, 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:27.320 Jay P. Shall welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shadrick, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:32.320 Jeff Logman, and we have a busy program today, the 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.680 calm before the storm. The free agency storm is a 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:41.400 couple of weeks away. It's eerily quiet right now. We'll 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.960 see what happens in the coming week with the franchise 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.680 hag window closing next week, and then, of course all 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.519 heck could break loose once the teams start trimming players 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.320 free agency. Right around the corner. Were eight weeks away 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:01.280 from the NFL Draft starting in Cleveland, Ohio, So two 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.360 months ahead of draft talk, and we'll go around the 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.080 National Football League. Jeff Lackerman with us from his home 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:12.319 studio today as he is every week, and here we 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:16.080 are logs. You know, this is an early quiet time 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.039 around the Jags. There's not a lot of news coming 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.240 out of this place right now, but in two weeks 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:27.240 time that should change. It may be quiet for us 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.480 and for most fans, but make no mistake about an 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.640 inside the building, it is incredibly noisy. They have a 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:38.480 lot going on. They're trying to figure out exactly which 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.280 direction that they're gonna go in free agency. They're trying 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.560 to figure out who's going to be available in free agency. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:48.520 They're trying to stack their draft boards position by position 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.760 and overall and uh and they're trying to do it 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.720 with a with a new staff. I mean so um. 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.840 I think when you have an organization that has kind 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.240 of been operating for a couple of years, as are 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.480 a number of years, and has been efficient, it's probably 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.840 there's a little bit more of a comfort zone. But 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.959 when you have a new coach, a new design of 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:12.919 the organization, a new general manager, and some new components 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.200 to the personnel staff besides the general manager, there's a 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.800 lot going on. It's just that we're not hearing about it. 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.520 But trust me that Jaguars have a lot going on 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.480 and they're working their rear ends off right now. And 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.040 I think, well, we'll see the fruits of that labor soon. 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.000 You would think that early in free agency, the first 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.960 day or two, since the Jaguars have the most money 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:35.280 to spend in the NFL, that they'll be players because 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:39.079 they have plenty of needs that could be helped by 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.920 a veteran free agent player to come in right away 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:46.040 and play well. And and you know, JP, to be 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.560 honest with you know, you kind of wonder sometimes when 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:53.080 when Shan Khan made the decision to clean house and 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.880 then all of a sudden with the conversation that he 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:00.920 had with the media about the change and how he 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.480 felt it was needed, and he talked about how much 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.560 he was involved in the decision making throughout all of 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.480 last year leading up to the point where we're at 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.960 right now. You sit there and you go, you know, 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.960 he might be smarter than I think a lot of 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:19.600 people give him credit for. And that you know, you 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:24.160 have a situation here to where you have an amazingly 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:28.240 attractive situation. You have an organization that is flushed with 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:33.640 cap space, that has acquired great draft picks and uh 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:37.240 and also the timing of that with no pushing. And 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.400 I'm not saying that he predicted COVID, but I'm just 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.560 saying that with COVID in the situation that is upon 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:47.000 us right now, boy, I mean, there's probably not more 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.760 a more attractive new situation in the National Football League 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.840 than what the Jaguars have, so, you know, to to 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:56.440 be able to attract what he viewed as the best 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.920 of the best in urban Meyer. Obviously it worked tremendously, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.640 but you know, you just wonder, you know, what was 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.000 some of the decisions and you go back and really 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.360 were some of the decisions that we've seen kind of 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.640 put in play here in the last couple of months, 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:15.760 where some of these decisions may be made maybe longer 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.160 than that ago, and that now we're just starting to 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.320 we're only getting a glimpse of really what is happening 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.039 of the inner workings of this organization. But look, the 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.120 Jaguars are in in the catbird seat, so to speak. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:33.640 This might be the one year in the NFL's history 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.360 that you can improve your team more so maybe than 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.880 in the other year because of what's going to happen 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.280 with the cap situation. You're gonna see a lot of 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.560 people that are gonna be out of work, and the 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.000 asking price of a lot of these people that are 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.640 gonna be out of work, I think it's gonna drop significantly. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.599 And so if you're a team that has cap space 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.440 that has needs, which the Jaguars certainly fall into both 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:01.440 of those categories. You are in a great position to 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:05.040 acquire talent and in a great position to improve your 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.880 football team. And I'm gonna tell you this, JP, Yes, 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.680 they would be crazy not to try to improve their 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.039 football team, because the last thing in the world that 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.680 you want to do is to try to do something 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.000 like what they did or what they've called well and 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:22.120 Gus Bradley back in and that was to build through 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.440 the draft and build through you From looking I'm not 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.039 saying that can't work, but you've got to be able 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.440 to support a young quarterback who's going to be coming 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.240 into this organization. You've got to support them, and you 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:36.640 support them by putting good players around them. I'm curious, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:41.200 two legs, once these deals start becoming public, once the 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.279 newly year hits and free agency opens for business and 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.360 deals are made and contracts are signed, what kind of 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.720 deals might we see? Will the will the players want 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.560 maybe a shorter deal, and then once this cap expands 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.960 again a year or two out, maybe they get a 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.520 little more of the piece of the pile. I wonder 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.080 how much that would happen this year. I think it's 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.960 gonna depend on the player. You know, if you're talking 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.080 about a veteran player. Look, you know, you look, you're 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.240 trying to You're trying to maximize that. You know, if 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.440 you've got one contract left, You're like, look, I've got 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.320 to get all I can get right now. I've got 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.760 to get as much upfront money as possible because this 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:23.320 is my last go round. I'm not gonna go ahead 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.880 and enter the dance again in free agency. Whereas if 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.080 it's a if it's a young player and there are 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:33.280 some free agents, and the Seattle Seahawks have one at Griffin, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:37.520 the quarterback who was essentially I think five years old, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.400 and he's entering free agency, well for him, look, he 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:45.560 he might have two contracts, maybe three contracts, depending on 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.200 the length of the deals that he signs in his future. 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.560 So for I think a younger player, it would probably 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.640 be more beneficial to do a shorter term deal because 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.840 if you look at what some of the moneys are 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:02.159 being reported about, what is the expected TV revenue contracts 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.599 coming in out around two billion a year. I mean, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:10.440 you would be absolutely crazy if if you're gonna do 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.040 anything longer than a year or two because you want 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.600 to get back in free agency again when the TV 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.040 money is bumped. Number one and number two when the 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.840 gates are back open again and teams are making money 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:28.400 and concessions and ticketing and parking and everything else. You know. So, 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:30.720 I think it all just depends on the player in 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.480 the situation that that player is dealing with JP. But man, 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.040 if if I'm a young guy just entering free h 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.440 C and I've got you know, I'm not thinking that 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.960 I'm gonna be done until another seven or eight years. Man, 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.520 I'm gonna I'm gonna sign a short term deal and 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.680 then try to cash in with a big deal like 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.480 we've seen in the past once to COVID situation. Subside 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.600 TV money has jumped and things get back to being 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.559 a little bit more normal to be able to cash 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.240 in again on another contract very soon. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.720 That's Jeff log Whan. I'm J P. Shadrick. We're on 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.240 Tin Tin Am Radio in Jacksonville and on the Jaguar 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.640 social media pages each Thursday afternoon. We were talking about 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.280 this on another podcast earlier this week. Logs, you know, 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:17.480 the the idea of how many new players will be 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:22.080 on this final fifty three roster after training camp. It's 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.200 a one in fifteen team. It's a new coach, it's 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.360 a new GM. They want to make it in their 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:30.840 own likeness. So my idea was like, thirty of the 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.839 fifty three might be new faces to the organization next year. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:40.520 Does that sound about right to you? Well, it could be. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.160 And well the reason I said that because there's eleven 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.679 draft picks free agents coming, you know, undrafted guys that 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.559 they're gonna keep around. It's you're you're pushing a lot 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:54.559 of new guys right there. The one thing that JP. Look, 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.040 I mean it very well could be. I mean, you 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.000 could have thirty new faces easily with with fifty three 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.920 man roster. And then reality, you're not really just talking 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.559 about a fifty three man roster. You've got to expanded 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:08.199 practice squads and in a much more liberal situation because 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.079 I think the code rules are not going away in 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.000 one They're still gonna be around, so your roster is 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.840 really much bigger than But well, with that being said, 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.800 I think that you could see a significant change. I 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.880 mean you can see thirty new faces very easily, but 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.679 that's not just out of fifty three. That's out of 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.080 a much bigger number with practice squad and everything else. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.160 And I think though that the organization has to be 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.800 really careful. And when I say careful, I'm not trying 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.240 to say that that they're going to do something and 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.880 and and mess it up. But what I mean by 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.920 as far as the age structure, you know, your football 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.240 team that you have right now, the way it is 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.400 right now, is incredibly young. You've got eleven draft picks 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.240 that are sitting right there for you to you and 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.079 I think at some stage of the game you need 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.240 to start thinking how young do we really want our 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.000 football team to be? And because you know, you're gonna 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.319 have a great opportunity city to be able to acquire 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.040 talent and free agency because of the number of people 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.120 that are going to be looking for work because of 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.439 cat situations with other teams, so you're gonna be able 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.800 to fill a lot of those spots with free agency. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.600 Do you want to add another eleven rookies to a 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:18.920 football team that was already the youngest roster in the 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.000 National Football League last year or would it make more 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.400 sense to take the eleven draft picks that you have, 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.280 maybe package some of them together to move up for 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.920 one picks, in other words, trade two picks for one 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.040 that may be higher in the draft, or trade three 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.120 picks for one that may be higher or jp. The 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:40.400 even better situation might be is to trade one of 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:44.400 this year's draft picks for a higher pick in two. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:48.200 In a draft where you're you don't have quite as 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.840 much equity, so build equity towards the future. And if 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.360 you're the gentlemanager, you've got to be sitting there thinking 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.000 that would be a perfect situation because we're gonna be 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.400 able to improve our football team, and for you agency, 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:01.960 we're available and going to be able to do it 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:05.480 reasonably from a financial standpoint. We have a ton of 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.960 draft picks from last year, and it depends on how 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.440 they like them or how they don't like those type 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.680 of guys. And then with the draft picks that you 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.000 have now, leverage them into higher picks or future picks 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.360 to keep the age structure of your roster where you 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:19.800 want it to be, which is a little bit more 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:24.600 mature and not so young, so plenty to dissect. And 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.160 that's exactly what they've been doing since they arrived in 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.800 the office here, getting ready for the next few weeks. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.559 Free agency coming up two weeks away from yesterday, and 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.200 then we're eight weeks from the NFL Draft. We're back 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.600 in a moment. We'll hear a little bit from Rhese 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.640 Davis ESPN. He joined us today. We'll hear the full 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.959 interview on Monday on Jaguars dot com. 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So I would 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.920 agree with you in terms of of his legacy, I 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.160 mean Saban stands apart from everybody, but I would say 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.640 Urban and Uh because he's done it more than one place. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.400 He also won at Ukah. He wanted full and green 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.280 for that mad rebon everywhere. But I would say that 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.600 in terms of impact on the sport and changing the 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.680 shape of the sport, and Nick would be at the top. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.760 Urban would certainly be right there, but I'd also put 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:32.360 Devil Sweeney in that category as well. That's Reese Davis. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.480 ESPN College Game Day hosts joined us earlier today. The 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.920 full conversation will come up Monday on Jaguars dot Com 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:44.040 and Jack's social channels. So we appreciate Reese for his time, 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.480 and uh, well we'll get a little more into the 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.320 conversation of Urban's legacy as a college head coach. And 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:54.520 uh there's little conversation logs about a certain quarterback for 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.720 a certain university against South Carolina. Uh, Trevor Lawrence. So 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.120 plenty of conversation with Reese coming up. He's been at 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.520 this for a long time, So look for that coming 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.760 up early next week. Earlier this obviousason we had right 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.320 after the hiring of Urban Meyer, m kirk Herb Street, 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.160 We're just gonna go for the whole College Game Day 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:18.399 crew logs. Why not get them all on here? Why not? 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.560 I mean, JP, I mean, look, look, I think it's 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.879 great and and and here's the thing, and everybody that 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.879 you talked to when when we start talking about two people, 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.840 which is Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence, they have nothing 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.080 but great things to say. About them as far as 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.200 the quality of coach and the quality of where looking. 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.840 And many people may like or not like certain personalities 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.040 of one or the other, but the reality is is 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.320 that if you're sitting there trying to evaluate Urban Meyer 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.760 as a coach, there's no debate that he's one of 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.440 the best football coaches that there is on the planet, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.920 and that Trevor Lawrence is one of the best quarterbacks 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.280 that there is on the planet right now when it 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.560 comes to college football and on the sleep we gotta 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.320 wait and see how the transition goes to the National 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.679 Football League level, but many people expect that to not 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.239 to be a very difficult transition. So look, there's a 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.440 lot of things to be excited about and a lot 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.479 of reason to be excited, and and look, I'm right 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.760 in that boat. You know, you've got a coach who's 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:21.080 approven commodity. And this kind of reminds me going back 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.639 to nine when Jimmy Johnson made the jump from the 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.280 University of Miami to the Dallas Cowboys, and I was 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.720 actually able to see some of that firsthand with Jimmy 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:34.439 because that was pretty cool JP when I was a 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.960 senior and getting ready for the Draft. I participated in 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:39.760 a couple of All Star Games, one of them being 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.119 the Blue Gray which JP you know all about them, 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.720 the Crampton Bowling Montgomery. Yeah, absolutely, it was. Yeah, it 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:51.679 wasn't exactly uh you know, uh posh or anything of 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.480 that nature. I can say that, but it was good 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.440 football and it was competitive and uh yeah, there wasn't 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.160 a whole lot went on, and it was a Christmas 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.600 Day thing, so it wasn't exactly where you wanted to be. 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.160 But nonetheless it to look at the competition and when 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.800 we played ball, let's go and so it was a 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.840 great experience for me. But the East West Shrine Game 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.640 was something that was really nice. You know, they took 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.240 great care of us. It was a about ten steps 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:23.159 up from the Blue Gray Game. It was in Palo Alto, California, 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:27.000 and it was almost dangerous because they gave us they 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:31.440 had vehicles that were for the use of the players 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.280 that came there. So we had about four or five 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.399 of us of guys that were players and and we 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.080 had a van and we ended up going out quite 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.800 a bit. And one of the coaches on our staff 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:46.960 was Jimmy Johnson, and at this time, Jimmy wasn't named 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.479 as the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys yet he 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.240 was still just one of the coaches on the staff 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.760 of the of the East squad of the East West 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.280 Shrine Game, and Mike Godfried was our head coach, and 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.280 so got a chance to hang out with Jimmy quite 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.119 a bit, and he was relaxed, and nobody knew that 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:06.400 he was gonna be taking the Dallas Cowboys job at 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.919 that time, and maybe he knew that, No, we didn't know, 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.480 and uh, and so it was cool to spend some 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.360 time around him. And I've gotten to know Jimmy through 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.960 the years, and he's an outstanding coach. No, a couple 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.200 of guys and Darryl Johnson and Mark Stepanovski that played 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.280 for him for a very long time and had nothing 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.480 but going things to say about him as far as 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.200 him being a coach and getting a team to win. 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:27.320 And so, I mean, some of those same things I 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:29.800 think are the reason that people are excited about Urban 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.600 Meyer and Jacksonville. You know, you've got a great situation. 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:36.200 You're flush with draft picks. The Jimmy Johnson situation created 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.800 it with the herschel Walker trade. So you're not gonna 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:40.719 have a trade to get all the draft picks as 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.359 you've already got them. But but the excitement for the 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.760 coach and also the expectations and the excitement for a 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:48.960 quarterback coming in. You know, Troy and coming in the 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.800 Dallas Cowboys and here you got Trevor Lawrence coming into 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.679 the Jacksonville Jaguars are expected to be coming in. You know, 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.880 there's so many different parallels. It's gonna be excited, exciting 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.320 to kind of watch the growth of the entire thing 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:03.760 and eventually down the road and maybe hopefully draw comparisons 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.560 of the two. It will be. You know, we were 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:09.840 I was talking to Research Davis earlier today and it 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.720 was we're going through some of the things, the choke 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:17.359 that we were going through, some of the coaches that 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:19.320 have gone from college to the NFL, and there's been 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.919 some positives you mentioned Jimmy Johnson Switzer came in. It 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.159 was kind of a already set up and ready, but 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:25.679 he still had to go in the Super Bowl and 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.600 he did that. Uh, Pete Carroll, your guy obviously had success. 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.560 But then you can go the other way, right, Spurrier 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:35.400 didn't last long, didn't work out well. Saban they won 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:37.440 some games, but just not enough. They didn't have the 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.640 right quarterback down there in Miami when he was there. 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.520 The Alabama thing might not have ever happened if Drew 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.960 Brees shows up in Miami. So, you know, and it's 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.159 it's kind of a feeling right now. There was an 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.840 initial buzz nationally over the Urban Meyer hiring, but then 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:57.560 I don't I don't feel that national buzz about Urban 0:21:57.640 --> 0:21:59.400 right now. I mean, maybe it's there's so much other 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:01.600 stuff going on in the league right now, free agencies 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:03.760 coming up. But I think maybe once they get back 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.720 on the field again, maybe it'll hop back. And you know, 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:09.439