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Speaker 1: I am Jason Timp Happy Tuesday. Everybody. Hope all of

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Speaker 1: your weeks are off to a good start. Day four

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Speaker 1: of the NBA Playoffs in the books, lots of interesting

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Speaker 1: stuff once again, we had two series. Is get evened up.

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Speaker 1: We had, in my opinion, the most uninteresting and fraudulent

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Speaker 1: basketball team in this playoff. Y'ell. The Atlanta Hawks catch

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker's hamstring as the days go along with that's

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Speaker 1: And then I'm also gonna bring my guy Carson on

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Speaker 1: later in the show. We're going to play some games,

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Speaker 1: including going back and forth about whether or not Jason

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Speaker 1: this point. And then this is another important note for

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Speaker 1: they will get asked in the third segment of the

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Speaker 1: show tonight. But let's start with the Pelicans and the

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Speaker 1: Suns and so there there are some themes for this

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Speaker 1: show tonight that I want to get to. The core

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Speaker 1: means you're moving the ball around and you're making the

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Speaker 1: right decisions. It's not just on Jots on everybody, but

431
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Speaker 1: it starts with Jaw And then there during that run,

432
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Speaker 1: which again I think Minnesota kind of let go of

433
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Speaker 1: the rope a little bit there. But during that run,

434
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Speaker 1: when Minnesota like go with the rope, then John Moran

435
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: got loose and started having fun as a score. But

436
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: you have to loosen up the defense first, and the

437
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: only way to do that is to make the right

438
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Speaker 1: decisions as the quarterback of your offense. Then from there

439
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 1: they have to stop playing jan kee basketball and they

440
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: have to start guarding people, and that's when you have

441
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Speaker 1: your opportunities to score. You know, we're gonna talk about

442
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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum a little bit later and and uh, you know,

443
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Speaker 1: he's been double teamed a lot this year. Do you

444
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Speaker 1: guys ever noticed that, like Lebron doesn't get double team

445
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Speaker 1: very often? If you guys ever noticed that, like you

446
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: don't see the crazy traps out at half court with

447
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Speaker 1: Lebron or the you know, like he'll be isolating on

448
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Speaker 1: the left wing and you won't just have like a

449
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: dude just run over and hard double team, because Lebron

450
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: makes you pay for that every single time. If you

451
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Speaker 1: trap him to only from the basket and you make

452
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Speaker 1: it clear that you're doubling him, on the very next possession,

453
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: he'll have a counter. He'll probably give the ball up

454
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Speaker 1: to a point guard, work to some specific position on

455
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Speaker 1: the floor where if you double him it's a super

456
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Speaker 1: super easy read. He'll make that easy read and then

457
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Speaker 1: he'll run back. On defense. Lebron faces a bunch of

458
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Speaker 1: different types of defenses, but you never see him get

459
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Speaker 1: the crazy psychotic double teams that you see some of

460
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Speaker 1: these other stars get because he's just always one step

461
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Speaker 1: ahead of him. The easiest way to stop a Jankee

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Speaker 1: defense that is loading up on you, just like Minnesota

463
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: did packing the pain on John Morant, is to just

464
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Speaker 1: make the right reads and make them pay for doing

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Speaker 1: that to you. They were better just overall. I told

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Speaker 1: you guys that Minnesota played like an underdog in Game one,

467
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Speaker 1: and Memphis kind of looked like the team that had

468
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Speaker 1: all the confidence in the world from their fantastic regular season.

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Speaker 1: But they thought it would be easy, I think in

470
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Speaker 1: Game one, and they got slapped in the face and

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Speaker 1: as a result, they've got found themselves down one. Oh.

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Speaker 1: But they tightened up so many of those details in

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Speaker 1: this game. They gave up eleven offensive rebounds in Game one,

474
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Speaker 1: only four tonight, so they did a much much better

475
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: job boxing out. And those guys were still crashing the glass.

476
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: Trust me watch the tape. Minnesota was still crashing every

477
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: bit as they did in the first game. It was

478
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Speaker 1: just little attention to detail for Memphis to take those away.

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Speaker 1: The Wolves were only from three today. I think they

480
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Speaker 1: were eleven for thirty nine. The rotations on the back

481
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Speaker 1: end and guys flying around to contest shots. It was

482
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Speaker 1: a completely different level of effort defensively than they gave

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Speaker 1: in Game one, and that's why they won, and that's

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Speaker 1: why they tied this series at one. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: move on to the Wolves for just a quick second

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Speaker 1: before we get to our mail bag, and again, if

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Speaker 1: you guys have any questions about anything at all, dropped

488
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Speaker 1: them in the chat. That will be our next segment.

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Speaker 1: The Wolves, you know, in the same way that Memphis

490
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Speaker 1: showed that they should win the series, and they demonstrated

491
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Speaker 1: that tonight. They demonstrated tonight they are the better team

492
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Speaker 1: on a bunch of different levels. But I still think

493
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Speaker 1: Minnesota has an outside chance to win this series. And

494
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Speaker 1: a huge part of that is that when they kept

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Speaker 1: Memphis in the half court, they still had a lot

496
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Speaker 1: of success tonight. I told you, guys, I was worried

497
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Speaker 1: about Anthony Edwards cooling off as a jump shooter. That

498
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Speaker 1: didn't happen. He was four for eleven on jump shots tonight,

499
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Speaker 1: four for ten from three. That's a pretty good effective

500
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Speaker 1: field goal percentage twelve points on eleven shots. They absolutely

501
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Speaker 1: can win this series. They have the pieces, They have

502
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Speaker 1: home court advantage now. I think, ironically, one of the

503
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Speaker 1: strangest wrinkles of the series is Carl Anthony Towns. I

504
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Speaker 1: tweeted out earlier today that the only thing that they

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Speaker 1: needed to have a fighting chance in the series was

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Speaker 1: the ability to stop Memphis in the half court, which

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Speaker 1: they've shown in Karl Anthony Towns being just the mismatched

508
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Speaker 1: nightmare of the series, the guy that nobody can guard.

509
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Speaker 1: Even Jaren Jackson had some problems with him in some

510
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Speaker 1: situations tonight, and he's probably their best option there. But

511
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Speaker 1: Carl Anthony Town has got himself into foul trouble again,

512
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Speaker 1: and this is what happened in the playing game, and

513
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Speaker 1: like some of this is just absolute ridiculous lack of

514
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Speaker 1: awareness from Carl Town's that there. His second foul was

515
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Speaker 1: on like a rebound play where he just was just

516
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: shoving a guy in the back on a defensive rebound.

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Speaker 1: His third foul there like middle second quarter. Again, he's

518
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Speaker 1: got two fouls. He just went through a foul trouble

519
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: situation in the playing game. The team desperately needs him,

520
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: he's their biggest mismatch threat. And he shoots a wide

521
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Speaker 1: open three and a pick and pop at the top

522
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Speaker 1: of the key and literally kicks his leg out and

523
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Speaker 1: trips Xavier, telling me why he's running by him, like like,

524
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Speaker 1: what did you think was gonna happen? Like like, so

525
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Speaker 1: he kicked his leg out, So he consciously made a

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Speaker 1: decision too foul, knowing that he was in foul trouble.

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Speaker 1: And that's a weird wrinkle in this series because Carltown,

528
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Speaker 1: and this has been an issue with him throughout his

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Speaker 1: entire career. When he he's on, he's on, and there's

530
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Speaker 1: nothing anybody can do with him. But like he just

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Speaker 1: gets he just becomes a space kid at sometimes and

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the deal is. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis can be a little bit like that sometimes

534
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Speaker 1: as well. But that's a that's a huge issue for

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Speaker 1: Carl Towns and it's a huge issue for the Wolves

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Speaker 1: in this series. But over the course of the rest

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Speaker 1: of the series, if the Wolves can keep the game

538
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Speaker 1: in the half court as much as possible at least Memphis,

539
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Speaker 1: so they can keep Memphis in the half court. I

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Speaker 1: love when Minnesota runs out and gets their threes, especially

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Speaker 1: for guys like Malik Beasley. But if Carl Towns can't

542
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Speaker 1: figure out this foul trouble thing, that could be something

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Speaker 1: that that that shoots them in the foot and their

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Speaker 1: chances to win this series. Alright, we're gonna bring my

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Speaker 1: guy Carson on to ask some questions from the audience. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Jason, We've got lots of good ones today,

547
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Speaker 1: and the first one is related to something that you

548
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Speaker 1: have actually touched on a good bit and you did

549
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Speaker 1: a whole thing on it yesterday and some of Nicola

550
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Speaker 1: Yokis defensive limitations and sort of how that may be

551
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Speaker 1: inhibits him from being the best player in the world.

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Speaker 1: We have a question from James Michael Santiago, which is,

553
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Speaker 1: what can the Nuggets do when Yoki just drawn to

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Speaker 1: a high pick and roll with Stephen Draymond? Do you

555
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Speaker 1: just let Draymond attack on the short roll? How would

556
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Speaker 1: you handle that match up with Yoga? That is a

557
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Speaker 1: really interesting question. I was talking the gulp seems exactly.

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Speaker 1: I was talking with Matt Matt Moore from the Action

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Speaker 1: Network a little bit tonight about this specific conundrum because

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything you can do. There's no

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Speaker 1: good option. If you have him sit back and drop, uh,

562
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Speaker 1: steps just gonna come off of every screen and shoot.

563
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Speaker 1: And Georgian Pool is gonna come off of every screen

564
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Speaker 1: and shoot. If you have him come up to the

565
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Speaker 1: level of the screen, he just gets dusted every single

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Speaker 1: time off the dribble and guys, if you want to

567
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: see very specific examples of this, just go to my

568
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Speaker 1: Twitter feed and look at the little thread I did

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Speaker 1: from the death lineup tonight. You can see very specific

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Speaker 1: examples of each of these plays that I'm referencing. My

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle is at underscore Jason lt and you can

572
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Speaker 1: see all the video of the things that I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: When he's up at the level of the screen, Steph

574
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Speaker 1: is just gonna beat him off the dribble every time

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Speaker 1: and get a layup. And then most importantly, if you

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Speaker 1: get him to trap, which is your last option there.

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Speaker 1: If you get I guess there's one other. If you

578
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Speaker 1: get him to trap, steps just gonna hit Draymond Green

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Speaker 1: on the short roll. And that's literally Warriors basketball. Draymond

580
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Speaker 1: Green starting a four on three barreling down the lane.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna do fantastic in that situation. So your last

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Speaker 1: your last option is a switch. So basically you do

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Speaker 1: a trap. There's effectively a trap like Yoki does an

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Speaker 1: aggressive switch on the on the ball screen, and then

585
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Speaker 1: whoever's guarding the guard, whether it's Jordan Pull or Steph Curry,

586
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Speaker 1: whoever is guarding the guard immediately just grabs Raymond and

587
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: tries to take away the role. Right. But now you're

588
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Speaker 1: having Nickela Yokes guard out on the perimeter, and all

589
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Speaker 1: it takes is one dribble drive, one straight line drive

590
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Speaker 1: around Yokich and now you're in rotation, and now Nicola

591
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Speaker 1: Yokach needs to cover ground in rotation. And so I

592
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Speaker 1: asked Matt More from the Action Network, I said what

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Speaker 1: would you do? And his answer was kind of funny,

594
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Speaker 1: he says, He basically said, you you have Yokis punished

595
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Speaker 1: them on the other end of the floor, except for

596
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Speaker 1: except for he's struggling with Draymond Green right now, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and and we can get a little bit further

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Speaker 1: into Yokis some other time. But like, he can't shoot

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Speaker 1: threes anymore. He's nine percent from three over his last

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Speaker 1: twenty one games of the regular season. He's over eight

601
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Speaker 1: from three in this series. He's got gaping, gaping holes

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Speaker 1: in his game right now. And and I agree, like

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Speaker 1: the the ideas you it's kind of like I was

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Speaker 1: talking about last night. Styles make fights, right, But it's

605
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: not about the style that wins, it's which style plays

606
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Speaker 1: well enough to win. And so yeah, Yokich has a

607
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: style of of play where if he's dumb and in

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Speaker 1: enough at the things that he's good at, then it

609
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: balances out in your favor. But a lot of times

610
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Speaker 1: it hasn't, and teams are and as is always the case,

611
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Speaker 1: when a star comes up, it's kind of like with

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Speaker 1: you honest, two m v p s right dominant regular

613
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: seasons and in Miami completely neutered him in that playoff series.

614
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: A lot of times after a team's teams and around

615
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: the NBA get tons and tons of opportunity to watch

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Speaker 1: tape and to see all the ways that Yoki can

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Speaker 1: beat you. They come up with counters and they find

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00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: ways to make things tough for you, and you're seeing

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Speaker 1: that happen with Yokas right now. But to make a

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00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: long story short, guys, there's no good solution with Yokis

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Speaker 1: defensively against a good fast, dribble, dribble, drive and kick team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. And I think even exacerbating that further

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Speaker 1: is the Nuggets don't have good enough point of attack defenders.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's like, it's enough to have to have

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Speaker 1: plotting Yoki in the pick and roll start dudes who

626
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: are elite pull up jump shooters and also super creative

627
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Speaker 1: and quick getting downhill. It's another thing when you're trying

628
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Speaker 1: to have Monte Morris and Bones Highland, you know, apply

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Speaker 1: ball pressure and all that. It's just there's nothing working there.

630
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Speaker 1: And Steph Draymond pick and roll in any matchup against

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Speaker 1: any NBA team of the last half decade, I think

632
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: is some of the toughest offense to guard, period. So

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, I mean I would shrug. I

634
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Speaker 1: don't think there is an answer, and even if Yokich does,

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Speaker 1: you know, really punish them. On the other end, I

636
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Speaker 1: think we've seen the talent deficit here is just too

637
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Speaker 1: much to overcome. Like there's no way I don't think

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Speaker 1: for the Nuggets to really make this a series at

639
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: this point. That's the tough part because the the under

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Speaker 1: the like the underling to all of this stuff that

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Speaker 1: I've been saying about Yoki, which is all true. Everything

642
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Speaker 1: I'm saying about Yoki is even even a separate from

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Speaker 1: the roster issues. These are legit flaws. No matter what

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00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: you put around Yokich, he's still gonna be slow, he's

645
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: still gonna struggle to cover ground on the perimeter, and

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00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: he's still gonna have, you know, the inability to shoot

647
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: and struggle with length on on the offensive end. Right,

648
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Speaker 1: But he does have a huge talent disadvantage here. So

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Speaker 1: I was at another little thing I was talking about

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Speaker 1: with Matt More. I said to him. I said, I

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Speaker 1: would love to see like Yokich on a two thousand

652
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: eleven Mavericks type of roster, you know, like a roster

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Speaker 1: that covers so much ground defensively and almost puts him

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Speaker 1: in a in a situation where he's where where his

655
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Speaker 1: shortcomings are harder to exploit because the guys around him

656
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Speaker 1: kind of fill those gaps. I absolutely think he could

657
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Speaker 1: win a championship in that type of role, just like

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Speaker 1: Dirk did. Yeah, I totally agree, And I mean we

659
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: saw stretches this year where Yoga was really exerting effort defensively,

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Speaker 1: and I think it, you know, regressed to bid as

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00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: he probably just got fatigued from carrying the ridiculous offensive

662
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Speaker 1: load every night. But I think you can put a

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Speaker 1: top ten defense around Yogis and then you can have

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Speaker 1: the best offense in league, and the Nuggets with their

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Speaker 1: full personnel, I mean, wouldn't have been far off from

666
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Speaker 1: that pace this year at all. I don't think, so

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, it's gonna be interesting

668
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Speaker 1: to see if they do prioritize trying to add quality

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Speaker 1: three and D wings where they can cap as an issue,

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Speaker 1: but maybe through the draft and whatnot, M L E

671
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Okay, so we mentioned the nightmare

672
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Speaker 1: of guarding the Warriors and just how impressive they have

673
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: been through two against the Nuggets. We have a question

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Speaker 1: from Kyle's takes, which is, if the Warriors play the

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Speaker 1: way they do on a more consistent basis, are they

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Speaker 1: the favorites out of the West or are they your

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00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: favorites to win it all? Even Jason, what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Definitely not the favorites to win it all. They would

679
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Speaker 1: become my favorites to win the West if Devin Booker

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00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: could not play in a series against them. Um, but

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, I watched the tape

682
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Speaker 1: on that death lineup run there in the second quarter,

683
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: and don't get me wrong, like it was there there.

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Speaker 1: They're on offense in particular, they were magnificent. Okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: but Denver got a lot of wide open looks on

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Speaker 1: the other end that they missed. It kind of felt

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Speaker 1: like it almost felt like when that lineup checked in,

688
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: like the crowd knew it, the Warriors knew it, and

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00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: Denver knew it. Like Okay, here we go, like everyone's

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00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about here's the new Death lineup, and

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Speaker 1: it was almost like that got in their heads and

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Speaker 1: and particularly on like on their first two possessions, like

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Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon and Will bar And both forced, even though

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Speaker 1: they were easy pocket passes to Yokis, they both forced

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Speaker 1: like crazy wild floaters. There was a play where like

696
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Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon for whatever reason just decid like Yoka to

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Speaker 1: the ball top of the key, going against someone other

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Speaker 1: than Draymond. Draymond was sitting right under the basket, like

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Speaker 1: at the charge circle, and Aaron Gordon was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do a quick duck in on Draymond Okay, on

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green, the best defensive player in the entire world.

702
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Speaker 1: He was like, I'm gonna do a duck in on

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green, and Draymond Green just took a charge and

704
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Speaker 1: he fell over and we were going the other way.

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Speaker 1: And then on a couple of the possessions in the run,

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Speaker 1: they got wide open looks. I'm not trying to undercut

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Speaker 1: what that lineup can do, but what I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: they still have some issues, and they have big flaws

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Speaker 1: on the interior that some teams are going to be

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Speaker 1: able to exploit, and they still don't have that big, rim,

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Speaker 1: pressuring wing, the guy that can kind of put his

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Speaker 1: back to the basket when things really bogged down, kind

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00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: of like a boy on Bogdanovitch like we talked about

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Speaker 1: last night, that can kind of create shots for himself.

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Speaker 1: I'm very high on the Warriors. I absolutely think they're

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Speaker 1: capable of beating even the Suns at full strength. I

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Speaker 1: just still wouldn't pick them over the Suns while they're

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Speaker 1: hell THEE, and I certainly wouldn't pick them over a

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Speaker 1: team like Boston coming out of the East, for instance,

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Speaker 1: or even Milwaukee. Yeah. I think you're right, and that

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Speaker 1: it would be premature to say, you know, based off

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Speaker 1: the really impressive a couple of games, that they are

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Speaker 1: the title favorites. To me, I think that, honestly, their

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Speaker 1: ability to really contend for that claim is what level

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Speaker 1: we continue to get out of Jordan Pool, because that

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Speaker 1: was kind of always my biggest question about the Warriors,

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00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: is as great as they were defensively with Draymond healthy,

728
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: and as much as steps just sheer gravity offensively and

729
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: ability could make things flow, and they're unselfishes and Draymond facilitating.

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Speaker 1: Great teams need that second, real like star level creator right,

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Speaker 1: and Pool was not that until the All Star break

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Speaker 1: and then since then he's been twenty three and a

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Speaker 1: half a game on sixty centry shooting and in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs has been unbelievable. So I think that I really

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Speaker 1: like their depth. I think their thirty woven when Draymond

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Speaker 1: and Steph both play this year. So to me, it's

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Speaker 1: about Pool. I mean, do you think, like, like, is

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Speaker 1: he the key if this team is going to try

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Speaker 1: to go out and actually win the title? Absolutely? And

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Speaker 1: I thought Draymond and if you guys haven't seen this,

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00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: that you gotta check it out. Draymond Green talked Broke

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00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: Down the Nuggets series. You can find it on YouTube

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Speaker 1: and on the Draymond Green podcast feed um, and he

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Speaker 1: talked about Jordan Pool's floor game. But one of the

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Speaker 1: specific things that he talked about, that's something that I've

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Speaker 1: been preaching about a lot on this show, and I

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00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: did a whole video about for Warriors fans about a

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00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: month month and a half ago, when Jordan Pool was

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Speaker 1: kind of starting to get this run going. I talked

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Speaker 1: about how Jordan's Pool is starting to dictate similar coverages

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Speaker 1: that Steph had and Draymond Green went and said exactly

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00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: that on his show today, which I which I I

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Speaker 1: appreciated because it's something that I've noticed. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: when Steph compromises a defense to such a dramatic extent

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Speaker 1: and Jordan Pool's ability to do the same thing, it

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Speaker 1: just gets it makes the team literally unguardable, and so

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00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: many different ways. There was a play in the there

758
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: was a play in that run that the death lineup

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00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: run in the second quarter where Andrew Wiggins was on

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Speaker 1: the left wing. And Andrew Wiggins remember shooting thirty from

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Speaker 1: three over the course of this regular season, and Steph

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00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: and Clay are steps kind of on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the wing, are a little bit a little bit

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Speaker 1: away from Wiggins and and Clay's in the corner and

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Speaker 1: Draymond Green has the ball at the top of the

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Speaker 1: key and Jordan Poole just does like a V cut

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Speaker 1: out to the perimeter. I think Aaron Gordon was the

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Speaker 1: one guarding him. Draymond throws the ball to Jordan Pool,

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Gordon has to panic clothes out to Jordan

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Speaker 1: Pool because that's the same thing you have to do

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Speaker 1: with Steph. And as a result, Jordan Pool just does

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Speaker 1: a basic rip through to the baseline, and nobody's home.

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Speaker 1: Literally nobody's home, because who are you helping off of?

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Speaker 1: You leaving Steph? Are you leaving Clay? Are you leaving

775
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Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins. It's like having another guy that compromised the

776
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Speaker 1: defense to that extent it captures at least offensively, you're

777
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Speaker 1: never gonna get the and not not and Kevin durant

778
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: Is is so incredible when the game bogs down as

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Speaker 1: like an isolation score that this is probably blasphemous to say,

780
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Speaker 1: but at least in the open court, open flow like

781
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Speaker 1: Steph brand of basketball, Jordan Pool brings some similar scoring

782
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Speaker 1: punch that allows them to hit some offensive heights that

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Speaker 1: are very similar to that that I'm a hundred percent

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Speaker 1: with you that Jordan Pool does dictate the ceiling in

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Speaker 1: a bunch of different ways. But even with to me,

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Speaker 1: the Jordan Pool thing is more exciting for the Warriors

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Speaker 1: in the long term because so much about this team

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Speaker 1: in their fan base has been about the two eras, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: you've got the existing era of Steph, Clay and Draymond,

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Speaker 1: but then you've got Jonathan Cominga and James Wiseman is

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Speaker 1: like the future, and you kind of get caught straddling

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00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: that line, and in my opinion, you lose both eras

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Speaker 1: when you do it that way. I've hated that approach

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00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: from general management groups all the time. But Jordan Pool

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Speaker 1: becoming like a legitimate All Star level player over the

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Speaker 1: course of those last couple of months, that bridges that gap.

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Speaker 1: That is an influx of outlet that allows you to

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Speaker 1: accomplish what you would have accomplished, like, you know, like

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Speaker 1: it had they traded Jonathan Comingo for C. J. McCollum

800
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: or something like that, you would have had a similar vibe, right,

801
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: So you get Now you've accomplished what you would have

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00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: accomplished by trading away your young guys first star, and

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00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: you still have the young guys. So it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: It's obviously a huge ceiling razer for the long run,

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00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: but within the confines of this specific postseason, I still

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Speaker 1: think they're too thin on the wing and under the

807
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: basket to be the favorite. That doesn't mean they can't win,

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00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: It just means I don't have him as the favorite.

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Speaker 1: All Right, We've got another question, this one from Connor Phillips.

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Speaker 1: The Hawks fell down to nothing today, you know, they

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Speaker 1: were able to make a bit of a push, but

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Speaker 1: pretty consistently seemed to be outclassed by the Heat. So, Jason,

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Speaker 1: are there any adjustments the Hawks could make to have

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Speaker 1: a better shot in that series in your opinion? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they would need to find a time machine and

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00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: they would need to go back to October, and then

817
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: he would they would need to practice playing defense four

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00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 1: six months and then they might have a better chance.

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Speaker 1: They and in the first quarter they did a better

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Speaker 1: job flying around on the wing, and then Trey Young

821
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: played better, which we knew he would. That was just

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Speaker 1: an utterly disastrous Game one, and you could argue fatigue

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00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: played a role in that as well, after having to

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00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: work their way through the through the playing tournament. But

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Speaker 1: in general, I tend to think that like they are

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Speaker 1: the odds, they are the sore thumb in this entire

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Speaker 1: postseason run. All eight teams out West are legit. You know,

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Speaker 1: even the Jazz who are fraudulent are not to the

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Speaker 1: same extent as as as the Atlanta Hawks are. It's

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Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. With uh, the Lanta Hawks are

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Speaker 1: like the sword there, the sore thumb in this playoff run.

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Speaker 1: They have no business. They are utterly they they are

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Speaker 1: outclassed by all other fifty, every one of the other

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Speaker 1: fifteen teams. I I I can't wait for that series

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Speaker 1: to be over, just because it's like watching it. I

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Speaker 1: just feel like it feels like watching regular season basketball

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Speaker 1: on a bunch of different levels. I do. Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: looks fantastic, though, I will say that, and it's amaze

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Speaker 1: seeing how well he thrives in this playoff environment. I

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Speaker 1: I tend to think that he's a little bit more

841
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: hot and cold than people realize. Like he tends to

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00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: average twenty Like he's his averages are always like twenty

843
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: one twenty two points, right, but it's like it usually

844
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: comes in the form of like forty and then ten

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00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: and then and then ten. Like that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler experience. Like if you catch Jimmy Butler on

847
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: the right night, he looks like you could be one

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Speaker 1: of the best players in the league. Well, Jason, that

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Speaker 1: is just beautifully tied in with another question that we have,

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Speaker 1: this one from PG in the chat, and it is

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Speaker 1: can Jimmy Butler and the Heat get revenge versus the

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00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: Sixers next round? Oh Man that's a good question that

853
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: um I will certainly be rooting for them. Per my

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00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: rant last night about how I want the Sixers to

855
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: lose for so many different reasons, they present a bunch

856
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: of different They present a much a bunch of better

857
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: defensive options. The things that I've been talking about with

858
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: the that I want Toronto to guard the Sixers, I

859
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: think Miami will better be able to pull off. Also,

860
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: bam At a bio gives you at least a half

861
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: decent body to throw joe El embiad in single coverage,

862
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: which Toronto has not had at all. I do think

863
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: that this is the issue though, as we talked about

864
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: with Toronto, they needed to get out in transition because

865
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: Philly is a bad transition defense. But in the half

866
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: court they're a great defense because if you can get

867
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: if you can get their defense set Joel Embiat, it

868
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: causes so many problems underneath the basket, and they have

869
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: enough size on the wing to end mobility on the

870
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: wing to cause teams problems. The issue is My issue

871
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: with Miami all season has been their half court offense,

872
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: specifically when they go with their guys that they have

873
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: to play in the postseason, like yeah, they can play,

874
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, like they can play Max s Truce and

875
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: Tyler Harrow and Duncan Robinson all at the same time

876
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: and have a ton of shooting. And then yeah, like

877
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: guys like Jimmy Butler are gonna feast and it's gonna

878
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: look great, but they can't guard well enough with that lineup,

879
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Like they're gonna havel to go down with Bam and

880
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler and and p J. Tucker. And with that lineup,

881
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: they suddenly have two guys that you can flat out

882
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: ignore in a third that you probably can't ignore as well,

883
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: and that's Jimmy Butler, so at least as a perimeter

884
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: jump shooter. So what ends up happening there is now

885
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: you've got You've got Joel Embiide camping under the basket

886
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: the entire time and the half court because it was

887
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: just like Anthony Davis did to Bam out of Bio.

888
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: So unfortunately, as much as I would love to see

889
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: Philly lose the second round series, uh and the first

890
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: round series isn't over, but it looks like it certainly

891
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: could be. But as much as I'd like to see it,

892
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: they just got they caught two really good draws. They

893
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: got a Toronto team that combusted and got hurt, and

894
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: Nick Nurse might have had a game plan that I

895
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: just disagreed with. And then they're gonna catch a Miami

896
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: team in the second round that can't score in the

897
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: half court, so that might be enough to send the

898
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: Sixers to the conference finals, were hopefully mercifully they will lose. Yeah,

899
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: I think I'm aligned with you there. I totally agree

900
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: on what's been the issue at the Heat for so

901
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: much of the year. And it's like there's a lot

902
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: of days, a lot of days where Tyler here is

903
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: their best offensive player, and that's a lot to ask

904
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: to then go out and like contend for a title

905
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: with that, you know, as improved and nasty as he is,

906
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, the efficiency isn't consistent enough. The ability to

907
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: really dictate the flow of an offense isn't totally there

908
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: with him. So I think I'm with you. There's just

909
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: more easy offense with the Sixers. One interesting thing, though,

910
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned bam as an option with and Bead.

911
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if there are many teams

912
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: better equipped to handle Harden, and we have seen the

913
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: Heat just swarm tray Young out of the pick and roll.

914
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: We have seen how incredible Bam is switching there obviously

915
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: many times over, but that to me feels like with

916
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: the multiple guys that could throw at him on the perimeter,

917
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: with obviously Bam switch ability, that could really be a

918
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: nightmare for Hard and he's gonna have to work for

919
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: buckets and as we've seen, I mean, you know, he's

920
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: eighteen a game on thirty five percent shooting over his

921
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: last ten, so that could definitely, I think, be a

922
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a drop offs lot for him. Yeah,

923
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is gonna be the game plan because

924
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: one of the big reasons why, Like I was listening

925
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: to Zach Low earlier today and he was talking about

926
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: how the Raptors need to jank things up even more

927
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: and get even crazier with the way that they guard hardened,

928
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: the heart, heartened and beat stuff, and I could not

929
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: disagree more. Like, I just think, like, who have been

930
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: the unsung heroes of the series for Philly. It's been

931
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris and Tyres Maxie. Maxie more flashy so, but

932
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Tobias Harris is having a really solid series as a

933
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: as a catch and shoot guy and as a guy

934
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: who's attacking mismatches in the post, he's doing a lot

935
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: of like quick ducans, you know, like when he catches

936
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: in transition, if he catches a small guy on him,

937
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: like they'll just kind of send and beat out to

938
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: the perimeter and Tobias will just duck in for a

939
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: quick layup and stuff. And like, those two guys are

940
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: really good players. Is Tobias overpaid, yes, but he's a

941
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: really good player. Entires Maxie is a really good player.

942
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: And so if you want to play, if you want

943
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: to let them play four on three on the back

944
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: end all day long, they're probably gonna beat you. And

945
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: so I agree with you that the Heat are equipped

946
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: way better than Toronto is to cause James Harden problems.

947
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: The question is are they gonna are they going to

948
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: are they gonna send multiple bodies at James Harden and

949
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: all these actions or are they going to play real

950
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: basketball in those environments and then throw the kitchen sink

951
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: and emb like stupid stuff Like I talked I talked

952
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: in the last night's show about that Tyrese MAXI uh

953
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: pick and pop with with Harden. They're running a pick

954
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: and pop with two guards okay, and the screener in

955
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: this case, Maxi is the better of the two players

956
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: in this series. You know, you James Harden, That's a

957
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: whole other converence if you want to. Obviously, his playmaking

958
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: probably makes him a better player than Naxie, But in

959
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: terms of like scoring the basketball, Maxi is a better

960
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: player right now because Harden doesn't have that burst and

961
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: like you're seeing the Raptors like like panic about leaving

962
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: Harden in a switch and get and giving uh Maxie

963
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: straight line drives to the basket. It's just badged strategy.

964
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: So I agree with you, But like I I want

965
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 1: to see at least one team in this postseason run

966
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: dare James Harden to do all the scoring. I just

967
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: want to see it. I just want to see what

968
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: it looks like. I mean, I think that you are

969
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: totally justified in that, like you said, I mean, Maxie,

970
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: I think you're shooting six in this series, Harris is shooting.

971
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: Those guys are among the best third and fourth options

972
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: in the league. And hardeness well actually scoring as like

973
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: the fourth option. He's fourth among six doing still efficiently.

974
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: So I think that'd be very interesting. All right, We're

975
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: gonna switch gears here with a question from Mason are

976
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: that I really really hope does not come from personal experience. Jason,

977
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: what is the moral responsibility of a person to quote,

978
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: save a stranger from a seemingly harmful cult? What are

979
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: your thoughts, Oh my gosh, to save a stranger from

980
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's a really really weird question. Um,

981
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, like what kind of cult are we

982
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: talking about here? Is it like a religion thing or

983
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: is it like like various behavior thing. Okay, religion is

984
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: weird for me because I you could argue that every

985
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: religion is a could to some level, you know, so like,

986
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: and we don't want to get too much further into

987
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: that detail. So I think if it was a religious thing,

988
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: I'd probably just have private conversations with my wife about

989
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: how crazy the person was. But if it was like

990
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: if it was like, you know, like like if my

991
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: buddy came to me tomorrow and decided that he was

992
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: going to become a vegan, not as a health choice,

993
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: but be because he decided that like animals shouldn't be

994
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: eaten or something like that, I'd probably have a conversation

995
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: with him. M Is that coldish behavior, veganism. Dude, I'm

996
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: trying to come up with a graded way too. I'm

997
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: trying to come up with a g readed way to

998
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: talk about something like I mean, like, do you want

999
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: me to come out and say he's joining a weird

1000
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: sex could the carson? Do you want me to say that?

1001
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: Because if you want me to, I will. First of all,

1002
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: not my question, Mason's question, but here's the key descriptor.

1003
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: I think seemingly harmful. But also, Mason says, a stranger,

1004
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not even really sure how I would have

1005
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: an intimate enough experience with a stranger to say, hey, buddy,

1006
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: I don't really like your life choices. You know. So

1007
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: that's a good point. The stranger throws it off, Yeah,

1008
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: it does. So I'm thinking there's not that much of

1009
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: a moral responsibility. I mean, if I see somebody walking

1010
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: into like a go sacrifice ceremony of some kind, I'm

1011
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: probably just gonna assume that they're vibe and go on

1012
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: my mary way my day. Yeah. Okay, we've got another

1013
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: weird one here, not basketball related, but we had multiple

1014
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: people talking about the Kardashian curse in the chat. Obviously,

1015
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: with what happened to book with the hamstrings. So do

1016
00:51:54,560 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: you believe in curses? I don't believe in curses. I

1017
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: do believe in things like karma, so like I do

1018
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: believe in like the basketball gods, or like just the

1019
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: general philosophy of like what goes around comes around. But

1020
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: I do not believe in curses. I'm not a very

1021
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: superstitious guy. I'm not. Like even when I was playing

1022
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: in college, Like I was never superstitious about specific things

1023
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: that I would do, but I was always a very

1024
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: I was a man of my routine, though, and I

1025
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: have always felt weird about that routine. Like like, for instance,

1026
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: even with these late night shows. I've been doing late

1027
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: night shows now for probably've probably done over a hundred

1028
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: of them over the last year and a half or so.

1029
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: And like when I take a late afternoon nap, I

1030
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 1: just find that I'm more awake for those kinds of things,

1031
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: and so like if I don't get my late afternoon

1032
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: new nap, like today I did not get my late

1033
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: afternoon nap, and like I was paranoid all night. I'm like,

1034
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: am I gonna be exhausted when I'm what I'm doing

1035
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: the show, So like I'm a man of my routine,

1036
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: and I do believe in karma, but I am not

1037
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: a superstitious guy by any stretch of the imagination. I'm

1038
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: with you all the way there, but I will a

1039
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: I respect somebody who tries to curse another person. You know,

1040
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: you see people every once in a while in the

1041
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: stands of a game and they're doing some sort of

1042
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: weird voodoo motion, and I can appreciate that. All right, Well,

1043
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: speaking of the basketball gods, Jason, we have had a

1044
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: bit of a basketball god on the court in the

1045
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: making in Jason Tatum. So let me ask you, do

1046
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: you think he's a top five player on the planet

1047
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: right now? I do not. Now this is this is

1048
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: kind of falls in line perfectly with the conversation that

1049
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: we had yesterday surrounding Yokich and I talked a lot

1050
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: about how I hate the rush that people are in

1051
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: to crown these people when they're having a good stretch

1052
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: of basketball, and like, like, let's talk about Jason Tatum

1053
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: for a second. Do you think that last year after

1054
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: the Celtics went out with a whimper in the first round,

1055
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: again it's the Nets, do you guys think that Jayson

1056
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: Tatum was a top five player at that point, because

1057
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't and like the guys were trying to put

1058
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: him over have had a ton of success in the

1059
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: league for a long time, right, Like the reason why

1060
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about this tonight was because it's

1061
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: been kind of a hot topic around the league. Tonight.

1062
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: Zach Lowe said that there were only four players that

1063
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: were definitively above him. You had Tim Bontemps say that

1064
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: he was the third best player in the league. I

1065
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: I saw, Um, you know, it's been it's been a bit.

1066
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons was talking about how he's a top tier

1067
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: superstar on his show as well, and there's some Homerism

1068
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: going on. There is a couple of Boston guys in

1069
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: that group. But it's like, my thing is like he's

1070
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: been playing really well since January, like unbelievably well since January.

1071
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, strictly, when I'm looking in that window of time,

1072
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm seeing one of the best perimeter defenders in all

1073
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: of basketball, who's also very good off the ball as

1074
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: a defensive player, who also can grab contested re sounds

1075
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: when his team needs him to within their scheme. And

1076
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: then on the other end, of the floor. We have

1077
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: a dynamic three level score. He's improved massively with his

1078
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: handle and his ability to get into the paint, so

1079
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: we have an incredible three level score. Who in the

1080
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: last couple of months has done a great job accepting

1081
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: the double team and allowing in passing out of it

1082
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: and helping make plays for his teammates. So on the surface,

1083
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: that all looks amazing, But it's been a couple of months. Guys, Like, what, like,

1084
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: how ridiculous is it to literally put Jayson Tatum over

1085
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Lebron James who won a Finals m v P literally

1086
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: like less than a year and a half ago or

1087
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: a And I think it's right around a year and

1088
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: a half ago. Now, like a finals MVP a year

1089
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: and a half ago, and we're gonna say that Jayson

1090
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: Tatum is better than him now, Like, I just don't

1091
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: understand that. Like, do I think Jayson Tatum is going

1092
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: to continue to play this well and have a bunch

1093
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: of dominant playoff runs and be in the m VP

1094
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: conversation year and a year out. Yes, But I'm there's

1095
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: no race. There is no race to try to there

1096
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: there's I don't understand why people want to be the

1097
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: first guy to try to say that kind of stuff, like,

1098
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: let's let's be honest, guys. Even with how disastrous that

1099
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: Laker team was this year, remember what you saw from

1100
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: Lebron James when he was on the court as a

1101
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: scorer and as a playmaker and the things obviously didn't

1102
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: try on defense a lot this season. For we don't

1103
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: even have to get into it. But if tomorrow, if tomorrow,

1104
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: in Game two of that Brooklyn series, if it was

1105
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: Lebron James in place of Kevin Durant with that same

1106
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: NETS team, would you be sitting there more or less scared?

1107
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: I would argue you'd be the same amount of scared,

1108
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: if not a little bit more, because of Lebron's passing

1109
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: ability and how dangerous he can be in a one

1110
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: game playoff setting, like depending on how you've a stacked

1111
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: him up with k D. So, Like the truth of

1112
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: the matter is is like as great as Tatum is,

1113
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: this league is freaking stacked. Man at the top of

1114
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: the league, got Janice, Katie and Lebron in my opinion,

1115
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: who are still at like the three of the best

1116
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: big wings that we've ever seen in NBA history. You've

1117
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: got Kawhi Leonard coming back next year. You've got two

1118
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: centers that are unbelievable. Now, the that's where it gets interesting,

1119
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: Like you do you think I would take Tatum over

1120
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: a guy like embad or Yokis. Yeah, that's a good question.

1121
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: I have to think more about that. I don't have

1122
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: to take on it right this second. But those are guys,

1123
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: like unproven guys that don't have a track record of

1124
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: postseason success at the highest level year after year after

1125
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: year after year. Yeah, we can have that conversation, but

1126
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: come on, guys, for the for the like, with enough

1127
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: of the disrespect of the guys that have proven it

1128
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: time and time again. I love Jayson Tatum. I love

1129
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: watching him play. I'm super proud of all the success

1130
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: that he's had over the course of the last couple

1131
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: of years for a Celtics team that's kind of seemed

1132
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: like they've been stuck in the mud a little bit.

1133
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna sit here and be like, up

1134
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: top five better than Lebron like that. That's that's jumping

1135
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: the gun and like, and you're seeing a little bit

1136
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: of it in this series. Like the Celtics only got

1137
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: nineteen points in the fourth order of Game one, and

1138
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: a huge problem there was Jayson Tatum. The Nets were

1139
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: successful at getting the ball out of Jason's Tatum, Jayson

1140
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: Tatum's hands and not giving up baskets on the back

1141
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: end and a bit it almost reminded me of James Harden.

1142
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember in the Bubble when the Lakers

1143
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: would double team James Harden and they would pre rotate

1144
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: out of it and James hardenman kind of drift out

1145
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: the half court. Tatum has been doing some of that.

1146
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: He had a really important cut on the final possession

1147
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: of the game when he got that layup for the win.

1148
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: But if you watched the tape from that fourth quarter

1149
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: against the Nets, Jayson Tatum only took four shots. He

1150
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: was one for four, He had zero assists with a turnover.

1151
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: He struggled in that quarter. The Nets successfully took him

1152
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: out of the game in a lot of ways. Now,

1153
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't completely useless, to be clear, there was that

1154
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: play that I talked about, the play before the game winner,

1155
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: where the Nets, being so terrified of Jayson Tatum, allowed

1156
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: email Udoka to use Tatum as a decoy on the

1157
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: left wing with a little off ball screen between him

1158
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: and Al Horford that took Nick Claxton and Kevin Durant

1159
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: all the way out of the paint so that Jalen

1160
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: Brown had an open paint to go. Tatum is still

1161
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: a very effective basketball player even when he's getting double

1162
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: teams like that. But like I talked about earlier, you

1163
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: don't see that with Lebron. You're never gonna see Lebron

1164
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: get completely taken out of a game offensively in a

1165
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: fourth quarter like that, because of his ability to take

1166
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: those double teams in specific spots on the floor where

1167
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: they're very, very difficult to navigate out of, and because

1168
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: of his and because he doesn't drift out of the play.

1169
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's been killing Tatum in these fourth

1170
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: quarters as of late towards the end of the regular season.

1171
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: And here is like he'll draw the double and then

1172
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: he'll kind of drift out to forty feet and he's

1173
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: not a threat there. You've got to stay a threat.

1174
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: Don't be James Harden once you get the double team,

1175
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: as soon as you make that past cut, because that's

1176
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: what makes it so that on the back end, they're

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00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: playing four on five and not four on four. If

1178
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: you let them play four and four on the back end.

1179
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: Then your double team accomplished absolutely nothing. So that's just

1180
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 1: one little example. I' there if I'm just breaking down

1181
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: his skill set. It's not like I'm gonna sit there

1182
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, he's not as good at this

1183
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: as this guy at this or this or this. He's

1184
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: got all the tools. I'm just saying, for the sake

1185
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: of the rankings, let's wait until he has a little

1186
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: bit more success. He's got a very very talented team

1187
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: this year. If he's a top five player and he's

1188
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: got this team, he should win the championship this year.

1189
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: Because that that's the other thing. It's like, it's like

1190
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: I tell the Lebron fans all the time that are like, oh,

1191
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: Lebron is the best player in the league. Okay, that's great.

1192
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Can I hold him to the best player in the

1193
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: league standard? Because if he's on the best player in

1194
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: the league standard, now I gotta call him out for

1195
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: not running back on defense, now I gotta Now I

1196
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: gotta call him out for taking a game off here

1197
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: and there where his efforts not there. Now I've got

1198
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: to I've got to hold him to that standard. That's

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: the thing. That goes with Jason tam If you guys

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01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: want to say he's a top five player, then we

1201
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta say that a top five player went

1202
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: one for four in the fourth quarter while his offense

1203
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: completely fell apart, only managed nineteen points and barely scraped

1204
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: away a win against a team that they controlled for

1205
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: most of the night. So it's a complicated. That's why

1206
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to put on that list just yet.

1207
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: You've got to earn the right to be there over

1208
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: consistent success in multiple playoff runs. We're gonna bring Carson

1209
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: back on. He's gonna give his his take on this. Yeah,

1210
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I totally agree with you on a lot

1211
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: of fronts. I think that the premature crowning point is

1212
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: an excellent one. People just are, generally, I think, very

1213
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: overreactionary in sports. And I think that you're right about

1214
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: just the immense talent in the league right now. And

1215
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: there are unquestionably dudes who are just more complete offensive

1216
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: engines when you combine scoring and playmaking. And Tatum obviously

1217
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: has improved as a playmaker, but like still certainly not

1218
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: truly elite in that capacity. But if I were to

1219
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate, I would probably have to disregard the

1220
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: sort of cumulative resume point and just look at post

1221
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: All Star Break Jayson Tatum and say, is that guy

1222
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: a top five player alive? And you know, I mean

1223
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: he is right of what is right up there for

1224
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: the most valuable archetype in basketball. I think if you're

1225
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: talking about league leads, scoring, wing, versatile three level guy,

1226
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: solid to good playmaker, really high level defensive player. I

1227
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 1: mean we've heard the numbers before, but post All Star Break,

1228
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: he's over thirty a game on sixty through shooting. It's

1229
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: peak Katie Kauai raw production on better efficiency than like

1230
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: a Kauai has ever reached, and like we said, really

1231
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: really good defense. So I think it's a tough argument

1232
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: to make just because the town in the league is

1233
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: so insane right now, and there are you know, ten

1234
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: guys who I'm sure everybody would like to have in

1235
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: their top five. But if he were to sustain this level,

1236
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's a really really special basketball

1237
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: player with like all time potential. And I do think

1238
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 1: it's like you said, Tatum has always had the skill set.

1239
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: It's just been about making the game easier, you know,

1240
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: finding ways to create more of those high probability opportunities

1241
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: instead of just relying on the difficult shot making. And

1242
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: he's done it. He gets downhill more, he gets the

1243
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: line more, he is handling doubles better, He's just shooting

1244
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: the ball really, really well. So I think you're right,

1245
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I had to play a little

1246
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: bit of Devil's Advocate there, and I do think obviously

1247
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: we can both agree Tatum is special, special basketball player.

1248
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm with you. If he sustains it, then you you're

1249
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: you're right than he than he is that guy. He's

1250
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: already a better playmaker than Kauai ever has been. So like,

1251
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you, if he sustains it. My thing is,

1252
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: like again, first round exit last year, some of that

1253
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: was talent, not I'm not trying to say he should

1254
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: have won that series or anything, but first round exit

1255
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: last year, one playoff game this year. Okay, in that

1256
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: playoff game, he took it to Kadi and he was

1257
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: a better player than Katie in that game. But counterpoint,

1258
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: what do you think Kevin Durand's been thinking about the

1259
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: last couple of days, how he needs to bounce back

1260
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: in Game two? Kevin Durant's coming back with a big

1261
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: punch in Game two. And here's the thing. If Tatum

1262
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: stands up to that punch too, and he closes out

1263
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: the nets, and then he goes into the next round

1264
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: and he beats you honest in the bucks, and then

1265
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: he goes into the next round and he beats whoever

1266
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: wins out of that the other side of the Brackett Like, now,

1267
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: now we're talking about a guy that absolutely is in

1268
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: that conversation. But like again, it's just, it's just and

1269
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: this is just my approach to it. Like there are

1270
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people that look at it and more

1271
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: of like a you know, in the moment type of perspective.

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Speaker 1: My thing is, like I talked about this a lot

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Speaker 1: the other day when I was talking about like me

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Speaker 1: as a basketball player, like I would never put my

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Speaker 1: shoes and myself in the shoes of an NBA player.

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Speaker 1: I hate it when people even do that under the

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Speaker 1: videos I post, because I think that's disrespectful. I have

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Speaker 1: too much respect for the guys that have worked so

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Speaker 1: hard to either get their name called in the draft

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Speaker 1: or have a phone call come in from a from

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Speaker 1: a general manager offering them a contract to play professional

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Speaker 1: basketball in the n b A. I would never ever

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Speaker 1: ever try to put myself on that level. And I

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Speaker 1: kind of have that same approach with the stars that

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Speaker 1: are that are at the top of the league. Like

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Speaker 1: I just I think it's disrespectful with Lebron James and

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Speaker 1: everything that he's accomplished, not just in his whole career,

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Speaker 1: but what he's done recently. Like he was really good

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Speaker 1: this year, he's a bad GM and him and Clutch

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Speaker 1: and with the help of Genie and Rob butchered the

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Speaker 1: Acres and they missed the playoffs. But at basketball, Lebron

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Speaker 1: is still really really really really really really good. And

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Speaker 1: so I just don't think it's I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: respectful to those guys to suddenly just be like Tatum

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Speaker 1: is better, you know what I mean. But that's just

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Speaker 1: my approach. No, I think you're right, and it generally

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Speaker 1: pays to hold onto your stock. You know, nineteen, everybody

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Speaker 1: declared Lebron could no longer be the best player alive,

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Speaker 1: and then he came back and you know, title run

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah it's ridiculous, And yeah, I think that

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Speaker 1: you're on the right side here, Alright, Guys that is

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Speaker 1: all we have for tonight. As always, I appreciate your support.

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Speaker 1: We do have Game two of Net Celtics tomorrow, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure if I remember correctly from the schedule, so

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Speaker 1: we will be back right after the final buzzer of

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Speaker 1: all the games yesterday as or tomorrow. As always, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your guys support and we will see you then.

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Speaker 1: The volume