Speaker 1: I miss the green. For example, I'm already upset.
Speaker 2: When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 1: And when I find my ball.
Speaker 3: In a fried egg Friday egg, the dreaded Friday egg,
Speaker 3: Frida egg, Frida egg fried egg, Frida egg, bride egg Lie,
Speaker 3: I'm about ready to run off the golf course. Arnold
Speaker 3: Palmer is the Master of nineteen. He has buddy the
Speaker 3: last two holes to.
Speaker 1: Catch a bet bove ahead of cat that Jory.
Speaker 2: What are then say?
Speaker 3: This is a races gold?
Speaker 1: Anybody has ever seen that?
Speaker 4: A play?
Speaker 1: Yeah up the hill? Did you ever do one like that?
Speaker 3: And I think that's one of the greatest buddies I've ever.
Speaker 1: Seen him Friday Night.
Speaker 3: Maybe yes, sir, there it is you believe it?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: No? There it is a win for the ages? Is
Speaker 1: it his time?
Speaker 3: Now here it comes? Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Oh wow? In your life?
Speaker 3: Have you seen anything like that?
Speaker 1: Hello?
Speaker 2: Friends, I'm jim NANTZ. Is my great pleasure to welcome
Speaker 2: you to the Master's Tournament. I've heard it said before.
Speaker 1: It's a tradition unlike any other.
Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 4: Friday Podcast. Today I'm joined by Brendan Porath from SB
Speaker 4: Nation and we're going to break down the twenty eighteen Masters.
Speaker 1: Brendan, welcome on, Andy.
Speaker 2: Good to be with you. It's always an honor and
Speaker 2: a pleasure and pretty exciting week to break down here.
Speaker 2: Finally back back in the DC area after a full
Speaker 2: week down south and excited to chop it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was tough to get the schedule scheduling, and
Speaker 4: you know, I needed to. I felt like I needed
Speaker 4: to go through your agent that you don't have and
Speaker 4: smart and also Smarten is on the golf course, so
Speaker 4: he will not be joining us today.
Speaker 2: It's like the the Monday media blitz that they send
Speaker 2: the winner up, you know, to New York. I saw
Speaker 2: Reid was doing all this stuff, went to the next
Speaker 2: game MSG. It's like that Monday after. It's just a
Speaker 2: little little hectic, gotta do all the media blitz.
Speaker 4: I just enjoyed sitting and only like really tweeting stuff
Speaker 4: and not really doing anything. Is the decompression is real
Speaker 4: on Monday after the Masters?
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. You gotta kind of just start coming
Speaker 2: up for air right now, you know, back in the grind,
Speaker 2: taking kids to school and stuff, like that.
Speaker 4: So with Reid, you were on the ground, what do
Speaker 4: you think about the twenty eighteen Masters champion.
Speaker 2: I think he's a deserving champion. There's been the Internet
Speaker 2: being the Internet, There's been a backlash to read winning,
Speaker 2: and then a backlash to that backlash, and then I
Speaker 2: think now we're at a backlash to the backlash to
Speaker 2: the people Matt criticizing Reader saying Reid is a little
Speaker 2: a little different kind of champion. We'll just use the
Speaker 2: word different, so that that's that's the way the internet
Speaker 2: works here. I did not I don't know that I
Speaker 2: anticipated the kind of explosion of debate and drama around
Speaker 2: Pat Reid. But again, I think it's a reminder of
Speaker 2: the Masters being this this broader kind of pop cultural moment, right,
Speaker 2: It's not I mean more so than the US Open,
Speaker 2: more so than all the other majors, obviously ANYPGA tour event.
Speaker 2: It's this broader cultural moment. Just like we talked about,
Speaker 2: the winner goes up to New York, he's on these
Speaker 2: late shows, he's you know, the green jacket has it's
Speaker 2: it's it's a different kind of brand, and you know
Speaker 2: that I guess the winner immediately goes in the crosshairs,
Speaker 2: and and obviously the winner has some oddity, you know,
Speaker 2: odities about him and his family situation and his past,
Speaker 2: and I don't know that he and his family probably
Speaker 2: anticipated those crosshairs. Fully, I didn't, and I didn't kind
Speaker 2: of see this explosion coming. I don't know that we
Speaker 2: got it with Danny Willett. I mean, I guess the
Speaker 2: focus then was probably more on on Jordan's speed. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just a reminder of of really how much the
Speaker 2: Masters resonates beyond just the golf world, and you know,
Speaker 2: the golf nerds like us that are on the internet
Speaker 2: all day who know his story so well and are
Speaker 2: kind of like, yeah, yeah, we know that's a part
Speaker 2: of the part of the part of the package now.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was it was really kind of interesting
Speaker 2: to see what's what's transpired here over the last twenty
Speaker 2: four hours now that we're Tuesday, A week.
Speaker 4: After I tweeted something about how Nance came in on
Speaker 4: the coverage and immediately said like great buddies about Spieth
Speaker 4: and Thomas, and I uh, one of one of my
Speaker 4: followers tweeted back at me something about, like, you know,
Speaker 4: the magnitude of the Masters and how you have millions
Speaker 4: of it and that kind of clicked with me. I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, that is so true. Is that there
Speaker 4: are you know, like I have a ton of buddies
Speaker 4: that don't really watch golf, don't aren't really into golf,
Speaker 4: but this week they watch the every minute of the
Speaker 4: telecast and they might not know that Spieth and Thomas
Speaker 4: are good buddies.
Speaker 1: So like it.
Speaker 4: It is something And I think that's a great point
Speaker 4: about Reid and his family situation is is that we've
Speaker 4: known this for years, but not everybody else knew this.
Speaker 4: And I think, looking beyond the family thing, read deserve
Speaker 4: to win this. And I think you have to always
Speaker 4: applaud people on golf when they clearly improve on their
Speaker 4: deficiencies as a player. And I think that's the greater
Speaker 4: takeaway if you look beyond on his personal life is
Speaker 4: as a player.
Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of guys that we.
Speaker 4: Saw Martin Kaimer try and build his game for Augusta
Speaker 4: by trying to learn how to hit a draw off
Speaker 4: the tee and it like kind of killed him. You know,
Speaker 4: We've seen Luke Donald try and chase distance and that really.
Speaker 1: Set him back.
Speaker 4: But we see Patrick Reed like really learn how to
Speaker 4: hit different style golf shots than he's you know, comfortable with.
Speaker 4: And that's pretty cool to see a guy that like
Speaker 4: clearly saw what his problem was and went and fixed it.
Speaker 4: And you know, he's become a really way more complete
Speaker 4: player since he's been able to start to move that
Speaker 4: ball left or right and uh and I mean it
Speaker 4: just opens up the golf golf course for him. And
Speaker 4: he's such a great putter, so good around the greens
Speaker 4: that if he can hit it at all kinds of
Speaker 4: flags and have some success, I think we're going to
Speaker 4: see more wins from him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the thing, like we that's kind of
Speaker 2: been obscure and all the drama about people figuring out
Speaker 2: finding out who is who he is, his personality and
Speaker 2: his background, is that like this guy, I mean, was
Speaker 2: this that unexpected? Was this like you know, Zach Johnson
Speaker 2: or Trevor Ellmolman winning I don't know that it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen this guy be like kind of
Speaker 2: a stone cold killer and some pretty big events, and
Speaker 2: he's had the pedigree since college and junior days, and like,
Speaker 2: of course he's not as popular as Ricky and speech
Speaker 2: and and Justin Thomas and he made He doesn't have
Speaker 2: all those accomplishments either. I'd say he's got a better
Speaker 2: career than Ricky for.
Speaker 1: Sure right now.
Speaker 2: But like he's had the pedigree, he's you know, worked
Speaker 2: to get better obviously with finding new shots. And we
Speaker 2: saw the helicopter stuff all all week again, and you know,
Speaker 2: I don't I think that that's kind of been last
Speaker 2: unfortunately here in the washout the day after because of
Speaker 2: all the broader cultural pop culture debates about who he
Speaker 2: is and what's off and on limits, because this guy
Speaker 2: is like just nails. He's an incredible golfer. He you know,
Speaker 2: chips in for eagle when he needs too, he makes
Speaker 2: putts when he needs to. He gets maybe he caught
Speaker 2: a break or two, but every Master's winner catches a
Speaker 2: break or two. And he beat Jordan Speed, Ricky Fowler,
Speaker 2: and Rory McElroy. Like this wasn't like, you know, just
Speaker 2: kind of cruising in. He shot seventy one in his
Speaker 2: highest round of the week. But I think if you
Speaker 2: ask a lot of people on Sunday morning, they thought
Speaker 2: it'd be over par, they thought it'd be higher, but
Speaker 2: he made putts in the biggest moments, whether that was
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon when Rory was kind of losing his mind
Speaker 2: a group ahead and shooting sixty five, and then against
Speaker 2: Sunday at the very end on seventeen at eighteen with
Speaker 2: Ricky pushing him and knowing that speed had so like,
Speaker 2: I think we lose sight of fact that, like, the
Speaker 2: guy has been really one of the best golfers in
Speaker 2: the world now for years and this wasn't like that surprising,
Speaker 2: even if it wasn't as palatable as people wanted it
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 4: You know, the putts at twelve and fourteen were just massive,
Speaker 4: and I think what gets lost is kind of what
Speaker 4: you said is that this guy's been a great player,
Speaker 4: and a year ago the story was like why can't
Speaker 4: Patrick Reid play in majors? And now we're like shot,
Speaker 4: you know, the general public shock that he won this
Speaker 4: is he's I mean, he's a world class player, and
Speaker 4: I mean he's got now six titles.
Speaker 1: On his career.
Speaker 4: He's twenty seven, he's got a WGC, he's got a
Speaker 4: FedEx Cup win, and he's got a major. And it
Speaker 4: used to be when you hit twenty seven that you
Speaker 4: were just you know, kind of getting into your prime,
Speaker 4: and now the way that golf has shifted, it's almost
Speaker 4: that now is twenty five year prime. But I really
Speaker 4: think that this generation, there's so many good young players
Speaker 4: that we're going to see a renaissance of like the
Speaker 4: thirty two to thirty five year old prime. It's just
Speaker 4: you know, it's just taking time for these guys to
Speaker 4: develop into those players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree, and we could probably maybe say
Speaker 2: maybe say the same for Rick. But I mean Rick
Speaker 2: has all the kind of the popularity and notoriety and
Speaker 2: brand endorsing stuff, so we know all about him and
Speaker 2: assume he's already you know, one of the best in
Speaker 2: the world or a major winner, you know, has of
Speaker 2: that same class you know, Big three, Big four, all
Speaker 2: that stuff. But you know, maybe he is just maybe
Speaker 2: he is as well, just kind of coming into it.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think like Reid has kind of
Speaker 2: at every stage shown us that he belongs in that
Speaker 2: kind of that that upper class conversation and isn't really
Speaker 2: a one hit wonder or a fleeting thing. Now he
Speaker 2: gets lost sometimes and you don't hear from him for
Speaker 2: a couple of months, but you kind of can count
Speaker 2: on him season in and season out here through the
Speaker 2: first whatever six years of his career, however, four or
Speaker 2: five years of his career to at least make some
Speaker 2: noise every single season, and I think there's something to
Speaker 2: be said for being able to do that. And this
Speaker 2: win was not that big a surprise, obviously, like he's
Speaker 2: he's a weird dude, and talking to him, you kind
Speaker 2: of you don't get very far and it's it's a
Speaker 2: little icy. But you know, if we just want to
Speaker 2: talk about the golf, I don't think it's that surprising.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's always been an elite player from
Speaker 4: inside one hundred and twenty five yards. He's one of
Speaker 4: the best around the greens. He's a great putter, and
Speaker 4: I think where you've seen him go silent for a
Speaker 4: little while is just is the ball striking is not
Speaker 4: always there and but when but when it's there, there's
Speaker 4: few I mean, he's one of the five best players
Speaker 4: in the world because he's so good around the greens,
Speaker 4: I mean getting it in the hole and especially on him,
Speaker 4: we saw it in a Major on a Major championship Sunday.
Speaker 4: You know, things don't always go right, and that's where
Speaker 4: you need to have that game inside one twenty five
Speaker 4: to really take advantage of when you get opportunities and
Speaker 4: also recover from you know, the bad shots, the shaky
Speaker 4: shots he hit when you're not, you know, feeling as
Speaker 4: comfortable as you did the rest of the week leading
Speaker 4: up to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've read. I think like Ryan Lavner Golf Channel
Speaker 2: talk to Josh Gregory, former college coach and now performance coach,
Speaker 2: whatever that means. But you know, he's obviously like sharp
Speaker 2: guy with with with the talents, and he mentioned like
Speaker 2: if just obviously Reid has some deficiencies, but he's like
Speaker 2: if he if he just kind of if he keeps
Speaker 2: it between the pines off the tee, like look out,
Speaker 2: you know, like it's ball striking isn't always the sharpest,
Speaker 2: but it's a matter of just keeping that that slinging draw,
Speaker 2: you know, between the pines and it's you know, look out.
Speaker 2: He's going to contend as long as that that that
Speaker 2: when he catches a week like that, and we saw it.
Speaker 4: So let's talk about rick You touched on him. What
Speaker 4: do you take away from Ricky Fowler's performance? Obviously another
Speaker 4: runner up, another top five in a major. He's twenty
Speaker 4: nine and what is Ricky Fowler going to get a major?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think he's gonna get a MA for sure.
Speaker 2: I thought this was a different kind of contention for
Speaker 2: him going sixty seven sixty or sixty five sixty seven
Speaker 2: on the weekend and come on, that's that's worthy of praise,
Speaker 2: even if he came up one shot short with a
Speaker 2: birdie on the eighteen. I I thought this was like,
Speaker 2: I also think this was like the perfect spot for Ricky,
Speaker 2: Like all of Sunday was about Reid and Rory that
Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna get this like match play thing
Speaker 2: in the last group, and then it turned to speed
Speaker 2: and like we're gonna get We're getting the greatest final
Speaker 2: round of Major championship history and the greatest comeback ever,
Speaker 2: and Ricky was just kind of there in between those two,
Speaker 2: slowly plodding the law and then he hit the back
Speaker 2: nine and when he shoot thirty two coming in, that's
Speaker 2: kind of like the perfect spot for Ricky to get
Speaker 2: a major in my opinion at this stage of his career.
Speaker 2: Maybe that changes later, Like I don't know if he
Speaker 2: wants to be the guy one or two up going
Speaker 2: into Sunday or playing with Reid in that final Sunday
Speaker 2: pairing right now, and he admitted that after the after
Speaker 2: the round, he was pretty candid. It was it was
Speaker 2: kind of a different kind of Ricky. We've seen him on.
Speaker 2: You know, he was on. He was he was in
Speaker 2: tears for all intentsive purposes at twenty fourteen at Valhalla,
Speaker 2: right he was choked up talking about how like he
Speaker 2: was close, you know, top five every every major that year.
Speaker 2: He was, you know, emotional after losing again to Rory
Speaker 2: and feeling like, you know, his day would come, it's
Speaker 2: it's gonna come. But this time he was like, this
Speaker 2: is the first this Sunday, He's like, this is the
Speaker 2: first first major. I really really felt comfortable. And I
Speaker 2: thought that was pretty candid, and we haven't really we
Speaker 2: don't always get that from Ricky obviously, He's usually pretty straightforward,
Speaker 2: like I hit good shots, it wasn't there today, that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. It's always very cliche and nebulous. But
Speaker 2: he said, you know, I really felt comfortable. It's the
Speaker 2: first major Sunday. I really felt comfortable. And I think
Speaker 2: that was kind of the spot for him, kind of
Speaker 2: in between the speed and then the Reid Rory show,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it's the eighteenth pole
Speaker 2: and he's one shot off the lead. So at least
Speaker 2: that was a sense you get on the grounds. You
Speaker 2: don't get this holistic a view watching on TV because
Speaker 2: everyone's darting back and forth between reed and then the
Speaker 2: speed run, and then all of a sudden, Ricky was there.
Speaker 2: So I think that was like the ideal spot for
Speaker 2: him to really make his run towards the board. And
Speaker 2: I think one of these days, obviously it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: There's there are so many kind of just minuscule bounces
Speaker 2: that have prevented him from winning a major, and if
Speaker 2: he keeps putting himself in position, he's going to get one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think he's become so much more of a patient
Speaker 4: player over the years, And I think what I look
Speaker 4: at is last year Fouler was essentially in the exact
Speaker 4: same position on Sunday. He shot even par on the
Speaker 4: He was in the second to last group, you know,
Speaker 4: well within striking distance, just like this year. He shot
Speaker 4: even par on the front nine last year.
Speaker 1: This year he shot one.
Speaker 4: Under and then the back nine you could tell he pressed.
Speaker 4: And it's the worst thing you can do at Augusta
Speaker 4: National is the birdies are out there, but you can't
Speaker 4: push it. And he shot forty on the back nine
Speaker 4: last year. This year he shoots thirty two. He'd really
Speaker 4: let the course come to him and let the moment
Speaker 4: come to him by just executing on his game plan.
Speaker 4: But then you look, you finished one shot out of
Speaker 4: the lead. And it's it's a testament to the major
Speaker 4: championships of having your game plan and sticking to it,
Speaker 4: because I keep going back in my head, you know,
Speaker 4: on thirteen on Saturday, he just he goes for the
Speaker 4: green from.
Speaker 1: A bad lie with a fairway wood.
Speaker 4: In the right rough with that backpen, and I get it, like,
Speaker 4: if that fairwywood carries up to the front of the green,
Speaker 4: it runs right back to that backpen, it could make
Speaker 4: an eagle. But if you just lays it up, it's
Speaker 4: such an easy up and down. And I mean he
Speaker 4: got it up and down for par essentially where he
Speaker 4: could have laid the ball up to and he makes
Speaker 4: verdie and he's in a playoff.
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy to.
Speaker 4: Me how narrow the margin for winning is. And and
Speaker 4: it the one moment where Ricky really pushed and was
Speaker 4: a great you know, tried to try to get make
Speaker 4: something happen in the whole tournament. He it, he doesn't
Speaker 4: get the good break and that's the difference between winning
Speaker 4: and coming.
Speaker 1: In second or you know, playoff and second.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's a good point, man. The balance
Speaker 2: there is so I mean, that's kind of why make
Speaker 2: what makes golf, you know, so great is when do
Speaker 2: you try to push down at what day, at what
Speaker 2: position on the leader board, and do you at all?
Speaker 2: I think because Ricky he caught some he caught some
Speaker 2: crap last year, and I thought, rightfully so for the
Speaker 2: way he played that last round of the US Open,
Speaker 2: or you know, with he he really hung back and
Speaker 2: never kind of tried to get aggressive as Kopka took
Speaker 2: the lead. Now would it have mattered, Probably not the
Speaker 2: way Keopka played, and Ricky said as much. But he
Speaker 2: played extremely conservative golf for being in contention on Sunday
Speaker 2: at a major and needing to close a gap between
Speaker 2: him and the leader. And he was conservative definitely at
Speaker 2: the PGA, stuck to his game plan. Like you said,
Speaker 2: I remember following him a couple of days and he
Speaker 2: was with Rory and different players and Ricky was one
Speaker 2: hitting not driver off every off the most t boxes,
Speaker 2: whether it was a driving iron or a three wood
Speaker 2: or hybrid on a lawn and course, it was always
Speaker 2: Ricky kind of had his game plan. He was playing
Speaker 2: pretty conservative golf. He never It's like an incredible balance
Speaker 2: there with when and where you make a move, or
Speaker 2: do you make a move, or do you change your
Speaker 2: game plan at all? And I think you kind of
Speaker 2: make the point at Augusta you just you can't do
Speaker 2: that or you're screwed. And Rory made that same case
Speaker 2: this week. He's like, I've tried to learn just to
Speaker 2: be patient. That's the biggest problem I've had here is thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, because there's birdie chances out there, I need
Speaker 2: to shoot sixty four and I need to eagle or
Speaker 2: birdie every you know, part five and then pick up
Speaker 2: Bertie's at three and wherever else. And that's been my
Speaker 2: problem is because the margin there between you know, screwing
Speaker 2: yourself by getting too aggressive and needing to shoot a
Speaker 2: low number is kind of what makes golf so great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Jeff Ogilvie said something to me once.
Speaker 4: He said, Augusta's great because if I want to shoot
Speaker 4: seventy two, I can do it every single time. But
Speaker 4: the second I try and.
Speaker 1: Shoot sixty six, I shoot seventy six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's a perfect way
Speaker 2: to capture it. I mean, what do you think of
Speaker 2: This seems to be Ricky's approach. This is always and
Speaker 2: I think it's worth applauding that he never kind of
Speaker 2: he's not going to change his game plan him in Scavron,
Speaker 2: just stick to what they do all week, whether it's Sunday,
Speaker 2: late Sunday or you know, early Thursday. And I think
Speaker 2: like he had one stretch this week where he had
Speaker 2: three three plots I think in nine holes or maybe
Speaker 2: it was a round and right there, you know, clean
Speaker 2: that up and you're winning by two shots.
Speaker 4: So I wonder how many major champions have taken a
Speaker 4: penalty stroke.
Speaker 2: It's a good question. I'm trying to think.
Speaker 4: But I mean Ricky last year of the pg A,
Speaker 4: he had that triple bogie in the first round, yep,
Speaker 4: and that like that's the difference. It's just it It's
Speaker 4: to me, it seems like it's just you know, it's
Speaker 4: getting to the point where it's just one moment you
Speaker 4: can almost zero in on every single major with him,
Speaker 4: and uh, I think he's gonna win.
Speaker 1: He's got it. He's just he's so close so often.
Speaker 4: You know, I hate the parallels with Phil, but I
Speaker 4: mean the number of top five finishes and majors is
Speaker 4: is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I had it in the newsletter. I forgot exactly what
Speaker 1: it was, but I think it's.
Speaker 2: I think it's eight. Yeah, I think it's eight already, and.
Speaker 1: With three or four second place finishes, right.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, there's not all not all top fives are
Speaker 2: created equal. Yeah, yeah, I think he just keeps giving
Speaker 2: himself chances. He's going to win one. What do you
Speaker 2: what do you think best suits his game or is
Speaker 2: it just kind of it's suitable a multiple?
Speaker 4: That's I mean, that's the that's the great thing about
Speaker 4: followers that he's shown he can play at every type
Speaker 4: of major championship venue and he's got that all round game.
Speaker 4: It's a you know, you look at it and you
Speaker 4: look at different guys on tour and his his game
Speaker 4: isn't And we just talked about it with Reid. If
Speaker 4: he if he hits the ball, well he's gonna do well.
Speaker 4: But like Ricky is a world class ball striker, world
Speaker 4: class short game, world class with wedges, and he's a
Speaker 4: top ten putter in the world, so it's not like
Speaker 4: he doesn't have it. Everywhere should fit his game. Well,
Speaker 4: you look at Shannacock, that should fit him well. Carnoustie,
Speaker 4: I mean the Carnoustie and the Open Championship. Half of
Speaker 4: it's about catching the right side of the draw, so
Speaker 4: you know, all of a sudden that field can be
Speaker 4: shrunk by fifty and then uh and then the PGA
Speaker 4: Championship at at Belle Reeve. I mean that should be
Speaker 4: a good spot for him too. It's it's gonna be wet,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be soft, it's gonna be long, and it's
Speaker 4: gonna be it's gonna be tough maybe, but the softness
Speaker 4: of the golf course should you know, have a lot
Speaker 4: of It'll be way different than the three courses leading
Speaker 4: up to bell Reef.
Speaker 1: It'll be more of a.
Speaker 4: I think it'll be more like a course you see
Speaker 4: week in week out on PGA tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, I from everything I hear and read
Speaker 2: and talk to you about, it sounds like that's the case.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think you know just what we talked
Speaker 2: about because he's so adaptable and so good through the bag,
Speaker 2: you know, best maybe the best sand player in the world,
Speaker 2: top ten putter, all these things. You know, it's hard
Speaker 2: not to see him picking up one because if he
Speaker 2: adapts to every all four kinds of styles, and we know,
Speaker 2: we know for a fact he can contend that Augusta.
Speaker 2: There's no there's nothing at Augusta that that's blocking him
Speaker 2: out or you know, psyching him out. He knows he
Speaker 2: can play that course.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think also you just look at his career and
Speaker 4: he's getting better, right, and I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, that's that's definitely the case.
Speaker 4: He's more consistent than ever. I mean, last year he
Speaker 4: had the lowest miss cuts in his career. He had
Speaker 4: a boatloaded top ten finishes. I think he's getting.
Speaker 1: Better every year.
Speaker 4: It's not like we're we're talking about a guy that
Speaker 4: has stopped progressing as a player. But what's crazy We talked,
Speaker 4: you know, I talked about the margin for winning and losing,
Speaker 4: and you look at Jordan Spieth hitting the tree on
Speaker 4: eighteen twice essentially like a one shot penalty twice, I mean,
Speaker 4: and he misses the.
Speaker 1: Playoff by two shots.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, what do you what do you take
Speaker 4: away from from Speace week?
Speaker 1: Oh? It was just.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the round is incredible. Sunday was so
Speaker 2: fun to watch. But what I took away is just
Speaker 2: like like frustration about what could have been. And that's
Speaker 2: just that's golf, right, That's like you walking off me,
Speaker 2: walking off the course, saying, oh if I had just
Speaker 2: you know, I burned the edge on this hole, and I,
Speaker 2: you know, duffed this one, like I could have shot
Speaker 2: you know, three strokes better forced. That's everybody, whether it's
Speaker 2: you're the best in the world or some chop. But yeah,
Speaker 2: my main takeaway is just how close we were, and
Speaker 2: thinking back on you know, he's close at fourteen and
Speaker 2: the eagle putt at thirteen and I don't know eighteen.
Speaker 2: I the one earlier in the week, Like that was
Speaker 2: a yank, right, he like yanked that into those that
Speaker 2: like bathroom area and all those bushes down on the left.
Speaker 2: I thought on Sunday it was just like a slight
Speaker 2: pole and it just clipped like one little overhanging branch
Speaker 2: and he was kind of incredulous, couldn't believe it happened.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that that was a bad
Speaker 2: swaying or the ball was kind of destined for doom,
Speaker 2: like the one earlier in the week that was just
Speaker 2: a slight pole that up an overhanging branch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was not a bad shot.
Speaker 4: I mean, if that ball cuts back, I can't imagine
Speaker 4: it being more than a couple of yards into the rough.
Speaker 1: It might even be in the fairway.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I thought it was going just for the
Speaker 2: you know, the usual landing spot in front of the
Speaker 2: bunkers kind of coming back.
Speaker 4: And you look at the way he played going into that,
Speaker 4: like he hadn't missed a shot since I mean, god
Speaker 4: know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I mean.
Speaker 4: Every drive was a quick tea pick up, every approach
Speaker 4: shot was he was like staring down. I mean the
Speaker 4: one on sixteen I think and No Laying Ups podcast
Speaker 4: with Bones they did they Bones talked about the adrenaline
Speaker 4: and I think speeth they took the less club because
Speaker 4: of the adrenaline and it just came up short, right,
Speaker 4: and I think but I mean he ended up making
Speaker 4: the putt. But like you know, like this guy was
Speaker 4: locked in. You know, every shot was like right online,
Speaker 4: right number, like he was It's just so crazy to
Speaker 4: see a t shot that that happens too.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think like, so, yeah, what I
Speaker 2: walk away from is just what could have been a
Speaker 2: little bit of frustration. But the way golf works is
Speaker 2: like sixteen was gravy, you know that, I mean, how
Speaker 2: often does that one go in? So he kind of
Speaker 2: that's just the push and pull and the give and
Speaker 2: take of of major golf or any golf. So but
Speaker 2: again I walked away feeling like grateful to have seen it.
Speaker 2: I peeled off at seven from Reed and Rory and
Speaker 2: kind of raced down with a couple guys, Kevin van
Speaker 2: Volkenberg of ESPN. We raced down to eleven and kind
Speaker 2: of watched him in from the approach shot on eleven
Speaker 2: all the way in, and it was kind of it
Speaker 2: was grateful to have seen it, but also like what
Speaker 2: could have been if he just, you know, had the
Speaker 2: one on thirteen had fallen in or eighteen had fallen
Speaker 2: it just it would have been amazing to see him
Speaker 2: shoot sixty three, maybe even sixty two and chase down read.
Speaker 2: But again, like it's hard to I saw him that
Speaker 2: that morning, he was like had this forced march like
Speaker 2: head down. I was up at the clubhouse and he
Speaker 2: just like Zoom past. Everyone didn't look at anybody, didn't
Speaker 2: want to talk to anybody. Zoom passed into the clubhouse
Speaker 2: and I heard Jeff Shackelford say he talked to dan
Speaker 2: Zy and Dansey was like, I've never seen him like
Speaker 2: this before a round. I just think like it was
Speaker 2: more evidence that we're gonna get speed contending, if not
Speaker 2: every year at augusta like three out of four years.
Speaker 2: And maybe he won't shoot sixty four every time, but
Speaker 2: he's gonna have like a mid sixties round in there somewhere,
Speaker 2: you know, and maybe that gets him a top ten.
Speaker 2: But it's just it's it's too it's his horse. For course,
Speaker 2: he's gonna be doing it for the next twenty years.
Speaker 1: How many green jackets do you think he gets on
Speaker 1: his career.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, he's.
Speaker 1: Twenty four, so it'll be twenty five next year.
Speaker 2: You can talk about how he could have four, right
Speaker 2: or three, you know, twenty fourteen, it wasn't that close.
Speaker 2: But again that's what the Masters is like, it could
Speaker 2: be four or he could have shot sixty two, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't. You know. I think like it's hard to
Speaker 2: get a green jacket. So I think just based on
Speaker 2: the fact that he's come close five, you know, for
Speaker 2: the last five years, doesn't mean he's gonna win five
Speaker 2: green jackets.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just I think he gets three. I think that's
Speaker 2: probably on the low side. Most people would.
Speaker 1: Say, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd probably set the over under on at
Speaker 4: three and a half. I I mean, I I just
Speaker 4: the way he plays the golf course, I can't foresee
Speaker 4: him not joining the four jacket club, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, I know that that seems to be like
Speaker 2: the Commntional Wisdom, which is a pretty amazing club though, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just Ronie Jack and Tiger. It's hard
Speaker 2: to get there, even if you are always finishing. And
Speaker 2: we saw Phil like two thousand to twenty ten. I
Speaker 2: don't think he finished outside the top ten. You got
Speaker 2: three three green jackets out of it. So I think,
Speaker 2: like it's it's easy to It's not easy, but you know,
Speaker 2: finishing in the top five and the top ten, it's
Speaker 2: a little different than you need to be lucky, you
Speaker 2: need to be fortunate to also win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Reid got some really good breaks with
Speaker 4: the ball on thirteen, hitting the flag on seventeen. You know,
Speaker 4: you don't win a major championship without good breaks, and
Speaker 4: you know there's usually unless you just run away. I
Speaker 4: mean we saw Speeth run away. I mean, keep go.
Speaker 4: I feel like one at Aaron Hills without good breaks.
Speaker 4: But for the most part, you got to have some
Speaker 4: things go your way. And I mean speak sixty six
Speaker 4: in the first round, sixty four in the last round.
Speaker 1: It's what what's crazy.
Speaker 4: To me is that on the day everybody took advantage
Speaker 4: of the course, he just couldn't get it going. I
Speaker 4: think it almost the weather might have been detrimental to
Speaker 4: the way speed plays.
Speaker 1: AUGUSTA, sure, it's sure.
Speaker 4: How did the golf course seem to change from Friday
Speaker 4: to Saturday to Sunday? From my lens, it seemed like
Speaker 4: on Sunday there just wasn't a lot of fire in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. You know, Saturday was
Speaker 2: just cold and rainy. You know, it went from missing
Speaker 2: to kind of a light rain, and then you know,
Speaker 2: you didn't see the sun on the entire day. Sunday
Speaker 2: was Sunday was chilly, but you know, yeah, it had
Speaker 2: softened a bit, like it did not have that that yeah, firmness,
Speaker 2: I think that you always expect with Augusta. And there
Speaker 2: was a sixty four out there and a couple of
Speaker 2: rounds of what what Cam Smith's jock sick, Yeah, sixty seven.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know that it had that kind
Speaker 2: of that challenge on the on the pro shots into
Speaker 2: the green, but you know that's that's not always how
Speaker 2: how you how it falls out Augusta.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, it seemed like the the Aprons were
Speaker 4: just kind of slow to like the balls weren't weren't
Speaker 4: rolling off the greens like they would.
Speaker 2: It's what happened with Reed's ball. It just stuck on
Speaker 2: the bank, right, Yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 1: It was like a little rough there.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I for I don't know if there's
Speaker 4: been I was really surprised, like I don't remember there
Speaker 4: being rough there, like which it's kind of I mean,
Speaker 4: how is that bank not shaved?
Speaker 1: And every other bank is shaved right right?
Speaker 4: But what you yeah, you know that was that was
Speaker 4: crazy to me, is like is like how how how
Speaker 4: is that bank not shaved? And when fifteen we watched
Speaker 4: their yo put three wet or four wet shots into
Speaker 4: the water.
Speaker 2: There, right right, right, Yeah, that yeah, it makes sense
Speaker 2: on a par five where going for it is no
Speaker 2: longer this momentous decision. As Rudley talked about that, maybe
Speaker 2: that green consort just makes it so you but if
Speaker 2: fifteen has it shaved, yeah, you're right, I mean why
Speaker 2: why would thirteen have that kind of extra firewall there? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know what you said is true for sure
Speaker 2: that the balls, some of the balls you expect to
Speaker 2: kind of run out ten twenty yards back down the
Speaker 2: fairway or over the back. We're kind of sticking closer
Speaker 2: to the you know, the apron of the green.
Speaker 4: So hey, you know something, I'm kind of surprised with
Speaker 4: all the money Augusta has and their love to tinker,
Speaker 4: but I think it would it would require a change
Speaker 4: in their philosophy. Is like how they haven't sand capped
Speaker 4: the fairways of the golf course, you know, where they
Speaker 4: could essentially have a course that if it rained, it's
Speaker 4: still played firm and fast. But obviously with the way
Speaker 4: they mow the fairways and Tiger alluded to it a
Speaker 4: lot in his book, they want the course to play longer.
Speaker 4: But I think if it played firmer and faster in
Speaker 4: the fairways. It would just be a better test because
Speaker 4: it would separate the guys that are really on their
Speaker 4: game and being extremely precise more and more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that when we were walking around down
Speaker 2: there on Wednesday, sand cap in it. I think there's
Speaker 2: obviously a lot of merit to that. And someone mentioned Rory.
Speaker 2: You know, we always hear about Rory rainy conditions, like
Speaker 2: if you have to tweet about it, if it happens,
Speaker 2: if it rains, and Roy's in contention, You're mandatory, You're
Speaker 2: required by law to tweet about how there's Rory conditions now.
Speaker 2: But I think you know, he felt like he could
Speaker 2: just kind of grip it and rip it this week.
Speaker 2: A lot more or more often than you know, we
Speaker 2: see the deficiencies in his game, whether it's wedge play
Speaker 2: or being you know, being precise. Is with precise with
Speaker 2: his wedges like you talked about, when it's firm and fast.
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't always have to do that.
Speaker 1: This week. He's he's such a good player with his
Speaker 1: irons and his long game is so good.
Speaker 4: You have to believe that the fact that the ball
Speaker 4: and technology and everything that goes into this insane distance
Speaker 4: game that we've had has actually hindered his career because
Speaker 4: he's the best long iron player on tour and mid
Speaker 4: iron player on tour, and he just doesn't really have
Speaker 4: to hit a lot of them. Nobody has to hit
Speaker 4: a lot of them anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his shot on two was incredible from a you
Speaker 2: know two is not an even.
Speaker 1: Lie yeah downhill lie, yeah, side hill lie.
Speaker 2: Yep. He was on the left half of the left
Speaker 2: left side of the faraway talk and then the pins
Speaker 2: obviously back right on Sunday every Sunday, so he just
Speaker 2: dropped it right in. That's not a short iron shot.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe it's not.
Speaker 1: What he hit. I think he hit a seven iron,
Speaker 1: but it's I mean it's a mid iron.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, at this point, it's not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a DJ only hit one one shot more
Speaker 4: than a six iron end up Part four or more
Speaker 4: than a seven iron ended up Part four last year, ah.
Speaker 2: Last year. Yeah, So it's not it's not hitting a
Speaker 2: four iron, but you know, he he he just he
Speaker 2: is that that on those Part five. Such an incredible
Speaker 2: ball striker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's what about John ram best major finish kind
Speaker 4: of kind of got out of his his his good
Speaker 4: mood in the back the last few holes. But I mean,
Speaker 4: this guy's gonna win majors, and I think Augusta is
Speaker 4: a perfect place for him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think like the patience thing you talked about earlier
Speaker 2: and learning to get better, progressing like with Ricky, and
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna happen with Ron, but just faster.
Speaker 2: You know, he's not gonna be twenty nine like rick
Speaker 2: There's just there's just a lot of moments where you know,
Speaker 2: whether it was Friday or Saturday. I watched him for
Speaker 2: a while on Friday, and it's just sloppy, right, sloppy
Speaker 2: with his wedd He's an incredible short game player. Most
Speaker 2: people just associate with him with being like this big,
Speaker 2: burly guy who smashes the ball. But I love to
Speaker 2: watch him with his wedges and putter, and there was
Speaker 2: just some sloppy shots where there was nine just not
Speaker 2: getting it to the right level. And I think that's
Speaker 2: all going to change as he plays the course more.
Speaker 2: You know, understanding how to miss and where to miss,
Speaker 2: certainly with your approach shots and with your wedges. But again,
Speaker 2: he was for being on the ground. You know, you
Speaker 2: got what is he the number three player in the world.
Speaker 2: It was just kind of you just kind of lurking
Speaker 2: there with Ricky and everyone was focused on Reed and
Speaker 2: Rory at the start and then speed you know, for
Speaker 2: the end. So yeah, he had a nice little spot there,
Speaker 2: just kind of lurking around and not being the focus
Speaker 2: of the show. But w what do you go? Sixty eight,
Speaker 2: sixty five, sixty nine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that fifteenth holes were kind of unraveled.
Speaker 4: He hit that iron shot.
Speaker 1: He was a yard from being absolutely perfect on that
Speaker 1: right and he found the water.
Speaker 4: But I mean that if he would have hit that close,
Speaker 4: it would have been really reminiscent of Sergio's eagle like
Speaker 4: a year before, because he I mean it was right
Speaker 4: at the flag and literally one yard from from perfection,
Speaker 4: and you know, he gets an eagle there and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's, you know, a three shot swing,
Speaker 4: and we're talking about John ram As, you know, a
Speaker 4: guy that might have won. You know, it's but then
Speaker 4: in the on.
Speaker 1: The flip side, it.
Speaker 4: He I mean, if he gets that up and down
Speaker 4: he I mean that's the thing with ram is his
Speaker 4: patients and maturity on the course need to get a
Speaker 4: little better because it just doesn't seem like, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm okay with these guys getting mad, and you can
Speaker 4: get mad like and get it out, but with ram
Speaker 4: it just seems to stick with them like one bad
Speaker 4: thing and like it just like the rest of his
Speaker 4: round or like for like a six hole stretch, he's
Speaker 4: just out of the you know, he's in another world
Speaker 4: and and that can't happen in major championships.
Speaker 2: I saw that seventeen on Sunday on the Green. He
Speaker 2: took his fist just like pounded it into the turf
Speaker 2: like like a you know, a pitcher going back and
Speaker 2: like breaking the phone box or you know, punching his
Speaker 2: locker and breaking his hand to being out for six weeks. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he like pounded the terf. Saw him on Friday take
Speaker 2: his club and wind up to slam it into his bag.
Speaker 2: Saw him toss his club, not like throw it in anger,
Speaker 2: but launch it at his bag. I'm eighteen on Friday,
Speaker 2: He's definitely like he gets on tilt there and that's
Speaker 2: not a place you can do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It with the same thing with Reid.
Speaker 4: It is like these guys when they make like I
Speaker 4: was an idiot when I was twenty two and twenty three, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, right, I'm still an idiot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just not one that people watch every move.
Speaker 1: So it's it's uh.
Speaker 2: He did get asked about sev and Sergio. It's like
Speaker 2: required in Jose, Like it's just it's just mandatory. He
Speaker 2: was asked Saturday night, what what do sev and Sergio
Speaker 2: mean to you? What did you take from that? It's like,
Speaker 2: just because he's from Spain doesn't mean you know, he
Speaker 2: has their game more he you know, I get it's
Speaker 2: such an easy kind of cliche and fascile narrative to
Speaker 2: apply to him. But I remember the players last year.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you know, they made it sound like
Speaker 2: Sergio had like rocked him from the cradle and brought
Speaker 2: him all the way up. He's like, no, I never
Speaker 2: really met Sergio until I came to the States, you know,
Speaker 2: went to Arizona State. It's not he's like the guy
Speaker 2: the questioner obviously wanted him to say. You know, they
Speaker 2: were like hitting balls on the beach together back in
Speaker 2: Spain when they were you know, little kids. Sergio has
Speaker 2: shown him how to play golf. But it's like, no,
Speaker 2: I never met Sergio and until you know, I was
Speaker 2: you know, almost twenty. But yeah, that kid's frustrating. Obviously
Speaker 2: being on the grounds is just always getting the same
Speaker 2: kind of question.
Speaker 4: So we had we're like fifty minutes in and we
Speaker 4: haven't talked about Tiger and Phil who Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: the big lead up, and obviously it had to be
Speaker 4: is slightly disappointing not to see one of them in
Speaker 4: the mix. But from my standpoint, just having Tiger playing
Speaker 4: and making the cut and being relevant is a big
Speaker 4: win at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, shut sixty nine on Sunday, he made
Speaker 2: the cut, you know, by one.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I think we got lost kind of in the hysteria
Speaker 2: of playing those flat Florida courses and assuming, you know,
Speaker 2: we've seen him show up, and I count myself guilty
Speaker 2: for this, Like we've seen him show up in twenty
Speaker 2: ten after being in hiding for six months. We saw
Speaker 2: him show up in twenty fifteen after being hiding in
Speaker 2: two months, trying to figure out how to chip like
Speaker 2: and just assume he would contend or not content but
Speaker 2: you know, be top ten, top fifteen, and you know
Speaker 2: he's just he's forty two now, He's not that golfer
Speaker 2: and he hasn't played really in two years, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I got caught up in that, you know, this is
Speaker 2: not you know, some flat Bay Hill course, and he
Speaker 2: made the cut. I think we need to kind of
Speaker 2: always shift our expectations and maybe that Florida swaying got
Speaker 2: us a little off kilter, and making the cut after
Speaker 2: not playing it since twenty fifteen is an accomplishment, it is,
Speaker 2: and it was good, just good to have him there,
Speaker 2: and you know, I wish, you know, we could have
Speaker 2: seen him more. But the Masters is that kind of event.
Speaker 2: The Masters is is bigger than Tiger. Obviously Tiger completely
Speaker 2: changes the dynamic. But if Tiger's playing early Sunday at
Speaker 2: the vals Bar, that's like the most important part of
Speaker 2: the vals Bar, right for for the larger golf or
Speaker 2: for the larger sports world. But you know, if Tiger's
Speaker 2: playing early Sunday at the Masters, it's still the Masters,
Speaker 2: and we're going to care more about what's happening from
Speaker 2: you know, three to seven o'clock than what how you know,
Speaker 2: every shot of Tiger's early Sunday round. So he got
Speaker 2: you know, a little lost in the shuffle, but it
Speaker 2: was just good to have him there on the weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the difference. I think he just
Speaker 4: wasn't coming. You saw, it takes time for him to
Speaker 4: get his competitive chops back on a regular PGA Tour event.
Speaker 4: And I think it's the same thing with majors, Like
Speaker 4: you know, Major championship golf is different than week in,
Speaker 4: week out PGA Tour golf, and it's just something.
Speaker 1: He hadn't done in a while.
Speaker 4: And I think that getting that comfortable, getting comfortable again
Speaker 4: and Major Championship golf is just the difference. It's a
Speaker 4: different level of play and it requires a little bit,
Speaker 4: it's just feels different. And I think he just was
Speaker 4: really sloppy early in the week.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously think people talk about the part of
Speaker 2: five and that was kind of the thing I expected
Speaker 2: to be there for him, be there for him this week.
Speaker 2: Was that ball striking, And it wasn't, you know, he
Speaker 2: said him he put himself in good spots several times
Speaker 2: on whether it was two or eight, and just kind
Speaker 2: of you know, yank, these you know, pretty moderate approach
Speaker 2: shots that we were talking about. The ball striking just
Speaker 2: wasn't there. But going back to the major thing, I
Speaker 2: think the injuries and all that's happened. Kind of obscure
Speaker 2: that he wasn't the best on the weekend at Major's
Speaker 2: before he got hurt, right, I mean we saw like
Speaker 2: kind of in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, whether it
Speaker 2: was Mirrorfield or Hill, he wasn't. I mean, things changed
Speaker 2: for him on the weekend of the Major. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if that goes back to two thousand and nine,
Speaker 2: since you know, his everyone kind of got a glimpse
Speaker 2: into his personal life and that whole kind of the
Speaker 2: veneer fell and crumbled all around him. But like he
Speaker 2: wasn't he was a different player on the weekend at
Speaker 2: Majors in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, and he did
Speaker 2: get sloppy and wasn't as sharp. And you know, obviously
Speaker 2: we're in how five years removed with a ton of
Speaker 2: stuff that's happened. But I think that might get lost
Speaker 2: in this lost in the shuffle of just saying, well,
Speaker 2: he's just he's been hurt and he's got to get
Speaker 2: back to play him like he did, you know, when
Speaker 2: he didn't have before all the back troubles. So so
Speaker 2: I don't know that that may be like a lingering,
Speaker 2: longer issue than simply just coming back from back thirty.
Speaker 4: Yeah. They it's it's tricky. You know, he's the greatest player,
Speaker 4: the most dominant player of all time. You know, people
Speaker 4: will always argue about the greatest but and it's it's
Speaker 4: hard to accept it if he's a different player now
Speaker 4: because we all remember what he was once was. But
Speaker 4: it's you know, I think it's a matter of time.
Speaker 4: I think he will if he is, assuming he can
Speaker 4: stay healthy the next three to five years, I think
Speaker 4: we'll see him on a on a Master Sunday and contention, Yeah.
Speaker 2: No doubt. No, I think there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to have a late Sunday tea
Speaker 2: time somewhere in the next three to five as long
Speaker 2: as he's playing.
Speaker 1: I mean, his short game is absolutely insane.
Speaker 4: Like he's got shots like he hit that he had
Speaker 4: a flop shot on eight over the giant mound from
Speaker 4: the left that just like stopped on a diamond. You
Speaker 4: sit back and you're like, who has that shot? Like,
Speaker 4: does anybody really have that shot other than Tiger?
Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't think they necessarily do. Phil.
Speaker 1: You you probably.
Speaker 4: Could make an argument, but I mean, the game is
Speaker 4: coming back. It's it's just you can take two years,
Speaker 4: you know, essentially like really four years off. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: he's gonna have some rust. So anybody that disappointed surprise
Speaker 4: this week for you?
Speaker 2: You know, I you know who surprised me as Hendric Extension.
Speaker 2: Your guy's been pretty garbage at Augusta.
Speaker 1: And shockingly bad though yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess shockingly bad. But I just and he's
Speaker 2: not been that good this year except for bay Hill,
Speaker 2: and he finished T five and it was kind of
Speaker 2: always always lurking. Uh, didn't didn't have that that you know,
Speaker 2: mid sixties sixty seven type round that that put him
Speaker 2: put him in the conversation with Fowler and Read and speed.
Speaker 2: But you know, he had four rounds in the red
Speaker 2: and finished T five, So I thought that was kind
Speaker 2: of a surprise. I don't know who disappointed. I guess
Speaker 2: Dustin Johnson finished T ten, but it just felt like
Speaker 2: he was never in it. I guess we we we
Speaker 2: get spoiled by DJ, you know, eagling every part five
Speaker 2: and past masters that you know you want that again
Speaker 2: and you want another sixty six with three or four
Speaker 2: eagles on the card. It's not that easy to do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just thought I thought DJ was kind of coming
Speaker 2: in without a lot of fanfare and would at least
Speaker 2: be more in the conversation on Sunday, but that said
Speaker 2: like a bad week or a quiet week, I guess
Speaker 2: not bad. A quiet week for DJ was.
Speaker 1: T ten, So yeah, I was.
Speaker 4: Cam Smith is one that jumps out to me twenty
Speaker 4: four years old, and now he's got his second top
Speaker 4: five and a major. You know, he finished I think
Speaker 4: t third at Chambers Bay and now T fifth at
Speaker 4: at Augusta National. I think he's he's going to be
Speaker 4: a star. You know, he got his first individual win
Speaker 4: at the Ossie Open this year and uh or was
Speaker 4: it the Aussie PGA CPGA he won that Zurich but
Speaker 4: kid his nails. I think he's a He's got the
Speaker 4: type of game that's going to thrive at major champion
Speaker 4: and chips and he might be you know, everybody looks
Speaker 4: at you know the different you know, next Aussie guy,
Speaker 4: and he's gonna be one of them. I mean, they're
Speaker 4: always this pipeline of great Aussie players.
Speaker 2: I talked to some I talked to some ass guys
Speaker 2: about him. Actually I have some just like a connection
Speaker 2: to him because he played with my dad in Cleveland
Speaker 2: at the web event. So I'm kind of like a fan,
Speaker 2: just random, random fan. But I talked to some Aussie
Speaker 2: guys and I've talked to his coach and stuff in
Speaker 2: the past, and like he they worry about him, like
Speaker 2: he's just a chiller, Like he's not he's the very
Speaker 2: opposite of reed, Like he would be fine if he
Speaker 2: didn't have this incredible golf talent. He'd be fine, just
Speaker 2: like working at a bar a pub with his buddies
Speaker 2: back in Australia. And I heard like when he when
Speaker 2: he got that T five and Chambers, he just kind
Speaker 2: of like like, oh that was cool and went and
Speaker 2: now I've got some job security and he kind of
Speaker 2: went home and just turn out in Australia. I heard
Speaker 2: like that before the Masters, he was just kind of
Speaker 2: screwing around and with his friends in Panavidra. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying like he's he's being irresponsible or anything. He's just
Speaker 2: kind of hanging it out, chilling, Like he's the very
Speaker 2: opposite of read. That may work better for him than
Speaker 2: being read.
Speaker 4: But it like goes back to what somebody said, is
Speaker 4: like he either got to be like super smart, like
Speaker 4: like like Phil like where you're so analytical, or you
Speaker 4: have to be on the complete opposite end of the
Speaker 4: spectrum like DJ to be a really great golfer.
Speaker 1: It's like being in the middle is like the worst
Speaker 1: ste you can be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, yeah, I think he just kind of
Speaker 2: strolls up to the golf course and he's got so
Speaker 2: much talent. He's like, that's the way he plays. He
Speaker 2: doesn't need to be grinding or worrying about every contour.
Speaker 2: He's got it enough talent to finish TEA five and
Speaker 2: the Masters.
Speaker 4: So I was I was a little disappointed with Rose
Speaker 4: and Casey, you know those guys. I mean you see
Speaker 4: Casey shoots sixty nine sixty five on the on the
Speaker 4: weekend and it's.
Speaker 1: Like, ahn, what what was it?
Speaker 4: But I think he went in with more expectations than
Speaker 4: ever before. I mean I forgot who on on Golf
Speaker 4: Channel was picked him, you know and and live from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who what's going on with Peters seventy eight MC?
Speaker 1: He's young, you know, he's not playing.
Speaker 2: Well all year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been a little off. I think, you like anything,
Speaker 4: I mean the crazy thing is like you think about
Speaker 4: like the Ryder Cup, and like with all these guys,
Speaker 4: these Euros, like he might not make the team this year,
Speaker 4: but I think he'll get he'll get it together.
Speaker 1: It's he.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a really good player, I think still,
Speaker 4: and I think, you know, like his his skill set,
Speaker 4: but like it should shows you got it. You can
Speaker 4: have a game that's built for Augusta, but you still
Speaker 4: got to play well. It's not like you can show
Speaker 4: up and not have your best stuff and contend.
Speaker 2: So I got a question. We were talking about Tiger
Speaker 2: and Phil. Do you think Phil's gonna win another Masters?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I Uh, it's not been It's not been that great
Speaker 2: since twenty twelve. He had that T two in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: but that I mean that was Jordan Speed was like
Speaker 2: five six shots ahead the whole time, and he kind
Speaker 2: of came back and caught rose to finish T two,
Speaker 2: And since then it's not been that great. I mean
Speaker 2: he I think he hadn't he hadn't shot below seventy
Speaker 2: until Sunday this Sunday for since that, for like two
Speaker 2: or three years, he hadn't broken seventy. I just we
Speaker 2: we we so often here like, oh, he's gonna win
Speaker 2: in his fifties, he's gonna contend into his sixties. It's
Speaker 2: not been that great since twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at where he won too, he.
Speaker 4: Wanted chip Chipoltepec, which isn't really I mean, it's not
Speaker 4: a premier golf course.
Speaker 1: Ay.
Speaker 4: I think when you I mean when you look down
Speaker 4: the list, like would you rather you know, like Mark Leishman.
Speaker 1: Or Phil year in, year out at Augusta? Who would
Speaker 1: you take from now? Like going forward?
Speaker 2: Kyi Leishman?
Speaker 1: So like Leishman, what is he probably fifteen on your
Speaker 1: list of potential winners? Yeah, ten to fifteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we know he's got to proven track
Speaker 2: record of shooting low rounds there.
Speaker 4: Would you would you pick at this point Tommy Fleetwood
Speaker 4: or Phil Mickelson.
Speaker 1: For the for the next five years at Augusta?
Speaker 2: Hm hmm that's a good one, probably Fleetwood.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, like you start to go down the list and
Speaker 4: you're like whoa, Like you know, like he's he's fallen
Speaker 4: down and you haven't even talked about like a guy
Speaker 4: like Tony Fenow who finished teach ten and his first
Speaker 4: Masters with a dislocated ankle. I mean, like I put
Speaker 4: me now in my sleepers thing, because like his game
Speaker 4: is just it screams Augusta National.
Speaker 1: He's world class, like obviously everybody that goes.
Speaker 4: He's the longest player on tour, but he's like top
Speaker 4: fifteen in strokes gained approach and then he also has
Speaker 4: an incredible short game. I think he's in the top
Speaker 4: twenty on the PGA Tour around the green strokes game.
Speaker 4: So like you look at a guy like that, and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you know, you start adding more
Speaker 4: and more of these guys, like Justin Rose isn't going
Speaker 4: anywhere for the next five years. Louis U stays and
Speaker 4: it's going to be there, Like you know, like Phil
Speaker 4: all of a sudden falls down my list to like
Speaker 4: maybe like the twentieth best pick at Augusta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good way of capturing it of
Speaker 2: just how much there now is, how much he would
Speaker 2: need to beat to get another green jacket, and and
Speaker 2: you know he's not really contended.
Speaker 4: It's well it's not and it's not so much about Phil.
Speaker 4: Like if Phil plays at his high level, at a
Speaker 4: high level, like he's gonna have a shot, but like,
Speaker 4: what are the chances of these other twenty guys not
Speaker 4: playing at a high level? Like there's just so so
Speaker 4: many great players right now that it's hard to imagine.
Speaker 1: All of them.
Speaker 4: You know, Like if if Fowler, Spith, or let's just say,
Speaker 4: we'll say Speith, Rory, JT or DJ really has their
Speaker 4: A game, Phil has no chance. Yeah, right, So like
Speaker 4: that's like the thing that I think sticks out is
Speaker 4: like Phil not only has to have his A game,
Speaker 4: his A plus game, but he also needs these other guys.
Speaker 1: Not to not to play. Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right, And I think like just
Speaker 2: it's easy. It's an easy talking point that he's gonna
Speaker 2: win again and an easy kind of thing to say
Speaker 2: he's gonna contend forever. But maybe not.
Speaker 1: You got anything else you want to hit on here?
Speaker 4: Not?
Speaker 2: Not really? I mean, it was a fantastic week. My
Speaker 2: favorite moment was encountering a middle aged man and a
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Jersey Colts jersey walking around Augusta. Wasn't a shot,
Speaker 2: wasn't Speech's pott on sixteen? Just this guy in the
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Colts jersey with this rain jacket tied around
Speaker 2: his waist and some like old school playing new balances,
Speaker 2: And I was just thinking, like, what's what's the thought process?
Speaker 2: What's what's the thought process? In the morning, I'm going
Speaker 2: to the Masters. I'm gonna put on my colts Marvin
Speaker 2: Harrison Jersey.
Speaker 4: That is what I was thinking, is like you know
Speaker 4: the head he had it planned, you know it was
Speaker 4: it just scripting. It's like, no, I'm going to the Masters,
Speaker 4: but this is what I'm wearing because I love this thing.
Speaker 2: It makes There was no Marvin Harrison wasn't around. I don't.
Speaker 2: I was just so confused.
Speaker 4: I was what do you think about Nike putting the
Speaker 4: kaibash on Read with the Sunday Rat.
Speaker 2: I don't think apparel companies should be depends that depends
Speaker 2: on who you are. Obviously, they pay these guys a
Speaker 2: ton of money. This thing's gotten more pub and attention
Speaker 2: than it deserves. But I don't I think Read should
Speaker 2: be allowed to He's leading the damn Masters, and he
Speaker 2: should be allowed to wear.
Speaker 1: What he wants.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know Augusta made his wife take off her
Speaker 4: Cappelloua hat also and put on an Augusta hat.
Speaker 2: Is that true? I hadn't seen that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like holding her other hat. Wow.
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard about that. But that's not surprising and
Speaker 2: maybe not the most defensive thing about her Sunday outfit.
Speaker 4: But the Reeds were just getting bullied on their their apparel.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe Patrick will now wear Sunday pink.
Speaker 2: Sunday isalea pink.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the thought. You know, it worked. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's really superstitious, though, is he?
Speaker 2: No? I don't. I mean, I think the red thing
Speaker 2: was just an homage to Tiger and he's stuck with it. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he is. He doesn't. He use like
Speaker 2: the old ryder cups a bunch of that stuff, like
Speaker 2: the yardage book and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh, I'm uh, I'll be I'm really interested
Speaker 4: to see what happens with Reid after this. I think
Speaker 4: he's a guy that obviously is you know, no shortage
Speaker 4: of confidence, and this thing's gonna put him through the
Speaker 4: moon on it. You know, Patrick Green might just be
Speaker 4: becoming a you know, top top five player, like he proclaimed.
Speaker 2: It's good for me, good for content. You know, He's
Speaker 2: just I think as he gets better, you know, as
Speaker 2: he gets accomplishes more and more and gets more cocky.
Speaker 2: Might might lead to some friction or some drama. So
Speaker 2: it's good for me.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do some overrated underrated. Yeah, the eighteenth hole.
Speaker 2: That's this is this is your wheelhouse. I think it's
Speaker 2: I think it's it's overrated.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: And I'm coming off this piste off about Speed getting
Speaker 2: robbed if by that overhanging limb. I think it's. I
Speaker 2: think it's too narrow and too difficult to make h
Speaker 2: make a birdie. I think it's overrated. I I find
Speaker 2: it frustrating, but I'm I'm very My opinion is colored
Speaker 2: by watching Speed's round come undone, speeds Chase at History
Speaker 2: come undone there.
Speaker 1: I think, uh, it's I think they just got to
Speaker 1: do a little tree trimming. It's always been a shoot.
Speaker 4: It is the one thing but that you know, obviously
Speaker 4: they they lengthened it and move that back tea back,
Speaker 4: so like the shoot is a lot different now than
Speaker 4: it was when there was originally designed. I think, I
Speaker 4: really really, I mean everybody that reads my stuff will
Speaker 4: know this.
Speaker 1: I really dislike bunkers on the outside of dog likes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right right, I just I can't stand them now.
Speaker 4: Granted, like the hole does not play at all the
Speaker 4: way it should because of you know, the distance, and
Speaker 4: you know, nobody expected these guys to be able to
Speaker 4: hit wedges into a four hundred and sixty five yard
Speaker 4: hole uphill, but that's what it's become.
Speaker 2: I just I so overrated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the greens like way smaller than it
Speaker 4: used to be, But I mean, I think it's it's
Speaker 4: a cool I like the idea of having a hole.
Speaker 4: The seventeenth gets a lot of flack, and I think
Speaker 4: that it should be wider because they planted all these trees,
Speaker 4: which are bad and it's negatively, but I like that
Speaker 4: you have this stretch of birdie holes like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
Speaker 4: sixteen are all gettible, and I don't want it to
Speaker 4: be like a driveable part four coming in like you
Speaker 4: got to it's a major championship, Like make these guys
Speaker 4: hit tough golf shots coming in and yeah, seventeen eighteen
Speaker 4: do that. So I think they just need to do
Speaker 4: a little bit of tree work to just give it.
Speaker 4: It's still claustrophobic back there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of love watching the seventeenth green and
Speaker 2: then bounce it over the eighteenth t. I mean, I know, yeah,
Speaker 2: seventeen catches some crap for being I don't know, just
Speaker 2: having not a ton of character. But the green is
Speaker 2: really fun. It's fun to watch prouch shots in there
Speaker 2: and watch them pun on that green.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, like last year is a perfect example. Justin
Speaker 4: Rose hit a bad shot and he found that front
Speaker 4: bunker and he didn't make it.
Speaker 1: You know that that was it. You know, if it
Speaker 1: if it's a you know, gettible hole like that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: And he had to hit a.
Speaker 4: Good two good shots. You got to hit two good
Speaker 4: shots on seventeen. I mean read almost the same thing
Speaker 4: almost happened. Like he had a really bad approach shot
Speaker 4: and I mean he got a good break by hitting
Speaker 4: the hole on that like one hundred foot putt, but
Speaker 4: we almost saw another bogie there.
Speaker 2: Could I just say, you were talking about trees here
Speaker 2: for a minute. On Wednesday, I had my camera It's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, ten years old, crappy camera and about
Speaker 2: every I don't know, twenty yards, Like give me that
Speaker 2: camera and you would start taking pictures of nothing but
Speaker 2: a tree because you were pissed off because they were
Speaker 2: they looked too young, and they were obviously too new.
Speaker 2: They just planted them. How long do you think that's
Speaker 2: been here? You just taking pictures. I think people were
Speaker 2: walking by looking at you like you should be in
Speaker 2: a straight jacket hauled off, Like you're zooming in on
Speaker 2: just one specific under a tree, taking pictures of these trees.
Speaker 1: Then you know, one day I might looking at you
Speaker 1: like you were insane.
Speaker 4: Well, they got dead trees out there, they do. They've
Speaker 4: got like dead maple trees and groves of pine trees.
Speaker 1: It's like, what just cut it? Cut it down?
Speaker 2: You know, like I don't know taking zooming in on
Speaker 2: a tree. Everyone else is trying to get these like
Speaker 2: vistas and usual spots down an amen corner. You're just
Speaker 2: like running into these woods and taking close ups of
Speaker 2: a single solitary tree.
Speaker 4: It's like you said on Wednesday, everybody's taking pictures of
Speaker 4: one thing.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take pictures of completely different things. Everybody's zach.
Speaker 2: I just love the looks you're getting as people are like,
Speaker 2: what's that guy doing he's taking a picture.
Speaker 4: Of Yeah, I mean people people probably thought I was
Speaker 4: I was crazy. It's overrated, underrated, Augusta Merch.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm coming out of this car. You know how
Speaker 2: you're not to wear the T shirt the consert, the
Speaker 2: T shirt to the concert, right, You're not supposed to
Speaker 2: wear like the Rolling Stones tour, you know, T shirt
Speaker 2: to the Rolling.
Speaker 1: Stones, especially that tour.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh well, that's yeah, particularly egregious. Why doesn't that
Speaker 2: apply to golf? Like the last thing I'm gonna wear,
Speaker 2: I have some Masters thing. Last thing I'm gonna wear
Speaker 2: at the Masters is the Masters stuff. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: I think it should apply more to golf. It's it's
Speaker 2: like going to, you know, a Colts game or an
Speaker 2: Eagles game and everyone's in their jersey. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just a little bizarre to me. I just it
Speaker 2: was too ubiquitous, and so I'm kind of out on
Speaker 2: Master's March. Again. I'm very biased, having come from a
Speaker 2: week at Augusta National. It's just it's too much. It's
Speaker 2: it's too ubiquitous. It's too I don't know, it's two
Speaker 2: blows a day at this point. And that's kind of
Speaker 2: crazy for me to say, because you can't get it
Speaker 2: anywhere but the merch shop. But I'm kind of I'm
Speaker 2: kind of out on Masters here right now.
Speaker 1: You know what gets me is like the jersey thing.
Speaker 1: It is like people like people that put on their
Speaker 1: jersey to watch a game at home.
Speaker 4: It's like what what, Like, Oh, the Blackhawks are playing,
Speaker 4: let me go get my black Hawks jersey out and
Speaker 4: sit on my couch. Like that's something that's never clicked
Speaker 4: in my head, like you know, or the Bears are playing,
Speaker 4: I'm going to go put my Beers jersey on and
Speaker 4: watch it on my couch.
Speaker 1: Like I don't get it.
Speaker 4: I don't get it at all, Like it's something that
Speaker 4: really actually bugs me, Like nobody's around, but I'm putting
Speaker 4: on this jersey.
Speaker 2: That's a valid point. I think people probably spend money
Speaker 2: on jerseys. It's not a thing you can wear often,
Speaker 2: and so they put it on to sit on their couch.
Speaker 4: Well, you could wear it, you can wear you can
Speaker 4: wear it to the to the Masters, you can wear
Speaker 4: your market.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what the guy was doing. He didn't want
Speaker 1: to wear a Masters gear, so he put on his
Speaker 1: colt's jersey.
Speaker 2: He's sticking out. I mean, I applauded him. This was
Speaker 2: just so bizarre.
Speaker 1: What about fred Ridley? Overrated?
Speaker 2: Underrated I think he's underrated.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, so much of what I kind
Speaker 2: of my framing of him was about twenty thirteen, and
Speaker 2: the portrayals weren't particularly kind, particularly Alan Hipknucks breakdown of
Speaker 2: what happened with Tiger's drop, and it kind of portrayed
Speaker 2: him as kind of a bumbling rules guy. So I think,
Speaker 2: you know, the framing of him wasn't the best coming
Speaker 2: into this, coming into his chairmanship. But I think he's
Speaker 2: super underrated. And it's not just the amateur thing that
Speaker 2: the women's amateur stuff, which makes a ton of sense
Speaker 2: and everyone seems to be on board with. I just
Speaker 2: I thought he was hit all the right tones. He
Speaker 2: seemed kind of engaged on the right things. He seemed so.
Speaker 2: I was watching close circuit TV of the Green Jacket
Speaker 2: ceremony up on the putting Green and Reid kept calling
Speaker 2: people fans like all y'all, and Ridley was right in
Speaker 2: the shot sitting down behind him. He just looked so
Speaker 2: pain He did not look like he wanted to be
Speaker 2: there anymore. He did not look super happy with Reid's speech.
Speaker 2: He was looking up at him just like with this
Speaker 2: like painful grimace on it. On his face, and so
Speaker 2: I thought I found him amusing. That part amusing, But
Speaker 2: I think he's underrated. I thought he hit all the
Speaker 2: right tones and he seems like could be a good
Speaker 2: person to be the next chairman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm very optimistic with the fred Ridley era a.
Speaker 4: You know, the hair is just spectacular, right, But beyond that,
Speaker 4: he asked the best question I've heard post round in
Speaker 4: a in Butler cabin. He asked read about his bouncebacks.
Speaker 4: And I mean, this guy is the last guy to
Speaker 4: win the US Amateur that didn't turn pro.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's exciting to.
Speaker 4: Have a guy that really really gets golf as the chairman,
Speaker 4: you know, like it's not like just some schmuck member,
Speaker 4: like and not saying any AUGUSTA members are schmucks, but
Speaker 4: like we aren't.
Speaker 1: Talking about like your fifteen handicap. That's like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: this is what I think we should do. That's calling
Speaker 1: the shots.
Speaker 4: So you know, you got a guy that was a
Speaker 4: Walker Cup captain, a US am winner, Like, you got
Speaker 4: a guy that really really knows golf. And I'm excited.
Speaker 4: I think I think he's going to do some good stuff.
Speaker 4: And you know, it would be apropos though, for him
Speaker 4: to just disappoint on every level. So that's why I'm
Speaker 4: cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 2: That was the one thing I took away. It's like,
Speaker 2: it's such a change of having a guy with such
Speaker 2: a golf background and as an excellent player now in
Speaker 2: control of so many important things that are just the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, last one, walk up music. Gosh, if
Speaker 4: anybody doesn't know, zer A Classic announced that it would
Speaker 4: have walk up music this year to the first tea.
Speaker 2: I think it's incredibly overrated. It's just a dumb window dressing.
Speaker 2: Like I don't it's it doesn't bother me, like I'm
Speaker 2: not going to be angry that it's happening, but it's
Speaker 2: incredibly overrated. It it resonates more in the content now
Speaker 2: than when you actually get there, and it's like it
Speaker 2: just falls flat every time. No one cares about it.
Speaker 2: They maybe care about it for the first guy for
Speaker 2: five seconds it plays, and then you forget it's even happening.
Speaker 2: There's no content, there's nothing funny, there's nothing interesting, there's
Speaker 2: nothing worthwhile that comes out of it. It's not offensive.
Speaker 2: I'm fire like, I don't think like the game is
Speaker 2: being going to be ruined by it. But it's just
Speaker 2: incredibly overrated. It's like it's just window dressing of like,
Speaker 2: oh we're gonna be young and hip and different and cool,
Speaker 2: and it's it's it. It has no impact on anything,
Speaker 2: and we should stop talking about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with most of your points. I
Speaker 1: think it would.
Speaker 4: It does add a great wrinkle to the fan experience
Speaker 4: for those that get to sit on the first tea
Speaker 4: because like it would be way more interesting sitting there,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, what what is what is Grayson
Speaker 4: Murray's walk up music?
Speaker 1: Gonna be.
Speaker 2: Uh proud to be an American? Lee Greenwood, I would guess.
Speaker 2: I mean that course, that course is not interesting at all.
Speaker 4: I think it gets a bad rap just because it's
Speaker 4: it always rains in New Orleans, like it's always soft.
Speaker 4: It's like it's just I mean, it's like the tour
Speaker 4: going to Memphis and in this in August, you know,
Speaker 4: with a WGC, like you're just setting them up for failure,
Speaker 4: Like it is gonna be a miserable event. No media
Speaker 4: wants to go to Memphis in the summer, like like
Speaker 4: it like nobody wants to go there in the summer.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be hot, it's gonna rain, It's gonna rain
Speaker 4: a lot, like it's gonna be thunderstorms all the time.
Speaker 4: Like you're just setting it up for failure. And I
Speaker 4: know FedEx is the guy, the people that really like
Speaker 4: write the checks for the tour, so I get why
Speaker 4: it's there, But like, you can't tell me that the
Speaker 4: event in Memphis is gonna do more for FedEx's sponsorship
Speaker 4: than if they rotated around to like fifteen great golf
Speaker 4: courses in the country, Like that would do so much
Speaker 4: more for FedEx because it would have so much more
Speaker 4: fan interest and greater interest across the world than playing
Speaker 4: an event at a garbage golf course in Memphis in August.
Speaker 2: People in Northeast Ohio not happy. Oh I've heard about
Speaker 2: a few last few weeks. They're not happy. Yea, But
Speaker 2: I hope people have their fire stone takes and I
Speaker 2: don't disagree with them. But nic back community event.
Speaker 4: All right, man, Well we will talk to you soon.
Speaker 4: And uh another masters in the books. I was a
Speaker 4: little depressed on Sunday night, realizing that everything's downhill from here.
Speaker 2: We're gonna we'll get out to Shinnecock, right, I mean
Speaker 2: we might might take a tour around there in June
Speaker 2: and got the players coming up.
Speaker 1: So Shenny Jenny should be fun. That'll be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun.
Speaker 2: We've got a good major year coming up. We're just
Speaker 2: strapping in. It'll be fun.
Speaker 1: It's a three major year.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's true. That's true. So I can't wait.
Speaker 2: I can't wait for the knives to come out on Bellery.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that though. That'll be fun.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's another thing. That's a that's another example, like Saint
Speaker 4: Louis in August is the worst place in the world.
Speaker 1: Alright, I'll talk to you soon, all right, so Andy,
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