1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason MacIntyre, Straight Fire for Tuesday, 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: February twenty seventh. I totally forgot it's a leap year 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: until I looked at the calendar because there's a billion 6 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: things to do this week. It is almost the leap 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: year day. I don't know anybody born on the leap 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: Yar Day, but I guess you get what like an 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: extra like your celebration of the birthday only every four years. Technically, 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how leapyers work with birthdays. 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody born on the leap your Day. 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: Kind of a slow night in sports, like some decent 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: stuff happening, But what happened before last night, I think 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: is going to be a massive story today. And I 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: get it. The NFL's over, and yes, the combine starts 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: this week and things will start to ramp up and 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: we'll get a juicy rumors coming out of Indy. That's 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: gonna happen. But I do believe as the NBA heats up, 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: we got like twenty three, twenty four games left in 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: the season, you know we're gonna start to see some 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: some players emerge as the big My dad uses this 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: very big ticket items, the big ticket names for this summer. Obviously, 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Donothan Mitchell will be up there. We're gonna monitor what 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: happens with the Cavs in the playoffs. I think Trey 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: Young's gonna be up there. And I talked about this 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: on the Herd Monday, because he's out now for four 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: weeks probably the rest of the season. What if the 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: Hawks get hot without him and they're like, I can 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: see this team going forward without Trey Young, Let's move him. Okay, 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: but one player could top both of those and his 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: name is Lebron James. And why do I say that, Jason, 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: Come on, Lebron's thirty nine, he's turning forty what at 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: the in December? Because he shares her birthday with Tiger Woods. Well, 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: something went down on Monday with Lebron, and I'm still 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: trying to decipher for what it was. I spent I 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 2: don't want to say hours because I sound like a loser, 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: but I spend a lot of time thinking like, why 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: did this come out now? So I'll start with this. 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: On Monday, ESPN decided to release a twenty twenty five 40 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five NBA Mont Draft, and my first thought was, 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: let me look at the calendar. Oh, it's twenty twenty four. 42 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: What the hell is this about? Okay, sixteen months in advance. 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: They don't usually do this, right, The focus should be 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: on twenty twenty four, who's gonna enter, who's not? High 45 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: school kids, reclassification, blah blah blah. You do the next 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: year after the draft happens. So I can see twenty 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: twenty five being a topic the day after the twenty 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: twenty four draft in June. Why did it trump? What 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: was interesting? Well, guess who was in the twenty twenty 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: five Mont Draft. Bronnie James. Well, wait, does that mean 51 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: he's not in the twenty twenty four Mont Draft. So 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: it was kind of not so spoken, and it's like, oh, so, 53 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: what does that mean Lebron's supposed son supposed to come out? 54 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he's not twenty twenty five. And then Lebron, 55 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: you know, as this game steam on the internet, you know, wait, 56 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: Bronny coming out in twenty five, not twenty four. Huh, 57 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: Lebron the King King James jumps on social media and 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: gets involved in. You guys know, I'm not a conspiracy 59 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: theorist like Joe Rogan Aaron Rodgers. I'm not one of 60 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: those Guys's who's the guy running for president, the Kennedy guy. 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm spacing on his name, but I'm not on that level. 62 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: I do enjoy talking about them. They're fun, but like, 63 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get all in the weeds in conspiracy theories. 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: But once the mock draft got out there, Lebron tweets 65 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: and of course it instantly goes viral. Can y'all please 66 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: just let the kid be a kid and enjoy college basketball. 67 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: The work and the results will ultimately do to talking 68 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: no matter what he decides to do. If y'all don't know, 69 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: he doesn't care what a mock draft says. He just 70 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: works or not given. And then he followed that up 71 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: with and to all the other kids out there striving 72 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: to be great, just keep your head down, blinders on, 73 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: and keep grinding. These mock drafts doesn't matter one bit, 74 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: I promise you. Only the work matters. Let's talk real 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: basketball people. Almost like echoing JJ Reddick from last week, listen, 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: I like Lebron a lot. You guys know that I'm 77 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: a fan. I think he's the greatest player in the 78 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: history of the sport. I know you're angry at that. 79 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: It almost seems too coincidental, Robin. I'm not putting on 80 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: my conspiracy theory hat, but it just seems odd that 81 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: ESPN would drop a mock for twenty twenty five with 82 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Lebron James Son and it when everything we had heard 83 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: up to this point was Lebron Soun's coming out, and 84 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: then Lebron responds in oh, by the way, did you 85 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: see what Brian Windhorse said over the weekend? And it 86 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: got aggregated on Monday. Lebron James would like to spend 87 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: the rest of his time in Los Angeles, and he's 88 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: angling to sign a multi year deal with the team. 89 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: I think Lebron is angling to sign a multi year 90 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: deal in the offseason with the Lakers that will be 91 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: nine figures bigger than his deal is now. Not whether 92 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: or not he's able to finish the deal, whether or 93 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: not the Lakers want to give him a three year 94 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: contract to pay him sixty mil when he's forty two, 95 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: that's a different discussion. So let's Rob, I know you, 96 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: you big Laker guy. Rob has his funny thing future Laker. Rob. 97 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: Let's just let's connect the dots. ESPN mock draft that 98 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: kind of surprises everybody on twenty twenty five with Lebron's 99 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: son in it. That's the real surprise that Lebron's son. 100 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: Every other thing else was true. John twenty four, monk Winhorse, 101 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: Lebron angling to stay with the Lakers, three year deal, 102 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 2: big big, big money, Lebron jumping on social media. Whatever 103 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: he decides to do. Let's just let him play basketball again. 104 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: I like Lebron. This is on Rob. It almost seems like, 105 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, Bronni had the heart issue and got a 106 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: late start obviously, but his minutes have been ratcheting up 107 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: the production. You know, it's not been there. He's a freshman. Okay, 108 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: it should not surprise anybody that he's kind of struggling. 109 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: But I guess what is shocking Rob is thirty seven 110 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: percent shooting, twenty seven percent on threes, sixty two percent 111 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: free throws. I mean, we've seen guys go to the 112 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: league with modest stats. You can't be a shooting guard 113 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: and deliver like this and expect to be like a 114 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: high pick or even a draft pick. Lebron James's son 115 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: has three double digit scoring games in his in his 116 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: young career. That's it. And I again, he was a 117 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: high prospect, highly rated prospect, and a lot of that 118 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: had to do with, you know, his dad and who 119 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: he is. I'm just gonna say I like Bronnie a lot. 120 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure will he get in the league. Probably, You're 121 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: probably getting the league. I only I don't know if 122 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: he's gonna be a you know, all star. I don't 123 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: know if he's gonna be a starter. Uh, probably a 124 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: rotation player. Listen, it's hard to make the NBA on 125 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: his athleticism alone. He's gonna be in the discussion, but 126 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, Rob, it's starting to smell like Lebron 127 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: is laying the groundwork to cushion everybody when his son 128 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: decides I'm staying at USC. Now here's the other kicker 129 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: that I have. I don't know if I've touched on 130 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: it with you, Rob privately or on the pod, but 131 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of not great things about the 132 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: USC program right now. In Andy Enfield, they are a 133 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: total trade wreck. They did beat UCLA over the weekend, 134 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: which was nice, but it sounds like the Enfield Bronni thing. 135 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: It's not like Enfield was out there beating. We gotta 136 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: get Bronnie. We gotta get Bronnie. I think it was 137 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: more of Andy. Here's Lebron's son, take him enjoy And 138 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if we're gonna see like a mass exodus. 139 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: And maybe the program is kind of reshaped next year, 140 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: perhaps with Bronnie's son as the cent with Lebron's son 141 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: Bronnie as the centerpiece. I I don't know. I just 142 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: I don't feel great about this whole situation for Lebron 143 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: Rob I don't. And remember the Lakers are are mired 144 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: in ninth and it's like Lebron spending time as most 145 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: dads would be worried about your son and how he's doing. 146 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: And I just the vibes are not great around all 147 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 2: of this. Rub or maybe I'm overreacting. Get in on 148 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: the action with Draftking sports Book, an official sports betting 149 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: partner or the NBA. New Customers who deposit five dollars 150 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: or more can get a no sweat bet up to 151 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: one thousand dollars back in a bonus bet. 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He's been 175 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: on Sports Illustrated, ESPN features, Fox Sports features, you name it, 176 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: and the reality is. And we've talked about this on 177 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: the pod before. As an NBA prospect, from what we've 178 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: seen from then until now, he doesn't profile as a 179 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: number one pick, as a lottery pick, probably even not 180 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: even as a first round pick. His profile right now 181 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: is similar to a guy like Alex Caruso. He's a bigger, 182 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: while an undersized two guard, but he's pretty big for 183 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: a point guard. He's a good defender, he's strong, he's athletic. 184 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: If his jump shop ever comes around, he's a good 185 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: ball mover. He can be a rotational player in the NBA, absolutely, 186 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: one thousand percent. Again, because he's so young, because he 187 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: doesn't play too much because of the health issues, because 188 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: their team's not very good. It feels disingenuous to even 189 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: talk about him in the NBA right now. Having said 190 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: all that, though, part of this falls on the shoulders 191 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: of Lebron James. Just last month, after a game against Memphis, 192 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: Lebron is overheard in the Lakers locker room saying that quote, 193 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: Bronny could play for us right now. 194 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 2: Easy easy. Flash forward a. 195 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: Month and now he's saying, we just gonna let him 196 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: enjoy college basketball. Well, Bro, it's kind of your fault, 197 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: like you're the one who's saying this stuff too. So 198 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: that's number one, Number two, And this is where the 199 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory comes in. I believe that Lebron knows deep down, 200 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: as much as he's wanted to use whatever power and 201 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: influence he has to get Brony to the NBA as 202 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: early as next season, I think even he understands that 203 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: his son is just not ready, and that's part of 204 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: where this tweet comes in, and so on and so forth. 205 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: But because Lebron is who he is, and because he 206 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: wheelds this power over the Lakers, specifically, he's been dangling 207 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: that free agent opt out carrot in front of them 208 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: basically since the beginning of the season. Right like he said, 209 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, I want to stay with the Lakers, but 210 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to committee. I haven't been our decision yet. 211 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see what my player opt out 212 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: does this offseason. We'll cross that bridge when we get 213 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: to it, and now coincidentally, Brian Winnhorsho's one of the 214 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: most respected NBA reporters out there, says, yeah, well, Lebron 215 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: wants to stay with the Lakers three years, one hundred 216 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: and fifty hundred sixty million dollars, whatever it takes, because 217 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: he'd likes to stay in Los Angeles. So what you're 218 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: telling me, then, if it were to really pull back 219 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: the layers of the onion is Lebron was willing to 220 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: let his free agency come up so that he could 221 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: join up wherever Brony was and use it to that disadvantage. 222 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: But now that he realizes that bron He's not an 223 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: NBA prospect, well, I might as well just stay with 224 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: the Lakers. I'm comfortable in Los Angeles. My son goes 225 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: as here. I like being around Anthony Davis. I like 226 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: that Clutch Sports has a stranglehold over the front office 227 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: where they let me dictate like eighty percent of the 228 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: moves that we do, so I might as well stay 229 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: here and get paid like it's okay, Well that might 230 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: be on savory, but I get it. 231 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: That leads to the next question. If you're the Lakers, 232 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: let's say, what do you want to say Lakers. Let's 233 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: say they advance out of the play in. No, let's 234 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: go nuclear the Lakers losing the play into the Warriors 235 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: and are eliminated. Okay, are you paying Lebron sixty million 236 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: a year at thirty nine? Let's just say fifty five? 237 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: Lebron has them over a beil Rob. They have their choices, 238 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: are hey keep Lebron? And I don't know, you know, 239 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 2: I don't want to say they've hovered around five hundred 240 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: during the Lebron ad era, but they kind of sort 241 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: of have. And you got the n season tournament, Horay, 242 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: got to the conference finals, hoaray, you got the Bubble title, Horay? Awesome. 243 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: But when you look at like, what have you done 244 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: for me lately? I don't know, are you saying Lebron, Hey, 245 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: we're not paying you fifty five mili? They give us, 246 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: you know, give us a hometown discount. There's Lebron bite 247 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: on that. I would guess. No, are we setting up Rob? 248 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: Is a tumultuous summer. If now this is just if 249 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: they lose the play, right, and it's like, hey, Lebron 250 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: was healthy, is he gonna be healthy again next year? 251 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: When he's forty and uh, you lost him the play 252 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: in and we're paying a fifty five mil I don't know, Rob, 253 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: Is that something you'd be okay with? Yes? 254 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: And I say that with some hesitation, because on one hand, 255 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: do you feel great about paying a forty tw year 256 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: old sixty million dollars? Absolutely not. But when you consider 257 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: what some other NBA players are getting, Like I believe 258 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: the demonis Sebonus, who was a fine NBA player, borderline 259 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: All Star every year, I think his contract is going 260 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: to be in the fifties, you know, coming up soon 261 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: when the prime though right right, but right now, if 262 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: I had to choose between, and again this is factoring 263 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: in both on court and off court influence, would I 264 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: rather pay Lebron James sixty million or saboneus Fi fifty million? 265 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm taking Lebron every time, because not only is he 266 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: good for business, he's still a very good NBA player, 267 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: even in his advanced age. 268 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: So you think this is tough. Do you think two 269 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: years from now Lebron is still a top twenty five 270 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: player in the league. 271 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: Two years he'll put I think he'll put up top 272 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: twenty five player statistics on a winning team, or just 273 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, I can't go that far. It depends on 274 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: who they get this offseason. I know you will talk 275 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: about that here in a second. But the other thing, 276 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: and maybe we'll have to pleep it on the podcast. 277 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: The other thing that Lebron has going in his favor 278 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: is that the Lakers' front office are stars. They will 279 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: do whatever they have to do to get stars in 280 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: the building, whether the team is good or not. That's why, 281 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: even going back to the post Kobe pow era, they 282 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: were linked to Carmelo Anthony they ended up. They were 283 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: linked to Chris Paul, they were linked to Dwight Howard. 284 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: They know getting Dwight Howard, but any free agent or 285 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: any guy who was deemed to be a superstar, the 286 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Lakers like, we are gonna clear our decks. We're gonna 287 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: have no other players the roster. It's gonna be Kobe 288 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: and X player and watch what happens. And that ultimately 289 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: has worked out for them in some cases like Shack, 290 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: It's backfight in a big way. In other cases like 291 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. So but the Lakers, that's who they are, 292 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: that's what they do. They do whatever they got to 293 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: do to get stars, to keep stars. To keep them happy, 294 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: even if it's at the detriment of them long term. 295 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: To go back to one thing you had said, you 296 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: mentioned Alex Caruso is like a camp for Brownie, which 297 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: isn't the worst in the world. I'm sure some people 298 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,479 Speaker 2: hear that are like, get the hell out of here, FYI. 299 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: Alex Caruso's had a four year, thirty six million dollars 300 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: deal with the Bulls. Okay, as a role player, that's 301 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: good money. I know that sounds like peanuts. Nine million 302 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: dollars a year to play basketball when you know you 303 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: weren't like a highly touted pick or player or anything. 304 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: That's really good for Alex Ruso, and I think I don't. 305 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: I don't hate your comp of Caruso and Brownie. However, 306 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: if I'm the Lakers and they flame out in the plan, 307 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: I've seen this show before Rob with Kobe, it ended poorly. 308 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: They were in the wilderness struggling because they wanted to 309 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: keep Kobe happy. Now, I'm sure some people will point 310 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 2: and say, listen, that was a very lucrative error for 311 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: the Lakers, and who cares. We got out of it 312 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: and we made money. Who cares if we were losing 313 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: we still were making money. I don't have the financials 314 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: on the Lakers. I'm sure you could dig them up, 315 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: and they were making they were profitable during Kobe's years. 316 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: But then it leads to, Okay, well, how do we 317 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: reshape things around Lebron and ad if we're paying Lebron 318 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: fifty five now the NFL salary cap just spite thirty mili, 319 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen with the NBA salary cap if it 320 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: goes up? I think you can just start wondering, do 321 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: you want Donovan Mitchell or do you want Trey Young? Now, 322 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: if Donovan Mitchell and the Calves get to the conference finals, 323 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: I does he come off the table. I don't know. 324 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell and the Calves flame out in the first round, 325 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: I think he's probably on his way out the door. 326 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: And then there's Trey Young. And I asked cow Herd 327 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: point Blake, like, listen, let's say the Hawks thrive and 328 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: they get up to I don't know, let's just hypothetical, 329 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: the seventh seed in the East, and Quinn Snyder says, 330 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: you know what if we could shape this team around 331 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: de Jeana Murray, a bunch of role players, and we 332 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: bring in guys like we're better without Trey Young. Let's 333 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: move Trey Young. Would you rather Rob? If you are 334 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: the Lakers, you going after trigger Tray Young? Who's did 335 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: get to the conference finals? I think that was the postseason. 336 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: He took down the next at MSG and was a 337 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: showman and took down embiad and ended up I think 338 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: they got smashed by the Bucks in the conference. I 339 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: think it was the Bucks. Or would you rather have 340 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell who has a much richer score happy postseason career. However, 341 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 2: he never could get over the hump and ultimately had 342 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: some I don't want to say bad postseason losses, but 343 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: like Jalen Brunson went to totoe with him twice, and I 344 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 2: thought Brunson was a better player. There was the playoff 345 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: series and maybe the bubble against the Clippers. Mitchell's has 346 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: had some awesome highs. Took down OKC with I think 347 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: Paul George and Russell Westbrook by himself. That was by himself. 348 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: I like Donovan Mitchell. I think it's pretty clear I 349 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: would take Donovan Mitchell in a heartbeat over Trey Young. 350 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: And I'm a big Tray Young guy. Who do you 351 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: go rob. 352 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: One thousand percent Donovan Mitchell. And it's because we've seen 353 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: enough evidence that when Donovan Mitchell is the featured guy 354 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: Utah now at Cleveland, you can win at a reasonably 355 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: high clip. You might not be a championship contender like 356 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: those Utah team that ended up being a little fugaezy, 357 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: but they were very good right And unfortunately for Trey 358 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: Young because he is such a sieve defensively, because his 359 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: style of play can be a little bit, you know, 360 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: tough for teammates. That's been well reported that someone's some 361 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: of his teammates do not enjoy his style of play. 362 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: Very bald, dominant, chucks up a lot of bad shots, 363 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: he gets a lot of assists, but it's because he 364 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: has the ball so much that some guys just don't 365 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: like that style. Very similar to Luka Doncis. Some guys 366 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: didn't like playing with Luca, even though he was much 367 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: better than Trey Young. Just that style doesn't work for everybody, 368 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: and Trey Young so far has only really had one 369 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: season of success in Atlanta. So if I had to 370 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: choose one, and all things being equal, I'm absolutely gonna 371 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: choose Donovan Mitchell. Problem though, is Trey Young is represented 372 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: by Clutch Sports. Yes, So if you were to tell 373 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: me which one is more likely, I'd give the odds 374 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: probably like six to one that Trey Young is more likely. 375 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: And what's interesting is, you know, Don Mitchel really really 376 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: good player. Trey Young is a stretch the floor. Steph Curry, 377 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 2: you got a gard him at twenty seven feet. When 378 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: you do that, you create ridiculous space for ad and 379 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: Lebron to thrive. Trey Young just totally shifts the geometry 380 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: of the floor, the angles, everything and gives you I'm 381 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: not I'm loath to call him Steph Curry light Rob, 382 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: but you gotta guard at the logo and Trey Young 383 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: you pretty much have to guard out there too. Also, 384 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: it's not a you're not the worst thing in the 385 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: world if you're a horrible defender and you have Anthony 386 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: Davis on the back line. Now, I will say I 387 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: put this on Twitter yesterday and Rob, a lot of 388 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: Spurs fans seem to think that Trey Young is a 389 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: great fit alongside Wemby, and that to me is super spicy. Uh. 390 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: Trey Young stretching the floor, Trey Young throwing lobs to Wemby. 391 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: I I maybe on Trey Young's undervalued by US. I 392 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: don't know, Rob, are we missing something? 393 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: No, I mean, he's a very good player, it's just 394 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: he's He's definitely not a number one and for what 395 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: certain teams would need him, like Atlanta, they need him 396 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: to be a number one, and that's not where he's at. 397 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: If you were to get him with the Lakers, with 398 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: the Ad and Lebron and he can flourish absolutely, if 399 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: you can get him with wem Bnyama, where a guy 400 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: who is specifically created, so to speak, to cover up 401 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: all of his deficiencies because he defends at a high level. 402 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: He's a great lob threat, even though he doesn't do 403 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: that too much in San Antonio because they have no 404 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: point guards to speak of. But he'd be a great 405 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: fit there. The issue, though, is last I recall, and 406 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: maybe things have changed since then, things did not end 407 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: well for Dejonte Murray, a Clutch Sports client in San Antonio. 408 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: You recall he did interviews with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson, 409 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, explaining some of the issues he had playing 410 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: under Popovich. So if Clutch Sports is as strong as 411 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: we're led to believe, I have a hard time imagining 412 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: that Rich Paul and Trey Young would sign up for 413 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: a trade to the Spurs if the Lakers are sitting 414 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: out there. 415 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: That's next level stuff. For those who liked the player 416 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: efficiency rating stat Jonavan Mitchell currently ninth in the NBA 417 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: player Efficiency Rating, ahead of Kawhi Leonard, ahead of Zion, 418 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: ahead of Lebron, And you got to scroll down the 419 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: list to find Trey Young at thirty nine. And Trey 420 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: Young's apparently having an incredible season. But here's the thing, Rob, 421 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: if you even go back last year for whatever reason, well, 422 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure we can guess what the 423 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: reasons are. Donovan Mitchell nineteenth last year in player efficiency Rating, 424 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: and you know Trey Young a little further down at 425 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 2: twenty four. Now you could argue, well, Donovan Mitchell has 426 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: a better team, He's got a playoff team. I get that. 427 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: But as you said, Young is not the most efficient guy. 428 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: You know, he's not gonna kill you in the mid range. 429 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: He is kind of a pound of dribble. I'm gonna 430 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: get my shots. I like Young a lot, but I 431 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: would go Mitchell. It's a little scary though. The clutch 432 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 2: sports aspect Rob And I don't know, do you like 433 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: if you're Atlanta and you're reshaping the roster around to 434 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: Janta Murray, does that mean you're gonna take clutch clients 435 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: from the Lakers like you're not taking I don't think 436 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: you're taking d'andelo Russell, are you? Ah No? 437 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what until Lebron gets his new 438 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: franchise in Vegas, which is going to happen like there's 439 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: kind of a back door wink wink, now nudge the 440 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: deal with Adam Silver that when the expansion team comes 441 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: to Vegas, Lebron is going to be the guy who 442 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: gets the first DIBs to buy it as the majority owner. 443 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: Until that happens, I believe the Lakers are gonna get 444 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: the right of first refusal for any big name clutch 445 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: sports client that it comes available. I just think that 446 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: that's the way things are gonna work, that Rich Paul 447 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: and Lebron are gonna gear their guys to La not 448 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: only to play alongside him and benefit him, but because 449 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: being with the Lakers comes with so many benefits that 450 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: just doesn't exist in most other NBA franchises. 451 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: Interesting, So when when is this Vegas franchise supposed to happen. 452 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: Oh so what Let's say Lebron plays another two three years. 453 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: I'd say by year five, we have a new team 454 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: in Seattle, new team in Vegas. 455 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: Lebron is the majority owner in Vegas transitions. Okay, if 456 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: you're Tree Young and you're the third guy, is that 457 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: better than like, say, Zach Levine is the third guy? 458 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm being honest. I know people aren't a high on 459 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 2: Levin design. 460 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: You love Zach Levine, man? 461 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen, I know he's a passive defender, 462 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 2: but he's not as bad of a Trey defender's Tray Young. 463 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: And Zach Levine's a very good shooter. I mean, what 464 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: are you getting with Tray Young that you're not with 465 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: Zach Levine? The distribution? I mean, I guess with Levine, 466 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: if Lebron and Ad are healthy, I think Levine's an 467 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: awesome fit. But if Lebron goes down for twenty games 468 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 2: and now Zach Levine's running the show, and then, you know, 469 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: versus Trey Young, I'd rather have Trey Young run the 470 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: show for twenty games, right then? 471 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? And then the other thing, and the biggest thing, 472 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: I think the biggest red flag for Levine is the 473 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: injury history. Like he's out right now, he's got bad knees. 474 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: I know he's a high flying act, but he's got 475 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: bad knees. And Trey Young for all of his deficiencies 476 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: so far, you know, currently notwithstand. He's got that hand 477 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: injury that he's gonna be out for four weeks, but 478 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: he's been mostly durable in the NBA for being such 479 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: a small guy. 480 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: We could wrap up with this. Trey Young was the 481 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: number one guy in high school when he was in Oklahoma, 482 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: and I mean number one by a mile. He was 483 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: the number one guy at Oklahoma when he played for 484 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: one season, and I mean a mile. He's never been 485 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: in a role where he's the number three guy. And 486 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: even though Lebron will be forty raw, Rob, I don't 487 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: want to hear. Oh, well, Trey Young will be the 488 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: number two and that's not gonna be the key, right, 489 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: Lebron's not taking a back seat. So how's Tree Young 490 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: gonna handle being the third guy, the third option? 491 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think he would be the third option. 492 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: I think any Davis would be the third option. 493 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 2: Oh stop, you're gonna turn him into Chris Boston. 494 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: No, and he's the best player I believe currently of 495 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: those three guys even now, not even the saying of 496 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: their teammates, but his style of play. He focuses so 497 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: much on defense, and even this current Lakers team has 498 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: an issue where they'll go long stretches where it's like 499 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: Reeves will get three shots in a row, Russell will 500 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: take a couple, Prince will take a couple Lebron's, and 501 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: it's like they totally forget they got a seven foot 502 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: guy in the middle shooting sixty five percent from the field, 503 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: they averaging twenty five to twelve, and they don't even 504 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: get him the ball for long stretches. So you'll see 505 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis in that sit a situation where he could 506 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: very well lead the team in scoring but not be 507 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: the featured offensive player. If that makes sense. 508 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I promise we won't just do podcasts about Lebron 509 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: every single day. 510 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: I can't make that promise. 511 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: There are The problem is, Rob there are so many 512 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: juicy storylines around this Brony stuff, around this future Lakers deal, 513 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: around Trey Young, around on It's just it makes sense. 514 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I know we should talk more about OKC 515 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: in Minnesota. Maybe Rob Can, we'll get a guest on 516 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: to talk about those guys. But for now that I 517 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: just I'm fascinated by this lebron thing. All right, that's 518 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: it for today or back tomorrow. Talk to you then,