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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler. Welcome to Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Zach Wheeler.

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Speaker 3: Very fitting to have you introduced the Phillies Show here

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Speaker 3: on Friday, June nineteenth, because we're going to talk a

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Speaker 3: little starting pitching. Looking forward to seeing Zach pitch Sunday night,

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Speaker 3: Father's Day Night against his old team, the New York Mets.

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Speaker 3: But as we get started, I'm Jim Salisbury joined by

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Speaker 3: Ruben Tomorrow. Todd's a lucky remains on vacation. We're going

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Speaker 3: to try to survive one more episode without him. But Ruben,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to talk starting pitching. Out of the gate.

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Speaker 3: Phillies lose to the New York Mets on Thursday night six' four.

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Speaker 3: Bullpen let's it get. Away we'll get into, that you,

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Speaker 3: know BUT i want to talk starting. Pitching they've only

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Speaker 3: gotten seven innings from their two starters the last two,

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Speaker 3: games both of them been loss is that's going to

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Speaker 3: put a tax on your. Bullpen but the big news

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Speaker 3: in relation to starting. Pitching On, Wednesday Andrew painter only

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Speaker 3: last two, winnings gives up six.

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Speaker 2: Runs six, hits two home runs to The Miami.

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Speaker 3: Marlins that evening is optioned To TRIPLE a for more

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Speaker 3: time in the minors to work on some. Things era

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Speaker 3: is what over. SEVEN i don't think any of us were.

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Speaker 3: Surprised what was your kind of reaction to the.

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Speaker 1: MOVE i knew it was going to happen soon if

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Speaker 1: he didn't turn things. Around it was pretty obvious that

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Speaker 1: mechanically he was not able to spot his. Fastball he's

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Speaker 1: not able to get fastballs past. ANYONE i, MEAN i

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Speaker 1: think the league was hitting over four hundred on his,

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Speaker 1: fastball four seemer in. Particular you, know he's a guy

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Speaker 1: who used to have a an elite fastball WHEN i say,

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Speaker 1: elite and had great movement and had a great life

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Speaker 1: prior to his and it was probably a one pitch

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Speaker 1: he always. Had he could always spin the baseball, well

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Speaker 1: throw a good breaking ball on a, slider but he

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Speaker 1: just was not able to command the fastball and really

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to really create the kind of life on

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Speaker 1: the fastball since he has had That Tommy john. Surgery

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Speaker 1: and in, fact if you look at some of the

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Speaker 1: numbers that he put together In TRIPLE a last, year

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Speaker 1: the big thing was that he got through the season,

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Speaker 1: healthy but he wasn't super effective with a lot of his.

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Speaker 1: STUFF i, mean he had over five E. R and

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Speaker 1: so this is a guy that this is a guy

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Speaker 1: that really hasn't pitched all that well since The Tommy

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Speaker 1: John i'm not sure if it's. Mechanical i'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if it's emotional and. Mental of, course when you're trying

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Speaker 1: to develop a pitcher at the major league level with

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Speaker 1: a guy who has this kind of pedigree and you

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Speaker 1: don't get, results it wears on. You and this kid's

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Speaker 1: got great. MAKEUP i love everything about out the. Guy

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Speaker 1: he's a great. Athlete but it's time for him to get.

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Speaker 1: Reset and that's exactly What dombrowski. Said it's time for

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Speaker 1: him to go, down get his mechanics, together get his extension,

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Speaker 1: together do the things that are necessary to get him

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Speaker 1: close to where he was prior to especially this basketball

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Speaker 1: prior to his injury and his subsequent. Surgery if this

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Speaker 1: is a kid that's too important to this organization not

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Speaker 1: to get him back, TOGETHER i will say, this here's

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Speaker 1: my take on. It THOUGH i know that the biggest

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Speaker 1: concern was to get him back and healthy through the

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Speaker 1: season last. Year why was this guy not worked? On

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Speaker 1: why were these, MECHANICS i mean they probably saw that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't getting the great results on the fastball during

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Speaker 1: the course of The TRIPLE a, season and they're not

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Speaker 1: great hitters In TRIPLE a, either and he was getting

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Speaker 1: knocked around a little. Bit why was not addressed last?

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Speaker 1: Year maybe it was because all they cared about was

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Speaker 1: his overall. Health BUT i, mean that's a whole development

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Speaker 1: year that he should have been pitching or developing and

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Speaker 1: getting his fastball command to the point where he was

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Speaker 1: where he would be able to defend himself a little

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Speaker 1: bit better in the following, year meaning this. Year and

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Speaker 1: SO i WAS i was concerned about that twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: hindsight but that's a whole development year where he probably

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Speaker 1: could have been working on some of these mechanical flaws

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Speaker 1: then because he was not super effective with his stuff

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Speaker 1: overall last. Year just the thought and, listen now they're

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Speaker 1: going to Play now they're gonna have to play catch.

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Speaker 1: Up what's your thought on, That.

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Speaker 3: Jim, WELL i, mean you're, right this has been going

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Speaker 3: on for over a season, now it's a season and a.

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Speaker 3: Half last, Year TRIPLE a twenty two who starts the

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Speaker 3: ra over five gave up almost ten hits per nine,

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Speaker 3: innings walked almost four batters per nine, innings so a

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Speaker 3: lot of base. Runners dombrosk talked To Caleb cotham And

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Speaker 3: Dave dobrowski And Don mattingly On, thursday the day after the.

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Speaker 3: Demotion they all indicated that this stuff has been worked

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Speaker 3: on in bullpen sessions, recently and this is stuff we.

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Speaker 3: Noticed we talked about this a month. Ago how from

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Speaker 3: the centerfield camera you could you could see that he

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Speaker 3: wasn't really getting off that rubber and using that six

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Speaker 3: foot seven frame and driving toward home, plate occasionally spinning

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Speaker 3: off a little. Bit you could see it from the centerfield.

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Speaker 3: CAMERA i know you AND i talked about, it but

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Speaker 3: They dombroski did say they've been working on it in

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Speaker 3: bullpens and they see some some. Results the stuff in

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Speaker 3: the location is better when he's driving more toward home,

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Speaker 3: plate but it just Hasn't he hasn't been able to

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Speaker 3: kind of make the adjustment. Consistently so that's what they're

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Speaker 3: gonna work. On dombrowski talked about direction to the. PLATE

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Speaker 3: i Asked Caleb coffam in simple, terms Was andrew not

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Speaker 3: getting enough out of his six foot seven inch. Frame

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Speaker 3: he acknowledged, that, yes they don't expect them to Be Jacob,

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Speaker 3: miserowski but they would like to see more direction to the.

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Speaker 3: Plate and they think that's gonna help the. Finish they

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Speaker 3: think that's gonna help the. Command you can call it

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Speaker 3: whatever you. Want extension in this day and, age they

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Speaker 3: can measure. Everything he doesn't get a ton of extension

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Speaker 3: out of that big, frame doesn't use it to its full.

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Speaker 3: Potential they want him to stay within His he's Not.

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Speaker 3: Misowski they want him to stay within himself and do

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Speaker 3: the things he does, well but just get a little

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Speaker 3: more maybe drive toward home. Plate so that's something they're

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Speaker 3: gonna work. ON i just think it's good to get

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Speaker 3: him out of here BECAUSE i think a lot of

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Speaker 3: things was weighing on his. MIND i, mean after that

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Speaker 3: two starts to go In, milwaukee he had a really

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Speaker 3: of sat in front of his locker for like fifteen

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Speaker 3: minutes and just stared blankly into his. Locker you could

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Speaker 3: tell it's the twenty three year old. Kid he wants

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Speaker 3: to be. Good he wants his dreams to come. Through

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Speaker 3: he wants to come through for the other twenty five

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Speaker 3: guys in that. Clubhouse that's the biggest, letdown that's the

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Speaker 3: biggest drain on your, psyche is that you're letting your mates.

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Speaker 3: Down they're out there busting it for, you and you're

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Speaker 3: not doing it for. Him so you could see the

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Speaker 3: frustration building in, Him SO i think and wearing on.

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Speaker 3: HIM i think it's good to get him out of

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Speaker 2: Situation but we talk about this all the.

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Speaker 3: Time we've been talking about this since almost day one

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Speaker 3: of the podcast that you, know think, Long Think. Wrong

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Speaker 3: we talk about it with hitters all the.

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Speaker 2: Time that to me.

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Speaker 3: Is one of THE i never really liked the expression swing.

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Speaker 3: DECISION i understand, it and it's, fine but to, me

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Speaker 2: Decision it should be a. Reaction shouldn't be that much.

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Speaker 3: Thinking and you, KNOW i just Think Andrew, painter if

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Speaker 3: you kind of push that, forward that thought forward into,

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Speaker 3: PITCHING i think he was a lot was in that

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Speaker 3: to come off the. Fingertips AND i go back to

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Speaker 3: a Quote Don maddingly had In milwaukee after his last

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Speaker 3: start And mattingly, said he actually did see some progress

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Speaker 3: that the kid was attacking the zone a little bit,

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Speaker 3: more and that's what he wanted him to. Do attack the. Zone,

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Speaker 3: quote not worry about what the pitch looks, like not

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Speaker 3: me that, QUOTE i thought was very. Telling do you

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Speaker 1: That, YEAH i mean anytime, listen we talk about the

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Speaker 1: mental side of the game all the time and how

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Speaker 1: important it is and how difficult it is in the

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Speaker 1: game of. Baseball there's so, many so much negativity he

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Speaker 1: and you have to be able to deal with that.

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Speaker 1: Negativity and what was the best thing That Doc halliday.

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Speaker 1: Did he flushed the next last pitch and he concentrated

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Speaker 1: that's really at the end of the, day all your

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Speaker 1: preparation and the reason why he could do that because

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Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about all that other. Stuff and

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Speaker 1: in the case Of Andrew, painter now he's got some mechanical,

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Speaker 1: things he's got to work through it's going to take some.

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Speaker 1: with his body more, naturally then he doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: think about, that as you, Said, jim and he just

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Speaker 1: that's WHY i was concerns to. ME i, mean he

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Speaker 1: toss that. Aside. Now now it's time for him to redo.

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Speaker 2: Level he's an incredibly hard. Worker we've seen.

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Speaker 1: That, YES i love everything about the kid. MAN i love.

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Speaker 1: HIM i love his, MAKEUP i love the way his,

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Speaker 1: faith in him being able to do, that just BECAUSE i,

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Speaker 1: MEAN i saw him as a nineteen year old thinking to,

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Speaker 1: myself my, god this kid's a mature athletic. Kid This

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Speaker 1: and you can say it's his quiet confidence that's been

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Speaker 1: shaken a little. Bit that happens when you get introduced

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Speaker 1: To hillarch And bradsby at the major league. Level that.

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Speaker 3: Too the ingredients are. Exceptional they need to scrub it.

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Speaker 3: Up he will do the, work and it is super

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Speaker 3: important that this thing comes out with a happy ending

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Speaker 3: because twenty three year, old we know what a, commodity

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Speaker 3: young controllable pitching. Is we know The phillies don't have

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Speaker 3: a lot of, it you, know especially starting pitching this

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Speaker 2: Vital it.

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Speaker 3: Is this is a vital exercise fixing this kid and having,

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Speaker 3: it you, know see daylight at the. End AND i

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Speaker 3: agree with. YOU i have faith that it can. Happen

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Speaker 3: i've seen guys go, up but you, know the classic

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Speaker 3: example Is halliday went all the way back to a

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Speaker 3: ball rebuilt himself similar work, ETHIC i would, say different,

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Speaker 3: personalities but both are demon.

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Speaker 2: You know how much of a concern is that for?

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Speaker 1: You, WELL i mean we've talked about this at nauseum

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Speaker 1: i don't. Know ALL i know is that starting pitching

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Speaker 1: Them now they only have, three and so it does

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Speaker 1: NOW i don't know where they're gonna get the innings

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Speaker 1: give you a five innings and three runs which he did?

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Speaker 4: Yesterday yes he, can or day before, yesterday, whatever, yesterday

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Speaker 4: be able to cover. It but you can't have two

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Speaker 4: guys who do that and be able to handle that

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Speaker 1: Bullpen it's just too many innings that the bullpen has to.

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Speaker 1: Cover unless you have so many bullpen pieces and so

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Speaker 1: much depth in your, system which most teams, don't that

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Speaker 1: pitching is going to have to be a priority For Dave.

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Speaker 1: DOMBROWSKI i don't know where he could get. It Or

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Speaker 1: Andrew paynter's gonna have to come back fast sometime in

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Speaker 3: Yeah come back fast and, Fixed so there's some variables.

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Speaker 3: There nola five, innings he threw ninety seven. Pitches he

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Speaker 3: but just you, know the economy of pitches just was

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Speaker 3: not there before the. Game Dave, dombrowski you, know was

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Speaker 3: asked about the search for pitching and he, acknowledged you,

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Speaker 3: know he has conversations with teams all the time and he,

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Speaker 2: It so it's a tough.

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Speaker 3: Situation, yeah it's, it but The phillies do have a drop,

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Speaker 3: him to The. Miners, lefty he's been. Ineffective Jose varado

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Speaker 3: in a seventh to lose a three to three tie

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Speaker 3: Away he has struggled, Recently so those are two left,

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Speaker 3: a good job in the. Middle they hope to Get

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Speaker 3: kyle backus back, soon BUT i think they're gonna have.

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Speaker 3: To you, know they need more from the left, side

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Speaker 1: little bit more bullpen depth out there than there is

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Speaker 1: Through AND i think THAT i think The All star

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00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: break is going to come at a very good time

430
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: for these guys to maybe get a breather, in to

431
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: sort of, reset especially for the starters Like Wheeler sanchez

432
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: And luzardo who can hit that spot in the season

433
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: during that time where they get a little dead arm.

434
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: Action so good time to have That All star. Break

435
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why they have it for

436
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,959
Speaker 1: this long. Season And Dave dombrowski's job right now is

437
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: not an easy. One been, there been in that. Seat

438
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: had to go get guys out of like, Nowhere Pedro

439
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: martinez's of The, world Roy, oswaltz those kind of guys

440
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: to add some depth to your rotation because it's tough

441
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: to find it out. There AND i know people are

442
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: joking around about Bringing Taiwan walker back or you, know

443
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: some other guys who. Knows but the reality of it,

444
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: is they don't fall off, trees my, friends they don't

445
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: fall off.

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Speaker 3: Trees, No and you know we talk About dave to do,

447
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: list back end, starter, bullpen those are kind of coming

448
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: to the forefront in terms of. Needs you wonder if

449
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: they're superseding the need for a right handed, bat which

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00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: we still think they need. Him in the outfield is

451
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: as a unit is weak production wise offensively in terms

452
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: of offensive. Production so Three big needs not a lot

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00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: of chips out. There so that's kind of with with

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00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: the way the needs are stacking. Up if they can

455
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: continue to get the off offense can continue to come,

456
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: around that that will be a good. Thing one guy

457
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 3: that has come around Is Alec. Baum, really he's been

458
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: pretty good over eight hundred and eight ops Since may,

459
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: one had that dreadful first five. Weeks so he had

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00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: two RBIs again last, night two big. Hits he's up

461
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: to four forty one. RBIs AND i want to, say

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00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: this is our monster, moment this is our mons monster.

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Speaker 1: Moment unleash the. Beast and you know What alec is unleashing.

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Speaker 2: It you got.

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Speaker 3: It monster moment is powered by monster. Energy and we're

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Speaker 3: happy to have them with. US i love that, stuff

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00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: you love. It and So Alec baum has been a monster.

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00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 3: Lately forty one RBIs now he's ahead Of Bryce. Harper

469
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: he's second only To kyle second on the. Team, yeah

470
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: second Only Kyle. Schweber two Behind Kyle. Schweber so after

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00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: that difficult, start he has swung a monster. Bat very very,

472
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 3: important especially in the big picture where they could be

473
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: pursuing a right handed bat and if you need to

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00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: or the quality of, IT i still think they need.

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Speaker 2: One but this all ties in no.

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Speaker 1: Question and he's he's like that big right handed. Bat

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Speaker 1: so Is Trey. Turner Trey turner's got to come. Around

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00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: he can be a right handed bat for this. TEAM.

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Speaker 1: Jt Real muto. Same we've talked about, this but imagine,

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00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: this after the horrendous start That Alec boehme, had the

481
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: dude might end up with NINETY. RBI i, mean he's

482
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: on track to get ninety to one HUNDRED rbi right,

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00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: now we're not halfway through The season's got forty one

484
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: so that's a great. Sign and he's put some really

485
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: good swings on. It he's starting to get his confidence.

486
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: BACK i think some of his personal stuff that he

487
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: had to deal with in the early part of the

488
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: season really affected. Him he may not say, that he

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00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't say it. Publicly i'll say. IT i, mean

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00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: it's a, tough tough. Go he's turned things. Around he's

491
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: swinging with a lot more. Confidence it's nice to see

492
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: that him do, that and they need. Him the other

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00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: part of this is the guy that's really struggling lately

494
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: Is Bryce. HARPER i, mean the fact That Bryce harper

495
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: is now third IN rbi doesn't bode. Well one for

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00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: the fact That turner wasn't getting on base in front

497
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: of him, one but, two he's sort of cooled off

498
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: this last month or. So he has not been very.

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00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: Good not sure what's going. On it's been a little

500
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: bit of longer stretch for him for him to. Struggle

501
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: he is streaky at, times but he needs to get

502
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: back on track for this team to have. Success here's the.

503
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: Reality If schwarber And harper don't, produce then this team,

504
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: screwed and so they need him to be you, know

505
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: they need him to be closer to elite than he

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00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: has been in the last month or. So and not

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00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: sure EXACTLY i see his feet, moving pulling off the,

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00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: ball trying to maybe drive the ball out of the.

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00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: Ballpark when he stays in the middle of the, Field

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00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: we've talked about it at. Nauseum when he drives the

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00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: ball the opposite, field that's when you know he's having

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00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: success and back on the. Ball he needs to get

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00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: back there again for The phillies to have.

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Speaker 2: Success, well maybe it was a good.

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00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: Sign he did hit one to the wall to the

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00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: left field last, night the left field and made a

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00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: really good. Play, yeah nice, play very good. Play so

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00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: But Alec baum swinging it good and that is an

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00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,720
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Speaker 3: we're rolling right. Along the series resumes On. Saturday AS

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00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: i Mentioned Chris, SANCHEZ i think he'll be a little

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00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: pumped because he didn't pitch all that well In milwaukee

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00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: his last.

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00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: Outing so get him back on the on the, uh.

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00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: You, know on the straight and narrow there and then

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00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: wheeler on On, sunday.

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Speaker 1: Nights so, yeah that's so important for them to try

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00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: to win that first game because they could really have wrapped,

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00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: up you, know another series win with those guys going

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00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: back to. Back you know that the bullpen faltered a little.

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00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Bit they didn't get a hit after the fourth. INNING

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Speaker 1: i don't think they. Did they really sort of cooled,

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00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: off and that bullpen for The mets is actually pretty.

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00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: Good there's some guys in the back end of that

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00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 1: bullpen are throwing the baseball. Well but this is a

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00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: team that you, know when you get an opportunity to

541
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: win a game like, that and they were still in the,

542
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: game they got to try to win. It can't gotta

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00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: flush it now and hope that these guys can get

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00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 1: the kind of performance that they typically get out Of

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00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: Christopher sanchez and then bounce back again With wheeler On.

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00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: Sunday good combination to be able to win that to

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00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: win that. Series but they got to win that first

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Speaker 1: one On.

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Speaker 2: SATURDAY i just want to make a quick point before we.

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Speaker 3: Go we mentioned the need for you, know to fix

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00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: some of these floors flaws from. Within boom keep doing

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00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: what he's, doing Get Trey turner. Going your big boys

553
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: need to be your big. Boys they could potentially at

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00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: least get some assistance in the bullpen from, within because

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00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: this Seth, johnson who has been up and down a

556
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: few times, now came back last night and.

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00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: Through THE u know what out of it he.

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00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: Was he was touching triple, digits two strikeouts in a

559
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: scoreless sixth. Inning the kid's got a good. Arm it's

560
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: never clicked for, him but recently At TRIPLE a it.

561
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: Has he's been on a really nice run At TRIPLE.

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00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: A there is you, know the baseball landscape is littered

563
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: with relievers who were up and, down up and, down were,

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00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: middling never could get it together for, years and all

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00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: of a, sudden, boom something. Clicks if this kid can

566
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: be you know that guy that it's time for something

567
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: clicks for, him, boy that would be a, nice a nice.

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00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: Lift he's got a good, arm, man we saw it last.

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Speaker 3: Night it's a great.

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00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: POINT i, mean sometimes it just takes one moment or

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00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: one somebody getting into his ear or him having like

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00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: a level of success at the higher levels and then

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00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: in the big leagues for it to. Click he's got the.

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00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: Ingredients he's got an unbelievable. Arm it's the guy that

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00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: they acquire From baltimore right in with the left hander

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: THEY i mean it was you, know you're taking a

577
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: chance on a big, arm Right, well this kid's got

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00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: a big, arm and it's a matter of whether or

579
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: not one he can find the confidence in the, use you,

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00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: know letting it fly and to having the ability to

581
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: throw it for. Strikes and so if he can do,

582
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: that and he did show some signs of it as

583
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: last outing or his first outing with the, PILLS i

584
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: mean he's been up and down a few. Times hey,

585
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Man sometimes it takes a few shots at it to

586
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: get comfortable at the major league. Level and IF i, mean,

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00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: Listen i'm not trying To i'm. Dreaming i'm not dreaming

588
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: on something that's not doesn't. Exist this is a guy

589
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: who's got a, big, big big, arm and if that

590
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: big arm can, click then they may have something.

591
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: There, yeah they this team could use AN x. Factor

592
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: he could really.

593
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: Use every team needs a little somebody From. Uh you,

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00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: know it comes off the, planet no.

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00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: Question and, hey uh that was a fun little Chat

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00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 3: rube AND i enjoyed. IT i thank the fans for

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00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: sticking with us as we've plowed through Without Todd he

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00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: is The Todd pod.

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00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: And we're just trying to. Survive so thanks, You Smelling

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Speaker 2: Latter Ruin Smilly.

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