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Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's honor some heroes

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Speaker 1: on a Memorial Day show. It is me. I am

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Speaker 1: live in the chair. I need to set some things

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Speaker 1: up for you tonight because I realized there's a chance

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Speaker 1: there are a bunch of new people listening to the

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Speaker 1: show or whatnot. Normally, The Jesse Kelly Show is a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. We laugh, I make your reverent jokes.

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Speaker 1: We do talk a lot of politics and food, and

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Speaker 1: I tell stupid stories and it's just it's it's a

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Speaker 1: political show that put a smile on your face. Maybe

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Speaker 1: not tonight, Oh, I think you enjoy it because there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be tons of history and we're gonna honor heroes

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Speaker 1: always have, and Lord Willing, we always will. We do

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Speaker 1: a three hour show to honor the veterans. We don't

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Speaker 1: do any live ad reads. Obviously we have commercial breaks.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, but there won't be any live ad reads.

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Speaker 1: I have as scheduled now four different veterans I know

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Speaker 1: coming on the show to talk about comrades and arms

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Speaker 1: they've lost. I have a list here of names people

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Speaker 1: have emailed in. We're gonna talk history around some of

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Speaker 1: these battles. We're gonna spend three hours honoring the fallen,

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Speaker 1: honoring the fallen. That is what today is, and that's

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Speaker 1: all today is. On Memorial Day. You've heard me say

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Speaker 1: it before and I will say it again. I know

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Speaker 1: I don't have that burden, but I know you do.

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Speaker 1: I know all these things. Today is not the day

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Speaker 1: to think of veteran or our first responder or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. Those who signed up and went overseas or

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Speaker 1: Do they for them? Do they not? We deserve? I

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Speaker 1: but I went to community college, so what's a word. Now?

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Speaker 1: You know exactly what I mean. Many of you have

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Speaker 1: emailed in names as I asked you to have people

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Speaker 1: and so forth. You will hear me reading names like

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Speaker 1: We are going to spend three hours honoring heroes who

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Speaker 1: gave it all and geeking out on history. Does that

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Speaker 1: sound like a plan? We got Green Berets coming on

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Speaker 1: the show to talk about fallen comrades, regular Army guys, marines.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be It's going to be a show.

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Speaker 1: I believe we have an obligation to do, and it's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start here with this an email. Actually, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Eddie Bryan. He bravely fought in the Battle

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Speaker 1: of Guadalcanal in World War two, a decorated marine shot

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Speaker 1: say his name. His name is Ike Guadalcanal. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Sounds nice? Right? Almost doesn't sound too bad. Maybe go

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Speaker 1: Listeners of my show will know the Japanese attacked us

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Speaker 1: And there's more. When it comes to Guadalcanal, stuff you

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Speaker 1: actual names. In fact, in all the books I've ever

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Speaker 1: read about Guadalcanal and the men who lost their lives there,

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Speaker 1: I've heard these stories, there's never a name attached to it.

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Speaker 1: Did you know we had guys eaten by crocodiles on

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Speaker 1: guadal Canal? Now, they don't make movies about that, right,

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Speaker 1: it's not sexy diving on a grenade, charging a pill box,

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Speaker 1: Look at the heroism he killed nine thousand enemy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's heroic, it's awesome, and we're gonna honor those guys today.

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Speaker 1: Do you know we had guys die going down to

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Speaker 1: Canal was a terrible, terrible battle, and it was one

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Speaker 1: And there's going to be more Pacific World War two

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Speaker 1: And then look at and if you're a young man

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a Memorial Day. And remember, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want, you can email the show if I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I've missed names. I did what I could do.

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Speaker 1: About ten minutes from now. I've read you before. The

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Speaker 1: This is just a show about the fallen. Jesse Chris

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesse for honoring our fallen heroes. Please say

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Speaker 1: my name, and more importantly, my father's name. His name

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Speaker 1: me with this guy's name on it? What did he

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Speaker 1: do well? Robbie, Robbie, he led an assault. So let

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Speaker 1: me back up a little bit. We so we were

429
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: on the night so some sometime prior to January twenty fourth,

430
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: we received some information that there was a high value

431
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: targeting in the area that we've been to before, in

432
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: that there's an opportunity we can capture, um kill capture

433
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: this this individual. So we started our mission planning and

434
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Speaker 1: Robert Miller was the junior um weapons sergeant on the

435
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: team or the senior weapons sergeant on the team. We

436
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: had too at the time, and he his his his

437
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: soul responsibilities the weapons and training. So while he spent

438
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: the lex that whole week part leading up to the

439
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: mission with along with another or other weapons sergeant, getting

440
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: our Afghans ready to conduct this mission. Along with myself,

441
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: I was the eighth I'm the eighteen, Charlie, the engineer

442
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: on the team, and my job basically is to get

443
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: the logistics down, making sure we have the vehicles ready

444
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: to go, and come up with any obstacle clearing plans

445
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: that we will need to to disrupt on along the way.

446
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: So come January twenty fourth, we get this mission. We've

447
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: we've done the planning, we've done the rehearsals, and we

448
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: sent our Afkhan, our Afghans away to go. It gets

449
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of R and R before this time

450
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: before we were about to execute this mission, and we

451
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: soon we got the green light to go and the

452
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, we the plan was for us to link

453
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Speaker 1: up with our Afghans at a place called Checkpoint Delta,

454
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Speaker 1: which was about I don't know, eight kilometers north of

455
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Speaker 1: the firebase. We get there, Robbie and the team, we

456
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: get there and something was kind of off from the

457
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: get go, there was some confusion. We didn't recognize a

458
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Speaker 1: lot of the Afghans that were supposed to be there.

459
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, we continue on with the mission. So we

460
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 1: hop in our trucks and we continue north and we

461
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: get about eight We get another about four or five

462
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: kilometers into the validy, and we hit our first obstacle,

463
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: which was a boulder in the road. And this is

464
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: important because there was only one road. There's no way,

465
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: there's no getting around this boat or because on one

466
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: side of the boulder is a mountain and on the

467
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: other side of the boulder is a river, and there's

468
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: no driving around it. So I was tasked to go

469
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: blow that boulder up. I blew it up, and we

470
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: continue forward and we got to these switchbacks and the

471
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: same thing again, approached another border boulder roll sometimes sorry,

472
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Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt again. Speak with Javier Mackey green Bray.

473
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: He's telling us a story. Is this something that's common?

474
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Are are these boulders in the road? Are you thinking

475
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: this is done on purpose or this is just the norm?

476
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's a roadbut beside a mountain. Well, this

477
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: is definitely new. Like we've spent by this point, Rob

478
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: myself and the majority of the team has spent two

479
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: years in this valley, and we know the people, we

480
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: know the patterns, but this was new, totally new, and

481
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: so we come across the second boulder and we blew

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Speaker 1: it up. And in between the interdiction of the first

483
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: boulder and the second boulder, UM we get news from UM.

484
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 1: We have some assets available to us that let us

485
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: know that we're the guy that we were going to.

486
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: Where we were going, he wasn't no longer there. He

487
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: had moved across the river and he was hunkered down

488
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: on the east side of the river. This river runs

489
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: north and the south. So we continue on to this

490
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: little plateau and it's still dark outside. It was it

491
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: was a very cold night. We had the moon having

492
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Speaker 1: quite the moon and hadn't quite crescent over the mountains.

493
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: So we're still in the in the shadow of the

494
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: lunar skylight, and we're in this deep valley and we

495
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: line up for trucks and we did something that not

496
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Speaker 1: a lot of people can say that they did during

497
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: in Iraq or in Afghanistan, and this set up an

498
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: ambush to Normally we're getting ambush, but in this point

499
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: we were able to set up an ambush with left

500
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: and right security, just like you would do in training,

501
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: and ambush our enemy. And this is a very rare occasion,

502
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: so we're all but the only differences we had a

503
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: terrain feature, this river in between us and the people

504
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: we were ambushing, and once it was confirmed that these

505
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: guys were walking out, we opened up our ambush and

506
00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: we unleashed a hell fire of destruction these guys. That

507
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: lasted for quite a bit because there was they were

508
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: still shooting back at us. And Robert Millner, who was

509
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: in our second truck, he was manning the Mark nineteen

510
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: and this is an automatic grenade launcher that shoots a

511
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: forty millimeter linked grenade and it's it's a it's about

512
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: fifty rounds or thirty two rounds of pure hate coming

513
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: at you. If you don't you know, if you only

514
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: have one can link together, but we usually have two

515
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: or three cans linked in one mortar box. And he

516
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: was he was getting his gun on on that and

517
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: that this firefight he goes on for an undetermined amount

518
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: of time. At the same time we're having we have

519
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: ISSR or we have an aircraft on station that's identified.

520
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: It's marking targets for us, and we're shooting, and Robbie

521
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Miller's pretty much directing fires. Um where the ISSR would

522
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: with an aircraft platform would indicate where there were a

523
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: troop movement, and he would hit it up with the

524
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: mark nineteen and we would um shoot apples at at

525
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: his at his markings. UM. Later saves fire was called Javier,

526
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to do it again. It's it's sticking radio.

527
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: It's the way it is. Javier Mackey is being good

528
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: enough to give us some real, a real story about

529
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: a hero that we lost here on this Memorial Day.

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Speaker 1: We are going to go to another quick break. We're

531
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: going to be back so he can continue, and I'm

532
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: glad you are taking your time and walking us through

533
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: this so people can understand the situation. He's going to

534
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: come back and he's going to continue to tell us

535
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: what this man did, what he's sacrificed for this country,

536
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: for you, for me, for his teammates. Mostly. I'm sure

537
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: we'll be right back on the Jesse Kelly Show. It

538
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Memorial Day special

539
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: to honor the fallen, and I'm gonna go right back

540
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: to him. So I know you're on the edge of

541
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: your seat. I am as well. Javier Mackie Special Forces

542
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: is joining us. He has been telling us leading up

543
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: to Robert Miller gave his life in Afghanistan when a

544
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: middle of honor doing it. We have a citation. I

545
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: can read it for you, but it doesn't even come

546
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: close to doing justice to what he did. So I'm

547
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: going to hand the floor back to Javier. Javier, please continue.

548
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: You guys just ambushed a bunch of guys and you're

549
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: making their lives miserable. What continue? So the captain calls

550
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: cease fire. Each of the leaders from the truck's consolidate

551
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: and has been decided we have to go conduct a

552
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: what they call it battle damage assessment. From Harold, I'm

553
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: a call it just a BDA. What that basically is,

554
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: we're going to identify whether or not we actually killed

555
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: who we were going after, or we can capture room

556
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: if they're still alive, and positively identify if there is

557
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: no other civilian casualties or damage is done. And so

558
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: this is numb. This is normally done to cover our butts,

559
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: but it's also done to just to reaffirm that we

560
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: actually did what we're there to do, and so we

561
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: have to go north a little bit and we cross

562
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: a bridge and then we head back south where they ambush.

563
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Where we ambush the individuals coming out of the compound

564
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: where they were and from what I can tell in

565
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: the darkness, they had policed up all their bodies, and

566
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: it was really hard to determine people that we hit.

567
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: So that being said, just to give them three description.

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00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: So as we're walking south down the rivers now on

569
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Speaker 1: the right side of our patrol and it's the trail

570
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: starts to open up. It's a thin trail, it's about

571
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: a meter or so why and it starts to open

572
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: up where we have some level terrace agricultural rocky rocky

573
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: terrain and to the right, to the left is a mountain.

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Speaker 1: So they we have this mountain off to our left

575
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: gently sloping up into a ridge, a finger like a

576
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: finger like land masks that protrudes downward, and at the

577
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: tip of the finger would be a like a little draw.

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00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: And on the other side of that draw was like

579
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: another finger like ridgeline that comes down going towards the river.

580
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: At that little intersection where the draw was and those

581
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: two fingers met was a boulder, and Robbie's up front

582
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Speaker 1: because he speaks Bashtu, he speaks French, he speaks Russian.

583
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Speaker 1: The kid when very he came to the team knowing

584
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: multiple languages, and while he was in Afghanistan, he pushed

585
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: that he learned Dari and Pashtu and he was the

586
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: strongest in Darian posture outside of our interpreters who are

587
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: also with us. And so he was helping out with

588
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: hurting the cats of the Afghans that are in the

589
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: patrol alongside us. So we get to this point where

590
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: we're crossing this little rocky outcove going towards us where

591
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: this boulder is, and the Afghans who are up front,

592
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: this is their country, you know, we're putting them up front,

593
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: and they you know, you hear this oliwa akbar, and

594
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, you know, you hear automatic

595
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: gunfire coming from the boulder towards our direction, and our

596
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: patrol opens up. The Afghans who are with us, they

597
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: just bug out. They they're gone. They run towards the

598
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: river because there was some cover in that area, and

599
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: a marine who was attached to us, he's trying to

600
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: get them back into the fight. So Robbie is left

601
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Speaker 1: in the front of this of the formation with myself,

602
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: staff Sargeant Nick McGarry, staff Sergeant Rob gutierres and air

603
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: fun our interpreter right behind him. And then behind our

604
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: little formation is the headquarters. Like the team sergeant, the captain,

605
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: the warrant officer are eighteen Fox who's our intelligence in CEO,

606
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: and one other person I can't remember at the time,

607
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: but anyway, the captain gets hit in his open volley.

608
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: Now we're being ambush. We just walked into a near ambush.

609
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: And so immediately Rob, who's up front where that boulder was,

610
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: Rob interdicts the guy with a machine gun and he

611
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: kills him. And as now this is in the dark now,

612
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: and the aircraft that's above has this infrared light that

613
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: only to be seen and under our nods, and so

614
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: they're marking target that are in our area, and they

615
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: flood They actually flooded this little draw where Rob was

616
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: kind of stuck at and it was nothing but him

617
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: and AP you know, insurgents, and and so he's by himself.

618
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm about about fifty meters behind him, and we're dealing

619
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: with our own problems that I will go into later

620
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: at this time, Um, Rob is he's he's he's operating

621
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: the saw a two forty nine. This is a small

622
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: squad automatic weapon and it shoots a five five six

623
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: round delt fit done and he had a chopped down

624
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 1: version of it, and he did. He was the only

625
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: one in our patrol that didn't have a suppressor. So

626
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: he is he engaged and killed fifteen to twenty five

627
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: people within a three minute SPANUM. He also threw numerous

628
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: hand grenades before he was hit. UM. During his exchange

629
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: of fire, he was hit in the right underneath his

630
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: right armpit. It was a through and through. The last

631
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: words he said was break contact. And he was heading

632
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: towards me and we and you know, this is a

633
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: this is a mission that we did everything according to

634
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: our soop and everything went down according to our sop

635
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: up until up until this happened. And and so you know,

636
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: Rob laid down his final burst of gunfire, killing five

637
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: of the remaining guys in his area, which we were

638
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: still trying to deal with at the same time. So

639
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: at the same time when Rob got he was hit,

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Speaker 1: he said, you know, break contact. What had been going

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Speaker 1: on with us is my captain? He was like I said,

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Speaker 1: he was the first one in the exchange of fire

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Speaker 1: to get hit, and he was down. And they were

644
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Speaker 1: about another fifty meters behind the position where we're apt,

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Speaker 1: where Utierras and NC Geary and I were. We were

646
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Speaker 1: trapped basically in the X and we were still getting

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Speaker 1: you know, we were taking the back of gunfire at

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Speaker 1: less than twenty five meters and um, lucky for us,

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Speaker 1: we didn't have We had suppressed him fours and we

650
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: were able to interdict our targets effectively thanks to the

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Speaker 1: R platform identifying enemy combatants behind a wall that were

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Speaker 1: that was like five ten meters away from our area,

653
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: and it was playing whacking moole for like ten minutes

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00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: and during that time backs change the fire. I was hit.

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00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: I received my first gunshot to the chest and I

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Speaker 1: stay in a fight. It hit my magazine I had

657
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: we had at the time the army started issuing these

658
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: still magazines, and I mean I didn't really build the

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Speaker 1: impact until I went to go grab for a magazine

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't. I couldn't use it. I couldn't use

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Speaker 1: it to shoot my weapon. I hear Rob say, great contact.

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Speaker 1: So I changed bags and I go straight to you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm suppressing. I'm going to suppressive fires, and he gives

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Speaker 1: this last burst and I do I wait for him

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Speaker 1: to pass me so I can do my automatic verse

666
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: and he didn't, and so I look over. I hit

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Speaker 1: myur floodlight on my rifle to see what was happening,

668
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: and he was down. So I remember getting up and

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Speaker 1: running over to, you know, saying Rob's hit. And I

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00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: ran up to him to see if you know, maybe

671
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Speaker 1: he tripped or whatever, and he was on his last breath.

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Speaker 1: And I went quickly went back and I told the guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm going, hey, look Rob's head. I need you guys

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Speaker 1: to come help me. So mcgeary, rob Utierrez, and myself

675
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: ran through gunfire to go back to Robbie to start

676
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: rendering first aid, and Nick McGarry provided covering fire during

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Speaker 1: that maneuver. He stayed there with the interpreter, who also

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00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: provided some security for him. Mind you, we're still we're

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Speaker 1: still in the X. We're still in the kill zone

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00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: of the fired of their of the enemy's ambush, and

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Speaker 1: we're doing the best we can to get ourselves out

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Speaker 1: of it. And during this time period, our attacked our

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00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: sop wasn't really. I kind of broke our sop at

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Speaker 1: this point by going to Rob, which under normal circumstances

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Speaker 1: we would have left them there until we had gotten

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Speaker 1: the fire superiority and the ability to out maneuver the

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Speaker 1: enemy and didn't get to him as as possible. But

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00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: I broke protocol on that and went directly to him

689
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: with the Jay Tech, which was another big no no.

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Speaker 1: He's the one guy controlling fires, so under gunfire. We

691
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: started to render first aid to Rob. And it was

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Speaker 1: at this time where I realized that Rob was did.

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Speaker 1: There was a thrilling through. I couldn't find the gunshot

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Speaker 1: wound at first. When I finally did, it was a

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00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: chess you know. I applied chess steal to it, and

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Speaker 1: from that point on it was there was nothing else

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Speaker 1: I can do. I didn't find the exit wound until later,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, there was nothing I can do about it.

699
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: I beat myself up over it for years, and I've

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Speaker 1: come to accept that nobody would have survived that gunshot wound.

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Speaker 1: And it's important that I continue to tell this story

702
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: because hopefully both Rob Gautiers and Nicholas McGarry, who are

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00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: both up for the Middle you know they've recommended for

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Speaker 1: the Medal of Honor as well. Their stories need to

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Speaker 1: be told, and I'll continue to tell the story as

706
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Speaker 1: I know it. Rob Gutierres continue to fight it out

707
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: while Nick McGarry continue to deal with the hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on, Javier, I'm sorry to do it again, my brother.

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably a great time. UM, let me

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00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: let me pause and bring you back again. I just

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00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to interrupt this story.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to screw it up. So hang on

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Speaker 1: real quick on the Jesse Kelly Show. We'll be right

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00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: back so Javier Mackie can finish this up. Please. It

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Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show, back again with Javier Mackie

716
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Speaker 1: telling us the story of Robbie Miller, Medal of Honor

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Speaker 1: earner in Afghanistan and a couple other Green Brays who

718
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: are up for the Medal of Honor. Javier, I'm sorry

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00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: to interrupt, had to do that again. Please continue, sir,

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Speaker 1: So Rob Utiers and ourselves, we're at this point where

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Speaker 1: we have to make some really tough decisions as to

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00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: movement Robbie's body and um figuring out how are we

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Speaker 1: gonna complete this mission. And so it was determined that

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Speaker 1: Rob Gutierrez was going to call in some more. He's

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00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: going to call in some aircraft, uh strengthen runs with

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Speaker 1: the A ten, and they were going to be danger close,

727
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: and between in between the gun runs, we're going to

728
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Speaker 1: attempt to move Rob's body. So the aircraft came through,

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00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: they get their cleared hot and you know, they rained

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Speaker 1: down their weaponarian on top of us. At about it

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Speaker 1: was danger closed whatever danger close by definition and in

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00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: the Air Force rags and Army regulations, we very well

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00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: meant that criteria. And in between gun runs, the attempted

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Speaker 1: to move Rob's body and we just couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the rob the terrain was rocky, between trying

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Speaker 1: to get his weapon and all this other stuff. It

737
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: was just too hard. And then the second gun run

738
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Speaker 1: came in. And after that gun run came in and

739
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: came a hell fire of RPG gun fire and small

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00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: arms fire from one of the ridge lines, from a

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Speaker 1: top of one, and so Rob and I we we

742
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: interdicted those targets to be suppressed their fires. And by

743
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: this time the marine who had been trying to herd

744
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: the cats with the Afghans had reappeared and he was like, hey,

745
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm here and we you know, I made the determination.

746
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, hey, we're gonna jump over this.

747
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: There's a wall behind us, and we're gonna go over

748
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: this wall. We're gonna try to communicate to our headquarters

749
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: guys who are you know, a couple hundred meters behind us,

750
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: that what the situation is, and see if they can

751
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: maneuver up to our position. What ended up happening was

752
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: I really I gotten shot again, and this time it

753
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: hit the shoot to talk, the push to talk to

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00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: my radio. Um, the only operating radio that we had

755
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: was the J TAX and he was controlling he was

756
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: controlling an air with it. The decision was made by

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Speaker 1: Gautiers that he was going to maneuver with the marine

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00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: to a different spot to suppress, to get more casts

759
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: or you know, so close air support fires on various

760
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: aspects of the terrain so that I can maneuver back

761
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: to the CCP and report everything that was going on. Now,

762
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 1: mind you that we still have an element of guys

763
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Speaker 1: across the river, you know, pulling security, but they couldn't

764
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: fire because in between because we were a positioned in

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Speaker 1: between them and the enemy. So the only people that

766
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 1: could actually fire were those who were on the ground,

767
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 1: and that was you know, Gautier's mcgeary, what was Rob

768
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: Miller who we had to leave behind, and the marine

769
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: and the rest of the team. So I eventually made

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Speaker 1: it back to the CCP and Nick mcgeary he had

771
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: made it back. Now, Nick, well, when we went to

772
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: go fight it out with to go pull Rob, Nick

773
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: was pulling security with our interpreter and Nick was he

774
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: had effectively taken out eight guys that were you know,

775
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned that whackamole situation. He effectively taken out eight

776
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: to twelve guys that was behind this wall, but with

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00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: by himself, you know, that fighting for Pangern Austin back um,

778
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: and we like this is like we're getting back to

779
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: the firebase and he's telling us everything that would happen

780
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: that happened, um, and he's clearly shaken up. I think

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00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: I'm the most damaged at this point, you know, after

782
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: being shot twice and now I'm seeing a my you know,

783
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: having robbed die in my arms, and now I'm looking

784
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: at my captain, my captain this blue and uh kind

785
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: of take it all in and uh so Nick Nick McGarry,

786
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: he put us in the security posture. We Rob Gutierres

787
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: secured the area for a metavac and then on the

788
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: first birth that came, they put myself uh in the

789
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: in the uh Captain Cusick on the bird because he

790
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: was injured. So what happened after that was the Nick

791
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 1: McGarry linked up with Rob Gutierres along with the rest

792
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: of the team, and they um organized the counter assault.

793
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: Um between the two of them, they used the the cast,

794
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: the cast on the aircraft and they're maneuvering on the

795
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: ground to out maneuver the out maneuver the enemy, killing

796
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: several more and then being able to recover the body

797
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: of Rob Miller. So, Javier m is there anything else

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00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: anyone else you want to acknowledge really quickly before we

799
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: sign off? And I cannot thank you enough for sharing

800
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: the story of obviously not just not just Robbie Miller,

801
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: of all of all you heroes, My goodness, fan, is

802
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: there is there anyone else needs a quick acknowledgement before

803
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: we go? Third Special Forces Group, third Battalion is where

804
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: we hail. We we have I think right now to

805
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: see Rob Miller Matt Williams, rob Ron Schirter. You know,

806
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: we have three solid mel of Honor recipients and I

807
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: hand you know, there's easily a you know, a couple

808
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: of other dozen more that I can say that. We're

809
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: outstanding heroes for the last twenty years. And we fought

810
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: side by side for twenty years in after a stand

811
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: without complaining. We love what we did. Along the way,

812
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: we lost a lot of our good friends and you know,

813
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: it's really hard to talk about. I'm trying to hold

814
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: it back, but that's what today is. That's what this

815
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: weekend is all about. It's not about the hamburgers and

816
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: hot dogs. Is about remember our buddies and remembering, you know,

817
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: the values. In winter, the nation is mounted on a man.

818
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you that was outstanding. I

819
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: know that was not easy. The country is better off

820
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: for having heard his story and the story of all

821
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Speaker 1: you heroes. Simperify. My brother Super five told you it

822
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: was going to be a heavier, different show, all right.

823
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Speaker 1: We have more a Memorial Day. It is the Jesse

824
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a Memorial Day, very different show tonight.

825
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: This is just a day where we honor the fall

826
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Speaker 1: on a show where we will honor the fallen joining

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Speaker 1: me now, obviously he needs no introduction on this show.

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Speaker 1: My friend b K, former superstud Air Force PJ and

829
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Speaker 1: now host of the World News with BK podcast. B

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Speaker 1: K First, is there somebody you want to honor here

831
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 1: on this memorial Day or a bunch? Oh yeah, you know, Jesse,

832
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot that I could mention. One who

833
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: was particularly close to me was my old supervisor and

834
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: good friend, and that would be Para Rescue Chief Master's

835
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Speaker 1: Sergeant Nick McCaskill. Nick was a longtime PJ. Obviously he

836
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Speaker 1: made it to E nine and he was still in

837
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: the reserves while when he started working for the Central

838
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: Intelligence Agency and he was a paramilitary officer, ground branch

839
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Speaker 1: operator and he hold on real quick, Brik, I know,

840
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, but tell people, I mean, we do have

841
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: some sivilition to listen. What's that mean? Ground branch operator? Sure,

842
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: if you google CIA paramilitary officer. For those of you

843
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: guys want to know more. These are the guys at

844
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: the very tip of the spear. These are the guys

845
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: who are out in the boonies training their men to

846
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: go do direct action raids. Accompanying them They often they

847
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: work hand in hand with Joint Special Operations Command guys

848
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: like Delta Force Seal Team six drone strikes. They are

849
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: the tip of the spear. They're made up of very

850
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: highly qualified former military members, often guys with you know,

851
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: decades of experience in Delta Seal Team six, Joint Special

852
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: Operations Command, and they are these are the guys who

853
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: are are really out on the front lines. And Nick.

854
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: The way actually Nick died is still classified. They do

855
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: have a story out and I'm not going to say,

856
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: like exactly what happened, but if you google Nick McCaskill,

857
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: see that, you'll see a story about how he died.

858
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: And all I'll say about it is that's not what happened.

859
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: It was different circumstances. And the only way I found

860
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: out about it was talking to some other pj's and

861
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: some other CIA officers. And I just tell you, he

862
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: was He was a very good friend to me. M

863
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: He taught me a lot when I was in I

864
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: was a new PJ, you know, joining the team, and

865
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: he was there. You know, it was funny, Jesse, because

866
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, when you're on a small team like that,

867
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: whether it's Seal Team or you know, green Berets or

868
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: anything else. You kind of forget ranks sometimes and you know,

869
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: you're like, because everybody's like first name basis and you're like, hey, bro,

870
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: dude all that, and you could be like a you know,

871
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: E three talking to an E eight, e nine talking

872
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: like that. And you know, once I we were talking

873
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: and during a training mission and I kind of interrupted

874
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: to say something was stupid. What we were doing was dumb.

875
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: And I used to say that a lot and Nick

876
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: just turns to me. He's like, hey, why don't you

877
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: shut your mouth and gave me the old nice hands

878
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: to the face. And I was like, well, and I,

879
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, this is like a laid back alley boy.

880
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: Never seen him like that before, and I was like wow,

881
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: and it's just like I just immediately shut my mouth.

882
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: And but you know, despite that though, we were still

883
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: good friends and he just taught me a lot, and

884
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: it's just it's a bummer. He just missed the people

885
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: every day speaking with obviously BK. Everyone knows him on

886
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: this show, host of the World News of BK podcast,

887
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: former Air Force PJ BK. Anyone else you want to

888
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: give a quick shout out too before we let you go.

889
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: It's obviously been a heavier show, much different than our

890
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: normal conversations. But it's just, uh, that's what today is,

891
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: you know. That's it's it's about them. Yeah, it is

892
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: about them, Jessee. There's just a lot of guys. There's

893
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: too may the list I can think of at a school.

894
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: A guy who was a couple classes ahead of me

895
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: in the pipeline, Dan Zerbie, and he was killed aboard

896
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: Extortion seven team when it was shot down, and that

897
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: was the Chinook that was filled with Navy Seals and

898
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: Air Force pj's combat controllers. He was on that plane.

899
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: And I remember Dan came back when he got to

900
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: the jay Stock team and he kind of talked to

901
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: our classes we were getting ready to graduate, talking about, hey,

902
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: this is where you want to be. And there was

903
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: Bill Posh, senior PJ, who is a really well respected guy,

904
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: and he went down in a helicopter in Iraq. And

905
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: there's so many of the lists, Jesse, So as you are,

906
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll be thinking about them for the rest

907
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: of the day. B K. Thank you so much, my brother.

908
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you. Jesse. Gonna be look, it's

909
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a whole day of that. Again, it's a

910
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: little different, a little different look normally. Normally we play

911
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: this jokingly, but I mean, I hope this is kind

912
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: of jarring you awake that it's really not you know,

913
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: freedom is not free. It's really not, is it. I mean,

914
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: we look around out at all all our blessings that

915
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: it's not that you can't country blessings today. You should

916
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: your family and maybe some time with a hot dog

917
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: and a beer or whatever you're doing today. You should.

918
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: They would want you to. But it's it's important, always

919
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: will be important that we do this today. I'm going

920
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: to read off some more names because I have so

921
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: many to read and there's still so much to get to.

922
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: These are names that have been sent in of just following.

923
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: We want their names read on the Air. Major Raymond

924
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: ray Estelle the Second Air Force, Afghanistan, Carlisle Carlisle Mendez, Saipan.

925
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: Major Samuel Griffith, Afghanistan. PFC. William T. Finley nineteen seventy Vietnam.

926
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: He's nineteen years old. Kenneth James Snow nineteen forty four, Germany.

927
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: Second Lieutenant William bomb At Junior, October twenty sixth nineteen

928
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: forty two, Guadalcanal. Pfc. Robert Sewell Barnes USMC, September fourth,

929
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, Vietnam. Lieutenant Colonel Burrus Bagley Air Force,

930
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: December seventeenth, nineteen sixty six, Vietnam. His remains were actually

931
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: recovered in nineteen ninety six. James L. Armstrong Army, nineteen

932
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: seventy one, Vietnam, PFC. Edgar Romeo Roy Baton Death March.

933
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: You know what, We're gonna pause right there because this

934
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: is one of those ones that doesn't get enough talk

935
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: about anyway. I know you, I know you've heard of

936
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: the Baton Death March. Everybody's heard of the Baton Death March.

937
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: That's just one of those things that's known. A lot

938
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: of people don't understand just how unspeakable that was for

939
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: our guys. Remember, we had the Philippines before there was

940
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: a World War Two. We had the Philippines. We had

941
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: a big base there, and this is kind of it's

942
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of important to the story for the guys

943
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: who ended up losing their lives there. The Philippines. Member

944
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: we weren't it wore prior to World War Two. Obviously,

945
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: it was the cushy assignment everyone wanted. I've actually seen

946
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: now colorized home videos from our army base over there,

947
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: and it was, you know, I mean, what do you think.

948
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of pretty Filipino girls and having a

949
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: beer and enjoying yourself. It's the cushy job and the

950
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: traffics with there in the tropics, with the pretty girls.

951
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: And then it was kind of that assignment. You're you know,

952
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: you're not having a bunch of green beret types over there.

953
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: This was the kind of softer assignment, or at least

954
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: they thought these guys were soft. And then the Japanese

955
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: began to overrun the Philippines as they did, and they

956
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: ended up trapping our guys on a peninsula, the Baton Peninsula.

957
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: We had to basically have a tactical retreat back into

958
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: a big finger, a big peninsula, and the Japanese were

959
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 1: coming at us and coming at us and coming at us,

960
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: and our guys didn't turn out to be all that soft.

961
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: Our guys head set up an outstand a bunch of

962
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: lines where defense by depth really so we'd have a

963
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: bunch of fighting holes and stuff like that. And our

964
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: guys are on this peninsula and the Japanese are attacking them,

965
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: and we're shooting back and they're shooting us. But this

966
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: is this is one of those things to where as

967
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: we get to the you know, the rest the story

968
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: in the Baton Death March, this is one of those

969
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: things to where your mind kind of plays a trick

970
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: on you, at least it does for me, and I

971
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: screw up where these guys were and what was going

972
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: on because the only America I've ever known, I'm forty

973
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 1: years old, the only America I've ever known, is we

974
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: were always kind of, if not the biggest and baddest.

975
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: It's not like we can't die in places like Iraq

976
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: and Afghanistan, but we were never going to be dominated,

977
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: taken over, overrun, even if you bought it, who were Look,

978
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: I'll call it an airstrike. Someone will, someone will bring

979
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: out planes, whatever we need. There was always something there

980
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: because we're no matter where we've been for all of

981
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: my life, we've been the big dog in that area.

982
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: Well that wasn't the case in Baton. And actually I'm

983
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: going to finish this story here in just a second.

984
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: Hang on, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a

985
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: very special memorial Day Show. Let's continue our story in

986
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: case you missed it. We were talking about some guys

987
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: who gave their lives at the Baton Death March. And

988
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand. They've heard of the

989
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: Baton Death March, they don't understand the circumstances around it.

990
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: All Right, the Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor, they declare war.

991
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: We have an army base in the Philippines. The Japanese

992
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: storm through the Pacific, I mean, no one could withstand them,

993
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: and they very quickly. We had to have a tactical

994
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: retreat back to the Baton Peninsula in the Philippines. Well,

995
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: as I was saying, we're used to, I mean for

996
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: my whole life. I'm forty, from my entire life. We're

997
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: used to being the power in whatever region we're in,

998
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: the big dog on the block. Picture this, picture this.

999
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 1: You're in the army, Like fifteen minutes ago, you had

1000
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: a cushy assignment in the Philippines. Now you're being assaulted

1001
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: by a vicious, relentless enemy who's more than happy to

1002
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: die for it. You are now stuck on a peninsula,

1003
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: the Baton Peninsula in the Philippines. You don't have enough food.

1004
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: You very quickly run out of food, and they're eating

1005
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: snakes and bugs and roots and monkeys, and you're starving

1006
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: to death. You're sick. Remember the jungle, the jungles, the

1007
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: place that will kill you without anybody firing a shot.

1008
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: Malaria and yellow fever and dysentery and all the endless things.

1009
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: So you're stuck on this peninsula, you're starving, you're sick.

1010
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: You have vicious ways. The Japanese would fight. They would

1011
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: sneak through our lines. They would slip into your fighting

1012
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: who at night and knife fight you to death. It

1013
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: was It was horrendous. And again, remember you were on

1014
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: a cushy assignment fifteen minutes ago. Now you're here, and

1015
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: that's not the worst part. The worst part is there's

1016
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: no help coming. There's no navy ships on the way,

1017
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: there's no big bombers flying. This is prior to satellites overhead.

1018
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: The Japanese are the big dog in this area. You're

1019
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: on this peninsula, starving, sick, scared, and you're alone. And

1020
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: that's where they were on Baton and they fought like lions.

1021
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: They fought really, really great and in the end the

1022
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: commander he actually took a lot of heat for this.

1023
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: He was told he was not allowed to surrender, but

1024
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: he thought his men were all going to die if

1025
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: he didn't, so he does surrender with the assurance from

1026
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: the Japanese commander that his men would be treated well.

1027
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: He surrendered with the assurance his men would be treated well.

1028
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: But we hadn't We hadn't had many men captured by

1029
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: the Japanese yet, and we didn't understand in the world

1030
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: in World War Two, we didn't understand what exactly that

1031
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: meant for them. They had a different culture. They did

1032
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: believe it was they believe. Look, there was there's a

1033
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: lot of race stuff in there. You know. We believe

1034
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: that we were higher than them, and they believed they

1035
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: were higher than us. It's just one of those things

1036
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: they believe. Submitting when they had this kind of Bushido

1037
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: code type thing they that was disgraceful for a lot

1038
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: of different reasons. You did not want to fall into

1039
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: Japanese hands. Remember twenty five percent of the soldiers who

1040
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: fell into Japanese hands in World War two died. I mean,

1041
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: we can hate the Nazis all we wanted, we should, right,

1042
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: Nazis suck. I think the number is like two percent

1043
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: died in the care of the Germans. The Germans would

1044
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: feed you, clothe you everything. Japan not so much. So

1045
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: we surrender in mass Now again, this is something else

1046
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: that's not known as I try to wrap this up

1047
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: here because we have a lot else to get to.

1048
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: Our guys who are surrendering to the Japanese in Batan.

1049
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: They're not young, fit ready to go. I mean, they

1050
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: may be young. Remember I just said, they're all sick

1051
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: and they're all starving. You're not falling into the hands

1052
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: of barbarians in your best state. You're falling in the

1053
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: hands of barbarians, and you've lost thirty pounds from dysentery

1054
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: and you're running one hundred and two fever. Oh and

1055
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: did I mention it's over one hundred degree free And

1056
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: then the Japanese begin to line our guys up and

1057
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: march them miles and miles and miles and miles in

1058
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: the heat. They oftentimes wouldn't let them drink water. It

1059
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: was full of unimaginable cruelty. They would ask men if

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Speaker 1: they wanted to drink water, and when the men said yes,

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Speaker 1: they would lead them down to the water and then

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Speaker 1: cut their heads off at the water. We had guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, we're honoring these guys today. We have guys.

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Speaker 1: Imagine living with this the rest of your life. You're

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Speaker 1: there with five or six of your buddies, and the

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Speaker 1: Japanese come up and tell your buddies this guy dig

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Speaker 1: a hole right here and bury them alive. And if

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Speaker 1: your buddies say no, then they'll just kill all your

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Speaker 1: buddies anyway, So your buddies have no choice but to

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Speaker 1: dig a hole in the ground when you're starving and

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Speaker 1: sick and keeping each other alive. But to dig a

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Speaker 1: hole in the ground and bury you alive, they would

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01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: just drive over our guys. They would bayonet them. And

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Speaker 1: again we tell all these stories like a memorial dawn.

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Speaker 1: We told some today about valor and charging in and overcoming,

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Speaker 1: and we tell we tell all these things, and all

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Speaker 1: those things are wonderful, and all those things matter. We

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01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't forget how many of our guys die in situations

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Speaker 1: that are just unimaginable like this. How many POWs did

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Speaker 1: we lose in places like Vietnam, not just Japan. I

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Speaker 1: mean this goes beyond it. How many POWs did we

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Speaker 1: lose and they died alone. So many of these guys

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01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:46,759
Speaker 1: they died alone, They died sick, they did not die quickly,

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Speaker 1: and they gave their life for the country. And they

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Speaker 1: deserve a day again. This is why, this is why

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Speaker 1: this day is just reserved for them. They deserve a

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Speaker 1: day to honor them. They deserve a day to onto them.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Noland USMC December twenty first, two thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: Wendel Ray Wheat nineteen sixty six, July Vietnam, Private Keegan

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Speaker 1: Stowan Furlong, May seventeen, May seventh, twenty nineteen, Staff Sergeant

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Speaker 1: Umberto Timoteo, Sergeant Frank Carvill, Sergeant Ryan Doltz, Specialist Christopher Duffy,

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Speaker 1: all four of those guys. John died on June fourth,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four an Operation Iraqi Freedom from an

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Speaker 1: Ied Staff Sergeant William Jerome Brooks May fifth, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and five, Iraq. On and on and on it goes.

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Speaker 1: All right, we still have Green Beret Claim Martin coming up,

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Speaker 1: we have Braxton McCoy coming up. We're gonna get to more.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get the Medal of Honor, citations, Distinguished Service

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Speaker 1: Cross citations, as much stuff as I have time to

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Speaker 1: get to that's we're gonna get to today on a

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Speaker 1: special Memorial Day episode of The Jesse Kelly Show. It

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Speaker 1: is The Jesse Kelly Show, Final hour of The Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Gonna do one more hour honoring the fallen

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Speaker 1: today on Memorial Day. I know it's a different show,

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Speaker 1: but that's just Look, it's how it's gonna be every

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day. We're gonna do a show and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: honor the fallen. Here joining me now is of course,

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Speaker 1: author of outstanding books like Prairie Fire. More importantly for today,

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Speaker 1: former Marine Scout sniper Marine Vietnam and long time Green

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Speaker 1: Beret Clay Martin joins us. Now, Clay, who do you

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Speaker 1: want to honor this Memorial Day? Except for Marine Vietnam

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Speaker 1: part I'm not that old. Oh yeah, say Vietnam a

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01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: long time marine recon Marine scout sniper is what I

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Speaker 1: meant to say. Go ahead, Clay, it's been a long day, brother,

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Speaker 1: Hey man, Yes, hey, thanks for having me on. Dude.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about a couple of people the days,

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Speaker 1: if we had the time. First was Master stars in

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Speaker 1: Eden Pearl, who was a legend of the Force Freecon community,

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01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: coolest dude you ever met? Hold On, hold on once, Clay,

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Speaker 1: what's force Frecon for people who don't know. Force Freecon

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Speaker 1: back in the older days was the special operations component

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Speaker 1: of the Marine Corps before Marcock was founded. Please continue,

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Speaker 1: so Eden Pearl, Like I say, he's the cooles dude, right.

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Speaker 1: I actually checked into a ricond of the young as

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Speaker 1: a lance corporal. Sell when I got there and he

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01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 1: was already an old hand, but I just the courlst

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: dude you ever met. Like, that's a rough place to

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Speaker 1: be a new guy, but he made it so it

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01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: wasn't it that way? He stayed in the in the

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01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: force Freecon community after I crossed deck and left the Army.

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Speaker 1: I did tours in like two thousand and four, two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five. It was actually one of the plant

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Speaker 1: holders helped to found Marsock. He got really chewed up

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01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, went to village, got in

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Speaker 1: this big old gunfight and I actually hit a bomb

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01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: on the way out and ended up losing two legs

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Speaker 1: in an arm right then, as well as received burns

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: over ninety percent of his body. Yeah, it was awful,

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01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: I mean, just absolutely awful. They said, he was probably

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Speaker 1: the most wounded guy that had ever like lived, you know,

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01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: like like like recovered for a while. And I ended

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01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: up dying of his wound almost six years later at

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Speaker 1: his home in San Antonio. But yeah, made a terrible sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that is who else? Clay? Next? I wanted

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: to talk about Nathan Winder, who was a friend of

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: mine from the especial course of course. Actually I was

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Speaker 1: actually going a Korea up, came over, joined the Army,

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01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: became a Special Forces medic, and was assigned to a

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: first Special Forces Group. And this is definitely one of

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Speaker 1: those weird ones in that thes overlap. I hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: in Nate in years. I got called out in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and seven with a commando company to go down

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01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: to south this place called Dwinee in Iraq because this

1154
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 1: team had just hit hard, got their teamhouse blown up.

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Speaker 1: Two people actually died, one of which was Nay Winder,

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Speaker 1: and so we had to go down and kind of

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Speaker 1: help clean up the mess. Nate actually died in a

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Speaker 1: contact in that place called Dewinee, which was an absolute

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Speaker 1: hell hole. Uh why what we put that place? Tell

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Speaker 1: us about it? It was where a lot of the

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Speaker 1: ash Sh militia training on their way to bag that.

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Speaker 1: So they would bring these guys straight out. I ran

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Speaker 1: over there because it's kind of a good a little

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Speaker 1: training ground. They were very strong down there. They'd fight

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Speaker 1: with whoever was there for a while and then they

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Speaker 1: take a lover survived up to the big show and Bagdad.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, always fresh fighters, always a really nasty place.

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Speaker 1: And Nate ends up sure coming to a small armor

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Speaker 1: fire or for another guy who was wounded, which didn't

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Speaker 1: know until after the fact. Yeah, really really wild stuff. Clay,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling us and honoring a

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Speaker 1: couple of our falling today. Anything else you want to

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Speaker 1: say before we sign up? Hey, brother, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me on. I appreciate this every year, and you know

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Speaker 1: this is this is a really good show and I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that you do this. Are good, my man, you

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Speaker 1: two man stuff. Man, it's brutal. Jesse, my dad was

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Speaker 1: at Anzio July twenty or January twenty second, nineteen forty

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Speaker 1: four to June fifth, nineteen forty four. On this day

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Speaker 1: in nineteen forty four, US fifty fifth Army had been

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Speaker 1: pinned down for one hundred and twenty seven days. It

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Speaker 1: would take ten more days of hell and help from

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Speaker 1: the British to break out and take Rome. He says

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Speaker 1: this is not well known because of something going on

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Speaker 1: at Normandy. Twenty seven thousand, two hundred casualties, of which

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Speaker 1: forty eight hundred paid the ultimate price. Please remember them

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Speaker 1: on Memorial days, says I can use his name. His

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Speaker 1: name is Marvin. In case you don't know what this is,

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Speaker 1: this whole Anzio Italian campaign. I've often said this, the

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Speaker 1: Italian campaign, the Italian portion of World War two is

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Speaker 1: by a mile, the most undertold part of that war.

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Speaker 1: I mean there are parts that obviously when everyone thinks

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Speaker 1: about the highlights. When you think about World War two,

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Speaker 1: you think about World War two, you're gonna think about

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Speaker 1: the Holocaust. You can think about Hitler. You're gonna think

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Speaker 1: about the invasion of Normandy. I talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: the Pacific portion of it. You know, the atomic bombs

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Speaker 1: at Hiroshima and Nagasa. You're gonna know about all these things,

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Speaker 1: or at least have some general base of knowledge. People

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Speaker 1: do not have a general base of knowledge of the

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Speaker 1: living hell our guys went through in the Italian campaign

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Speaker 1: and how many of our guys we lost. Did you

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Speaker 1: even know forty eight hundred died there? And it's something

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Speaker 1: you have to understand about Italy. It really came into

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Speaker 1: play here is Italy when we landed, when we were

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Speaker 1: fighting on the Italian peninsula, we weren't fighting the Italians really.

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Speaker 1: By this point in time, the Italians had kind of

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Speaker 1: cashed in their chips and given it up. Well, Hitler,

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Speaker 1: he knew having Italy was critical because it protected his

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Speaker 1: southern part of Europe. So the Italians, who were frankly

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Speaker 1: pretty worthless in World War Two, they got bounced and

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Speaker 1: in came a bunch of highly trained Germans and the

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Speaker 1: Italian countryside it's all mountains and rivers. It's one gigantic

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Speaker 1: living hell to fight end all mountains and rivers, and

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Speaker 1: so fdr He look, the whole thing was probably mostly

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Speaker 1: his fault, but Churchill has to own some of it too.

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Speaker 1: Churchill was trying to ease the pressure off of them,

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Speaker 1: and they were trying to figure out how do we

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Speaker 1: do this? And this is when all that soft underbelly

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Speaker 1: of Europe came out. Italy soft, it's the soft underbelly. Well,

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Speaker 1: it may have been the soft underbelly when the Italians

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Speaker 1: were manning the guns. It wasn't no soft underbelly when

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Speaker 1: the Germans did. And this is post George Patton getting sacked.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you know the George Patton story. The

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Speaker 1: greatest offensive general, certainly on the American side in World

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Speaker 1: War Two, walks in a hospital season guys suffering with PTSD, slaps,

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Speaker 1: one pulls a gun on another, gets publicly reprimanded. Now

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Speaker 1: they didn't toss him out of the army, but they

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01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: basically sidelined him. He went and did some distraction stuff

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Speaker 1: that was very important for Normandy. Now I only tell

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01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: you that to tell you this. We had a bunch

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Speaker 1: of b team generals in charge who would head up

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Speaker 1: the Italian campaign, and we just had other parts of

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Speaker 1: the war where we put better guys that didn't look

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of reasons for it, but I tell

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Speaker 1: you that to tell you this. When we landed in Italy,

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Speaker 1: we took Sicily first, and then we started this Anzio campaign,

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Speaker 1: and we started the Italian campaign. Our guys got on

1239
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 1: shore and the Germans start bombing us to death with artillery.

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Speaker 1: Just start lob and artillery. Our guys and our guys

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Speaker 1: are dying again. Heroes the heroes were honoring today, our

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Speaker 1: guys are dying well. We had a bunch of weak,

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Speaker 1: indecisive generals in charge at the time, and they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: push in and get us off the beach. So our

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01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: guys were just dug in, getting pounded to dust. That's

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Speaker 1: why we lost so many guys in the Italian campaign.

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Speaker 1: And look, that's just a small part of it. Eventually

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Speaker 1: we broke through. They had to land, he said, He said,

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Speaker 1: help from the British attacking Italy's east coast. People had

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Speaker 1: to land north of us to try to distract the

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Speaker 1: Germans and pull us off us. It's a long, awful

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Speaker 1: story and a lot of brave men went over there

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Speaker 1: and died in that place because of a lot of incompetence.

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Speaker 1: And it's a good day. It's a good day to

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Speaker 1: honor them. It is a good day to honor them.

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Speaker 1: Getting to as much as I can hear, Hey, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honored if you can read Tom Kennedy's name

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Speaker 1: on the air Monday. He was my ranger brother from

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01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: another mother. When we were stationed in Korea together with

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 1: the first fifteenth Field Artillery, Second Infantry Division. In two twelve,

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Speaker 1: he was killed in Afghanistan by a scumbag suicide bomber.

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Speaker 1: He left behind his wife and two two small children.

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Speaker 1: I think of him every Memorial Day and will never forget,

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Speaker 1: says Rangers lead the ways as I can say his

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Speaker 1: name on the air and semplify. His name is Ernie.

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Speaker 1: Let's shoot. It's it's our honor, Ernie. Please honor my

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Speaker 1: mother's uncle. Aviation radio man third Class Norman Roland Brissett

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Speaker 1: on Your Memorial Day Show. He was killed by the

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Speaker 1: atomic bomb in Hiroshima while he was being held as

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Speaker 1: a pow thirteen hundred feet from Crown Zero. He survived

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Speaker 1: the initial blast with one other pow and died thirteen

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Speaker 1: days later from radiation burns. He was only nineteen at

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Speaker 1: the time. I'm sure many people don't realize how many

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Speaker 1: American POWs were killed during that bombing. Could be an

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Speaker 1: interesting history segment on the show. We are not done.

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Speaker 1: We still have Braxton McCoy, we have we have much more.

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Speaker 1: On this Memorial Day Jesse Kelly Show, Bally, it is

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Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show on a Memorial Day, and it

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Speaker 1: is a day to honor the fallen reminder, though you

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Speaker 1: can enjoy yourself today, gather with family and friends, have fun,

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Speaker 1: it eats, some hot dogs, do your thing. Just make

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Speaker 1: sure you remember what the days about. It's about them,

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Speaker 1: It's about the ones we can't think. Frankly, maybe you're

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Speaker 1: a dog person that look. I wasn't sure if I'm

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Speaker 1: going to do this, but dogs really have done some

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Speaker 1: really awesome things in combat. And I don't know what

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Speaker 1: this dog did. We looked, I can't find it, but

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Speaker 1: Chips the dog in World War two Europe. For his

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Speaker 1: actions during the war, he was awarded the Distinguished Service Cross,

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Speaker 1: Silver Star in purple Heart. However, these awards were later

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Speaker 1: revoked due to an army policy preventing official commendation of animal.

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Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, he was posthumously awarded the Animals in

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Speaker 1: War in Peace Medal of Bravery. So whatever you did, Chips,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Good job. All right. This is a

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Speaker 1: Navy Cross citation for Clayton Leroy Roberts in Korea. The

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Speaker 1: President of the United States of America takes pride in

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Speaker 1: presenting the Navy Cross posthumously to Staff Sergeant Clayton Leroy Roberts.

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Speaker 1: United States Marine Corps for extraordinary heroism in connection with

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Speaker 1: military operations against an armed enemy of the United Nations

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Speaker 1: while serving as leader of a light machine gun squad

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Speaker 1: and Company B, first Battalion, First Marine's First Marine Division

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Speaker 1: in action against enemy aggressive forces in the Republic of

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Speaker 1: Korea on the night of the twenty seventh of October

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty, when a sudden devastating night assault by a

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Speaker 1: numerically superior and well concealed enemy force was launched on

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Speaker 1: the right squad position of his patoon, necessitating the shifting

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Speaker 1: of the remainder of the platoon to avoid encirclement. Sergeant

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Speaker 1: Roberts voluntarily remained in position with his machine gun in

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Speaker 1: order to cover the movement of the patoon and protect

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Speaker 1: several casualties in the vicinity of his gun. Despite the

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Speaker 1: tremendous danger from hostile small arms and automatic weapons firing

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Speaker 1: at close range, he steadfastly held his position, continuing to

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Speaker 1: fire into the face of the massed enemy while his

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Speaker 1: platoon took up new positions on the main line of

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Speaker 1: defense without further losses. When his position was finally overrun,

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Speaker 1: he still refused to give up the fight and engaging

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Speaker 1: the first swarm of enemy in hand to hand combat,

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Speaker 1: until overcome by sheer strength of numbers, he fell mortally wounded.

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Speaker 1: By his superb courage and indomitable fighting spirit, he saved

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Speaker 1: the lives of many members of his platoon and contributed

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Speaker 1: materially to the successful repulse of the hostile attack. His

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Speaker 1: staunch devotion to do in the face of insurmountable odds

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Speaker 1: reflects the highest credit upon Sergeant Roberts and the United

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Speaker 1: States Naval Service. He gave his life for his country. Again,

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Speaker 1: some of these you read these and you say to yourself,

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Speaker 1: how in the world does that gone not win the

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Speaker 1: middle of honor? And remember what they're talking about here

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Speaker 1: in Korea. When we got clear up close to the

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Speaker 1: Chosen reservoir and we dug in, we kind of discovered

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Speaker 1: at the end we kept getting intel, but they ignored

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01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: it that we were surrounded by hundreds of thousands, hundreds

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Speaker 1: of thousands of Chinese troops, just human waves. And at night,

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Speaker 1: the Chinese troops would amass close to our positions. Our

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Speaker 1: guys took these hilltop positions and you formed a perimeter,

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Speaker 1: and the Chinese would amass and they would blow bugles

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Speaker 1: and blow whistles as signals to each other of when

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Speaker 1: to go and when not to go, and they would

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Speaker 1: just send wave after wave of humans at you. Because

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Speaker 1: there were so many they didn't think they could possibly lose,

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Speaker 1: and because remember they were communists, so they didn't have

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Speaker 1: any value of human life. They would send a wave

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Speaker 1: armed with a weapon at our guys, and then they'd

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Speaker 1: send a second wave with no weapon, whose job it

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Speaker 1: was to pick up the weapon of all the people

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Speaker 1: who died in the first wave, and they would have

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Speaker 1: a wave behind all of them, whose job it was

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01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: to sit there and kill anybody who turned around and

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Speaker 1: ran back away. So the human waves didn't retreat. They

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Speaker 1: were waves. They kept coming. And it's at night. You're

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Speaker 1: this guy, you're dug in, it's freezing, it's pitch black,

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01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you are jarred loose by

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01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of bugles and whistles, and you're looking out.

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Speaker 1: Remember this is the mountains, this is not the streets.

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Speaker 1: There aren't street lights. You can't see, so we would

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Speaker 1: fire flares up into the air to illuminate a certain area.

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Speaker 1: You're freezing, it's loud, you don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: They fire off a flare. The flare pops off, and

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Speaker 1: you're looking at hundreds of people, often with bayonets, running

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Speaker 1: towards your position, and you just start firing. And in

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Speaker 1: the midst of all this, because other parts of your

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Speaker 1: position are already overrun, you have to move your platoon,

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Speaker 1: parts of your platoon have to move to make sure

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Speaker 1: you seal up any holes. You volunteer and you stay there.

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Speaker 1: And it's one thing to go through what I just described,

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Speaker 1: with the cold and the waves and the noise and

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Speaker 1: the guns and the bayonets and everything else. It's one

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Speaker 1: thing to do that. When you have someone by your side,

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Speaker 1: when you have a friend by your side who's going

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Speaker 1: to be there for you, it's one thing to do that.

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Speaker 1: It is another thing entirely. I've always I mean, I

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Speaker 1: admire all these but I've all admire these ones. It's

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Speaker 1: another thing entirely to do that when you're alone, and

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Speaker 1: not only alone, when you're alone on purpose, when you

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Speaker 1: say no, everyone else go, I'll stay behind, I'll die,

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Speaker 1: I'll give it up for you. And at the end

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Speaker 1: when he knew it, and he knew it was the end,

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01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: when you're surrounded and they're all around you and they're

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Speaker 1: stabbing you and shooting you, and you know it's the end.

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Speaker 1: You don't curl up in a ball, you don't cry,

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Speaker 1: You just decide no. No, I'm pulling out my hands,

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Speaker 1: a shovel, a knife, whatever I have, and I'm taking

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Speaker 1: as many people with me as I can. Clayton, Leroy, Roberts,

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Speaker 1: remember the name this. Those are the people we honor

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Speaker 1: on a day like today. No, those are the day.

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Speaker 1: Those are the people we honor. All right, I have

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Speaker 1: Braxton McCoy. Guy got blown up in Iraq and he

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Speaker 1: lost a couple of guys he knew over there, a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys. He wants their names read. He wants

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Speaker 1: them honored on this day. And we will do that

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Speaker 1: on this Memorial Day. And again, if you get and

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Speaker 1: I wanting to email the show anything you want it,

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01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: you know that's fine, then he's fine on the show.

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01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse Kelly show dot com. If you missed

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01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 1: any part of that Javier Mackey interview, obviously I know

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01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: that was that was a jaw dropper. We kept him

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01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: on for an hour walking us through someone's medal of

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Speaker 1: honor citation. We're gonna have that as part of the podcast,

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Speaker 1: and I think Chris is going to separate that out

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Speaker 1: as a separate podcast too, if you want to spread

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Speaker 1: that around for everybody. All right, Braxton McCoy. Next it

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Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show. And joining me now someone

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Speaker 1: else you probably already know from the show on this

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Speaker 1: Memorial Day, my friend Braxton McCoy. Braxton, before we get

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Speaker 1: into who you want to honor on this day, tell

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Speaker 1: people who you are. I'm just a horse trainer in Ottaho.

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01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 1: I spent a little time in the military and wrote

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01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: a book, and otherwise I'm just a dad and a

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01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 1: horse trainer. He wrote a book called The Glass Factory

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01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: because he got blown up and now he's a bonafide cowboy,

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01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: even though his beards pretty weak. But we're not going

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01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: to go into that today. We are going to go

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Speaker 1: into honoring the fallen though today. And he has a

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Speaker 1: couple of people he wants to tell us about. Maybe

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01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: you remember he told us about them last Memorial Day,

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01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: but most do not. Braxton, who gets honored today? Start?

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Speaker 1: Adam cann is a marine. He's a dog handler that

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Speaker 1: was with us and then Lieutenant Colonel Mike McLoughlin was

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01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: out there we were, we were securing, we were providing

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01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: security for some Marines that we were working on recruiting

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01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 1: Iraqi police officers, and Sartain Can came out to help

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01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: with he was a dog handler, and came out, why

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Speaker 1: did the Marines have dog handlers? First of all? Why

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01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: did I have him? Brackfast boy? I think it goes

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Speaker 1: all the way back to Vietnam. But the way we

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01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 1: used them, you know, not dog hammer. It's I to

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01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 1: be speaking of school here, but the way they used

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01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 1: them over there, at least in my time, was for

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01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 1: bomb detection and also some crowd control stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: And this dog, Bruno was his name. He Adam's dog,

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Speaker 1: Certain Can's dog. He located this suicide bomber in the

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Speaker 1: crowd and grabbed a hold of him, and then the

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Speaker 1: bomb detonated and U killed Adam and Carl Mack and

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Speaker 1: the you know, it's it stills terrible to think this way,

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Speaker 1: but it's um really the actions of Adam and of

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01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 1: certain Can and uh Bruno's probably saved a lot of

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Speaker 1: American lives because if a suicide bomber had got inside

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01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: the building and detonated, it had been a whole bunch

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Speaker 1: worse at least on Americans. So heroes on multiple levels.

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01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: And I think back to you know, I like to

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01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 1: bag on officers a lot, for good reason most of

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01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: the time. But colonel, Colonel mac you know, the fact

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Speaker 1: that he'd be out there on the line with a

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01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: bunch of e fours, fives, sixes, says, I mean, just

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01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: there's to a military guy. He really couldn't say anything

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01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: bigger about the man's character. He you know, he could

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01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: have been just like every other officer not been out there,

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01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: but he was out there, and he was he was

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01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 1: he was just like that man. He When we got

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Speaker 1: to Romandi, it was in O five. It was pretty hot,

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01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,639
Speaker 1: we were we were pretty dang busy. Hold on quick,

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Speaker 1: hold on posible, quick brax Romandi, Iraq. The name is

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01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: probably vaguely familiar to a lot of people. Explain what

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01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Explain what the deal is? Why are you even there?

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Speaker 1: Why they sitting Braxton McCoy. Well, Ramadi was What really

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01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: happened with Ramadi was the Battle of Fallujah. So Ramadi

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01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: to college town, kind of the first big city between

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Speaker 1: Syria and Baghdad, and it's the college town. And if so,

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Speaker 1: in order of succession, would go Ramadi, Fallujah, Baghdad if

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Speaker 1: you were traveling from west to east. So when the

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Speaker 1: Battle of Fallujah happened in two thousand and four, the

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01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: Marines in the army kind of wiped out a lot

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Speaker 1: of the insurgency, but a bunch of the others sort

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Speaker 1: of shuffled over to Ramadi. So in oh five, Fallujah

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Speaker 1: had calmed down a little bit and Ramadi had kind

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Speaker 1: of gotten super like pretty busy. I mean, it was

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Speaker 1: just daily gunfights and it was it was it was

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01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 1: a health of place to be, to be honest, it

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Speaker 1: was it was busy. And so when we got there,

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Speaker 1: I was on a PFD team at the time and

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Speaker 1: are off personal Secure Detail. So it's like the guy

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Speaker 1: that goes around and tried to keep majors and colonels

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Speaker 1: from getting themselves killed and maybe a US dignitary if

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Speaker 1: they come over and kind of like the military's idea

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Speaker 1: of a secret service sort of except for what west

1475
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: training and way less of a budget. And when we

1476
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: got over there, the upper echelon officer wise was just

1477
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: really not interested in going out and doing much because

1478
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 1: it was just that hot. And but Krolmack was never

1479
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: like that. He ended up, developed his own PSD team,

1480
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 1: and he was out doing basically the job of some

1481
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 1: other people. He just wanted to be in the fight

1482
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: all the time. And I think it shows the fact

1483
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: that he was out there with us, that it wasn't

1484
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: just bluster, you know, he was always really out there.

1485
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: And I know, for like the average civilian, it's probably

1486
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: hard to understand the gap between an E five and

1487
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 1: a lieutenant colonel, but is so far as in terms

1488
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: of authority in the military, but it is a tremendous gap.

1489
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 1: So for him to just be willing to put his

1490
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 1: hisself out there like that, it just it speaks just

1491
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 1: incredible volumes about it. And I'm a father of four

1492
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 1: now and this one gets me sometime. I sorry, um uh,

1493
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: Colonel Mack was about my age at the time, you know,

1494
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: about the age I am now at the time, and

1495
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: he had I think three daughters, and man, I just

1496
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: the the amount of courage it would take, knowing what

1497
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: you have at home and what you were really putting

1498
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,600
Speaker 1: on the line is just I mean, it's baffling me.

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01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 1: I was a nineteen year old kid, you know, I

1500
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 1: didn't have hardly anything to lose in comparison to this guy.

1501
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 1: So to see to see someone behave that way, it's

1502
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: I mean I think about it every day. I mean

1503
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 1: every single day. I think about what he was willing

1504
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: to do and it is and I hope one day

1505
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm half the man that guy was. That's what they

1506
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 1: give up, everybody, that's what they give up. Three daughters

1507
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 1: will never get to walk him down the aisle, won't

1508
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: ever get to bounce his grandkids on his lap. Went

1509
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: out there and gave it all for all of us.

1510
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 1: So that's what it's about. Braxton McCoy, My brothers templified,

1511
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thank you for telling us about these heroes.

1512
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: Thanks brother Doubles. And look, I I hate to keep

1513
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 1: saying it that way, but it's true. They gave up

1514
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: so much, and that's why we always that's why we

1515
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 1: want to do this show every single year from Memorial

1516
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Day because it is about something more and it's about

1517
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 1: what they gave up. Lieutenant Peter Kawalski March twenty second,

1518
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, Germany, Dick Passalnot July seventh, nineteen sixty eight.

1519
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: Vietnam Captain Jeffrey Allen Ray December twenty second, nineteen eighty two,

1520
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:06,839
Speaker 1: West Germany died in a plane crash. David Gray Prentice

1521
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 1: June fourteenth, nineteen seventy two, weeks left on his tour.

1522
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: First Lieutenant Chris Bull Air Force October thirteenth, nineteen eighty seven,

1523
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: South Korea in an accident. Charles Castler, Union Army in

1524
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: the died in Mississippi. Raymond Buchan July two thousand and seven, Iraq.

1525
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 1: Raymond W. Cunningham Army November fourteenth, nineteen forty two died

1526
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 1: in a Japanese pow camp. Guess what he survived, but

1527
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 1: Tom the death March I told you about earlier in

1528
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 1: the show. William Fletcher, France, World War Two Corporal John J.

1529
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 1: John G. Joyce February twenty fourth, nineteen sixty nine, Vietnam,

1530
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: killed within a week of deployment. Lance Corporal Danny Morris

1531
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Iraqi Freedom Pfc. BOYD Kim Ray

1532
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 1: September seventeenth, nineteen forty four, or Northern Italy. Jeremy Wise,

1533
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Navy Seal died December thirty, two thousand and nine. Afghanistan.

1534
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 1: Ben Wise January fifteenth, two thousand and twelve, Afghanistan. Edward A.

1535
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: Schroeder August third, two thousand and five, died from an

1536
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: ied Lieutenant journal John B. Tilou June twenty sixth, nineteen

1537
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:24,599
Speaker 1: forty five for Mosa. Corporal James Milio, USMC, two thousand

1538
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: and three, Mark Evan, Corporal Mark Evan, Marine Corps, April third,

1539
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Lance Corporal one Venagas USMC, April seventh,

1540
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Lance Corporal Ryan may And USMC

1541
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 1: December twenty first, two thousand and six. Lance Corporal Ryan Burgess, USMC,

1542
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: December twenty first, two thousand and six. On and on

1543
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: it goes. I will get to as many more names

1544
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 1: as I can possibly get to in our final segment

1545
01:39:52,800 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 1: here as we honor the fallen on Memorial Day. This

1546
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Memorial Day. Final

1547
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 1: segment of this Memorial Day special show. Hope you have

1548
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 1: had a wonderful day today with family and friends. Remember

1549
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:16,799
Speaker 1: that's allowed. It's not what the day's about, but it's allowed,

1550
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 1: and the fallen would want you to have that. But

1551
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 1: I hope you also have taken the time I know

1552
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 1: you have to honor the fallen to remember the true

1553
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 1: meaning behind this day I'm going to read just a

1554
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 1: couple more of these before we get ready to sign

1555
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 1: off here, and just a heads up after I say

1556
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 1: that's all, that's normally the end of the show. Tonight,

1557
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little different. I'm gonna say that's all,

1558
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to play taps in its entirety,

1559
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: and it's about a minute long. You have your own life.

1560
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 1: It's not my business to tell you what to do.

1561
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 1: If you would stay for the entire minute and take

1562
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: that minute to dwell on all who we've lost, I

1563
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 1: think that would probably be a very appropriate way to

1564
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: sign off on Memorial Day, probably an extremely appropriate way

1565
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 1: to honor them. No, let's go, let's do another Medal

1566
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: of honor Jack William Kelso, Marine Korea. He was eighteen

1567
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,640
Speaker 1: years old. This is nineteen fifty two. The President of

1568
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: the United States and the name of Congress takes pride

1569
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 1: in presenting the Medal of Honor posthumously to Private first

1570
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:25,600
Speaker 1: Class Jack William Kelso, United States Marine Corps, for conspicuous

1571
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 1: gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life, above

1572
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:30,640
Speaker 1: and beyond the call of duty. On the second of

1573
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,560
Speaker 1: October nineteen fifty two. Serving as a rifleman for Company I,

1574
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 1: third Battalion, seventh Marine's first Marine Division, and action against

1575
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:43,480
Speaker 1: enemy aggressor forces in Korea, when both the platoon commander

1576
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 1: and the platoon sergeant became casualties during the defense of

1577
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 1: a vital outpost against the numerically superior enemy force attacking

1578
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 1: at night. Remember all that Korea stuff. Under the cover

1579
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 1: of intense small arms, grenade and mortar fire, Private first

1580
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,719
Speaker 1: Class Kelso gravely exposed himself to the hail of enemy

1581
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 1: fire in a determined effort to reorganize the unit and

1582
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,759
Speaker 1: repel the on rushing attackers. Remember this gets eighteen years old.

1583
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: Forced to seek cover along with four other Marines and

1584
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 1: a nearby bunker, which immediately came under attack, he unhesitantly,

1585
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: unhesitantly picked up an enemy grenade which landed in the shelter,

1586
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 1: rushed out into the open, and hurled it back at

1587
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 1: the enemy. Although painfully wounded when the grenade exploded as

1588
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: it left his hand, and again forced to seek the

1589
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: protection of the bunker when hostile fire became more intensified,

1590
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,799
Speaker 1: Private first Class Kelso refused to remain in his position

1591
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 1: of comparative safety and moved out into the fire swept

1592
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: area to return the enemy fire, thereby permitting the pinned

1593
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 1: down marines and the bunker to escape mortally wounded, while

1594
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,799
Speaker 1: providing covering fire for his comrades. Private first Class Kelso

1595
01:42:56,920 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 1: by his valiant fighting spirit, aggressive determined nation, and self

1596
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: sacrificing efforts in behalf of others, served to inspire all

1597
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: who observed him. His heroic actions sustain and enhance the

1598
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: highest traditions of US Naval service, and he gallantly gave

1599
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 1: his life for his country. Air Force Cross, President of

1600
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: the United States, authored by Title nine, Section eighty seven

1601
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 1: forty two United States Code, takes pride and presented the

1602
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: Air Force Cross posthumously to Airman first Class Charles Douglas King,

1603
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 1: United States Air Force for extraordinary heroism in connection with

1604
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 1: military operations against an opposing force as a pair of

1605
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: rescue Specialist and an H three E rescue helicopter of

1606
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 1: Detachment one fortieth Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron, third Air

1607
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:51,479
Speaker 1: Rescue and Recovery Group nincome Fanom Royal, a Royal Thai

1608
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 1: Air Base, Thailand, an action near Ban Lathama, Mahaksia District

1609
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 1: in Laos on the twenty fifth December nineteen sixty eight.

1610
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,759
Speaker 1: On that date, Airman King was aboard a helicopter engaged

1611
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 1: in the recovery of a downed US Air Force pilot

1612
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 1: from an extremely hostile area. With complete disregard for his

1613
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 1: own safety, Airman King voluntarily descended on a rescue hoist

1614
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 1: more than one hundred feet to the ground to aid

1615
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 1: the injured pilot. Once on the ground, he carried the

1616
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 1: rescue device to the pilot, freed him from the parachute,

1617
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:28,000
Speaker 1: secured him to the rescue device, and then used the

1618
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 1: cable to cable hoist to drag the pilot to a

1619
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: point near the hovering aircraft. Suddenly, enemy soldiers closed in

1620
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,719
Speaker 1: and directed automatic weapons fire at Airman King, the injured pilot,

1621
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 1: and the helicopter. Though wounded, Airman King, in an extraordinary

1622
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: display of courage and valor, placed his comrades lives above

1623
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,759
Speaker 1: his own by refusing to continue their exposure to murderous

1624
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 1: enemy fire Without taking time to secure himself to the

1625
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: hoist cable. He radioed that he was hit and for

1626
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:02,240
Speaker 1: the helicopter to pull away. Airmond King made this selfless

1627
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,799
Speaker 1: decision with the full realization that once the helicopter departed,

1628
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 1: he would be alone, wounded, and surrounded by armed hostile forces.

1629
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: Through his professional, dedication, aggressiveness, and extraordinary heroism, Airmond King

1630
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: reflected the highest credit upon himself and the United States

1631
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 1: Air Force. Picture that alone in Laos, knowingly making yourself alone.

1632
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 1: You're down there to rescue somebody. Sorry, I'm under fire,

1633
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 1: I'm hurt, I'm scared. I know I'm going to die.

1634
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 1: No helicopter, you save yourself. I'm going to stay back here.

1635
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say one final thing on this Memorial Day

1636
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 1: before we sign off. There are countless, countless people, countless

1637
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 1: people you probably know who have given their lives for

1638
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: this country. Honor them today, and remember you're not just

1639
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 1: honoring them for their sake and remembering their names and

1640
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 1: remembering their deeds for their sake. This is part of

1641
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: protecting the future of your country. Showing the next generation

1642
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 1: that that kind of selfless service and duty and sacrifice,

1643
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 1: showing them that it is honored, is worth something. It's

1644
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 1: worth a great something. I sit down with my sons

1645
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 1: and I try to come up with the words. I

1646
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: want to make them be the kind of guy who

1647
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:38,719
Speaker 1: tells the helicopter, go away. I'm going to sign out

1648
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 1: of here, go away, you save yourself. Let's all be

1649
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 1: like that, all right, let's all be like that on

1650
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: this Memorial Day. Let's honor the fallen. So again, I'm

1651
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 1: gonna sign off here and then i'm gonna play taps,

1652
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 1: and it's entirety as we honor these men, that's all.

1653
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 1: M