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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hello, It's Jackie Gildschneider and Jen Besler. We are two

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Speaker 2: Jersey Jays. Hi, guys, I cannot believe that it is November.

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Speaker 1: Right since we are here in New Jersey. One of

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Speaker 1: the good things is these is the leaves changing. It's beautiful,

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Speaker 1: it really is.

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Speaker 2: I know, I feel like I'm getting really hokey as

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Speaker 2: i get older, but I drive down the street and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it's just so pretty.

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Speaker 1: It is it is, it is. That's one of the

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Speaker 1: good That's the news about not living in Florida, which is,

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Speaker 1: I know, I love the seasons.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever be able to leave. Like

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Speaker 2: I went to college in Boston and it was very,

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Speaker 2: very cold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, I hope my kids go somewhere that's

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Speaker 2: a little bit warmer, but I still want them.

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Speaker 1: To have the seasons. Yeah, and I do love fall,

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Speaker 1: but I can do without winter. Oh it's so cold.

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Speaker 1: The worst maybe it's snowbird. But the good news is

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Speaker 1: because fall is in fact here, so is drummer leaves. Well. Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: I know, I love Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: I didn't always love Thanksgiving either, but I love Thanksgivting.

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Speaker 1: Now it's funny because, oh, by the way, you guys

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Speaker 1: were talking about Thanksgiving today, which I'm really excited about.

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Speaker 1: I actually my kids recently before we even decided to

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Speaker 1: do this episode on Thanksgiving, I guess, we were in

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Speaker 1: the car and talking about it. My niece was there too,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, you guys excited for

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and I want to say that my son is like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, yes, the best day of the year.

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Speaker 1: And Danielle, my niece, chimed in, and Rachel chimed in,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, makes me so unbelievably happy that they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you like, you're an empty nester, so to

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Speaker 2: have your kids back home now they live in this city,

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Speaker 2: so they like do they sleep over though Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't have that full house again, and

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Speaker 2: like the smells of the season and just like how

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Speaker 2: it's not cold, but it's not warm, and it's just

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Speaker 2: so festive and everyone's together. The thing is now, as

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Speaker 2: I get older, it makes me sad sometimes, like the

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Speaker 2: happiness is mixed with sadness and I wish that it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: But I like when I think back on old Thanksgivings,

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Speaker 2: I missed my grandparents. I'm sad about my parents getting older.

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Speaker 2: I get nervous. Is this my dad's last night? I

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Speaker 2: hope my dad's not listening, But like I always think, like,

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Speaker 2: is this my dad's last Thanksgiving? Is this my father

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Speaker 2: in law's last Thanksgiving? I get nervous and sad, and

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Speaker 2: I wish I didn't let those thoughts come in, but

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Speaker 2: they do, And I think I think that's probably the

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Speaker 2: case for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: We always my in laws have passed, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving was for us. There's so many traditions, and one

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Speaker 1: of them was that my father in law made every

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Speaker 1: year this antipast. So my father in law was Jewish

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Speaker 1: and my mother in law is Italian, and my father

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Speaker 1: in law was in love with his mother in law,

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Speaker 1: so she used to make this antipast and every year

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Speaker 1: he used to make it, and none of us really

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Speaker 1: ate it. It was huge. It was like all these

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Speaker 1: at one point I think he even put like sardines

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Speaker 1: or something thing. And to this day now we make it.

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Speaker 1: Jeff and Rachel make it. Oh well, I can't say

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Speaker 2: It's a traditions, all right, So what are your other traditions?

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Speaker 2: What was it like for you growing up?

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Speaker 1: So I was thinking about this, Jack, I don't have

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Speaker 1: that many memories of Thanksgiving growing up. I really don't,

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Speaker 1: Like I was thinking back now. I mean, my life

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Speaker 1: but as maybe because as a kid it wasn't that's special.

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't like it is now. Now it's like

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Speaker 1: this huge part of how many people do do you host?

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Speaker 1: My host? Okay? And how many people? A lot? Depending

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Speaker 1: some years is more than more than others. I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we started hosting. You know, my Thanksgivings as

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Speaker 1: Very like split up.

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Speaker 2: so it's like weird to me, like it always felt

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Speaker 1: So my parents were very split in the middle of course.

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Speaker 1: And what about growing up though? Were you growing up?

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Speaker 2: She was always there, but always like we never going directed, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: We always had all four of my grandparents and my

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Speaker 2: we always had a very full house. Yeah, because I

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Speaker 2: did lose one of my cousins when I was in

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Speaker 2: my twenties. Yeah, he had a heart attack.

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Speaker 1: My gosh, awful.

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Speaker 2: But I had four cousins that were right around my age,

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Speaker 2: and we just had the best time together exactly. And

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Speaker 2: I was always, you know, my brother, we always had

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Speaker 1: I had the what I do remember the Thanksgivings when

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Speaker 1: just both Robin and myself. That was just the best.

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Speaker 2: Like That's one thing I'm so grateful for is even

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Speaker 2: though I don't speak to my sister, my kids and

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Speaker 1: Going to have dinner with my parents and my cousins.

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Speaker 1: Their cousins are coming, Like.

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Speaker 2: They really do love each other, but there's a there's

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Speaker 1: So it's nice that you guys were able to. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I it is, and as they get older,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so we were all split up for so

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Speaker 2: year that we weren't with my parents. And then in

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Speaker 2: recent years it just got too hard for our parents

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Speaker 1: It's a lot for them to host, just like I've

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Speaker 1: had this like memory of my mother in law and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel bad for Jeff. Thanks, thanks,

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Speaker 1: thanks for saying it. Yeah, now it's good. You just

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Speaker 1: ruined my whole Thanksgiving. No, but I just I miss that,

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Speaker 2: it's really nice. And Evan's sister and my brother and.

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Speaker 1: So it's nice, you know. Good.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you one really funny, okay Thanksgiving story. Okay,

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Speaker 2: when I was in law school, I had a boyfriend

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Speaker 2: And their mom super super warm, very warm. And my

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Speaker 1: She said, I'm always going to be your best girl, right.

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Speaker 2: And my mom looked at me and she was like,

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Speaker 1: And she repeated that line to me like for years afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so I know.

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Speaker 2: But I's a perfect Thanksgiving story. Yeah, And he was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously what I'll say to my son. At

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Speaker 1: a family uh text whatever, a group text, and I

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because I'm so happy to ask them

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Speaker 1: It's like their favorite Like, what do you have any

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Speaker 1: like funny things that you remember, and I got like flooded.

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Speaker 1: Oh tell me something that was really cool. Well, some

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Speaker 1: one that said, when you guys were like where the kids.

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Speaker 1: The kids were always in the basement hanging out doing

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Speaker 2: to day that the best fried turkeys are at Popeyes.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, this is Thanksgiving. Wasn't that like

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Speaker 2: My dad will do whatever he wants to do, which

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Speaker 2: didn't want to see anybody.

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00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 1: Especially see my dad and my mom too.

434
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: But it was like everybody people from high school, even

435
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: my parents, my dad, you know, like they wouldn't say anything,

436
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: but like I could tell that they could tell, you know,

437
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: Like I just always felt very bad and I felt

438
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: terrible about myself. And that Thanksgiving was the only time

439
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: I ever like really binge. I remember just eating a

440
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: pie and I couldn't stop, and I was just eating

441
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: the pie and eating the pie, and I was like

442
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: fuck it, and I just kept eating the pie and

443
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: I canceled all my plans. I didn't have that many

444
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: friends in high school. I had a really hard time

445
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: in high school, but I did have some plans that weekend,

446
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: and I canceled all them.

447
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: I could literally couldn't even button my pants and I

448
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: felt sick to my stomach.

449
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: And you know, even in recovery, Thanksgiving is one of

450
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: those holidays where I feel this pressure to eat more

451
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: than I want to eat. So it's always it's always

452
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 2: been a pretty loaded holiday from a food perspective, just me.

453
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: But I do enjoy now being.

454
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: Able to eat everything and taste everything, and I give myself,

455
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: you know, of course, permission to eat everything that I want,

456
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: but I also.

457
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: Try to stop. Well, we get full, it's because you're

458
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: and I hate this, because we have. We start eating

459
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: appetizers and whatever, and then by the time dinner is served,

460
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 1: there's been so much picking and that like we sit

461
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: down for I don't know, maybe forty minutes and it's

462
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: been so much prep, days of prep, and then so full,

463
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: so sick, bring out dessert anyway. And then usually what

464
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,199
Speaker 1: happens is the adult and I can't believe I'm saying that,

465
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: but I mean the grandparents they leave now like everybody's

466
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 1: still sort of hanging out and they don't sleep over, no,

467
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: but then we all start eating again. Usually it's like,

468
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: but what is.

469
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 2: It like on ozebic? If you don't mind me asking

470
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: you out eat ozempic.

471
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean honestly, like the level of fullness that

472
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: you get isn't like, oh God, I'm gonna die, Like it's.

473
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: Not I don't know fullness like that. I never eat

474
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: to that level, which is like a mental thing.

475
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know the science behind it.

476
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: But there are times when I like don't even like

477
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: ozempics mozembic, Like I don't even feel it. It's like

478
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, but especially when I'm

479
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: like looking forward to a meal, like even like tonight,

480
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: we're going out for my niece's birthday, and so just

481
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: like any other I guess person that doesn't like I

482
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 1: really won't eat that much during the day to day

483
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: because I want to have like a great appetite. We're

484
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: going to this I don't know, special dumpling place that

485
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: she wants to go to. But are you hungry and

486
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: you're not eating or you just don't even feel the hungry? No,

487
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: I do, Oh I feel hunger. It's I can't. I mean,

488
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: it's such a good question. I wish I had the answer.

489
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: But yes, I am absolutely able to eat way more

490
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: than I usually would enjoy it more. But Also, it's

491
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: funny because Jeff got on recently what he got on ozmpic.

492
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: We always say ozempic, right, that's what that's the catch

493
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. And yeah, and he said to me,

494
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm gonna go off it because I want

495
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: to have a really good appetite for Thanksgiving. He's never

496
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: had a Thanksgiving on it, so which, yeah, you know,

497
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: go for it. He tolerated, He's tolerated very well. He

498
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: hasn't had he's lost like he needed to lose some

499
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: weight because he just has tried everything and crazy diets.

500
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: And I just was worried because he's he's short, you know,

501
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: and he is just this big belly and it's kind

502
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: of dangerous when you're short, I think, but really short

503
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: or really tall, right, and his grandfather had heart disease.

504
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: So anyway, because he's not a vain person, he wasn't like,

505
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to justify it to each through.

506
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: I know, yeah I don't, but whatever, I mean, I

507
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: don't agree with it when you don't.

508
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: My my issue is with the unregulated use, but that's

509
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: for another time. Like if he's being if he needed

510
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: it and for health reasons and he's watching himself and

511
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: he was overweight, then go for it.

512
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: So he I don't know, he's lost like probably maybe

513
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: eight pounds. Those we love it. It's just it's a

514
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: very listen, we won't go too deep into this, but yeah,

515
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: but everybody, when I find when people get on it,

516
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: they're like, it's a very strange thing to not have

517
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: your brain so preoccupied with food or to like get satiated.

518
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: And I, well, he did. It's a different thing. I

519
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: always had eating disorder, not always, but in and out

520
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: of eating disorders, but like I never knew what it

521
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: was like to just not be in the mood, Yeah,

522
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: to like push like alright, I'm done. I don't need that.

523
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: I mean, there are moments where I'm like, God, I

524
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: could get rid of all of this. I could stop

525
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: worrying about everything, sure, you know, but then I would

526
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: never do it personally, because number one, that's not the way,

527
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: that's not the relationship with food that I want for myself.

528
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: But also the knowing that I'd have to be on

529
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: it forever and that without it I would gain so

530
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: much weight it would make me crazy mentally.

531
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: I know. So I get that. I fully get that. Yeah, anyway, Okay,

532
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: let's transition. Do you shop? Do you go out that

533
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: night shopping? So we used to not, well, that's not true.

534
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: I guess it was still No, it was morning. But

535
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: we used to get up on Thanksgiving and it used

536
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: to be way colder. Whatever this is about global warming

537
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: or whatever, but it used to be freezing on Thanksgiving

538
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: here in New Jersey. And we would get up, especially

539
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: my cousin Debbie and I, at like four o'clock in

540
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: the morning for Black Friday. We would yes, we would

541
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: bundle up, we stop Dunkin Donuts. It was a lot

542
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: of times it was four of us. I have two

543
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: cousins and would be my sister and my two and

544
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: we would go stand online. And this is at the

545
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: time where like we had little ones, so like we'd

546
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: stand online at Toys r Us and waiting to get

547
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: in and then oh, Jackie, it was so much fun.

548
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it wasn't when we were freezing,

549
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: but I have such great memories of it. Like Toys

550
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: r Us is not even around anymore, which breaks my heart.

551
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: But you know, it was the best and you get

552
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: the yes and you'd get into that toy store and

553
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: everything have let's say like a yellow tag and two

554
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: for one, and you felt like you were I know.

555
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: It was so fun, you know, Formonica.

556
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: I used to stick the kids in when they were

557
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: really little, you know, so they were all really close

558
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: in age.

559
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: They were only two years apart.

560
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: So when they were like four and two, I used

561
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: to take them to the one in Paramus right so

562
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: near where jen Aiden lives. And there was a huge

563
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: choice of us and I'd have two in the wagon

564
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: right and then two like.

565
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Walking with me.

566
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: And I used to let them pick out like a

567
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: few gifts each for Hankah, and it was just the funnest.

568
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: I never like four hours, oh my god, and your

569
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: little kid comes back in like I would want to

570
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: go into the doll section. Now, Rachel, of course was

571
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: never into dolls, right, she was always into like, you know,

572
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: I don't know, different, and I wanted her because I

573
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: was so into baby dolls. And I would go into

574
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: the doll section and like you're you know, you're inner,

575
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: little girl all comes out and I just, I don't know,

576
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it, loved it, loved it,

577
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: like I don't know.

578
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: That was toy stores.

579
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: They're so great, you know, toy stores and you know

580
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: what else I miss video stores?

581
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: Really. I remember the smell of.

582
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: Video store, well sort of Blockbuster. There was this one

583
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: on Staten Islands that we used to go to. My

584
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: dad and I used to go every week, right, and

585
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: it was called Selective Video. And I remember looking I

586
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: used to look at the dirty covers.

587
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like and there was this movie spring Break.

588
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: Do you remember that movie spring Break where they went

589
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: to Fort Lauderdale And on the cover there was like

590
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: a girl in a bikini and her body was stretched

591
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: out on the sand and like there was little figurines

592
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: of all the guys walking on her body.

593
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: And I used to think it was like porn. I

594
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: loved it.

595
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: I used to look at like the porky'st cover and

596
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: like I thought it was like porn.

597
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love the smell of a video So I

598
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: love going in there because I love like it in

599
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: the candy and the boxes. Yeah, that was your night,

600
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: Like like are listening to do or don't remember that?

601
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: But that was like TV simpler time.

602
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: God, everything was so much simpler and no phones and

603
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: like the kids know, like the concept of the fact

604
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: that we didn't have phones when we were growing up,

605
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: but like how.

606
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: Beautiful and even just from then to now, like the

607
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: times that we would go to toys r us. Now

608
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: everything is online. We don't get up. We shot, we

609
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: try to get out there, but even getting out there

610
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because we know that we could something about

611
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: the fact that we could be home and on our

612
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: computer and on getting Amazon Prime. It's like and it

613
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: just took away. It takes away this. I know.

614
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: It makes me worry, like there's so many beautiful, real

615
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: life things that are being missed. Yeah, that are just online.

616
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: This is like a very glum sad. No, no, it's amazing. Listen,

617
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: you're alive, you're breathing. It's thank god.

618
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: Hey, now you're.

619
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Having family over for Thanksgiving. I have all four of

620
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: my in laws, I have my four healthy kids.

621
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Like, it's amazing. Do you guys do I like Black

622
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: Friday because you're also thinking about the next celebration, which

623
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: is whatever Christmas?

624
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: Like I am that jew who absolutely loves Christmas music.

625
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. Oh my god, you put me you

626
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: tarn a candle and put on some Christmas music too.

627
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't cry at a Folders's commercial. I love it.

628
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I love Christmas specials. I love Christmas. I love fireplaces,

629
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: I love Christmas trees. I love driving around my neighbor

630
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: looking at the lights. Yep, I love all of it.

631
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: I love a friends giving. Yes, I love my friends

632
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: around the holidays.

633
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: I love being cozy. Yeah, I love all of it.

634
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: I do too. Yeah.

635
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: So I guess even with technology and online and social media.

636
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: There is there is still beautiful you know moments.

637
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: But I do think that it's a particularly hard time

638
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: with social media for people who are lonely, who maybe

639
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: don't have the family. But we'll do a loneliness episode

640
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: one day, because I think that's an epidemic that really

641
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: needs to be addressed. But I can't imagine like you

642
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: and I having these wonderful thanksgivings. Yours are bigger than mine.

643
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: Mine are still, you know, super special. But like for

644
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: people who have access to seeing what everybody else is

645
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: doing and don't have that family must be very difficult.

646
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I love is

647
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: that somebody's always bringing someone, so there's always someone who

648
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: hasn't been here before. And like this year, Zach is

649
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: bringing one of his friends from law school. But the

650
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: kids also either they have a boyfriend or a girlfriend

651
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's fun to have like that person

652
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: come back again and like join just somebody else, because

653
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, you get like you're looking at it through

654
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: somebody else's eyes kind of. And my family is nuts

655
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: and completely over the top and loud, and I think

656
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: that it's fun and funny. Yeah to be around. Yeah,

657
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's nice. Do you remember that story? I

658
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: think it was Thanksgiving?

659
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, but where the old lady

660
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: sent the Thanksgiving invite to the wrong number to this kid,

661
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: and the kid said, you sent it to the wrong number,

662
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: But I'd love to come. And it's been like a decade,

663
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: and who's been going to her house every year?

664
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: I have it. I think it was Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's

665
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: the most beautiful. I love it be Christmas, but I

666
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: think it is Thanksgiving. I always have Thanksgiving. I was

667
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: in both. My friend Lane and I both invite my

668
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: We had a friend who passed from ovarian cancer quite

669
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and her husband also passed unexpectedly

670
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: when she was sick of a heart attack. So they

671
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: had two kids, Oh wow, who and then at that

672
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: point raised by their grandparents, who I'm very close to anyway,

673
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: So this was a dear friend of ours, and so

674
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: we always have them their grandparents and the boys always stop.

675
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: I always want them to say, but they always have

676
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: like reservations in the city. So but like every Thanksgiving,

677
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't get to see them a lot, so we

678
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: get to see them and it's just like special. It's

679
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: just nice. It's like my whole family now knows them,

680
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: and it's just things like you know, like I guess

681
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: it's just like everything else goes away. I feel like,

682
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so happy we are talking about this.

683
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: It makes me excited for it. I know, I do.

684
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: I love it. I really really.

685
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: It reminds me that I have to put in my order.

686
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: Oh god, looking, but it's late this year. It's the

687
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: very end of November.

688
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

689
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: Last year, I remember on Black Friday, I took Alexus

690
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: to get her ears pierced.

691
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: And because she really wanted a second hole, and.

692
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll get some piercings too, So I

693
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: have You're so funny.

694
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: You have like this rocktership.

695
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: Oh I want my entire back covert and tattoos. By

696
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: the way, yes, I'm actively thinking about my guys.

697
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: So much.

698
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: So I've eight of them on my back and I

699
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: only let myself get one a year, otherwise I will like,

700
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: I'll Pete Davidson the hell and myself. But I although

701
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: he's getting his removed, my getting like that, and I

702
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: love they're so addictive. So I'm actively thinking about my

703
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: next one send ideas.

704
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: But so I was like, all right, I'll get I'll

705
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: get my ears pierced.

706
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's because I'm an old

707
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: fuddy duddy or what, but like I got so, I

708
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: got a third hole in one ear and a fourth

709
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: hole in the other, and both of them like just

710
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: did not work out. They were so painful, and now

711
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: they are both ciss to look. They're like big white.

712
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: I know I have to get them like taken out,

713
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: like I have to get them. I mean, like they

714
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: closed up like you never saying listen, dude, oh you're old.

715
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: I know this is such a this is like an aside,

716
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: but you and I have got to at some point

717
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of the tattoo thing. No one

718
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: can explain it to me. I look at my sister

719
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: and my cousin, I'm like, why do you have one? Oh?

720
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: Not one? No, you do. I had my eyelids, my eyeliner.

721
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Now you have that one. No, I took it off

722
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: a long time ago. I had them when I was separated.

723
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: You guys that I'm not sure. Okay, No, I didn't

724
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: mean to blow up your spot and you can. Doesn't matter.

725
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: But I had one, a really stupid one that when

726
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: Jeff and I were separated and I had this boyfriend

727
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: and we were wasted in Miami and I got this tattoo.

728
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: And it's it's really not a good story. I don't

729
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: even know that. I kind of I'd like to be

730
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: an open book. It was a really really stupid move.

731
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: I just let's just leave it there for now. Maybe

732
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: we'll cover that another time. But anyway, that's removed. But

733
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I almost got it. Whatever, I've

734
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: never been into tattoos, but I don't get what is

735
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: the well.

736
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 2: I didn't get my first one until I was thirty eight,

737
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: and then I've gotten one like almost.

738
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Every year since. All right, sorry, so all right, so

739
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: we digress. So Black Friday.

740
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: I do love shopping on Black Friday, but I don't

741
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: love crowds.

742
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,919
Speaker 1: I love crowds, I don't love it. Like when you're

743
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: hot and you brought your jacket and it's like it's on,

744
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: it's off, you're sick of it whatever. But at the beginning,

745
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: I love it because I love like being in the

746
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: source with the Christmas used to playing like and I

747
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: love a deal.

748
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember in college the Macy's near me

749
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: used to make the most festive, like everything was just

750
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 2: like red velvet and.

751
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Smelled like pumpkin. Yes, oh god, I used to.

752
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: When I would get homesick in college, I would go

753
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: over to the Maces and just like stroll around and

754
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: like feel cozy.

755
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I love that. I love the Maces in

756
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: New York City used to work right across the street

757
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: at holiday time. That was also very cool. I know,

758
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: I love the holidays in New York. You know, so yeah,

759
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: so Black Friday. I don't know what deals where you

760
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: ask Jeff Vessel right now, Like we are spending money recently,

761
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: like it's just going out of style. We just had

762
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: our boiler break. I don't know how much money we're

763
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: spending on on guys here. Yeah, that was a quick

764
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars and then traveling even Vegas. We went

765
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: to Vegas for my birthday. For everything is a fortune.

766
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: Everything is so expensive. My kids don't even understand money,

767
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: and they just want and want and like you want

768
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: to give them, but you.

769
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Also listen Jack, I mean my kids there, Yeah, we

770
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: spoil them. But my son is definitely very money conscious

771
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: and like now that he's in school, but he's very

772
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: He made money, you worked for a couple of years.

773
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: My daughter not as much. But we're working on it. Yeah.

774
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: But I just I love shopping. I love and I

775
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: love getting a deal. So I love Black Friday. I

776
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: love getting into Cyber Monday. Or yes, okay, so Black Friday.

777
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: What else before we talk about something a little deeper

778
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: in terms of gratitude and thanksgiving to all the guys.

779
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: I know that sounds access, But to do people leave

780
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: to watch football? Yes? Yes, and they all go sit

781
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: on the couch.

782
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: That's a nice moment when like everybody is full and

783
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: everything was successful and everyone got along and then you

784
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: all go like just sit, you have.

785
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: A glass of wine and.

786
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: Watch football and talk. That's that's maybe one of my

787
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: favorite parts.

788
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: I don't watch football. I'm actually trying to recently like

789
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: understand it. My you know, my son and my husband

790
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: had been obsessed with football it's whatever. So I'm trying

791
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: because it's just always on in my house. But anyway, yeah,

792
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: I love that too. Well, they're Giants fans, right, yes,

793
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: are the Giants staying well? I don't know. My family

794
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: is Jet fans, okay, and the Jets never do well

795
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: and they are Now. Do you know that my son

796
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: is named after the Jets?

797
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: No?

798
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

799
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: So when we had our first set of twins, I

800
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: said to Evan, because my maiden name is A is

801
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: a first name, so I said, it's Mark, and I said,

802
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 2: I would like our firstborn son to be named after

803
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: my family name. His middle name to be Mark because

804
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: I love it. That's done. Like my brother didn't have kids,

805
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: and my only male cousin is not here. Oh he

806
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: wasn't Mark anyway, but yeah, so my last name is

807
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: pretty much done okay. And so he said, yeah, that's great,

808
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: that's fine. I want this baby be I want his

809
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: middle name to be after the Jets.

810
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: And I said, well, what are you thinking? He said, Jet?

811
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: So Aiden's name is Aiden Jet.

812
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: I said, though, I said, you can if you do this,

813
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: you can never say this is not my team anymore.

814
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: You can never give up on the seam.

815
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: So every year when he screams like I'm getting done

816
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: with this team. I hate this team. I said, no,

817
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: you can't. You named our child after them, said with

818
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: them forever?

819
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I mean my were a Giants family, whatever

820
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: that means. But if you to know Jeff Wesler is

821
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: to know to never probably ever hear him scream or

822
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: escalate really except when he's watching football and he's so

823
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: I think to myself, this is like his outlet, Like

824
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: he's he has all this rage apparently from knows where

825
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: it comes from that and the only time that he

826
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: gets to like release it is around fort It's like

827
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: there's a different pert. So he's not even the same person.

828
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: He starts screaming, and it doesn't matter what time it is.

829
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: I could be sleeping as Kevin too. He doesn't anything

830
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: except sport. It's the weirdest thing. Yeah, Jack, you had

831
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: made a list of like just fun like conversations.

832
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like if you run out of things to talk

833
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: about at the Thanksgiving table, like conversation starters. Okay, So

834
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: if you could only eat one thing for the rest

835
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: of your.

836
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: Life, what would it be? That's always easy because like

837
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: I love the question of like if you're going to

838
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: the chair, to the electric chair. God forbid, Big Mac

839
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: extra pickles hot though, Like, haven't hit Mac extra pickle?

840
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I haven't had it since in the cakes?

841
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

842
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 2: Good?

843
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: Is it good? Well, I'm telling you it's the last

844
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: thing that I would eat with like French eyes, like

845
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: they have to come right off of the thing.

846
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 2: I think I would get myself like like a ton

847
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: of hot bread and butter.

848
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just eat that. I can hear. I can

849
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: hear that. I mean pizza, pasta bread. But if it's

850
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: my if that's it, Big Mac, Oh my god hot.

851
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: All right, Well, if I ever decided to eat a

852
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: big Mac, I want to do it with you. Please

853
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 1: do please. Oh that's a good one. Oh my gosh.

854
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: What do you think was the best prank you ever pulled?

855
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what?

856
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: One of my favorite moments, yes, ever, was when you

857
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 2: and I first started becoming friends.

858
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm going to say?

859
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: When you and I first started becoming friends. Okay, so

860
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: we were going to Ireland. Jenna and I really were getting.

861
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: Like to be close friends.

862
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: But anyway, I sort of started noticing that you really

863
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: was like funny and goofy and we had only known

864
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: each other for a few months.

865
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I actually say that you did this on purpose?

866
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the No? No, not not the luvas? Okay?

867
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: And we had to go shopping for Ireland, and I

868
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: remember I called her and I was like, where are you?

869
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: Like we were talking and she's like, I'm at nordstrum

870
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: Man and I was at Nordstrom too, and I was like, okay,

871
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: So I saw her in the department.

872
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: So I went into the same department.

873
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: She was by a rack and I crouched down next

874
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: to the rack and I like reached through and I

875
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: grabbed her.

876
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: She screamed. It was just the funniest I have not

877
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: thought about that since it happened. Isn't that the fun

878
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: So that was how I can't even believe that that

879
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: was a million years at that time. So everything was

880
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: really happy on the show. We had a group check

881
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: go and imagine this everyone. We had a group chat

882
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: with everyone and people weren't and not everybody was like

883
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: there was every everybody. Every memory saw off of it

884
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: because we wanted to get her things for because it

885
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: was like it was like a bachelorette things. Imagine that

886
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: what a difference two years make what happened? You're asking

887
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: the wrong girl.

888
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: And the fights just go too far. I wish that

889
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 2: they didn't, you think, like I wish every it could

890
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: just move forward.

891
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: But like, whatever that was, that is so bizarre to

892
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: me that we actually I remember being in Nordstroms. I

893
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: was like that for a long time. Everybody was like chat.

894
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: It was always fighting, but it was never it was

895
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: a like show ending. But okay, anyway, these are just

896
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: some like topics. You guys, you want to eat as

897
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: a kid with the best movie your TV show. You're

898
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: just saying you see it as a kid. Wait, there

899
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: was this thing called bagel dogs.

900
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're still around, but we used

901
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: to get them delivered to the house by like I

902
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: don't know. They came in pacts of like thirty and

903
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: you stuck them in your freezer.

904
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: And they were a hot dog on a stick covered

905
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: in bagel bread. Corn dog. I used to I don't

906
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: know what it is a corn dog? Is that this

907
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: is because I grew up in Texas. I don't know

908
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: what a corn dog. Corn dog is like picture like

909
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: corn muffin or corn meal over the hot dogs. So

910
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: I guess instead of cornmeal. It was a big old

911
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: so I used to cut the top off.

912
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: This is when I was a kid, cut the top off,

913
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: and I used to stuff ketch up a ketchup mustard

914
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: and pickles inside and eat.

915
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: It like that and it was so freaking good. Right, Yeah?

916
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: Do you feel like there are certain things I had

917
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: as a kid, certain foods that I've been chasing ever

918
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: since and can't get the same, Like Swedish fish, Like,

919
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: why don't they? They used to be so Now I

920
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: just they're just another candy and I keep waiting for

921
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: them to bring me the match. Are you a candy

922
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: corn hater or a lover? I love it too, love her?

923
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: It's so good. Okay, hold on, all right, let's see. Uh,

924
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: what's your favorite song right now? On repeat? Well? Do

925
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: you play music here? Yeah? Yeah, I mean during Thanksgiving? No,

926
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: it's too loud, but definitely, like I like to have

927
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: music going, Yeah, I like to have happy music going,

928
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: especially now upbeat happy. What is my favorite song right now?

929
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like the ones that actually stick

930
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: in my head. Yeah. So Sabrina Carpenter Espresso only because

931
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: of what happened on Saturday.

932
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: Night Live.

933
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: Did you say, watch it? So they did this skit

934
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: and it just got me like obsessed with the song.

935
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: But and if you had you don't know, you don't

936
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: because it was just like the funniest skit never. You

937
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: have to watch it for a while.

938
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: You have to watch it.

939
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, Do you have a secret talent that no one

940
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: knows about? Hmm? I mean I think I did. I

941
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: posted some like weird things that I could do, but

942
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: the weird things in my mouth or like I can do,

943
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,959
Speaker 1: I can actually touch. There's certain like only a certain

944
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: double jointed like a little bit maybe not maybe not

945
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: like I used to be, but there's like apparently you

946
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: can't not everybody can do this or I don't know

947
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: something I thinks like that. But do you I have

948
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: this one weird talent where there's a spot on your hand.

949
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: This freaks my kids out. There's a spot on your

950
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: hand that if you slam it down, it doesn't didn't.

951
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Did I show you this? I don't know. Do you

952
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: want me to show you?

953
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, let me show you. Okay, okay, you guys

954
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: can't see this, maybe you can see it. Let me

955
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: position the camera so it's this held up this spot

956
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: in the middle.

957
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: Of your hand. Do not try this out the middle

958
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: of your hand right there, wait under the num takeoff.

959
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah this red watch freaked out. Okay, watch hold on,

960
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: I care I don't feel anything. If you hit it

961
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: right there, you don't feel anything.

962
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: I wish you guys could see if you are for me.

963
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: It freaks everybody a bruise. No, no, no, I do

964
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: this all the time. You don't feel anything. You do

965
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: not feel a damn thing. Yeah, it's very strange. Whoa

966
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: I am a weirdo. Hold on, I almost want to

967
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: try it like here. Yeah, we are really digressive. Rate

968
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: your hand out like that. Yeah, yeah, and then you

969
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: bang it. You're not going to feel anything.

970
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: I can't. Yeah, I'll do that one day for everybody.

971
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: How we're going to transition from that? It's such a

972
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: fun thank What am I thankful? Because this is doing that?

973
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: I want to say, I'm going to so do that

974
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving?

975
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is you, the entire family. I will Oh

976
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: my gosh, what am I thankful for?

977
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 2: Well, I'm always above and beyond thankful for the fact

978
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: that I have four healthy children.

979
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: Or because you know they say that.

980
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: You can have a million problems until you have a

981
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: health problem, then you have one problem, you know. So

982
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm very grateful that i have four healthy children and

983
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: that I'm still celebrating with all four grandparents. That to

984
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: me is above and beyond the number one thing, the

985
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: fact that you know, with with so much you know,

986
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: upheaval in the world, that I'm in like a peaceful,

987
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: calm home with a loving husband, and you know, all

988
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: the food we could eat, that we have, the luxury

989
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: of getting full, the really simple things is what I'm

990
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: grateful for.

991
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: I always my grandmother used to always tell me to

992
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: count my blessings. That was like her expression, and I do,

993
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: and I try to every day practice like gratitude, but

994
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: like trying to think because I have those same I'm

995
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: grateful for the same things that you just mentioned, and

996
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: then try to think of like the little things, and

997
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: I think about, like what an adventure this year has been,

998
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: and good and bad. But you know, being on this

999
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: show Housewives of New Jersey brought me to this podcast,

1000
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: these adventures, the adventure that is the show. But also

1001
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: like you know, and I always reference my age, but

1002
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 1: you've been doing this a long time, long much longer

1003
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: than I have. But it's still to me, like sometimes

1004
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: it's a very strange thing to experience, you know, this

1005
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: world of I don't know TV and people and meeting

1006
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: people and having these like new people in my life

1007
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: that you know, I wouldn't have known and getting to

1008
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: do this stuff. It's like, I am grateful, and it

1009
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: is a mixed bag. We both know that it is

1010
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: good and it is bad. And there's the fighting part

1011
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: is bad. The fighting part is bad. There's a lot

1012
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: of at least for me, there's anxiety around a lot

1013
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, there's stuff, but it's also I'm grateful

1014
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: that I had a chance this late in life to

1015
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: have fun, to do this, to have that and Jurie

1016
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't and no matter what.

1017
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: Happens with the show, keep reminding yourself, that's that's not

1018
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: the end.

1019
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the end. That's your launching pad for

1020
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: doing other things. You know, I'm grateful, but I'm grateful

1021
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: for that. I'm grateful for Jeff Fessler. I'm always grateful

1022
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: for him. But like, as we're getting older and like

1023
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 1: I just think of what we've done in the past year,

1024
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: and like I just I'm just grateful to be in

1025
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: a peaceful marriage. I think it's so hard. I mean,

1026
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: we celebrated twenty five years this April. This past April.

1027
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: People are dropping like flies around, like a lot of marriages.

1028
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: I like every week I feel like a year of

1029
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: another because you do friend or especially like the House

1030
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: right and the Housewife Girl, House Girl. It's like contagious.

1031
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I'm grateful to have that kind

1032
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: of a peaceful life like that with him, you know,

1033
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: if we're getting specific. Yeah, same, Really grateful for this podcast.

1034
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: I love doing. Yeah, I've been watching Nobody Wants This?

1035
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: Did you watch that? Maybe we're Sarah Foster and weis

1036
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: shooting the Hot Rabbit. Yeah, yeah, I watched it and

1037
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: they have their podcast, and I was like, yeah, it's

1038
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: a sister. Yes, I love that. It is fun. Yeah,

1039
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: I hope it's fun for you guys to listen. Yeah,

1040
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: me too. And if it is Leaveles Server, yes, yes please. Anyway,

1041
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: I love this episode, really fun.

1042
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: I hope that everybody has a really really nice Thanksgiving

1043
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: and you stop for a second and think about what

1044
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: you are grateful for.

1045
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: Me too, And hopefully it's weird that we're doing this

1046
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: on election day because this world and this country is

1047
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: in quite a bit of upheaval, so days just like

1048
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: stop and breathe.

1049
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I really hope that everything is peaceful too,

1050
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: no matter who wins, that there's no.

1051
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: Craziness and come home. Oh yeah so that also, but yeah,

1052
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: yeah again for another episode. Okay you guys, happy, happy, happy,

1053
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: healthy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving. See you soon.