1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Speaks to the planet. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 2: I go by the name of Charlamagne of God and 3 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: guess what, I can't wait to see y'all at the 4 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 2: third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. That's right, We're coming 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: back to Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, April twenty six at Poeman 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Yards and it's hosted by none other than Decisions, Decisions, 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: Mandy B and Weezy. Okay, we got the R and 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 2: B Money Podcast with taking Jay Valentine. You got the 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: Woman of All podcasts with Sarah Jake Roberts. We got 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: Good Mom's Bad Choices. 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I'm Valentine 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: and this is the R and B Money Podcast. It's 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: the authority on all things R and b H. Sometimes 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: you know you're writing it's so motherfucking good, talk about it. 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what genre you in, It doesn't matter, 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where I write. When you get that phone call, 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: you go write them here. Can I pull up on 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: you in Nashville and give you his hit? Can I 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: pull up on you in Los Angeles and give you 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: his hit? 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: Oh Ria? 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: Can I pull. 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: Up on you and Corea? 33 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: You know how Jesus said when they came back, Nigga 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: just came't bay in Coree? 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: Can you deliver on the mad? 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, put this off. That's what you do. He's 37 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: sitting right here. Yeah, full the way he's him d 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: wing with more. 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: Junior Jause, that's a senior. 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: The senior nicer than you. 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: Listen, is nice. You can do some things JR. 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: Can't do. 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, I appreciate you'all having me. 44 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 5: Man, come on, man, yeah, long time coming with the 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 5: greatest they ever do it. 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: I want to I want to start off with beef. 47 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: I want to start there first because I think I 48 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: think I think that's how we kicked this off. Okay, 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: you've written some very very incredible, incredible records. Incredible, Jay, 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: how long have we know doing I don't. 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: I don't even know, at least at least at least 53 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: I diedst Have you ever gotten up, Dwayne Pack? Have 54 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: you ever gotten hey, nigga, pull up? I got some. 55 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: He's been so busy at the top of the charts 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: with the Okay, listen, fine be minus god. 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: Shut out. 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 3: I'm just listen. 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: I just got to say I was honored to be 60 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 5: on the t g T, the first t g T 61 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 5: album between the lines. 62 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: Between the lines, you said, the first, only one t 63 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: g T album. 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: Oh well, then listen, they never got too You say 65 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: the first we got the demos. Hey, well that's even 66 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 4: more than the one and only t g T album. 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely between the lines, what the honor it was. 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: About? 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: That's why we didn't get the album to This is. 70 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: Neither the Hey, somebody said that the comments, I was 71 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: looking at them. He ain't that good. He's just saying 72 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: with his chest out it was on. 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: Somebody else thinks that I got tagged. 74 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: I said, oh they glad ray. 75 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, when I say the women attacked him, that 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: that nigga that said that same with his chest and 77 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: that's fine. 78 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: Ain't that good? 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: Whatever you're here to see? Hey, listen, huh, I got 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: I got, I gotta off listen. I don't. I don't 81 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: have the talented moment where I'm like, please respect my 82 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: un No. If you want to tip me, tip me, 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm with. 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: It, welcome all nothing. 85 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: I don't care why you there, Just get the ticket. 86 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: I take care of the rest. 87 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 5: That's crazy. Oh my god, listen, listen. You already know, man, 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 5: that's what. That's a phone call away anything you need. 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I am issue. That's what I'm here pulling out an 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: amber alert right now. 91 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 4: Certain certain people, certain people. 92 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: It's not even an ass. 93 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: Actually, it's actually a certain person a certain persons. 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 6: Only Chris gets your records. Everybody else has to wait. 95 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 6: He thought I was about to say some other ship. 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: Nigga, here's all right for the world. Oh my god, you. 97 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Know what it's. It's like that within itself is like 98 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: is a blessing, a very high level blessing that you're 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: that your frequency connects in a way to what he does, 100 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: like you guys, connection musically, It's just it just makes 101 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: fucking sense. 102 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 5: He was the first artist to give me a shot. 103 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 5: First one, he didn't care about what did he do? 104 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: What? What is he written? What's this guy? 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 5: It was never knowning that, and I can say that 106 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 5: he's been It's not even just with me. I've heard 107 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 5: that with others. 108 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: But everybody. 109 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 5: That's how if you got records facts Chris Brown, which 110 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 5: means it's about the music, give an opportunity. 111 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: It's about the music, about the music, because he's a 112 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: rare artist that believes that I got the sa I 113 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: just need. I just need the saucy people I don't. 114 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't need the name facts. I need where's the 115 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: sauce set facts? It's a nigga sitting at first Baptist, 116 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: been a constal. Just got bottles of the sauce, bottles 117 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: of it, bottles of it. No, nobody knows nothing about nothing. 118 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely right. And you don't find a lot of people 119 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 5: that dude that where it's just about the music. 120 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. They checking to see, well, 121 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: who's he working. 122 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 6: At the highest level, especially the highest Absolutely. But since 123 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 6: we since we're talking about sauce, let's take it. 124 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: Back sauce that's specific race, you know. 125 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 6: What I mean, Let's take it back because you know, 126 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 6: off camera we was arguing about it. He was arguing 127 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 6: about it. You know it like the base, like the bat, 128 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 6: like thea. You from a place that got plenty of sauce. 129 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 5: About Kansas City, Missouri, like the Missouri And then listen, 130 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: because I know it's two sides of Kansas, and I 131 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 5: rock with both sides. 132 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: But I know that you're from the Missouri side. 133 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: I'm definitely know what I mean. 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 5: But but there are some good Kansas side people, you 135 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, really good, really, I'm cool with 136 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 5: a lot of them. 137 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying it like. 138 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: Now y'all liked it, but for me, y'all like the. 139 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: Don't do that. 140 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: You mean, surprising amount of people that don't know the difference. 141 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 5: I mean, Yo, So you're from Kansas, right, No, I'm 142 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 5: from Kansas City, Missouri. 143 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: All right? 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: So like were Dorothy, sir, Sir, we didn't pay in 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: any of them guarro geography, none of the geography. 146 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 6: But it is ultimately like if San Francisco and Oakland 147 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 6: two different states, right, right? 148 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: Facts, fact, very much. 149 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 6: That's tough, right fact, because it's literally just a bridge 150 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 6: that separate. 151 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: That's true. Right, If you go to the base of Bridge. 152 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: But when you get to talking about bro but when 153 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: you get to talk about Dorothy and all that listening, 154 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: that's hours away from where I But everybody didn't know that. 155 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 5: I understand, I understand, but I'm not where from where 156 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 5: Dorothy is from. I'm from the Home of the barbecue. 157 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: You know that? Did you say? Y'all call it the 158 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: home of the barber? Like y'all the home of the barbecue? Like, 159 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: ain't nowhere else making fire barbecue fire? You said Gates right. 160 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 5: Fire subjective? Gates is definitely there's another one put on 161 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: to Jackstack. And you haven't had Jack Stack get that 162 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 5: in your life, Jack Stacks. 163 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: From the Home of the Barber. Absolutely, ain't no other states. 164 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: There was a state in the Yeah. 165 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 4: There are some representatives for sure. 166 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 6: Saint Louis is still Missouri's. So that's just that's under 167 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 6: the it's under the act. 168 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 4: They got barbecue, Wow, they might. 169 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't have no barbee. 170 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: I know they got soul food with a certain rip. 171 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: That's a sweetie by Okay, you out. 172 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 6: Here taking It's what I'm saying. Memphis don't got Memphis. 173 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: Yeahs y'all Memphis got barbecue because you got to get 174 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: you attacked in the I. 175 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 7: Think you're going it's us, if it's Texas, might Texas, no, 176 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 7: no fact texts. 177 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: If we're talking about the best, are we talking about 178 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: the best? Are we talking about good Barbara? 179 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: I think I think if we're talking about good like 180 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: good Barbara, I don't I don't think. I don't think 181 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: a chain can compete with with that. 182 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 4: Okay, with that. 183 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: Elder, with that elder gentleman standing in front of that 184 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: that that that old barrels every good. Listen, my great 185 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: grandfather used to be dipping and stuff and making the 186 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: barbecue and talking and spinning at the same time. 187 00:09:48,320 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 3: People love that's good, like big. 188 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Mother. 189 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: Because now it's as a grown man, I understand. But 190 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: you are right when it's loving it though, like and. 191 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: What you're doing. 192 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 193 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 5: It's different because a lot of people take pride in it, 194 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 5: especially from like from your memphisis and your Texas and 195 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: in case he like, they take pride for. 196 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: Sure, you know what I'm saying. I think when life 197 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: is like connected to something too, and it's like when 198 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: it's like when it's that, when it's that guy and 199 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: his family and and every you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday 200 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: day out there and the kids is out there with him, 201 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: and we need this. So I ain't got no I 202 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: don't have no choice but to make sure this is 203 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: rocking off the chap every time time you pull up. 204 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 4: Absolutely, So that's real. 205 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So speaking of cooking, okay, okay, when did you start? 206 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: I want to get it toeg got you do you 207 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: start getting your cooking on with people? Was like, hey, 208 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: that you get that young man an apron and. 209 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: It is great. Tell me when g Win five years old? 210 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Love that young age. 211 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 5: And Casey like most people from the church Christ Temple 212 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 5: Pentecostal Bath is crazy. Christ Temple Pentecostal Church. 213 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 3: But that like because you you messed up. 214 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 6: It was almost like, well they changed the name across 215 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 6: the color lines in the gang. 216 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: You know, I'll be asking, church is wild. They did 217 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: change the name. 218 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: Now it's just praise practices. 219 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: It's praise practices. Boom. 220 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: So how you celebrate okay, all right, how you sell 221 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: the lame in terms the lame? 222 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 4: How Christ Sample Phenecostal Church and we're part of the 223 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: p A W denomination And. 224 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's raising worship. Oh listen, that's who A W is. 225 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: That's Braiser. 226 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: Dang, that's crazy p A W. 227 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 6: I'm just asking you know what, I don't know. I 228 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 6: need to check the history on the name of p 229 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 6: A W. It might leave be learning you something that's great. 230 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 4: It was. 231 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: I got your church niggas. 232 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 8: Oh no, no, no, also assemblies. Okay, is amazing. 233 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 3: Dame, come on, Jay, that's the church. I'm gonna stark. 234 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: No, I don't want to suck. 235 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 5: It might be some of that going on in some 236 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 5: of them, for sure, But yeah, Pen the Coast of 237 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 5: Man moms director of the choir, and she used to 238 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 5: make me get up there and sing man and. 239 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 4: I no, I hated it. I used to have stage 240 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: right when I was little. 241 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 5: Somehow I learned how to tap out and just I 242 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 5: don't know how, Like anytime I would get up and sing, like, 243 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 5: I'll be able to tap out, but the nerves is 244 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 5: one thing, I'll just be like, oh my god. And 245 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 5: so that's why I take my hat off to I'm 246 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 5: leave it on right now, but I take my hat 247 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 5: off to. 248 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 4: Artists that like it's nothing like you can get like 249 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: y'all just get up and just like it's nothing like 250 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 4: no nerves, no unless. 251 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 5: You know, like me and just able to just it's 252 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 5: a light switch, you can just turn it off. But 253 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 5: that was how it was, man. I just I would 254 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 5: be able to turn it off. And then my dad 255 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 5: he played the organ. It's funny because he'll call me 256 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 5: now I've been getting ready go on sessions. 257 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 4: He'd be like, who you work with today? 258 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: I work with such such they play the organ, Dad, 259 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 5: not in every session. You know, they're not playing organs 260 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 5: in the sessions, but uh, you know, depending on what 261 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 5: the vibe is for today. You know what I'm saying. 262 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 5: He looks for the organ. But he played the organ, 263 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 5: and he used to try to get me to play 264 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 5: the organ. I would sit up there. I got a 265 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 5: twin brother, both of us. He tried to get us up. 266 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: I had me sit right next to him on the organ, 267 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: and I just would be like, dog, I'd rather be 268 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: doing with everybody else doing right now. And then I 269 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: took Suzuki piano training. 270 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: What is that, bruh. 271 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 5: One of the most intense piano trainings. Uh, not necessarily 272 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 5: just piano. I believe violin like there's different forms of it, 273 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 5: but it's a Japanese style of piano, and I absolutely 274 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: hated it. I used to have to practice every single day. 275 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: I say, I grew up in the house where you 276 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 5: couldn't watch TV through the week. It was like, oh, 277 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: you want to watch Martin tape it? You watch it Saturday. 278 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 279 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: It was I had no TV all week, but I 280 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: did have it. 281 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: I didn't have a TV in my room. 282 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: Pentecosta, That's what that is. 283 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 7: You want to know what though, Wait, what's crazy? 284 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: I don't even know that anything to do with church 285 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: for my dad. 286 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 5: If it was my mom, probably if it was my dad, 287 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 5: it was probably like, no, nigga, you need to practice 288 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 5: and that's all. 289 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: That's all it is. Do your homework. 290 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 5: He he was big on studies, big on on on practicing. 291 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 5: And so it was an hour of that and I 292 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: have people come over, friends, come over, cousins come over, 293 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 5: no matter what the day is, You do your hour. 294 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 5: Not yet, all right, go do your hour? And I 295 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: sit due to the hour, and they playing my Nintendo. 296 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: They doing you about done yet You're done with your lessend? 297 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: No? 298 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: Not yet? Man, So they having all the fun, bro. 299 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 5: But I hated it. I absolutely hate it. But hindsight 300 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: is twenty twenty. I wish I would have stuck with 301 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 5: it though, you know what I mean, if I knew 302 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 5: I was gonna be doing music when I got older. 303 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just super intense. 304 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Was he Do you feel like he was preparing you 305 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: for this? 306 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: Not for this? 307 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: No, because I don't even know. I think it had more. 308 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: To do with discipline. 309 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, he's big. 310 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: On discipline, you know what I mean. He was big 311 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: on that and and and you know, if you're gonna 312 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: do something, do it all the way. Yeah, you know 313 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: what I mean. 314 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 5: He was like, I'll tell you what because he knew 315 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 5: he hated, Like when you turned fifteen, if you still 316 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 5: don't like it, you can stop. 317 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: It might have been twelve. What are we talking about? 318 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: But they I turned it then I was like, yeah, 319 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: I'm done. I'm done. I'm so. 320 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: Is your brother Sauzuki out to never at the time? 321 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, both of bro both of us. I 322 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 5: do an hour, then. 323 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: He do an hour. 324 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah you're done, all right. 325 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: Your turn. 326 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 5: But see then he but he grew up because his 327 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 5: mom played, so he grew up under the same principles 328 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: say his mom just it wasn't no Suzuki like that 329 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 5: his mom played in the church and she was blind 330 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 5: and an amazing piano player. But he he grew up 331 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 5: under the same under that same principle and the same 332 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 5: principles and practices, and so. 333 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, he just you know, paid it forward, you know 334 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 4: what I mean to us? 335 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 5: But my brother and I both and I yeah, like 336 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 5: I absolutely hated it, But again today I wish I. 337 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 4: Would have stuck with it. 338 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: You know, you don't really find sessions where you like 339 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 5: unless you're a session musician, you. 340 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 4: Know what I mean, if you're a producer, you're not 341 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 4: reading music like that. 342 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 343 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 5: You played by ear, and now I wish I would 344 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 5: have like learned how to play by ear. That you 345 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 5: know that I think goes a long way in what 346 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 5: we do. You know, whether it's piano, guitar, whatever it is. 347 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: Wait, did you do did you or were you self. 348 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: Taught or did you tried? You know what I'm saying, 349 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: that's they put me in the middle. C But cool, 350 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: you had to, but you had to I had to early. 351 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: So what made you want to do it? 352 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: Though? You know what I'm saying, Like, what made you say? Boom? 353 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: I'm about to learn it sounds. 354 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: I heard something that as a key I couldn't I 355 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: couldn't shake like I heard. I heard the chords and 356 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: and notes together and and it would it would do 357 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: something to my soul as a kid, as a five 358 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: year old kid. And I gotta learn it so that 359 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: I can feel that feeling all the time. 360 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 4: That's amazing. 361 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: And that was that was that was my chase. 362 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 4: Wow. 363 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: The music was like porn for you. You today, you're 364 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: cooking the day. I just asked, watch his niggas explain 365 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: that it's getting hot, it's getting warm over here. It 366 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: was like it was like a feeling. And you know, 367 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: I always tell people when I heard Charlie Brown's Christmas, 368 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: it was, it was. I will never forget it to 369 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: this day. I will watch it Charlie Brown's Christmas to 370 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: day when they play christ Charlie Brown Christ on the radio. 371 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 3: Turn up. 372 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 373 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: I need it. Wow, just different wow. And I and 374 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: I chased it until until it sounded like what I heard. Wow, 375 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: added many fingers I could add. And I just sit 376 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: at my grandma on my grandmother's piano. 377 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 4: Just yeah. 378 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: I wish I had all day, all night. 379 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 5: I wish I had that I wonder if I didn't 380 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 5: have it because I was forced to board with you. 381 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: Know what, force is tougher, you know what I mean? 382 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 5: Because I but do you feel like because I come 383 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: from the forest, right, but do you feel like it 384 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 5: was the same? 385 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like I don't want to 386 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 4: do it? 387 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: No, It's so funny. 388 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 6: I think that's why he and I have such good 389 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 6: chemistry because we come from two different sides of music 390 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 6: of coming into music, you know what I mean. Like, ultimately, 391 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 6: my dad, even though he was a street guy, he 392 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 6: was so engulfed in loving music that he was like, 393 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 6: my kids have to do music. Wow, this is the 394 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 6: way out. This is all of these things. So even 395 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 6: you know, we go back and forth and we laugh 396 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 6: a lot about I'm like, bro, you're a music nerd, right, 397 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 6: And it's funny because I've almost ran away from being 398 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 6: a music nerd because he'd. 399 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: Be like, well, nigga, you know that you gifted and 400 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: you know that. 401 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I don't, No, I don't know. 402 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: Just one day I could see. 403 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 6: But it's because, like you're saying, being forced to practice, dude, 404 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 6: this instead of discovering it, like his is pure discovery. 405 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: Discovery, you know, his is pure discovery. So it's only 406 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: the joy of it. 407 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 6: I'm looking at the whole block outside and my family 408 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 6: can't go outside, and all he's doing is doing this step. 409 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: Side over outside outside with my kids. 410 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: Don't we want to go outside? Like outside? 411 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 9: Wait? 412 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 4: I couldn't wait. 413 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: I would right or go outside? 414 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I couldn't wait. 415 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 10: Man. 416 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 5: But that was My bikes never caught flat because my 417 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 5: tires were being used. 418 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: They said all weekend, we can borrow Jay's bike. 419 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 9: Yeah. 420 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 6: You any bikes in my house got flats right down, bro, 421 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 6: because the kids won't get on. 422 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 10: Them and go. 423 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Come on, bro, not just spend me my kids fifteen? 424 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm cool off this. 425 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 4: I was done with it. 426 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: I was done. 427 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: But were you done with anything pertaining to music at 428 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: this point? Were you writing at that time? Were you're 429 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: doing so? 430 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 4: I so I was in a I was in a group. 431 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: Come on, group, but come on, girls, the name of 432 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: the group, you know, come on, bro, you got you 433 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: have to You can't just say I'm on. It's part 434 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: of the Army Money podcast. 435 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: It was a church group. It was a gospel group. 436 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 5: A to J A the number two Jay addicted to Jesus, crazy. 437 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 3: Addicted to Jesus. 438 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 7: Listen, that was the name of the group. See then 439 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 7: what they introduced you a to j coming up? It 440 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 7: sounded like cool, we got addicted Jesus. 441 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: Next, I am from the man that right there? Did 442 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: they say? Addicted? What Jesus doing? 443 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: Hey, I tell you what Jesus? Tell you? 444 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 11: What? 445 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: Nice? Though? Listen? Oh my god, how many guys in 446 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: the group? Five? 447 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 4: Me? Five got me, my twin brother, my cousin Titus. Yes, yes, 448 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: I did not know that. All right, this we'll get 449 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: into this, get into this. Titus is how I got 450 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 4: started writing writing, John. 451 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 6: This is great, Okay, all these years I've known you 452 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 6: and known him, I didn't an idea. 453 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 5: Titus is how I got into writing songs at fourteen. 454 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: So we're in this group. We're in a dick. Oh 455 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: you forgot you. Get shout the other guys. You got 456 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: shout all. 457 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 4: Your I'm tripping, shout all you guys. 458 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 5: It was me, my brother, my twin brother, Jermaine, my 459 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: cousin Titus, my cousin Caleb, and my cousin Deonte. So 460 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 5: five guys, okay, so all family too though, All family, 461 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 5: and start there was a there was another guy in 462 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 5: there justin when we when we started then he he 463 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 5: was a little older than us, and then he went. 464 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 4: Off to school. 465 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: I love that you or your brother got the twin 466 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: names too. Ye he's going on for your. 467 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: Same middle name too, Ray Same. But that was that 468 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: was what it was. 469 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 5: So growing up, we're singing, and I mean I think 470 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 5: we might have been eleven when we started, ten eleven 471 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 5: somewhere around there, and so we're singing a lot of 472 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 5: like of course, uh like you know, we were singing 473 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 5: Minis standard of course. Yeah, him was our goal to 474 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 5: so we were singing some Minis Standard commission of course. 475 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 5: But around fourteen, I find out that my cousin Titus 476 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 5: with some of the other songs that we were singing. 477 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 5: I find it and I'm thinking at the time that 478 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 5: these are just songs that are out, and then I find 479 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 5: out these songs that he wrote. Yeah, I'm like, like 480 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 5: what like? And then he showed me that we had 481 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 5: either thirteen or fourteen. He showed me like how to 482 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 5: write songs, and that was how that was how it started. 483 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 5: And then we just I stuck with him those next 484 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 5: couple of years, like we would go through the middle school, 485 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 5: high school, and then. 486 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: Writing songs for the group. And that was how we 487 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: got into I'm telling you nice though, like nice, real nice. 488 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: So where y'all performing? I just going from church to church. 489 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: The whole city. 490 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, like any like churches, festivals around the city, like 491 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: they were calling us to come sing at all of those. 492 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 5: But even before the group though, like as a kid, 493 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 5: so my dad played as I mentioned, and he. 494 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: Were liked his little father son dudo. 495 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: Man, we ended up I'd be singing that stuff throughout 496 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 5: the city, like different functions. They'd be having different fundraisers. 497 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 5: It'd be him on the keys, me singing, and. 498 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was really where like that wasn't 499 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: taking Jermaine with. 500 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 5: Your Jermaine wasn't that none of the latest performances at all. No, 501 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 5: he was wherever he was. Yeah, he didn't have no 502 00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 5: part of that. 503 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 4: I'm cool Jermaine. Jermaine wanted to. 504 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: I think as we got older, Jermaine got the bug 505 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 5: for music. But yeah, it never uh it never stuck 506 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 5: with him, you know what I mean. He was also 507 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 5: like more in like the finding. He ended up going 508 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: to getting his degree in like financing economics and that 509 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 5: and that kind of thing whatever. 510 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: But he's Jermaine Sings. It's still to this day singing 511 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: a church every Sunday, praising wordship to this day right now, 512 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 4: next Sunday he's up on the stage guaranteed. 513 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: So it would be my dad and I going around 514 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 5: seeing all these I don't even know how he's booking 515 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 5: these these gigs like all around the city, and I would, yeah, 516 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 5: we would go out there and show up and sing 517 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 5: a couple, a couple of number numbers and and do 518 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 5: our things. 519 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: But I was again like I never growing up. 520 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: I never was like. 521 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 5: Comfortable, like just like like super comfortable, like singing in 522 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 5: front of people like that. But for some reason I 523 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 5: was able to always flip it off and do what 524 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: I need to do, and that actually carried over into 525 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 5: getting into the industry. I would be able to turn 526 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 5: off whatever the nervous switch is. 527 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 4: And not and not making the moment bigger than. 528 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 5: Than what I was there to do, you know what 529 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 5: I mean, Like I somehow I was able to always 530 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 5: do that, so it carried over all the way through. 531 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: But I've never just been like you know, like I 532 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 4: love like me. 533 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 5: Jump out and you know what I'm saying, which I 534 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 5: feel like to be an artist and to be a 535 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 5: successful artist, I think you have to enjoy what you 536 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 5: do because there's so much other stuff that comes along 537 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 5: with being an artist that at the end of the day, 538 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 5: it has you have to love what you do. It's 539 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 5: got to come back down to the love. I love 540 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 5: what you know what. I hate this, that, that, and that, 541 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 5: But I love getting up and singing and performing and 542 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 5: doing what I do. I think it all comes back. 543 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 6: That's why I only sing sometimes, bro, But because for me, 544 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 6: I don't get the same I don't get the same 545 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 6: joy out of it. 546 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: That tanked up. 547 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand. 548 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 6: I see it up close with him because you know, 549 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 6: we've we've taken this ride together to where we'll be 550 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 6: dealing with all the foolishness to business, all this stuff. 551 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 6: And I can see him and I'm like, all right, 552 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 6: it's weighing on him a little. And then as soon 553 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 6: as he's walking towards the stage, he don't care about nothing. 554 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: That we with, the switches flip and I'm still like, 555 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: I want killing and you want me to come. 556 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: Out and say you want me to trying to tie. 557 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: Wait, let me ask you, do you feel like, that's 558 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: something you're born with. 559 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: Though, what's that? 560 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 5: That what he was just saying about you? The ability, 561 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 5: like the I don't know if it's the love for 562 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 5: it or whatever. I think you're born with it. I 563 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 5: don't think it's something you can teach. I don't think 564 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: it's something you can learn. I think it's something that's 565 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 5: innately in you. 566 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: I think you're born with it. It just depends on 567 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: how you how that space is defined for you, Like 568 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: for me, that space is untouchable for anything, for anybody. 569 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: That is my space. 570 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 3: Was it always that way? 571 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 4: Did you always look at it that way? 572 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: No? I was always happy in it. Yeah, but I 573 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: didn't know how to define it or what it was, 574 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: or even how to protect it. For that matter, I 575 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: get it. And so for me, once I learned that, man, 576 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: when I'm up here, nothing else matters and learned I 577 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: learned it from a crazy place, from being on stage, 578 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: being extremely happy, being extremely fulfilled, and being extremely broke. 579 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: Huh broke, uh divorced, all of that and none of 580 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: that mattering that moment. Okay, and this is when you're 581 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: singing background, are are you? This is when I'm doing 582 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: just you know, a little random shows, keep the lights on. 583 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm Tank. Okay, Okay, I'm Tank. You know 584 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I got maybe I deserve, I got 585 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: one man out and yeah, and I'm trying to I'm 586 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where the happy is that I 587 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: can all where I can always get there. And I 588 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: realized that in music on stage in that studio, nothing 589 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: nothing else fuck matter. Wow, Like okay, wow, okay, Because 590 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: because I had allowed the stress, the stresses of life 591 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: to weigh me down so crazy to where it affected everything. 592 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: And then one day consciously I said, I'll never do 593 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: that again. I'll never let anything disrupt the gift, disrupt 594 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: the space that the gift lives in. And so it 595 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: wasn't always like that. 596 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: Wow. 597 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: I had to adopt that that's amazing. 598 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's amazing. 599 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: And I was through the fire and know what I'm saying. 600 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 1: So I was like, it's all we got to go 601 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: through all this ship just to get on the stage. 602 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: It's crazy when that mother fucking music come on. When 603 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: we get them push up here and we pumped that 604 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: chest because you know they want to see it, put 605 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: them in ears in and were taking that walk. It's 606 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: a different thing. 607 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: It's a whole different different beings. 608 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 6: No, I I listen, but that's not something you wanted. No, Nah, 609 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 6: I didn't. 610 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: I didn't and and I didn't notice like writing song 611 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: professionally like was even a thing, you know what I mean, 612 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: Like we were doing that just out of shure, like 613 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 4: sheer we I love, like this is dope. 614 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 6: Like so you were because being from a place like 615 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 6: Kansas City where so rich in music, you guys had 616 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 6: so many talented people come out of Kansas City, come 617 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 6: out of Kansas and Kansas and miss both sides, Missouri 618 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 6: and Kansas. 619 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: And even even though someone like. 620 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 6: Olivia Harris a Damon Thomas who were a generation before 621 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 6: you were you guys watching that. 622 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: I never knew anything about any of that. 623 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 5: Now, never did. And it might be just because I 624 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 5: was so like in like the church, Lane, So it 625 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 5: might be because of that. Now I say in the 626 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 5: church like, but I did, like one of the things 627 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 5: was like like I grew up in the church. But 628 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 5: I also it wasn't like I could I could also listen. 629 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: To the secular secular music on weekends. 630 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Saturday, go ahead. 631 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: Striking it. Nobody said none of us. 632 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: Entertainment, the timing was intable. I'll tell you that much. 633 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: I could listen to the song. 634 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 6: Now he's having to remember, like the song, like the song. 635 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: I can't watch the TV, but I can listen. 636 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 5: I can listen to I can listen to the songs. 637 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 5: But it wasn't it wasn't of course, nothing like with 638 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 5: No cousin or nothing like that. 639 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: But R and B for sure. 640 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, for sure, my mom, I only knew the ready 641 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: versions to n w A and I would wrap them 642 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: at school and they would laugh at me. The radio 643 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: A young I can't wait to have. 644 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 6: You to rap along with it, Oh my god on 645 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 6: the podcast and wrap with te like I'll wrap with 646 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 6: war G. 647 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: That's crazy. The radio version is crazy. But I could. 648 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: I could. 649 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 4: My mom she was, she was the gospel listener. 650 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 5: But my dad and so my dad, that's really where 651 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 5: I got like it was such a diverse listening palette. 652 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 4: So it was all the R and B. 653 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 5: But then my dad also I would listen to be 654 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 5: Michael McDonald and and Bobby called Well and like Steely 655 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 5: Dan and then to be a whole which I mean, 656 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 5: that's a whole other thing. But because they learned from yeah, yeah, 657 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 5: so you know what I'm saying, but that was where 658 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 5: I learned all that, and and I never associated a 659 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 5: skin type with any of that music. And so for me, 660 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 5: I always thought, like growing up, I thought Mike McDonald's black, 661 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 5: Bobby Carwell. 662 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: Was black listening to those voices, and then as you 663 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 4: get it's like, m h wait what but I like, I. 664 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 5: Just I just started reading Michael McDonald's biography and he 665 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 5: talks about like his whole influence it was was brothers, buh, 666 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 5: like the whole his and he's not, you know, ashamed. 667 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 4: About it, like he's like, oh yeah, like I. 668 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 5: Was listening to this day and so so yeah, so 669 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 5: for my dad that was where like everything it would 670 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 5: be like Chris Cross, like that was where I got 671 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 5: onto Christ like everything. 672 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: He listened to it all and so a lot of 673 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 4: that early on was just. 674 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 5: Kind of like poured into me essentially creatively as well, 675 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 5: and I didn't probably recognize it then, but yeah, singing 676 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 5: literally that was something from five I would perform with 677 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 5: him through the city until I was probably thirteen, fourteen 678 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 5: fifteen somewhere around there when I quit this zookie piano. 679 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 4: But yeah, that was where it all started. 680 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: Are you getting some of the money y'all making. 681 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 4: I know you know what, No, I don't think. So 682 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 4: now I need to have a talk with Dwayne Senior. 683 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. 684 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 4: Hey, let me all let you that. 685 00:36:53,800 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: I listen. You had a place to live a barbecue. Yeah, ye, 686 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: lights right? 687 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 3: Ain't sweet because he's like, yeah, I don't know how 688 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 3: he was getting booked. 689 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: I know, I didn't want to say I can tell 690 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: you how. 691 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: I can tell you how you getting booked? 692 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 12: We're talking about that's crazy, that's funny. 693 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, we want make me and little Dwayne, 694 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 5: we're gonna come down. We're gonna do a couple of numbers. 695 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: That's your spot handle the bit. 696 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 3: I know everybody else got these they got these grown 697 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 3: up groups. I got a little Dwayne. 698 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna love him. You gonna don't love him. Juice, 699 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: it's all you need, apple apple juice. You're gonna cut up, 700 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: make it, make the envelope. 701 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 4: Making it. 702 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: With more seen. 703 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: Ye, his name Dwayne? 704 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 3: Who just right? 705 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 4: Dwayne? 706 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: When moore a nation's bank? Hey, no, I get what 707 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: the man wasn't. 708 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 3: It the game? Game like that? 709 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 13: Don't say my name Dwayne like that? 710 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: That's today. 711 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 4: I see they called jal. 712 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 3: He got a organ. 713 00:38:46,239 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 9: Gott hey, god, oh my, he got organ crazy talking 714 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 9: like that. 715 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: He ain't got no walking. 716 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 12: Talking talking like that, he ain't got no order. Really, yeah, 717 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 12: that's crazy. 718 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: You starting stopped, all right? All right? 719 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 3: Oh, I just wanted my guy to recognize he had 720 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: been done. 721 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 4: Like me, when you were talking earlier, I could have 722 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 4: told you he was. I can have told you was 723 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 4: booking this, Bro. 724 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 3: That's crazy, point all on past cross crazy. 725 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 726 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: That was literally that was it, bro, That was that 727 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 3: was where where it all started. 728 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 5: And then we then we kind of kept that going 729 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 5: until everybody went off to college and did there did 730 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 5: the thing. But I was still like writing and again 731 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 5: like I didn't know anything about like writing for people 732 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 5: and that thing. 733 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 4: Like we was writing for us, still writing just J 734 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 4: for a to J, still writing for a to J. 735 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So that was what it was. 736 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: And when does the light bulb go off? Is there 737 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: is there somebody who from an actual music business standpoint 738 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: that takes some notice or you end up in a 739 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: room somewhere and people hear some things and like hey 740 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: you know that, No. 741 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 5: That was that was a ways down the line. Honestly, 742 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 5: so Titus. It actually Test moved Titus. 743 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 4: And Brian moved out here around Uh. They moved out 744 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 4: here not. 745 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 5: Too long after after high school, like right after high 746 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 5: school moved out. But Titus moved out and I went 747 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 5: off to college. I think Titus went to college for 748 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 5: a year, but he he uh, he came out here 749 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 5: and uh he had an older brother that was already 750 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 5: out here who was at a gospel group at the 751 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 5: time too, And so Titus had moved out here. 752 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 3: First, I was in college. 753 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 4: I actually was playing football and so I was a 754 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 4: safety and so I played. Actually, my focus was. 755 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 5: On football when I graduated, My focus was on football. 756 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 5: We would I mean we would still do we would 757 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 5: do music like when I would come home for like 758 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 5: breaks or something like that. 759 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: But but I was. 760 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 4: Focused on football. 761 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 5: I I went to Juco Junior College, played there, and 762 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 5: then I transferred to UAP b for for for a 763 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 5: couple of years and finished out my time there, but 764 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 5: played ball there and then from there. 765 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 3: I was drafted. 766 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 4: So the NFL. 767 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 5: Your NFL had a European league at the time, So 768 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 5: I was drafted to NFL Europe to the Berlin Thunder. 769 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 4: So I played I was. I was over there for 770 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 4: a second. 771 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 1: Are you really played football? 772 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 5: I did for for for you, locked in, locked in. 773 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 5: I was locked in on on football. But you know 774 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 5: what's crazy, this lady somebody told me one. 775 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 4: Time, and this is when I was like heavy football 776 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 4: for me, it was actually my my dreams were NFL. 777 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 4: So I was like, that's my that's what I'm doing. 778 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 4: Bo I'm so I'm doing. 779 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 5: I'm having tryouts Chiefs and Raiders and Colds, different people 780 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 5: before I got sent to NFL Europe. And then this 781 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 5: lady I come home, somebody told me one time she said, 782 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 5: actually I think it was Mike I mother to tell 783 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 5: me that. 784 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, but she was like you. She came 785 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 4: up to me, she approached me. She was real nervous 786 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 4: and she was like. 787 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: She was like yeah. 788 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 5: She was like, the Lord put it on in my 789 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 5: spirit to tell you that. And I just been kind 790 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 5: of going back and forth with it, well I should 791 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 5: tell you or not? And she said, but he told 792 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 5: me to tell you that music is what you're supposed 793 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 5: to be doing and not football. And I was like, okay, 794 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 5: thank you, Like thanks for that word. I got bladed. 795 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Ex is that how you cuss people? God, 796 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: bless you, God, bless. 797 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 3: You God, let you appreciate you crazy. That was definitely 798 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 3: what it was. 799 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: You fully focused. 800 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 5: I wouldn't hear none of that. Yeah, I wouldn't hear 801 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 5: any of that. I was headed to the NFL Europe 802 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 5: and so I was doing trial to get try. I 803 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,479 Speaker 5: never made a team though, I never made an actual team, 804 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 5: so I didn't make the chief. 805 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: What was your forty four four one was moving four for. 806 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 5: One, So I got when I got driveted to the 807 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 5: NFL Europe, I got moved from safety to running back 808 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 5: because I was like two thirty five too, that was 809 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 5: a big safety. 810 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so they were like, yeah, we're gonna go ahead 811 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 4: and running back. So I got moved to running back. 812 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 4: But so what's where I felt Where I felt the pool, 813 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 4: where I felt the cause Again. This whole time, I'm 814 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 4: still writing and so I'm still were still doing music 815 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 4: and I'm writing songs. This was like two thousand and eight, 816 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 4: I think, somewhere around there. And so this was where 817 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 4: when I started. 818 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 5: See the two thousand and eight Yeah, I'd be like, okay, 819 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 5: Titus was out here. And then I started like realizing 820 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 5: and learning about like writing for other people that you 821 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 5: could write for other people. Yeah, and this is why 822 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 5: I'm in training camp. And while I'm like trying out still. 823 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 5: So when I was supposed to be studying my playbook, man, 824 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 5: I'm writing songs. 825 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 4: So I'll never forget. 826 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 5: I was in training camp in Tampa, in my roommate 827 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 5: doing training camp, he studying his playbook. 828 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 4: He hear me write, and so I'm saying, man, what 829 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 4: you uh? What's that was just some songs, right, like 830 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 4: you writing songs. It's like yeah, He's like it sings. 831 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 5: Some more that sounds crazy, like let me hear some one. 832 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 5: So uh, I'm doing that. I'm doing that the whole time. 833 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 5: And then I would go back to like studying my playlis. 834 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 5: But I could feel the music pulling me harder at 835 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 5: that Around this time, I started feeling the music pulling 836 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 5: me harder than football was, which was crazy because it 837 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 5: had always been football. 838 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 4: That was it, that was the only that was that 839 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 4: was my only focus. But I started really. 840 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 3: Feeling it pulling me. 841 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 5: And and I remember because some guys man like when 842 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 5: you when you've done that, whether it's football, basketball, anything, 843 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 5: if you've done something your whole life from a kid 844 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 5: or from middle. 845 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 4: School, and then all of a sudden, one day is 846 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 4: cut off and you can no longer. 847 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 5: So it's like some of the people play in the 848 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 5: NBA or NFL, It's like, all right, you done, Like 849 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 5: you all of a sudden can't get picked up by 850 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 5: a team, So now what do you do with the 851 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 5: rest of your life? 852 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 3: You've done this one thing for so long. Now it's like, 853 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 3: what else are you gonna do? So I've had I know. 854 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 5: People that like struggled with it and had to like 855 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 5: actually get help to like to deal with the mental 856 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 5: the mental aspect of that, like, Okay, how do I 857 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 5: how do I just all of a sudden forget about 858 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 5: what I've been doing and find something else to do 859 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 5: with my life? Thankfully, thank God, like I did not 860 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 5: go through that, because again, like I felt the music 861 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 5: starting to pull me a little tugging on me a 862 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 5: little bit harder than the football. 863 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 3: And so. 864 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 5: When I got cut the last time, when I got 865 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 5: cut from the team, I remember saying to. 866 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 4: Myself, I'm done. 867 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 5: I'm done with I'm not, I'm not, I won't do 868 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 5: any more trials, no, nothing like, and then they try 869 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 5: to I got a call to the Frankfurt Galaxy of 870 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 5: the NFL European League. 871 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 4: They wanted me to come come out like mid. 872 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: Season, and I was like, and how old are you 873 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: at this point? 874 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 4: Oh twenty. 875 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: Two? 876 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty two, I think something like that. 877 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so. 878 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 5: But I but I knew because again at this point, 879 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 5: Titus was sending me tracks, like because we weren't in 880 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 5: the same city, he was just sending me the tracks, 881 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 5: and I write to the tracks, and and I'm trying 882 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 5: to think if Brian was sending me tracks at this time. 883 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 5: I might have been getting tracks from Brian around this time. 884 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 4: But I remember being like, yeah, I'm done, Like, let 885 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 4: me figure out how to do this music thing, like, 886 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 4: let me just figure this out. So I ended up 887 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 4: moving back to k C. I moved back to k 888 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 4: C for a five minute, and I was because I 889 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 4: was still unsure, I like about the whole music thing, 890 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 4: like as far as like, how do you do music? 891 00:47:59,600 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 892 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 5: So what I was gonna do because my dad was 893 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 5: a dentist as well. I ain't seen he was a dentist. 894 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 5: He said, wait, nigga, what he was a dentist? 895 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, I love it. 896 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 3: I love it. He was a dentist. 897 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 4: And so I came back home and then I went 898 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 4: to finish school, finished college. So I was like, maybe 899 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 4: I'll go maybe I'll go be a dentist. So I 900 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 4: started taking courses. Bro, I'll never forget I took. This 901 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 4: is what actually made me be like, you know what, No, 902 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 4: it's not the dentist thing for me. Man. 903 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 5: I took finite mathematics and calculus, and Bro, finite mathematics 904 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 5: and calculus, and I passed with a C. And you 905 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 5: could not have told me it wasn't an A. I 906 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 5: was like, niggas that as hard as this class, I 907 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 5: got a C. 908 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, I probably don't need to 909 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 4: do the rest of this, uh prerequisites, We're gonna go ahead. 910 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 4: The people don't want to see Dennis. They probably want to. 911 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 3: Want to do they don't want to they don't want 912 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 3: to see Dennis. They gonna want that a Dennis, you 913 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 3: know what I mean? 914 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 6: So I, uh yeah, after that, Bro, all the signs 915 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 6: you're getting, all the sign a least you didn't fail. 916 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 1: Though you didn't fail, I. 917 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 4: Didn't feel but Bro, that's he felt like as hard 918 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 4: as I study for it, I was like, yeah, that 919 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 4: took a lot. We're gonna we're gonna go ahead, stop 920 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 4: stop the buzz right here. 921 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 3: You can let me out right here. 922 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 6: So it's it's tight as playing the records for people. 923 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 6: Do you even know if that's happening. 924 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 4: That A little bit after that, A little bit after 925 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 4: that around that had to be like maybe nine nine, 926 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 4: I think it was when it was, because that's when 927 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,720 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, I'm not doing domble school. 928 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 4: Let me like really figure out this music. 929 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, Titus and Brian because I was writing to 930 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 5: Brian's tracks at this time too. 931 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 4: Because Titus and. 932 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 5: Brian when you're in a band together, you remember, they 933 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 5: had a band, the live stuff, and they started but 934 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 5: they started that in KC. So they would like play 935 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 5: it all the like all the spots around k C. 936 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 5: And then I would come out and like singing some 937 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 5: of the joints around the city or whatever. But they 938 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 5: were like, you know, I was like, oh yeah, my 939 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 5: dad was like they out there doing they doing anything, 940 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 5: doing their music. But I didn't as far as I knew, 941 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 5: I thought they were out here like gigging, like like 942 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 5: just playing for. 943 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 3: Oh you didn't know that they I thought it was 944 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 3: like placing records. 945 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 4: I thought it was like playing for people. 946 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 5: I didn't know what placing records was, and I quickly 947 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 5: learned because because Brian like landed something, I think I 948 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 5: gonna see Era and then and then it was Disturbia. 949 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 4: Forever for Chris Brown, and then like it was like off. 950 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 5: And so, yeah, we were doing songs. I was just 951 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 5: I was sending them joints back and forth. And then 952 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 5: I visited out here for the first time. What's that 953 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 5: the first Yeah, it was the first time. My other 954 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 5: cousin and I we visited out here, and then we 955 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 5: were just like doing records, doing songs in the studio 956 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 5: out here. So my first time ever in like an 957 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 5: actual like studio studio, which was dope. 958 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 3: I still remember. 959 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 5: It was off of uh, off of this is the 960 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 5: Lancashim or Violent. It was like a little almost like 961 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 5: a hole in the wall type joint too, though, like 962 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 5: right by that you remember that, like it used to 963 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 5: be like a KFC and a Blockbuster, like right everywhere 964 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 5: and what. 965 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: It's like a weird little where violin intersect intersect. 966 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 5: It was right over the studios, right over there, and 967 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 5: I remember walking in that studio because it was more 968 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,399 Speaker 5: like a little like apartment turned studio. And I remember like, oh, 969 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,239 Speaker 5: so this is a studio. This don't look like the 970 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 5: This don't look like the studios. It don't look like 971 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 5: the pictures. 972 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: Like that might have gave me the wrong pamphlet. 973 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 3: At the right place, y'all might get wrong amphlet. 974 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 5: But we broly locked in and then I went back 975 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 5: to KC for a second and then uh, and then 976 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 5: we ended up doing a deal with Brian and that's 977 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 5: what that's what made the like move official. Actually, it 978 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,800 Speaker 5: was crazy. I moved out here without knowing that I 979 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 5: actually was moving out here full time like that. I'm 980 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 5: just just like I came out and never went back. 981 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,959 Speaker 1: That's kind of how it goes. 982 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah really, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 983 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 4: I still remember my pop's telling me what this was like. Later, 984 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 4: my pop's telling. 985 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 5: Me, I didn't even know you had moved, Like I 986 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 5: thought you just but I didn't even know you had moved. 987 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, me either. 988 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 6: I didn't tell nobody I was moving. Really, I came 989 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 6: to l A and I just didn't go back. Wow, damn, 990 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 6: that's exactly you know what I'm going to figure it out. 991 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 6: That's exactly how I was on this floor. Yeah, I'm 992 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 6: gonna stay at the studio. It's just my mindset at 993 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 6: that time, being a young guy that just yeah, was 994 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 6: looking to fulfill my dream. It was never like oh 995 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 6: yeah yeah. And then we got the moving yeah yeah, yeah. 996 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,919 Speaker 6: I didn't have no friendis shure, he no moving drug. 997 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 3: It was me in my clothes. Dang. 998 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: So you so when you say you did a deal, 999 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: so you. 1000 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 3: Signed publishing deal, you tried to publishing deal with Brian, with. 1001 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 5: Brian Uh, Titus, Caleb, Uh, my cousin Caleb, who was 1002 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 5: also in a to J. 1003 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 4: All three of us, we all ended up. We all 1004 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 4: signed a deal with Brian at the time, a publishing 1005 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 4: deal at the time. And that's what like made the 1006 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 4: whole move like official, official official. But yeah again, like 1007 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 4: I came out here just thinking we're about these songs. 1008 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 6: But then like it was like, oh now he would 1009 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 6: talk you up so crazy, Brian, what man, man, oh 1010 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 6: you got your dayne Browne bro got here doing like 1011 00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 6: he just constantly. 1012 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 5: I still remember the first track that the first song 1013 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 5: we did together, like I wouldn't I hadn't even thought 1014 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 5: about moving out here. He was out here because this 1015 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 5: was I think after his Sea era, but it was 1016 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 5: I think it was before forever and disturbing. 1017 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 3: I still remember that. 1018 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: It was the. 1019 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 5: The level of production compared to like other people I 1020 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 5: would work with, like in Casey or like. 1021 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 3: It was just different. 1022 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: Bros. He talks about that all the time. As far 1023 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 1: as just having local ears. 1024 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 6: Me, it's a thing, sure, having local, It's absolutely a thing. 1025 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 3: It's a thing. 1026 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: Man. You don't realize. 1027 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 3: You don't even realize, not even your fault and so what. 1028 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 4: But before I jumped ahead a little bit before, actually 1029 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:54,919 Speaker 4: before Caleb. 1030 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 5: And I moved out here, we were doing so we 1031 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 5: were writing it. When we were writing some was in KC. 1032 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 5: We were writing him in a bathroom that we turned 1033 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 5: into a studio. 1034 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 4: He had a townhouse and we converted the bathroom. We 1035 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 4: had like a little styrofoam little joints had it up 1036 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 4: the bathroom and that was. 1037 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 3: And that was the move. 1038 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:17,959 Speaker 4: That was the booth. 1039 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 5: We slided slid the microphone in there and then and 1040 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 5: then taught ourselves how to engineer, how to cut the vocals, 1041 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 5: to do all that. 1042 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 3: It was crazy, like he gotta you start figuring out 1043 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 3: your whatever. However, whatever he sets up for you is 1044 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 3: your way is to push record. 1045 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 4: I want to say. 1046 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 5: We started in like fruity loops or something like that though, 1047 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 5: which was crazy, and then and then and then started 1048 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 5: he was really like becoming the engineer, you know what 1049 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 5: I mean, for real, for real. 1050 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 4: And then he was just like it got to. 1051 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 5: A point where he was just like cut me, cut 1052 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,399 Speaker 5: my vocals. And then I would yeah, like the ha them. 1053 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 4: That's where all that's where all that started. 1054 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 5: But it was, yeah, I remember when when we when 1055 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 5: Brian's track started really like coming through like that. 1056 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 4: It would be like, why do you joint sound like 1057 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 4: they're on the radio, like you know what I mean, 1058 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 4: just just different. 1059 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 6: But that was a blessing in itself though, big time 1060 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 6: to have big time someone who already had number one 1061 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 6: records just sending joints back. 1062 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: To k C big time, that big time. 1063 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 6: I always always really loved that about your whole crew 1064 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 6: even and I say crew meaning that just the guys 1065 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 6: that come from Kansas City. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, not 1066 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 6: y'all work together. But yeah, there is this there's a pipeline. 1067 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 6: There's a there's a pipeline to the music business real 1068 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 6: for the talented guys in Kansas City. The way, you know, 1069 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 6: like I meet obviously it starts with with with Vio 1070 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 6: and Damon. But then from meeting Vio and Damon, I 1071 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 6: meet Little Ronnie. From Little Ronnie, I meet Brian, Brian Kennedy, 1072 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 6: I meet you and Titus, And you know what I'm saying, 1073 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 6: you know what's crazy? 1074 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 5: I never which again, like I told you and I 1075 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 5: it might have been just because I because of the 1076 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 5: Thurst Day, I never knew the history of who came out. 1077 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 6: Of a cy you know what I'm saying, like the 1078 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 6: group Talent and Marlin Bro. I never which is I 1079 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 6: found that outlet? 1080 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, and so as far as I knew, like 1081 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 5: at that time, it was like I just knew Brian 1082 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 5: was like out of KC. 1083 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, like you said, Damon, it's a whole. 1084 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 6: It's a man of really really talented guys, especially in 1085 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 6: the R and B space. 1086 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 4: I just as of like we did. 1087 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 5: I spoke on a on a panel back in Kansas 1088 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 5: City like about a year and a half ago, two 1089 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 5: years ago, and just met. 1090 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 3: Jay White. 1091 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, also from there, mad cool like Mad Cole and 1092 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 5: I'm just like, you don't even know each other about 1093 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 5: bro No, no, m hm. 1094 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 1095 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, not at all, man, but but so we yeah, 1096 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 5: it's crazy, like so we were doing that. We would 1097 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 5: we would send stuff back and forth. During the period 1098 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 5: though before when Titus was still in KC. 1099 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 4: We were working out of this studio we working out 1100 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 4: of this guy had built a studio and he was 1101 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 4: tired with this was at the time like where you 1102 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 4: had to save everything on the Titus having to save 1103 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 4: everything on the computer. 1104 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 5: It was a trit and I think he would have 1105 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 5: to save everything on there, all the track on there 1106 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 5: or something like that. And I remember, like this guy 1107 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 5: when we were using the studio, and I remember Titus 1108 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 5: would come in and be like. 1109 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 4: Why am I tracks being erased? How come I we 1110 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 4: just did this last night. 1111 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 3: Now it's not on here. 1112 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 4: Like I think Buddy was erasing his like the tracks because. 1113 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,919 Speaker 5: I think they're like he wanted to do music as well, 1114 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 5: from what I understand, like the guy wanted to do 1115 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 5: music as well. But then Titus just kind of like 1116 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 5: was kind of like really making some leeway and he. 1117 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 1: Was purposely a racist track. 1118 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 4: That's kind of what what we kind of felt like 1119 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 4: might have been. 1120 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 3: I thought you was gonna say, well, he just didn't 1121 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 3: really know, I remember we talked about it. 1122 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 4: Titus would be like, hey man, this is happening way 1123 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 4: too much, like I don't understand what. 1124 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 3: And then and then the ice of the cake. Prophet 1125 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 3: Todd Hall, you know, Prophet to Hall. 1126 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 5: He came to Kansas City one time to our church 1127 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 5: and he prophesied, he said, and he told, he told 1128 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 5: the guy, he said, that studio that you built, that's 1129 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 5: not for you. 1130 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 4: That's for Titus. That's for him. He didn't know Tic 1131 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 4: his name, but he was like, that's for him. So 1132 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 4: then the guys come then that might have put a 1133 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 4: little bit more. 1134 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 1: Studio you built. 1135 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 4: You thought it was for you, but that's for him. 1136 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 4: So the guy's like, well, I guess I need to 1137 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 4: give you a te key, Titus, you know what I mean. 1138 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,479 Speaker 5: But but for some reason, Titus was like we would 1139 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 5: show up the next day after we were work. We 1140 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 5: would write the stuff and show up and like the 1141 00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 5: track is gone. 1142 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 3: That was going on. 1143 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was, it was. 1144 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 3: It was crazy. 1145 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 4: Then right after that time, it was like, you know what, 1146 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,200 Speaker 4: I'm about to just go ahead and get abouy there, 1147 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 4: take it back right back to La. So then he 1148 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,439 Speaker 4: moved right back out here. And that from that point 1149 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 4: right after that little after that we saw. 1150 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: With Brian, your name, your name is is in really 1151 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: high standard. 1152 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 4: I'll tell you this. 1153 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I it really is like I've never met anybody. 1154 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 4: It's like I think it Dawayne. 1155 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: You hear that about a lot of people, the majority 1156 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: of this ship. 1157 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 4: When you really look at it, your name is really all. 1158 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 5: That's all, and it's it's it's almost like a credit 1159 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 5: since either got good credit or you got bad credit. 1160 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 3: If people hear your name and they like. 1161 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: But another part of that too, right, like you can 1162 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 1: be you can be very very gifted and and not 1163 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: check the facts the character box. 1164 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 3: But true, very true. 1165 01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,320 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's such a limited run when they 1166 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 1: finally find reason to not let you die because they 1167 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: don't really want you in that ring again they're tolerating dang, 1168 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So the fact that you 1169 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 1: have the combination of gifting character is like, wow, why 1170 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: you all? You all? You're always going to get the 1171 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: call man man, man, man, wow and and delivered like 1172 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 1: like there's that there's there's there's an art to being 1173 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 1: a joy to be around. Yeah, yeah, right right, there's 1174 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: an art to that. Man, there's an art to walking 1175 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 1: into a room and being appreciative that you're there, working 1176 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 1: like it and acting like it and delivering like it. 1177 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 5: I think also too, like everybody's not a good collaborator. Ye, 1178 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 5: so well, I mean, which is I guess it's really 1179 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 5: what you was es sense of what you were saying. 1180 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 5: But everybody's not a good collaborator. 1181 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 3: So being a. 1182 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 4: Co writer writing with if you're not just doing one 1183 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 4: hundred percenters, you ain't printing this thing out here, you're 1184 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 4: right with other people, you have to know. 1185 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 5: You have to also know the personalities that you're working with. 1186 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 5: Some personalities you have to be able. You you might 1187 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 5: be an A type personality. 1188 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 4: But. 1189 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 1: You have to know. 1190 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 5: Like, there's certain people that I work with where I 1191 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 5: know I need to let them get out whatever it 1192 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 5: is that's up there. 1193 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 4: I know for me, I'm not gonna lose I'm not 1194 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 4: gonna lose it. 1195 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: That's there. 1196 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 4: I know what I'm tapping into what I need having to. 1197 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 5: There's certain people you work with where it's like if 1198 01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,919 Speaker 5: you don't let them just get it out, they lose 1199 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 5: it and. 1200 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 4: Then you no longer have them in the room. They're 1201 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 4: no longer there. But they're no longer there, you know 1202 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 4: what I mean. So to bring the best out of 1203 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 4: who you work, you have to know the personalities that 1204 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 4: you're working with and what brings the best out of 1205 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 4: that person, you know what I mean. Like, I think 1206 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 4: a lot of that, A lot of that goes into. 1207 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: That's a skill in itself, man, that's a skill in itself. 1208 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: You have to listen, you have to watch, You have 1209 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: to then you have to you have to know absolutely 1210 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 1: and then like he said, and still be able to 1211 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: keep your thought. 1212 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 6: Your thoughts exactly, you know what I mean, Because people 1213 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 6: get lost in theirs too, like, oh damn, what was 1214 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 6: I And then if you can identify that that's that 1215 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 6: type of personality and that's the person you're like, like 1216 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 6: you said, let them flush theirs. 1217 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 4: Out, yeah, one one thousand per man. 1218 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 1: And then you know who you can and can't work with. 1219 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: But and then, as we're speaking specifically to Chris Brown, 1220 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: you got to put your track shoes on. The boy 1221 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,800 Speaker 1: is different, man, he's onto the other song sho He's different. Fast. 1222 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's different. Because how how old was he when 1223 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 4: y'all like matter or when y'all worked with it? 1224 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Fourteen? 1225 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 5: He was fourteen, Yeah, which is also too Like this 1226 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 5: is I think people don't, you know, they don't take 1227 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 5: into account like fourteen years old being thrown into a 1228 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 5: music industry where you're like, I remember him telling me 1229 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 5: early on. I think he might have been like fifteen something, 1230 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 5: but when he was just like send him to Atlanta 1231 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 5: and he's working with I forget who all he was 1232 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 5: working with it. 1233 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 3: You get that record deal and they trying to find it, bruh. 1234 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 5: But he's telling me like where they taking him to 1235 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 5: and some of the stuff. He's extracurriculous, as you know. 1236 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 5: And I'm like, as a fifteen year old or fourteen, 1237 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 5: fifteen year old, like, how do you how do you 1238 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 5: how do you deal with the fact that, like you're 1239 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 5: going from cause his story is crazy, like like it 1240 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 5: was almost overnight for him, like from playing. 1241 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,640 Speaker 4: Basketball on his school team to no, no, no, no, 1242 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 4: you you about to you about to go do this? 1243 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But y'all saw it early 1244 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 4: on with him, and I feel like he's just he's different. Man. 1245 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 4: Most people would have been most people you probably wouldn't 1246 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 4: even know, you wouldn't hear from him anymore. You're like, 1247 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 4: what in the world, like if they had gone. 1248 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 5: Through and started that early and then really going through 1249 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 5: a lot of the stuff that that bro's going through. 1250 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 5: I think it the nasty and the determination and the 1251 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 5: resiliency like to keep keep doing you, and not only 1252 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 5: keep doing you, but there's something to whether you're a 1253 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 5: Chris Brown or you a Tank or Dwayne or Jay whoever, 1254 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 5: there's there's something to also knowing how to separate. Okay, 1255 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 5: am I trying to please? No, I'm not trying to please. 1256 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 5: Let me just I mean, let me work for it 1257 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 5: and do who I know rocks with me, and just 1258 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 5: like That's one thing with Chris is I'm like Chris 1259 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 5: knows who his he knows who his fans or Chris 1260 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 5: ain't trying to win over new fans. 1261 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 4: What I'm not trying to win over new fans. I 1262 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 4: know what that I know what that's about. I know 1263 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 4: who's there. 1264 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 11: I know. 1265 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 4: Let me put one hundred percent into that. 1266 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 1: Do you take that same mindset as a writer. 1267 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I don't need to win anybody ever. 1268 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you just trying to write the best song you can. 1269 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 4: That's it. 1270 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 5: If you like it, you like it, I love it great. 1271 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 5: But I'm not trying to win anybody over. If I 1272 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 5: can show up and be the best of me, if 1273 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 5: I can be better than I was yesterday. Missus, you're 1274 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 5: still write every day, absolutely every day, and maybe not 1275 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 5: Saturdays and Sundays. 1276 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 6: Maybe oh so now you okay, maybe not Saturday. The 1277 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 6: entertainment now is during the week. 1278 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:25,919 Speaker 1: Because on the weekend, in terms of TV, the TV, 1279 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: you don't write. No, no, no no, he writes during 1280 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 1: the week. He's still the during the week and then 1281 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 1: on the weekend entertainment, entertainment. Bro. 1282 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 3: I just I love what we do. 1283 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 5: I love. 1284 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 4: I have a love for it. I absolutely love. 1285 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 5: It's something we're not. We're not doctors, we're not you 1286 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 5: know asked, we're not anything like that. But the amount 1287 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 5: of of your brain that you have to use every 1288 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 5: day to get up and come in and do what 1289 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 5: we do and come up with something. You have to 1290 01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 5: make something every single day that doesn't exist yet. 1291 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not out there yet. 1292 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: It's car magic, it's magic. 1293 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 3: You have to literally go. 1294 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 4: You have to wake up every single day and invent 1295 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,120 Speaker 4: something that does not exist. 1296 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 6: We have a friend, we have a friend, very accomplished, 1297 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:29,680 Speaker 6: very successful doctor. Doctor, Come call yourself doctor, Superman. 1298 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 4: Come on, doctor Superman. 1299 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 6: He he told me one time, he said, I retired 1300 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 6: a long time ago. He said, I just I just 1301 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,040 Speaker 6: work with you guys. I was like, what do you mean, 1302 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,120 Speaker 6: You just work with us? 1303 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 1304 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 6: Because I met him through Boys to Men, Oh shoot right, 1305 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 6: And he was like, I just work with I just 1306 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 6: work with entertainers and musicians because the world needs you guys. Wow, 1307 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 6: And we need you guys to live as long as possible. 1308 01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:58,920 Speaker 4: Dang. 1309 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 1: And I never thought about that any. 1310 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 3: Like bro Necessary. We were out in Florida, Bro Me 1311 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,040 Speaker 3: and him riding around. 1312 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 6: And we're just talking about music and about life and 1313 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 6: about you know, the things that he's done in his business. 1314 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 6: And he says, you guys are the only people I 1315 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,599 Speaker 6: want to work with. I'm trying to keep y'all alive 1316 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 6: as long as possible because of what you guys do. 1317 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 1: For the world. 1318 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 5: For the world, you know, because we always say that 1319 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,680 Speaker 5: like what we do ain't brain surgery, we don't, but 1320 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 5: the enjoyment that music gives the world relief. I'm really 1321 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,599 Speaker 5: in the relief relief. I really had never truly thought 1322 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 5: about that until a doctor said that to you. 1323 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 4: So truth, so true. 1324 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 1: He was like, I need y'all to live. 1325 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 3: It's so true. 1326 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 5: Dang wow, what do we have without musicians and entertainers? 1327 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 4: And I was like, damn, that's kind. 1328 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 3: Of so true. 1329 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 9: Bro. 1330 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,759 Speaker 5: Wow wow on a grand scale, on a grand scale, 1331 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:04,080 Speaker 5: on a grand scale, that's amazing. Doctor, super doctor, super doctor, superman. 1332 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 5: Doctor shout out to doctor, come, our God, our God. 1333 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,680 Speaker 5: But I love that real it's just a real thing. 1334 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 5: And and for you to say I love this, I 1335 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 5: absolutely love what I do. I absolutely love. 1336 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,600 Speaker 3: It, and I love like. 1337 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 4: We and y'all both y'all are both you know, no 1338 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 4: matter what genre it is, you know, like being sing 1339 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 4: and all of the like. Bro, Like when you look 1340 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 4: at it, like it all. 1341 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 5: Comes back like that's when I was telling when I 1342 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 5: was little and I thought that I'm listening to like 1343 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,799 Speaker 5: Michael mc donald and I'm listening, it all comes. 1344 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 3: Back to R and B dog. 1345 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 4: It all routed back. It's rooted. It's rooted, and you know, 1346 01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,600 Speaker 4: you put a different voice on it, and you. 1347 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 3: Know what I mean, call it whatever you want, you 1348 01:09:59,080 --> 01:09:59,720 Speaker 3: know what I mean, but. 1349 01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 5: It's that's where the root is. That's exactly where the 1350 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 5: root is. And we're amazing at what we do. 1351 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite song song yeah, that you've 1352 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:16,080 Speaker 1: written that I've written m or proudest moment song wise. 1353 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 4: Dang, you know what, probably residuals with Chris Brown. 1354 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,800 Speaker 3: Because it's because. 1355 01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 5: Chris is the first one like to see him having 1356 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,759 Speaker 5: such a moment and like with him being like the first, 1357 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,840 Speaker 5: the very first you know to ever give me to 1358 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,759 Speaker 5: be like, man, I don't care that you got zero placements, 1359 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 5: like I don't care nothing like and for him to 1360 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 5: always give. 1361 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 4: Me the call like probably that one. 1362 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 1: Explain this, give us that, explain that mothers. That's a 1363 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:04,080 Speaker 1: different type of session. Meteor sho. 1364 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,840 Speaker 6: Nigga, congrats on another Grammy for y'all to appreciate you 1365 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:11,639 Speaker 6: appreciate you man. 1366 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 5: That that one, that one also means a lot, man, 1367 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,719 Speaker 5: because it's with my brother's black tuxedo Domendarius, who y'all 1368 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, have always taken under y'all's 1369 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 5: Wayne you know what I mean. I was telling uh, 1370 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:28,519 Speaker 5: I was telling Eric Dawkins this the other day. Especially 1371 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 5: with them, Man, I say, I say Chris, it means 1372 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 5: a lot of Chris, but it also means it holds 1373 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,680 Speaker 5: the same amount of weight because I did it with 1374 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 5: Domendarius too, And they've been grinding just as long as 1375 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 5: I have and have never changed and have always been 1376 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 5: consistent always, And I think that goes so far so 1377 01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 5: I so I love that. But we we actually wrote 1378 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 5: that song in twenty nineteen, a long time ago, like twenty. 1379 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,439 Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen. He wrote that song. 1380 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Never thought, man, maybe tank, maybe I wasn't fair. I 1381 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 1: wasn't fair. 1382 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,760 Speaker 3: Well you know what you getting in the over underby that? 1383 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 4: You know? 1384 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 3: You know what I said, Nigga, I keep hey, domid Darius, 1385 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 3: they got your numbers? Oh whoa. 1386 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: Did? 1387 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 1388 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: I think he backed the bus up too after he's 1389 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 1: a mongering. 1390 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,720 Speaker 3: Did your brothers right? Let me raise the right? 1391 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:47,559 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 1392 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,519 Speaker 1: Them niggas never played that ship for you. You know 1393 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 1: you mean you know this niggas like no time may 1394 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:03,599 Speaker 1: be at your house? Right, that's race, bro, it's great 1395 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: back the Oh hey, they're still out there. We got him? 1396 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 1: Did we get him? 1397 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 3: They didn't move it? They still didn't move. 1398 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: That's cold. 1399 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,479 Speaker 4: I can't bro no them my brother's man. Twenty nineteen. 1400 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:24,920 Speaker 1: We did that. 1401 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,799 Speaker 4: We did that back in twenty nineteen, and then. 1402 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,280 Speaker 6: Did anybody else have a chance to sing it, because 1403 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 6: if it's a record that's been sitting for that long. 1404 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 4: No, we gave it to Chris right away. 1405 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, Chris had it right away. But Chris sat 1406 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 5: on it though, so that was supposed to be on 1407 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 5: the Breezy album. Okay, Chris had recorded it and then 1408 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,240 Speaker 5: he sat on it, and of course he did his 1409 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 5: thing to it and brought it all the way to 1410 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,160 Speaker 5: life like that. That boy knows how to tap into 1411 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 5: whatever it's necessary. Aliency, it's different. 1412 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 4: And well, Dom and Dom we did it. 1413 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 5: We wrote it and then dom Dom sent it to 1414 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 5: ther legendary Eric Hudson, yes, to. 1415 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 4: To really bring that production of life, which he did. 1416 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 4: You get that guitar right away, just like, oh boy, 1417 01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 4: this is where we're going. So yeah, Chris had cut 1418 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 4: it and then he he he didn't put it on 1419 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:36,559 Speaker 4: Breezy and then yeah, he ended up. 1420 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:38,960 Speaker 1: He didn't have it on eleven eleven. 1421 01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,680 Speaker 3: You're right, dang, you're right. It wasn't on there. 1422 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:55,680 Speaker 1: You want to know when I heard it when sitting 1423 01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 1: at my house. Oh, shoot, as they always are, we 1424 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 1: did this crazy joining on Breezy. Man, he's not even 1425 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: he's not even putting it on the album, and I 1426 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:05,760 Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I was in the mirror. 1427 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 1: They played Residuals. Said Jesus right, I hit c B immediately, 1428 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 1: ship shoot Residuals. Nigga, bro, now what's going on? It's going, 1429 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 1: looks it's going. It's I said, are you kidding me? Residuals. 1430 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:30,719 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 1431 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 4: I wish I knew you had done that, because I 1432 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 4: think that's kind of how you did me on my way. 1433 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,080 Speaker 1: You put me on another Walmart uh deluxe. 1434 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,000 Speaker 4: You said, we talked, we start, we talked about Chris 1435 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 4: right now, you know exactly what Yo, that's crazy works, 1436 01:15:59,479 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 4: it works. 1437 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 1: But I wanted him on the album. I was like, 1438 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 1: where do I put this song? We got a targets 1439 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 1: that's it, target Target. You love targets Target. So you 1440 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: hit Chris immediately when you hit the record immediately. I 1441 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: wish I knew that, Wow, immediately. I wish I knew 1442 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 1: that because I want to say, because because I hit him, 1443 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,800 Speaker 1: because I wanted to make sure he needed it. He 1444 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:31,720 Speaker 1: needed You don't because if you don't, I wait, dude. 1445 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,719 Speaker 5: I wish I knew that you had done that. Because 1446 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,599 Speaker 5: Black TuS ended up giving people publishing on that record 1447 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,280 Speaker 5: that I have nothing to do with that record. 1448 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 4: Huh. And and and because from what I was told, 1449 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,360 Speaker 4: the play was run another way. But I wish I 1450 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,360 Speaker 4: knew that because I'm like, keep your publishing, you know 1451 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,280 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. No, I believe you one thousand percent. 1452 01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,600 Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying. I was like, what is going on? 1453 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 4: That's crazy, that's absolutely crazy. 1454 01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 1: And listen, you know that's amazing. 1455 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 4: What a song. Thank you, Thank you so much. 1456 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,880 Speaker 1: You know what, what else is fucking song? 1457 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 5: From what I was told, they also played it for 1458 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:19,240 Speaker 5: Usher and Usher passed on it. From what I was talking. 1459 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 5: From what they told me, Usher passed on it because 1460 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,840 Speaker 5: Chris has sat on it for so long, sat on 1461 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 5: the record for a while. 1462 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 6: And it's twenty twenty five. I know, that's crazy. Yeah, 1463 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,679 Speaker 6: came out in twenty twenty four. Yeah, in a while, Yeah, 1464 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 6: five years, long time time. 1465 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:37,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1466 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,560 Speaker 1: Listen, Yeah, thank you, listen. Thank I heard it in 1467 01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,639 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. That had to be Yeah, that had 1468 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 1: to be said. 1469 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 4: That's going on. 1470 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,759 Speaker 1: This isn't This is one of the most incredible records 1471 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:52,120 Speaker 1: I've heard. 1472 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:57,839 Speaker 4: Man, listen this challenge that you listen. Oh my gosh, 1473 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:00,560 Speaker 4: I have ever seen nothing like that. 1474 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,639 Speaker 1: I haven't seen nothing like that. And I do challenges, 1475 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: I have not seen nothing like this because this song, Wow, listen, 1476 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,759 Speaker 1: I call the soldiers, you know, I call the soldiers 1477 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 1: in can't and and and they show up and get 1478 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 1: the shooting right. But this is different. The power of 1479 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,719 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, the power of this song right has brought 1480 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:32,559 Speaker 1: everybody out, man. Yeah, in a way like I've never seen. 1481 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 1: And and normally, you know, a challenge goes and it 1482 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 1: and it just it will just die off in about 1483 01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 1: three or four days. They won't stop. I'm still posting 1484 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,720 Speaker 1: two more. Yeople literally text me theres I'm like, I 1485 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:56,800 Speaker 1: have nothing to do, brother, not you. I'm going to 1486 01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:07,600 Speaker 1: start texting back, can't. Yeah, that's what you definitely posted. 1487 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:14,760 Speaker 1: Know how much static post? Want much static postcars? You 1488 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: want to get on the feed. 1489 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna even I'm not gonna offer tanks 1490 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,080 Speaker 6: feed off in minds, I like to be on my page. 1491 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 14: You know what, you'd have to cash out right away too. 1492 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:32,559 Speaker 14: They said, I promise you you won't get on right bands. Hey, 1493 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 14: I promise you two days, bro. 1494 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:36,519 Speaker 1: You know what. 1495 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,639 Speaker 5: Domind Darius went on the roll that for like because 1496 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 5: the day before we did residuals, they did go girl friend. 1497 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,760 Speaker 5: I think I think that's what they told me that 1498 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,599 Speaker 5: they did that. Like and Mike Jay, who's another man. 1499 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike is one another one of our brother Mike is. 1500 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 4: One that I want to like, really win so bad. 1501 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 4: I don't know, nobody likes the man. 1502 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time for that part of it. Bro. 1503 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:12,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's he's insane, absolutely insane man. 1504 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:16,360 Speaker 3: But but yeah, they they just they're in their bag. 1505 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 1: Are you excited for for the first performance check to come? 1506 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 1: Were you at as I would be a podcast? Are 1507 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:33,280 Speaker 1: you are you anticipating? You know what an influx? I 1508 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 1: welcome its capital. I welcome that with open arms. Do 1509 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: you have your mind anything particular? You would like to buy? 1510 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,559 Speaker 3: Real estate? More real estate, more real estate? 1511 01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, thing like a this is man. 1512 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:58,560 Speaker 3: If only Junior could have passed, we wouldn't. 1513 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:04,640 Speaker 1: Get these great get the real estate. I like what 1514 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 1: you're saying, but I learned from y'all. Feel like there's 1515 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,720 Speaker 1: something else you would buy. I feel like you're gonna 1516 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 1: do the real estate. You can do the responsible thing, 1517 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,200 Speaker 1: but give me, give me the irresponsible thing that you 1518 01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 1: have to get off. 1519 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:18,559 Speaker 4: I'm really responsible. No, no, I don't. 1520 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,640 Speaker 3: So you didn't when you got when you got your 1521 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,040 Speaker 3: first when you got your first check, you. 1522 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 1: Didn't do that. 1523 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,640 Speaker 5: You haven't done anything. You know what I did with 1524 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:31,320 Speaker 5: my very first, like decent size check. I got a 1525 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 5: car so I didn't have to walk to record place 1526 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 5: so I didn't have to like have my lady drop 1527 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,840 Speaker 5: me off a record play. And there's that, and and 1528 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,080 Speaker 5: that was the first thing, A nice one. What did 1529 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 5: I get from my first? Now it was just at 1530 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:45,599 Speaker 5: that time a and B car. 1531 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:46,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. 1532 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 4: I think it was just like a Volkswagen at that time. 1533 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:50,840 Speaker 1: At least put some rims on. 1534 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,120 Speaker 4: Never, we're not gonna do anything disrespectful to it. No 1535 01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,760 Speaker 4: tin the windows they came with it. 1536 01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I'm trying to find the. 1537 01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,600 Speaker 6: Somebody else own to be for you got it? You 1538 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:08,760 Speaker 6: got that part, can't it? Cars don't come to I 1539 01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 6: know I possible, Guy Wild and I went to the 1540 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:15,240 Speaker 6: ship club. You know what they got to know how 1541 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:15,960 Speaker 6: you went to buy it? 1542 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:17,760 Speaker 3: What the strip club? 1543 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,200 Speaker 1: I went to the strip club and showed them that 1544 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 1: I can afford it to be there, not to buy it, 1545 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 1: bought the strip, not that nobody. We're talking about something else. No, No, 1546 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:39,679 Speaker 1: I ain't buy none of that stuff. 1547 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:41,759 Speaker 3: Some new girls. 1548 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 1: That's nicely Yo, A tipping there like I'm doing a 1549 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,599 Speaker 1: little something. Just what's thinking? Give me a hug. 1550 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:12,679 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, bro, oh my lord. 1551 01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:18,040 Speaker 1: All that to say, bro better than me? If I 1552 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,640 Speaker 1: had a residual Jack on the way, you know what, 1553 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,160 Speaker 1: you know what and what I tell you listening like 1554 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,400 Speaker 1: watching his mic, cons need I need two sections and live. 1555 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 1: I need to one for me and one for my wife. 1556 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,960 Speaker 3: Live like I need to if I'm doing not you. 1557 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,720 Speaker 1: Because he got the residuals that are actuals. 1558 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:55,280 Speaker 3: If I had brother the residuals man, his his his 1559 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:56,200 Speaker 3: performance of. 1560 01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,680 Speaker 1: That man incredible, untouched, unmatched, and. 1561 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 4: I look like the whole steadic of it. Like the 1562 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 4: mic came like. 1563 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 1: And show I said, I said, I don't even think 1564 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:17,120 Speaker 1: he knows the special that moment is because it got 1565 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,320 Speaker 1: it got matched out of the universe. 1566 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:20,880 Speaker 4: Man. 1567 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 1: It wasn't like oh, Chris saying to himself or the 1568 01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,280 Speaker 1: team saying, Okay, this is the moment that's gonna go viral, 1569 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:33,840 Speaker 1: then it's gonna snowball. It was just special, and the 1570 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:38,000 Speaker 1: universe said what the fuck is? And I said to 1571 01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,080 Speaker 1: myself a long time ago, even even have a conversations 1572 01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:42,839 Speaker 1: with him. I was like, Bro, if you ever just stop, 1573 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 1: I said, you can whook your ass off, nigga. You're 1574 01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,519 Speaker 1: the dancingest nigga I've ever seen in my life. Now, 1575 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 1: most acrobatic, most nigga. I said, but if you ever 1576 01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:58,760 Speaker 1: just stopped and just singing, they are going to fall 1577 01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,800 Speaker 1: the fuck out. 1578 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, because you gotta ad a p with the w right, 1579 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 6: you gotta ad with it and the wiggle right because we. 1580 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:09,960 Speaker 3: Got the now Chris got the. 1581 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,680 Speaker 1: Now that's the that's singing or something like that. Come 1582 01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 1: o my standing there with that microphone giving them time 1583 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 1: to just man, just watch and observe, appreciate. Yeah, I was. 1584 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:31,639 Speaker 1: I was in concert like this man, nice Dan. Now 1585 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:37,040 Speaker 1: now it's now, it's every level. Now he's mastered every level. 1586 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,960 Speaker 5: I would have loved for him to sing that at 1587 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,519 Speaker 5: the one more time that the grammy I would have 1588 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:49,320 Speaker 5: I would have I think we need that, was we needed? 1589 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,360 Speaker 4: It would have been insane. 1590 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,000 Speaker 1: R and B represent is R and B representative, R 1591 01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:57,360 Speaker 1: and B representative. He needed that? 1592 01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:57,680 Speaker 5: Was it? 1593 01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely? I? 1594 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I love it. 1595 01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,479 Speaker 5: I love it for him and and me and and 1596 01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,640 Speaker 5: Black tex As well again like those are those are 1597 01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 5: my brothers? 1598 01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? And I congratulations real quick. I'm just I just 1599 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about you, sir. You as 1600 01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: an artist, you as a singer. What does that look 1601 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:19,240 Speaker 1: like for you? Man? 1602 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:19,519 Speaker 3: Are you? 1603 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,519 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you going to? I mean it's you 1604 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:28,440 Speaker 1: know what, accidentally right, But I'm saying, do you capitalize 1605 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:33,280 Speaker 1: on that? Because you bro, you have insane musical moments 1606 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,800 Speaker 1: as a creative and and your voice and your your 1607 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:42,080 Speaker 1: your sonic and your signature. It's it's already vibrating at 1608 01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,400 Speaker 1: a level to where you can just jump right in. 1609 01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,920 Speaker 4: I have been thinking about like what that looks like, 1610 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:51,160 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? 1611 01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,920 Speaker 1: And I like the dance. The dance, you know that's 1612 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 1: my area. 1613 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,560 Speaker 5: But you know what that that that is all that 1614 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,720 Speaker 5: all that like acts dental and it's just like but 1615 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,880 Speaker 5: it's been it's been amazing, especially the asscat check change, 1616 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,280 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But get tapping into the 1617 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 5: We did a record last year for this artist's named 1618 01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,920 Speaker 5: Zarl Larson on She's she's a British artist. 1619 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,120 Speaker 4: Uh really big British artists out there. 1620 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:19,479 Speaker 1: But we did. 1621 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,280 Speaker 5: We did a top top fifteen, top ten. I think 1622 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,639 Speaker 5: it was record for her call on on My Love 1623 01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:30,839 Speaker 5: with David Ghetto last year and creating writing the record, 1624 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,080 Speaker 5: it was. It was one of the dopest things that 1625 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,160 Speaker 5: I saw from somebody like Getta. We're writing song. He 1626 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 5: brought in the music that he wanted for the track 1627 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,880 Speaker 5: for and he's like, Okay, this is what I'm looking for, 1628 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:49,920 Speaker 5: so write the song. But then we attacked the verse 1629 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:56,080 Speaker 5: like from a pop angle, well, you know, a dance angle. 1630 01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,040 Speaker 4: He comes in and he's like, no, no, no, no, no, 1631 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:01,479 Speaker 4: this is what I want. 1632 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:06,720 Speaker 5: And he plays the most soul I don't even know 1633 01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,599 Speaker 5: if something from the like seventies, like a mother. 1634 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 4: Voice, like oh, like super strong, like you. 1635 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:13,640 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 1636 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,840 Speaker 4: And then that was the approach I took on the 1637 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,479 Speaker 4: verse for it for Zara. And then he comes in. 1638 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,080 Speaker 4: He's like, yes, yes, it was a. 1639 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:22,720 Speaker 1: Super R and B. 1640 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,680 Speaker 5: It was an R and B verse all the way 1641 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,760 Speaker 5: through and through. He's like, yes, this is it, and 1642 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 5: then she cuts it and then it doesn't. It's what 1643 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,840 Speaker 5: we were saying earlier. It doesn't come off so R 1644 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,519 Speaker 5: and B for her to wear her audience is like 1645 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,240 Speaker 5: it's too R and B, but it's an. 1646 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:39,560 Speaker 4: R and B. 1647 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,200 Speaker 5: The prop wrote the whole thing like approach wise, we 1648 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:47,760 Speaker 5: wrote the whole verse as an R and B soul record. 1649 01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:48,080 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 1650 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,760 Speaker 5: So I think it's what again again. It all comes 1651 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:56,439 Speaker 5: back to It comes back to that. There's a group, 1652 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,280 Speaker 5: and I'm talking that's on the dance front. Then on 1653 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,160 Speaker 5: the country front. There's a group called They that I 1654 01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,840 Speaker 5: did a lot with on their last couple albums. But 1655 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,519 Speaker 5: we did an album in twenty twenty one called the 1656 01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,960 Speaker 5: Amanda Tape. If you haven't heard it, go listen. It's 1657 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,640 Speaker 5: an amazing project. But we do the Amanda Tape and 1658 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:24,960 Speaker 5: then the amazing, amazingly talented Casey Musgraves in Nashville. 1659 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:26,360 Speaker 4: Here's the project. 1660 01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,639 Speaker 5: And then she reaches out and she's like, Hey, love 1661 01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 5: this Amanda tape. Would y'all be down to do a 1662 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,320 Speaker 5: week with me in Nashville? Go out and do a 1663 01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,680 Speaker 5: week with her in Nashville, And then we end up 1664 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:43,439 Speaker 5: we end up being the only not only outside writers black, 1665 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,200 Speaker 5: Drew Love, Dante and myself the only black people on 1666 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,639 Speaker 5: that whole country album and one number one number one 1667 01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:55,120 Speaker 5: country album. But we were the only black people that 1668 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,840 Speaker 5: she brought in on. She does everything with just her team. 1669 01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,439 Speaker 5: But she did that and then she she was like, Yo, 1670 01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:02,360 Speaker 5: are you okay if I just leave your backgrounds on 1671 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:02,800 Speaker 5: the record. 1672 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:03,800 Speaker 3: I was like absolutely. 1673 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,000 Speaker 5: So it's like if the song starts off with me 1674 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,479 Speaker 5: and then and then her, and I'm like absolutely, And 1675 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,320 Speaker 5: she jumps on the record with them with the group 1676 01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,479 Speaker 5: day and she features on there that So it's just, 1677 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:17,920 Speaker 5: you know, it all comes back to R and B. 1678 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,360 Speaker 4: It always is gonna come back to R and B 1679 01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 4: when you look at like the Beavers and and. 1680 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,280 Speaker 5: You know, and seeing all that, like R and B 1681 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 5: y'all were probably writing R and B songs when y'all 1682 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:32,160 Speaker 5: were doing that stuff. 1683 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:32,800 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 1684 01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,720 Speaker 6: For sure, the approach on it, you know what I 1685 01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:39,439 Speaker 6: mean for sure? I mean it's just mm hmm. Whoever sing, Yeah, 1686 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:40,599 Speaker 6: and you put a different son. 1687 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,639 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely tinker with being an art that you're gonna 1688 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:46,559 Speaker 1: we're gonna. 1689 01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 5: Figure out what that listens. It looks like, yeah, we're 1690 01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 5: gonna see what that looks like. Yeah, yeah, I think so. 1691 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean listen because it's I always say, even I 1692 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,720 Speaker 1: tell Domdjaris, I said, listen, it's something to being in 1693 01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:00,280 Speaker 1: the crowd and sing your song, perform and a way 1694 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,240 Speaker 1: that's life changing in that room. Yeah, and then there's 1695 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:06,800 Speaker 1: something to you actually being on the stage that song 1696 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 1: that is changing the lives of everybody in that room. 1697 01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:11,639 Speaker 4: Wow. 1698 01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:17,160 Speaker 5: So it's like like, Okay, I'm sorry because I don't 1699 01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,479 Speaker 5: know like how far you're this guy goes back, but 1700 01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:23,400 Speaker 5: it was maybe I deserve your first like hit, Yes, okay, 1701 01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,000 Speaker 5: you know you talk about how music can take you back, 1702 01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 5: like maybe I deserve I remember that in I think 1703 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:33,240 Speaker 5: eighth grade like that, like boom, that's a that's a 1704 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 5: core memory, you know what I'm saying like that, maybe 1705 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:45,800 Speaker 5: I deserve slowly, Oh my gosh, bro honestly. And I 1706 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,120 Speaker 5: think it comes back to again what I said about. 1707 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:49,200 Speaker 4: You have to love what it is you do. 1708 01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,000 Speaker 5: That's a long jevity when you really look at when 1709 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,640 Speaker 5: you really look at it, how many people do you 1710 01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,599 Speaker 5: know that started when you were starting that are still 1711 01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:00,080 Speaker 5: doing still doing this and not out of you know 1712 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 5: what I mean, like because they can't. 1713 01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:04,040 Speaker 1: It's not a lot. 1714 01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:05,600 Speaker 4: I can guarantee you, and I don't even know if, 1715 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,280 Speaker 4: but I can guarantee you it's not a lot. 1716 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:08,920 Speaker 1: I love all of this shit. 1717 01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:10,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you you. 1718 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,080 Speaker 1: What happens is and what I've noticed is that the 1719 01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 1: one thing that can happen is you can get burnt 1720 01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:22,080 Speaker 1: out with the process man, man of creating and coming 1721 01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 1: up with new and rebranding, and long studio hours and 1722 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:30,800 Speaker 1: photo shoots, video shoots, all of these things can get 1723 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 1: They can get tiring old. Wow. Even though you love 1724 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:39,120 Speaker 1: the music, the idea of it, the you know, the 1725 01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,080 Speaker 1: initial reason why you fell in love with it, but 1726 01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:45,200 Speaker 1: everything surrounding it drains you. It can take from you. 1727 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,200 Speaker 1: I can only speak for them. I do not speak 1728 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:49,439 Speaker 1: for me. 1729 01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,800 Speaker 3: Come on now, I love that. 1730 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:54,080 Speaker 4: That's amazing, man. 1731 01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:56,600 Speaker 1: But it shows, and I keep up with all of it. 1732 01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,320 Speaker 1: It shows, whether it be production, whether it be whether 1733 01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:04,000 Speaker 1: it be dripped, whether that's staging, whether it be lighting. 1734 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm in tune with all of it. 1735 01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,639 Speaker 5: But that's also a common thread that I find amongst 1736 01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:15,600 Speaker 5: a lot of the greats is you don't feel like 1737 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 5: you're done learning, Like you stay learning. I feel like 1738 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,400 Speaker 5: the ones who are great and absolutely able to keep doing, 1739 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:27,120 Speaker 5: they stay learning. I feel like, whether that's surrounding yourself 1740 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,200 Speaker 5: with people I don't even want to say younger, but 1741 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,320 Speaker 5: just like that, do something that you don't that you 1742 01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:33,040 Speaker 5: don't necessarily do. 1743 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,480 Speaker 1: Is it a younger thing or somebody who's active. 1744 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,599 Speaker 4: Active, Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, facts. 1745 01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,720 Speaker 5: Facts, And then that's the beauty in it, to be 1746 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 5: able to look at somebody that does something totally different 1747 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,679 Speaker 5: than the approach on it is different than your approach, 1748 01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,559 Speaker 5: but then you're able to take that and say, like, look, bro, 1749 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,760 Speaker 5: I remember the first time I worked with King with 1750 01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,560 Speaker 5: Babyface and I'm like, we're writing a song and I'm like, 1751 01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:00,679 Speaker 5: he's like, yeah that and I'm I'm like you sure, 1752 01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:02,040 Speaker 5: and he's like yeah. 1753 01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,280 Speaker 4: I'm like nah, I like what you said. He's like, no, 1754 01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,439 Speaker 4: that's it. I'm like all right. 1755 01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,680 Speaker 5: So then we finished writing there and I'm thinking he's 1756 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,240 Speaker 5: about to go in the booth and sing the song. 1757 01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:12,840 Speaker 4: He's like, okay, going in the boot to it. 1758 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 3: I said, excuse me, I said, you're not bruh. I 1759 01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,080 Speaker 3: was like, oh shoot, I'm. 1760 01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,679 Speaker 1: Just I'm expecting him to go and he's inspired. He's 1761 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 1: like right. 1762 01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:30,559 Speaker 5: It was the most insane, absolutely in saying. But that's 1763 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:32,600 Speaker 5: why I feel like he's has been able to do 1764 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,040 Speaker 5: it for so long too, you. 1765 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:39,640 Speaker 1: Know, brother, Dwayne, Yes, sir, your Top five R and B. 1766 01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:44,840 Speaker 4: Singers, singers, singers. Okay, I tried to remember this. 1767 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,800 Speaker 1: Good to get to wait m hm. 1768 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:58,960 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, hold on yeah quick, okay. One I 1769 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:05,240 Speaker 5: know off the top of my head. Brandy mm hmm. 1770 01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,160 Speaker 5: Okay see Brandy. 1771 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 1772 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 11: Charlie Wilson, Yeah, the Crispy Man, Yeah, Stevie Wonder Yeah, 1773 01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,280 Speaker 11: yeah yeah, Stokely for. 1774 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 1: You better get out of my bag. Let's leave my 1775 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:28,000 Speaker 1: bag alone. 1776 01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:33,479 Speaker 4: That man, that man, I don't know if he gets 1777 01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:34,320 Speaker 4: enough love you. 1778 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,600 Speaker 1: They don't get it, you know. 1779 01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,800 Speaker 5: That was actually my first like concert. I wasn't high 1780 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 5: school junior high school with tights. 1781 01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:43,360 Speaker 3: We got we got it. 1782 01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,719 Speaker 4: I think it was Nissan Stewart that was on tour 1783 01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:54,040 Speaker 4: with him in genuine. This was like probably ninety seventh 1784 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 4: somewhere around there. But yeah, we high school and he 1785 01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:58,479 Speaker 4: was the first one. 1786 01:35:58,479 --> 01:35:59,639 Speaker 3: I was just like he was on the drum. 1787 01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,280 Speaker 5: He did a double drum. He had a double drum 1788 01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:08,920 Speaker 5: set M and Chris Day. Yeah he's a monster, okay. 1789 01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,360 Speaker 5: And then number five. 1790 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:20,840 Speaker 4: He's technically not RV, but he like put me onto 1791 01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:22,439 Speaker 4: all just anyway. 1792 01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:23,480 Speaker 1: J Moss. 1793 01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:29,880 Speaker 4: J Moss just like. 1794 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,360 Speaker 5: There was there was there was when I was growing up. 1795 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,760 Speaker 5: Kimbrell was the thing that like showed me a whole 1796 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,160 Speaker 5: new way of singing, the whole new world. 1797 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:40,679 Speaker 1: And then. 1798 01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,839 Speaker 5: I remember at this at this p a W convention 1799 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,320 Speaker 5: one time they had the talent show It's nothing but Adults, 1800 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,800 Speaker 5: and it was for a cast price, and I got 1801 01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:57,880 Speaker 5: up and saying try me again, and one of one 1802 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,080 Speaker 5: of the talent show for for the pad or whatever, 1803 01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:05,120 Speaker 5: and and she was just the first first thing like 1804 01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:06,880 Speaker 5: show me in the way. And then there was Jams 1805 01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,720 Speaker 5: and I just had never I was just like, what 1806 01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:10,920 Speaker 5: in the world. 1807 01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,840 Speaker 1: It's harmony, I'm gonna bless your soul. Oh shoot, hold on, 1808 01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,160 Speaker 1: it's just okay, just remember okay, I'm gonna bless you. 1809 01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:22,439 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay. 1810 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,000 Speaker 1: Top five R and B songs. 1811 01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:40,000 Speaker 4: That one was tougher. Okay, hey, oh that's tough. When 1812 01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:41,320 Speaker 4: you touched me by Brandy? 1813 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,680 Speaker 1: Why not yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah, why not? 1814 01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:53,479 Speaker 4: Shout out of Daniels and right there was right okay yeah. 1815 01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,760 Speaker 5: To this day, special Brandy was the Brandy was the 1816 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,760 Speaker 5: like like close this thing to a church vocal, but 1817 01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 5: but R and B. 1818 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,400 Speaker 10: She made she put it in perspective, you put it 1819 01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:11,280 Speaker 10: in perspective one thousand put it into that song yea 1820 01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:13,920 Speaker 10: were it was like, oh you can get this all 1821 01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:17,400 Speaker 10: off absolutely in a way that it is. 1822 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,960 Speaker 1: It is classic is it is mind boggling, but it's 1823 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,599 Speaker 1: also classics. 1824 01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:27,600 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yeah, Brandy, when you touched me? The 1825 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 4: whole album was fire okay, h always and forever heat wave? 1826 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,160 Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? 1827 01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:47,080 Speaker 4: Shout tempt Yeah, come back to me. Janet Jackson, Jimmy, Jame, 1828 01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:50,519 Speaker 4: Terry and I love that song, something about that. 1829 01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:52,360 Speaker 1: It's everything about. 1830 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:55,840 Speaker 5: Everything of everything about that. I've got to meet them 1831 01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:57,920 Speaker 5: one day, Like I've never met them, but they. 1832 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,640 Speaker 1: The nicest guys. Yes, oh you can, you can. 1833 01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,320 Speaker 4: They You can look at them and tell that, right. 1834 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:09,360 Speaker 6: They're so unaffected by the mega everything that they've done 1835 01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:10,479 Speaker 6: in their career, like they're not. 1836 01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, them and them and Kenny and l A like 1837 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:21,840 Speaker 4: top of the top, top of the top for me, Like, okay, 1838 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:22,320 Speaker 4: how many is that? 1839 01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:22,680 Speaker 1: Two? 1840 01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:23,479 Speaker 3: Three? Oh? 1841 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,000 Speaker 4: Okay, listen, we're moving. 1842 01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:36,840 Speaker 5: Whenever, wherever, whatever. Mactually, yeah, what a song? Yeah, what 1843 01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:37,400 Speaker 5: a song? 1844 01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,120 Speaker 1: Wow song? 1845 01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:47,760 Speaker 4: What a song? And then number five shoot oh man, 1846 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:58,040 Speaker 4: mm hmmm, dang god five is crazy? 1847 01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,280 Speaker 1: What just one more? One more? 1848 01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 4: Man, all right, it's tough. Okay, I'm going to say. 1849 01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:19,160 Speaker 5: Get here Alita Adams, get Here by Alita Adams. Yeah, 1850 01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:23,800 Speaker 5: some about that, Some about that song, Yeah, some about 1851 01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:24,120 Speaker 5: that song. 1852 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:28,160 Speaker 1: Definitely a songwriter, man, listen, you're clear. 1853 01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:34,559 Speaker 3: Song five is tough. Five is tough. 1854 01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:34,880 Speaker 4: Man. 1855 01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,200 Speaker 1: It was a great fucking tunes. 1856 01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,800 Speaker 4: Thank you, brother, thank you, because. 1857 01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:40,679 Speaker 1: The residuous in there. If you feel like you don't 1858 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:43,040 Speaker 1: have all right, be shy about it. 1859 01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,840 Speaker 4: Let's from from from one of the golds himself. 1860 01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:53,559 Speaker 1: I take I promise you you do take that. Let 1861 01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:57,439 Speaker 1: that about the fucking ride that all right? Just make 1862 01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,439 Speaker 1: a voltron your super R and B artists, Right, and 1863 01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,400 Speaker 1: so with your super R and B artists we got 1864 01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,880 Speaker 1: you have to decide which vocal from an artist you're 1865 01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:10,360 Speaker 1: gonna put their performance style, styling the passion of the artists. 1866 01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:15,080 Speaker 1: And then who're gonna write for this motherfucker? Right? One 1867 01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,479 Speaker 1: vocal to make your super R and B artist Just one? 1868 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:18,360 Speaker 4: Who's vocal? 1869 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:30,759 Speaker 1: Joe? Yeah, great vocal, Joe, great vocal. 1870 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,760 Speaker 4: He's another one I feel like doesn't get a lot 1871 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:33,840 Speaker 4: of praise for some reason. 1872 01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:38,120 Speaker 1: But Joe on Army Money Podcast, Let's Go, Let's go, 1873 01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,720 Speaker 1: he's revered. Let's go as a hymn. Yeah, I love 1874 01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:49,360 Speaker 1: that performance style stage Chris Brown, Chris easy light work, 1875 01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:56,599 Speaker 1: styling like drep on stage. Yeah, performance drip. 1876 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,320 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna have to go Chris again, double mine 1877 01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:09,720 Speaker 5: as well, like he just gets flying, yes, flying. 1878 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:15,200 Speaker 1: Sure, double breezy okay. Uh. The passion of the artist. 1879 01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,839 Speaker 7: What if I said Luther for the crazy the sequest 1880 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:25,080 Speaker 7: Luther Man with the Jerry Cirl Listen, Yeah, we're going 1881 01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:25,800 Speaker 7: breezy tho, all right? 1882 01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,000 Speaker 1: What's the the passion of the artists? Who means it? 1883 01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:29,840 Speaker 1: The heart of the artist. 1884 01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,960 Speaker 4: Marvin Gay? Why not Marvin Gay? 1885 01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:36,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? Ship that man, real passion, every word. 1886 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,400 Speaker 4: Real passion. Here was he here, my dear, here, my dear? 1887 01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Well didn't he write that was it for 1888 01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:44,920 Speaker 3: his wife? 1889 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:50,400 Speaker 1: Well he had he had to give it. Yeah, that's 1890 01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,040 Speaker 1: what take this Get off my back. 1891 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:53,960 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 1892 01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,320 Speaker 1: Who's right, who's writing for this? 1893 01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:58,519 Speaker 4: Jimmy James Taylors. 1894 01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:02,479 Speaker 1: Why not? Easy? Why not? That's easy money, easy money, 1895 01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:09,280 Speaker 1: that's easy money. Generational smashes. Five is hard man, Generational smashes. 1896 01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,200 Speaker 1: Let's go. We have the very impoorant part of the show. 1897 01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,439 Speaker 6: Okay, can you tell us a story funnyer fucked up 1898 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 6: a funny and fucked up the only rude to the game. 1899 01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,599 Speaker 1: You can't say no name, not a one, no names, 1900 01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:24,160 Speaker 1: no names. 1901 01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:24,720 Speaker 4: Okay, So. 1902 01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:28,559 Speaker 3: Can it be about me. 1903 01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 1: Whatever? 1904 01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 3: You don't say no names, you can't say nobody else. 1905 01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:39,240 Speaker 4: Name, Okay, okay, okay. So there was there was an 1906 01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:40,800 Speaker 4: artist I was working with. 1907 01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:41,920 Speaker 3: This was early on. 1908 01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,640 Speaker 4: This was I might have been out here, maybe a 1909 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,360 Speaker 4: year out here, I think. 1910 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:54,400 Speaker 5: Mega artists though huge like international internationally, like I had 1911 01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,640 Speaker 5: been working with him for uh maybe. 1912 01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:06,680 Speaker 4: We worked a few times and so we were we 1913 01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:08,720 Speaker 4: were around the same age, I think. 1914 01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:13,080 Speaker 5: But I was living in North Hollywood at the time, 1915 01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:16,920 Speaker 5: off of Magnolia and Denny. 1916 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:17,880 Speaker 4: You know what that raupse is. 1917 01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:18,760 Speaker 3: You know what that was like? 1918 01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,280 Speaker 5: Okay, right off Mannollian Denny. So that I would take 1919 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:28,720 Speaker 5: the North Hollywood train station. I did public transport my 1920 01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,840 Speaker 5: whole like first year out here, So I would take that. 1921 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,120 Speaker 4: I would take that. We were working at Hinton Jim 1922 01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:39,280 Speaker 4: Hinton Studios off on Leabrea. So I took the took 1923 01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:41,559 Speaker 4: the train this one day to. 1924 01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,759 Speaker 5: From North Hollywood to Hollywood and Highlands. So from Hollywood 1925 01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:50,720 Speaker 5: and Island to the station to Henson Studios is maybe 1926 01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:51,840 Speaker 5: a twenty minute walk. 1927 01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,320 Speaker 4: I think, walk something like that. 1928 01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:55,680 Speaker 3: So I walk it. 1929 01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,960 Speaker 4: I get to the studio. We're working, and. 1930 01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:01,280 Speaker 3: We're working. 1931 01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:05,760 Speaker 5: We're working now, I know what time the trains and 1932 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:11,920 Speaker 5: the bus stop running. So so we're working and it 1933 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,240 Speaker 5: gets to be around like eleven o'clock. And again, I've 1934 01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,920 Speaker 5: worked with this person for a handful of times at 1935 01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:24,360 Speaker 5: this point, but the pride in me, I guess it was, 1936 01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,000 Speaker 5: would not ever let me even think about asking this 1937 01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:28,080 Speaker 5: person for a ride home. 1938 01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:31,720 Speaker 4: So I'm kind of watching the clock and I'm like, 1939 01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:35,200 Speaker 4: emn like, train gonna stop here in the bit. I 1940 01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,080 Speaker 4: need to wrap this up. So we wrap up around 1941 01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:39,599 Speaker 4: eleven thirty. 1942 01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,200 Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, cool, say my goodbyes, and I'm 1943 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:44,960 Speaker 5: just like yeah, yeah, you're boom and put my backpack 1944 01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,800 Speaker 5: on and I called myself like leaving out of the 1945 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:51,640 Speaker 5: studio like like that, okay, I'm gonna get out here 1946 01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,760 Speaker 5: before they do. I get out and as I start 1947 01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,760 Speaker 5: walking and I'm getting close to the gate, I like 1948 01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,400 Speaker 5: hear him come out and I'm like, oh, he got up. 1949 01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:04,360 Speaker 4: That quick, okay, So so I like duck off. To 1950 01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,599 Speaker 4: the side so he can't see me walking. I'm like, okay, 1951 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,439 Speaker 4: I can't let them see me walking, just the perception, 1952 01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,679 Speaker 4: like like he gotta he gotta think I'm I drove 1953 01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,000 Speaker 4: up here, and so I'm like duck off. And as 1954 01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:21,960 Speaker 4: he draws by, I'm just gonnam. 1955 01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:21,280 Speaker 3: And he drives out of the gate. 1956 01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:25,000 Speaker 4: I'm like cool boom. So I'm like booking it, booking it, 1957 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,040 Speaker 4: sweating to the to the to the Hollywood Highland station 1958 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:33,320 Speaker 4: and as I pull up, they let the gate down. 1959 01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,680 Speaker 4: They done running to the train for night. 1960 01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,560 Speaker 5: I live off of Magnolia and Dindy in North Hollywood. 1961 01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:44,120 Speaker 5: I didn't have enough money for a cab. There was 1962 01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,760 Speaker 5: there wasn't uber wasn't even running then. I didn't have 1963 01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:47,479 Speaker 5: no money for cab. 1964 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:52,960 Speaker 3: I'm like what, I guess. We walked in New Hollywood. 1965 01:46:54,240 --> 01:46:58,800 Speaker 5: Then I'm walking alongside the one old one at midnight 1966 01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,400 Speaker 5: off the Kawanga passed and I'm just like, bro, God, 1967 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:04,639 Speaker 5: just don't let me get hit. 1968 01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 4: Don't let me get hit. Right now, Bro, I get 1969 01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:11,840 Speaker 4: to bar him. I get to like, I get to 1970 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,200 Speaker 4: bar him. I'm like, I was like, okay, I made it. 1971 01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,560 Speaker 4: There's a sidewalk I made it to a sidewalk. 1972 01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:18,200 Speaker 3: Get to bar him. 1973 01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,200 Speaker 5: I'm like checking my change and I think we got 1974 01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:23,560 Speaker 5: enough to all right, we got enough to get to 1975 01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:24,960 Speaker 5: to Magnolia. 1976 01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:26,920 Speaker 4: So I catch a cab. 1977 01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:33,680 Speaker 5: We get to Langashim and Magnolia, No almost to make 1978 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:37,479 Speaker 5: Lang Magnolia, and I'm I'm watching the meat boy my 1979 01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:40,760 Speaker 5: ball in that joint, so I'm starting to sweat. I'm 1980 01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:44,280 Speaker 5: kind of like this, don't look like this twelve dollars 1981 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,240 Speaker 5: is gonna get me all the way to So I'm 1982 01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:49,479 Speaker 5: watching the joint and we stop at the stop line. 1983 01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:51,639 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, hopefully the meter stopped. 1984 01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:54,280 Speaker 3: The meter is still running. I'm like. 1985 01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,760 Speaker 4: He starts driving, and I'm like two cents away from 1986 01:47:57,800 --> 01:47:58,880 Speaker 4: what I got in my pocket. 1987 01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,880 Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, yeah, okay, all right right here, right here, 1988 01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:04,120 Speaker 5: right here, right here, let me out right here, let 1989 01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:04,599 Speaker 5: me right here. 1990 01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:05,559 Speaker 4: He's like, you sure. 1991 01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:06,960 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm sure. 1992 01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,400 Speaker 1: If you want this much, if you want this money, 1993 01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:11,559 Speaker 1: you want to get paid, If you want. 1994 01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,360 Speaker 3: To get paid, I think you're sure too, so you 1995 01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:15,439 Speaker 3: might be all right there, bro. 1996 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:19,080 Speaker 5: I walked and rested away to my apartment, and so, 1997 01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:24,200 Speaker 5: funny enough, I'm working with the same artists. A few 1998 01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,840 Speaker 5: months back, and I tell him the story. I'm like, bro, 1999 01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,400 Speaker 5: do you know when we were working we were first working, 2000 01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,040 Speaker 5: like and I told him the story, and his dad 2001 01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:34,960 Speaker 5: was out with us, out at dinner with us. 2002 01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 1: And his dad. 2003 01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:38,360 Speaker 4: His dad was a big manager. To his dad said, 2004 01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:41,080 Speaker 4: why didn't you. 2005 01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:43,519 Speaker 3: Just ask for a ride? I had an office in 2006 01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,800 Speaker 3: hensn Why didn't you just have a ride? I said, 2007 01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:47,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't. 2008 01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,240 Speaker 4: About to ask y'all for no rides, or I said, 2009 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,519 Speaker 4: I said, and honestly, you know what, if I do 2010 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:52,040 Speaker 4: it all over. 2011 01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,719 Speaker 5: Again, I probably still wouldn't ask for a ride because 2012 01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:58,680 Speaker 5: because I just the perception for me was I was 2013 01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,720 Speaker 5: bigger than than than my pride, you know what I mean. 2014 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,400 Speaker 4: So I was just like or the same way, the 2015 01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:05,360 Speaker 4: same as my pride, I guess. 2016 01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:07,960 Speaker 5: But I was like, yeah, I said, I said, if 2017 01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:09,599 Speaker 5: I do it all again, I probably still wouldn't ask 2018 01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:11,040 Speaker 5: for a ride because I wanted to. 2019 01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:12,840 Speaker 4: I wanted you to just look at me as I'm 2020 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,280 Speaker 4: you know, I'm here for this, and you know what 2021 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:16,519 Speaker 4: I mean. 2022 01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:17,439 Speaker 3: You didn't need to know that I. 2023 01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,120 Speaker 4: Walked here from from you know. 2024 01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:22,760 Speaker 3: And the crazy thing is he lived into Luca Lake. 2025 01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,800 Speaker 3: It was right around the corner. He definitely would have bro. 2026 01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,680 Speaker 4: He lived in Luca, like literally right by Brian's oh 2027 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,720 Speaker 4: condo right off Legs. Bro lived right there. But I 2028 01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:36,920 Speaker 4: it's it's so funny. So that goes back to you 2029 01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:38,640 Speaker 4: remember when you said what'd you first get with your 2030 01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:39,400 Speaker 4: money that you forget. 2031 01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,479 Speaker 14: I got a car so I wouldn't have to drop 2032 01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:44,639 Speaker 14: so I wouldn't have to walk or worry about knocking 2033 01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:46,480 Speaker 14: on the taxi. 2034 01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:48,000 Speaker 3: Jump out on the taxi. 2035 01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:54,760 Speaker 5: Bro I pulled up one time at at Atlantic when 2036 01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:59,400 Speaker 5: they were off of uh the at the Diane Warren's building. 2037 01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,080 Speaker 4: And saying, this is around the same time. 2038 01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:04,280 Speaker 5: I'm taking public transport and I'm like sweating by the 2039 01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,600 Speaker 5: time I get to the session, like my manager. I 2040 01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:08,760 Speaker 5: was with Tom a Faye at the time. So Tom 2041 01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:10,760 Speaker 5: hits me like, de where you at? Like they they 2042 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:12,519 Speaker 5: asking me where you are. I'm like, I'm almost there. 2043 01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,800 Speaker 5: And so I walk in and I'm drinch sweat shirt, 2044 01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,040 Speaker 5: just drinch sweat and so uh but nobody said nothing 2045 01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,680 Speaker 5: to me. So so I get to working. So then 2046 01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,160 Speaker 5: Tom heard be later he said I said yeah, I said, 2047 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,080 Speaker 5: I said, uh, everything went good. 2048 01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:27,519 Speaker 3: He was like okay. He was like yeah, they were. 2049 01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:28,160 Speaker 3: They were. 2050 01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:29,760 Speaker 5: They were pressing me, wondering where you were. But then 2051 01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:32,839 Speaker 5: they said you walked in sweating and smelling like outside. 2052 01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,040 Speaker 5: And they didn't say nothing. They just like, oh, he's 2053 01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:37,720 Speaker 5: he's straight. He got to hear him get here. He 2054 01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:39,439 Speaker 5: went through a lot to get here, you know what 2055 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:39,800 Speaker 5: I mean. 2056 01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:41,479 Speaker 1: But that that was. 2057 01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:44,920 Speaker 3: Bro, It's how bad. 2058 01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,320 Speaker 5: It's how bad I wanted it, man, And again like 2059 01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:50,960 Speaker 5: I wouldn't have done it any other way, you know 2060 01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:52,920 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, the exact same way. 2061 01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:59,080 Speaker 4: But there's one other one. This was short. What you do, 2062 01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:01,479 Speaker 4: it's a it's a This is a producer that. 2063 01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:02,000 Speaker 3: We all know. 2064 01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:08,200 Speaker 5: That I had just left the studio, so I was 2065 01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:10,920 Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't see this happening, but I was 2066 01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,360 Speaker 5: told about it like this that there's a There was 2067 01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:16,800 Speaker 5: a there was another This producer kind of set up 2068 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,519 Speaker 5: shop at this studio, like when I say shop, like 2069 01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:21,000 Speaker 5: low key living there, like. 2070 01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,680 Speaker 4: Like kind of like we're sleeping here too. And so 2071 01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,840 Speaker 4: this producer I know was working late one night. 2072 01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,040 Speaker 5: And then the other producer I'm talking about, I guess 2073 01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,920 Speaker 5: thought nobody else was there at the studio, like it's 2074 01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:34,280 Speaker 5: just him. 2075 01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:36,160 Speaker 4: So he had a little beat, a little beat down 2076 01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:39,240 Speaker 4: in the joint. So finished doing what he was doing, 2077 01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:42,599 Speaker 4: and uh, he walked. 2078 01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:43,000 Speaker 1: Out of one room. 2079 01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,040 Speaker 5: The other producer who was still working there to eat 2080 01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,280 Speaker 5: the nose that he walks out of the room and 2081 01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,960 Speaker 5: the producer walks out butt naked with church socks on 2082 01:51:52,800 --> 01:52:00,960 Speaker 5: black church another producers. They look at look at each other. 2083 01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:08,519 Speaker 5: You look back, look at you, he said, church elections 2084 01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:08,840 Speaker 5: going on. 2085 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:16,679 Speaker 1: That's great and we all we know who is great, 2086 01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:28,000 Speaker 1: Stacy Adam's holsery. Is that what we're doing? Crazy? 2087 01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:28,200 Speaker 9: Bro? 2088 01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:30,120 Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, I'm glad I missed 2089 01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:32,840 Speaker 4: that one that He was like, yeah, it's crazy, Bro. 2090 01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,880 Speaker 1: You've done some I mean, you've done some amazing work 2091 01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:41,960 Speaker 1: out here. You you continue to do amazing work. My brother. 2092 01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:44,920 Speaker 1: We hear you, we see you, and I'm glad that 2093 01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:51,080 Speaker 1: we're able to magnify and amplify that man. And it's 2094 01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,960 Speaker 1: more importantly like put a put a real face to 2095 01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:58,439 Speaker 1: the name. Yeah, man, you you deserve to be walking 2096 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:01,400 Speaker 1: in the airport and walking through the mall and people 2097 01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:04,280 Speaker 1: like that's that guy that did X, Y and Z, 2098 01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:07,840 Speaker 1: and you you deserve that, man, because your your your 2099 01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:11,280 Speaker 1: presence is of value. And and that's why we have 2100 01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:11,960 Speaker 1: you here. Man. 2101 01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:13,800 Speaker 4: You so appreciate you. 2102 01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:18,000 Speaker 1: Please please keep doing that ship. 2103 01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,160 Speaker 4: Yes sir, Yes, sir, I definitely will. And I'm going 2104 01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,000 Speaker 4: to talk to Black Text and we're gonna get you 2105 01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:22,719 Speaker 4: that next record. 2106 01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm around. I'm around. Absolutely hate me for 2107 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:39,160 Speaker 1: a long time. Ladies and gentlemen, I have mistake. I'm nobody. 2108 01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:46,639 Speaker 1: This is the Harmy Buddy podcast, the authority on all 2109 01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:50,920 Speaker 1: things R and B. It's been Pentecostal up in here. Yeah, 2110 01:53:55,720 --> 01:54:02,360 Speaker 1: on the weekend. To appreciate y'all. 2111 01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:04,960 Speaker 3: Man, appreciate y'all much love,