Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbo call that for me.
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty.
Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to
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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for Dake Edith State. Is
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to these solid verbal boys and girls. My
Speaker 3: name is Ty Hildebrand. Joining me over there on the
Speaker 3: far side of the us of A. Your friend, our
Speaker 3: friend Dan Rubenstein has got a little bit of a
Speaker 3: vocal issue going a little bit of Baker Mayfield going
Speaker 3: on in that larynx.
Speaker 1: Dan, how you doing? You know when you spit so
Speaker 1: much fire?
Speaker 2: Tie?
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you when you are the dragon of wrong,
Speaker 1: college football takes it takes a toll on one's voice
Speaker 1: box on the chords. And you know, I've been pumping
Speaker 1: tea and lozenges and NonStop correct football information into my
Speaker 1: brain and my body, and I managed I was actually
Speaker 1: unsure this morning. Yeah, And I apologie to everybody who
Speaker 1: is now disappointed that they didn't get Andy Staples or
Speaker 1: Bill Hancock or whoever is on your speed dial to
Speaker 1: replace I was.
Speaker 3: Going to say, possible back up better than the starter Saturday.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean without a doubt, but I
Speaker 1: am able. I am here. I have lots of college
Speaker 1: football opinions. And that's good because one you're probably on
Speaker 1: a plane or train or automobile or trying to drown
Speaker 1: out your in laws while listening to us and so
Speaker 1: authentically Rivalry Week when let's assume wherever you are, all
Speaker 1: of the records are thrown out.
Speaker 3: Yes, well you got to throw them out. Here's a sound,
Speaker 3: got to throw those records out right out of the choot.
Speaker 3: Here we throw the records out.
Speaker 1: There's so much action there, there are so many emotions
Speaker 1: going into Rivalry Week that I wouldn't dare do anything
Speaker 1: but try my absolute best to show up, because that's
Speaker 1: what ninety percent of things. The other ten percent is
Speaker 1: just me being wrong. And I'm happy to do it
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Speaker 3: by now, we cut those up. We put them together
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Speaker 3: do our Rivalry Week recap show on Sunday morning. Daniel,
Speaker 3: I like.
Speaker 1: That consistently every year. If you probably listen back for
Speaker 1: a week whatever fourteen fifteen, when it is the week
Speaker 1: of these rivalry games, you consistently stumble over rivalry liek Okay.
Speaker 3: Ours are very difficult to say.
Speaker 1: They're difficult for everybody, but I love that you have
Speaker 1: not you have not changed over the years. Ty. You
Speaker 1: give the people something familiar. And now can we just
Speaker 1: as we get into the games, can we introduce the
Speaker 1: fact that we're getting into the games for all the
Speaker 1: people who listen on like one and a half speed,
Speaker 1: double speed, and start and introduce it very slow. Let's
Speaker 1: do it, Dan, let's just jump right in.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you don't have any other news tidbits that
Speaker 3: you need to discuss, so we sho just jump right in.
Speaker 1: Tony Sanchez was let go from UNLV, Bob Davey won't
Speaker 1: be back at New Mexico, and no high profile jobs
Speaker 1: have been filled as of yet, although I have noticed
Speaker 1: that the Bob Stoops Florida State rumors are going down
Speaker 1: a conspiratory. I could not be more thrilled for the
Speaker 1: meeting of the one percent loan of the Florida State
Speaker 1: fan base, with the coaching rumor, with a high high
Speaker 1: reach of a candidate who's not coming to Tallahassee. I
Speaker 1: love that marriage and I hope it lasts forever.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we will get into that on our
Speaker 3: Tues cruise show.
Speaker 2: Yes, But for.
Speaker 3: Now, Dan, we have a loaded slate in front of us,
Speaker 3: has said it a few moments ago. This is typically
Speaker 3: the week where we've got the longest list of games
Speaker 3: to get through. And look, it's not because all of
Speaker 3: them have national significance. A lot of them have local significance.
Speaker 3: But college football is very local, and that's part of
Speaker 3: the challenge of doing this show on a national level.
Speaker 3: How do we touch all those games that matter to people.
Speaker 3: So when we get to week fourteen and we start
Speaker 3: talking rivalries, of course you throw the.
Speaker 1: Records out, right, we know that obviously, always, always, always, always, But.
Speaker 3: You don't just throw the records out for games like Michigan,
Speaker 3: Ohio State. You also throw them out for North Carolina
Speaker 3: and c State. You throw them out for Georgia Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3: We'll get into all those games, certainly as much as
Speaker 3: we can in the time that we have a lot.
Speaker 3: And with that being said, it is a difficult situation
Speaker 3: to try and name this Saturday. I suspect there are
Speaker 3: a number of different directions we could go with it.
Speaker 3: Of Course, it's a little cliche to go with the
Speaker 3: food theme, being so it is Thanksgiving, yet it does
Speaker 3: fit very well Daniel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was just gonna, you know, sack
Speaker 1: the record Saturday. I'm just gonna lean in, sack the record,
Speaker 1: Sack the records Saturday.
Speaker 2: Tie.
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, I don't want to veer too
Speaker 1: far away. I mean, you have headliner games, you have
Speaker 1: games that will potentially affect major postseason situations. But in
Speaker 1: the end, I even take a little exception with you
Speaker 1: using the word local, because all rivalries matter like this.
Speaker 1: It's not if you like college football at all, you
Speaker 1: like the fact that there there is a weird history
Speaker 1: in the Civil War, then you know the battle for
Speaker 1: the Old Oaken Bucket and Pharmageddon and the Territorial Cup
Speaker 1: and Commonwealth Cup like this, it shouldn't just matter to
Speaker 1: people in those specific metropolitan areas. Tie.
Speaker 3: This is I agree.
Speaker 1: All It's all just wacky and wonderful and worth celebrating.
Speaker 1: So it's sacked the Record Saturday. As far as I'm.
Speaker 3: Concerned, Sacked the Records Saturday is not bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you do you know about slytherin?
Speaker 1: Is that a word that you're familiar with? Do a
Speaker 1: Slytherin Saturday?
Speaker 3: Slit? Wait, you're asking me if I'm familiar with Slytherin just.
Speaker 1: A little bit of a goof as my voice goes.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at our friend Peters Thanksgiving spreadsheet here. As
Speaker 3: I said, it's immaculate. I'm looking for s words. I
Speaker 3: see a smoked beats on here. Sure, I see salad.
Speaker 3: We're not going to go sellas stuffing.
Speaker 1: I mean, we really are stuffing ourselves with college football
Speaker 1: these long weekend.
Speaker 3: I thought this said smoke weed. It says smoke Wednesday. Okay,
Speaker 3: so that's a little different right now. I guess the
Speaker 3: leader in the clubhouse would be sack the record Saturday.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. I like that.
Speaker 1: I am going to keep you. You're not going to
Speaker 1: use stuffing.
Speaker 3: I thought about stuffing, but it's very cleiche and we're
Speaker 3: better than that. I'm going to keep looking through this spreadsheet.
Speaker 3: There are about a thousand lines in this thing, and
Speaker 3: if time permits, I'll go through it or apply some
Speaker 3: of what I find in here to our analysis. But
Speaker 3: for the time being, let's stick with sack the record Saturday.
Speaker 1: And obviously there is there are so many games beyond
Speaker 1: Saturday worth stuffing your face.
Speaker 3: With sore, and that gets us moret our next topic here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so this is also a challenge because you've got three
Speaker 3: days worth of games. You've got a couple headliners between
Speaker 3: Ohio State and Michigan and Auburn, Alabama, even Wisconsin, Minnesota,
Speaker 3: certainly Bedroom Oklahoma, Oklahoma State. Those are the ones that
Speaker 3: really rise to the top for me. I mean, I
Speaker 3: guess it's a matter of on Saturday, when is your
Speaker 3: primary window of opportunity, because you know there are games
Speaker 3: dotted throughout Friday, and I'm sure you can find time on.
Speaker 1: Well, you've got the Thursday, Hey.
Speaker 3: You get the egg ball. I'm sure you could find
Speaker 3: time on each of those first two days, Thursday being
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving and Friday being Black Friday to kind of go
Speaker 3: out and do other stuff. There just aren't as many games.
Speaker 3: But Saturday, Saturday is chock full of pretty much everything.
Speaker 3: And if I'm looking for a window here, I think
Speaker 3: it's later. I think it's after Alabama Auburn. The Alabama
Speaker 3: Auburn game and the Ohio State Michigan game are the
Speaker 3: ones that I care the most about.
Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan is a what big new it's a
Speaker 1: noon or Yeah, Clemson, South Carolina, Paal metos a noon.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Alabama, that's what thrit's of three point thirty.
Speaker 1: I only ask because my time zones are now completely
Speaker 1: whacked that I've been on the West coast for three days. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're trying to translate it on the fly, But I
Speaker 1: think you're right. I mean, Bedlam looks to be an
Speaker 1: eight PM or yeah, Bedlam is like seven thirty eight o'clock.
Speaker 1: I think that promises a lot of unexpected entertainment. But
Speaker 1: we have a backup quarterback in that game. We'll see.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess I would lean that way. But
Speaker 1: try to be back for the second half. Go on
Speaker 1: your date, go into an early movie, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: you know, deal with all of your leftovers, get out
Speaker 1: of your in law's hair. But get back for the
Speaker 1: second half of Bedlam. I think it's gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of weird.
Speaker 3: Let's start with Big Noon on Saturday. We're gonna jump
Speaker 3: around here from Saturday back to Thursday, back to Friday,
Speaker 3: back to Saturday. Just please hang with us here. Let's
Speaker 3: start time.
Speaker 1: Continuum doesn't have a chance.
Speaker 3: That's right. Let's start though, with the big New game
Speaker 3: on Fox on Saturday. It is Ohio State at Michigan.
Speaker 3: You know this game. Well, Ohio State is now down
Speaker 3: to an eight point favorite. This one started a little
Speaker 3: bit higher. Seems like there's some money coming in on Michigan.
Speaker 3: Let's ask I think the operative question here, and that
Speaker 3: is the one we started with in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Can Jim Harbaugh finally get the monkey off his back
Speaker 3: and get a win over Ohio State?
Speaker 1: He can? Yeah? I mean okay, So first off, big
Speaker 1: picture for all of these games, whether they're big or small,
Speaker 1: let's make sure we talk about like, what's on the line,
Speaker 1: What are the stakes? What is a successful performance short
Speaker 1: of winning if one exists, because I don't think successful
Speaker 1: performance sort of winning exists for Michigan in this game.
Speaker 1: Can a team put a fear of God factor in
Speaker 1: another team? That kind of thing? So, yes, Michigan can
Speaker 1: win this game. You know how I feel, And sometimes
Speaker 1: it happens to be right. I think it's better for
Speaker 1: gambling purposes than actual outright purposes. Good defense at home
Speaker 1: as a dog in a tough place to play, which
Speaker 1: Michigan Stadium can be. Shape Patterson is the clear best
Speaker 1: quarterback Ohio State will face, at least during the regular
Speaker 1: twelve game portion of their season. Yes, the current iteration
Speaker 1: of shape Patterson. I think so current iteration, Yes, current
Speaker 1: iteration of shape Patterson. We seem to be seeing the
Speaker 1: most comfortable version of him in this new offense that
Speaker 1: we've seen all year long. He looks to be peaking.
Speaker 1: The Penn State score for Ohio State I think was
Speaker 1: a little misleading because of turnovers, because Ohio State controlled
Speaker 1: that game, but turnovers exist, Hi, it'd be stupid to
Speaker 1: say that, you know, putting a big asterisk on the
Speaker 1: final score. I think Michigan can hang in this game.
Speaker 1: I think Michigan can get theirs. I think they can
Speaker 1: force Justin fields to be uncomfortable. We've seen what Penn
Speaker 1: State and Wisconsin did with a good pass rush in
Speaker 1: changing the field and making Justin fields uncomfortable between terrific
Speaker 1: scrambles and amazing third down throws. I think Michigan ultimately
Speaker 1: keeps it close, but just doesn't get there because of
Speaker 1: how strong and fundamentally sound Ohio State's defense is in
Speaker 1: defending what I think are a lot of improved playmakers
Speaker 1: for Michigan. So I have it as Buckeye's twenty seven
Speaker 1: Michigan twenty four I'm going to take the points. Wow,
Speaker 1: in a game that looks to be it has a
Speaker 1: wintry mix and it should be in the thirties, so
Speaker 1: weather should play a factor, and I think that actually
Speaker 1: favors Ohio State a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean typically on rivalry week, taking the points
Speaker 3: is not a bad stance, correct, It's not a bad stance.
Speaker 3: And look, Michigan's playing with some momentum right now. They
Speaker 3: were like a nine, nine and a half point dog
Speaker 3: when I made out my document. Now it's down to eight.
Speaker 3: So clearly it didn't surprise me a couple of days ago,
Speaker 3: doesn't surprise me now that Michigan's a bit of a
Speaker 3: trendy pick here. It would surprise me though if they won,
Speaker 3: and that's for two reasons. First off, Michigan still isn't
Speaker 3: a great running team, and I understand the offense is
Speaker 3: a little different now and it might not be predicated
Speaker 3: as much on the run, but either way, due to
Speaker 3: their lack of efficiency there, it puts more pressure on
Speaker 3: shape Patterson and like you said, he's been playing his
Speaker 3: best football over the last couple of weeks. The offense
Speaker 3: is like a thousand percent better now than it was
Speaker 3: the start of the season, and they are playing with
Speaker 3: a lot of confidence. I just can't shake the feeling
Speaker 3: that the most likely path for Michigan falls solely on
Speaker 3: defense and solely on shape Patterson, and that to me,
Speaker 3: that formula does not feel like it's enough to win.
Speaker 3: Could it be enough to cover, sure, but on his face,
Speaker 3: those two things alone do not strike me as being
Speaker 3: enough to beat Ohio State. And then secondly, I think
Speaker 3: the Ohio State running game, that that combination of Justin
Speaker 3: Fields and JK. Dobbins and some of master fatigue that
Speaker 3: can strain this Michigan defense. They've got some home run
Speaker 3: hitters in Columbus, and just that combination of Justin Field,
Speaker 3: what he can do through the air and with his legs,
Speaker 3: it makes that rushing attack very difficult to stop. You
Speaker 3: got to cover a lot. Michigan's already got a propensity
Speaker 3: to give up some big plays on the ground, and
Speaker 3: I think that aspect of this game is something that
Speaker 3: could come back to bite them here. I know I
Speaker 3: said at the start of the year that Michigan was
Speaker 3: going to win this game. I am taking that back.
Speaker 3: I also am really close to locking up Ohio State here.
Speaker 3: I think it's something like thirty one seventeen, maybe the
Speaker 3: same exact prediction I made a week ago against Penn State.
Speaker 3: But this line feels incredibly low to me for an
Speaker 3: Ohio State team that I still think, yeah, maybe one
Speaker 3: of the best we've seen. I really feel that way.
Speaker 1: So okay, So the other thoughts I would add to
Speaker 1: this is a Michigan win looks like basically hitting on
Speaker 1: some big plays and tightening up in the red zone
Speaker 1: and turning Ohio State sevens into three or three attempts.
Speaker 1: And Michigan's not great in the red zone at least
Speaker 1: over the course of the entire season. It's been a
Speaker 1: pretty inconsistent ride when pushed and having to defend their
Speaker 1: own goal line, So I'm not wild about that fact.
Speaker 1: But again, I think Michigan's defense is good enough to
Speaker 1: try and force Justin Fields into beating them downfield, which
Speaker 1: is pretty difficult, and it's something that Ohio State has
Speaker 1: not been counted on like this. Ohio State is a
Speaker 1: running team that Justin Fields is part of that, and
Speaker 1: he makes situational great place. We saw these some great
Speaker 1: touchdown throws against the better teams on their schedule, but
Speaker 1: this isn't a downfield team. How did they beat you know,
Speaker 1: largely Michigan last year those crossing routes that they were
Speaker 1: just getting the ball to speed quickly and turning eight
Speaker 1: yard catches into nineteen yard after the hetch runs, I
Speaker 1: don't think. And by the way, Don Brown and Ryan
Speaker 1: Day on the same staff at Boston College, I believe,
Speaker 1: so very familiar with each other. I think Michigan will
Speaker 1: get that short up and they're a good pressuring team.
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be ahead late, and I
Speaker 1: think Ohio State's gonna come back and win it, and
Speaker 1: we're going to see a new element of the Buckeye.
Speaker 1: So I have twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, that would be fun. Yeah, that'll be fun. Right,
Speaker 3: that'd be fun. I'm not rooting against it, but I
Speaker 3: say thirty one seventeen Ohio State wins and covers. Let's
Speaker 3: move on to the Iron Bowl Saturday, three thirty CBS.
Speaker 3: It is Alabama at Auburn. Alabama is a three and
Speaker 3: a half point favorite. Dan, Okay, so you want to
Speaker 3: talk about implications. There are potential playoff implications here for Alabama,
Speaker 3: because look, it's not hard to imagine Georgia losing in
Speaker 3: the SEC title and Utah losing in the Pac twelve game, sure,
Speaker 3: and Oklahoma losing another one, either to Oklahoma State or
Speaker 3: bail or. I know it's three things that might need
Speaker 3: to happen, but gosh, it seems like they've already got
Speaker 3: the inside track potentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So that's why this one is very meaningful for Auburn.
Speaker 3: We know it's a rivalry game. We know there have
Speaker 3: been antics in this game in the past. This is
Speaker 3: somewhat difficult to handicap with Mac Jones now the Alabama
Speaker 3: starting quarterback two what goes down for the season, But
Speaker 3: at the same time, it feels easy to me. It
Speaker 3: feels like an easy pick for me.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, make it.
Speaker 3: I think it's easy. I think Auburn loads up the box.
Speaker 3: I think they forced Mac Jones to beat him through
Speaker 3: the air, and I don't think he's going to carve
Speaker 3: him up. But Bama goes four or five deep at
Speaker 3: wide out. These guys are amazing after the catch, They're
Speaker 3: gonna find a way to get open. Sooner or later,
Speaker 3: they're gonna connect for big play. Dan. I am actually
Speaker 3: more worried about Bonnicks BONICKX. Yeah, true freshman bo Nicks
Speaker 3: against a really good Alabama defense. He doesn't have the
Speaker 3: supporting cast as Mac Jones. I think the Tigers are
Speaker 3: going to struggle to move the ball most of this game.
Speaker 3: I think it's lower scoring than it would be if
Speaker 3: Tour were in there. But I am on board with
Speaker 3: Alabama here. I think they win it twenty four to seventeen.
Speaker 3: I think you get a discount with three and a
Speaker 3: half points because Tua is not in the game. And
Speaker 3: I know it's at Auburn, but let's lock this baby
Speaker 3: up long the week. How many times, Dan, are you
Speaker 3: going to get to pick Alabama minus three and a
Speaker 3: half against anybody?
Speaker 1: It's not I mean, it's not a bad call, but
Speaker 1: this is a backup quarterback who has not been tested
Speaker 1: and now going up against if it's not the best
Speaker 1: defensive front of the SEC. You know it's in that
Speaker 1: top group and top group in the country. So that's
Speaker 1: it's going to be different for him from what he's seen.
Speaker 1: What he played against Arkansas, and he played against back
Speaker 1: half or he played last week obviously was that Western Carolina. Yep,
Speaker 1: all right, So in their last three games and last
Speaker 1: three big games, Auburn has scored thirteen points, yes, twenty points,
Speaker 1: fourteen points. Now, two of those are on the road
Speaker 1: at Florida, Alico. This game is at home. It's a
Speaker 1: huge game at home, so that there's going to be
Speaker 1: even more juice running through the veins of the Auburn
Speaker 1: offensive coaching staff and the Auburn offense. A lot of gravy, gravy,
Speaker 1: A lot of gravy. Yeah, a lot of production gravy.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm that's a little weird.
Speaker 3: Yeap.
Speaker 1: While I'm talking about this, look up production gravy dot
Speaker 1: com and see if anything inappropriate comes up.
Speaker 3: I'll do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I worry because you need thirty points to beat Alabama.
Speaker 2: You just do.
Speaker 1: And I don't know where that comes from. Even though
Speaker 1: Alabama's defense, arguably in spots has been worse than George
Speaker 1: Lsu and Florida. But even with Mac Jones, I think
Speaker 1: he's capable of leading this team to twenty four, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: thirty one points. And I don't know where it comes from. Ty,
Speaker 1: they haven't run the ball well, they have not thrown
Speaker 1: the ball well, and there's not much else you can
Speaker 1: do on offense. Yeah, so I think I think I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I'm not crazy about mac Jones and a
Speaker 1: huge spot like this, but I'm crazy enough to say
Speaker 1: that they're a touchdown better over the course of four quarters.
Speaker 1: So twenty eight, twenty, twenty seven, nineteen, something like that.
Speaker 1: We got to get a good nineteen or for you
Speaker 1: in a big spot. So yeah, I'm going to give
Speaker 1: those points. I'm just going to go ahead and do it.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a different question than I promise
Speaker 3: we'll move on. But this is a big game, and
Speaker 3: I have a very real question. I'm not at all
Speaker 3: doing this tongue in cheek. I'm ready if Alabama came
Speaker 3: out and said, we don't have any quarterback for this
Speaker 3: game at all.
Speaker 1: Oh, and it's just a nause wild nause.
Speaker 3: We don't know who we're playing at quarterback, but we
Speaker 3: don't have a backup, we don't have a third string.
Speaker 3: What would the point spread be? Would they still be
Speaker 3: favored even if they had no quarterback?
Speaker 1: So it would be like when Baylor lost everybody to
Speaker 1: injury and went to like that weird hybrid wing back offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always come back to like the old deadist
Speaker 3: north cut maneuver when he was in the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 3: they had no quarterback, but if they had to go
Speaker 3: full on North cut here, full on Lynn Bowden Junior
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, Lynn Bowden, is we have
Speaker 1: a prime example?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What would the points rippy Auburn three and a half?
Speaker 1: Really you think that much?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it would swing it if there was nobody
Speaker 1: that we could fully count on to throw the ball
Speaker 1: on third and seven. Yeah, and I think I think
Speaker 1: it would swing maybe maybe seven eight points.
Speaker 3: Damn, just curious. I got twenty four to seventeen. I
Speaker 3: think we agree. I like it a lot more than
Speaker 3: you do. Moving on, Yeah, let's talk about Paul Bunyan's acts.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to Saturday three thirty ABC. It's Wisconsin at Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Wisconsin a three point road favorite. A lot of road
Speaker 3: favorites here, which is a little bit menacing if I'm
Speaker 3: being honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: At the core of this matchup is the fundamental question
Speaker 3: I think we've been grappling with all year, and that
Speaker 3: is how much do you believe in Minnesota? How much
Speaker 3: do you believe in the Golden Gophers? For me, I
Speaker 3: didn't think much of them for a good chunk of
Speaker 3: the season, and I was trying to think back why.
Speaker 3: It's mostly because I was looking at box scores and
Speaker 3: highlights and not actually watching enough Minnesota play. But then
Speaker 3: you watch them play and it doesn't feel like a
Speaker 3: fluke at all. Tanner Morgan, his receivers, they're really good.
Speaker 3: We've already talked nausea about how this is an efficient
Speaker 3: football team, and I think that's the baggage that I
Speaker 3: had before I watched Minnesota. But now that I've seen
Speaker 3: them play a couple games, start to finish, I have
Speaker 3: a much different impression about what they.
Speaker 1: Can do against a really good team. Michael, Wisconsin, Okay,
Speaker 1: what can they do? I you're hesitating after all of that,
Speaker 1: after that pre am, well, I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 1: where I want to start. Okay.
Speaker 3: It's it's a unique matchup because the defense is so
Speaker 3: good for Wisconsin, and I think though, that combination of
Speaker 3: Tanner Morgan with Tyler Johnson and Rashad Bateman is very
Speaker 3: difficult for anyone to defend, so at a minimum, they
Speaker 3: can find ways to get those guys involved. They're not
Speaker 3: the most efficient running team, but certainly through the air
Speaker 3: they can make some Hay. That's what they've been doing
Speaker 3: against the better teams on their schedule so far, so
Speaker 3: that at a minimum is something that they can do.
Speaker 3: They also have proven to be very, very reliable when
Speaker 3: it comes to handling the football. I don't shoot themselves
Speaker 3: in a foot a whole lot, right, So I think
Speaker 3: those two things in and of themselves are enough of
Speaker 3: a recipe to keep this one close.
Speaker 1: So it's a revenge spot for Wisconsin after you know,
Speaker 1: the super beat up last year. But Minnesota did a
Speaker 1: terrific job finishing out the season strong after making a
Speaker 1: change the defensive coordinator. Wisconsin's defense has actually been very
Speaker 1: good against the Pas. It's a nice matchup for them
Speaker 1: as they go. It's another wintry mix game, by the way,
Speaker 1: in the thirties there in Minneapolis. Yeah, so I don't
Speaker 1: know how that affects things for you, because Minnesota is
Speaker 1: certainly better through the air than they are on the ground.
Speaker 1: Is as talented as those running backs are for the Gophers.
Speaker 1: But yes, they really do make their hay as you said,
Speaker 1: through the air. And I don't know if it's a
Speaker 1: tougher ball to grip. I don't know if it's just
Speaker 1: an easier experience or an easy experience for them and Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: We know what Wisconsin's going to try to do. They're not,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to fake you out too much. But
Speaker 1: I like the way that the receivers have evolved over
Speaker 1: the course of the season. So actually in this place,
Speaker 1: in this you know, Minnesota as a dog, what did
Speaker 1: you said, three points by a field goal? I got
Speaker 1: three my heart with you know, a pretty good defense,
Speaker 1: not a great defense, but a pretty good Minnesota defense
Speaker 1: and a huge, huge emotional spot to put a cap
Speaker 1: on a terrific season for the Gophers and make their
Speaker 1: way because the winner goes to the Big Ten championship game.
Speaker 1: My heart says Gophers, my head says Wisconsin, just because
Speaker 1: they're a different team. But Ty, I'm a romantic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going with my heart. I'm going with that defense
Speaker 1: to get enough stops, excuse me, get some some weird
Speaker 1: Jack Cone possessions. So I have this a one point
Speaker 1: game coming down to the end, Minnesota kicks a field
Speaker 1: goal to win it in that wintry mix twenty eight
Speaker 1: twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Wow, that would be dramatic. Dan. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 3: you're right. I think you're right because.
Speaker 1: And you can run on Wisconsin a little. We saw
Speaker 1: kam Raska did a couple of weeks ago, surprisingly, so
Speaker 1: you can push them around that the defense around up front.
Speaker 3: You can't and I don't mean to imply that Minnesota
Speaker 3: can't run right, just not getting a lot of bang
Speaker 3: for the bucks, so to speak. When they I think
Speaker 3: that's hand the ball off. Efficiency wise, they're not the
Speaker 3: most efficient, but they do have backs the fine. You know,
Speaker 3: we've talked about hot rod Rodney Smith before. I love
Speaker 3: the guy, So we'll see what they can do on
Speaker 3: that front. What I was going to say is I
Speaker 3: think you're right in that people are going to talk
Speaker 3: about Jonathan Taylor tailback. You're going to look at this
Speaker 3: matchup and they're going to say, well, that's that's the
Speaker 3: formula a special if the weather's bad. Ultimately, this comes
Speaker 3: down to how well Wisconson counts stopped the pass?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and well, Minnesota does a pretty good job on
Speaker 1: the ground, I mean defending the run.
Speaker 3: They do a good job defending the run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, granticle they wrap up.
Speaker 3: But if wisconsequent stopped the pass, I think that's the
Speaker 3: formula for them. Because Minnesota is good on the ground,
Speaker 3: but not good enough to mount a full on charge
Speaker 3: on the ground they need it as a complimentary.
Speaker 1: Piece, and that you need those bigger plays. Nebraska was
Speaker 1: able to generate those bigger plays, yes, and keep themselves
Speaker 1: in the game. That's not who Minnesota has been this year.
Speaker 3: I think this is tight the whole way. I am
Speaker 3: taking those three points at home and get this one, Dan,
Speaker 3: I like Minnesota outright to the tune of twenty eight
Speaker 3: twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Is that what you have written?
Speaker 3: We did not coordinate these picks, ty.
Speaker 1: We spend far too many hours not to get into
Speaker 1: this fun place.
Speaker 3: By the end of the season, Saturday night, eight pm
Speaker 3: on Fox, it's the Bedlam Game.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: It's Oklahoma on the road at Oklahoma State. The point
Speaker 3: spread has swelled to thirteen and a half points. If
Speaker 3: you've listened to this show at all this year, you
Speaker 3: know why I'm taking Oklahoma State here because Cowboys are
Speaker 3: a top forty team. Oklahoma has had a little bit
Speaker 3: of separation anxiety when it comes to top forty teams.
Speaker 3: They can't cover that point spread. Sometimes they let teams
Speaker 3: back in the game, or they just I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe don't have that killer instinct. I can't quite describe it,
Speaker 3: but it does seem to be something of a trend.
Speaker 3: And on top of that, Daniel, this is sort of
Speaker 3: a lousy matchup for that Oklahoma defense, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many matchups are great, right but
Speaker 1: with this defense, this one, especially because you know it's
Speaker 1: in Stillwater, Okay, But I think early stage UCLA is
Speaker 1: that's where you want, That's where the Oklahoma defense drives, thrives.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, Cuba Hubbard is going to stress the hell
Speaker 3: out of this Sooner rushy in the same way that
Speaker 3: he stresses every rush defense, but especially a team like Oklahoma,
Speaker 3: which has had some trouble this year.
Speaker 1: Okay, So there is there's a mitigating factor that where
Speaker 1: Oklahoma can load the box a little and forced Drew Brown.
Speaker 1: You know, Oklahoma State down now, they're starting quarterback and
Speaker 1: their best receiver as has been the case for a
Speaker 1: few weeks and with Tylan Wallace, but still a good
Speaker 1: enough Oklahoma State team to hang with an Oklahoma team
Speaker 1: that hasn't been complete or consistent enough to separate from
Speaker 1: decent teams on the road. You've talked about this, just
Speaker 1: Oklahoma against decent teams has been, the separation factor is
Speaker 1: not there. So even and I'm not a we talked
Speaker 1: about this earli in the year. I'm not a huge
Speaker 1: gambling guy, even though I think looking at games through
Speaker 1: the view the lens of the spread is a smart
Speaker 1: thing to do. Since UCLA, Oklahoma is zero for four
Speaker 1: against the spread on the road and has lost their
Speaker 1: last four games against the spread and losing six of
Speaker 1: seven against the spread, so Vegas does not have a
Speaker 1: grasp on the Sooners. The backup quarterback thing is daunting
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma State, but with Chewba Hubbard, with some time
Speaker 1: with you know, a smart enough defense, I have this
Speaker 1: as Oklahoma thirty four and the Cowboys thirty one. So
Speaker 1: I think the plugs hang around, and I think it's
Speaker 1: more just Jalen Hurts the cause of and solution to
Speaker 1: all of the Sooners problems.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it might be a little higher scoring
Speaker 3: than that, but okay, I agree on the general framework here. Also,
Speaker 3: you might be wondering, well, since I like Minnesota in
Speaker 3: the previous game and they're a home dog, are they
Speaker 3: your home dog of the week. No. The reason is
Speaker 3: because Oklahoma State is also a home dog and they're
Speaker 3: getting thirteen half points the yokos home Dog of the Week.
Speaker 1: Ty, I just like to point out that one Minnesota
Speaker 1: is my home dog of the week. Okay, playing you
Speaker 1: need to play it again? I mean Rome row me
Speaker 1: dog of the Week. I don't know. That's too much
Speaker 1: of a stretch even for me. You don't need to
Speaker 1: play it again. But I would like to point out
Speaker 1: that upon my clarification of that sound, including that ketchup
Speaker 1: squirting at the end, yes, yes, the conversation is still
Speaker 1: going about what people thought that sound was. There was courses,
Speaker 1: there were the motorcycles shorting out. That was just what
Speaker 1: people think is at the end, Yako's Home Dog of
Speaker 1: the Week is a reference to Yako's hot dogs in
Speaker 1: your neck.
Speaker 2: Of the world.
Speaker 3: Nobody spells it right, by the way, when they yo
Speaker 3: cco yo cco is how you spell yacko.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what that sound is for once and
Speaker 1: for all. But the variable speeds, I can understand if
Speaker 1: you're listening to this at double the speed I can understand,
Speaker 1: which is like, that's just a random sound and that
Speaker 1: would make sense for our show, But no, it is.
Speaker 1: It is a ketchup bottle.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also I discovered that we are. For some reason,
Speaker 3: on the Yako's Wikipedia page, someone made reference podcast on there.
Speaker 1: Would they say, like, A, you know, an incredible legendary
Speaker 1: player like Brian Bosworth should never pay for a drink
Speaker 1: again in Norman. I don't know, maybe, but we should
Speaker 1: never ever be paying for yakos anytime we stumble into one.
Speaker 3: Come on, I agree. So not only do I agree
Speaker 3: on that, we also agree on bedlam. We're going to
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State prison points here, correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just obviously Oklahoma has owned the Pokes
Speaker 1: over the years. There's not enough firepower for me to
Speaker 1: feel confident about the Pokes winning outright, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's close, and it's gonna be clear skies by
Speaker 1: the way, and still water.
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Speaker 3: Moving on, we've got a bunch of games to rifle through.
Speaker 3: I hope you're ready for this, Dan, I'm ready. But
Speaker 3: before we go there, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: You just want to tell me I'm handsome? What are
Speaker 1: we doing?
Speaker 3: I am looking at the spreadsheet. Now I've had a
Speaker 3: chance to kind of decipher it. Yeah, as you've been
Speaker 3: reading through your picks. This spreadsheet is so comprehensive. So
Speaker 3: what is what is the intention of the spreadsheet? What
Speaker 3: you know? Is it a this is this is Peters
Speaker 3: Peters Thanksgiving spreadsheet. So there are tabs at the bottom
Speaker 3: that says menu grocery by dish Master. To do this
Speaker 3: is like a This is like the first fifty plays
Speaker 3: of a game scripted out. There's a guest list, there's
Speaker 3: a cooking heating plan, i e. When you start up,
Speaker 3: which I'm gonna I might have to steal this.
Speaker 1: That's temperature and real estate and time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, notes from twenty eighteen. And then we've got recipes
Speaker 3: here for an onion soup and a pumpkin fennel soup.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm all listen to me. I need soup.
Speaker 1: But on the menu soup mood.
Speaker 3: Yeah you need soup for that voice on the menu,
Speaker 3: hear column F is serving temperature, and so some are
Speaker 3: room temperature, some are warm, some are hot. I've got
Speaker 3: one here, the gravy hotter than hot, with a side
Speaker 3: note need lots of gravy. Dan Oh yeah, hotter than hot.
Speaker 3: Need lots of gravy. That is Thanksgiving Week, that is
Speaker 3: sacked the records Saturday, and that is all these rivalry
Speaker 3: games we're about to get through.
Speaker 1: They're hotter than hot.
Speaker 4: Dan.
Speaker 1: By the way, just one small step we're taking this
Speaker 1: year with the potatoes. Love a good creamy mash.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: This year it's our friends over at I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're friends, but they could be our friends. Bona
Speaker 1: Petite has a mashed potato recipe where you crumble up
Speaker 1: potato chips and mix it with like garlic and some herbs.
Speaker 1: Get crispity crunchites on top. So it's the smooth and
Speaker 1: crunch and I think it's gonna lift that plate up
Speaker 1: to a whole new stratosphere.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm down down with that.
Speaker 1: You're just visualizing right now.
Speaker 3: Egg Bowl seven Thursday. Let's gotta go through these quick, Dan.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm ready.
Speaker 3: Seven thirty Thursday. ESPN Old Miss at Misssissippi State. Mississippi
Speaker 3: State a field goal favorite at home. Who you got?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 1: Mississippi State has lost five of six SEC games. Their
Speaker 1: defense is pretty bad. Ole Miss is a pretty decent
Speaker 1: matchup for them because it seems like it'll all be
Speaker 1: decided on the ground. Don't love either one of these
Speaker 1: teams through the air, So I'm gonna go with the
Speaker 1: home team in a rivalry spot Klanga klanga season disappointing
Speaker 1: finish is strong twenty eight to twenty four. Let's go
Speaker 1: state here.
Speaker 3: I'm going twenty eight twenty four in the other direction.
Speaker 1: Okay, big plumbley game, give me a.
Speaker 3: Little JRP action, baby, I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. I don't know if you know what that means.
Speaker 3: Commonwealth Cup Friday, high noon, ABC. It is between Virginia
Speaker 3: Tech and Virginia. Virginia Tech a three point road favorite.
Speaker 3: They got a ton of momentum. They've won six of
Speaker 3: seven now, They've had a lot of success in this rivalry,
Speaker 3: and it feels like they are building towards something, whereas
Speaker 3: Virginia has sort of stumbled out of the gates here.
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech outright minus the points.
Speaker 1: I like them, So I think we might be leaning
Speaker 1: into momentum a little bit too much because Virginia Tech
Speaker 1: is certainly of these two teams. I think the who's
Speaker 1: played Liberty last week, yes, or their last game short
Speaker 1: road week favorite terrifies me some and I really do
Speaker 1: like the Hokies. That do like how they're playing right now.
Speaker 1: But I think Virginia is sort of getting lost in
Speaker 1: the shuffle. This is a good team and the game
Speaker 1: is at home in a short week. I know it's
Speaker 1: been two thousand, two thousand and three since the Hokies
Speaker 1: have lost this game. I think this is the year.
Speaker 1: I think this is the year. Give me the Who's
Speaker 1: twenty two to seventeen?
Speaker 3: I disagree. I do think it's well scoring though, something
Speaker 3: like twenty clear weather by the team, clear weather in Charlottesville.
Speaker 3: All Right, the Heroes Trophy. Friday at two thirty Big
Speaker 3: ten Network. It is Iowa on the road at Nebraska Dan.
Speaker 3: This might be one of those games where Vegas knows
Speaker 3: something we don't because Nebraska has not been very good
Speaker 3: this year. They're not even a bowl team yet. Iowa
Speaker 3: was only a five point road favorite in this football game,
Speaker 3: so it feels lowed.
Speaker 1: Six Yeah, feels.
Speaker 3: Low to me. Typically i'd be all in on Iowa.
Speaker 3: You know the drill. When the game feels different than
Speaker 3: the point spread, you'll lean into the spread. So I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go in to Braska. You think it be like
Speaker 3: an eight to nine point spreads. Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Nebraska plus the points because I don't
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: So, Okay, when you look at Iowa's year, these are
Speaker 1: the games in which these are the Big ten games,
Speaker 1: the Power five games which they've scored twenty five points.
Speaker 1: Because the bigger the spread, you have to understand like
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to score to cover it. Sure, So
Speaker 1: Iowa's coming off a nineteen point performance against Illinois twenty three,
Speaker 1: Minnesota twenty two. In the lost Wisconsin twenty, Northwestern twenty six,
Speaker 1: per Due. So there's the twenty five plus pointer Penn
Speaker 1: State twelve, Michigan three, Iowa State eighteen. So it actually
Speaker 1: is good if we feel like Nebraska is at least
Speaker 1: improving a little bit on offense. They ran the ball
Speaker 1: well against Minnesota. We saw them move the ball plenty
Speaker 1: against Maryland, and I know it's Maryland whatever I meant
Speaker 1: to say, Wisconsin, not Minnesota for Nebraska, I just don't
Speaker 1: think there are points. I think Nebraska will do a
Speaker 1: good enough job limiting and I will do enough job
Speaker 1: enough of a job limiting themselves. I have it twenty
Speaker 1: to thirteen I think they cover the spread, but going
Speaker 1: eight to nine double digit points, I was won this
Speaker 1: game four years in a row, five of six for
Speaker 1: the Hero's Trophy, But I just points on the road
Speaker 1: rain forties. It's not going to be ideal temperatures for
Speaker 1: Nate Stanley to throw a touchdown pass, which is a
Speaker 1: good week for the Iowa offense. So yeah, I have
Speaker 1: to buy a touchdown so they cover by a thread.
Speaker 1: But if this were up where you were talking, I
Speaker 1: think I'd be happy to take the Huskers at home.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to Nebraska plus the points. I don't get it.
Speaker 3: I don't trust it. I don't trust my own instincts here. Okay,
Speaker 3: So when it comes down to Friday, three point thirty ESPN,
Speaker 3: we've got Cincinnati at Memphis, Dan, this is a big matchup,
Speaker 3: Memphis an eleven point favorite at home. I really like Memphis,
Speaker 3: maybe a little too much. I've like Memphis all year,
Speaker 3: sometimes to my detriment. But let's take one more ride
Speaker 3: here at the Memphis Tigers. I like them outright, and
Speaker 3: to cover eleven at.
Speaker 1: Home, I'm with you agree. Cincinnati has a low key
Speaker 1: nightmare of an offense in a good way. And so
Speaker 1: it has sort of devolved over the course season. Just
Speaker 1: a passing game seems to be a mess too often.
Speaker 1: And even if Memphis wins, we will get a rematch.
Speaker 1: If Cincinnati beats Memphis and Navy beats Houston, then we'll
Speaker 1: have Cincinnati Navy. So they're actually pretty significant stakes in
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are.
Speaker 1: So we will get this game two weeks in a
Speaker 1: row if both of our predictions come true, in that
Speaker 1: Memphis is two touchdowns plus better in Cincinnati if the
Speaker 1: Bearcats can't score. So yeah, I have it. Thirty five
Speaker 1: to twenty Memphis.
Speaker 3: Apple Cup Friday, four pm Eastern. It's Washington State on
Speaker 3: the road at Washington. The Huskies are a seven point
Speaker 3: home favorite. Here, Dan, you know where I stand on Washington.
Speaker 3: I've not been a fan of their work at all
Speaker 3: this season. Right this one strikes me as a shootout there,
Speaker 3: and it could be because every Washington State game to
Speaker 3: a shootout these days. But I think I'm going Wazu
Speaker 3: plus the points. I don't know who wins if I'm
Speaker 3: being honest, but.
Speaker 1: Give me a team just between you and me, between you.
Speaker 3: And me, I'll go.
Speaker 1: I'll go Washington.
Speaker 3: But I think it's like a forty one to thirty
Speaker 3: eight kind of game.
Speaker 1: WHOA, Yeah, that is a shootout. Short week rivalry spot
Speaker 1: isn't great for washing for Wazoo on the road after
Speaker 1: their emotionally draining win over Oregon State that was forty
Speaker 1: eight points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, Ordinarily I love
Speaker 1: to pick against the Koogs here, but this is the
Speaker 1: Apple Cop They're trying to finally beat. Chris Peterson. I
Speaker 1: think I'm with you. I don't think it's as high
Speaker 1: scoring as you see it because I think the Washington
Speaker 1: secondary is good enough, even though the pass rush has
Speaker 1: been pretty disappointing most of the season for the Huskies.
Speaker 1: So I have it thirty three to thirty Huskies. The
Speaker 1: street continues. Maybe next year it'll be stopped the streak Saturday.
Speaker 1: If stop the streets Saturday, Iowa and Virginia Tech and
Speaker 1: Washington all win this year. Teams like that that just
Speaker 1: have won the arrivalry year over year over year. But no,
Speaker 1: I think the Huskies final way to pull it out
Speaker 1: clear and in the forties in Seattle.
Speaker 3: What I'm noticing here is a trend of us talking
Speaker 3: a lot about teams just hanging.
Speaker 1: Around, right, Yes, you have noticed that.
Speaker 3: I have noticed that, and I feel right you noticed
Speaker 3: that before the show is I did a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we have to sound, but that is so perfect?
Speaker 1: So okay, So part of it is teams hanging around,
Speaker 1: and part of it is how long do we think
Speaker 1: teams can hang around? Because we're picking some of these
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, well, you know, Washington's goin by three,
Speaker 1: or you know Minnesota's goin by one. Those aren't really
Speaker 1: hang around games because I think we see them as
Speaker 1: sort of back and forth. But in some of the
Speaker 1: following games, I want to pick your brain to see
Speaker 1: how long you can think some clear big dogs, big
Speaker 1: underdogs can hang around. What sort of hangtime is we
Speaker 1: talking about? A quarter, a half into the second court,
Speaker 1: into the second half, excuse me, into the fourth quarter?
Speaker 1: What is a realistic hangtime scenario for the following major dogs? Okay,
Speaker 1: play the sound again, just because it's one love that sound.
Speaker 1: But did you watch the show?
Speaker 3: I'm familiar with the show. I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Ti Anthony Anderson vehicle. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he it's a basketball show, high school show
Speaker 1: called Hanktime. I don't know if he were if he
Speaker 1: was on the team. I know he was adjacent to
Speaker 1: the team. Really good. I'm more familiar with was the coach.
Speaker 1: I'm more familiar with hanging with mister Cooper also good,
Speaker 1: also basketball related. Sure, all right, let's go.
Speaker 3: Talk about some big point spreads here the War on
Speaker 3: I four. It is Friday night, eight pm ESPN, USF
Speaker 3: at you cf U CF is a twenty four point
Speaker 3: home favorite. Dan what you got?
Speaker 1: Uh? So the Bulls improved on defense, not so improved
Speaker 1: on offense. No, Jordan Cronkite for USF. Dylan Gabriel a
Speaker 1: lot better at home. We've seen some struggles on the
Speaker 1: road Tulsa and pit So it's it's nice that the
Speaker 1: game is in Orlando. The night's won by four touchdowns
Speaker 1: last year. I think South Florida actually covers in this
Speaker 1: game thirty four to eighteen nights.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, we're another big point spread.
Speaker 1: They can hang around for a half. By the way,
Speaker 1: that's my hangtime.
Speaker 3: I yeah, a quarter and a half, I say, oh okay,
Speaker 3: Paul Meadow Bowl. As we moved to Saturday at High
Speaker 3: New ESPN Clemson at South Carolina. Clemson's about a four
Speaker 3: touchdown favorite twenty seven and a half twenty eight points
Speaker 3: depending where you look. It is the long overdue moment
Speaker 3: of respite that will come to South Carolina the day
Speaker 3: after this game, because their schedule has been absolutely brutal. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we're an agreement that Clemson's gonna kill South Carolina.
Speaker 3: It's just a question of how long is Carolina going
Speaker 3: to hang around?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Carolina has lost four or five. I don't know
Speaker 1: what a successful game for them is. I guess if
Speaker 1: this is a game in the second half, that's terrific hangtime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they scored what six points they had a bye week
Speaker 1: last week? Six points at A and M. They host
Speaker 1: Clemson ams forty five seventeen Tigers. I think they hang
Speaker 1: around for it's a cover by the way for me,
Speaker 1: for the for the non math majors.
Speaker 3: I think they hang around for a half? Wow, a
Speaker 3: half hang around for how does how does South Carolina
Speaker 3: hang around? I don't know.
Speaker 1: With the team maybe playing at the highest.
Speaker 3: Hang around for a half and hang around could be
Speaker 3: like twenty four to fourteen hang around. You're a nice guy,
Speaker 3: but I think I agree with you. Clemson wins and
Speaker 3: covers too good for this team. Okay, clean old fashioned hate.
Speaker 3: Saturday High Noon, ABC Georgia at Georgia Tech. Another twenty
Speaker 3: eight point line here, Dan, this is one where I
Speaker 3: love Georgia and I love Georgia because I'm not sure
Speaker 3: Georgia Tech scores more than seven points or gains more
Speaker 3: than one hundred yards in this game against this defense.
Speaker 1: Right, I have Georgia covering this spread. Would you say
Speaker 1: it was four touchdowns twenty eight points twenty eight yea?
Speaker 1: I have it as forty one to ten because what
Speaker 1: Georgia is or isn't abled to do on offense, I
Speaker 1: don't think is gonna ultimately matter all that much. You know,
Speaker 1: halfway through the second quarter, did you ever watch Top
Speaker 1: Chef tie? Do you watch Top Cheft?
Speaker 3: Yes? Of course.
Speaker 1: So you can make something that straightforward, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: get criticized because you haven't really taken chances. You haven't
Speaker 1: really been creative. You haven't really you know, as they say,
Speaker 1: told a story with your dish doesn't matter. Verse Tech
Speaker 1: Tech's happy Hamberger. It's your you know, DeAndre Swift should
Speaker 1: run wild against this Tech defense. You know, a nice story.
Speaker 1: As they've become a little bit feisty Plucky. I don't
Speaker 1: know what your word du jour is right now, but
Speaker 1: it's not happening against the Georgia defense.
Speaker 3: No, we agree, all right? How about the Gutness Cup? Dan, Saturday?
Speaker 1: This one news should be really fun.
Speaker 3: I know SEC Network, it's Louisville, it's Kentucky. The Cats
Speaker 3: are a three point home favorite. Who you got here? Dan?
Speaker 3: This is a very intriguing matchup. Not a lot a
Speaker 3: big point spread here, but a lot to watch for,
Speaker 3: a lot to be entertained by.
Speaker 1: Louisville's defense leaves a lot to be desired, as does
Speaker 1: their ability on the road. That run defense for Louisville
Speaker 1: can be rough, and that's where Kentucky makes their cash.
Speaker 1: So I have the Cats by seven here against a
Speaker 1: really good story in Louisville. But this is it's a
Speaker 1: tough spot.
Speaker 3: I think you know this isn't a big point spread.
Speaker 3: I think this is back and forth the whole way. Okay,
Speaker 3: So you're taking you taking your take, now taking Kentucky.
Speaker 3: I love McHale. I'm gonna go lin Bowden Jr. My
Speaker 3: first look, if you will. The Land of Lincoln Trophy
Speaker 3: on the line. Saturday high Noon, f S one Northwestern
Speaker 3: at Illinois. And get this, Illinois was once a ten
Speaker 3: point line. People saw that and said, no, let's not
Speaker 3: let's not get carried away here. Even though they're revn
Speaker 3: to seven. Let's bring that line down about eight and
Speaker 3: a half, which is where we're at right now. Are
Speaker 3: you comfortable with Illinois as an eight and a half
Speaker 3: point favorite.
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with them as ten. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: win this game by two touchdowns. I don't know where
Speaker 1: points come from from Northwestern. Even though they're going with
Speaker 1: sort of a battering ram of an offense with their
Speaker 1: fourth string quarterback, it's still a good matchup for the
Speaker 1: Ali and I no Power Five wins for Northwestern going
Speaker 1: into the final week of their season, so the run
Speaker 1: defense is good enough for Illinois. I have at twenty
Speaker 1: eight to fourteen a lion I they rev to.
Speaker 3: Seve We agree again? Wow, exact score? Close to it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, nice, it was like a point off.
Speaker 3: But whatever, old oaken bucket Saturday High newon ESPN too.
Speaker 3: Indiana at Purdue. They're a seven point road favorite. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go Purdue here, I'm gonna go Purdue.
Speaker 1: Explaining this to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's a tough stretch for Indiana. As you know,
Speaker 3: they played Penn State and Michigan back to back weeks,
Speaker 3: Purdue not making a bowl, so this rivalry is sort
Speaker 3: of there to facto national championship. And I like Indiana
Speaker 3: so okay, but with the points I'm taking perdue to cover,
Speaker 3: I think Indiana probably gets the win. But I like
Speaker 3: Purdue getting seven at home.
Speaker 1: Okay, have fun with that if you are actually wagering
Speaker 1: on Purdue. And I think the Boilers have some secret
Speaker 1: optimist with how much they're able to play freshmen and
Speaker 1: how much those guys contributed with all the injuries. But
Speaker 1: for this week, Indiana, even with you know they're beat
Speaker 1: up at receiver, they're beat up at running back, you know,
Speaker 1: they're not super healthy along the line, I think they're
Speaker 1: just too good. And so I'm going to I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say Hoosiers by seventeen. Wow, buckets and buckets. And coming
Speaker 1: back to Bloomington.
Speaker 3: Saturday, four pm on Fox, it's Notre Dame at Stanford.
Speaker 3: Notre Dame has ballooned up to a sixteen and a
Speaker 3: half point favorite. We haven't covered a lot of Stanford
Speaker 3: this year because it's been a rough season. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it wasn't truly until this game that I popped the
Speaker 3: hood on some of their efficiency numbers. Dan, And let
Speaker 3: me tell you, boy, howdy is that a disaster? That
Speaker 3: is a total disaster on all fronts. So from an
Speaker 3: efficiency standpoint for the Stanford Cardinal, I got Notre Dame
Speaker 3: big here, like forty two twenty. I know typically that
Speaker 3: game in Palo Alto has not been kind to the Irish,
Speaker 3: but there's just not a lot to latch onto if
Speaker 3: you're looking at this from a Stanford perspective right.
Speaker 1: Now, this is an oxygen tank game for whoever's getting
Speaker 1: the carries for Notre Dame, because they are going to
Speaker 1: be tired, not from the number of carries, but from
Speaker 1: the number of times they are running down the field uncumbered.
Speaker 1: Who is it, Tony Jones.
Speaker 3: Tony Jones who is back now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tony Jones is probably going to need some oxygen
Speaker 1: on the sidelines because they should do enough for it.
Speaker 1: And I love betting against teams a week after what
Speaker 1: is you know, has been a year ending rivalry game,
Speaker 1: and I think Stanford is just can we just not?
Speaker 1: I think that's the mode they're in losing last second
Speaker 1: to cal So, Yeah, I think you're right. Notre Dame
Speaker 1: big here by three to four touchdowns.
Speaker 3: The Civil War. Also Saturday, four pm, PAC twelve Network,
Speaker 3: It's Oregon stayed a nineteen point Yeah, road dog at
Speaker 3: your Oregon Ducks defending Red Box Bowl champions. So we
Speaker 3: talked about the ASU game a week ago when we
Speaker 3: previewed it. We said, was it worrisome? Was a situation
Speaker 3: worries some for Oregon? And you said, yes, I don't
Speaker 3: know if either of us expected a loss, but you
Speaker 3: know I gave those points, but yeah, a loss was
Speaker 3: was I don't know, just didn't seem unexpected. Yeah, are
Speaker 3: we going to see the Oregon defense this week that
Speaker 3: we saw a couple of weeks ago against USC, or
Speaker 3: are we going to see the defense we saw against
Speaker 3: a team like I don't know, a Wazoo. We know
Speaker 3: Oregon State can throw. Yeah, so nineteen points is a
Speaker 3: that's a hefty line to cover. We know Oregon State's
Speaker 3: going to be loaded for bear who you got?
Speaker 1: Yeah. The offense for Oregon State has been really impressive.
Speaker 1: The line has come together well, the skill position is
Speaker 1: pretty complete. Jake Luton has had a nice year for
Speaker 1: the Beaves, and I think offensively they should be able
Speaker 1: to score some points. We saw the leakiness of the
Speaker 1: Oregon secondary and I don't know if that's a motivation thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's I mean, I do know
Speaker 1: it's a Jada Daniels thing. I do know it's a
Speaker 1: Frank Darby and Brandon Ayuk thing. And I do know
Speaker 1: Oregon State has receivers who can make plays against anybody
Speaker 1: in the conference, but in Eugene, and still looking at
Speaker 1: what Oregon State does or doesn't have on this defense,
Speaker 1: I think Oregon gets right. I think they run all
Speaker 1: over Oregon State. And I think it's probably a backdoor
Speaker 1: cover from the Beeves. I have it at forty one
Speaker 1: twenty four, So maybe a bare back door cover that
Speaker 1: Oregon tightens up in the red zone and separates themselves
Speaker 1: slowly but surely a bit of a crock potting so
Speaker 1: Oregon gets right ahead of the pack doorf Championship game, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, Utah limb from Limb, Okay limb from Limb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a.
Speaker 3: Little bit of a backdoor cover. Yes, I think I'm
Speaker 3: with you, Dan, I'm all over Oregon State.
Speaker 1: Plus grow those records out. This Oregon State team. I mean,
Speaker 1: they beat Arizona State two weeks ago. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go to Pharmageddon. My favorite game name Yeah, Saturday, seven
Speaker 1: PMFS one. It's Iowa State on the road at K State.
Speaker 1: The Clones are a four and a half point road favorite. Dan, I,
Speaker 1: I'm going.
Speaker 3: To Iowa State here. I think K State was a
Speaker 3: little overvalued a few weeks ago after they beat Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: It's been a good first year for Chris Climbing.
Speaker 1: Definitely.
Speaker 3: I think Iowa State does the Oklahoma thing where they're
Speaker 3: better than the good chunk of the teams they play,
Speaker 3: but they have a hard time putting them away. They've
Speaker 3: been in a lot of close games this year, so
Speaker 3: I think they're better here. I think they've got more firepower.
Speaker 3: I think they win, and I think they cover. I
Speaker 3: like them by about seven. I would never want to
Speaker 3: bet actual currency on this game. It just feels like
Speaker 3: it could go a thousand different directions to me. But
Speaker 3: let's go Iowa State by a thirty four to twenty
Speaker 3: seven margin.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm on a reasonably same page. I think the
Speaker 1: Clones should be able to run all over K State.
Speaker 1: I'm just I worry about the offensive k State, you know,
Speaker 1: generating enough points because Brock Purty and this offense for
Speaker 1: for Iowa State should get theirs, and I feel like
Speaker 1: the Clones will also do a good enough job keeping
Speaker 1: k State in front of them. I think it's close,
Speaker 1: But what did you say?
Speaker 3: The spread was spread? Right now is four and a
Speaker 3: half in favor of Iowa State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I have Iowa State by a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Saturday seven pm on ESPN, it's Texas A and M
Speaker 3: on the road at LSU. The line is now sixteen
Speaker 3: and a half.
Speaker 1: Can we call it the punch Bowl? After last year
Speaker 1: the punch Bowl?
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 1: I'd like to thank you.
Speaker 3: The punch Bowl. Saturday, seven pm ESPN. A and M
Speaker 3: sixteen and a half point road dog at LSU. Is
Speaker 3: there any look ahead factor for LSU looking ahead to
Speaker 3: the SEC title game?
Speaker 1: Are you asking if there's poop in the punch Bowl?
Speaker 3: Is there poop in the punch Bowl?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. It's also a double road game
Speaker 1: for A and M after last week's slog against Georgia,
Speaker 1: which I think it was quite impressive from the A
Speaker 1: and M defense. I don't think so you need to
Speaker 1: score a lot of points. It is a reasonable question
Speaker 1: because I do like upfront with Texas A and looks
Speaker 1: like I think they should be able to get in
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's face. Some man, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take the points here. Yeah, it's just weird to me.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, thirty thirty to seventeen, thirty to twenty.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Texas AY, and I'm actually scoring points.
Speaker 1: But this LSU defense isn't an unstoppable force. It's not
Speaker 1: an immovable object. So at ten to thirteen points ultimately
Speaker 1: with as you know, maybe as little as seven, maybe
Speaker 1: it's another overtime game in the way that we've seen
Speaker 1: like Texas A and m Arkansas. No matter how good
Speaker 1: either of those teams are, it's probably going to close.
Speaker 1: It's probably going overtime. So I think that's where we
Speaker 1: are with this bitch.
Speaker 3: A and M's a good team with a brutal schedule,
Speaker 3: and the question at this juncture is how much gas
Speaker 3: do they have left in the tank. I think sixteen
Speaker 3: and a half is too much. I got LSU by fourteen.
Speaker 3: I think Clyde Edwards Hilaire is gonna have a monster game, right,
Speaker 3: But A and m's good enough to hang around. I'll
Speaker 3: play the sound, but the hell, but I think they're
Speaker 3: good enough to hang around for how long?
Speaker 4: For?
Speaker 3: How long to hang around? Well, again, I'm talking within
Speaker 3: the context of the points spread here. I don't think
Speaker 3: they're gonna win the game, but okay, could they get
Speaker 3: a back door cover? Absolutely? Absolutely so. I got LSU
Speaker 3: something like thirty eight twenty four, somewhere in that range.
Speaker 1: Uh, okay, you like that score?
Speaker 3: Forty five? The thirty one forty five?
Speaker 1: It feels like too many points. This is a good
Speaker 1: A and M defense, or at least a decent A
Speaker 1: and M defense. So yeah, I'm thinking, like, yeah, thirty
Speaker 1: to twenty. I've already gave my score something in that range.
Speaker 3: Saturday, seven PMACC Network, Sam Howell and a little bit
Speaker 3: of Backer Bayfield and him in UNC on the road
Speaker 3: at NC State. They are an eight point road favorite. Dan,
Speaker 3: I'm all in on North Carolina here. NC State is
Speaker 3: having a terrible season, and the fact that North Carolinas
Speaker 3: such a big road I think is telling of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, betting against NC State, I'll look up the numbers
Speaker 1: right now as I'm also speaking, I think I like
Speaker 1: North Carolina as well. It's just a total lost year, right.
Speaker 3: It feels that way. We knew going into it that
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of turnover and that, you know,
Speaker 3: it's always a concern.
Speaker 1: But NC State has lost five straight against the spread,
Speaker 1: four of which have gone over. If you're so inclined
Speaker 1: to really get granular with your wagering.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go, oh, five in a row.
Speaker 1: Huh five they've lost five against the spread in a row.
Speaker 1: I mean they've lost outright five in a row as well.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't four out of five have gone over.
Speaker 3: I know there's something of a of a superstition around
Speaker 3: going the other direction, but sure, I'm just gonna stick
Speaker 3: with my gut here and go North Carolina minus whatever.
Speaker 1: It opened at six and a half, it's up to nine,
Speaker 1: eight and a half, nine where depending on where you look. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think North Carolina wins is by a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Saturday seven thirty Network Sunshine Showdown a game they play
Speaker 3: for the Florida Cup. It is Florida State on the
Speaker 3: road at Florida. The Gators are a seventeen point home favorite.
Speaker 3: Dan not a lot of games in this history where
Speaker 3: you can say that seventeen points a big spread. Here,
Speaker 3: who you got?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Florida, I am. I think it's a
Speaker 1: slow burn. I think the hangtime is about three quarters,
Speaker 1: three and a half quarters, but well, yeah, into the
Speaker 1: third quarter, some more about two and a half quarters.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think Florida's gonna be able to throw the
Speaker 1: ball enough. So man, that is a lot of points though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns worth so forty to seventeen.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Florida State.
Speaker 1: Good playing interim situation, playing with emotion.
Speaker 3: Interim situation, playing with emotion, Still plenty of talent. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: Why ye won't be led by offense.
Speaker 3: I can't actually justify this pick, but I'm going purely
Speaker 3: on heart, purely on soul and Boston College seventeen feels
Speaker 3: like too much.
Speaker 1: Bye week ahead of it.
Speaker 3: Possible backdoor cover situation here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in Florida had a bye week as well,
Speaker 1: But all.
Speaker 3: Right, we just agree. Final game here that I've got
Speaker 3: on my slate, the Territorial Cup, ten pm on Saturday
Speaker 3: on ESPN. It's not a high profile matchup, but I
Speaker 3: think we both just love the Territorial Cup, the fact
Speaker 3: that they lost the trophy for years.
Speaker 1: Arizona State should be in the playoffs, Sir.
Speaker 3: Arizona at Arizona State. ASU is a fourteen point favorite.
Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna go Arizona. I hate pretty much everything
Speaker 3: about Arizona, but this is a classic letdown spot for
Speaker 3: ASU a week after beating Oregon. So ASU wins, but
Speaker 3: Arizona covers.
Speaker 1: Arizona has lost six straight against the spread, which is
Speaker 1: great in terms of trends. I think Arizona State wins
Speaker 1: this one somewhat easily. I don't think Arizona is at
Speaker 1: all equipped to hang time with the devils. Oh I
Speaker 1: love that sound already time far great, terrific. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think they wins this by win this by uh yeah,
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, about fourteen thirty four to twenty
Speaker 1: thirty seven to twenty one.
Speaker 3: All right, Dan, there you go.
Speaker 1: I have more games real quick. Maybe Houston. I mentioned
Speaker 1: nava's nine point favorites on the road against Houston. I
Speaker 1: think I like the midship Men giving them themselves at
Speaker 1: least a chance, at least a chance to get into
Speaker 1: the title game. Uh we got a battle for the
Speaker 1: Chancellor's spurs. Texas Tech at Texas Long Horns ten point favorites.
Speaker 1: I think they win, but not by double digits. Tech
Speaker 1: has won two in a row. In Austin. We've got
Speaker 1: the Rumble in the Rockies. Colorado at Utah, Colorado coming
Speaker 1: off a win against Washington. They're twenty eight and a
Speaker 1: half point dogs against the sure thing packed twelve champions
Speaker 1: Utah uts.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of points.
Speaker 1: I still may take Utah. I still may take you altitude,
Speaker 1: but both teams no altitude, so I don't think that's
Speaker 1: an actual factor. Georgia State, thank you, Georgia State at Georgia.
Speaker 1: Southern State is one four or five, but Southern is
Speaker 1: a touchdown favorite. That's modern day hate. Also, of note,
Speaker 1: Army is at Hawaii. Tie. Now do some geography math
Speaker 1: in your That's where West Point is and where Honold is. Like,
Speaker 1: it's eleven to twelve hours flying time, plus however long
Speaker 1: it takes to get from the Hudson Valley to what
Speaker 1: I assume is JFK and then to drive to hotel
Speaker 1: on campus. That's a long long day Bowl eligibility wise. Tie.
Speaker 1: These are the teams that need to win to play
Speaker 1: in December. Essentially Michigan State, Nebraska, Army, Ohio, Kent State,
Speaker 1: Oregon State, Colorado, Miszoo, Mississippi State, Troy, and Louisiana Monroe.
Speaker 1: And right now these are your championship game outlooks for
Speaker 1: next week. So we talked about the Cincinnati Memphis Navy situation,
Speaker 1: and ACC will be Clemson against the winner of what
Speaker 1: the Commonwealth Cup Virginia Virginia Tech, YEP Oklahoma Baylor rematch
Speaker 1: is set. That'll be in Arlington, ACC's and Charlotte. By
Speaker 1: the way, Ohio State takes on Minnesota or Wisconsin in
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Conference USA. It's way out there. Fau or Marshall
Speaker 1: taking on UAB or Louisiana Tech or Southern miss So
Speaker 1: that'll get sorted out this weekend. The MAC will be
Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio VERSUS Western or Central Michigan. Hey shout
Speaker 1: out Jim mcilwaine. The Mountain West will be Hawaii, Boise State,
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve Oregon against either Utah or USC depending
Speaker 1: on what the rumble and the Rockies SEC has been
Speaker 1: set for a little bit. Georgia LSU that's in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and the Sunbelt is app State at Louisiana. And you
Speaker 1: have down here that the FCS playoffs includes what is it,
Speaker 1: big stanky holy Cross at Monmouth.
Speaker 3: Big stanky holy Cross at Monmouth. We're not going to
Speaker 3: play this sound because it's not a lightning round. It's
Speaker 3: not a lightning round. Game. Yes, the first round of
Speaker 3: the SCS playoffs, we've got seven and five holy Cross
Speaker 3: against the Mouth. He's a different mouth, ye in the.
Speaker 1: Mon from mouthy Monmouth ten and two holy Cross seven
Speaker 1: and five. The winner takes on Jmu. Jmu with a
Speaker 1: new coach, though is on a losing streak to the
Speaker 1: pat League. They have a true, very true. They are
Speaker 1: on a losing streak, So something to pay attention to.
Speaker 1: And also our new friends at North Dakota State play
Speaker 1: the winner of North Dakota and Nichols in the FCS playoffs.
Speaker 1: We are not going to be making a return trip
Speaker 1: to Fargo at least this year. But we we missed
Speaker 1: the Fargo Dome and all that tailgating dearly. That's all
Speaker 1: I have, all right, Dan, Well, look you enjoy it
Speaker 1: one more thing though, we love one more thing. Do
Speaker 1: you want to play it as a secret Easter egg?
Speaker 1: After we say goodbye or do we just want to
Speaker 1: play right now? Let's play it right now. It's been
Speaker 1: a okay, Dan, So do you want to introduce it please?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So last year, before each of our friend Adam ameans
Speaker 3: announcing assignments, he would call in send us a voice Mamo,
Speaker 3: what have you let us know where he was going
Speaker 3: to be eating in any of these select cities. We
Speaker 3: called that the Adam Amine Voice Meal of the Week. Well,
Speaker 3: Adam's schedule has been a little bit off so far
Speaker 3: this year. He's been doing the Thursday game and it
Speaker 3: did shift.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Been flying around all over the country, no doubt, still
Speaker 3: eating at fine establishments. He just hasn't had a chance
Speaker 3: to call in. He saved up for this week, what
Speaker 3: with it being a food holiday Thanksgiving in the United States.
Speaker 3: So what we have here is a full on four
Speaker 3: minute recap of where Adam emin has eaten. This is
Speaker 3: a super twenty nineteen Voice Meal of the Week.
Speaker 1: Have listened.
Speaker 2: Hey guys, Adam Aman here.
Speaker 4: I have been absent most of the season with a
Speaker 4: crazy schedule. We've been on this awesome Thursday night run
Speaker 4: all season long. But I do feel bad. It's my fault.
Speaker 4: Do not blame Dan and Tie for the lack of voice.
Speaker 4: But I figured, since it's Thanksgiving Week, maybe the most
Speaker 4: sacred food.
Speaker 2: Day of the entire year, a day that a lot
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 3: Take very seriously when it comes to food.
Speaker 4: I figured, let's give you the entire Thursday Night voice
Speaker 4: meal run for twenty nineteen on this very special episode.
Speaker 4: And thanks to Dan and Ty for giving me the
Speaker 4: chance to share on this version of the solid verbal
Speaker 4: voice Meal. So we go all the way back to
Speaker 4: when we began the season in Cincinnati. Go to Soto
Speaker 4: for Italian food. It's got great atmosphere. I will never
Speaker 4: denigrate you for eating Skyline Chile also not my thing.
Speaker 2: Nata for a great brunch. There's multiple spots in the
Speaker 2: state of Ohio.
Speaker 4: Los Angeles, Sonora Town is the best date you can
Speaker 4: go on. I based this strictly off going on a
Speaker 4: date there with Dan Rubinstein one time. Amazing tacos. I
Speaker 4: also recommend, like he does, Marisco's Jalisco. But get some
Speaker 4: tacos Rabees when you're in Los Angeles, like, don't don't
Speaker 4: just limit yourself.
Speaker 2: Winston Salem, North Carolina. Go to Sweet Potatoes.
Speaker 4: You can pretty much order the entire starter menu, but
Speaker 4: don't forget the Campbel City Poutine. We went to New
Speaker 4: Orleans as well for that great Houston Tulane game.
Speaker 2: La Crate Nanu in Uptown. It's more of a classic French.
Speaker 4: Style restaurant, but it's got an incredible dinner and dessert
Speaker 4: crape menu. I recommend the crpe. It's like the Ratituoy
Speaker 4: type prepe.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 4: Memphis, we went to Gus's Fried Chicken for Matt Hasselbeck's birthday.
Speaker 4: I wanted to take my entire because they've never been
Speaker 4: there before. I would like to franchise one of those things,
Speaker 4: just out of curiosity. If anybody has any information on that,
Speaker 4: please let me know. Central Barbecue is my preference in Memphis,
Speaker 4: by the way, for barbecue, but you can't really go
Speaker 4: wrong with a lot of those famous places. I didn't
Speaker 4: go to dinner in Greenville, North Carolina.
Speaker 2: I was sick.
Speaker 4: I had the flu, but I asked one of my
Speaker 4: close friends who worked in Greenville for a long time,
Speaker 4: Sam Jones Barbecue is the best barbecue in Greenville, North Carolina.
Speaker 4: Speaking of North Carolina, we were in Raleigh. We ended
Speaker 4: up at this place called Capitol Club sixteen, which had
Speaker 4: this amazing prime burger, Like, just get the burger there,
Speaker 4: there's German food on the menu. It's got a really
Speaker 4: interesting atmosphere. Afterwards, down the street go to Bitter Sweet.
Speaker 4: It's a cocktail slash dessert bar. I got the Salty
Speaker 4: chip Wich ice cream sandwich. Highly recommended. Palo Alto, California.
Speaker 4: I know Dan chastised me for suggesting something that he
Speaker 4: always suggests in Hoby's.
Speaker 2: You get the coffee cake at Hoby's.
Speaker 4: And an incredible breakfast, but also my favorite spot in
Speaker 4: the legendary chef Choose for Chinese food. I ended up
Speaker 4: at Torches in Houston. There's a lot of great places
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 2: To in Houston. We had a wild week that week.
Speaker 4: I just went to Torches, ordered off the secret menu,
Speaker 4: get the trailer park Hillbilly Style. In Waco, Texas, we
Speaker 4: had that great Baylor West Virginia game. Milo All Day
Speaker 4: m Ilo All Day is the name of the place.
Speaker 4: Incredible Southern inspired food. Any of their entrees is a lock.
Speaker 4: Get the butcher block, the chicken, or the trout. You
Speaker 4: will not go wrong. Fried green tomatoes and maybe the
Speaker 4: best Brussels spots I've ever had Tampa Dat's Berry Sees
Speaker 4: stuffed meat loaf.
Speaker 2: It's meat loaf and it's stuffed with bacon.
Speaker 4: Hlopino mac and cheese, top with a ketchup glaze with
Speaker 4: mashed potatoes, peas and pearl onions. You probably don't want
Speaker 4: to go unless you just absolutely want torture yourself, but
Speaker 4: still worth it. Pittsburgh Sarah Finos for Homestyle Italian Joe
Speaker 4: took care of us. He asked us, do you want
Speaker 4: to order off the menu or if you just want
Speaker 4: us to cook for you?
Speaker 2: We said, just cook for us and it was the
Speaker 2: best Italian meal I've had in a long time.
Speaker 4: In Atlanta, Golden Eagle Diners Club, super small menu, they
Speaker 4: do all of it well and it's one of my
Speaker 4: favorite quiet atmospheres in the entire country. At any restaurant.
Speaker 4: And this week for Thanksgiving, we have the egg Bowl.
Speaker 4: In Starkville, Mississippi. Restaurant Tyler and the Veranda are two
Speaker 4: very nice places to go for Southern inspired food. But
Speaker 4: go to Strom Bullies and make sure you get the
Speaker 4: cookie dough bites cause there is no dessert better in
Speaker 4: all of Mississippi. That is your twenty nineteen Thanksgiving edition
Speaker 4: of the Solid Verbal Voice Meal.
Speaker 2: Thanks Dan and Ty stay solid.
Speaker 3: There you go. Wow, I love that words. He probably
Speaker 3: scripted that out, not what he was gonna say, but
Speaker 3: certainly he had a running.
Speaker 1: He get a wristband.
Speaker 3: He may have had a wristband.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am picturing him laying on his bed, closing
Speaker 1: his eyes, having the phone next to his face, and
Speaker 1: just doing a mental upload of every calorie he's consumed
Speaker 1: over the course of the season. That was very impressive.
Speaker 3: That was some real like neo metal spike in the
Speaker 3: back of his head type of stuff right there.
Speaker 1: That was like a Ted talk. Yeah, that was just
Speaker 1: like one of those mini Ted talks that like, this
Speaker 1: is inspiring if you really want to do damage to
Speaker 1: your gut. And Adam Amen remains a very lean person
Speaker 1: somehow despite all of the salted cookie, do meatball pasta burger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: situations that he's done very very hard.
Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate that. Thank you, sir. I know you're
Speaker 3: out there listening. We appreciate it. I missed that. I
Speaker 3: haven't talked to Adam in a while. I hope he
Speaker 3: will see him soon. We'll see him soon. And to
Speaker 3: all of you out there, I hope you enjoyed that
Speaker 3: as much as we did. At a minimum, we hope
Speaker 3: you enjoyed your Thanksgiving. We hope you're all safe out
Speaker 3: there on the roadways and the airways, the railways, waterways,
Speaker 3: what have you as you get to your Thanksgiving meal.
Speaker 3: It's always fun to do this show and talk so
Speaker 3: many rivalries, but we hope everyone out there stays safe,
Speaker 3: enjoys their Thanksgiving feast, and join us. Back up with
Speaker 3: us on Sunday. We're gonna have a lot to discuss.
Speaker 3: These rivalry games are always a bit haywire, so please
Speaker 3: come on back Sunday afternoon. We're gonna recap all the games.
Speaker 3: Don't forget if at any point throughout this rivalry weekend
Speaker 3: you want to give us a call is four eight
Speaker 3: verbal one. That is four eight eight three seven two
Speaker 3: two five one, let us know what's on your mind.
Speaker 3: You can also do a voice memo and then email
Speaker 3: it to the reverb line all one word at gmail
Speaker 3: dot com. We're gonna mix those up, put them together,
Speaker 3: and craft our reverb.
Speaker 1: Segment on Sunday afternoon. I can't wait for Sunday show.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for all of these games. It's one
Speaker 1: of my all time favorite shows when there's just so
Speaker 1: much emotion going into Rivalry weekend with zero zero records present,
Speaker 1: zero records present. Yeah, it's been a wonderful hangtime with
Speaker 1: you today.
Speaker 3: Tay, and you as well. Dan.
Speaker 1: I just closed the sound up. It's okay. People can
Speaker 1: remember it or did.
Speaker 3: I Thank you so much to everyone out there for listening.
Speaker 3: Thank you to our friend Peter for sending me this
Speaker 3: immaculate spreadsheet. I appreciate it. We'll talk to you all
Speaker 3: in a few days. Happy Thanksgiving and stay solid.
Speaker 2: Peace.