WEBVTT - Rivalry Week Preview 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:05.600 Welcome to the solid verbo call that for me. 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.160 I'm a man, I'm forty. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.119 I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:10.680 be happy. 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.440 You want to be happy for Dake Edith State. Is 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:17.120 that woo woom? And Dan and Tie. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.840 Welcome back to these solid verbal boys and girls. My 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.520 name is Ty Hildebrand. Joining me over there on the 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:28.600 far side of the us of A. Your friend, our 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:30.400 friend Dan Rubenstein has got a little bit of a 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:32.919 vocal issue going a little bit of Baker Mayfield going 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:34.800 on in that larynx. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.360 Dan, how you doing? You know when you spit so 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:38.200 much fire? 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:38.760 Tie? 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.400 Yeah, when you when you are the dragon of wrong, 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.600 college football takes it takes a toll on one's voice 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.120 box on the chords. And you know, I've been pumping 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:54.040 tea and lozenges and NonStop correct football information into my 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:58.040 brain and my body, and I managed I was actually 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.880 unsure this morning. Yeah, And I apologie to everybody who 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.880 is now disappointed that they didn't get Andy Staples or 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.240 Bill Hancock or whoever is on your speed dial to 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:06.880 replace I was. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.119 Going to say, possible back up better than the starter Saturday. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.440 Oh my gosh, I mean without a doubt, but I 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.960 am able. I am here. I have lots of college 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.520 football opinions. And that's good because one you're probably on 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.679 a plane or train or automobile or trying to drown 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.320 out your in laws while listening to us and so 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:30.679 authentically Rivalry Week when let's assume wherever you are, all 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:31.959 of the records are thrown out. 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.080 Yes, well you got to throw them out. Here's a sound, 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.800 got to throw those records out right out of the choot. 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:38.080 Here we throw the records out. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.919 There's so much action there, there are so many emotions 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:47.440 going into Rivalry Week that I wouldn't dare do anything 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.480 but try my absolute best to show up, because that's 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.120 what ninety percent of things. The other ten percent is 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.680 just me being wrong. And I'm happy to do it 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:56.480 with you, buddy. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.639 I'm happy to be here with you as well. Happy 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.320 thanks thanks Giving to each and all listening to the show. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.720 If you're in the States or abroad, who knows, We 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.200 appreciate very much you making us part of your holiday. So, 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.960 as you know by now, this show has been released 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:16.000 a little bit early, and we do that every Thanksgiving, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.600 every Rivalry Week because there are games on Thursday, there 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.919 are games on Friday, there are games on Saturday. If 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.440 we put the show out Thursday morning, I don't know 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.360 how many people are going to be listening on Thanksgiving. 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.160 We want to give you a chance, ample opportunity to 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.760 listen to the show while you're in transit on the 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:34.840 way to Grandma's house. What have you? So, thank you again, 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.080 as we say each and every show, for making us 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.120 part of your day, part of your week, part of 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.920 your college football season. If you haven't yet subscribed, you 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:47.440 can do so. Doesn't matter what the podcasting app is. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.079 We are out there. I'm done trying to list them 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.040 all off. Yeah, because there are a million. I look 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.880 at the reports, there are a million. 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We put them together 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.440 into a fun little segment we called Reverbs when we 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:21.960 do our Rivalry Week recap show on Sunday morning. Daniel, 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:22.840 I like. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.200 That consistently every year. If you probably listen back for 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.200 a week whatever fourteen fifteen, when it is the week 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:35.240 of these rivalry games, you consistently stumble over rivalry liek Okay. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.320 Ours are very difficult to say. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.960 They're difficult for everybody, but I love that you have 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.000 not you have not changed over the years. Ty. You 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.600 give the people something familiar. And now can we just 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.720 as we get into the games, can we introduce the 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.360 fact that we're getting into the games for all the 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.000 people who listen on like one and a half speed, 0:04:55.320 --> 0:05:01.120 double speed, and start and introduce it very slow. Let's 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:02.440 do it, Dan, let's just jump right in. 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.880 I'm assuming you don't have any other news tidbits that 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:10.599 you need to discuss, so we sho just jump right in. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:15.920 Tony Sanchez was let go from UNLV, Bob Davey won't 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:20.000 be back at New Mexico, and no high profile jobs 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.400 have been filled as of yet, although I have noticed 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:30.159 that the Bob Stoops Florida State rumors are going down 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:35.360 a conspiratory. I could not be more thrilled for the 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:40.800 meeting of the one percent loan of the Florida State 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:45.400 fan base, with the coaching rumor, with a high high 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.360 reach of a candidate who's not coming to Tallahassee. I 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.360 love that marriage and I hope it lasts forever. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.000 All right, Well, we will get into that on our 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:54.279 Tues cruise show. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.400 Yes, But for. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.520 Now, Dan, we have a loaded slate in front of us, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.720 has said it a few moments ago. This is typically 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.599 the week where we've got the longest list of games 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.760 to get through. And look, it's not because all of 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.400 them have national significance. A lot of them have local significance. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.040 But college football is very local, and that's part of 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.320 the challenge of doing this show on a national level. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.440 How do we touch all those games that matter to people. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.880 So when we get to week fourteen and we start 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.479 talking rivalries, of course you throw the. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.840 Records out, right, we know that obviously, always, always, always, always, But. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.960 You don't just throw the records out for games like Michigan, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.720 Ohio State. You also throw them out for North Carolina 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.039 and c State. You throw them out for Georgia Georgia Tech. 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.360 We'll get into all those games, certainly as much as 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.120 we can in the time that we have a lot. 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:48.520 And with that being said, it is a difficult situation 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.840 to try and name this Saturday. I suspect there are 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.840 a number of different directions we could go with it. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.840 Of Course, it's a little cliche to go with the 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.960 food theme, being so it is Thanksgiving, yet it does 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:01.320 fit very well Daniel. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.120 Yeah, I mean I was just gonna, you know, sack 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.000 the record Saturday. I'm just gonna lean in, sack the record, 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:08.960 Sack the records Saturday. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:09.200 Tie. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.320 It's just, you know, I don't want to veer too 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.520 far away. I mean, you have headliner games, you have 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:18.760 games that will potentially affect major postseason situations. But in 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.720 the end, I even take a little exception with you 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.280 using the word local, because all rivalries matter like this. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.920 It's not if you like college football at all, you 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.920 like the fact that there there is a weird history 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.720 in the Civil War, then you know the battle for 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:36.239 the Old Oaken Bucket and Pharmageddon and the Territorial Cup 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.800 and Commonwealth Cup like this, it shouldn't just matter to 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.880 people in those specific metropolitan areas. Tie. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:44.320 This is I agree. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.240 All It's all just wacky and wonderful and worth celebrating. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.280 So it's sacked the Record Saturday. As far as I'm. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.960 Concerned, Sacked the Records Saturday is not bad. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.720 I don't know if you do you know about slytherin? 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:54.640 Is that a word that you're familiar with? Do a 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:55.720 Slytherin Saturday? 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.640 Slit? Wait, you're asking me if I'm familiar with Slytherin just. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.800 A little bit of a goof as my voice goes. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:08.760 I'm looking at our friend Peters Thanksgiving spreadsheet here. As 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.880 I said, it's immaculate. I'm looking for s words. I 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:16.400 see a smoked beats on here. Sure, I see salad. 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:17.800 We're not going to go sellas stuffing. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.160 I mean, we really are stuffing ourselves with college football 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:21.920 these long weekend. 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.880 I thought this said smoke weed. It says smoke Wednesday. Okay, 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.040 so that's a little different right now. I guess the 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.120 leader in the clubhouse would be sack the record Saturday. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:31.400 I'm okay with that. I like that. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:33.520 I am going to keep you. You're not going to 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:34.080 use stuffing. 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.040 I thought about stuffing, but it's very cleiche and we're 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.479 better than that. I'm going to keep looking through this spreadsheet. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.160 There are about a thousand lines in this thing, and 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.320 if time permits, I'll go through it or apply some 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.240 of what I find in here to our analysis. But 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:53.760 for the time being, let's stick with sack the record Saturday. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.200 And obviously there is there are so many games beyond 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:59.359 Saturday worth stuffing your face. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:05.880 With sore, and that gets us moret our next topic here. Yeah, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.120 so this is also a challenge because you've got three 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:14.000 days worth of games. You've got a couple headliners between 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.680 Ohio State and Michigan and Auburn, Alabama, even Wisconsin, Minnesota, 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.360 certainly Bedroom Oklahoma, Oklahoma State. Those are the ones that 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:26.720 really rise to the top for me. I mean, I 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.560 guess it's a matter of on Saturday, when is your 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.680 primary window of opportunity, because you know there are games 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.160 dotted throughout Friday, and I'm sure you can find time on. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.079 Well, you've got the Thursday, Hey. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:41.520 You get the egg ball. I'm sure you could find 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.200 time on each of those first two days, Thursday being 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.680 Thanksgiving and Friday being Black Friday to kind of go 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.800 out and do other stuff. There just aren't as many games. 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:54.880 But Saturday, Saturday is chock full of pretty much everything. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.880 And if I'm looking for a window here, I think 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:02.520 it's later. I think it's after Alabama Auburn. The Alabama 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.160 Auburn game and the Ohio State Michigan game are the 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.839 ones that I care the most about. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.480 Ohio State Michigan is a what big new it's a 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.760 noon or Yeah, Clemson, South Carolina, Paal metos a noon. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.400 So yeah, Alabama, that's what thrit's of three point thirty. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.839 I only ask because my time zones are now completely 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.640 whacked that I've been on the West coast for three days. Oh, 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.800 you're trying to translate it on the fly, But I 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.000 think you're right. I mean, Bedlam looks to be an 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.920 eight PM or yeah, Bedlam is like seven thirty eight o'clock. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.560 I think that promises a lot of unexpected entertainment. But 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.160 we have a backup quarterback in that game. We'll see. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:42.080 But yeah, I guess I would lean that way. But 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:43.960 try to be back for the second half. Go on 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.520 your date, go into an early movie, whatever it is, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.199 you know, deal with all of your leftovers, get out 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.720 of your in law's hair. But get back for the 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.520 second half of Bedlam. I think it's gonna be kind 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:54.240 of weird. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:59.600 Let's start with Big Noon on Saturday. We're gonna jump 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.600 around here from Saturday back to Thursday, back to Friday, 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:07.520 back to Saturday. Just please hang with us here. Let's 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:08.199 start time. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:09.560 Continuum doesn't have a chance. 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:12.520 That's right. Let's start though, with the big New game 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.959 on Fox on Saturday. It is Ohio State at Michigan. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.640 You know this game. Well, Ohio State is now down 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.960 to an eight point favorite. This one started a little 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.760 bit higher. Seems like there's some money coming in on Michigan. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.640 Let's ask I think the operative question here, and that 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.320 is the one we started with in the preseason. 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:34.280 Yeah. 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.400 Can Jim Harbaugh finally get the monkey off his back 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.120 and get a win over Ohio State? 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:43.320 He can? Yeah? I mean okay, So first off, big 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.720 picture for all of these games, whether they're big or small, 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.240 let's make sure we talk about like, what's on the line, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.600 What are the stakes? What is a successful performance short 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.319 of winning if one exists, because I don't think successful 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.160 performance sort of winning exists for Michigan in this game. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.480 Can a team put a fear of God factor in 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.960 another team? That kind of thing? So, yes, Michigan can 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.960 win this game. You know how I feel, And sometimes 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:07.800 it happens to be right. I think it's better for 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:12.439 gambling purposes than actual outright purposes. Good defense at home 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.120 as a dog in a tough place to play, which 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:19.160 Michigan Stadium can be. Shape Patterson is the clear best 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:23.040 quarterback Ohio State will face, at least during the regular 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.880 twelve game portion of their season. Yes, the current iteration 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.319 of shape Patterson. I think so current iteration, Yes, current 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.240 iteration of shape Patterson. We seem to be seeing the 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.840 most comfortable version of him in this new offense that 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.040 we've seen all year long. He looks to be peaking. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.520 The Penn State score for Ohio State I think was 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.680 a little misleading because of turnovers, because Ohio State controlled 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.160 that game, but turnovers exist, Hi, it'd be stupid to 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.960 say that, you know, putting a big asterisk on the 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.280 final score. I think Michigan can hang in this game. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.400 I think Michigan can get theirs. I think they can 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.240 force Justin fields to be uncomfortable. We've seen what Penn 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.520 State and Wisconsin did with a good pass rush in 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:08.240 changing the field and making Justin fields uncomfortable between terrific 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.240 scrambles and amazing third down throws. I think Michigan ultimately 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.160 keeps it close, but just doesn't get there because of 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:20.840 how strong and fundamentally sound Ohio State's defense is in 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.199 defending what I think are a lot of improved playmakers 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.880 for Michigan. So I have it as Buckeye's twenty seven 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.880 Michigan twenty four I'm going to take the points. Wow, 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.800 in a game that looks to be it has a 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.040 wintry mix and it should be in the thirties, so 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.520 weather should play a factor, and I think that actually 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.000 favors Ohio State a little bit. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:42.800 Yeah, I mean typically on rivalry week, taking the points 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.360 is not a bad stance, correct, It's not a bad stance. 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:52.480 And look, Michigan's playing with some momentum right now. They 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.120 were like a nine, nine and a half point dog 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.000 when I made out my document. Now it's down to eight. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.120 So clearly it didn't surprise me a couple of days ago, 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:03.880 doesn't surprise me now that Michigan's a bit of a 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.520 trendy pick here. It would surprise me though if they won, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.760 and that's for two reasons. First off, Michigan still isn't 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.319 a great running team, and I understand the offense is 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.439 a little different now and it might not be predicated 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:19.480 as much on the run, but either way, due to 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.600 their lack of efficiency there, it puts more pressure on 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:26.160 shape Patterson and like you said, he's been playing his 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.120 best football over the last couple of weeks. The offense 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.040 is like a thousand percent better now than it was 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.400 the start of the season, and they are playing with 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.280 a lot of confidence. I just can't shake the feeling 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:42.360 that the most likely path for Michigan falls solely on 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.160 defense and solely on shape Patterson, and that to me, 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.480 that formula does not feel like it's enough to win. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.000 Could it be enough to cover, sure, but on his face, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.920 those two things alone do not strike me as being 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:58.200 enough to beat Ohio State. And then secondly, I think 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.960 the Ohio State running game, that that combination of Justin 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:05.240 Fields and JK. Dobbins and some of master fatigue that 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.200 can strain this Michigan defense. They've got some home run 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:15.520 hitters in Columbus, and just that combination of Justin Field, 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.880 what he can do through the air and with his legs, 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.200 it makes that rushing attack very difficult to stop. You 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.320 got to cover a lot. Michigan's already got a propensity 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:28.000 to give up some big plays on the ground, and 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.480 I think that aspect of this game is something that 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.640 could come back to bite them here. I know I 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.360 said at the start of the year that Michigan was 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.240 going to win this game. I am taking that back. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.160 I also am really close to locking up Ohio State here. 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.640 I think it's something like thirty one seventeen, maybe the 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.120 same exact prediction I made a week ago against Penn State. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:55.840 But this line feels incredibly low to me for an 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.120 Ohio State team that I still think, yeah, maybe one 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.480 of the best we've seen. I really feel that way. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.160 So okay, So the other thoughts I would add to 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.720 this is a Michigan win looks like basically hitting on 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.200 some big plays and tightening up in the red zone 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.360 and turning Ohio State sevens into three or three attempts. 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.600 And Michigan's not great in the red zone at least 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.520 over the course of the entire season. It's been a 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.760 pretty inconsistent ride when pushed and having to defend their 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:27.720 own goal line, So I'm not wild about that fact. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.720 But again, I think Michigan's defense is good enough to 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.760 try and force Justin Fields into beating them downfield, which 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.920 is pretty difficult, and it's something that Ohio State has 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.520 not been counted on like this. Ohio State is a 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.760 running team that Justin Fields is part of that, and 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.800 he makes situational great place. We saw these some great 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.880 touchdown throws against the better teams on their schedule, but 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.400 this isn't a downfield team. How did they beat you know, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.640 largely Michigan last year those crossing routes that they were 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.400 just getting the ball to speed quickly and turning eight 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:01.160 yard catches into nineteen yard after the hetch runs, I 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.000 don't think. And by the way, Don Brown and Ryan 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.720 Day on the same staff at Boston College, I believe, 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.840 so very familiar with each other. I think Michigan will 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.119 get that short up and they're a good pressuring team. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.240 I think they're going to be ahead late, and I 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.399 think Ohio State's gonna come back and win it, and 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.800 we're going to see a new element of the Buckeye. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.120 So I have twenty seven to twenty four. 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.240 Okay, Well, that would be fun. Yeah, that'll be fun. Right, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:24.800 that'd be fun. I'm not rooting against it, but I 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.399 say thirty one seventeen Ohio State wins and covers. Let's 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.880 move on to the Iron Bowl Saturday, three thirty CBS. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:38.560 It is Alabama at Auburn. Alabama is a three and 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:43.480 a half point favorite. Dan, Okay, so you want to 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:48.359 talk about implications. There are potential playoff implications here for Alabama, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:52.000 because look, it's not hard to imagine Georgia losing in 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:57.280 the SEC title and Utah losing in the Pac twelve game, sure, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.879 and Oklahoma losing another one, either to Oklahoma State or 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.040 bail or. I know it's three things that might need 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.400 to happen, but gosh, it seems like they've already got 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.000 the inside track potentially. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:09.240 Yeah. 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.719 So that's why this one is very meaningful for Auburn. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.600 We know it's a rivalry game. We know there have 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.479 been antics in this game in the past. This is 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:23.840 somewhat difficult to handicap with Mac Jones now the Alabama 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.199 starting quarterback two what goes down for the season, But 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.920 at the same time, it feels easy to me. It 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.560 feels like an easy pick for me. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.080 Oh, okay, make it. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.679 I think it's easy. I think Auburn loads up the box. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.360 I think they forced Mac Jones to beat him through 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.800 the air, and I don't think he's going to carve 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.120 him up. But Bama goes four or five deep at 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.440 wide out. These guys are amazing after the catch, They're 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.520 gonna find a way to get open. Sooner or later, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:56.280 they're gonna connect for big play. Dan. I am actually 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:01.359 more worried about Bonnicks BONICKX. Yeah, true freshman bo Nicks 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.119 against a really good Alabama defense. He doesn't have the 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.960 supporting cast as Mac Jones. I think the Tigers are 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:09.920 going to struggle to move the ball most of this game. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.440 I think it's lower scoring than it would be if 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:15.000 Tour were in there. But I am on board with 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:18.400 Alabama here. I think they win it twenty four to seventeen. 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.600 I think you get a discount with three and a 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.639 half points because Tua is not in the game. And 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:25.800 I know it's at Auburn, but let's lock this baby 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:33.199 up long the week. How many times, Dan, are you 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.080 going to get to pick Alabama minus three and a 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:36.120 half against anybody? 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.359 It's not I mean, it's not a bad call, but 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.120 this is a backup quarterback who has not been tested 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.520 and now going up against if it's not the best 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.040 defensive front of the SEC. You know it's in that 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.640 top group and top group in the country. So that's 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.280 it's going to be different for him from what he's seen. 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.720 What he played against Arkansas, and he played against back 0:19:55.720 --> 0:20:02.200 half or he played last week obviously was that Western Carolina. Yep, 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.200 all right, So in their last three games and last 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:13.119 three big games, Auburn has scored thirteen points, yes, twenty points, 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.880 fourteen points. Now, two of those are on the road 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:19.639 at Florida, Alico. This game is at home. It's a 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:21.560 huge game at home, so that there's going to be 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:25.040 even more juice running through the veins of the Auburn 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:29.520 offensive coaching staff and the Auburn offense. A lot of gravy, gravy, 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.640 A lot of gravy. Yeah, a lot of production gravy. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.960 Oh god, I'm that's a little weird. 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:35.280 Yeap. 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.080 While I'm talking about this, look up production gravy dot 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:40.080 com and see if anything inappropriate comes up. 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:40.720 I'll do it. 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:43.840