WEBVTT - The OTP | Exclusive Interviews with Two Coaches 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:13.680 This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.239 Where you are the plan Farm Bureau Health Plans makes 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.880 it easy for you to get the health coverage you 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:25.120 need for less than you think. See how at FBHP 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:29.520 dot com With Amy Wells, I'm Mike Keith. We're gonna 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.960 hear from a couple of new coaches on this edition. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.479 Of the APA we are and I'm very excited about that. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.360 We begin with Anthony Levine and you're saying, wait a minute, 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.040 I'm one of the ot people. I know that name, 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.240 and you're right, you do. He played at Tennessee State 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.280 and then he spent ten years with the Ravens as 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.680 a backup defensive back. He would play situationally for the 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.720 most part, but he was an outstanding specialty teams player. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:06.839 Retired last spring and then spent the twenty twenty two 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:11.560 season still with the Ravens organization. He is now on 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:17.280 the Titans staff as an assistant special teams coach. So 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:23.320 Anthony Levine, Tennessee State, Baltimore Ravens, and now Tennessee Titans. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:24.360 Look at that. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.600 Did you know him when you were with the Ravens. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:27.080 I did not. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.440 I was just thinking about it right now, and I 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.240 don't think I think you've mismissed each other by a year. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.640 I think so we were not there at the same time. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.119 But I still like him. I like his energy. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.720 Man, his energy is really good. He didn't have any 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:46.959 experience in terms of the specific on field coaching, but 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.120 he was such a good special teams player, and because 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.360 of the enthusiasm and the energy you will hear and 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:58.200 the professionalism, Craig Ackerman was interested in him, and when 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.440 they talked to him, they said, you know, we think 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:06.160 you've got really something, and so we're going to bring 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.839 you in and give you a chance to be part 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.080 of this staff because we think you add an element. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:17.400 As they went through this offseason, and I don't know 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:22.040 that retooling the staff totally. They retold the offensive staff 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:26.000 for sure, but they were trying to add some elements. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.480 Yeah, I think that's a really good way to put it. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.920 I don't know that they were necessarily intentionally looking to say, 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.440 we need a person to coach this, we need someone 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:42.639 to do this. But what they were looking for were traits, right, characteristics. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:47.639 They were looking for an energy, something to infuse in 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.760 the group of coaches that they have but also within 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:51.480 the team as. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.040 A whole verybel liked you. Yep, and he said we 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.280 want you here, and so he hired him and you 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.760 will hear. Wise, I got a chance to talk with Anthony, 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:04.040 who used to be the enemy and now he's part 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.960 of the Tennessee Titans as an assistant special teams coach, 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:16.560 Anthony E. Bean talking with me on the OT Anthony 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.119 Levian Senior, what are you doing at Ascension same time 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.400 as sports Park because all of us associate you with 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.880 the Baltimore Ravens. You're number forty one for the Ravens. 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:26.760 What are you doing here? 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.360 Well? Now, now I'm a tighter. I'm assistance mus Saints 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.519 coach for the Tennessee Titans. Now i'ma tighten though. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.360 But I mean I'm a little skeptical because you tortured 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.480 us for years. You played great against us every time 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.280 you made big plays on special teams, those heated Ravens 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:47.600 Titans games between twenty twelve and twenty twenty one playoff game. 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.400 Even is it a little weird for you maybe like 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:51.080 it is for us? 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.600 Yes, we'd okay, I mean it started off, it started 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.840 off weird, you know, just being and being back being 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:00.320 back in Nashville though, I mean, you know, I went 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.960 to school here, but being a ben a Titan, being 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.800 a Titan has been it's been some getting used to, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.160 you know, but but being here, being around Coach Raves 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.520 and ben Awan Awkin has been around everybody, that's kind 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.520 of kind of made me more comfortable. But yeah, but 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.680 to your point, it was like sometimes when I'm walking, 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.000 when I'm walking in the hallways and I see some 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.880 of the guys who I payed against, is kind of like, 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:29.120 I wonder, I wonder do they like, how they feel, 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:30.640 like what they think, you know what I'm saying. So 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.960 sometimes you know, I've thought that, but nobody never really said. 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.920 It's been nothing but respect for from both sides. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.120 Well, I think there's respect for you because I mean, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.280 all those years I built, all those rosters and all 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:47.240 those charts, and the quarterbacks changed, and the running backs changed, 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.480 ray Lewis changed, and had Red changed. I mean, and 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.880 there's forty one from Tennessee State University, Anthony Levine Senior 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.520 right there, coming down on special teams gonna make something happen. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.960 It's gotta be a special feeling that you know, you 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.760 put in that time that people respect what you did 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.560 so much, even if you were on the other side 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.760 that people respect what you did so much. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.560 You know what, Man, to be honest with you, man, 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.160 I've been blessed. I've been blessed I have. I have 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:21.160 great people around me when it comes for just everything 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.200 that I've had. I've always had a good close net 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.040 of people around me that I always made sure that 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.240 no matter what I needed, you know that I had it. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.800 You know, so I can just focus on football and 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.200 I can focus on whatever I need to focus on. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.960 But I didn't realize, like I knew, my teammates respected me. 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.280 I knew that like I knew, because that's one thing 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.400 that I've always wanted. I always wanted to respect for 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.919 my teammates. And once I earned the respect for my teammates, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.760 then I wanted to respect for my coaches. But number one, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.919 it was always I gotta earn a respect for my teammates. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:56.480 But when I realized the respect that I had amongst 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.760 the league, like when I when you meet people out, 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.560 you may go different places, you'll meet people right and 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:04.000 you're like you'll talk and oh you funny one, I'm like, yeah, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.440 you know. But when I retired when I retired, and 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.800 then all the messages that I got from on Twitter, 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.239 on social media, and even like coaches and ex players 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.640 who I played against their retired like five six years 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.560 before I retired, they calling me sending me messages. That's 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.599 when I was like, dang, like I ain't know that. 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.480 I didn't know that people really knew who I was. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:24.760 To be honest with you. 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:28.080 Whether you're a carpenter or you're in insurance sales or 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:32.000 you're in business, if people respect how you do your job, 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.320 that's a great feeling. That's that's kind of the ultimate. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:37.680 Isn't it right. That's but again that that's that's one 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.479 thing I've always wanted. All I wanted was the respect 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.599 of my peers, you know. And it's been like that 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.880 since I was little, even when I played in high school. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:46.920 I've always wanted to respected my teammates. And then when 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.440 I played against other teams, I just wanted them to 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.400 respect me, Like whether we won or lost, at the 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.880 end of the game, I always wanted to earn the respect, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.120 you know, because if you earn anybody respect, I feel 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.320 like that's the ultimate. That's the ultimate thing. Because a 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.240 lot of guys he gon his lead. A lot of 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:03.919 guys make a lot of money, a lot of guys 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.200 might have a lot of playing time, but then when 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.000 they leaves, like they might not have the respect that 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.240 they piers or they teammates or anybody like that. So 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.480 for me, man, I just I shop on respect. So 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:15.800 I've always wanted respect. 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.560 I want a backup. So you're originally from Louisiana, yes, sir, 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.560 and spent high school in North Carolina. What'ston Salem? Salem? 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.000 How'd you get to TSU? How'd you come to Nashville? 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:29.480 So I was being recruited by North Carolina Tory Hills 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:34.360 James Western. Here's a special teams coordinator there, and I 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.440 ain't know going to a camp in North North Carolina 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.200 camp and I had a great I'm doing pretty good 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.080 at this camp. So this coach, coach mitches, he pulls 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.280 me out the drills, right, he pushed me out the drifts. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:47.720 He's like, hey, you want need to see no more. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:49.840 He's like You're gonna be fine, Like you don't need 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.680 to see no more? Right, So he pulled me out 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.720 the drill. So, make a long story short, Coach Web 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.360 comes up to me and he's like, why are you 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:56.680 not in the drills? I was like, well, that coach 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.400 pulled me out the drills. He told me I was good, 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.760 But that coach was at Townson University, so I guess 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.080 he wanted to recruit me to go to Townsend. So 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.800 Coach Webb put me back into drills, and you know, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.040 I ended up doing pretty good in those drells. Got 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.360 MVP at the camp, me and another guy from Weston 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:18.600 Salem named Antonio o' wallow. But so they still recruited 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.720 me to go North Carolina and then Coach Webb end 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.960 up getting a head coaching job at Tennessee State. So 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.560 when he got a coach job at Tennessee State, I 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.960 never cleared like clearing house and n C double A 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.040 and all that. I never cleared and that's why I 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.040 ended up at Tennessee State. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.320 What's the best part of your Tennessee State memory? 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.520 Man, this gonna sound this is gonna sound wild, but 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.040 my my best memory that I have of Tennessee State 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:48.240 comes from Dominique Rogers Commarti and we used to have 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:52.400 like five am workouts, and I remember walking into five 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.640 am workouts and it's a big hill onside Tennessee State. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.440 And I'm walking into Gentry because that's where we worked 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.800 out at in the mornings. As a talking to Gentry, 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:05.400 you hear somebody like running or like grunting, you know 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.000 what I'm saying, Like they're running. So we hear this 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.760 noise and we go to the side of the building 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:13.560 and it's Dominique Rogers Commande. He's running heels, running hills 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.960 before we have this five allion workout. So I'm like, dang, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.920 what you doing? And he's just going and going. He's 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.080 just like and you watching them, and that's the thing. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.280 We gotta get inside. We gotta go workout. So we 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.000 get inside. Dominique is drenched. I'm talking about dead tired. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:32.400 He gets into the workout and still wins every single 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.920 workout and he's still going hard, still doing that, and 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.520 that right there told me, like, right there was like, oh, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.360 this is different. But that's why he ended up going 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.720 first round like top sixteen or fifteen whatever he went. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.240 But that right there was probably one of the moments 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.520 that kind of changed the way I looked at just 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:51.080 hard work. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.920 And you didn't get drafted, No, you ended up signing 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.400 with the Green Bay Packers, played there two years and 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.240 you were one of Aaron Rodgers' favorite players that he 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.480 practiced against. Why were you one of Aaron Rodgers's favorite 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.079 players to practice against? 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:11.200 Man, this guy's good. Thank you. I ain't know people 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.240 knew that. I don't know if I ever said that, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:18.760 but yeah, all right, so Mike McCarthy. So Mike again, 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.600 I come from Tennessee State. I'm an undrafted guy. I 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.600 have no idea about. I have no idea about A 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:30.160 head coach is an officive guy, defensive guy, specially these guys. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.760 I have no idea about none of this. So anyway, 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:37.480 we in practice, and I used to discuise a lot. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.520 So I'm if I'm supposed to be in the post, 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.000 I'm down to the right side acting like I'm blessing 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:43.960 or whatever. Then I'll run to the post Lake, but 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.800 I'm messing up practice. So Mike McCarthy, he's like pissed. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.200 So he's like, Lavin, you gotta stop doing that. The 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.000 court says not I've been a post. You not been 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.600 a post. And I'm like, all right, yes, sir. So 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.440 then ay Rod come to me, and ay Rod like, nah, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.440 doing what you're doing? And I'm like, because I was, 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.880 I kept disguising. I was kind of like, I'll mess 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.320 him up in practice sometimes so that they know they 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.720 know what type of defense you run it right, so 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.240 they'll know if you run the coup of three or 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.599 you running zero, because like it's courted, the practice is 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.559 caughted or whatever, so he knows that. But I'm not 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.920 doing what the court says, like i know I'm pus 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.880 to be in the post, but I'm not giving him 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.680 that pre look. So I'm showing him like I'm down, 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.920 or I'm showing something else. I have somebody else doing 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.400 something else. And I just did that, like I don't 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.560 I'm just messing around like I'm playing, but I'm having 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.280 fun in practice like at a time on practice squad. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.959 So it's like you gotta do something, you know what 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.199 I'm saying. They keep game. Yeah I'm trying. I'm trying 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.719 to and I'm trying to have fun. So I just 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.920 kept doing that, kept doing that, and I mean, every 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.280 day I'm a cart thatll be hissed. But Aaron Rodgers 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.440 kept telling me to keep doing it, so I kept 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.120 doing it, kept doing it, and that's when he was 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.559 just called me like he used to call me a 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.199 master master disaster. So uh so every time you see me, 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:02.920 call me like master, master, hey, master like that. But yeah, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.400 that's what I did in practice. So I just kind 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.000 of I've always did that and you know, just kind 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.640 of create a habit. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.160 Anthony, what are you gonna do in one of your 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.679 players now doesn't follow the cards? What are you gonna do? 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:16.280 Paybacks for? 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.400 Hell? But you know what, though, you want you want 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:20.120 to know what's crazy? 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:20.439 What's that? 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.080 What's crazy is? And I'm not saying I have anything 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.960 to do with this. I'm not. Okay, I shouldn't even 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.720 say this, but right in the Super Bowl, ay Rod 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.880 makes a throw right with Polo Malo is disguising right, 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.559 and he throws. I mean he's but I mean he's 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.440 always been a great pastor, got great precision and stuff 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.840 like that. But I feel like, you know, the things 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.880 that I did in practice, Like at the end of 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:48.160 the day, the look team gotta give the offense or 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.360 the defense a great look. If you just go out 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:51.960 there and just go through the just go through the 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.600 motions and and you're not you're not making them better. 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.400 So when they get out there on Sunday, they thinking 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.520 that they just gonna run, they just gonna run past 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.079 the corner or run past the safety. That's not real life, 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:02.840 you know. So it's like, you got to get out 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.480 there at the end of the day. If the car 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.240 says you got to be in the A gap and 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.000 if you start in the sea gap but you end 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.560 up in the A gap. As a coach, I'm like, 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.640 you know what, that may happen in the game, right, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:14.560 that may happen in the game, and stuff like that 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.400 does happen in the game, you know, But I tell 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:18.120 him at the end of the day, the final look, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.960 you got to be here, you know, but you can't. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:22.920 But I did, like I did that type of stuff 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.600 in practice, and I kind of sometimes, you know, we'll 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.839 work practice and coach would be mad he didn't get 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.280 the look that he wanted to get. But then you 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.480 get in the game and they doing that in the game. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.559 So it's what did in the Super Bowl. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.959 I shouldn't even said that's ok because now people. 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:39.960 Because there was no car, but there was no I mean, 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.000 he did crazy stuff that made no sense, but it 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:47.119 often worked and then sometimes you could catch him where 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:48.559 just occasionally. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.640 I'm not saying, okay, make this because I'm not saying 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.000 I got anything to do with that. All I'm saying 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.400 is that, you know, I practiced that way, and I 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.160 tried to give the a ride at that time. I 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.840 try to give him a good look for practice, you know. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.520 And I feel like that's what kept me around also 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.040 in the league, because the way I practiced. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.200 So two years in Green Bay, you go to Baltimore, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.720 you finally make the roster, and then twenty twelve twenty 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:15.240 twenty one, everybody called you co cap because you're that 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.640 guy who leads the special teams and you played a 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:22.040 lot on defense. You played multiple positions on defense. At 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.040 the end of twenty twenty one, you decide you're done. 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.760 And at that point, what's going to be next for you? 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.600 What did you do last season as a non player? 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.320 Well, last season I went into scouting. So I did 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.880 scouting and coaching. But I wanted to do scouting because 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:42.320 I wanted to get the whole experience of learning how 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.640 to build a team, how to build a roster. You know, 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.880 what you're looking for into guys, Like what makes scouts 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.400 look at certain guys and like why do certain guys 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.640 fit certain coaches or certain teams? Like you know, so 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:58.960 I really wanted to start from inside out. You know. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.720 So I feel like me being a scout, cause I mean, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.080 been a coach and being a player, I feel like, 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.200 you know certain things that comes with that. But being 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.160 a scout, you gotta be able to actually like scout players. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.760 You gotta be able to know or you not really know, 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.320 but you're you're kind of predicting, right, like, oh, this guy, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.000 he's good at this, he'll be able to do this, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.440 and you know, so I feel like if I learned that, 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:25.280 and I learned the lingo, and I'll be able to talk, 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.040 you know, to players, coaches and scouts. So that's why 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:29.680 I want to do it. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.680 How did you get here? How did you get to 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:32.320 the Titans? 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:37.200 Man? Craig Craig Arkerm. Craig called my phone and when 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.200 when draft meetings? So I'm in Baltimore, I'm in draft 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.480 meetings and Craig calling my phone. So I answer the phone. 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:45.480 How do you know each other? 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:50.280 I don't don't. Now, I've never I don't think I 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:55.400 ever met I met Craig, but yeah, so he called 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:59.600 my phone and and so I answered and he's like, hey, 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:02.200 you know this crad document from Titans. I'm just like 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.680 from the Titans. It's calling me for right and he's like, wow, 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.200 you know, I talked to a couple of guys and 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.720 I want to interview for the Special Team's assistant job. 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.560 So I'm like, man, you playing like who told you? 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.280 Call my phone and playing you know? But nah, man, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:27.400 he was serious and he wouldn't he Craig is very persistent. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.160 He wouldn't take no financial He would be a good 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.520 college man, Craig. Craig will be whatever. Whatever Craig want 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.000 to do. I'm pretty sure he'll be good at it 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.560 because he he don't stop, like you can't tell him no, 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.520 like he just if he if that's what he want 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.680 to do, or that's if it's somebody that he likes 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.880 or something that he's going to go after it. Just 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.920 those phone calls from him and Coach Rabel, you can 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.880 tell like when they want someone like they're gonna do 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:51.920 whatever they gotta do to get it. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.040 You connected with Rabel right away. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:58.080 Yes, sir. Why I just felt like I don't know, 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.640 like we just when he called me, like the first 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.760 time when he like when he called me, it was like, oh, man, 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:07.840 Coach Rabel calling me like again, like I don't look 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.320 at myself how other people may look at me. I'm like, 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.560 why why would Coach Rabel call me? You know? And 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:15.879 but he calls me, and me and him talking on 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.119 the phone, and I'm telling them what's going on with 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.320 what I have going on, and he's just like, man, 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.880 look this is my story. And he kind of gave 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.520 me a quick recap of his story, and I was 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.600 just like, oh man. And then just right away it 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.600 was just like man like Coach Rabel. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.040 Like he made a spot for you. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:37.320 Yeah, he's man, He's. 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.200 That's that's pretty strong. What do you like best about 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:41.160 coaching so far? 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:43.399 Just being out there with the guys, like, you know, 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.400 I feel like and I tell the guys all the time, 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.160 you know, I'm I'm a front line I'm a front 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.840 line soldier, Like I'm a front line guy. Like being 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.720 a scout was good. It was cool, Like being behind 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.000 the desk like that was. But when you when you're 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.080 out there and you going with the guys, and you know, 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.200 I still get that adrenaline rush, Like when I'm out 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.600 there with those guys, you running around, you pushing them, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.640 y'all having those conversations and y'alls making each other better 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.840 cause they're making me better and I'm making them better. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.679 So we're at the same time, we growing together, you know. 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.240 And it's like when we got down to that practice 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.680 field in that meeting room, it's just like we want 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.359 and that's what I That's what I've been used to 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:23.080 my whole life, Like, always a group of guys together 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:25.280 fighting for fighting for one thing. 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:27.080 Even though it's only been a short time, have you 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.560 figured out this is what you wanna do, this is 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:30.840 where you wanna go forward? 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:36.800 Coaching, Yes, sir, Like I've always even like my last 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.480 my last few years, that's what I was doing anyway 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.359 as a player, Like I'll be coaching. I'll be helping 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.920 guys out like and sead of me. I'm still doing 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:46.840 my relse. I'm still doing things, but I'm pulling guys 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:48.840 to the guy side and I'm talking to them, I'm 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.560 helping them, and I'm showing this. I'm showing them that, 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:55.960 you know. So I've always had that coaching mindset or ability. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.560 It's just certain things. And now I'm still learning how 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.919 to be a coach. I'm still learning. I have a 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:04.119 lot to learn. But but yeah, man, I enjoy it 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:04.480 all right. 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.920 So let me wrap up with this one. Who's the 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.320 first player comes into your mind when I say to 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:13.639 number forty one, Anthony Levine Senior, when I say Tennessee Titans, 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.840 who's the first player that comes into your mind? Like 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.320 just boom. 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:20.520 I feel like that's a trick question. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.040 It's not off. I'm interested to know from somebody who 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:29.280 was successful on the outside, was a rival understood with 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.040 the physicality of the series has always I mean, this 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.080 goes back twenty five years. I mean it's been like 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:35.640 this since the Ravens moved to. 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:41.040 Baltimore, right, Okay? Is I can't say one guy? Okay, 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.200 I can't like, I can't say, oh, just the guy 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.760 that pops in my head because it's like, again, I'm 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.920 a I know, I know why I was in the league. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.440