1 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome my favorite murder, the minisod. That's right, this. 2 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Is the minisode we tell you things about yourself that 3 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: you didn't even know you wanted to know. 4 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Are you ready for a little bit of self examination? 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Can we do this finally get you to admit your 6 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: side of things? Go first? Okay, yes, I will go first. 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Thank you. The subject line of this first email is 8 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: rabies at church camp, all your favorite topics, and it 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: starts what's up, hotties? Oh cute, no time to waste. 10 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: Gird your loins for a wild tale. When I was eleven, 11 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: like any good Christian child, I was sent to church camp. However, 12 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: I had developed a reputation for running into troubles. 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 3: Just the year before, troubles troubles multiple Just the year before, 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: I had been sent to the hospital with a back 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: injury after a pool game of playing in the swimming 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: pool of chicken gone wrong where I nearly drowned. 17 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: Holy shit, so true troubles. Yeah. The camp setting was 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: at a state park in the middle of the Tennessee Woods. 19 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: So the next year, when my mother got a phone 20 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: call from a park ranger, Oh so where that injury happened? 21 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: Oh? 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Okay, in the middle of a state park in Tennessee. 23 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Got it. So the next year, when my mother got 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: a phone call from a park ranger stating that I 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: had had an accident in the park pool, it felt 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: like deja vu. My mother firmly stated, you must be mistaken. 27 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: Did you find some old documents or something that accident 28 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: happened a year ago. 29 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were going through some paperwork and I'm like, hey, 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: emergency call immediately. 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me get this cobblob off. Call nine 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: one one. Sorry making fun of their mom, it says. 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: The calm ranger responded to my mother with, no, ma'am, 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: this morning at ten am, your daughter Sarah had an 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: incident in the pool involving an animal attack. What dun duh? Duh? 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: Cut to my eleven year old perspective. I was swimming, 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: I was like, first, it was a perfectly written email. 38 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: I was swimming in the pool, minding my business when 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: I heard someone yell, get it out, get it out. 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: I was curious and swim over to the growing crowd 41 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: surrounding a brown dot squirming in the water. I pushed 42 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: through the crowd and approached this creature. There's your problem 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: right there. Hanging back. Maybe get out of the pool, 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: run the opposite way. Yeah, you don't need to be 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: up in there, you're eleven. I pushed through the crowd 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: and approach this creature. I wasn't wearing my glasses. 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: Oh then why okay, I don't want to yell at 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: a child. 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I just just eleven. So to my naked eyes, 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: it appeared simply to be a bird. In my mind, 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: I was an animal savior to all creatures great and small, 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: and animal savior child creatures great and small is italicized. 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: So into my hands it went. However, as I exited 54 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: the pool, I began to notice the features of this 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: creature were not that of a bird, but rather a 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: curved nose bat. No. The second my brain realized what 57 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: it was, it awoke from its post drowning nap and 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: began to bite me on my thumb. I panicked as 59 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: the pain surged from its teeth digging into me. I 60 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: looked around for help, but none came. 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: Because everyone knows not the touch of bat, but everyone 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: wears their glasses on. 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: In the pool, everyone with good vision stayed in a 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: circle around the bat did not break through. I relate 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: to this person so much, stop breaking through. I looked 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: around for help, but none came. So my solution was 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: to rip it from my flesh and throw it across 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: the concrete pools. 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, which we get it? Yeah? 70 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: The rest is a blur. But a ranger came and 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: sured the bat and took it away. I didn't know 72 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: the procedures of such attacks, but what I did know 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: is that I was never allowed in the park pool again. Wow, 74 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: at age eleven. I don't know if that's her fault. 75 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: It's like, do we have any adults present keeping an 76 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: eye on everything? 77 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: It sounds like I bet you there was a fifteen 78 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: year old up on that lifeguard stand right. It was 79 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: also just watching the kids circle up around a bat. 80 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: The worst part of this story is that my parents 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: got a fateful call from the park labs and were 82 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: told that they had less than seventy two hours to 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: get me to the hospital and get me vaccinated because 84 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: the bat tested positive for rabies. 85 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: That's like a hard core treatment too, right, Oh yeah, 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: very painful. 87 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: Yes, we had to call Vanderbilt Children's Hospital in Nashville, 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: Tennessee to make sure they even had the vaccine to 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: give me. Because it wasn't every day that they had 90 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: to administer Raby's shots. Oh it's real old fashioned. After 91 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: twenty three shots, Oh my god, I was in the 92 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: clear of dying from rabies to day. I always get 93 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: weird looks when people see my vaccine records. So yeah, 94 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: Batman doesn't have shit on me. They said crap, but 95 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: I changed it. Yeah, because it's funny here. Thank you 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: for being here and telling your stories. I'm a private 97 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: duty nurse and my patient and I love to listen 98 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: every morning and it makes our days better. A Hi, Hi, 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: stay sexy and stay out of the church camp pool. 100 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: Sarah, where was Jesus in that moment? 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: Not on that lifeguard stand watching over the lifeguard I 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: wasn't swimming next to you. Who watches the watchers? Okay, 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: that's great. 104 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 2: This is called Broadmoor Hospital celebrity spotting. Hi, Karen and Georgia, 105 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: Greetings from Kent, the Garden of England. 106 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: What news from Kent? 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: I live in the county town Maidstone. You straight out 108 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: of Game of Thrones, which is a bit of a 109 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: shithole but doesn't sound like it, but does have a 110 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: prison where Reggie Cray was incarcerated for a spell, But 111 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: that's that's not the reason I'm writing the craze. The 112 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: craze were the crazy twin like. 113 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: Monsters mobsters or were they twins or woul They just 114 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: rather close in age. 115 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that, and they like terrorized. 116 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: That everybody, but also had a really great nightclub. Watched 117 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Tom Hardy write in legend or Legendary right, he plays 118 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: both parts. 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: Okay, My sister Kate and I are avid Day one 120 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: listeners and have always wished we had a story for you. 121 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: When I heard the Shakespeare at Broadmoor episode episode five 122 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: thirty two, I realized that finally this is my time 123 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: to shine. Kate will be fuming I've beaten her to it. 124 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: If you read this out nice go to hello. We 125 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: love starting sibling foots. We come from a very large 126 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: family with a shall we say, colorful past. When I 127 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: was a kid, I was a keen, nerdy letter writer 128 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: and one of my favorite correspondents was my uncle Jeff. 129 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: But with the G Joff, Geoff Joff. When sober and medicated, Joff. 130 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Was warm, It's not really nice. 131 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: Jeff was warm, kind company, prone to lavish gestures, and 132 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: possessed a dry, dark sense of humor. When he wasn't, 133 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: things were harder for him, and he spent many spells 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: at Her Majesty's pleasure, including some stints at Broadmore. I 135 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: don't know exactly how he came to be there, but 136 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: he was definitely nearer the June and Jennifer end of 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: the spectrum than the Hardcorengans, Rongans Rongins. Anyway, one day, 138 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: when I was about sixteen, I went with another of 139 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: my uncles to visit Jeff there in the central hall 140 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: where I think the Shakespeare performance must have been held. 141 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: It was great to see him, and he was calm, 142 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: genial company. He bought me flowers in a very expensive 143 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: bottle of perfume and says, I don't know how he 144 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: got a hold of it, but I do know that 145 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: I couldn't wait to crow about it to my pals. 146 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:45,679 Speaker 2: The wording of this emails great. 147 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Sorry if giving from within he had a touch traded 148 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: that like cigarettes or something like that. That's really nice, right. 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: The whole thing was a young Murderino's daydream. At the races, 150 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: my other uncle and I were not the only visitors, 151 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: and the hall was pretty crowded. Just over the way 152 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: was Ronnie Cray and visiting associates, looking for all the 153 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: world like a twinkly grandpa with his smart zoot suit 154 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: and teddy boy brill creamed hair. It was nineteen ninety one, 155 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: so pretty anachronistic, but very dapper. 156 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: He still was like getting dressed up. 157 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: And people were still coming to see him. They were 158 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: power And then across the room, staring all caps right 159 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: at me was none other than Peter Sutcliffe aka the 160 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: Yorkshire Ripper. When I was growing up, he was the 161 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: absolute number one fear of young women in the UK. 162 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 2: And I am not joking when I say his dead 163 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: cold stare made my blood run absolutely icy. And the 164 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: kicker his visitor was a beautiful young woman. 165 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: What was she thinking? 166 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: Jeff struggled in the outside world and is long gone now, 167 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: but I like to think he was in the audience 168 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: of the play, and I know he would have found 169 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: it to be bomb. 170 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: For his troubled soul. 171 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: Stay sexy and don't have lock eyes with the serial 172 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: killer Beck. 173 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: Wow, Like that would an experience of like going into 174 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: a place like that where you are there's somebody that 175 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: you're there for a real reason. Yeah, but you know 176 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: where you are and you know what you're looking at. 177 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean, how scary for the people that are there, 178 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: not because they've committed any crimes, but just right need 179 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: some help. Yeah. 180 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: Interesting. Brodmore gets brought up a lot in this podcast. Yeah, 181 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: it does fascinating. Find someone that used to work there. Yeah, 182 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: bring them on or go there to a live show 183 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: my MFM. Brodmore. No, just kidding, just shut it down. 184 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: We just end up getting all of it shut down. 185 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: We are not the cramps. This is no, no, no, okay. 186 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: The subject line of this email is energy vampire teacher 187 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: I went to and it just gets right into it. 188 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: I went to a small high school, maybe one hundred 189 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: and fifty students in the Midwest. On the last day 190 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: of the school year, I confess to one of my 191 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: teachers that I hadn't completed my final project comparing a 192 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: historically important piece of literature to a modern version. So 193 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: he asked me a couple of questions. Did you read 194 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: the books? Yes? Did you learn something? Yes? Okay, then 195 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: you passed high school Anxiety procrastinations somehow won that day amazing. 196 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: Years later, while watching the intro to the first episode 197 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: of a new TV show, I had deposit in disbelief 198 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: when I saw and later learned that the very same teacher, 199 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: Mark Prochs was now the one and only our favorite 200 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: energy vampire, Colin Robinson of What We Do in the 201 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: Shadows he was a teacher. I love that fucking show 202 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: so much, and I love that guy. 203 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: He's so funny, he is so good. All of them 204 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: are so good on that. To watch the TV show 205 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: What We Do in the Shadows, I feel I am 206 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: jealous of you that you get a start over. 207 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: You have seasons and seasons to binge if Matt Berry 208 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: to learn about and then enjoy for the first time. 209 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yes, and he's just still this guy's 210 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: I don't love his name, but that's amazing. 211 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I know, God, And it's very funny that he's 212 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: not a household name, but Colin Robinson I would have 213 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: been like a totally and I thought. 214 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: I would have known his name, and so I'm surprised. 215 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: I don't okay approach. I honestly hope that he doesn't 216 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: remember me now, because my anxiety brain still recalls with 217 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: too much clarity all the ways I embarrassed myself that 218 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: year and probably irked him in one way or another 219 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: in other chance meetings throughout the remainder of my teens. 220 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: I guess he has more important things to think about, 221 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: but the high schooler part of my brain will always 222 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: worry about what people thought of me. Twenty ish years ago, 223 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: I first began listening to my favorite murder right after 224 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: moving into a house in the woods. So sorry I 225 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: missed that little tidbit of advice to stay out of 226 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: the forest. Your voices have continued to keep me company 227 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: throughout the years, and yes, I am still in the forest, 228 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: and I am still knock on wood. Fine, And then 229 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: it just says, ay, ay, yeah, that's so cool. 230 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: He was a teacher. He was probably so over at 231 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: that point. He was like, did you read? 232 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: Did you learn? Then? That's an god bless I have 233 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: an audition, yeah for this show. He was an improv 234 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: guy for a long time. He was an improv guy 235 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: and he did this really amazing thing because my friends 236 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: ran the Found Footage festival. Oh yeah, so they got 237 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: the footage of him as a fake expert. I think 238 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: he was a fake yo yo expert on local news. 239 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: That's kind of where he first got discovered because he 240 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: was so he just ruined the morning news on purpose 241 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: and so realistically amazing. 242 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so amazing, so good. Okay, I have to love 243 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you the name of this one. Okay, Hi, 244 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: ladies and co. 245 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 246 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, love y'all lots, thanks for being bad. Let's get 247 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: into it. My dad was raised and lived in the 248 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: suburbs of Chicago for his entire life. When my dad 249 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: was in his high school days in the seventies, he 250 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: and his friends decided to build and sell large speakers. 251 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: With this quote luke it of business in mind, the 252 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: group started to collect supplies. They needed a particular type 253 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: of foam to fill the speakers with, and they found 254 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: a local junkyard. 255 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: That would sell it to them for cheap. 256 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: The owner said for twenty bucks, the boys could take 257 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: as much foam as they could carry. The owner called 258 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: his brother over and told the brother to show my 259 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: dad and his friends where the foam was located. They 260 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 2: started walking with the brother and the guys all got 261 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: strange vibes from him immediately, and he guess says, yet, uh, well, foam, 262 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: it wasn't nothing to do with foam. 263 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Well, no hillside stranglers, no all, my and this is all, 264 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: it's in Chicago. 265 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: All my dad's friends were avoiding talking to the brother 266 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: because of how creepy. 267 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: He was, but my thinking about what we do in 268 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: the shadows. 269 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: But my dad, being a smart and savvy businessman, knew 270 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: the more he got on this guy's good side, the 271 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: more opportunity they would have in the future to grow 272 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: their speaker business. And that was how easy it was 273 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: to make money back then. You just made a thing 274 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: out of nothing, out of trash, You. 275 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: Made something, and you were a nice man to another man. Yeah, 276 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: and then good luck with everything, right. 277 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: My dad's schmoozing and kindness led to this guy eventually 278 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: softening a bit to my dad, but only my dad. 279 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: After they collected all the phone they could carry, my 280 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: dad thanked this man and said they would be back 281 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: again for more. After building one to do speakers and 282 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: being immediately bored of the project, the guys quit their 283 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: speaker of building business and therefore never returned to the junkyard. 284 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: Years later, my dad saw a news report about a 285 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: man suspected of domestic terrorism and murder. He recognizes the 286 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: man being fingered, but can't quite place him, and it 287 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: bothers him for months. Months maybe even close to a 288 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: year later, my dad realizes that the man was the 289 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: one who worked in the junkyard. The man was none 290 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: other than the unibomber ted Kaczynski. 291 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I thought he was he targeted professors. 292 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: But he was he himself, wasn't he? 293 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: Yes, he went to Harvard, Remember they did that. They 294 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: think that they did all these LSD experiments on and oh, 295 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: ok theme all. I remember his brother's the one who 296 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: turned him in. 297 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: Turned him in. Yeah, but I just never realized he 298 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: had like a junkyard phase. Same. No, that deep cut. 299 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: The factory yard they picked up the phone from was 300 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: owned by Kazinski's brother. He and his wife would later 301 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: turn Kazinsky into the authorities. This is just one of 302 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: the many stories my dad shared with me over the years. 303 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: My father was always into true crime and mysteries, later 304 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: going on to become a lawyer and pass his love 305 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: from mysteries on to me. My dad became a well 306 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: respected lawyer, working for the State's Attorney's Office for many years, 307 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: being on staff while cases like John Wayne Gacy and 308 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: other notorious Chicagoland area murders were being tried and sentenced. 309 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: So of course, he had many crazy stories and sometimes 310 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: insider info on Chicago land crimes. 311 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: Can we have that please? Uh no, actually you legally cannot, 312 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: all right. 313 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: He ended his career at our Country's courthouse, where he 314 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: worked for over a decade. He passed away in August 315 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen after a long battle with skin cancer. 316 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: Shortly after, one of the halls in our County's courthouse 317 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: was named after him in honor of his devoted heart 318 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: to seeing liberty and justice for all. He left a 319 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: forever impact on our county, our family, and the lives 320 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: of so many. I am proud to be part of 321 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: his legacy. Karen you sharing your Karen you sharing your 322 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: journey of losing your mother to a disease where you 323 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: don't recognize your family member has touched me and made 324 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: my journey of being a caretaker for a sick parent 325 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: feel a little less isolating. Thank you both for making 326 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: me laugh on tough days and being an escape from 327 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: reality when I needed one while taking care of him. 328 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: For the last few years of his life. 329 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: Stay sexy, don't buy foam from serial killers, and most importantly, 330 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: get your yearly check up at your dermatologist. 331 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: Katie God, Katie, so many lessons to be learned from 332 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: this one, so many lessons, but also what an incredible 333 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: thing to have a dad that worked so well, didn't 334 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: just work hard, didn't just like yeah, devote himself for 335 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: whatever his reasons are, but like the point where they're like, oh, 336 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: we're going to give him a wing. We're gonna name 337 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: a wing after him. 338 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: And Ted Kaczynski, who famously hated everyone, Oh yeah, fucking 339 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: like you, only you you kissed. 340 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: Up to somebody that was unkiss uppable too. 341 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: Or like you were just like you treated to them 342 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: like a human being enough that they were like, this 343 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: guy's pretty cool. Yeah, wild, Thank you, Katie. 344 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Good job, Katie. All right, here's my last one, so 345 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: in honor of Father's Day, talking about Champion Fathers right coming, 346 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: which is coming up. The subject line of this the 347 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: American version I couldn't read to you, but here's the 348 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: British version. The subject line is the ultimate cunt. Now 349 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: with do with that? Editor is what you will? Okay, 350 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: So it says hey to all the pets and people 351 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: at my favorite murder. Firstly, I'd like to say how 352 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: much your podcast has helped with some of the hardest 353 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: times in my life. I now listen while making ashes jewelry, 354 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: and then in parentheses it says, yep, like the cremations 355 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: of people and pets. Oh so you can have a 356 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: little permanent I want that. Yeah, you just look them. 357 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: Really, I didn't realize you were morbid as fuck. 358 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: Well, I was just like, Elvis has been gone for 359 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: too long, So you can't have just like ashes. Oh 360 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: do you really? Of course? Oh you didn't bury him? 361 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: Where am I gonna? I don't live anywhere long enough 362 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: to like up aforest lawn. Look, I'm not going to 363 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: fight with you on Mike about this, but you should 364 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: have buried him in a human He's on a shelf 365 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: that looks lovely. Well, now you can make it. We've 366 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: got a friend in the business. Okay. Sorry. My dad 367 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: was always doing something dodgy for quick cash. One of 368 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: his many great get rich quick schemes involved with my 369 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: brother and myself. He had decided that selling cigarettes he 370 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: had purchased in France, it would be his new money 371 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: making idea. Oh Dad, so this isn't just your average 372 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: I think that we've gotten a lot of trash Dad 373 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: stories where it's like he forgot to pick us up 374 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: from skating or whatever. And this is like, I think 375 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: this is where might go into a new level of 376 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: British trash. It's actually illegal at this point. Yard we're 377 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: getting into a legal territory. We're getting creative with how 378 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: we're going to be trashy okay. So it says the 379 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: only problem being that you could only bring a few 380 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: cartons without having to pay tax coming back to the UK. 381 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: That's when the baguette trip started. What would take us 382 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: both over on the car ferry to France, fill the 383 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: back of the car fully with creates of cigarettes, and 384 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: then place a blanket on top and tell me and 385 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: my brother to pretend to be asleep. When the customs 386 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: person would come and look in the car, my dad 387 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: would innocently say that his two young children were asleep 388 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: in the back and they would let us pass without 389 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: any search. And then in parentheses that says this was 390 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: the early nineties. Oh my god, this happened regularly for 391 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: a few years. Oh my god. What did me and 392 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: my brother get out of this trip? You guessed it? 393 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: A fresh baguette or I mean, come on, Unortho, get 394 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: some of that French butter. You're all set hell yeah. 395 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: I wonder what my teachers must have thought when they 396 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: asked what we did most weekends, and I answered with 397 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: we went to get the baguettes. It wasn't all that bad, 398 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: as on one of the bagette trips he surprised us 399 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: with a trip to Disneyland Paris. It was probably our 400 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: cut of the money from the cigarettes the operation we 401 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: had been crucial to carrying out. Not sure how or 402 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: why the trip stopped. He probably found his next big 403 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: idea and moved on. When my siblings and I laugh 404 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: about this stuff that happened in our childhood around normal folks, 405 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: we usually get the wide eyed horror you might need 406 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: therapy looks. But I wouldn't change my wild childhood for anything. 407 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: I mean the kind of dad that will cook up 408 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: a plan like that. 409 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: It's like innocent in a way, yes, And I'm dying 410 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: to know how much money he made. 411 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: Because he's just trying to get around like a tax 412 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: It's not he is not stealing money from other people now. 413 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: He's not putting the kids in harm's way in any way. 414 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: No, not really. 415 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: He's giving them bread, and he's giving them the best 416 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: bread in the world. 417 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: So you can argue that he's like he cares more 418 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: than other parents because he's delivering fresh French. Have you 419 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: ever had a French bag at? Fuck? 420 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 421 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean my dad was a chain smoking, flat cap wearing, 422 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: cunt word loving man, British British cut. He passed away 423 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: three weeks ago from cancer, and listening to all his 424 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: friends and family tell the most unhinged stories about him 425 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: in his life has made me cry, laugh and be 426 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: so thankful for the colorful childhood I had. If you 427 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: need any more wild stories about trash dads, I could 428 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: probably write a thousand emails, like the time he turned 429 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: off someone's water and then cemented over the tap, oh 430 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: my god. Or I need to know who deserved that? 431 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: What did they do to deserve that? Or his fortieth 432 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: birthday where he wore a penis hat with forty on it. 433 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: Just tiny pants all day photo please? Oh, the list 434 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: is wild. His last wish, which he gave me the 435 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: pleasure of executing, was to have a flower arrangement with 436 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: his favorite word on it. Try organizing that with a 437 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: funeral director. Oh my god, ha ha ha. No. I 438 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: have an attached photo for you. Please feel free to share, 439 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: stay sexy and use your children to smuggle cigarettes or 440 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: maybe don't. Here's the picture. 441 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: It says it's there's like a beautiful flower arrangement in 442 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 2: the back of our hearse with the coffin and a 443 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: little red ribbon signs says cunt and that. 444 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: But do you see what that flower arrangement is? It's 445 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: a cigarette. Oh my god, it's very subtle. I just 446 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: thought it was like kind of weird. But no, no 447 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: cigarette with the word cigarette with the work cunt. 448 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: That's how do you? 449 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: That's how to go out? And I think if I'm 450 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: not mistaken, I could be. But that's on top of 451 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: the coffin that's in the back of the hearse. Yeah, 452 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: that's the coffin right there. Yeah, so that's all. Oh 453 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: my god, let's put a decoration on top. We'll put 454 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: it on social media. That's beautiful. Wow. Well, our condolences 455 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: to you about losing your father, especially so recently. I 456 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: love that they used this email to basically process some 457 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: memories because please please send more. 458 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 2: The trash dad stories or trash parent stories, trust, trash 459 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: sibling stories, A great a good anti one islcome yes. 460 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: My favorite murder at Gmail. What a way to celebrate 461 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: father's day. Yeah, is like a great dad that really 462 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: lived and lived and lived and then included his kids. 463 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: I was going to say that he could have gone 464 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: on his own and been gone all weekend, and no, 465 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: he was like, I need to spend time with my kids, 466 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: but I also need to make that money. 467 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: And I need to not get caught right, and I 468 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 1: love bread, and I can put those things all together. 469 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: Let's mix it in a big salad of legal childhood activity. 470 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 2: Okay, I'll do one more trash or treasure Dad for 471 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: Father's Day. Great in honor of Father's Day, Hey, besties, 472 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: my parents divorced just before my second birthday, leaving my 473 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: dad to navigate life with two little girls. 474 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: Every other weekend. 475 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: Think birthday dinners at Red Lobster with all my dad's 476 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: bachelor friends and backyard bondfuyers with those same guys, where 477 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 2: I got to play bartender and stay up late until 478 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: the dirty jokes started. 479 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: Yeah tell yeah, and that basically the slightly drunk dad's like, 480 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: oh wait, you guys got to get a bed. I 481 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: don't tell your mother. I don't, you can't. 482 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: My dad was also very frugal and taught me and 483 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: my sister to always be on the lookout for spare 484 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 2: change on the ground. I was excellent at this, spotting 485 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: a penny from feet away, oftentimes collecting several coins at 486 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: once before my sister even had the chance to look 487 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: at the ground. She was more of a head in 488 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 2: the clouds kind of girl. But not me. I had 489 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: my eyes on high alert for those precious bits of 490 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: spare change. I had been doing this for as long 491 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 2: as I can remember, and pride myself on being pretty 492 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: good at finding things. While visiting my dad recently, I 493 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: was reminiscing about my childhood finds and saying that now 494 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 2: when I find change, I give it to my daughter 495 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 2: for her piggy bank. My dad smiled and said that's nice, 496 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: but he's surprised I'm still finding change on the ground. 497 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: I assumed he meant because we've become a cashless society, 498 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: but no, he goes on to say that he used 499 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: to drop coins for us to find outside his car 500 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: before getting us out of our seats. Part of me 501 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: was in disbelief that my finding skills were based on 502 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: a lie, but a bigger part of. 503 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: Me has sound so much joy in this. 504 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: It's so cute, I know, and you used to still 505 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: all a change from your dad's Yeah, yeah. 506 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: Changes a big part of like childhood with your dad? 507 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: Totally my dad my dad and may have been a 508 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: typical nineties trash dad at times, but he also tried 509 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: so hard to make every moment of our limited time 510 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: with him special. 511 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: So maybe he is a treasured. 512 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: Dad after all he is is stay sexy and drop 513 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: change for your kids to find. You never know what 514 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 2: could turn into a core memory. Sally Forth, Sarah she her, thanks, Sarah. 515 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: If I had, if I had a switch to blip, 516 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: I'd be crying right now and I can feel it there, 517 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: but it's not happening. We got it. 518 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: Let's give it a couple of months, okay. I mean 519 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: that's beautiful. And also it truly is like the weirdest 520 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: surprise I didn't see coming. Yeah, I mean neither. He's 521 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: just like distraction. 522 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: Oh, you're so good at finding changed. I'm so good 523 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: at finding Like what a beautiful thing to good Yeah, 524 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: to bestow on your child? 525 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: I love, that's like, how are you still finding change? 526 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: I I threw that change? Are you never? I never 527 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: told you? And now it's like someone with an eagle eye. 528 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: It's like I paid my mortgage with that change, Dad, 529 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: Thank you well. Happy Father's Day every to everybody who 530 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: celebrates right dads and grabs that's try, and moms who 531 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: act like dads that's right, and dads who do it 532 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: all and moms who do most of the things too 533 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: as well. And let's not forget the moms on Father's Day, 534 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: right please, Oh and stay sexy and don't get murdered. Goodbye, Elvis, 535 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: Do you want a cookie? 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