1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie, 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: do you even go to movie theaters anymore? Every once 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: in a while I'll show up. How do you How 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: do you cope with the sounds and not the sounds 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: of the movie, obviously, but the sounds of your your 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: fellow movie goers consuming all sorts of snack items and 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: opening cellophone containers and and then and slurping on drinks 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: and stirring around ice at the bottom of a container. 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: So you just want to lose it? That's um, that's 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: actually me. Ah, why do you have to have so 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: many snacks? Because it's expensive at the movie theater. It's 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: much more economical just to bring your own. Oh is 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: that so you're not even buying You're sneaking it in. 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm sneaking it in. And of course, for some reason, 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: when you sneak it in, it's much louder. Have you 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: noticed this or maybe no, because you're playing by the 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: rules something by the rules, I'm not just sneaking stuff in. Well, 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: for some people it um, it not only just bothers them, 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: but it could possibly incite them to violence. This sound, 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, I I get upset by these noises, 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: but I don't. Actually I'm not actually driven mad by them. Um, 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: so you're not the person who threw the popcorn buck 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: it at me? No, that was not me, thank you. 26 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: I threw the gop stoppers yeah, lamb. Yeah, but I mean, 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: come on, it was a death scene and you're and 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: you were you were, you were eating I know, but 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: when i'm you know, when things get tense, that's when 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: I really go for the snacks. See, that's just it. 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so it's not to put off the 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: topic too much, but yeah, it's like it'll be like 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: some sort of like really serious thing happening on the screen. 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: It's one thing. It's a comedy or a kid's film. 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: It's like, I get it. You know, it's a good time. 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: Let's eat some popcorn. But eating popcorn while you're watching 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: people die and bloody death on the screen, it's weird. 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: It really isn't. Um. I commonly will eat dinner watching 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: True Blood, and I would like to hear from other 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: people who are watching intense scenes and turned to food. 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not the only one out there. Okay, 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: I guess I mean okay, I have eaten during True 43 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Blood as well, but but still I'm not I'm not 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: thinking like, Okay, here comes another sex scene pestilasagna. Oh no, 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm talking about sex scene. Oh just the 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: violent Yeah, I'm not talking about like I'm it's not 47 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: Seinfeld here and I like need to eat a sub 48 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: and watch watch a sex scene. Anyway, we should really 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: get back to the matter at hand, which is the sounds. 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: The subtlest sounds that we hear, the crunching of leaves 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: under our feet. That Harold fall, which I think is 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: a beautiful sound, could drive some people really bananas, and 53 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: in fact it does just the mere crunching of leaves. Yes, 54 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: the sound, or maybe even just someone with sniffles or 55 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: even breathing. Yeah right, Uh. This is something called miss aphonia, 56 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: and it means dislike of sound or hatred of sound. Yeah, 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: and now I feel like we all have levels of 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: of this outside of the movie theater. Even I find 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: that gum chewing is affects me on at least a 60 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: small level, to where if someone else is chewing gum. 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: It kind of annoys me. Yeah, but if I'm chewing 62 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: gum too, then I don't notice. Well, this is interesting 63 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: that you say that, because Misoponia UK is a support 64 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: group and they say that there's something called the continuum theory, 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: and the suggestion is that everyone has an intolerance to 66 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: sounds to varying degrees in various environments due to any 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: number of factors, which is kind of what you're talking, 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Like you're trying to watch a movie, You're trying to 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: focus on something, or like sometimes it's like I wish 70 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: I was chewing gum. Why are you chewing? Yeah, your 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: your mind is distracted um. And according to this theory theory, 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: people presenting with clinical misophonia simply have a stronger reaction 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: to various sounds than the general population. But they say 74 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: that this is not necessarily true because people with miss 75 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: aphonia are they have emergence of a very clear set 76 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: of symptoms that are different from just saying you know, 77 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: that's distracting or annoying, right, It's it's generally the kind 78 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: of thing that they don't have control over because I 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: can't you know, It's like like me getting upset over 80 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: someone having gum. It kind of depends on my mood 81 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: whether it's actually gonna irritate me or not. And it's 82 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: one of those things that if I stop and think 83 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: about it, I can be like, stop being a jerk, 84 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, don't get bit out of shape over somebody 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 1: chewing gum. That's ridiculous. But the people who are actually 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: suffering from this this condition, they don't have a really 87 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: any choice in the matter. It's an involutary thing, and 88 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: they end up having to like structure their lives around it, realizing, 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, I can't actually go out and have dinner 90 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: with people because or or maybe it's like I can't 91 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: stand crunching, so only soup, or people who are like 92 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: I can't stand soup slurping, so only nachos or I mean, 93 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: there have been plenty of cases documented in which people 94 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: were saying, I can't eat in the same room with 95 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: as my spouse because he's driving me nuts with his chewing. 96 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, I mean, this actually affects the 97 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: relationships jobs um. It's been called a Cinderella diagnosis because 98 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: it's a medical condition that tracks not so much professional interest. 99 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of awareness or research funding. But 100 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: it's definitely one of those things that has come to 101 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: people's attention because of the Internet, because so many people 102 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: have found each other and said, actually suffer from this, 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: and it's something that's impairing my life. Yeah, And a 104 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: lot of these a lot of people were suffering from mesophonia. Um, 105 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: we're misdiagnosed to the kind as frequently misdiagnosed as as 106 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: different phobic disorders, of obsessive compulsive disorders, bipolar manic disorders, 107 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: anxiety disorders, um, and and so a lot of people 108 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: ended up going through a number of treatments that weren't 109 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: actually addressing the problem. Yeah, and we'll talk a little 110 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: bit about why we think it's happening, um, But I 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: think it's really interesting to talk a little bit more 112 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: about some of these triggers. Yeah, Like I mean, we 113 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: can all get I think, like the gum chewing or 114 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: the or the noisy eating kind of thing to a 115 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: certain extent, But then it's other other things too, like 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: the explosive p in some what words, you know, like 117 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: like you can't stand to hear somebody use P words 118 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: perfect perfect, like that would drive someone just just to 119 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: apocalyptic apocalyptic, The apocalyptic platypus perfected. It's a persona you know, 120 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: like that kind of sentence would just drive people off 121 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: the wall. It would in s sounds too, yeah, super um. 122 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: And even laugh tracks, well those are annoying. Yeah, I'll 123 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: give you that. Um. And then of course you talked 124 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: about the breathing thing, coughing, sniffling, plastic bag rustling, water pouring, 125 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: really water pouring, water pouring, chewing, kissing. I could see 126 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: the kissing thing because if that got really you know, smacky, 127 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: that could be, especially if you're not like the kiss 128 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: kisser would using as a cat noise like you know, 129 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: like you know, to get the cat. That's the noise 130 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: we use with our cat. So I'm not judging. Yeah, 131 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: um yeah, any sort of subtle noise really is the 132 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: problem here. I read it. Even footsteps, yes, which if 133 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: you're in a museum. I was, My wife and I 134 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: were at a friend went to the High Museum here 135 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: in Atlanta recently, and somebody like, I understand, you know, 136 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: you're going out to a museum. You want to sometimes 137 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: you want to wear fancy footwear. I get it that, 138 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, test the footwear before you go to a 139 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: quiet museum because somebody had like the loudest clumping. I 140 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: don't know if they're like wooden shoes or something, but 141 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: but it was just like thonkthunkthunk. You know, everybody's trying 142 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: to look at art. Yes, squeaky shoes in the office. 143 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: That's that's always a problem. I will say that's that's 144 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: not a mesophonia thing. But I'm pretty sure that everybody 145 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: has their own sort of like office because my shoes, 146 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: I think kind of squeak. Yeah, mine are definitely squeaking, 147 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: which is here because they're nice shoes, and you know 148 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: it's not I'm not wearing jellies or anything. Uh really, 149 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: those aren't jellies. No, they're not. They're just really purple. Okay, yeah, well, 150 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're fetching um. But I mean there's 151 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: all sorts of auditory things that of course we're talking 152 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: about more subtle things, but we all understand this on 153 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: some level. If you've ever had an office mate that 154 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: was clipping their nails in the office in the morning 155 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: when it was quiet, then you can maybe understand what 156 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: it would be like for someone when with miss aphonia 157 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: to to sort of erupt in their emotions. And this 158 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: is from audiologist Dr Marcia Johnson. She says what they 159 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: experience is kind of a Mount St. Helen's eruption of 160 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: emotions and feelings associated with these sounds. So it's not 161 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: just like man that's annoying, it's it's actually on a 162 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: scale of like zero to ten. They've they've got a 163 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: scale of of someone actually acting on this. And we'll 164 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this in a bit. Now. 165 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: There are a couple of other related kind of sound 166 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: irritation um phenomenons that we've we've also encountered out. One 167 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: is called hyperacusis, which is a health condition characterized by 168 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: over sensitivity to certain frequency ranges of sound. And then 169 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: there's another one that's particularly interesting called autophonia. And this, uh, 170 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: this involves and is characterized by an over loud hearing 171 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: of your own voice. Yeah, and this is actually part 172 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: of mesophonia, right. The audiophonia is the intolerance of the 173 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: sound of one's own voice, which has got to be awful, right. Yeah, 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: there was an account I was reading took place back 175 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: in ve You had this British born French horn player, 176 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: so living in Germany thirty five years old, played the 177 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: French horn, which I have played the French horn, by 178 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: the way, not not very well, but I I played it. 179 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: And anyway, so he's living in Germany and one day 180 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: he's practicing his French horn and something feels difference, like 181 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: he can hear the noise inside his skull. He said 182 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: that it was like he was playing the horn inside 183 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: his brain and it'd just be that was gonna go away, 184 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: you know. He's like, all right, well, this is you know, 185 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 1: taking a nap, and I'll get over it. But it 186 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: just continued and continue, and he got stronger and stronger. 187 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: He was having involuntary eye movements caused by sound. At 188 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: one point he was waking up in the night because 189 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: he heard mice. He thought he heard mice moving around. 190 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: He was hearing the sound of his his eyelids, his 191 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: eyes moving his eyelid so and eventually he had to 192 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: stop playing the French horn. But they were able to really, 193 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, settle Down really diagnosed this and they realized 194 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: it had to do with the superior canal. At this condition, 195 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: known as a superior canal, this instants basically revolve around 196 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: the the canals that are filled with fluid in the 197 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: human ear. Uh, they're kind of like the little vials 198 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: of fluid that you see in a level, you know, 199 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 1: they kind of is the fluid moves that lets the 200 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: brain know that you're moving, and those were disrupted. It's 201 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: a defect in the inner deear caused by the thinning 202 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: of the bone separates the superior canal from the brain. 203 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: So in this guy's case, there's only this thin memorane 204 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: between this fluid and his brain, so it was like 205 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: it was basically touching his brain and transmitting all the 206 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: sounds from his body right into his head. Okay, So 207 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: in this particular case of misophonia, which is sort of 208 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: this autophonia, yea subside of it um, which is interesting 209 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: because that that's so specific, but for the general mesophonia, 210 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: which by the way, one of the biggest triggers. By 211 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: the way, they were able to plug the hole and 212 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: the guy was able to play happy ending Okay, good 213 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: good um, and it's not you know, it's not me. 214 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: It's okay yeah, yeah, you said, thirty five year old 215 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm at all the clues here, British living in German. Yeah, okay, 216 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: it's not you for sure. In any case, they're not 217 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: necessarily m hip to what exactly is going on in 218 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: general misophonia. There is a neuroscientist by the name of A. R. Mueller, 219 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: and he's at the University of Texas at Dallas, and 220 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: he believes the condition is hardwired like right or left handedness, 221 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: and probably uh, not an auditory disorder, but a physiological 222 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: abnormality that resides in the brain structure is activated by 223 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: process sound. So that's sort of a gobbledygook answer for 224 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: We're not quite sure yet, but it's certainly an area 225 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: that they keep looking at. And I keep thinking the 226 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: s Ramachandrens has got to get on this right. Uh. 227 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: This is the guy who, um we talked about in Doublegangers, 228 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: and I just I feel like I need to send 229 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: him an emails like, come on, let us know what's 230 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: going on here. Um. But as you said, though, it 231 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: has been mistaken for other things, and um, just in 232 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: a moment here we're going to talk about the severity 233 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: of reactions to this, not just annoyances we've talked about, 234 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: but but what happens um inside people inside their heads 235 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: and how they out. So we'll be right back right 236 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: after this. This podcast is brought to you by Intel, 237 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: the sponsors of Tomorrow and the Discovery Channel. At Intel, 238 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: we believe curiosity is the spark which drives innovation. Join 239 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: us at curiosity dot com and explore the answers to 240 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: life's questions. And we're back, so let's talk about it. 241 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: What happens? Okay? The reactions can include revulsion, rage, sadness, panic, 242 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: attacks in decision, loss of cognition, physical itching or crawling, 243 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: sensations urged to flee or fight. And this is really 244 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: important to these last bits because it really is engaging 245 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: to flight or fight response. So it's like they're hearing 246 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: their their friends slurp their suit and they're just overwhelmed 247 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: by the feeling that they need to either punch them 248 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: in the face or run out of the restaurant. Yeah. Yeah, 249 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: And that's why they've got this scale, this misophonia action scales. 250 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: You're at a ten. All these different sort of things 251 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: that they do to try to alleviate themselves from this discomfort, 252 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: and that can even lead to something called ecolega, which 253 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: is mimicking the offensive sound. Oh yeah. This this is 254 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: what I found really interesting because I mean, on one level, 255 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: this is a situation where if you if you let 256 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: the condition or lead I you know, not to I 257 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: don't want to imply that people are completely introl with 258 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: the situation, but in this condition, but on one level, 259 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: you're wanting to to distill it. You want to head 260 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: it off because you don't want to punch your friend 261 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: in the face or otherwise act like a jerk. Right, um, 262 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: But some of the coping mechanisms could be misinterpreted. Is 263 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: acting like a jerk because because the because the you're 264 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: basically like mimicking an annoying sound. So it's like if 265 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: someone were chewing their gum, you would I'm assuming you 266 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: would have to start going like making a fake gum 267 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: chewing you You would actually get up in someone's face. 268 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: This is the thing, right if your friend is let's 269 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: say that they're chewing in their gun, I would hope 270 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: they are a close understanding friend. Right you would get 271 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: in their faces, like going back on them, and right 272 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: you would you would hope that there would be that 273 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: understanding of, oh, you just need to act this out 274 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: in order to release your feelings. Yeah, I would hope 275 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: That's not good practice for a blind date. But yeah, 276 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: but of course this has been confused to with autism, right, 277 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: because this looks a little bit like autism, although it 278 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: has not been studied in terms of finding a link 279 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: between autism and misophonia. But you can understand how if 280 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: you didn't have a context for this, you might be 281 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: a little bit surprised as the person who is triggering 282 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: this reaction and this other person. Another weird aspect of 283 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: this is that some people will actually become sexually aroused 284 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: when they hear a trigger, and that is because they're 285 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: over activation of hormonal circuits during the rage panic stage 286 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: are sort of dovetailing with the adrenaline and then nora adrenaline, 287 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: and of course that's involved with the flight or fight, 288 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: and that's that's being sort of confused, and so a 289 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: person can be sort of I guess you would say 290 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: incidentally aroused by this. I don't know how common this is, Yeah, 291 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting to think about because it it 292 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: really takes a soup slurping scenario and puts it into 293 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: an even stranger place. Well, and I was just thinking 294 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: even something like the shuffling of papers, yeah, you know, well, 295 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know shuffling of papers that it's 296 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: kind of sexy, but it could be it could be 297 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: accidentally sexy. You know, we haven't always thought about that 298 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: with the shuffling of papers. But if you've got mesophonia. 299 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: But what all this is pointing to is that it 300 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: really is very uncomfortable for the person because this is 301 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: an unwanted, an unwanted thing. It's not you know, it's 302 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: easy to make to potentially make jokes here, but but 303 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: we and we we're not really this is this is 304 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,119 Speaker 1: actually something that if you are um, if you're experiencing 305 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: this has got to be awful, right because it's just 306 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: sort of another outed level of anxiety and the day 307 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: to day push it, just like I can't stand the 308 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: sound of that they're slurping their soup and great now 309 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm aroused, wonderful, and then you have to eat the 310 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: restaurant exactly. So now you know why that person got 311 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: up right, Yeah it wasn't you, but it was you. Um, 312 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: So how do you treat this? You know? This is 313 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: the question? Um, And this is something that they're still 314 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: trying to uncover. Audiologists actually the physicians who practice this 315 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: sort of medicine, audiological medicine, and they've tried some autogenic 316 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: training like relax and relaxation techniques like self hypnosis, meditation, biofeedback. 317 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: But there's not really a magic bullet here. Yeah, it 318 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: seems like a lot of the regiments of treatment that 319 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I mentioned on the website, and there are a number 320 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: of things brought together, a lot of them sort of 321 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: trained on looking at yourself and being cognitive of what's 322 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: going on and being able to stop, which I mean 323 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: to a certain extent, if you don't suffer from this 324 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: condition and you get irritated it's the sound of somebody 325 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: chewing gum, that's a fine treatment there, like stop and 326 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: think about what you're doing. But in this situation that 327 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: the goal is to all right, well, acknowledge that this 328 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: condition is present, you have to confer your feelings, confront 329 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: the feelings and uh and and that's just one of 330 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: the steps you can take. Yeah, Apparently just avoiding them 331 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm trying to pretend like it doesn't exist, would actually 332 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: exacerbate the condition. I tell you, that's a fascinating topic. 333 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: And I couldn't help but think possibly because we're about 334 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: to get into Halloween shortly and talking about recording some 335 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: Halloween themed episodes, I was wondering, do you think Edgar 336 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Allan Posts suffered from this because well there's the beating heart. Yeah, 337 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: where the guy keeps hearing the sound of a heart 338 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: beating under the floorboards until of course he actually killed it, dude. 339 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: But but eventually he just loses it and he's like, 340 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: all right, tear up the boards. There's a heart beating 341 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: under there, and I can't stand it anymore, taking me 342 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 1: to prison. But then there's the bells to remember with, 343 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, keeping time time time, and a sort of 344 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: runic rhyme to the throbbing of the bells of the bells, bells, bells, 345 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: the stopping of the bells, keeping time time time. You know. 346 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of like you were about to real Well, 347 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: it's interesting. There's time time time Folksinger US sixties of 348 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: Folksinger phil Oaks the base of song on the bells. 349 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sing it, but people can YouTube that 350 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: if they here. Okay, okay, musical, and I think we 351 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: need a mix on it, That's what I'm hearing. I 352 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: think there's there's some potential here. I don't know. Maybe 353 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: Pope was trying to work this up. Maybe you have 354 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: miss aphonia would be interesting to see. I did I 355 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: just did a quick search, so I don't know if 356 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: anyone has actually looked into it, but I would be 357 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: it would be interesting too. It would be interesting if 358 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: they were the case. Uh you know, it's like those 359 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: are the only those are just two examples. So I'm 360 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: not making a strong case for the for for Edgar 361 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: and Poe having this condition. But anyway, I couldn't help 362 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: but think about it as we were researching it. And 363 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: I think it is interesting too that it is. It's 364 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: it's very own thing. It's not just someone that has 365 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: the sound sensitivity. It's just it's manifesting itself in a 366 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: physiological way. Yeah. So, um, by all means, if you 367 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: find yourself experiencing this, uh in any way, shape or form, 368 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: consider going to a doctor about it if it seems 369 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: like it's a little stronger than just you get irritated 370 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: at things. Yeah, and also check out miss aphonia uk 371 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: dot org. It is a great resources. Yeah, it really 372 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: can help people just sort of better understand, um, how 373 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: difficult this is to live with. Yeah, and there are 374 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: absolutely no mini songs playing in the background of the website, 375 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: which I thought was a very smart choice. Yeah. Uh so, hey, 376 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: we have a little bit in the way of listener 377 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: mail here. Um. First of all, uh, and speaking of mixes, 378 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: I had a listener on the Facebook page was at 379 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned a decision fatigue that I listened 380 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: to a number of music and mixed podcasts and they 381 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: are wondering what I listened to, and I listened to 382 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: way too many, and that I'm way more than I 383 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: should and way too many to list here. But I 384 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: can just mention a couple of like really good ones. 385 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: Every one called Parasity Days, which is indeed out of Paris, France, 386 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: and each week they'll put up a new mix. It 387 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: really runs the gambit, which ips like funk and soul 388 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: and uh, a lot of world sounds. So if you're 389 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: if you're looking for more like kind of a low 390 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: fi or a funky kind of vibe, that is as 391 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: a great podcast, uh and well worth checking out. And 392 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: they've been doing it for several years, so they have 393 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: a big catalog, you know, all of it free of course. UH. 394 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: And then the other podcasts I listened to, there's one 395 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: called L A L A which is spelled A L 396 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: L e Z, so it's a L L eazy uh 397 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: dash A L l Eazy and they do a podcast 398 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: each week that I really enjoy because it's kind of 399 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: a um it varies too. I mean there are different 400 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: guys doing it each week for the most part, but 401 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: there'll be some nice mix of sort of new, uh 402 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, cutting edge sounds with some cool retro stuff. 403 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: So I would recommend that. And so when you say 404 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: that this came out of a comment about decision fatigue. 405 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: This was the whole thing about how sometimes we seed 406 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: our decisions to other people because we're trying to clamp 407 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: down our mental energy. And so if we've got something vetted, 408 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: so there you go, you've got some vetted resources. Yeah, exactly. 409 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: Instead of think things like, oh what am I gonna 410 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: listen to for the next two hours, I can just go, well, 411 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Pristiges generally does me right. L A l A generally 412 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: does me right. So they have a new mix. I'm 413 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: gonna listen to that and I'm not gonna think about it. 414 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: So so that was the context of that that. Um, 415 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: let's see other listener feedback that we received. We've received 416 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: a lot of cool stuff about dreams, a lot of 417 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: a lot of it is a lot longer than we 418 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: have time to talk of would We had one person 419 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: um a listenermill name of Corey who wrote in with 420 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: experiences with like UFOs and a demon camp and shadow people. 421 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: That was pretty crazy and uh, what was one of 422 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: what was one of the other ones. We had a 423 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: bunch of really cool ones. Yeah, yeah, way more than 424 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: we we have have time to mention satellite, but I 425 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: was really impressed with everyone's dream live scary that they were. Yeah, 426 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: and we got a we also got an email, a 427 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: real short one from Jim and he was talking about 428 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: cubed Earth, yeah, which we recently did, and we talked 429 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: about Picasso and cubism and sort of made a joke 430 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: there and he said, well, what have you know Picasso 431 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: lived on the cute Earth, he would have invented spherism. Whoa, 432 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy. Yeah, uh and I think so. We 433 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: also had a couple of listeners are right in about Minecraft, 434 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: which I've never played, so I don't have a lot 435 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: of experience with this. But it's like a kind of 436 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: a pixelized world like mind stuff. And then I mean, 437 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: I think everybody's more less familiar with the if not 438 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: is the cube. Yeah, it's like a cute looking things 439 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: somebody sitting a picture like a cube planet them in mindcraft, 440 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: and that was pretty pretty interesting. So, um, if you 441 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: guys have stuff you want to share with us, you 442 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: can find us on Facebook and Twitter. We'll blow the 443 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: Mind on both of those. We'd love to hear from you, 444 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: your experiences, your experiences with irritating sounds, and uh even 445 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: if you just have some cool studies or news items 446 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: you want to share with us and the other listeners, 447 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: let's know about it, and you can also send us 448 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: your thoughts to via email at blow the Mind at 449 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. Be sure to check out 450 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: our new video podcast, Stuff from the Future. Join how 451 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: Stuff Work staff as we explore the most promising and 452 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: perplexing possibilities of tomorrow.