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Speaker 1: and play for the socks. Oh, they definitely talked about this.

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Speaker 1: Don't hear you, Scott, can't hear you, Scott, way to go.

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Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm here, he's here.

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Speaker 2: That was my own doing. If you missed yesterday's episode,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to play the music out a little longer.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I wasn't talking. I just wanted to play

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Speaker 2: the music out. If you missed yesterday's episode, it's one

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Speaker 2: double click on the Scott Bors conversation at some point

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Speaker 2: that was great. And you know, later on I listened

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Speaker 2: to our resident GM, Jim Bowden, talking about bores and

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Speaker 2: the corporations work this off season and get out of here, Mike,

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Speaker 2: and how they take five percent flat fee of a

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Speaker 2: think that they've totaled so far this offseason in revenue?

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you can negotiate that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Can negotiate that weight. But I'm pretty sure they're just

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Speaker 2: a standard. Hey, we feel like we're going to dominate.

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Speaker 2: This is what it is like. I have a I

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Speaker 1: The way I've heard it. The way I've heard it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't go well usually David Robertson is one

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Speaker 1: Good Boris has a big Boris has a big company. Though,

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Speaker 2: And fifty employees. I think I think it's one hundred

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, plus, he runs a training program, he

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Speaker 2: Turner still going strong, one year, six million bucks. He

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Speaker 2: Indiana loves Chicago baseball, little cubs, a lot of Cubs,

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? What do you they have

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Speaker 2: Iowa does Iowa Cubs? I got confused for a moment. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I corrected myself. Oh my gosh, you guys are so harsh.

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Speaker 2: We talked for two hours every day. Am I allowed

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Speaker 2: to say in their bear Scott, thank you Aaron.

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Speaker 1: I mean you've already got you already got two today.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna keep track of everyone's mess ups. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I have to ask this, Scott, why do you keep

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Speaker 1: saying Justin Turners from Indiana, He's from LA He's from

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a ton of pop anymore. I mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Seattle loved him. They loved him when he

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Speaker 2: the deadline has passed. Flatty Junior might be playing his

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Speaker 2: don't show him the young core and the prospect rankings

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Speaker 1: Well, this thing for me never seemed like it was

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Speaker 1: What do they do now? Because the Blue Jays have

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Speaker 1: Because the fans in Toronto, first of all, they packed

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Speaker 1: The ball is in Vladdie's court for sure. I mean

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Speaker 2: went past their value. They went past their value for him.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't align on a number that shared risk. I'm offended.

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Speaker 2: If I'm Gladdie and I get a hold of those

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Speaker 2: his head. Obviously it changed a little bit, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: And then the president throws that out there, Oh, we

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Speaker 2: Screw you. I want to be part of a winner.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to pay a premium now that would

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Speaker 2: another team will offer him more money and they'll say,

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Speaker 2: The only chance the Blue Jays have is if they

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Speaker 1: I can't. I just can't see it. I can't. I

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Speaker 1: over our value what you think he's worth. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: just say you're not going to sign him. That is

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Speaker 1: Shapiro basically saying we've given up fans. He's too greedy.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to say. But fans also know

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Speaker 1: they see Wan so Doo, they see show Hey sign

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Speaker 1: Lad's next in line. Guess what he's going to get

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Speaker 1: Guess what you might have to do, go above and

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Speaker 2: There was ego involved here on those quotes. To me,

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Speaker 2: we really gave it a good guy, we couldn't come

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Speaker 2: to terms. We love him to death. We're going to

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Speaker 2: try it every single turn that we can to talk

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Speaker 2: him into stay. Period. Thanks everyone, How hard did you

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Speaker 2: try it? As hard as we could. All of that,

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Speaker 1: His value is unmeasured. To Vladdie, it's unmeasured. Like you

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Speaker 1: can't say that. You can't say that about a player

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Speaker 1: They just lost him. I'm telling you they lost him.

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Speaker 1: He got he got personal. It got personal. When you

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Speaker 1: if you just would have said what Scott said, it

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now you're gonna get charged in ego tax for

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Speaker 2: what you said after the season, So have fun with that.

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Speaker 2: The Cubs have an a ball team in South Bend, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Scott. So there's a team in Fort Wayne, Indiana too.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you? What is their point?

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say anything else. I'm just saying that.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Adam out of Vino wants to go to the

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Speaker 2: Red Sox minor league deal invite to camp and we

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Speaker 3: He answers everything, they go down, I know, but him

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Speaker 1: It's just that's Tristan casts out of the minor league fields,

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Speaker 4: And Campbell like like, get some guys. Yes, everybody should

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Speaker 4: All the buddies coming up from the minor league, come on,

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Speaker 4: let's go. Tristan Costas said, nope, taking the boys out.

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Speaker 2: Peterboro and Jelly's you know, I always admire transparency. They're

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Speaker 2: saying it with their chest crats. The answer is no longer.

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Speaker 2: Whatever is best to help this team win a World

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Speaker 2: Series title again. It's no, I want my money at first,

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Speaker 2: he wants his money at third. Really good way to

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Speaker 1: This is why John Henry never wanted to spend money.

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Speaker 1: This is too much hassle. We could have just continued.

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Speaker 1: Now we have the team arguing. We could have just

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Speaker 1: I put all this money out for Bregman. We got problems.

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Speaker 1: It's like a It's like a Drake and Kendrick Lamar

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Speaker 2: Giraldo Perdomo Diamondback for the long term four year contract

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Speaker 2: extension runs through twenty twenty nine. It starts in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. There is a club option for twenty thirty

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Speaker 2: over five seasons. There's incentives, quite a few there must

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Speaker 2: going to be spent with the Diamondbacks. Aja. This is

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Speaker 2: of the little things the bats in the average range.

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Speaker 2: Good glove, you know, sack bunts, just like all of

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Speaker 2: the situational hitting that you look for in a role player.

431
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Speaker 2: Do you like this? I know the money seems large,

432
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Speaker 2: but it's not really given the late ARB numbers and

433
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Speaker 2: then the free agent years that they're going to get,

434
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Speaker 2: which should be him in his prime.

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Speaker 1: So I like this. I freaking love this for both.

436
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Speaker 1: I love it for Perdomo and I love it for

437
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Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks. I lock up a guy that Tory Lavello

438
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Speaker 1: clearly clearly trusts and cares, and Perdomo gets set for

439
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: life and he locks up where he's going to be

440
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Speaker 1: unless they train him. I don't know if there's no

441
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Speaker 1: trade claus in there, but still I love this for

442
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Speaker 1: both of them. I'm just mad that Tory didn't tell

443
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Speaker 1: us this is coming down the pipeline when he was

444
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Speaker 1: on a couple days ago. True, this is I think

445
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Speaker 1: this is better than just an above average glove. This

446
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: is one of the better gloves at a premium position.

447
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Speaker 1: You talk about a big league shortstop, and he kind

448
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Speaker 1: of fits into that role that Tory Lavella uses him.

449
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Speaker 1: He doesn't swing outside of the zone. I would want

450
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Speaker 1: him because he has good back to ball skills. I

451
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Speaker 1: would love to see maybe a little more swing because

452
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have a lot of slug that he'd be

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Speaker 1: able to put the ball in play. He tries to

454
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Speaker 1: kind of work walks, which is good. There's value there.

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Speaker 1: But I think as he ages, he's only twenty five

456
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Speaker 1: right now. As he ages, I think that hit tool

457
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Speaker 1: will continue to progress. And he had some big up

458
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Speaker 1: bats in twenty three when they went to the World

459
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Speaker 1: Series for them, and a lot of them revolved around

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Speaker 1: going deeper into counts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to look up. I think he's much

462
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Speaker 2: better against right handed pitching in his career. I'm also

463
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Speaker 2: just trying to project, and I know he's a switch hitter.

464
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Speaker 2: I'm also trying to project going forward what this team

465
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Speaker 2: looks like, because they're top prospect according to Baseball America

466
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Speaker 2: is still Jordan Lawler, who's also very young. But aj

467
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Speaker 2: we file this in the good problem category.

468
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Speaker 1: Yes, we file this in the hey we got too

469
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Speaker 1: many good players problem, which every team would like to have.

470
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Speaker 1: So I have no problem with him making this move.

471
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Speaker 1: It's a good move for Perdomo. It's a good move

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Speaker 1: for the Diamondbacks. They locked up a guy that they're

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Speaker 1: counting on, and they know what they're going to have

474
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Speaker 1: that short stuff, possibly for the next four years, five

475
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Speaker 1: years or six years, whatever they want to keep him

476
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Speaker 1: as long as they do. They know what they got.

477
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Speaker 1: And again, I like this move. And if Lawler is

478
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Speaker 1: a big leaguer like I think he is, like the

479
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Speaker 1: organization thinks he is, he'll be in the big leagues.

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Speaker 1: This is nothing, nothing that is not problems this deal.

481
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Speaker 1: This isn't the one Poto deal right where they were

482
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Speaker 1: Oh no, exactly, We're not going to be able to

483
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Speaker 1: pay anybody now because we paid it like this. This

484
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Speaker 1: is not that deal. This is a deal where, hey,

485
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Speaker 1: we have flexibility. And I believe Pernomo could probably move

486
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Speaker 1: around and play different positions if they ask them to too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lawler probably can as well. I mean, you know,

488
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: right now they have Gino Suarez, but I believe he's

489
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Speaker 2: a free agent after this season, see how things go. Also,

490
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Speaker 2: you know he's getting up there. I think this is

491
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Speaker 2: his age thirty three or thirty four season. So best

492
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Speaker 2: problem in the world is Lawler finds health find success

493
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Speaker 2: can handle third. Maybe long term one of them can

494
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Speaker 2: handle third on the left side. Obviously got could tell

495
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Speaker 2: on the right side, you know, with nailor for now.

496
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Speaker 2: So this is a good team. I really like Arizona.

497
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Speaker 2: We're gonna do power rankings later in the week. I

498
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Speaker 2: feel like Arizona might rank higher than some people think

499
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Speaker 2: they should be. But I really like the Diamondbacks heading

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Speaker 2: into twenty twenty five. They won eighty nine games last

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Speaker 2: year and they had the top offense in baseball. I

502
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Speaker 2: know they lost Jock Peterson, who was a big part

503
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Speaker 2: of the lineup last year, but man aj the lineup

504
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 2: looks pretty damn good. Corbyn Carrol wasn't good for four

505
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Speaker 2: out of the six months last year, and then was

506
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Speaker 2: normal Corbyn Carrol for the last two Catel Marte was

507
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Speaker 2: an MVP candidate. I think we all like Naylor better

508
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Speaker 2: than some of the front office analytics nerds do around baseball.

509
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Speaker 2: Lordis Gariel really good bat? I mean they've got outfield

510
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Speaker 2: depth Gino towards the bottom of the lineup. I still

511
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Speaker 2: think Gabriel Moreno has another gear too as a hitter.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Listen, you ask Blue Jays people in off the record,

514
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Speaker 1: they'll say one of the biggest mistakes they made was

515
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Speaker 1: getting rid of Morino and Guriel in that trade. All listen,

516
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Speaker 1: I know they got our show and he's but he's

517
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Speaker 1: been injured. But those two guys alone are are good.

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Speaker 1: And then you throw in a healthy Carol that plays

519
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Speaker 1: the way he plays. Naylor I think gets huge hits

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00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: for you. Perdomo is a good player. I think this

521
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Speaker 1: is a team. Now, are they going to beat the Dodgers. No,

522
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Speaker 1: but I think they can scare the heck out of

523
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the rest of the National League and

524
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Speaker 1: make a run like they did a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Because when you go Burns, Gallon, Kelly Rodriguez, healthy, Montgomery,

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Speaker 1: fuck fault, we don't even talk about him. I mean,

527
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty good And then they're they're bullpen.

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00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: They're stacking up nicely the way Tory Levello, and they've

529
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Speaker 1: developed some of their younger guys in the roles. They

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Speaker 1: have a chance to be a really good team this

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Speaker 1: year because of their depth. But not like it's not

532
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Speaker 1: just one thing. Some teams, it's like, oh, they really

533
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Speaker 1: packed together a lot of death. Oh they have like

534
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: a good one two punch. This team is really good.

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Speaker 1: Tory Levellos has used the guys on this roster really well.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough for Naylor

537
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Speaker 1: to do what Christian Walker did as an overall value.

538
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: I get that, but Tory Leavello does a really good

539
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Speaker 1: job of finding that value, making sure Peven Smith stays

540
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Speaker 1: in the lineup when he gets hot, like you like,

541
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Speaker 1: oh Peven Smith, you know what is he like? There

542
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: were some stres which is where he was carrying this

543
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: team last year, and he never asked anybody to do

544
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: more than they need to. And I think the biggest

545
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Speaker 1: thing I don't know about like winning or losing the

546
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: trade with the Gabriel Moreno trade in the Blue Jays,

547
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: But I think winning and losing the opportunity to make

548
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year came down to gabrielle Moreno not

549
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: being their everyday catcher. I know the value of having

550
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Speaker 1: an everyday catcher. I see what he brought to that team.

551
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Whether people say, oh, it wasn't him making decisions, it

552
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: was Brent Strom in the playoff race. Screw that the

553
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: catcher makes a huge difference. And it's nothing against the

554
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: guys who they were playing, because they did well. They

555
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: still won eighty nine games. But to me, it's having

556
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: that guy out there who controls the staff and is

557
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: going to catch one hundred and thirty games he's out there.

558
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: This team is a lot for the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree with you. Yeah. I

560
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: mean they didn't have the catcher depth and he's really good.

561
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Speaker 2: I think one of the more underrated players in the sport.

562
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: He was really important to their World Series run. Two

563
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 2: bet MGM futures. Jose Ramirez home run total at twenty

564
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: nine and a half crats, you're up first, man.

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00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: I have to go over why why am I missing? Right?

566
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Speaker 1: He was one away from forty. I mean, I know

567
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 1: he was chasing the forty, so there's probably I need it.

568
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: A lot of these individual awards are tough for me,

569
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Speaker 1: or individual milestones are tough for me to go with.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing him. I'm seeing him minimum thirty four, like

571
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: I feel like you can you can write it in.

572
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna be out there every day. When he slides

573
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, his batting average goes down

574
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Speaker 1: because he can hit a lot of pitches his homers.

575
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Speaker 1: I feel like he's a thirty four to thirty seven

576
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Speaker 1: guy with the possibility I'm hitting forty.

577
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Speaker 2: Can't go over on everyone, guys.

578
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Speaker 1: I get over. We haven't. I just don't understand how

579
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Speaker 1: he hit thirty nine last year and this is twenty

580
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Speaker 1: nine and a half. I mean, I mean, come on,

581
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: like this seems like now I know he doesn't have

582
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Speaker 1: Naylor hitting behind him, but he hasn't had a lot

583
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Speaker 1: of protection his whole career, so it's not like he

584
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Speaker 1: needs the protection. I think. I think this this one

585
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: to me. I mean, he's looking at his home runs

586
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: the last few years. He's gone now twenty nine, thirty six,

587
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: twenty four and twenty three, and then thirty nine last year,

588
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Speaker 1: thirty nine and eighteen twenty nine. I mean, I guess

589
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: that's why it's closer. But I still think this is

590
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: an easy over. I think Jose's figured it out, figured

591
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Speaker 1: out the power.

592
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Speaker 2: Hundred.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, he's not going to get the thirty homers

594
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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: He's had some seasons. I mean, like you mentioned a

596
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, he played a full season and

597
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 2: had a great year, but finished with twenty four twenty nine,

598
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: the year before the thirty nine is great. I think

599
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: missing Nailor is going to be a big factor here.

600
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: They did not replace that threat. And I always get

601
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Speaker 2: back to the question that sometimes doesn't need an answer

602
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Speaker 2: because it's not like he's had help for most of

603
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Speaker 2: his career. But I'm like, does he have enough help?

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Speaker 2: And why pitch to him? So I'll take the under.

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Speaker 2: Oh for the people trying to do more of this, obviously,

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Speaker 2: a few at a time for you so you can

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Speaker 2: are too difficult, but I'll just go with early parts

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Speaker 2: of it. So no Detroit wins it all. Kt the

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Speaker 2: White Sox win more than sixty games, Omar Judge hits

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Speaker 2: sixty five home runs? Go ahead, Aja, what do you

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Speaker 2: have for those three?

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Speaker 1: First of all, ktick trying to kiss up to me

624
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Speaker 1: because they're not going to win more in sixty games,

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Speaker 1: So good try Judge, ah Man, I don't love anything

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Speaker 1: what's most likely.

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Speaker 2: Don't love, but they're bold both they have to be

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Speaker 2: like whoa that is going out there on a limb.

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Speaker 1: None of them seemed likely me. Detroit's not winning it

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Speaker 1: all this year. I'm sorry. I just don't think they

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Speaker 1: have enough offense. The White Socks aren't going to win

632
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Speaker 1: more in sixty games. And Aaron Judges and hitting sixty

633
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Speaker 1: five homers because you don't have anybody hitting behind him.

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00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: Stan has tennis elbow, both elbows, so he's got no

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Speaker 1: behind him, and they had Soto hitting in front of

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Speaker 1: him so there was someone on base. I just I

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Speaker 1: don't think any of these are likely at all. I

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Speaker 1: think the bottom one, Maddie boy, I know I'm jumping

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Speaker 1: ahead and we're not reading all of them. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I won't I won't jump.

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Speaker 2: I'll read the rest. Then I'll read the rest so

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Speaker 2: that you can you can mess with him here, all right.

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Speaker 2: Pat said, Mets win the World Series. B W said

644
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Speaker 2: Boston whoops it and wins it all. Hay said the

645
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Speaker 2: JS go deep in the playoffs. Maddie says the Mariners

646
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: are going to go to their first World Series.

647
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Speaker 1: Crats Maddie Boy. Maddie Boy's got the best Bowl prediction

648
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Speaker 1: that I think can totally happen. Why not? Why not?

649
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: We've been saying it. Why not jump on? Why not

650
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: jump on the train? Why not? Holy it will be

651
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: an MVP. Kevin Sitzer can raise another trophy too, much

652
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: to AJ's chagrin. And they get this team to start,

653
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, Qure tight hit the ball opposite field instead

654
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: of trying to only drive out drive the ball out

655
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: of the ballpark, and the pitching staff stays unprecedentedly healthy

656
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: for two years in a row. They win the World

657
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 1: Series because nobody can hit this starting rotation.

658
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Speaker 2: Is he being sarcastic or serious?

659
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Speaker 1: Yes, he's being sarcastic. Kevin sites or hates Homers. That's

660
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: a perfect place for him in Seattle, far far away.

661
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: But let me say this, out of all these there's

662
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Speaker 1: two that stand out. The Mets can win the World Series.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't that bold, Pat, But BJ one to one

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Speaker 1: oh seven Boston woops ass and wins it all. They

665
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Speaker 1: actually have a chance if they know. There's a lot

666
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: of ifs and butts, but we know where those get you.

667
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, if Crochet is healthy and Viuelers

668
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: healthy and the rest of their lineup can do what

669
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Speaker 1: they're supposed to do, they actually can get into the

670
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Speaker 1: postseason and make a run. Because I honestly think if

671
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: Breslo has a chance and John Henry has a chance,

672
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: if they think they're alive for it, they'll go get

673
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: reinforcements if they needed, so I think those two are

674
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Speaker 1: the most possible. Although Pat, I'm sorry that's not a

675
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: bold prediction. And I think those those reinforcements aren't going

676
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: to be reinforcements like we've seen at trade deadlines, because

677
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: they still have they still have a lot of this.

678
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: You know. Let's say let's say Frank, let's say the

679
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: Astros are out of it. Let's say the Padres are

680
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: out of it. They have top prospects. They have a

681
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: deep farm system to be able to go get a

682
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: Dylan Cees, to be able to go get a Fraan Borvaldez,

683
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: somebody that will bolster that rotation. Not saying the guys

684
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: that they have aren't good, just saying at some point

685
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: you need better starting pitching, and those would be upgrades.

686
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Speaker 2: You guys have. Any others. We kind of did some

687
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 2: the other day. Do you remember what you guys did?

688
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: I said Trott was gonna have a big year and

689
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: and be an MVP candidate. I actually think that's a

690
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: bold prediction.

691
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, I said, going to win the division. That

692
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: was my bold prediction. Yeah, like I just told you

693
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Speaker 1: on the room that was mine.

694
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: Kratz said, yeah, krat said every team was going to

695
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Speaker 2: finish in third place.

696
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Speaker 1: Are you being sarcastic? Scott? I said, the Orioles, we're

697
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: gonna win the American League.

698
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: Oh see, that's interesting. I've gotten into it with some

699
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 2: O's fans so much so that I've been getting calls

700
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: to go on radio shows and podcasts to explain my

701
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: thought process on the O's and why I don't think

702
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: they're the best team ever, even though some people in

703
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore do But anyway, if you have other bold predictions,

704
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: we will take them all. Right, here's a bold prediction,

705
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: Alex in the chat who separates each letter with a space,

706
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: Angels will end their layoff drought. That is bold.

707
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: Scott is so happy about that. That is Scott. I

708
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: can't believe Scott didn't make that his Bowl prediction. As

709
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: much as you love the Angel, Scott, who do you

710
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: love more? Scott? The Angels or the Pirates or Kendall Graveman?

711
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: Can I have them all?

712
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: Wait? What did Kendall Graveman ever do to you? You? Yeah,

713
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: you were. You were saying how much Kendall Graveman was

714
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: Scott's favorite player, and then we talked about them.

715
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: Is your favorite player's favorite player? By the way, if

716
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: you're watching us right now and you're giggling, we have

717
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: seventy eight thousand subscribers. We would love more. Half of

718
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 2: you that watch. Don't subscribe, it's super weird. Just press

719
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: the button. Thank you. Anyway, I want to get rid

720
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: of the misconception. Though I don't hate the Angels, I

721
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: actually want the Angels to do well. It's a big market.

722
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: They actually do spend on their team. They don't necessarily

723
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: do it wisely, No, the Pirates are. They pissed me

724
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: off way way more than the Angels do. It's not

725
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: even in the same stratosphere. In fact, we didn't have

726
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: time for this. But I'm saying now. Ben Cherrington, when

727
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: asked the other day if the Pirates were on the

728
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: verge of making a big move before the start of

729
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: spring training games, quote, We're not on the doorstep of anything.

730
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: And obviously Pirates fans had a field day with that,

731
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: and they were like, you can just post that for

732
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 2: a ten year.

733
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: Span tenure only ten years made the playoff.

734
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Speaker 2: From twenty thirteen to twenty.

735
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: Fifteen, that's yeah, Okay, they didn't add.

736
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: To that team, but they made the playoffs.

737
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: They added, They got Justin Morneau, they picked up A. J. Burnett,

738
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Speaker 1: they picked up Russell Martin, they picked up they added,

739
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: they added huge, huge long term extensions on guys.

740
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and years.

741
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: That's the guys that got them there. But they didn't

742
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: continue on that. They stopped. Yeah, and they got rid

743
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: of Cutch he.

744
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: But cutches back. But von Nova is the last guy

745
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: to get a free agent multi year deal, right, Wasn't

746
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: that what you said? The other day.

747
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: Ten years since they've given out a multi year free

748
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: agent deal, yvonno December twenty sixteen, because they ain't doing

749
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: it this year. So it's going to have been ten

750
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: years and I might not get to December, but it's

751
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: going to at least be this offseason before they get

752
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: to another multi year deal.

753
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Speaker 2: We got some time here, so let's dig in Turf

754
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: Wars Day two, Rafael Devers versus the Red Sox. First,

755
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: let's hear from legendary Red Sox designated hitter David Ortiz. Quote.

756
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: You are not talking about just another ballplayer. You're talking

757
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: about Rafael Devers, the current David Ortes type player the

758
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: Red Sox have. Listen to me, that's the team's best player.

759
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Bregman might have better defensive numbers, I'll give you that,

760
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: but you are not talking about a Mickey Mouse type

761
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: of player. You are talking about Rafael Devers. And see

762
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: if Poppy wants to come back and play a position.

763
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: All right, Alex kra of course, is going to receive

764
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: questions about this every day for the rest of eternity.

765
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Speaker 2: So he told he said, Devers told him and Craig Breslow,

766
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Speaker 2: who runs the front office. Quote I'm a third baseman.

767
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Speaker 2: We knew that, and cor said he knew that they

768
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Speaker 2: he was going to say that, and they weren't surprised.

769
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: He said, they still have a great relationship. And then

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Speaker 2: I'll give you the quote, and then we can comment

771
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: here from Cora the longer quote, because they're going to

772
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: continue to have conversations and it's too early to know

773
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: right now what positions deversgmen are going to play, so

774
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: they're not giving up just yet. And here's the quote.

775
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Speaker 2: Decisions are going to be made here about roster construction

776
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Speaker 2: and what we're going to do in the future. We're

777
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: gonna make sure we have the best team possible out there.

778
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: He has a lot of pride. We know that he

779
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: feels like he's a third baseman. He's going to work

780
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: out as a third baseman, and then we're going to

781
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Speaker 2: make decisions accordingly. But I think here it's not about

782
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: Bragman or Devers or Cora. It's about the Red Sox.

783
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Speaker 2: Whatever decision we make is for the benefit of the team.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hmm. On opening day, Raffi

785
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Speaker 1: Devers will be playing third base. You want a bold

786
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Speaker 1: prediction there.

787
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Speaker 2: It is why aren't they just saying that? Then why

788
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 2: are they drawing a line?

789
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Speaker 1: Because they both put there, They've already put it. They've

790
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: already they can't back up. They can't back up now

791
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: from what they already said. So they've already put They've

792
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: already made it uncomfortable, and now they have to Now

793
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Speaker 1: they have to stand to it. But I just I mean,

794
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Speaker 1: when David Ortiz says Raffie Devers is a third baseman,

795
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Speaker 1: then you know what that does to the Red Sox

796
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: nation and the massholes. It makes some get behind Raffi

797
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Devers playing third base. So I mean, we all have

798
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Speaker 1: our opinions, but I just bold prediction. Raffi Devers on

799
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Speaker 1: opening day now, depending on who they face, is going

800
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Speaker 1: to be the third base something. We're not really talking

801
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: about a lot because it's about Raffie Devers. Alex Bragman

802
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: signed here. What was told to him when he signed here? Here,

803
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: here's a here's a brinch truck of cash, come and

804
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: play for the socks. Oh, they definitely talked about this, like, hey,

805
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: how do you think how do you think Devers is

806
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: going to feel about this? Like Bragman's Bragman's a confident

807
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: superstar player with two World Series rings. Devers has a

808
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: ring like you're sitting there going wait a minute. They

809
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: told me this when I came to the org. Okay,

810
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: first day of ground balls. I guess I'm going to third.

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Speaker 1: Where's Raffi? Raffi didn't come out for ground balls? Do

812
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: you want me to take him at second? Wait? Cameras

813
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: are out here? Should I not? It's awkward. It's awkward

814
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: when you come into a new clubhouse like he went

815
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: Devors to be your buddy.

816
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: How does this not get handled beforehand? And then after yesterday?

817
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: How does it not get handled?

818
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: Because it's never going to go away because it's Boston,

819
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: don't you get It's got because once it became a

820
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: public thing and you had to have a press conference

821
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 1: with Raffi Devers and what he says just like this, no, no, right, yeah,

822
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: he said no, and he said no, and then they

823
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: asked him again and he said no. I'm a third baseman, right,

824
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: So either it wasn't communicated to him or he's just

825
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: as flat out saying no. No. What happens on the road,

826
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but at least to start the year,

827
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Raffie Devers will play third.

828
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Speaker 2: So just to be clear, Core is going to have

829
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Speaker 2: to say in a few weeks from now, yeah, it's

830
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Speaker 2: all good. He's our third baseman. Tail between legs for

831
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Speaker 2: going after him.

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Speaker 1: Not tail between legs right now chorus text and big

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Speaker 1: Poppy going okays that though, Man, why do you have

834
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: to like we're trying to work this out ourselves. Poppy,

835
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: just cileencia a little bit of silence, just for a

836
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Speaker 1: little bit, please, Like you're the I mean, he's the Don,

837
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: He's the Red Sox Don. If he says something the

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00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: massholes are definitely out.

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Speaker 2: There, I would just be like, hey, Poppy, you remember

840
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: the position that you played that led us to all

841
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: that success. Maybe you should give him a little nudge, nudge,

842
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: hint hint, help us out for a year because it

843
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: makes it part.

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Speaker 1: David wanted no part trust me. I came up with David.

845
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Speaker 1: I played with David in the minor leagues. Trust me.

846
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Speaker 1: He wanted no part of me. He wanted to hit,

847
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Speaker 1: and he went to the Hall of Fame as a hitter.

848
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Speaker 1: And exactly what he should have done is what he did.

849
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Speaker 1: He was We used to have game every day when

850
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I was in the Florida State League with him. We played.

851
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: I'd take grounders at first and I was awful, but

852
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: I would beat him. We better Coke and I would

853
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: beat him most of the time. So I mean, they'll

854
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: trust me that I couldn't feel the drum in my life.

855
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: And he knew it. He knew it. I can hit

856
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: Island out above average last year for range, arm strength

857
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 2: was about middle of the pack.

858
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 1: What I think about, and I'm not saying that they're

859
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: the same player at all. I'm talking about young players

860
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: who have a really good hit tool. Moved to DH

861
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: at a young age. Delman Young, Delman Young and Raffie

862
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: Devers are not the same player. Please hear that I'm saying.

863
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: Delman Young told me as soon as he got moved

864
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: to d H. He said it was so much harder

865
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: for him to go back out into the field. And

866
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: because he said, the daily routine is just completely different,

867
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: and you get into this routine of being a DH

868
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: whether you're injured or you're not injured, and you have

869
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: to like embrace that role that it really has a

870
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: tough time getting back onto the field consistently. What I

871
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: say yesterday, Once you go DH, you don't go back. Man,

872
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: it's hard. You don't go back. You can't because you

873
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: get into that and especially when you do it every day.

874
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: And that's why Scott's like, it's all ry for one

875
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: year and go back next year. Once you get into

876
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: that role, it is so hard to go back. It

877
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: was so hard as a catcher. I was used to

878
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: being out there every day to go DH because it's

879
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: such a different mindset. You're not involved. You're like, man,

880
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm pinch hitting four times this game. What do I

881
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: do for these two innings when I'm not on deck?

882
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: And do you try to watch a game but you

883
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: really don't feel like you're in the game because you're

884
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: not playing defense. It is just hard, really really hard

885
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: when you become a full time DH to go back

886
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: to the field. It's easier to go the other way.

887
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: Salvey did it last year. Didn't you do a lot

888
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: of DH in first base until vinp came back half

889
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: way through the year and then he went back to catching.

890
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: Salvey's been playing every single day he has been. It's

891
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: worked for him. It's worked for him absolutely. But what

892
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: worked for Salvey is the fact that he's not catching

893
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty games a year and seeing his

894
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: second half numbers go for like a consecutive like eight years,

895
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: he saw the benefit of dhing, so he embraced that role.

896
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: Salvado Perez is also probably thirty pounds heavier than Raffie

897
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: Devers in the sense that like his body handles things

898
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: differently than Raffie Devers, who's playing more athletic position at

899
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: third base. You're asking a guy to quit an athletic position,

900
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: not as athletic as shortstop, but still an athletic position,

901
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: and then say, come on back, we're gonna go back

902
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: to it. I don't see it. I don't see it

903
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: for the long term success of the Red Sox. Okay, no, No,

904
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: the difference is here. The Royals have for me behind

905
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: the plate, and he's a stud defensively. So Salvi's like

906
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: I've done my I've done my stuff as a catcher, right,

907
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: Raffi's still like I'm only twenty six, twenty seven years old,

908
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: I still got stuff to do. Salvi's like I'm in

909
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: the mid thirties. Poppy, I'm a oh the woman a

910
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: dh oh. I still get my money. Oh yeah, I

911
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: catch every once in a while. Oh, and that guy

912
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: behind me he's better than me, probably defensively. Okay, I

913
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: see it. I'll play first, I'll play, I'll play DH.

914
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna be watching every single ground ball come

915
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 2: in his way. Spring training, regular season. The Red Sox

916
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: made their decision early on here, though otherwise they would

917
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 2: have just been like, yeah, he's third base, ragman second.

918
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: They could always flip flop later. They're already battling him,

919
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: which I think is interesting. Go ahead, craps, show your

920
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: hat on the way out, because he missed it yesterday

921
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: and people were and.

922
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: That's making a ton of ton of free agent moves.

923
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: The Minnesota Twins. Yeah, Twins, it's not my it's not

924
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: The Marlins can be confusing with them.

925
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: And with the free agent moves. Part to see it tomorrow,

926
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 2: right right, right,