WEBVTT - EP 343: Dommes, Subs & Skat Play (Ft. Steph Domme)

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what decision we're about to make. Horrible decision?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the chacolate? Okay, don't tell nobody this DC and d.

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<v Speaker 1>M V area, which y'all might be our favorite place

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<v Speaker 1>to perform.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them, y'all, I'm not gonna I love it,

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<v Speaker 2>and y'all we are coming back to you and the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest venue of the tour. That's right, we are doing

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<v Speaker 2>the Warner Theater November the ninth in d C.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to see the couple, Yes, we want to

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<v Speaker 3>see the lady keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to the fellas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the day then yep, everything everybody ever won. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so make sure you head on over to hour hive

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<v Speaker 2>dot com select DC again.

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<v Speaker 3>That's November ninth at the Warner Theater Friday night. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're gonna be talking the fuck up. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be litt as ship. I might do a little U

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<v Speaker 3>stream moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows. So that's my favorite thing to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what that is. U Street is. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where she had a U stream moment. I was like, now,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, go to horror Hive dot com and please get

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<v Speaker 2>your tickets now. Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Horriblair.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Yones. That sounds cute, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your girl, Mandy b the celibate one, the non

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<v Speaker 2>ho aka formerly known as Peg the Stallion.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also a liar. Wow, Wow, it's called you ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got a to not be white, Bibbs.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually nothing is white over here, okay except actually someone

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor, but we'll get to that point. Weezy

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, and oh look, I said, Weezy, introduce yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, this is Wheezy. You said, what good? This is Weezy.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheetah emo ho cheetah ho ho ho, the biggest ho

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<v Speaker 2>every hoe you could motherfucking think of.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, right here next to me, horrific you. And we

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<v Speaker 1>are joined by one and a half. Could you count

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<v Speaker 1>the guests? If the guests, we don't. We don't count him.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't count him. I know that's right, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>We are joined today by step Dom, who is a

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<v Speaker 2>dominatrix here in New York and fine as hell. So

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<v Speaker 2>if y'all are not watching on the YouTube, you might

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<v Speaker 2>want to go on over for this one because she

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<v Speaker 2>brought an accessory with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you came you came real ready, mind you.

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<v Speaker 2>When I invited step On, she was like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>want me to bring up Okay, you call him a

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<v Speaker 2>sub or a slave.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a so it doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes I feel like the word slave on these

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<v Speaker 3>platforms be getting flagged, like if you get too crazy

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<v Speaker 3>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I usually would be like my sub, but in person,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, good.

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<v Speaker 4>I do like slave when I'm really wanting to feel empowered, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because something about it feels a little more dirty, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, because we can have submissive habits, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it's too do soli or sometimes like slave to me

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<v Speaker 4>is like granted when I'm thinking that, I'm thinking you're

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<v Speaker 4>doing like really everything discerted me. Sometimes when I say sub,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like there's like, okay, maybe you just do

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<v Speaker 4>a few.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But you have those like you have like slaves

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<v Speaker 3>that they're like they'll do whatever, and then you have

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<v Speaker 3>subs that of course they have their limits like anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Else, so they still even even the slaves. Sometimes what's

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<v Speaker 2>your subs name? Slaves love?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Phoenix, Phoenix, Phoenix. How do you meet Phoenix?

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<v Speaker 1>I met him online like majority of myselves. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>on so we're online, is it? I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And we've talked about various apps here. When when you

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<v Speaker 2>go online, are you seeking someone to date or are

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<v Speaker 2>you specifically seeking someone to just be submissive to your

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<v Speaker 2>sexual needs.

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<v Speaker 3>I personally like meeting like guys in person, but when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to like my work life wherever, wherever I'm at,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just be like, I'm a dumb and then they

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<v Speaker 3>just like, well, this is this is how I eat,

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<v Speaker 3>this is how I feed my family.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's no longer a secret. My dad doesn't know, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere my cowork is gonna be like, ain't that you

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<v Speaker 2>a little sweet one?

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows though, so it's no secret.

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<v Speaker 3>For a long time, I was saying I was a

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<v Speaker 3>bartender okay, which that work okay, But then my mom

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you're making a little too much money to

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<v Speaker 3>be a bar No.

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<v Speaker 4>You kind of look like, well, like you know when

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<v Speaker 4>you see a really hot bartender and you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>if she's not working in the day, you're so.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom was like, what are you doing? And then

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, if I tell my mom she

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<v Speaker 3>supports me, then fuck it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like listen, if you get one and a half parents

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<v Speaker 4>in on what you are. Like a few of my

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<v Speaker 4>gay friends are like, you know, my mom's cool, my

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<v Speaker 4>dad's not. Like it's happen half right.

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<v Speaker 3>So after that, I was like, it's on the open,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I created a business oiute of it, and

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<v Speaker 3>so everyone knows what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you love me?

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<v Speaker 3>And I brought you guys stickers, Oh thank you? Which

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<v Speaker 3>my q that has like oh wow, my website.

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<v Speaker 2>Me step with a QR code. You mean sticking this

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<v Speaker 2>around the city room. Yeah, wait, get the fuck out

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<v Speaker 2>of here.

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<v Speaker 1>So everywhere I go, like when I travel, this is

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<v Speaker 1>dumbing the business way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she has a sticker with a QR code, so

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<v Speaker 2>you just be sticking this in like bathroom stalls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Wall Street and I put it like

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<v Speaker 3>I was at like the Starbucks and Wall Street and

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<v Speaker 3>like outside of it, I put it and then I

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<v Speaker 3>got like so many subscriptions on my only fans are

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<v Speaker 3>my loy fans and like.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, well do you see this ship. It's a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>genius bro, Like I'm not tim in the cage. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't want to say m damn.

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<v Speaker 2>This is hot Okay, yeah wow A few things, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>do we think like sometimes that sex work is this

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<v Speaker 2>last resort and while we are just mean society, this

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<v Speaker 2>ain't last resort.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is intentional, this is bitch. I done this.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you get okay? Well, I want to direct

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<v Speaker 2>my questions. You di direct the phoenix?

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<v Speaker 1>Does phoenix ever get jealous of your other subs?

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<v Speaker 3>If he does, then I don't know about it because

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<v Speaker 3>then like you know your place, so get out of place. Ah,

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<v Speaker 3>he is my favorite service sub.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so he does things that I need. What are

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<v Speaker 2>the other subs that you have? Like, have service sub?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the other categories of subs?

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<v Speaker 3>Then there's subs that's like they just send me money,

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<v Speaker 3>just like just living life wrong y'all? Oh stop, what

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<v Speaker 3>don't you have those types of stuffs that have good content,

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<v Speaker 3>subs who allow me to do like whatever I want

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<v Speaker 3>to do to them to just get.

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<v Speaker 1>Fans for my lowly fans.

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<v Speaker 4>What kind of things would someone have to agree to? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I do a lot of crazy shit. What's the craziest

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<v Speaker 4>This is horrible decisions, girl.

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<v Speaker 3>So of course I'll do all the basics would be

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<v Speaker 3>like paggy and humiliation Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that that is a basic.

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<v Speaker 3>Humiliation as life work y'all that's regular like, but I

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<v Speaker 3>feel you though it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then.

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<v Speaker 3>The ship that really sells is the things that like

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<v Speaker 3>people are not gonna talk about or shit, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>I like shit on a lot of stuffs. And if

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<v Speaker 3>I can record that this is a good like one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty dollars a video.

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<v Speaker 1>You we are four minutes in no Icebreaker. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing a shit video, do you actually have to prep?

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<v Speaker 3>I know we're gonna like, No, I totally prep, like

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<v Speaker 3>doing what Mexican food. No, I prep like, so if

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm gonna have a shitting it's called scatting,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, just.

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<v Speaker 1>In case, just like tomato to scat what.

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<v Speaker 3>So anytime I have a scouting session, I just like

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta know, I gotta know at least twelve hours

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<v Speaker 3>in advance, because I don't do the cheating like the

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<v Speaker 3>laxative n So twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Hours in advance. Now you're about to become a scientist.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you know it's gonna be the consistency of

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<v Speaker 2>the ship you needed to It's the same.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just I've been doing you do so long. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the same exact It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Blueberries and a green juice and.

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<v Speaker 3>Awakate with chips, Like that's this agocatos avocado avocado. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just gonna like, girl, that's avocado.

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<v Speaker 1>She ain't say no other language.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so blueberries avocado and what looks she about to

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<v Speaker 2>do scatch session? No, butch, I'm about to fucking get skinny?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? Or green or and green juice?

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<v Speaker 3>Usually like the night before, I do it in the

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<v Speaker 3>morning between ten and twelve, like ten am and twelve o'clock,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's the best time for me to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll eat a bowl of blueberries, I'll eat agata

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<v Speaker 3>at night and then that's it and drink my water.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go to sleep and then in the morning I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta go. So I usually take a shower, put on

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<v Speaker 3>my clothes, get in a cap, and I'm at the Dungeon.

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<v Speaker 1>New York and my water.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, wait, so how what does the consistency of

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<v Speaker 2>the ship have to be like for it to be

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<v Speaker 2>like really exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like really come it's just like easy come out,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm not sitting there like pushing another disgusting, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not pushing.

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<v Speaker 1>People want like a mess? Do they want like diarrhea.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing they don't want. They don't want die.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why I don't do that. I don't cheat

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<v Speaker 3>with the laxative and the col I don't do any

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<v Speaker 3>tricks like I.

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<v Speaker 4>Just when you said I don't cheat, I don't cheat

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<v Speaker 4>and know that you find it honorable to ship the.

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<v Speaker 1>Right wing on cue right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Well we're gonna get more into step

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<v Speaker 2>step doms, dominate tricks, and dominating lifestyle. But here we go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>why not I decided to do a BDSM. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>ever or would you rather with you? Okay, just to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of open it up, but at this point you

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<v Speaker 2>just said pegging was lightweight, so we'll see. So have

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<v Speaker 2>you or would you ever devote an entire day to

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<v Speaker 2>sex and sexual activity with no breaks, like a whole

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<v Speaker 2>day twenty four hours?

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<v Speaker 1>You want a person? Or have you ever done that before?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've done that when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot younger. Okay, would I do that like today?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have shit to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's right, but a grown adon'tance. I have responsibility.

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<v Speaker 3>I I to do that one day, like in a

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<v Speaker 3>cabin or something like cabin buys he's just like cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually always wanted to fuck in the woods because

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<v Speaker 2>I watched a lot of get porn and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Be fucking in the woods. So I want to like

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<v Speaker 1>bend an.

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<v Speaker 2>Back, like I don't know, I want to get back mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>broke back mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yeah, I said bear back, same thing they had

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<v Speaker 1>bear back there, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Second one, have you ever brought your partner to orgasm

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<v Speaker 2>using only your hands? And if so, I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to know the technique using just my hands, just your

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<v Speaker 2>hands and the mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>Never I've made a guy come just by making out.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was just like super whoa he really? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just I think. So I was just making ours

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<v Speaker 3>on top of him. I was just like and then

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden he came and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh shit, this is what's going I came back, he

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<v Speaker 3>got back up. We never had sex though, he just

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<v Speaker 3>he just I don't know, actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't make someone come from a hand job.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think I was doing ship that was like

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<v Speaker 4>we all know this like double weaving thing. I took

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<v Speaker 4>my hand on the top and so he felt fingers

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<v Speaker 4>like this on the shine. Yeah, And I think that

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<v Speaker 4>was what got him there, but I was just like

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<v Speaker 4>really mixing it up. But also I can't remember why

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't suck his dick. Yeah, I like hand jobs

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<v Speaker 4>you do, Mandy doesn't want to put a fucking suck dick.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why what you mean where you were like I

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done. Yeah, I mean no.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're really really sexy and I really really want you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gawking all but you don't really like I enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>sucking dick when I like you.

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<v Speaker 1>But like so like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, when I used to have like the Ugly Sugar Daddies,

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<v Speaker 2>girl would tell him niggas ain't suck dick.

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<v Speaker 1>I was lying, like, motherfucker, go be the real nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it, suck his dick like he got no money,

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<v Speaker 2>got some Chinese food and gator ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait wait, I did have a question.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, when we going back to sub service sub what

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<v Speaker 4>kind of things does Phoenix service.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever I need? So, like what if I need laundry,

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<v Speaker 1>if I you my laundry done, if I need.

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<v Speaker 3>You to run like anything I need to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to walk out go to my leave

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<v Speaker 3>my house.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that's what you're here for. So I'll just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I need this done, and then he'll do it, and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll leave his house and do whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>He'll leave his house, which he lives in Brooklyn, so

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<v Speaker 3>he'll come all the way to Harlem and then just

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<v Speaker 3>and for.

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<v Speaker 2>Those of you who do not live in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>that is about a one hour commute on the train

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<v Speaker 2>or a solid forty five minutes and a goddamn uber.

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<v Speaker 1>So he just does whatever I need. So I think.

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<v Speaker 4>That like the very like vanilla version of the version

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<v Speaker 4>of this is somebody that is into giving acts of service, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And those are love languages when it comes to Dom's

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<v Speaker 4>and sub Can you maybe explain a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>how each person gets off from it, because somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>listen to this and be like, how's the sexual All

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<v Speaker 4>he did is get your law.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think a lot of it is like the connection.

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<v Speaker 3>They just like to be around you, to know you're black.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm around you, I feel you're a goddess. I like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a mind. It's like a mind fucking sore.

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<v Speaker 1>All white.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety nine percent of them are whites, and they just

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy the fact that, like they're just around me, you saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That they enjoy your blackness, though, does it become that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's like such a thing and you're okay with that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I do feel like a goddess i am black.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also like the opposite, right, So, like I

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<v Speaker 2>think when it gets racy.

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<v Speaker 4>But we were talking about this one, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>Manby was talking about race play and we were like debating,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I don't think there's a race play.

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<v Speaker 1>If one is, if blackness is in the higher light.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I say it. That's exactly how I say.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I know a lot of dams don't do race play, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I usually don't say nothing because I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for your types of well, yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's weird we talk about the it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>a whole hierarchy.

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<v Speaker 2>But even in sex work, there's sex workers that shame

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<v Speaker 2>other sex workers for the things they do.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all you know, Yeah, but what is the race

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<v Speaker 4>play that you do? What is that I do race play?

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<v Speaker 3>So like with I was arguing with you, I'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>about ancestors, I'll talk about our history, I'll talk about genetics,

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<v Speaker 3>just like anything that we're superior at, like work. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they love it. But when you said they'd

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<v Speaker 3>love to be around me, maybe it's just very queen

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<v Speaker 3>like energy. I feel like hundreds of years ago, like

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<v Speaker 3>when we think about servicing someone like we look at

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<v Speaker 3>them like that, like I want to give everything to

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<v Speaker 3>someone that is that powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you get from it?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you get off besides money or service needs made, demandsment?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel empowered, I feel I just feel good. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel blessed to be honest girl, you are I just

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<v Speaker 4>have a blessing.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to ask you a question because you said,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how you make your money, this is how

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<v Speaker 2>you pay your bills and support your family.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he paying to be here with you right now? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, But sometimes he's such a good service ub Sometimes no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not like sometimes he just if I need something,

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<v Speaker 3>just do it, like you don't got to pay me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then other times I need you to pay this

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<v Speaker 3>for this, like I don't want to come out of

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<v Speaker 3>pocket for a fifty dollar UVA like you know or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And when.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say how long what's your longest relationship

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<v Speaker 4>you've had with a sub And have you ever crossed

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<v Speaker 4>a boundary where it No?

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<v Speaker 1>I never crossed the boundary. It's two different lifestyles.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the type of men I like are like manly, black,

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<v Speaker 3>dominant type of men cross the.

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<v Speaker 1>Boundary, like maybe got too close even just friend. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I had.

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<v Speaker 3>My longest relationship with a sub was almost two years.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he started to fall in love with me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was like, this is getting ridiculous. And

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<v Speaker 3>then and he started to fall in love with me,

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<v Speaker 3>so he felt like I do all this for you,

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<v Speaker 3>like you should be with me. And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna be with you. And then he was

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<v Speaker 3>like straight up, he was like, funny enough, we had

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<v Speaker 3>a joint account, so we had an account together.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll put money in, yeah, and then he was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I do this, this, this, this is By the

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<v Speaker 3>time he was like trying to break up with me,

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<v Speaker 3>we had like ten racks in the account with like

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<v Speaker 3>and then he was like, if you're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be with me, then I'm gonna have to shut this

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<v Speaker 3>account down and I'm gonna have to go buy my way.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was reside now. Relationship wise, then you

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<v Speaker 2>said you date black men. Have you been in a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship since this has become your full time job. Now, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Now I want.

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<v Speaker 1>To know when you write a man that was, now, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what would the dynamic for a perfect world be like

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<v Speaker 1>for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Relationship wise? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, just someone who like understands and supports me, because

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<v Speaker 3>don't they be semi involved like hella.

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<v Speaker 1>No, But.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like dominate chicks is very taboo, so like

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<v Speaker 3>nobody knows what we really do. They automatically thinks we're

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<v Speaker 3>having sex with clients, right, and which is fine. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not judging anybody who does have sex with their clients,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't. I don't even get naked. I'm like

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<v Speaker 3>super like, I just very professional most of the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if people think dombs fuck clients. They

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<v Speaker 3>do on Twitter, there's like a thin line of like

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<v Speaker 3>so many doms that have the dominame on them and

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<v Speaker 3>they're fucking well.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to bring that exact point up because literally

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<v Speaker 2>when you came in and I was like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dominant, But I've never attached the domb title to

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<v Speaker 2>myself because technically I feel like I'm dominating a man

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<v Speaker 2>when I peg them. That is penetration. That's very other

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<v Speaker 2>times where I lead, I direct. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a dominant. I've probably misused calling myself a dom so

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<v Speaker 2>many times. Yeah, because it's how I am in the

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom where I'm not as the missive. Yeah, I switch

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, but anytime i've met true doms, i'd be like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if I could do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>also what I found interesting when we were taking our picture,

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<v Speaker 2>Weezy was like, now look mean, and you're like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a sweet dom, so can you express too, like how

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<v Speaker 2>you instill the dominatrix feel by power while also being sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just authentically myself. So I'm just a sweet, good

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<v Speaker 3>person regardless. And so when clients come to me, it's

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<v Speaker 3>obviously they want me to fulfill something.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's just my job.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not here, I'm not Yeah, I'm not here to

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<v Speaker 3>be a bitch unless you're paying me to humiliate you

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<v Speaker 3>or you know what I mean. Like and to get

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<v Speaker 3>clients to keep coming back. You want to make them

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<v Speaker 3>feel welcome and heard and seen, you know. So when

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<v Speaker 3>I first started doming, and I would see these subjects,

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<v Speaker 3>so I always like, you're so sweet, you're social, And then

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<v Speaker 3>I realized they always come back and I've had the

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<v Speaker 3>clients forever, and then I was like, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>it's I guess it's working, Like I guess me just

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<v Speaker 3>being me, just working instead of being a bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like in our brains we think of this. Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>And even when I said look mean, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>mean me more than I meant like serious, because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>thinking of a dog in the way of pointing their

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<v Speaker 4>finger and being really right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I am very bossy where it's like, but most

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<v Speaker 3>of my clients are obedient.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to get bitchy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, sit over here, do this, don't do that,

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<v Speaker 3>stop talking like you know, and they just they just listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have anything? Do you like to be humiliated

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<v Speaker 1>or talk down on? I do? You're so sweet? I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear it. I want to hear how you

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<v Speaker 1>would I just get real, like you a bitch ass nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>like oh, she just said, I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Turned.

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<v Speaker 1>They love it if they're white.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you white bitch, Just be like yes, miss, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so well? Do you for your humiliations real quick? Can

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<v Speaker 3>he give y'all a massage? Like he's here to do

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<v Speaker 3>stop work?

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not here to look like, Okay, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's your shoes already off. You could go first.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, he needs to get his lotion because he can't

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<v Speaker 3>prepare it. Yeah, oh he has.

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<v Speaker 2>He's good if you are watching on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can't really low. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I ask, just the field, not your Phoenix's job,

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<v Speaker 4>but just the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want people that are listening that are thank you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my favorite thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I want people that are listening that may feel

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<v Speaker 4>like they might want to service their partner or someone.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, way this is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I want to know, like how normal is Phoenix

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<v Speaker 1>or do you not even know? We have a regular conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>He's normal, I guess. But what field of work? What

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<v Speaker 1>field of work that he does? He's Do you say

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<v Speaker 1>how he's looking at me? I would say corporate? Corporate?

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<v Speaker 2>And your son? What is I guess the average? The

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<v Speaker 2>average so more than others. What is the average industry?

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<v Speaker 1>You would say corporate?

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<v Speaker 3>So like I have a lot of like really okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I got like a few doctors.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, is it true?

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<v Speaker 4>Like how they would always say policemen are like the

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<v Speaker 4>ones I want to be humiliated, Like, do you find

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<v Speaker 4>that your clients said.

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<v Speaker 1>Are I don't know if I've ever had a policeman

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<v Speaker 1>now that you say that takes them a long way

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<v Speaker 1>to make.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the money to pay well. That academy Bacon Bakederland.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why there's so many corrupt cops broug maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>ones I don't know when I say that to say,

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<v Speaker 2>do you find that the subs that serve you or

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<v Speaker 2>want to be humiliated are in very.

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<v Speaker 1>Demanding corporate roles? Yes, and that's their thing.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, oh, I I boast people around all day,

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<v Speaker 3>and I like, I'm always in charge, so it's always

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<v Speaker 3>good to come in unwine and then someone's the boss

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<v Speaker 3>of me and tells me what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a personality trait or maybe a common theme

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<v Speaker 4>that your subs have besides their.

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<v Speaker 3>Work, besides the fact that they're all white married? Are

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<v Speaker 3>they like a lot of them are married, A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of them are married. A lot of them are.

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<v Speaker 2>Asked their wives to do this to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just scared. Usually they are really scared.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Also that the telling it's better if it's someone

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<v Speaker 4>that like you can really lock into this role.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why the little sugar Dad, they gotta be married. Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want a single ship. I don't want a

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<v Speaker 1>single sugardaddy.

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to married sugardaddy where arrangement is known out

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking gate.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, mine had a lot of time on

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<v Speaker 1>his hands to go behage. But I liked it. He

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<v Speaker 1>likes your sugar daddy. He was fun. See, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to like my sugar. I don't want to like

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<v Speaker 1>sugar daddy.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit when we went to Panela and I remember like

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<v Speaker 4>he was like wanting to pay for fusty and get girls. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>this is great, and he was like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to make you upset.

0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh you are not, please get that.

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.920
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, the line was difficult to not be crossed.

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<v Speaker 4>But damn, this is good phiside.

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<v Speaker 2>We listen, well, we gonna keep it going. We are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get into our vanilla ship. So o, vanilla ship

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 2>is sex in the news. And this is a crazy one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little wild, it's a little nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>This is wild. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So a man who broke who previously spoke about his

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<v Speaker 2>sexual relationship with his carr has revealed that he's dumped

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<v Speaker 2>his old motor for a new set of wheels.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a man who.

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<v Speaker 2>Is talking about his friends with Benefits relationship with his

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<v Speaker 2>car and why it's so pleasurable. A man who asserted

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<v Speaker 2>his love for his nineteen ninety eight Chevy Monte car

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Loan on TLC is My Strange Addiction has ditched that

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<v Speaker 2>rusty engine and gotten a new car. He started the

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<v Speaker 2>documentary back in twenty twelve. He told him to come

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<v Speaker 2>over on.

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<v Speaker 1>God, can I get the left foot day? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>getting vote them? You gotta get the getting it time?

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<v Speaker 4>While I reach this side note, I almost like can't

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<v Speaker 4>wait for the switch because I'm like, this is so

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<v Speaker 4>too good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So he says, when you last saw me a

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<v Speaker 2>decade ago, I was in an intimate relationship with my car, Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually did give his car a name, Like wow, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>is this the TLC guy? Yes, this is the TLC guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So we may have talked about him before, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much talking about this friends with benefits relationship with

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 2>a fleets of wheels I do want to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>So he turned in that bullshit car and now has

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<v Speaker 2>a sexy black I love how they use the word

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<v Speaker 2>sexy and sleek trying to okay, sleek sexy black Lexus

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<v Speaker 2>he has three point thirty caught his eye. Although he

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<v Speaker 2>made it clear that his relationship with lex that's the

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<v Speaker 2>name is merely physical and nowhere near serious. He seemingly

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>looks at her over the rest. He even gave her

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<v Speaker 2>a cute nickname, baby girl. Lex isn't the only love

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<v Speaker 2>of my life right now. I've been expanding the family.

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<v Speaker 2>Among said family is Jordan, a hot, sexy and luxurious,

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<v Speaker 2>luxurious sedan. Nathaniel can't keep his dirty pause who was

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<v Speaker 2>to fuck it in? He admitted that he's always touching

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<v Speaker 2>up on Jordan and giving him kisses, so he is

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<v Speaker 2>like sexual and physical with these cars. I show affection

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<v Speaker 2>for Jordan in many ways. We've been intimate. When the

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel is in the mood for a dominant, manly car,

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<v Speaker 2>he turns to his big black SUV Jet. He said

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<v Speaker 2>Jet has a cute butt that was more defined by

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<v Speaker 2>his hot tail lights.

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<v Speaker 4>There are moments where like, I have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>white friends, I don't think they're this way. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna lie, Phoenix, Are you that white to car?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to have? Well, no, there are but vially.

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<v Speaker 2>Now intimate relationships was By the way, he gotta have

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit of money.

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<v Speaker 1>The sedan maybe not so much.

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<v Speaker 2>The nigga got elected a ge he got three three

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<v Speaker 2>cars minimum, which is why he thinks. And the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he's calling this expanding his family while he's having

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<v Speaker 2>friends with benefits relationships with all he got multiple I

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<v Speaker 2>want there is video.

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<v Speaker 1>This is him kissing Chase. I guess Nathaniel has a

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<v Speaker 1>shrine for Chase in his bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what people need to play video games. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, No, this is crazy. This is

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<v Speaker 2>don't say that. This is what keeps men from kissing

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<v Speaker 2>cars is playing video games.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, get another hobby.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, just like most people in relationships with

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>family photos and things around their house, Nathaniel has a

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 2>shrine for Chase in his bedroom, which includes blankets, pillowcases,

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<v Speaker 2>picture frames that are each embedded with a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>him and.

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<v Speaker 1>His old car. Okay, sick well no, by.

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<v Speaker 2>The way, there's another car called Adam, and he wraps

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 2>his legs around him and feels like he's hugging them.

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 2>They used to spend more time on the lake with him,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's been a while. This is also an American manual.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if you give.

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<v Speaker 4>To jerk off in like is it on the leather?

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<v Speaker 4>Is the steering wheel? Is it the outside car?

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<v Speaker 2>We will be that our sex and I will tell

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 2>y'all my ex had a big, old car and it

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<v Speaker 2>was the best car sex I've ever had.

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>And he was also huge.

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 2>But there would be times where he would park the

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.400
<v Speaker 2>car and instead of waiting to go upstairs, I would

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<v Speaker 2>fuck him in the backseat of the truck because it

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 2>was so every time we left the goddamn nude beach,

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<v Speaker 2>we would fucking the parking lot like car sex in.

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<v Speaker 1>This cant fuck on the nude beach.

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<v Speaker 2>No fuck, no, okay that what people do that is

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<v Speaker 2>illegal even in a sex club.

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>You're insign not like fucking get the cars legal? Okay,

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>as long as nobody sees you.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 2>It's only illegal if you're caught. She would have been

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>a more bitch, so it ain't ill. I don't be

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>illegal if someone sees it illegal, Let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't understand how I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we've talked about this, but I would

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<v Speaker 4>love to hear you talk about putting this out somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure someone's told you you're doing something wrong. Thank you, Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 1>That was so good. That was good. You could take

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>this shoe off. Trying to get you see I'm a

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>dominon dominon.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, tell us a little bit about how domination

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 4>domination is legal and why is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it? It? Is it? I mean now? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't know. I try to look it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I've I have I have a client who's a lawyer

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>who wrote up like a whole contract for me to

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 3>give to clients just in case I cover my ass.

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Really, one thing we're in that contract.

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 3>That everything is consensual, that like you can't sue me.

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 3>It was just real well written lawyer.

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<v Speaker 4>So from from what I've learned, trying to interrupt you,

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 4>but I want you to know what you're doing is legal.

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<v Speaker 4>On the TV show, I'm doing sex cells, I've only

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 4>covered I covered three dungeons, one in particular, specifically the

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 4>one in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to share. I want to come every time

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 2>we record, it's about me. The third unificial goddamn.

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 3>The next night is the night you gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all got to pay me, Oh no, I told you

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to concentrate. Okay, go ahead, you could ask

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Mandy's like, are you interviewed? Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So on the TV show, I basically learned while going

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 4>into a dungeon that the way that this particular dungeon

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 4>is legal is because it's an acting.

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Studio, right, So that part, I know, like writing it

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>uns as a studio because the studio has to be

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 3>anything you know now.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>As a person collecting funds.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the way they the what is illegal in specifically

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 2>the state that we're living in, which is New York,

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>is intercourse.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, right? She said she don't set.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I read something that if I'm penetrating, then

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 3>that's technically intercourse, Like if I'm and I have a

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 3>strap on, then that's technically.

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Into course it is.

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 4>Then I also read, but that's also maybe if your

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 4>sessions lead there, correct. So there's this gray area of

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 4>someone paying you to act out a scene and then

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 4>you get passionate and do something like if you decide

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 4>to peg them, that's on you.

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Then I heard the whole giving the money directly like

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 3>this is what I this is what I read like,

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 3>given the money directly is where it's like.

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>The way girl, we got cash easily, I have to

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>take the money directly.

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 3>I just be like just in case, I'm like put

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>it on the table, and then they'll put it on table.

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Now. But what about in the age of digital money,

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 2>like digital current.

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Because you have to send me like get deposit through.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had a payment blocked?

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 3>When I first first started, someone requested their money back

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 3>on PayPal, which is why I tell sex workers now.

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Never take PayPal. Never ever take PayPal. Yes, you not

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>do it? Why they just said no, PayPal is so easy,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>like they'll give you your money back.

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 2>You did beat me up enough, but no, but to

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 2>dispute on PayPal image into it. But also they're not

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 2>going to see here inside with the yeah, exactly.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 3>And it was a picture, so thank god it wasn't

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 3>a session, but it was like pictures of my feet

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 3>and then I don't know, He's just like, hmm, hey whatever,

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 3>he got his money back. Oh, it's fine. It was

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 3>a lesson learned from me. And I was like, I'm

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 3>in La so in California County, the dungeon that I

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 3>was in, do you have to pay for a space

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 3>and it's legal, so basically kind of like that acting

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 3>studio thing. Right, So if there's no brick and mortar

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 3>or no address where you're in a space doing whatever

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 3>you want, then it's not there's like mad little nuances

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 3>to it. But I really appreciate that you had a

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 3>lawyer who helped you through that, because I think anybody

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 3>listening should figure it out, because at the end of

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>the day, in my brain, I'm like, Okay, wef I'm

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>not fucking for money, I'm not getting arrested. You never

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 3>know some of y'all might live in butt fuck I

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 3>don't know places.

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of like to be fair too though,

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 2>outside of fucking, they are considering a lot more things

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 2>as sex work without sex exactly, which is why you

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>being a dom, which is why even my foot page

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 2>got removed. There's a lot of things that have there's

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>no penetration, there's no sex, there's no nudity. I had

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a foot page during uh the pandemics twenty four hours

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>it was shut down for sex.

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>This is like my what third page of me? Addie you?

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I was about to say, she and I've probably crazy.

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 2>We've maybe only been following each other what like six months, yes,

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 2>and she's went through like three pages.

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't post nothing. I don't like she be.

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Posting out in New York. Her page is real regular.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they smell it. Yeah, they smell it.

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 3>So though, finally they'll because at first they wasn't telling

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 3>me why they was banding me, like Instagram would just

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 3>take my ship and be like, but you.

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Think it's also because you do your name on there

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 2>is step down dom. Maybe that when they filtered through

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the names, like the wa that's behind a lot of

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 2>sex workers as well male sex workers there, or yeah,

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't like they basically told me that I was

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 3>selling sex, especially when they sent it back to me,

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 3>they were like, you're selling sex and I'm like selling sex?

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Oh, I mean to be fair.

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 2>One of the other things that I guess got tagged

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 2>when our page got removed, we were posting for performers. Okay,

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 2>they said that performers for our lives. Yeah, they said

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 2>we were soliciting sex just by saying we wanted performers.

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 2>So it's and maybe because we use bds or because

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 2>when we put bir let's we put erotic poetry.

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, Kim Kardashian nipple on Instagram. Yeah,

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>no ship that. I actually don't even use those hashtags.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.399
<v Speaker 1>What do you say no to? Oh, my hard nose

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>as a domb.

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 4>And if you can give us your subs hard notes too,

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 4>if they have any Okay, my heart, my hard nose

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 4>are blood play.

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just readly not into plain and what way do

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>people want to do blood? But blood play just.

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Like needles through just drawing blood, putting blood, like just

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 3>anything with their blood. They're into that. I'm not really

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 3>into like playing with people blood and my blood.

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>So I don't even have sex a period. You're won't

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 2>do it. I see someone silent over you on the

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>couch yours is only like two days?

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, how long is your period? Five days?

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I was saying, So I'm fucking in there. Yeah, I'll

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 3>fuck on the brown at least, dude, not fuck on

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 3>the brown is not. I just don't feel sexy on

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 3>my period, Like I'll give you head.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't really fuck. Nope, I'm not teasing myself. I

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>ain't giving you weird.

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 4>It don't take me much to not feel hot, bro.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 4>I honestly like, I think I could be in the

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 4>hospital bed and be like I'm pretty right, like you

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 4>just go.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, wa keep going? So okay, blood play age play.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't really like the.

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Like a baby, and so just teaching being on kids

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 3>for eight years and then like it's just not my thing.

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 3>And then they want to do things like put on

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 3>a pampa run around and he's like fucking fifty six

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 3>years old.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 1>You want to run around in a panther.

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 3>It's like mommy, mommy, And I'm just like I can't

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 3>roll play to this ship like this is I did

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 3>it one time? That was the one time and I

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 3>was and you realize no, and as you go you learn.

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Is that something? Then will you try anything? Once?

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 3>I would okay, yes, and then once you realize it's

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 3>not for you that I never tried the blood play,

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of my friends do blood plays. I've

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 3>seen like their work and I was like, yeah, it's

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 3>just like not my thing.

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>With the play is it they want you to be

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>or they want to they want.

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 3>To be they want to be yeah, and it's like

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 3>full blown like they're pampas.

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>They pissing on their pampas. They're the pampas.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, but yeah, someone that like be changed adult

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 3>baby diapers.

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Huh. They want to wear bibs. They want you to

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>rock them, and.

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 3>It's it's weird, Like it's just yeah, it's not as

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 3>we got to realize.

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Bro, who am I rocking? You know?

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 4>What's you know how like subs some people associate with

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 4>like a very feminine thing I kind of don't like

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.760
<v Speaker 4>for the most part, Like I feel like worshiping isn't necessary,

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 4>like this feminine thing, Like I just I think it

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 4>can be hot. Something about men and the baby and

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 4>needy thing is scary. I don't really look at submission

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 4>like that, but that does scare me a little bit

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 4>for some reason.

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't like. Yeah, so age playing blood play

0:36:55.960 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and then your age play blood play just got your clearly,

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's really it.

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.919
<v Speaker 3>And then I don't order, I don't switch. I don't

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.480
<v Speaker 3>sub Oh, you don't stop at all. I don't stop

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 3>unless I'm in a relationship. Then I'm cool being submissive

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 3>in my man. But like with my clients, I've never switched.

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I've never subbed. What do you think it's the most

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 3>common request, My most common request, my most my two

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 3>number one inquiries for the longest has been scatting and pegging.

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Really scattering.

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.919
<v Speaker 3>He just out you're asking to be it's I get

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 3>that a lot. Okay, have you gotta know walk me through it?

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Because I say that she was gonna make sure we

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.760
<v Speaker 2>got She all make jokes about it, but like, really,

0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 2>what is that?

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Like you do it and they're jerking off, you do it,

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:44.959
<v Speaker 1>and you stop, you do it and you do something else,

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like how awkward is it? While it's coming out like

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>that'd be it? So they eat it. Let's go from

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>step one to so they come in. You said, yeah,

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>let's go walk us through a scout session. Okay.

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 3>They come in like, Hi, how was your commute? And

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 3>then they'll be like it was great. And then by

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 3>then my stomach is like okay, you really gotta go now.

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 3>And so then I'll be like, well, bring the toilet

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 3>because in the dungeon there's a toilet that you sit

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 3>on and then the bottom is open so they can

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 3>fit like their top half of their body in and

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 3>they're just like laying there like.

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>That okay, and then I'm sitting back, got my white bees.

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 3>I got like usually, I got like a playlist that

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 3>I play while I'm shitting, and.

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I need to know the music. Why nah, I gotta

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>notice we need every d I'm gonna send you my playlist.

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.399
<v Speaker 1>It'd be like Rihanna, like Love on the Brain.

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 3>It's like one of my favorite songs like you you

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:35.439
<v Speaker 3>Shit to Love on the Brain.

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's weird. This might be one of my favorite

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>things someone ever said on the show. Keep going. You

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>put on a.

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 3>Ship, sorry, I put on my playlist and then I'm

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 3>sitting there and I'm just like going, and like, guys,

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 3>blueberry has so much fiber in there that you're gonna

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 3>fucking go, like you're just going, and then you just

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm just going, and so it's like all over them. Obviously,

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 3>it's like all over their face. Some of them will

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 3>try to consume as much as they can abdi see

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 3>its not that easy trying to eat it as it's

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:04.280
<v Speaker 3>coming out of your bootle.

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't ready for that.

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 3>They didn't get well, were you ready for this? It

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 3>gets really it gets really crazy. And then sometimes they

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 3>like to just play in it like a pig in mud,

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:17.240
<v Speaker 3>so they smear.

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>How long are these sessions in? About thirty minutes or

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>some hour? An hour? Yeah, wait you for that. I

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>don't ship for an hour I'm shitting for about too minutes.

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Ship for fifteen hours. Now, I'm sitting on the toilet.

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting.

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting there like because I'm remember I got to

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 3>roplay this so like it's coming like.

0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Is it big enough? Like I'm bro playing, like is

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the ship coming out? My big up? What are you?

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>What are it? What are like?

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 4>I know what I like to say in dirty talk

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 4>because I'm basic. Oh my god, yeah, I want you

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 4>to feel my pussy up. I want this, I want

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 4>I need to hear this scatter dirty talk. Let's go

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 4>give it to a girl, like, let's go. Is it

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 4>big enough? You like it? It tastes oh, tastes good?

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:04.880
<v Speaker 4>And then they'll usually be like.

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, miss, does anyone tell you it stinks? Or it's

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>like do they like saying that?

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 3>They usually I have regulars that comfort a lot, and

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 3>so they always like, just it tastes it tastes so rich.

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 3>That's what they say. It tastes so rich. One time

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 3>I came hungover and I was out drinking honey. Now

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, the honey ship is no joke.

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 2>The honey ship is something. Why I ain't gonna hold

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 2>you that might be was Bro, No, have you shut up?

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Have you wait?

0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever went out? Oh wait, I don't know,

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you're not really drinking? Hold on, Wolf, don't drink. No,

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie that going out on a night

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 2>drinking Hennessy. Bro, I know we'd be talking about honey, Dick.

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 2>We ain't never talked about that honey ship.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 3>The next day, Bro, that ship is breaking drinking honey.

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like you can't get up and go out the

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 3>next day. You gotta like sit down and ship.

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>That's wow. I'm I'm we.

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 2>I did want to go ahead, make sure we got

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 2>to our hoard dirve for anyone interested.

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Wait, wait, what ship? Were we? Yeah? She said, no,

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>were we?

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Look because I'm just saying that I had a Heney,

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I had a Hendy ship. That was the first time

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 3>I've done something like that, like out Henny ship. And

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 3>so the whole time it came out like water. And

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 3>he's just like, just oh wait, you're right.

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 2>We were only on the step where you were dirty

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 2>talking what comes next within the hour.

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>So we're in the first face.

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes okay like sometimes and then after that they'll play

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 3>in it. They'll use it to jerk off. That's like

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 3>the one thing that they like, use it as loop.

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.680
<v Speaker 1>They use your ship as loop. Yeah, and then that's it.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.879
<v Speaker 3>And then they'll come So now they're and ship and

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 3>sperm and whatever the fuck else is going on down there.

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.680
<v Speaker 3>And then he'll get up and he'll wipe himself down

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 3>with Wipeyes.

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Are you in the room all this? Like do you

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 1>watch them do this? Yeah? Like being watch I'm sitting

0:41:58.360 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>there watching them do this.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 3>It's my ship, so I'm just like, this is regular

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 3>and I'm so used to it now, this is regular.

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 3>And then that's he'll clean himself up. There's a there's

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 3>a shower, he'll go in the shower. He'll watch his

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 3>ass off. Do people want a lot of times they

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 3>don't bring in their toothbrush, so they just only get

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Listenerene and they just got a ship in between their

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 3>teeth until they go home. And then that's it and

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 3>then they go they show had a great time, Dave.

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 3>I know you were gonna leave early, and I see

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 3>you're still there.

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Wow. And I'm not surprised because I wouldn't fucking leave you.

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Now. Order wise, I do want to ask you to

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 2>let us know any tip you have for women who

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 2>would be interested in this dominatrix sort of lifestyle minus

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the sex, because I think that it does take. Did

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 2>you watch YouTube videos like how did you get in

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 2>the mindset to do this with hours that you're that

0:42:56.200 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 2>you don't romantic? Yeah, that you don't want so and

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 2>give us advice on how we can well they can

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 2>say listeners being advised, but me being advice.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So how I got like it's all it's all

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 3>about chrials and like you fuck up and then you

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 3>learn from it and you like like so when I

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 3>started off, I started in the dungeon. By the way,

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot of these corporate buildings downtown New York has

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 3>dungeon and them. So I started off like that. And

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.920
<v Speaker 3>so I was learning through these clients, Like I would

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 3>go in there and they'll like me, They'll like how

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 3>I look. So they were like I was session with

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 3>him and then I'm like, I'm only two weeks in

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 3>and then like it's fine, and so I'll do things

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 3>and they'll be like try it this way, try it

0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:36.760
<v Speaker 3>that way, and you know, and then I just clothes

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 3>so that to affect my craft. Wow, because I couldn't

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 3>find nothing online. Porn is like you spank them for

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 3>a little bit then you're fucking And.

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell me some of the things you've learned from

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>a from a sub.

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, I learned how to peg.

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 3>There's like specific loops for like assholes and like the

0:43:58.560 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 3>whole shabang.

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I learned how to peg.

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:04.959
<v Speaker 3>My humiliation skills like a one And that came from

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 3>just like doing it over and over and over and

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 3>just finding new just being creative.

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Really what else? You know what?

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 3>The only thing I don't probably do is the whole

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 3>shabari ship. That's like the one thing that I'm like,

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason, I can't get the downpack.

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 4>When when they taught you how to peg? What, like

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 4>what specifically was it? Things they wanted done to them?

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Was it? How was it your stroking? Was it the

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>things you wanted to say? Like literally everything, like how

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 1>you slide in there?

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 3>Right, because it's not like a pussy way you could

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 3>just get in there, so you got yeah, everything and

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 3>like the actual stroking and like old, what.

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Should we gotta do?

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 2>You?

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:44.880
<v Speaker 1>How you getting there? You know I might be pigging,

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you might be So I just want to strap on.

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 4>When I was in Paris, Oh, I just wanted to

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 4>bring that up.

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>No, but I did. But I really did buy there

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>because it was on fuses time.

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 4>But no, I brought it. It's in the house right now.

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:58.800
<v Speaker 4>It's under my bed and I'm just gonna whip it

0:44:58.800 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 4>out whatever.

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.879
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, make them come by the way. It's

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:02.919
<v Speaker 1>not that hard core.

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not when you're trying to peg them and come,

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 3>make them come by pegging.

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not that hard core. So, like said, it is

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>not low stroke. That's fine.

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I got a video making a nigga come paggan no

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 2>legs up in the air and he was he was

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 2>stroking his dick, and then I took his dick in

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 2>my hand, like I like to see it, going in

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>and stroking your dick at the same time, like I

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 2>like to see dick. Okay, So he got on his

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 2>back and literally this was morning sex too. Got in

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 2>that bootle hole because it was open from the night before,

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 2>and literally but was so slow with it. Like at

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 2>one point, mind you, I had just woke up. So

0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I started just pushing the dick and I wasn't even

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 2>fully stroking, but just doing it real slow.

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I was stroking that nigga dick.

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Explode that's the best. That's the best. So that's so

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 3>you would say, yeah, it's very slow, it's very slow.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I do a lot of training, so a lot of

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 3>these guys they probably never had it. So I start

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 3>off with like my finger really really like straight, like

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 3>we you know. Then the next time he comes see me,

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 3>we'll do like a vibrating plug and the stimulation from

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 3>the vibrating and their plug they'll like get them open.

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Then we'll start with something real small and then now

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 3>that because it's too small, I can't peg you. So

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm like later manually, like that was my first time,

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Like that's how I pegged.

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 4>I felt like it was super like I was using

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 4>my hand more than stroke because I think I really

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 4>needed to go slow. Remember that model guy peg It

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 4>was really tough for me because I was noticing that

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 4>like he almost wanted to hold my hand as think

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I was his first, but like

0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 4>he needed to like guide it.

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, okay, this is this is a lot.

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 4>I kind of want you to have a little bit

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 4>of experience before I get in here.

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 1>We can't both be confused.

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I know now though, to also shop with your partner

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 2>because the very first time I pegged, he did not

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:52.439
<v Speaker 2>want it to look like a dick. So I went

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.959
<v Speaker 2>and was like, okay, I need to pack this guy,

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:56.399
<v Speaker 2>but it can't look like a dick.

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So they gave me a prostate toy.

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Which heard at the end, so it was like cylinder

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 2>with a little with a little curve at the end.

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And then she was like, you want the curve to

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 2>be towards the belly button. That's where the proceed is,

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 2>so if he's on his back and the other way

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:13.839
<v Speaker 2>this way. But it was hard, and I realized, so

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I tried to use that with my second partner that

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I pegged, and they were like, oh, this is so uncomfortable.

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:20.959
<v Speaker 2>But the other guy, I think, just couldn't get past

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 2>mentally that it looked like a dick. But I think

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 2>really getting something that feels real is the way to go, too,

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Like using something that's just a hard cylinder would a

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 2>look it didn't work there.

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those are the ones that like more realistic. Those

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 1>we don't. One, well, look at you two peggers. You

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.959
<v Speaker 1>sitting here saying you about to become a pegger too.

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>He might just be talking.

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Wait, wait, he's talking like he gonna let you?

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Does she does she bring this up at all? Well,

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 2>if you see joined there for my real life, that's

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna be good. Well, it's gonna be I think he's

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.919
<v Speaker 2>had like plugs and stuff and fingers and so he's

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:05.479
<v Speaker 2>just like, I'm like, why have you never like done peg?

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, what am I gonna fucking ask for it?

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's the thing I wanted to ask you before

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 2>we get out of here, only because it's something that

0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 2>we know having this show right, being a sexually open

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 2>or sexually liberated you said your family knows that you

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 2>do this for a living. Being open about what you

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 2>do it does bring It does make dating even more difficult.

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 2>So do you feel like you'll get to a point

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 2>where you feel like you'll have to give this up

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 2>and go back to working a job to find love

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 2>or to be in a relationship, or do you genuinely

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.879
<v Speaker 2>do you have friends that have found love in this?

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 3>I do have friends that Yeah, okay, I have a

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 3>lot of friends that found love doing this. But like

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 3>I was saying earlier, it's so taboo that people don't know,

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 3>so off rip the type of guys for whatever reason

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:53.879
<v Speaker 3>that I come across, they automatically feel like I'm doing

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 3>stuff at the dungeon, and I'm like, I'm not, even

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 3>like literally, you do not. I have never done anything,

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:03.440
<v Speaker 3>so it's really hard. I've always said that if I

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:06.279
<v Speaker 3>did get engaged, I would give this up if I

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 3>was to have a baby.

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Ah okay, now if I was married or I mean,

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>would come back to it or you would completely.

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 3>I think by then I would because I teach, by

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 3>the way, I think by then I'll probably be like

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 3>a mentor hopefully own a dungeon or just like but

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 3>probably not.

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 4>You you're scared that, like because like being a teacher,

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 4>because I mean, to me, that sounds like a passion, right,

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 4>like you seem to enjoy it. You won't even do

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 4>age play because of it? Do you only get scared

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:37.439
<v Speaker 4>that they're gonna be like you can't do this shit?

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 4>We see all these only fans creators that are getting fucking.

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a teacher no more. I used to be. Yeah,

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I used to have nine two years ago.

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.480
<v Speaker 2>And now do you do any sort of classes or

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:49.719
<v Speaker 2>teaching in the in the dungeon because like all of

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 2>my friends that own dungeons.

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, she's talking about kids teaching kids, right, No, I'm

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>not teaching women, teaching women. Oh yeah, teacher with kids. Yeah, okay,

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 1>but now she still is a teacher.

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:02.840
<v Speaker 2>So she said she would do that in a dungeon

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 2>that she may own, got it, I think, yeah, that

0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 2>would be what I think that that's all I know

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:13.240
<v Speaker 2>people do. So we've had troy On who owns a dungeon,

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 2>rented out all her dungeon equipment for television shows. But yeah,

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:19.760
<v Speaker 2>she's like in her dungeon, even no sex. She teaches

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:21.320
<v Speaker 2>couples how to use things safely.

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 1>She helped She put me in a rig and taught

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 1>King Noir how to like break people up with bondage.

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And it was also instructional.

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 2>We sitting there with cocktails and she's like, okay, so safety,

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 2>safety first, this is what you need to have. And

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:39.319
<v Speaker 2>it was literally using these contraptions because of course, sex

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 2>toys and all these things can fucking go up to

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands of dollars.

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I teach girls how to like get into

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 3>the industry and like how to create a business, okay, domination.

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:52.239
<v Speaker 4>While we're like not even at first, I was gonna

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 4>say tell people that I feel like will be the

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 4>biggest influx of messages you'll get from horrible decisions listeners

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 4>is how to help them the way, So can you

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 4>tell people how to get in contact with you for

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 4>that if you do so?

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:08.839
<v Speaker 3>My classes are virtual because I'm don't travel and teach,

0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 3>so it's virtual. It's about two and a half hours long,

0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 3>and I basically teach you everything you know to be

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:17.240
<v Speaker 3>everything you need to know to become a professional dominatrix.

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there a certificate at the end.

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:29.719
<v Speaker 3>So I teach you safety, platforms, vocabulary, equipment, how to

0:51:29.760 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 3>book like just everything marketing.

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:33.879
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I was gonna ask you the whole thing.

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you help them get clients? Well, I give you

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>all the resources you need share.

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Because there's a lot of there's a lot of websites

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 3>like the average person won't know. So when you take

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.279
<v Speaker 3>my course, I teach you about these websites and then

0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm teaching you how to actually utilize them and how

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 3>to become you know, a domb on these places.

0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm in love with you. I'm gonna get in

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:01.360
<v Speaker 2>that court. But I want to know if there's follow

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 2>up courses for.

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so walking up follow no, I do offer that

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>if that where.

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 4>Wait, gonna have a class and they make you do

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 4>like it's like something education education.

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's bring the corporate here.

0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Now. Most of my girls they I give you my

0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 3>number and then forever they always like end up always

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 3>text me randomly. They'll text me like, hey, Steph, what

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:23.959
<v Speaker 3>do you think of this? And I'm like, oh, that's great,

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 3>do this or say this, and then they therapy.

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 2>She charges again, continued education. We'll let our listeners know

0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 2>where they can follow you, where they can find you.

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I know you have a loyal fans and only fans

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully you're everything. So you can follow me on

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Instagram at Steph dommy.

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that correct? That's like my line check by the

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>time this comes out. But no, put that in the universe.

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I don't even know what's my it is.

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's Steph s T E p H d O

0:52:58.280 --> 0:52:59.960
<v Speaker 1>M m E. Yes, that one's up.

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 3>So that's my Instagram. My Twitter is dommy stuff, so

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 3>it's the other way d O M m e stuff.

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:11.279
<v Speaker 3>That's where all the real juices are. Yes, and then

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I made a new back up, but this is that

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:18.000
<v Speaker 3>one is my actual Dominatrix page, which is NYC Stephanie

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 3>just like that NYC Stephanie.

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Or you can book me. We're gonna post that game.

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 3>You can book me at dominate me stuff dot com. Oh,

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:30.400
<v Speaker 3>come on website.

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna have these links in the description, so if

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 4>you're listening on YouTube audio, you can.

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Click on them from here and you can write me

0:53:37.280 --> 0:53:38.959
<v Speaker 1>on any pot don't get.

0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Make sure uh the check clears hone because I do

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 2>this for a living man, don't waste my time.

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys for having me.

0:53:49.719 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 2>You were talked about ship pegan and got a massage.

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I look, listen, y'all, this job is pretty great. But

0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 2>also almost seven years in, we have not went this

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<v Speaker 2>since of detailed to scat play with any of our guests.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're sorry, Yeah, very descriptive. Wow, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>there was all. You didn't want to let me give

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<v Speaker 1>my shit off. You've got it off a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I was like, can we get off

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<v Speaker 1>the shit? Make sure you get your tickets.

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<v Speaker 2>We are DC and New York them the only ones left,

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<v Speaker 2>so go to Horrorhive dot com again.

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<v Speaker 1>New York will be our last show.

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<v Speaker 2>November eighteenth we want to see all of you mother

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<v Speaker 2>fucking whoes in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>It is going to be a time. A time will

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<v Speaker 1>be had, and we would.

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<v Speaker 4>Recommend if you've already been to a show and you

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<v Speaker 4>want to wrap it up, DC or New York are

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<v Speaker 4>great places to come and check us out right, take

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<v Speaker 4>a little weekend trip if you want to. Those will

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<v Speaker 4>be different shows than the ones you guys stay in

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<v Speaker 4>the Midwest and the East, the West Coast, the East.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a compass, and I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>also let.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys know we are on Patreon and if you're

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<v Speaker 2>coming to New York and we're not sold out yet,

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing an after party play party, partnering with

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<v Speaker 2>both NSFW and Soucia NYC. So if you've never been

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<v Speaker 2>to a sex club before, if you've never been to

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<v Speaker 2>a play party and you want to experience it, you

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<v Speaker 2>can come.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not have to play at all.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have impact stations and we will have also

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<v Speaker 2>quite a few familiar faces for some of the people

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<v Speaker 2>who have been on this couch in this podcast before.

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<v Speaker 2>So in order to even get the link and become vetted,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to become a patron. So go on over

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<v Speaker 2>to Patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions. We also have

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<v Speaker 2>bonus content over there for you guys as well.

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<v Speaker 4>If you can't make it to the fuck party, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>probably gonna do an after party in New York where

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna just have some house music and ratchet shit.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm bringing my mom to the show, which is

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<v Speaker 4>why I can't join in on the I'm going there,

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<v Speaker 4>but I ain't playing. But I'm gonna beat a drinks

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<v Speaker 4>and all.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Jewel can't be in there. Drinks is that what

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<v Speaker 1>you do? Listen, drinks, free rolls, shrooms is about to

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<v Speaker 1>be a time. It sounds like a really fun time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's gonna be a time anyways, guys, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you step for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you saying hey y'all. Thank you for tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>to another episode of Horrible Decisions. The hop po