1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast Woven Now number two Monday edition, Clay 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you listening 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: to us coast to coast and around the world. You 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: can go subscribe to the podcast and join tens of 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: millions of Clay and Buck listeners on the download team 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: every single month. All you have to do is search 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: out my name, Clay Travis, starch out Buck Sexton. 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I don't even know how it 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: all works to get podcasts delivered to your phone or 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: listening to vices. So Buck, you credit where credit is 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: due one hundred percent. In the two years that we've 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: been on this show, to my knowledge, have steadfastly argued 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's running for reelection. I mean, Bill Riley called 23 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: me a genius, but said I was wrong on this 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: one on this show, paging doctor O'Reilly, we gotta get 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: him back. So I believe that they would find an 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: excuse to shuffle Joe Biden off the stage until the 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: midterms mid terms. Day after the midterms, come on, you 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: go back and listen to the tape. I said. The 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: most consequential outcome I thought of the midterms was it 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: gives Joe Biden twenty twenty four viability. It gives his 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: political candidacy life at a time when it seemed like 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: they were on the ropes and more inclined to have 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: Democrats stand up against him because of where the country was. Now, 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: we are almost as I said earlier to March. Joe 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: Biden announced in April twenty nineteen that he would be 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: running for the presidency in twenty twenty. The time frame 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: basically seems the same. Other than Mary Ann Williamson, the 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: kookie New Age guru of thought, whatever you want to 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: call her, it does not appear that there will be 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: any other Democrat challenging Joe Biden, at least not so far, 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: and Jill Biden actually came out and kind of put 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: this to bed. I want to play a couple of 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: cuts from you. She says that Joe Biden is ready 44 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: to run for twenty twenty four. Pretty much, he's not done. 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: He's not finished what he started, and that's what's important. 46 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: And I think, look at all that Joe has has done, 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: has accomplished. I mean, he brought us out of the chaos, 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: and he did that. He was elected because people wanted 49 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: steady leadership and I think they saw that in Joe 50 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: and they saw his care. So is all that's left 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: at this point is just to figure out a time 52 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: and place for the announcement pretty much pretty much. Okay, 53 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: that's one cut, and then she was asked about whether 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: she is wanting Joe to run listen to cut twelve. Well, 55 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: he said he intends to run, So nothing's been planned yet. 56 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's been so busy with being 57 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: in Ukraine handling some of the crises at home, so 58 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's putting that first, he's putting 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: America's business before he's putting his own. But has the 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: decision been made amongst the family that he's going to run. Well, 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: it's Joe's really, it's Joe's decision, and we support whatever 62 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: he wants to do if he's in or there. If 63 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: he wants to do something else, we're there too. Is 64 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: there any chance at this point that he's not going 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: to run? Not in my book, you're all for it. 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. Of course, there you go. So 67 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: that look, that takes away the obvious step down move, 68 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: which would be for him to say, my family for 69 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: reasons of health and I want to spend time with 70 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: the grandchildren, etc. That's not going to happen, right, So 71 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: he's not going to offer that up. You would think, look, 72 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: I would give someone if I were the oddsmaker on 73 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: this one, I think I would give someone ten to 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: one odds at this point that Joe Biden is going 75 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: to run because ultimately, the look at the Federman effect, 76 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the reality is that the Democrats view it as our 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: team in power doing what the Democrat apparatus wants. It 78 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: does not matter. You could have a five year old 79 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: casting these votes or pushing these policies, signing these bills. 80 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: They don't care. And I know people will say, oh, 81 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: but what about independence and moderates, Buck, That's what really matters, 82 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: not the Democrat base, you know. And for independence and moderates, 83 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: the story's going to be a version of what it 84 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: was the last time, which is, look, they said he 85 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: was too old before. It's things have kind of muddled along. 86 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: The job's not done, YadA YadA, Trump has hit l 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what they're gonna or you know whomever, 88 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: This is what they're gonna say. And I think unfortunately 89 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: a lot of people now view it as they're not 90 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: voting for a candidate, they're voting for a team, and 91 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: team Democrat knows that the name recognition of Biden is 92 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: big as a bigger asset than any other candidate that 93 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: they could possibly put in his place. Just the Biden 94 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: name and the incumbency that he brings is more potent 95 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: for reelection or for the Democrat election than anyone else 96 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: that they could possibly put into the mix. So what 97 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: do we know about Democrats? Clay, First and foremost, they 98 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: want power, They want to win elections. What does that mean? 99 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: It means, like I've said for now two years, they'll 100 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: roll Joe Biden out in a wheelchair, you know, muttering 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: to himself. They do not look at fetterment. They don't care. 102 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: So that's why I think it's it's pretty clear at 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: this point, absent heaven forbid a real health change, that 104 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: would be something that they couldn't hide, that they couldn't 105 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: push through. How bad would the health change have to 106 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: be too? To be honest? I mean Fetterman one by 107 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: five and can't speak and immediately gets elected and has 108 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: to check himself into a hospital for months. I mean 109 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: they well, one of the realities of a president. One 110 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: of the realities of a president. You know, when you're 111 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: talking about somebody who's in their eighties, is now you're 112 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: just talking about someone's overall life expectancy and how long 113 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: they'll be able to continue in any capacity given the 114 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: health challenges of a person in their eighties, right, I mean, 115 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, eighties is you just look at look at 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: a chart. Eighties is very different from seventies four people. 117 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's now getting into into that realm where I 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: think it would be hard for them, Clay to answer 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: your question to suggest that he'll bounce back right to 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: think about Fetterman. They keep saying, oh, he'll be fine. 121 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: It's just this is just like a temporary thing. By 122 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: the way, he's not just going to be fine. They 123 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: don't know that. And the guy's in the hospital as 124 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: we speak. So he's only fifty three, right, So in 125 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, he could there's a plausible fact 126 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: out there that someone could argue, Okay, fifty three year 127 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: old guy can get healthy again in eighty year. An 128 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: eighty year old has a stroke. I don't think anybody 129 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: really believes that, you know, the future is gonna it's not. 130 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: The future can't be bright in terms of spending time 131 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: with family, but running the country. This is where this 132 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: is what we're talking about everybody, because I know people 133 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: are going to write in some people get frushed and say, hey, 134 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: you know my you know I run or my grandfather runs, 135 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, a company and he's eighty three and he's 136 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: fit as a fiddle. Well that's great, but you know, 137 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: the running a small business in your in your locality 138 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: is not being the president of the United States at 139 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: a time when everyone's talking about World War three breaking 140 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: out with a China Russia axis, Right, this matters? Well, 141 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: I saw I saw it. I thought this was good. 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: I flagged it. Nicky Haley floated. This was from a 143 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: Fox News poll that was released over the weekend. Buck 144 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: Do you remember Nicky Haley floated the idea of people 145 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: over the age of seventy five having to get a 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: mental competency test. Seventy seven percent of Americans are in 147 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: favor of it. Seventy seven percent, only twenty percent of pose. 148 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: And to me, and I'm curious if you would agree 149 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: the single biggest hurdle for Joe Biden winning re election 150 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four is his age, the fact that 151 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: he would be eighty two years old and that he 152 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: would finish at eighty six. Do you agree the number 153 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: one vulnerability to Biden is his age? I would say 154 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: that as a dependent variable because Donald Trump is how 155 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: old right now? That that's this is the issue. This 156 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: is the age number one for Biden. But to your point, 157 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: that's what I'm getting to. If Trump runs and he's 158 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: seventy eight, it takes age off the table. If you 159 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: have I'm not even gonna make this about a single 160 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: candidate who's obviously having a particularly strong week in the 161 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: media right now on the Republican side, Any Republican candidate 162 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: other than Donald Trump that is being seriously. I mean, 163 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: what Pompeo is late fifties, maybe mid late fifties. I 164 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: gotta check his age, but he's certainly quite a bit younger. 165 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley is fifty one, she's I mean, she's pretty 166 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: young for a present. I look, it's and I spend 167 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: a lot of time reading about I like to read 168 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: biographies of the Founders, and one thing that is so 169 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: striking when you're with the exception of Benjamin Franklin, all 170 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: of the founders were in their twenties, thirties, and forty yea, 171 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: all of them across the board. And we now have 172 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: a I'm not sure I pronounced her at a gerontocracy 173 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: where you have too many people who are too old 174 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: with too much power in the United States of America 175 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: right now. And that's not an agism thing, that say, 176 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: what are the capabilities of people to be energetically engaged 177 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: and to have their best wisdom, judgment, and performance in 178 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: their last decade or two of life, which is the 179 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: reality for people certainly in their eighties and really largely 180 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: in their mid to late seventies. And you know this 181 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: is we've never faced this before, because we've never had 182 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: so many people living and it's a great thing. It's fantastic. Right. 183 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: We all have members now who are living into their 184 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: eighties and their nineties, and that's all great. We're not 185 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: talking about just day to day life and whether people 186 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: can you know, be vibrant members of their families and 187 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: do great things their communities. We're talking about the commander 188 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: in chief. And if you have Donald Trump running against 189 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, the age thing becomes a non issue. Again. 190 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: That's just that's the way it's gonna play out. People 191 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: can disagree with it, but that's how it's gonna shake out. 192 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: You're right. It cancels out the single biggest vulnerability for 193 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: Joe Biden because I look, my parents, greatest humans I've 194 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: ever known. They're probably listening right now that your parents 195 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: are listening to Buck. My parents are seventy eight. They're 196 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: headed down to Florida right now. My parents could not remotely, 197 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: either one of them handle the responsibilities of being president 198 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: of the United States. They were the best parents on 199 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: the planet. They both had incredible lives. Seventy eight, in 200 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: my opinion, is too old for the president of the 201 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: Unit States. I just I don't think that, and and 202 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: Biden has made it worse, frankly because he hasn't been 203 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: a young seventy eight and a young eighty. So so 204 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: because of the respect in which I in which I 205 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: hold this audience, I would just say I was making 206 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: the case in twenty twenty that Joe Biden is too 207 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: old for the job based on his age. Now I 208 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: am open to the idea that Donald Trump is sharper 209 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: and in better shape for his age than Biden. I'm 210 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 1: open to that line. He is but right, But I 211 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: do have to be honest when I say that. Now 212 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: Trump has passed that threshold where I think, you know, 213 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: I can't say a Democrat is too old at seventy eight, 214 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: but a Republican is great at seventy eight, just because 215 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Democrats will do that stuff. But I think we have 216 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: to be honest about what we're drawing lines and what 217 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: we think is best for the country, because this really 218 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: is about what's best for the country, and that's supposed 219 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: to be with the election. With the election brings forth, 220 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: but I still believe it will very much be Joe Biden. 221 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: I think the Democrats do not care at all, and 222 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: I actually believe this really gets to it. I think 223 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: that the dream scenario for Democrats is that Joe Biden, 224 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: they push him through, they managed to do it, and 225 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: then he steps down one year in and Kamala as 226 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: his vice president, takes over the office and gets almost 227 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: a full term. That is their dream scenario. Here's what 228 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: I would ask everybody out there to contemplate. If Democrats 229 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: knew that Donald Trump was not going to be the 230 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: Republican nominee. Right, let's pretend that because we have the 231 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: advantage right now, we know who the Democrats are going 232 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: to put forward. There's not going to be eight or 233 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: nine different candidates fighting it out over the next eight months, 234 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: and you can't project. We know Joe Biden is their guy. 235 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: If Democrats knew that Trump were not the Republican and 236 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: he was not going to run as a third party, 237 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: is there any way on the planet that they would 238 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: nominate Joe Biden? I would submit to you. The answer 239 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: is no. They're putting Biden in because they want him 240 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: in a rematch against Trump. If they didn't get Trump, 241 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: they would be running for the hills terrified. Just think 242 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: about it. I want to talk to you about preborn 243 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: for a moment here because their mission is so important 244 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: and it's something that you can help them with day 245 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: after day. Young women who just think they have no options, 246 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: they're choosing abortion. They're doing so under durest They feel 247 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: alone and trap like they have no help. But there 248 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: are other options, there are resources to support them, and 249 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: the Preborn Pregnancy Clinics are one of the options out 250 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: there that really steps in and helps. Preborn has rescued 251 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: over two hundred thousand babies by helping young mothers with 252 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: one of the most difficult decisions they'll likely ever be 253 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: faced with, the decisions to give life to their baby 254 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: or to end it. Preborn seeks these women out before 255 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: they make that choice and introduces them to the life 256 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: growing inside them through a free ultrasound. It is because 257 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: of generous donations from you, the pro life community, that's 258 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: why this is possible. Once a young mother hears that heartbeat, 259 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: sees that precious life, most of the time, she will 260 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: choose life. Twenty eight dollars that's what an ultrasound costs. 261 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: One hundred and forty dollars provides five ultrasounds that could 262 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: be five babies who come into this world. Think about that. 263 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: Think about what that will mean for their families in 264 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: the future. Consider making such a gift to this nonprofit organization, 265 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: the Preborn Clinics. Using your cell phone, all you have 266 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: to do is dial pound two five zero and say baby. 267 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: That's pound two five zero, say baby. Or you can 268 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: go to their website preborn dot com slash buck, that's 269 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: preborn dot com slash b u c K one truth 270 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: revealed after another Clay Travis and Buck Sexton got folks 271 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: weighing in from across the country eight hundred two eight 272 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: two two eight eight two on our lives If you 273 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: want to join in on the action here on Clay 274 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: In Buck and let us get two? Do we wait? Wait? Clay, 275 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: who's first up in the line? I had it almost first. 276 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: First of all, my mom has already texted me and said, yep, 277 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: too old almost to Florida. I'm just waiting for my 278 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: dad to text me that he can still beat me 279 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: in an arm wrestling match and I better watch my 280 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: mouth something along those lines. But yeah, because he's seventy five, 281 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: James in Texas is up first. I believe James. What 282 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: you got for us? H Clay Buck? Thanks guys, play 283 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: my thoughts are exactly what you said or want to goo. 284 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: The Democrats don't care about their nominee nearly as much 285 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: as about who they're running against. They're planning on being Trump. 286 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: I think this is such a good point. If the 287 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: Democrats right now could pick the Republican nominee, they would 288 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: uniformly put Donald Trump in as the Republican choice. Now. 289 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: They would have done that in sixteen two and they lost. 290 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: But I do think it's worth considering what your opponent 291 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: would do. If they could set the parameters of the 292 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: election battle right, they would one billion percent slide Trump in. 293 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: That's why they're running Biden. I think that's I think 294 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: that's very much the case. James, go ahead, Yeah, No, 295 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: I totally agree. If the Santis gets the nomination and 296 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: you've got a younger, energetic guy, that would that would 297 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: make the Democrats scared. I think I think that's very 298 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: very likely. Thanks for calling in, James from Texas. Mike 299 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: in Alabama, Mike doesn't think age is the issue with Biden. Mike, 300 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Yeah? I don't think 301 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: age is the issue. I think the fact he's a 302 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: terrible president is the issue. I mean, don't you think 303 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: Mike that he might have been better twenty years ago. 304 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: Like Joe Biden is not a good president today. It's 305 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: seventy eight. But to be fair to Joe Biden, if 306 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: he had gotten elected president at fifty eight, I think 307 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: he would be infinitely better than he is now. Do 308 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: you think he would have, you know, shut down the 309 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: XL pipeline. I mean, leave the border's wide open. It 310 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what I mean. I think. I think Biden 311 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: is a follower, and I think the older you are, 312 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: the less likely you are to trust your own instincts, 313 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: and so he's being led. He's the trojan horse candidate. Yeah, 314 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll put I'll just put this out there, Clay. 315 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: I think that Joe Biden of twenty years ago would 316 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: have seemed like less of a an obvious policy soft 317 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: target to for you know, malevolent foreign actors for example. 318 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: It's a great bike putin. You know, I think putencies 319 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and he goes there's no executive to pull 320 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: the trigger in a way that matters here. So I'm 321 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: gonna go China too. I So, you know, because because 322 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: leadership at that level I think does matter. I think 323 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: world leaders of countries that are, you know, competing with 324 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: each other and are opposed to each other on many fronts. 325 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: I think that makes a difference, and that Joe Biden 326 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: of today just looks like a clown amen and the 327 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: idea that he could win again and be president until 328 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: he's eighty flipping six years old is just crazy. Natural 329 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: disasters feels like on some level the whole Biden presidency 330 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: has been one disaster after another. Are you prepared for 331 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: what might go wrong in the next couple of years 332 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden's presidency. You probably have car insurance, you 333 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: probably have home insurance, you probably have life insurance if 334 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: you got a family, and do you have food insurance? 335 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: Though you know you can't find baby formula out on 336 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: the shelves right now. How many times are you going 337 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: to the grocery store the past few years not been 338 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: able to find what you want. 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We'd get 347 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: in a lot of reaction to what is going to be. 348 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: I believe the story of twenty twenty three, the Republican 349 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: battle for the nomination, And again I think we can't 350 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: overlook how valuable it is that the Democrats are basically 351 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: showing us their hand. Right. It's like you're playing blackjack 352 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: out in Vegas, something I like to do, and if 353 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: you had the opportunity to know, hey, what are the 354 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: cards of your opponent, you could decide, hey, am I 355 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: gonna hit on sixteen? Am I gonna maybe a hit 356 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: on seventeen? If you know your opponents got an eighteen, 357 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: of course you would, even though the risk ordinarily you wouldn't. 358 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: Democrats are showing their heart, their cards. They're saying, we 359 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: are running Joe Biden. He's our guy, we are riding 360 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: him in twenty twenty four. To me, that is a 361 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: tremendous advantage for every Republican primary voter out there, becau 362 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: you know who your opponent is and be honest with yourself. Democrats. 363 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, James Clyburn down in South Carolina, he 364 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 1: said Trump is the guy for Republicans. He looked at 365 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: the field and he said, the only Democrat who's running 366 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: that he believed could beat Donald Trump was Joe Biden. 367 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: I think he was probably right. I don't think Bernie 368 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: Sanders would have won. I don't think Elizabeth Warren would 369 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: have won. I don't think Mayor Pete would have won. 370 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: I think the Democrats selected James Clyburn effectively the best 371 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: nominee to beat Donald Trump. That's what they did. They 372 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: had the advantage of knowing Trump was the opponent, and 373 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: James Clyburn basically said in the South Carolina primary, Boom, 374 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Biden's the guy. He's gonna beat Trump. We all have 375 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: the opportunity to beat Kingmakers. Now you me, every single 376 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: Republican primary voter knows that Joe Biden is the guy. 377 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: So I would say to all of you out there, 378 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: who is the guy who can beat Joe Biden. That's 379 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: who you should vote for. And we're gonna have a 380 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: variety of opinions. Doesn't mean that everybody has to agree 381 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: on who the right choice is. But I do think 382 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: we can't overlook what that opportunity is, and we have 383 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 1: to know how difficult it is going to be in 384 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: order to get past Joe Biden. And one thing that's 385 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: going to factor in here, Buck, is some of these 386 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: states now because of reshape post COVID, are like not 387 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: even competitive. Florida not competitive for Democrats anymore, Ohio not competitive. 388 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: Texas I don't believe remotely competitive. I think the red 389 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: got redder, the blue got bluer. And I saw this 390 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: quote that I wanted to share with you. Jordan Poyer 391 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: is a star safety for the Buffalo Bills. He is 392 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: a free agent, and on his Jordan Poyer podcast he said, 393 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: you know, basically, of course, I'm gonna look at what 394 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: the tax rates are right now. He's in New York 395 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: and he's like, I'd like to go somewhere that doesn't 396 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: take half of my money. And I thought it was 397 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: such an interesting discussion because more and more Americans now 398 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: recognize that they can do their jobs in a state 399 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: of their choice. And Buck, I don't know why any 400 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't know why every single person who could make 401 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: the choice wouldn't choose to live in Florida, Tennessee or 402 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: Texas for instance, in my home South, where you have 403 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: zero state income tax. The more money you make, the 404 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: more sense it makes. If you're a multi millionaire like 405 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Jordan poy or listen. You know a lot of people 406 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: ask me, oh, if it wasn't wasn't Buffalo, then where 407 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: would you go? You know, I kind of ponted the 408 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: question every once in a while. I'd love to go 409 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: to a state that doesn't take half of my money, 410 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: and that has nothing to do with the city or 411 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: the fit, nothing to do with any of that. I 412 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: would love to go to a place where they don't 413 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: take half of my money. It's crazy, you know, it's 414 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: crazy to me to have taxes work. You know, some 415 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: people will say, oh, you know, you're already making an 416 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: next amount of money where the taxes, even taxes played 417 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: big part in you know, all of our lives. You know. 418 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I think this 419 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: shows us is it used to be that in these 420 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: high tax states, they they had things that you had 421 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: to just grin and bear it, right, Yeah, if you 422 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: wanted to work in certain industries, I mean, if you 423 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: wanted to be taken seriously in Wall Street, for example, 424 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: or in Hollywood. There was a time go back to 425 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: the nineties where you basically they are always acceptance, but 426 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: you basically had city or you had to be in 427 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: Los Angeles like that was the So those cities, because 428 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: those are very, very enticing and very can be very 429 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: lucrative careers, those cities could afford to act like the 430 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: socialist redistribution machines that they are and have massive welfare 431 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: states blow to bureaucracies and enormous Medicaid budgets. By the way, 432 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: that's in the case of New York, which just blows 433 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: a huge hole through the budgets Medicaid. It's the bureaucracy, 434 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: and it's very important people who know when you think 435 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: think about paying for services, understand that in many cases, 436 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: I know the New York budget the best because of 437 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: my decades of living there. But you're paying for retirees 438 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: of the bureaucracy. You're actually not even paying for the 439 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: people who are keeping the trains moving now. You're paying 440 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: for people that retired ten years ago who were working 441 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: for the trains, and you're paying for them for their 442 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: for their families healthcare. You're paying for depending on the 443 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: specific union contract can be enormous, enormous expenses, a tide 444 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: to wall this. So in the case California, you had 445 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: something very similar, and now you have New York City 446 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: with a budget deficit. This just came out a few 447 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: days ago from the Comptroller Eric Adams. The mayor is 448 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: already saying, we got a big problem. You know, we 449 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: got a problem. It's worse than he thinks it will 450 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: be though. By twenty twenty seven, the budget deficit of 451 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: New York City could hit fourteen billion dollars, a fourteen 452 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: billion dollars shortfall in the budget. Now New York, you 453 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: will note, has less people by about two million and 454 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: maybe more like three million now then Florida and double 455 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: the budget of the state of Florida now. The only 456 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: way there are only two pathways, and this is very important. 457 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: There're only two pathways for a state like New York 458 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: California going forward. They change their ways because they simply 459 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 1: can't afford to do this stuff as a state government 460 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: that they've been doing or and this is why it's annoying, 461 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: and this is why everybody, that's why elections matter. Basically, 462 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: federal bailouts, federal bailouts for New York, California, Illinois. Now 463 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: they may not call it that, but that's effectively what 464 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: it will be, which means that you who live in 465 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: Tennessee or Oklahoma, or Texas or Florida, or you name 466 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: a red state with a large population, will effectively be 467 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: subsidizing the welfare states of dysfunctional dystopias in New York 468 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: and California via the federal government, the Treasury Department and 469 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: the irs. So this is where it's all heading. There's 470 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: not really a third option because Clay it is simply 471 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: unsustainable math as people leave, and it's the high earners 472 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: who are leaving New York, California and other blue states. 473 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: I think that's the big point. The high earners have 474 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: more flexibility and if you're paying I think it's thirteen 475 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: percent in state and local taxes. Now in California, let's 476 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: say you are fortunate enough to be a millionaire and 477 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: you can live wherever you want. Is California worth one 478 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year to you compared 479 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: to Texas, Florida, or Tennessee. And that's if you make 480 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: a million. If you're a ten million a year guy, 481 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: is it worth one point three million dollars directly out 482 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: of your pocket into the coffers of California. Increasingly, everyone 483 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: is voting with their feet in terms of what they 484 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: think about taxes. And I'm here to tell you when 485 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: I started to when I would travel out to LA 486 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: and I would get paid by Fox Sports for LA appearances, 487 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: I was not making very much money when I started 488 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: doing that, and I would look at what I yielded 489 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: versus doing a television hit at home compared to LA 490 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: because they would tax me on it, and I would 491 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, this is crazy. Like all 492 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing, it's actually more work for me because I'm 493 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: traveling all the way out to LA to sit in 494 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: a studio there, and they're taking thirteen or fourteen percent 495 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: more of my money because I took the time to 496 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: travel to LA. It's crazy. Well, the other part of 497 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: this that I think has has really been a turning 498 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: point for everybody is there there are a couple of things. 499 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: One everyone now knows in the post COVID era, your 500 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: state and local government really matters. It's not just the 501 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: federal government. It's not just the presidency and the Congress 502 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: that matters. The governor, your state legislature, and if you 503 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: live in a city or mayor, or you're a county 504 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: commissioner or whatever it may be, they can make your 505 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: life more difficult. They can even make your life miserable 506 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: under the wrong circumstances. And that's not the last time 507 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: that we're going to have an emergency where they can 508 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: do basically whatever they want. It will happen again. So 509 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: people have recognized that, which I think is a big 510 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: part of It's something that I certainly recognized about New 511 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: York City as a board and raised New Yorker. And 512 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: then beyond that, on the financial side, it's not just 513 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: that you're paying a lot in taxes. You know, one 514 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: thing that you'll hear from people when they try to 515 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: make the big case for like Sweden and the Netherlands 516 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: and you know whatever, Denmark, they'll say, well, we get 517 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: a lot, right, we get a lot for our taxes. Now, 518 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: by the way, those welfare systems are actually going to collapse, 519 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: but that's a whole other conversation. You know, they haven't 520 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: had them for that long and they're not going to 521 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: last that long, but at least they feel like they 522 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: get a lot for the taxes they pay, or that's 523 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: a broadly held perception that you'll hear. If you live 524 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: in New York City, you're walking around, you're saying, by 525 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: the way, you live in San Francisco, you live in 526 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you live in a bunch of these places. 527 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: You're saying to yourself, I'm paying to have like lunatic 528 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: drug addict, Vagrants screaming at me on the streets, demanding money, 529 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: following me around, people camping out in front of my home, 530 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: people urinating on my street corner in broad daylight. Not illegal, 531 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: by the way, in New York. This is stuff that 532 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: I saw people doing a heroin and broad daylight. The 533 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: streets are dirty, sanitations being cut. The cops aren't being 534 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: a respected and supported adequately to do their jobs effectively. 535 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: The prosecutors aren't actually locking up people who are a 536 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: threat to public safety. What am I getting for this 537 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: ten percent, twelve percent, maybe even thirteen percent that you're 538 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: paying in some of these states in addition to federal 539 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: tax That's a tough question to answer. I think a 540 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: lot of people are answering it with their feet. 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You know, 567 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion is a senator from West Virginia, which is 568 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: pretty remarkable, West Virginia. That a lot of wonderful people 569 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: from that great state listening to us. And I'm sitting 570 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: here saying, hold on a second. He's a Democrat. And 571 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: remember when the Democrats in an act of sheer spending lunacy, 572 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: we're trying to put forward a three trillion, really five 573 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: or six trillion because the sunset provisions ain't gonna sunset, folks. Okay, 574 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: once you start, once Democrats start spending money on a program, 575 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: then they keep spending money on that program. So it 576 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: was gonna be five or six trillion dollars or spending. 577 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: And he stopped. He started fourth that one and said 578 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: this is crazy. But then there was the Inflation Reduction Act, 579 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: which did not reduce inflation. It actually made inflation a 580 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: little bit worse. But it was just a political ploy 581 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: to got a spending bill passed at a time when 582 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: with high inflation and not take the political hit because 583 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: people are like, wait, hold on a second. If it's 584 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: the inflation reduction, eh, it reduces inflate. No, does not 585 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: reduce inflation. That's not true. Here is Maria Bartaromo asking 586 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: Senator Mansion, Hey, do you identify as a Democrat? Still 587 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: play twenty one? My main concern to all of you 588 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 1: and all of your viewers, My main concern is how 589 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: do we bring this country together? How do we make 590 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: it work? How do we make Democrats Republicans become Americans 591 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: again and not just party affiliates. This is what's happening 592 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: right now. We're pushing people further apart, making people take 593 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: a side, and then we're rewarding for bad behavior. Your 594 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: country has to be about America and coming together. Do 595 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: you still I'll be involved anyway? I can't. He'll be 596 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: involved anyway I can to help. I identify as an American. 597 00:32:54,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm an American through and through. Oh, come on, come on, Clay, 598 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: he identifies as an American. Well, yeah, we hope. So 599 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: you're a senator? Well his state. Donald Trump won by 600 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: thirty nine points. So Joe Mansion snuck across in eighteen 601 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: because he wasn't on the ballot in twenty. I think 602 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: if Joe Mansion had been on the ballot in twenty 603 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: he would have gotten absolutely filled and lost that seat. 604 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 1: I think he knows, and look, I've been on this 605 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: for a while. I think Joe Mansion knows that he 606 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: has a zero percent chance of winning as a Democrat 607 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: in West Virginia in twenty twenty four because whoever the 608 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: nominee is going to be for Republicans is going to 609 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: win by twenty five points plus maybe even more against 610 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden in West Virginia. I do not believe that 611 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: it's possible for any candidate like Joe Mansion or any 612 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: other Democrat to win when the Republican presidential candidate wins 613 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: by twenty five. It's just not going to happen. So Mansion, 614 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: I think what I think Mansion hoped buck was. I 615 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 1: think Mansion secretly hoped that Democrats would lose the Senate 616 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 1: and Republicans would take control of the Senate and then 617 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: he could switch and he wouldn't be responsible for changing 618 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: control of the chamber. And when that didn't happen. Now 619 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: he's kind of stuck in this role where he has 620 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: basically two options retire or become a Republican and try 621 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: to run as a Republican. I don't think he has 622 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: any other option to stay in the Senate. He could 623 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: run the president. Maybe that's why at this point you 624 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: and I should just run for president, right, I mean, 625 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 1: why not? Well, we're busy here. Everybody know what I mean, everyone, 626 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: everyone's getting in on this game. Um, I would say, 627 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion, the people of West Virginia need to elect 628 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: a different senator. This is this game of you don't 629 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: know which way he's gonna go, and he's kind of 630 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: a maverick or whatever. You know, this isn't a situation 631 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: where he's the best we can get in a purple state. Right, 632 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: this thing people will say, and I know people don't 633 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: like to hear this, but you know what's someone like 634 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: like a Susan Collins, for example, Is Susan Collins the 635 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: senator that you want that's gonna come through for you 636 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: in the clutch all the time as a conservative? No, 637 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: but in her home state, is that probably the best 638 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to do to get I mean, 639 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: you could argue it. You maybe you'll say no, but 640 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: you can make an argument that you know, Maine is 641 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, Maine is not Wyoming, right, Maine is not Texas. 642 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: But with Joe Mansion. As to your point about basically 643 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: a forty point Republican winning state with Trump the last 644 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: time or thirty eight points, right, Uh, why don't you 645 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: have a Republican senator does Why would you have it? 646 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't doesn't make sense to me. So 647 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: I think he doesn't really have a lot of options 648 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: to play at this point. But you know, he's very slick. 649 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm an American, Oh okay, won't say that he's a Democrat. 650 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: I believe he really hoped Republicans were going to take 651 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: the Senate and credit to Joe Mansion where it's deserved, 652 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: because this was important. He one hundred percent nailed the 653 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: fact that inflation was going to get out of control. Remember, 654 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden wanted to spend five more trillion dollars and 655 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: if Joe Manchin hadn't come out against it, we'd be 656 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: in infinitely worse shape economically than we are. I mean, 657 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: if they hadn't passed the inflation reduction at play do 658 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: we do. We have Republicans in control of the Senate, 659 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: and you know, we can't prove this one way or 660 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: the other. But he was wrong on that one. That's 661 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: cost eight hundred billion or whatever it was. But at 662 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: least he was right on the five trillion. I wish 663 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: West Virginia had been right and elected a Republican in 664 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. That would have helped to a great extent. 665 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: But you know, I was I was hearing over the 666 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: weekend that the Biden administration is wagging a finger at 667 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: China and saying, hey, you better not do anything to 668 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: make things harder for us in Ukraine. I would like 669 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: to address that. And the notion that we're we think 670 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: we're calling the shots would have comes to China and 671 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine. I don't think so. I don't think 672 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: we're calling the shots on China when it comes to 673 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: anything they're walking all over or the weak loser that 674 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is