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Speaker 2: We went on a road trip.

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Speaker 1: We drove down to d C. Yeah, I Drissi's Capital.

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Speaker 1: I DJed, let's let's not minimized my role. We went

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Speaker 4: We did Senator Kisten Gillibrand from New York. It's one

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Speaker 4: of my friends that I've known for about five to

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Speaker 4: just an incredible person. We've remain friends. She is a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a bit of trash maker.

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Speaker 4: Within three weeks, I kind of laughed when she said,

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Speaker 4: and I said, oh, yeah, okay, Senator, and she really

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Speaker 4: So I always get a little bit weird calling a

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Speaker 1: But she did when we interviewed her. She did wear

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Speaker 1: She had us in her dress. Actually, she had a

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Speaker 2: We talked about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's a few things that I don't want

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Speaker 4: She wants women off the sidelines. Don't talk about it,

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Speaker 1: And what I liked about our conversation was linking the

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Speaker 2: Easy softball question again. You were competitive squash player.

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Speaker 3: Maybe but not necessarily. I'm busy, but I'm busy doing

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Speaker 2: It was the invisible War.

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Speaker 3: And so it's just the rules of that particular contest

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Speaker 4: I think, no, I've had a lot of people tell

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Speaker 3: It's on your shoulders and it's on your shoulders and

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Speaker 4: and teach them to love, and teach them to be

446
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Speaker 4: open with their feelings. And that is also part of

447
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Speaker 4: the problem with the Me too movement. It's not teaching

448
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Speaker 4: young boys how to treat young girls.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, it's probably one of the good things about

450
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Speaker 3: the Me too movement because it's creating the conversation to

451
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Speaker 3: have those conversations.

452
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Speaker 2: And so my children, you know, they certainly the.

453
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Speaker 3: Fourteen year old has already had a lot of discussion

454
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Speaker 3: about what is consent, what does consent look like, what

455
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Speaker 3: does it feel like?

456
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Speaker 2: You know, what is a healthy relationship?

457
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Speaker 3: And they're teaching that in grade school, like fifth, sixth, seventh,

458
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Speaker 3: eighth grade is part of human development, it's part of health.

459
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Speaker 3: And so the best schools will try to create a

460
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Speaker 3: curriculum at least around what does consent look like, and

461
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Speaker 3: hopefully all of our schools around the country will begin

462
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Speaker 3: to talk about that appropriately for age appropriateness, but talk

463
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Speaker 3: about what is a healthy relationship. But you also have

464
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Speaker 3: to recognize boys are also going to be targeted and

465
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Speaker 3: will be.

466
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Speaker 2: Assaulted as well, so you have.

467
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Speaker 3: To make sure they understand that it's not okay for

468
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Speaker 3: someone to grab you, push you, touch you in a.

469
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Speaker 2: Way that you are not consenting to.

470
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Speaker 3: And so they have the same self confidence that you

471
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Speaker 3: want to give any young girl, Yeah that she she

472
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Speaker 3: she can define her limits herself in the same way

473
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Speaker 3: a young man should be able to find his limits himself.

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Speaker 1: I have to think for my son anyway, who's four

475
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Speaker 1: and yours are a little mine or ten and fourteen. Yeah,

476
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Speaker 1: and so thinking about how to you know, just raise

477
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Speaker 1: somebody who's expressive in terms of their emotions and being

478
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Speaker 1: able to sort of navigate the world.

479
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Speaker 2: You know, men and women obviously, but especially men. I

480
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Speaker 2: think you're you're right to reap to fact to me too,

481
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Speaker 2: is giving us a.

482
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Speaker 1: Chance to sort of reset the dialogue so that men's

483
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Speaker 1: so that everybody can have a conversation.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have to feel like they've have to

485
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Speaker 2: participate in that's sort of well.

486
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Speaker 3: One of the best videos I've ever seen was about

487
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Speaker 3: whether she wants a cup of tea?

488
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Speaker 2: And it's have you ever seen it?

489
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Speaker 3: So you'll have to look it up, but it's basically

490
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Speaker 3: making the comparison.

491
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Speaker 2: You know, if a woman, you know, weather one wants.

492
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Speaker 3: To have sex is going to be very similar to

493
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Speaker 3: whether one wants a cup of tea in this respect.

494
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Speaker 3: So if she's asleep, she doesn't want the tea, you

495
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Speaker 3: can't pour the tea down her throat. If she's passed

496
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Speaker 3: out because she drank too much, she doesn't really want

497
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Speaker 3: that cup of tea, and it doesn't matter that she

498
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Speaker 3: told you yesterday she really wanted the tea, so don't

499
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Speaker 3: don't pour it down her throat. So like, if you

500
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Speaker 3: it's really funny because like it just goes into all

501
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Speaker 3: these examples that you know she wanted a cup of

502
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Speaker 3: tea earlier in the evening, but she just told you

503
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Speaker 3: she doesn't want the cup of tea.

504
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Speaker 4: When she was falling down the stairs, I thought it

505
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Speaker 4: was not appropriate to give her a cup of tea.

506
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Speaker 4: I love the fact that you're trying so hard to

507
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Speaker 4: not drop the F bomb as well, because I know

508
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Speaker 4: you so well and that does come out from time

509
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Speaker 4: to time.

510
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Speaker 3: Very hard not to say it publicly anymore, And I

511
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Speaker 3: also try really hard never to swear about my kids

512
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Speaker 3: because they.

513
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Speaker 2: Are sponges and they will repeat everything that you say.

514
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Speaker 4: Clearly, you don't think I'm a sponge because you know, no,

515
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Speaker 4: you pensity sometimes sometimes, but that's you know.

516
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Speaker 2: I have played Tonys with Renee. Jason Biggs has play

517
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Speaker 2: tons with Renee. Chris Everard obviously in Petco. You have

518
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Speaker 2: also played tennis with Renee.

519
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Speaker 1: First of all, I want to hear what that is like,

520
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Speaker 1: because I can tell you what it's like for me,

521
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Speaker 1: and I'm decently good at tennis.

522
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Speaker 2: For me, it's an experience where somebody hits.

523
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Speaker 1: The ball within a foot of the lines every time

524
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Speaker 1: you're locked in, and you're like, I'm doing pretty well

525
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Speaker 1: in the second start thinking that.

526
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Speaker 2: Ten seconds later you know he'll over and you hit

527
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Speaker 2: the ball ten feet down.

528
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Speaker 3: So I think playing Renee is pure joy because she

529
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Speaker 3: hits the ball back to every single time. She's not

530
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Speaker 3: only a human backboard, but she also knows your limits.

531
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Speaker 3: So you know she's not gonna go to the line

532
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Speaker 3: to the line to line because she knows, well, I

533
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Speaker 3: won't get to the second one.

534
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Speaker 2: I get to the first one, but I won't make

535
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Speaker 2: the second one.

536
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Speaker 3: So she's she's very cognizant of whoever she's playing with

537
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Speaker 3: and what our abilities are, I think, and she's very

538
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Speaker 3: kind and the way she plays, yeah, she's very patient

539
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: and does she coach you. Yeah, anytime I'm getting something

540
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: fundamentally wrong, She'll just say, yeah, I just watched it

541
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Speaker 3: two seconds longer. I was like, oh, yeah, that's all

542
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Speaker 3: I need to do. So she's very perceptive. She can see,

543
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Speaker 3: you know, whether your weight's on the right foot, she

544
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Speaker 3: can see how you're you know, she sees everything. She's

545
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Speaker 3: a real player.

546
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Speaker 1: Here's the second part of this question, because Renee is

547
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Speaker 1: dying to talk.

548
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Speaker 4: No, No, I just want to let everybody know that

549
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Speaker 4: consensus of patience my my tennis skills. But that is

550
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Speaker 4: not one of my patients. Is not my skill.

551
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if she's playing just with somebody she likes

552
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Speaker 3: and it's not a match, just delighted to be patients

553
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Speaker 3: with those.

554
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Speaker 2: She's great to play with, and she has beautiful strokes.

555
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Speaker 3: And I also like playing with her because I watch

556
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Speaker 3: her hit the ball and I try to emulate it.

557
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Speaker 3: So anytime I'm getting my motion a little wrong on

558
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Speaker 3: the forehand or my server volleys out quite right, I

559
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Speaker 3: can just watch how and I'll ask her, I like,

560
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Speaker 3: can you just do that three more times? And I'll

561
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Speaker 3: watch her and I'll watch her and I'll watch her.

562
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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I can try to copy that.

563
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Speaker 3: So it's like it's a it's a built in lesson

564
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Speaker 3: and it's so oh.

565
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Speaker 2: I know, I feel like people would be paying for

566
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Speaker 2: the privilege that I get to just have totally. I mean,

567
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Speaker 2: you're lucky that I ever got to play with her ever.

568
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: So okay, So here's the second part of the question.

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Speaker 1: And Renee's dying to jump in, but I'm not gonna

570
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Speaker 1: let her yet because she has a philosophy that she

571
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Speaker 1: can see into people's souls when she plays with them,

572
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Speaker 1: and I think that's true. Sheagns me in the second

573
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Speaker 1: what do you think she will say about you in

574
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Speaker 1: terms of your personality, your soul having played with you

575
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Speaker 1: before we let her.

576
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Speaker 3: Think, I think she would see that I try really

577
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Speaker 3: hard and that I never give up, and I don't

578
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Speaker 3: my working hard.

579
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Speaker 2: I think those are probably three things you would see.

580
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Speaker 4: Doggedly determined, Yes, dogged lyad doggedly determined. She's a bit

581
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Speaker 4: of a backboard. Actually, I try hard. There's no question

582
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Speaker 4: that there's the ball. We Usually when I play with

583
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Speaker 4: people that are okay, I usually have to bring a

584
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Speaker 4: lot of balls. But I dine with the Senator. It's

585
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Speaker 4: like it's like three or four balls and then we're good.

586
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Speaker 4: And she said she likes to make a lot of shots,

587
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Speaker 4: So I'm thinking like she's the opposite of you, actually, Caitlyn.

588
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: Caitlyn gets in about three ball rallies and then decides

589
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Speaker 4: she's going to charge the net and try and hit

590
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Speaker 4: a winner, whereas you are, you are absolutely trying to

591
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Speaker 4: hit the fifty balls in a row, Whereas Caitlyn knows

592
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Speaker 4: that she can't hit fifty in a row, so she

593
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Speaker 4: just thinks she's going to hit a winner on everything.

594
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Speaker 3: I like to hit fifty in the row because if

595
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Speaker 3: i only play for like forty five minutes, I'm trying

596
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Speaker 3: to get a good workout and I want to get

597
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: my form down, so and hitting the ball right means

598
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Speaker 3: you not only have to swing properly.

599
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Speaker 2: But you got at your footwork goods.

600
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Speaker 3: So a huge if you can hit fifty balls in

601
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Speaker 3: a row, like you've just crushed that workout, like there's

602
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Speaker 3: there's literally.

603
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Speaker 2: You're probably dripping from top toe head to taut. You're

604
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: totally right, that is completely right everything that everyone just said.

605
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Speaker 2: I do not play that way at all.

606
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Speaker 1: I'm like a Maverick lunatic, like here's but you liked

607
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Speaker 1: it a winner, of course I do.

608
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll be flashing out particularly the net. Yeah,

609
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: I want to finish.

610
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: Then I'm a certain value or just unfortunately is a

611
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: bid you know, Retriever's body. But that makes me feel

612
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: like your favorite players in history, and tell me if

613
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Speaker 1: I'm right wrong, Borg around, just Sanchez, Amanda Kutzer.

614
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: Like where when you watched tennis.

615
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Speaker 3: Maybe as a kid, maybe when you were so as

616
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Speaker 3: a kid, so I'm fifty one, So as a kid,

617
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Speaker 3: I wanted to be Chrissy ever like that. She was

618
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 3: the epitome of women's tennis when I was starting, And

619
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Speaker 3: so a lot of my shots are just like hers,

620
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: like because that was the training at.

621
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Speaker 4: The time, true to.

622
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Speaker 3: Like you know today's forehands. You do this and you

623
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Speaker 3: end up way up here. Chrissy Evert was sideways.

624
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Speaker 4: And here every time, I'm just I'm just noting that

625
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: that she's off out of her chair demonstrating her full hand.

626
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Speaker 2: The senator has given us a demo.

627
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Speaker 4: Can we have the back end up with?

628
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I did the shoehander and I'm just way

629
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Speaker 3: down and I do that just like Christy. It was

630
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: so that was how you And also that was the

631
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: state of the art teaching at the time. You have

632
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 3: to recognize that's how we were taught. Many tennis camp

633
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: you went to at that age, you were taught those swings.

634
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Speaker 2: And I was an instructor, So I how did we

635
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: miss this up until now?

636
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 3: So I did as Yeah, yeah, I did tennis camps

637
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 3: as a kid, So I was an instructor. So I

638
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: was a kid going to camp. And then when I

639
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: was in college, I became a camp counselor. So I

640
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: worked at the ADIDASP tennis camp at Dartmouth College before

641
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: I started at Dartmouth, and that was a blast. And

642
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: I was an assistant pro at the local tennis club

643
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: near my house today and so I ran the kids program.

644
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 3: So I taught tennis, but we only taught in the

645
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: way Chrissy played. And so now that I when I

646
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: find a coach now as an adult, they helped improve

647
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 3: my swings by making a little more dynamic and fall

648
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: through more and and I do that, but she will

649
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: remind me like fall through more, and I was like, oh, yeah, right,

650
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: because I was taught the Christie Ever.

651
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: And how do you like as a coach?

652
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Speaker 3: What was your sort of discipline fun patient. Don't tolerate

653
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: terrible swings, make them do it again. Like I can't

654
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: stand coaches who let you swing poorly, Like when I

655
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: watched my little.

656
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 4: Yes, I can't. You need to have a conversation with

657
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Speaker 4: coaches about that.

658
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Speaker 2: I know because so so I watched Henry take his

659
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: tennis lessons.

660
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Speaker 3: He's only ten, and when his coach doesn't correct his swing,

661
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: I literally get up to say, Henry, come.

662
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: Over here, I correct a swing for him.

663
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Speaker 3: I just pulled him off because there's like eight kids

664
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Speaker 3: on the court, So like I just say, Henry, I

665
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: give a little guys. But we had a really good

666
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: time this Florida. There's a public court right near us

667
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: when we go visit my mom in Fort Lauderdale, and

668
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: it had an amazing kids program and it's literally just

669
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: a public park near where her condo is in Florida.

670
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: And so there was terrific coach there this year when

671
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: we went down, and Henry was taking lessons and THEO

672
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: is taking lessons and you know her advice when she

673
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: goes because there's one secret to tennis. And so the

674
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: kids took a couple lessons before I was able to

675
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: join them because I had work, I had votes or something,

676
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: and I come down and they're like, don't tell mommy

677
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: the secret.

678
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: Don't tell me the secret, because they wanted to have

679
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: this advantage over me.

680
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: I was like to be here.

681
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the secret courses watched the ball, and so

682
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: to tell it to as a secret to a ten

683
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: year old a fourteen year old, it really helps because

684
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: when they do mess up their strokes, it's almost always because.

685
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: They're literally not watching the ball.

686
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: And so this one obvious coaching tool was fantastic for

687
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: my children.

688
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 2: And so she would only ask did you watch them

689
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: all that time?

690
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: No?

691
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: I didn't see it. Did you see the ball this time?

692
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

693
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah I did. That's why it was so good.

694
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 3: So it was a really good fundamental and she was

695
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: just really good at the fundamental. So I then the

696
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: next day took a lesson with her so she could

697
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: work on my fundamentals a little bit, which was a blast.

698
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: Now, sadly you've now you're injured currently because.

699
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: We plant fascia tear.

700
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm supposed to wear this book boot for six weeks.

701
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: You're not ideal. Well, I'm not walking im Okay, we're

702
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: trying to get well, because you know I only need

703
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: to wear when I'm walking.

704
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: Oh that's true, you did text me, and so I'm

705
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: quiet on it, so sadly, here tell it.

706
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: You can tell the story.

707
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: So I was so excited.

708
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: I found a coach that that was really good, and

709
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: we were having our first lesson me the coach and

710
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: a friend who was about my level, and I'm playing

711
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: as hard as I possibly can, as well as I

712
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: possibly can, and within an hour, I'm like, my both

713
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: my feet are screaming at me, but one foot is

714
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: screaming more, and so I stopped playing. I was like,

715
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: I need to I'll do some serves, but I can't

716
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: do any more running. And I just thought I pulled it,

717
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: and so I rested for two weeks and I just

718
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: didn't I didn't run on it, and I just took

719
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: it easy. But I went to pilates and I went

720
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: to softball practice, and I played tennis two weeks later,

721
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: and it was sore, but it wasn't as screaming, but

722
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, it's it's just still sore. Continued with

723
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: the flies and softball and not getting better. Four weeks later,

724
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: and then I went to a pediatrist and I said,

725
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: we need an.

726
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: MRI and wait, wait you bet I was your pediatrists.

727
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: Me in a minute over She's like, yeah, you pulled

728
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: your plant or fashion doctor stoves.

729
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: Yes, And I said, Renee.

730
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: What is this? That was your christ tonight. What is this?

731
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Yes, my foot It was the muscle right under the heel.

732
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: Then I got a picture and she sent me the

733
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: planter by shitest picture I did.

734
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: Send her it's under your heels like a.

735
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: Ball, yes, in and not it and so she said ice,

736
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: which I did. And so all the stuff I was

737
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: doing because she told me to really helped. So I

738
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: was elevating, I was icing, I wasn't running or walking.

739
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: I was had you walk, but I wasn't running, and

740
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: I just was assuming it was a poll.

741
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: But unfortunately I got the a marine.

742
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: It was a tear. So now I'm told I've got

743
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: to be in this boot for six weeks. So, but

744
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: when you recover playing, she's coming back.

745
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: She's going to come and play with me, coming back here.

746
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: And I'll start playing with that coach again.

747
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: Great, because I really loved playing tennis and clearly it's

748
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 3: it's one of the best workouts you could ever have.

749
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: And you're giving the gift of tennis to your kids. Well,

750
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: so Henry likes that THEO is now a squash player.

751
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: So they've both been exposed to tennis's Henry's not been

752
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: exposed to squash yet, but we I THEO took lots

753
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: of tennis lessons in tennis camp every summer is whatever

754
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: you can do. But I exposed him to squash about

755
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 3: four years ago, and he's it's always about the coach.

756
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: Squash so much good. He just loved the coach. So

757
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 3: he loved the sport. And we've not found a great

758
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: coach for them in DC.

759
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: It's about the coach.

760
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: I mean, when we're upstate, we have, you know, the

761
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: local coaches, but they're not as they haven't they haven't

762
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: and there's been no you find one coach a lifetime.

763
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: And so what I had in Aggie Kurtz was that

764
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: coach of a lifetime. She was just such an inspiring

765
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: coach that she made me want to play squash because

766
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: she was the squash coach.

767
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: It's so true because I tell that to people that

768
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: ask me often about well how do I get my

769
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: kid interested or what's really important? I said, well, you

770
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 4: know you're young. It's really important to have a coach

771
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: who's super enthusiastic as well, because I have.

772
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: And she's you in the right way. Like you need

773
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: a coach that inspires you to leave it all in

774
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: the court.

775
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: Yep, and takes and makes it fun, especially when they're young. Yeah,

776
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 4: it's really important. And my coach was super disciplined, great

777
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 4: was strokes, but he was really fun and he was funny,

778
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: and he used to drive us to like country tournaments,

779
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: coach country tournaments.

780
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Fun. So well, when I was young, our coach

781
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: when I was in Albany, one of our coaches. In

782
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: the summer, he would take us on trips in my

783
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 3: mother's station wagon. So we'd not only play the other

784
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: teams around the Capitol region, but we'd take a day

785
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: trip to Boston or something. And so he made it

786
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: really fun. And so all summer all I would do

787
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: is play tennis because my coach was fun.

788
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: So you are running for re election this year?

789
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: This is a this is an election your are you

790
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: going to be taking your rackets on the campaign?

791
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: Drip? Like?

792
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: Is this part of your can you do that now?

793
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: But I can play, you know when I'm home, Like

794
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: you're in Oneana and then here's yeah, and then like

795
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 3: a little hit with a pro. Yeah.

796
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: It's actually because you've got zero time in the day

797
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: when you're doing this.

798
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: It's yeah, and you have to find a player to

799
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 3: play with you at six am, and I like next

800
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: to zero players want to play.

801
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: With That's actually what happens to us when I'm ever

802
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: in a city or a town or something with the Senator.

803
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: I want to play tennis, she goes, I'd love to,

804
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: but you can.

805
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: Have to play six She's like Stephan grow Sometimes I

806
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: can play after I bring the kids to school. So

807
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: it's really got to be be a four after and

808
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: that's the most awkward time for everybody.

809
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: Sixam's too early, and eight thirty am is too late.

810
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: You're throwing the needle there. Yes, thirty for me, So

811
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: you and I played eight thirty. That's when we played.

812
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: When I don't when I don't have a hearing, that's

813
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: too early. My hearing is a ten I could do

814
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: an eight thirty tennis. So I've got a great idea.

815
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: Why don't we send Renee on the road on the

816
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: campaign trail like Hunter s Thompson just play tests. Yeah, yeah,

817
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: instead of she does have his day job. But I

818
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: know that she.

819
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: Depends on the time of the year because I could

820
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 4: fit it into my schedule.

821
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just saying she's available, Okay, it's good to know.

822
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: When's the election one time, No, November, first week November, all.

823
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 4: Right, so I'm pretty available. Off to September. I'm usually

824
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: off to pretty good after the USI and soon.

825
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

826
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you've got to coach trade with if you want to.

827
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

828
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: But but so I'm gonna be really it's six am.

829
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 4: Might be a little tough for me, but I'll do

830
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: it for you.

831
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

832
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: Well, it can also play at the end of the day,

833
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: but that's like eight thirty or nine.

834
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 4: That's usually when I like to have a glass of wine, yeah,

835
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 4: or tequila if we're honest. Let's keep that to myself.

836
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: Senator. We're gonna lose you soon to a vote.

837
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a couple more minutes. They're gonna call

838
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: at eleven, but it lasts for fifteen minutes. So so

839
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: you like just wondering there you can just you just

840
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: you don't. You just need to be there within the

841
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: first actually twenty because they hold it open but with

842
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: your boot.

843
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'll leave it. I can leave in five minutes.

844
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: We can have a few more minutes. We're I'm done

845
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: with all the questions only unless you have any more.

846
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: And the only thing I want to get is a

847
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: shot of you both with a polarid for love and

848
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: you can keep it.

849
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can think picture of Oh that's so cool. Yeah,

850
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: should we do it?

851
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: We don't have to wait to like like look it out? Fine, No,

852
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: you have.

853
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: A physical tangible. You can put it on a little

854
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: next to what I assume as a child's illustration of it.

855
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are old pieces of Henry, but I'll get more.

856
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: So he's he he used to be.

857
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: A very artist, is quite the honest. He could maybe

858
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: do some day New York.

859
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: Will be an art intern for Yeah, exactly when older.

860
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: Before before we're done, who's your favorite plan?

861
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 2: Now? Are you watching any anybody resident?

862
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: And that's a little tough for you because you're a

863
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 4: little busy.

864
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you had to people.

865
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: Serena is pretty amazing. So just watching Serena and she's

866
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 3: issue in New York or she's a New Yorker?

867
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: Isn't she know she's born in California? You're rotten?

868
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: Correct?

869
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: Grew up in l A and now lives in Florida,

870
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: so is great to watch. I love watching him, but

871
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: I don't follow it as well, So I don't know

872
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: a lot of up and coming players at all. Because

873
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: I might catch like a few matches during Wimbledon, maybe

874
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: one match during the French joke and if I happened

875
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: to be watching TV when it's on.

876
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: So I just don't.

877
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't have enough time to watch real

878
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: tennis as often as I like.

879
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: I'll definitely try to make it at.

880
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: Least one US Open when when the World Team Tennis

881
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 3: travels around the country, that's kind of fun.

882
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: You can sometimes grab a match here there. Yeah, you've

883
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: got a good local team now, the New York Empire, Yeah,

884
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: getting I'm going to try to catch one of the

885
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: matches this summer.

886
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 4: Yet of the Washington Castle swhich is even closer.

887
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: Well, if it's a vote day, I can uh. I

888
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: can see New York Empire already.

889
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: Check their schedule.

890
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: They're going to be in Washington twice and one of

891
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 3: them is a vote day that I'm here, so I

892
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: might be able to actually watch it.

893
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: Look at you, I checked. I I love watching tennis.

894
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: I just don't have a great deal of time. But

895
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: that team tennis is really fun for someoneh's busy.

896
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Is the fact that you're working on your stroke and

897
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: checking schedules of its pretty good, she told me last.

898
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 3: Time, one of the last he's at the local public course,

899
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: the local public courts, and he's really nice and he's

900
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 3: just as he's got a day job.

901
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 2: He's he's in government.

902
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: I think he works at Social Security, like he's a

903
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 3: real job. But on the weekend he's a former college player,

904
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: and so on the weekends he teaches three five to

905
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: four point zero practice group. And so I'm trying to

906
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: get good enough so I could be in that group

907
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: and feel like I'm not slacking.

908
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: Well, I highly doubt that you'll be slacking, Yeah, because

909
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: you will be slacking.

910
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I got injured right when I was supposed

911
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: to go. I was supposed to I had a spot

912
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: in the clinic and everything, she.

913
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: Said, Victor victory. I'm hoping that the foot will be better.

914
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: We'll play in July and then we take it on

915
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 4: the road.

916
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, take it on the road.

917
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: Get you reelected, and then you're gonna be ready for

918
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: that three five clinic.

919
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, good plan.

920
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to get you to the four.

921
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm I am.

922
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: It's three point five four, so it's perfect.

923
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: I've watched the four point oh to four point.

924
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: Five try to know I would need to improve to

925
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: really play their level.

926
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: Oh wait, but let's get this on the record. I

927
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 4: you the best female center.

928
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: I don't know.

929
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: There is one other that's quite good, and that's Shelley

930
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: Moore Capito. She's quite good, and I don't know if

931
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: we actually played a match, she might beat me.

932
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: I don't score that well. I'm really great practice, so terrific.

933
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 3: Down to well now because she's on my softball team

934
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: and so she is my third baseman.

935
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: I need her to.

936
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: Be And what's your play at the best at all times,

937
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: I'm pitcher and left fielder, so I do two positions.

938
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: We have two pictures, which.

939
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: Is awesome, and so I usually pitch a few innings

940
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: and then I do outfield a few innings and we

941
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: all feel very good about it.

942
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: Amazing.

943
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: So the softball is fun, and this softball match we

944
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: do play raises awareness for young survivors of breast cancer.

945
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 3: And so if you're under forty and you're listening to

946
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: this just know that you two can get breast cancer.

947
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: So not only self exam is really important, but just

948
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: making sure you're really aware that you are vulnerable, and

949
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: so we raise awareness. We play for survivors. I'm playing,

950
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 3: I'm playing for my girlfriend. You just survived breast cancer.

951
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 3: You going to Alexander Rand one of my best friends

952
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 3: from high school, and she she has survived, so we're

953
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: very I'm very proud.

954
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: Of her, and so it's really fun.

955
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: And so the game, if anybody wants to come, it's

956
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: gonna be June twenty first. It's in Washington, DC at

957
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: Watkins Elementary School, and we play the DC Press Score

958
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: and they're all typically ten to twenty to thirty years

959
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: younger than us, so they are faster, but we tend

960
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: to be more competitive.

961
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 4: Do you think that there's any pot of than that

962
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: wants to maybe let you have a little bit.

963
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: Of ano may beat us last time?

964
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: Like if we've played ten games, this is the tenth.

965
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: I think we've only won three times all at of

966
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: the nine that we've had, this will be our tenth,

967
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: so we don't win.

968
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 4: Very people like you she would have been playing, but last.

969
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: Last year it was only one. Oh so it's not

970
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: like we got crushed. I mean it was close and.

971
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 4: There was absolutely no offense from real team. That's a yes.

972
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: That's not true. I hit the zero very far zero,

973
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: I know zero. But we had a good offense. We

974
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: just didn't score, so there's not no offense.

975
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 4: It's about scoring, it's about winning.

976
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: And that's it for this EPISO of the Racket Magazine podcast.

977
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs.

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Speaker 1: Our co host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music

979
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,120
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980
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981
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,319
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982
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,160
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