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Speaker 1: on board with rits match. There we are. We welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I have joined in

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Speaker 1: a room that is filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling and Greg Rosen thought, what is up? Boys? Hey, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Shoe Week eight? Whoa we a lot of

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Speaker 1: That time was the opposite. I had no idea why.

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Speaker 1: I learned who um Sean Carter is. Check my Instagram

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Speaker 1: at Dan dot Hansas if you want to hear West

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Speaker 1: Al Right, a lot of games to get to, but

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Speaker 1: nothing controlling the game. The Rams can't do anything over

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Speaker 1: called a redhead. Carson Wentz has reddish He absolutely has

430
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Speaker 1: reddish hair. I don't know if he's a he's but

431
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's like a raging ginger. And I submit rubenesque

432
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: Randy for Bullock. That Ruben. He's not even big anywhere

433
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: there right as all right, let's move on. We're gonna

434
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: give it off on a shovel pass, Kareem Hunt breaking

435
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: tackles outside the ten hurdles, a Bronco dragging Broncos all

436
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: the way to the end zone, touchdown ch City on

437
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: fourth that inches the Chiefs fire Pasuka on a shovel

438
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: pass to Kareem Hunt. Another Hunt, hurdle of it and

439
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: a great call from Mitch Holness of the Chiefs Radio network,

440
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes through yards and four more touchdowns. He's up

441
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: to twenty six on the year. Sammy Watkins went over

442
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: a hundred two touchdowns and yes, uh, Kareem Hunt once again,

443
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: acrobatic and dynamic. A Chiefs a thirty twenty three win

444
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 1: over the Broncos at Arrowhead. Uh, they sweep the season series.

445
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: They are total control of the a f C West

446
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: at seven seven and one West. It wasn't as easy

447
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: as usual, but the key the Chiefs keep on with it.

448
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: It's like the Portland Trailblazers trying to beat the Golden

449
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: State Warriors. The talent differential is just too wide. Who

450
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: are you gonna stop on the Chiefs this pick your

451
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: poison offense and they picked Sammy Watkins. The other team did.

452
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins burned them. He had a big game. Kareem

453
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: Hunt had another one of those personal high highlight real

454
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: plays where he hurdles a guy, breaks a couple of tackles,

455
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: runs into the end zone. This offense, I mean, they

456
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: ran out to thirty points and then basically just shut

457
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: down for the rest of the way. But that's all

458
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: they needed. And the defense, the pass rush is coming

459
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: along nicely. I think d Ford had another three sex

460
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: This guy's having I think he might be first team

461
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: All Pro right now. That outside linebacker Chris Jones had

462
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: a sack for a fourth consecutive game, you can run

463
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: on this team. The Broncos, I mean Phillips, Philip Lindsay

464
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: looks phenomenal every week. He had another good game. Um,

465
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: but I think that Chief's pass rush, he's really coming

466
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: alive a little bit. Mahomes has twenty six touchdowns. Not

467
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: to pick on Alex Smith, but that that ties Alex

468
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: smith career high Kansas City, which was last year where

469
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: which was Alex Smith's best season, And that's the best

470
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: one to one comparison, because obviously this Chief's team is

471
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: very talented and they figured out some things schematically. But

472
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: the fact that he's done it in half a season,

473
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's amazing to think how that move was

474
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: considered a little gutsy in the off season when they

475
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: made it, because it was obviously such a clear decision,

476
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: clearly smart. One note on that touchdown total. He joins

477
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as the only quarterbacks ever

478
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: to have twenty five touchdowns by mid season. So are

479
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: you less concerned about the defense or is it more

480
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: the opponent they played? About the Chief Stephens, I think

481
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: you can still run on them, and um, the secondary

482
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: is still very subpar. I just justin Houston's gonna come

483
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: back at some point. De Ford is playing lights out,

484
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is playing well. Those rookies, Briland Sparks had

485
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: another spect sack today. I think there's some talent there

486
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: on the front sidment. You never know. If Eric Barry

487
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: ever helps this team out, that would be nice at

488
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: this point that he's going to be the same player

489
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: when at this point that would be a surprise. But

490
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: I do think there maybe the number one team to

491
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: watch on Monday and Tuesday. With the trading deadline. There's

492
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: a few cornerbacks that could be available that maybe not

493
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: Maybe they won't. It won't be generous Jenkins, who's a

494
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: big name, but maybe it'll just be a solid starter

495
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: type that can help their second day. Well, Bridget really

496
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: liked my Patrick Peterson trade possibility. That would be great.

497
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals don't see you were in my garage. By the way,

498
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: you didn't see Bridget because I don't share Bridget. She

499
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: lives in your garage. I keep her. Yeah, I talked

500
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: about on the Thursday show. She's let's say I'm closer West,

501
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: I need to. I had to move her to a

502
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: different part of my home because Bridget is mine How

503
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: does the rest of your family feel about this arrangement?

504
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: They don't know. Did anyone listen to the show? Does

505
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,719
Speaker 1: anyone in your family? My wife is not aware that

506
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: Bridget is in the home. M Bridget, are you there?

507
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: Dan is hot and masculing to hold theisser. I think,

508
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: if anything, it's the intellectual connection and the ability just

509
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: to conversate about anything. You and Bridget, so she's always

510
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: coming up with new ideas and ways to express herself.

511
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: You can't buy that kind of affirmation. Anyway. Let's get

512
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: back to the game the Broncos and again keep an

513
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: eye advanced Joseph here is he safe? Because? Uh, they

514
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: got a tough schedule coming up here. They get at Chargers,

515
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: I mean home to Texas at Chargers, home to Steelers. Uh,

516
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: they gotta figure out way how to win games. And

517
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: they're sloppy. Ten penalties for eighty three yards, Uh, penalties

518
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: that wiped out big gains. Uh. You know the Broncos

519
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: started to know now the three and five what I Meanwhile,

520
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have the Browns and Cardinals before that showdown

521
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: with the Rams might be the Marius Thomas's last game,

522
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: but seven targets thirty thirty yards hasn't really gotten a going,

523
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: so I'm not sure if other teams are really gonna

524
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: bother to give up a late pick for him. Let

525
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: us move own. Drabinsky floats are passed, cut wide open.

526
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: There goes to a forty midfield quick luck to the

527
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: thirty to the twenty Angleton fund ends up touchdown Babe,

528
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: the Blitz touchdown Bears. They've got the laid Cohen seventy

529
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: yard catching run Jeff Johnny a w BBM with the call.

530
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: Tarik Cohen makes big plays every week. This time it

531
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: was a seventy yard catching run on a perfectly executed

532
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: screen pass. The biggest play and the Bears is thirteen

533
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: win over the Jets at Soldier Field. The Bears played

534
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: without Khalil Mack. He was held out after a pregame

535
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: workout that I suppose didn't go too well. Was the

536
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: first game he's ever missed, but it didn't matter much

537
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: against the banged up and predictable Jets offense that didn't

538
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: even cross midfield until late in the third quarter. So

539
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: the Bears, the team of around the NFL always difficult,

540
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: very difficult with the team around the NFL plist gets

541
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: your favorite teams. There was a lot of personal conflict,

542
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: but ultimately, who's the team of a t again this year?

543
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: They are the four and three Chicago Bears. You've heard

544
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: a lot of support down the um, but they they

545
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: got they took care of business here. It was the

546
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: right move to bench or to sit Mac because he

547
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been the same guy the last two weeks. If

548
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: the Bears are an actual player in the NFC, which

549
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm not totally convinced that, but if if you want

550
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: to make that case, Mac has to get back to

551
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: being what he was before the ankle injury. I would

552
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: even honestly think about sitting him next week to on

553
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: a trip to Buffalo and see if your defense can

554
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: do the same thing it did against the Jets and

555
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: let this guy get right. But Allen Robinson also sat

556
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: out this game. I guess he's their number one receiver.

557
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: He hasn't had much of an impact this year, but

558
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: the defense did the job. As I said at the top,

559
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: so many injuries in the jets y receiver group and

560
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: now without Paul that the field is so small for

561
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: Donald's like a ten yard field, no downfield threat, and

562
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: the Bears just sat on it and they're very not

563
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: an exciting team to watch right now, A tough watch.

564
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: The Jets are so the Bears not an incredible effort here,

565
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: but take care of business game and Mitch Drubisky still

566
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: spooks you a little bit with some of his erratic

567
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: throwing missing open receivers. But I do I do like

568
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: watching him. I know he's not a complete player and

569
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of work to do west, but

570
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: I like, uh he does make throws and then his

571
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: ability to make plays with his legs. I still find

572
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: it to be an intriguing talent. I think he's fun

573
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: to watch. And ESPN s QBR metric is not perfect

574
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: by any means, but I've always had a lot of

575
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: respect for it. They've got him with a ninety one

576
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: point seven QBR, which is a great QBR ranking for

577
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: this game. Did they QBR in general pumps up running quarterbacks.

578
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's just good because Gasser rating doesn't give

579
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: him nearly like Tyrod always is super high Kim Newton,

580
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: but that's I think it's that's good to have different measures,

581
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: and it does does show you his his legs have

582
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: so much value and you do look at their schedule.

583
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: Next week they're in Buffalo. They they'll have played the

584
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: four a f C East teams in a row. You

585
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: don't see too often from from a nonconference opponent. And

586
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: the one thing I'd worry about with them, You look

587
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: at their schedule and they're coming along at four and three.

588
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: Maybe they get to five and three. I think the

589
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: other NFC North teams are gonna want to do better

590
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: than two and two against the a f C East.

591
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: To me, that's a good nonconference schedule to have. You

592
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: want to beat the Bills, the Dolphins, and the Jets.

593
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: And how much happer you'd be as a Jets fan

594
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: to have Matt Neggie attached to Donald because that's why

595
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: you feel like Trabisky can grow as well, because of

596
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: the scheme he's in and because of the history of

597
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: that scheme, and you look at Donald, it's impossible to

598
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: evaluate him. And I rich Samina your boys, and I

599
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: thought appropriately came out of this game sort of lashing

600
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls for over complimenting the effort of the Jets today,

601
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: sort of saying they really played that. You know, he

602
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: was impressed with the effort, X, Y and Z come on.

603
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean they were flat. Come on. It was not

604
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: a great effort by the Jets. They hung around early

605
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: because the Bears quite frankly, weren't playing very well on

606
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: offense early on. But uh, I think Bowls is in

607
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: deep trouble. I think he'll survive the season, but I

608
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: barring some type of big turnaround, and I don't know

609
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: if if it's in this Jets team, especially with their

610
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: current state, for that to happen, I think he I

611
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: think he's done. I think he's in a lot of trouble.

612
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't think the offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates is a

613
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: guy that's probably gonna survive this either. So we'll see

614
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: what happens. But the Bears get the W and uh

615
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: we move on. James with the rock Briggs three twenty

616
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: fifteen ten five Hey Jim touchdown. James Conner doing his

617
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: thing against Bill Hill Grow Steelers Radio Network, Bill Grow

618
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: with the call. Uh Ben Roethlisberger through two touchdown passes

619
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Speaker 1: d Antonio Brown. James Conner did his thing again, scoring twice.

620
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: The Steelers beat up on the Brown Mark Sessler. The

621
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: Browns remained winless in Pittsburgh since two thousand three. Uh,

622
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers overcame a slow start, but the game ultimately

623
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: followed a familiar script. It did, and how far of

624
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: a different path these two teams have taken since we

625
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: were in London and watched them fight towards a tie,

626
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: because I watched Cleveland's offense and I'm nothing but concerned

627
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: about Baker Mayfield's physical safety behind a line that has

628
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: no concept of how to block for him. Where the

629
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: Steelers and it had a lot to do with the

630
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: Steelers have stars, the Browns have prospects, and Pittsburgh just

631
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: leaned on the familiar faces of Antonio Brown. But also

632
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: the second half usage and production of James Conner is

633
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: one of the more fascinating halves I've watched in years.

634
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: He absolutely took Cleveland apart and he can do it all,

635
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: and I don't I'm not getting into the Levi on

636
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: Bell comparison game. It's just that they've found they do

637
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: a great job grooming these running backs. And if you're

638
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: Todd Hale, you had to hate watching this because your

639
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: job isn't is now completely on the hot seat in

640
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: that world, as is that entire coaching staffs where the

641
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: player that you were with last year looked like one

642
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Speaker 1: of the best players on the field of any NFL

643
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Speaker 1: game today. You know what you describe sounds like the

644
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: old Steelers running backs Jerome Bettis, you know, Barry Foster

645
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: or Bann Morris, where you just let them take over

646
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: in the second half and just run it down the

647
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: other team's throat exactly, And like, how familiar is this

648
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: all for the Browns and the Steelers. The day starts

649
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: with competing reports, or essentially a bunch of different reports

650
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: that agree on one thing, which is that Todd Haley

651
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: and Hugh Jackson aren't getting along and depending on the

652
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: results of this game, one of them could be fired,

653
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: but not sure which which is a ridiculous a ridiculous thing,

654
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: which I don't doubt is true at all, But it's like, well,

655
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: we'll figure out which one to fire after the game.

656
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: And then you also have the Steelers who are looking

657
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: at a division where I know the Bengals won, but

658
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: they don't look as good to me right now, and

659
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: that we're rounding into mid season and the Steelers look

660
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: like the class of the division again. Yeah, we're a

661
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: month A month ago we were like, oh, can can

662
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh handle all this drama, except every year this happened.

663
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: What they do think there? They look fine to me.

664
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Speaker 1: I think the just said I think Todd Bowles survives

665
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: at least still Black Monday, I don't. I still think

666
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: Hugh's in deep trouble in the here and now he's

667
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: a week next week. Let's say, let's say he survives

668
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: this week. Who knows? You got the Chiefs, then the Falcons,

669
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: then the bye I don't know if I see a

670
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: wind coming before then the way they're playing right now,

671
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: and that would be the time if you, I mean,

672
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: the guy's three thirty six and one. At a certain point,

673
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: you just gotta move on and get the spirit and

674
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: the demons out with him. Uh, this Brown season slipping away?

675
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: At what point do you just say the Hugh thing

676
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: didn't work. We gotta move on to the next step.

677
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: I think what they tried to do was in the

678
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: sake of continuity, because they had such a history of

679
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's flipping schemes every two seasons. This is

680
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: a this is the wrong fit and it for me,

681
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: it's not just on field, it is every autumn. There

682
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: are there's in fighting, there's channels of gossip and whisper,

683
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: and you're here again, and we've been here a thousand times.

684
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: Credit to Pro Football Talk for this that of all

685
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: the coaches in NFL history, there is only one with

686
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: a worse record than Hugh Jackson. Bert Bell, who went

687
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: on to be the commissioner for it, went on to

688
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's Hugh Jackson's destiny. But he went

689
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: on to coin the phrase any given Sunday too. I

690
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: think you could come up with any given Sunday type one.

691
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: I actually could see here not being the commissioner, but

692
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: being one of those guys who ends up like working

693
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: in the league office just because people like him, just

694
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: like he's like the head of operations or something like that.

695
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's about not liking him. It's just

696
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: this is not yeah, like he'll get an offensive coordinator

697
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: job after this if this doesn't work out. But if

698
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't work out, then he'll probably be working with

699
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: like Michael Snarsi in the NFL office. I don't know

700
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: who that is a name that comes up again. I

701
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: think you're thinking of Michael Signora the company. Actually the

702
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: high powered league employee. Lot of pr job is to

703
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: shoot down all of your best ideas, there's there's where,

704
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: there's where Hugh was heading. Let's move on. Is gonna

705
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: throw back shoulder more makes a catch, he's in touchdowns.

706
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: Seahawks the snap, throw back shoulder to the youngster David Moore,

707
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: who tipped it up in the air and tipped it

708
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: right to himself in the ends from fifteen yards out

709
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: off the top of his helmet, and the Seahawks score again.

710
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: Steve Rabel Seahawks broadcasting what they called Russell Wilson throw

711
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: three touchdown passes in the second quarter. That's what they needed,

712
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: That's all they needed. They beat the lines to fourteen

713
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: uh greg. After the game, Russell Wilson said, quote, we

714
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: can do whatever we want right now. They're feeling themselves.

715
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: If you're feeling I am, and they should be feeling themselves,

716
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: because this was like Brian Schottenheimer's offensive image come to life.

717
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Just Chris Carson running people over, Russell Wilson being protected well,

718
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: not having to throw too much. And then you almost

719
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: plan to have the occasional third and long where he

720
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: just runs around, figures out what he wants to do,

721
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: and then he gets about one or two shot plays

722
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: a game and They're the two of the prettiest shot

723
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: plays that any team runs all week, and at the

724
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: end of the game he has three incompletions on only

725
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: seventeen attempts, three touchdowns. They let the lines back into

726
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: it a little bit, but this team is really impressive

727
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: and has changed really all the the cliches of what

728
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: we thought was bad about the Seahawks going into the season.

729
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: I was wrong about the Seahawks. I think a lot

730
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: of people thought they were an also ran team this year,

731
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: but their defense especially, I mean this whole the big

732
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: conversation around them as well, the legion of boom it's over.

733
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: This a team in transition, but they've managed to very

734
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: quickly put back together a defense or rebuild on the fly,

735
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: and they're winning games with this defense, not to mention

736
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: a running game that has been an issue for them

737
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: for years. It's a great job by keep Pete Carroll.

738
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Speaker 1: And you know, we heard a lot in August that

739
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: he's rejuvenated by this by getting rid of, you know,

740
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: the backbone of that dynasty that he loves having all

741
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: of these young, hungry players and that plays to his wheelhouse.

742
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: And it's it's come true. They're not just physical on

743
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: defense and on the offensive line, which has done a

744
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: good job run blocking and protecting their physical receiver. And

745
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: that was a huge difference in this game. Your boy

746
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, David Moore, he's just he's just become your guy.

747
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: He was dominating, he's just winning one on one. They're

748
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: throwing balls up to him. They're throwing balls up to

749
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, who's small. But somehow turn around started when Ken,

750
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: when David Moore replaced Brandon more contested catches and these

751
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: guys were too physical for Tease Taber and some of

752
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: the smaller lines secondary. But I don't mean to keep

753
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: hitting the schedule, but you have the Chargers, Rams, Packers

754
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: and Panthers next. That feels like a a f C

755
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: NFC combined playoff runt. But think that makes it fun

756
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: to root for them, because if they can get through

757
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: some of that without the wheels falling off, it's it's

758
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: all right to be completely wrong about things sometime or often.

759
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: And we were I was about Seattle and it's fun

760
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: or if you're a Pete Carroll fan. Pete Carroll seemed

761
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: like he was being kind of eased into retirement and

762
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's got a team that's in

763
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: the mix. He said after the game. He's still mad

764
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: about how the season started when they got off to

765
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: that slow start, because they would be a real story

766
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: in the league right now if they had to figure

767
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: out a way to win a couple of those early games. Well,

768
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: they're so good at coaching defense that it's it's like

769
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: a safety friendly offense. I know, Earl Thomas, I mean defense,

770
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas isn't in there, but they're two safeties, Bragley

771
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: McDougald and t Drich Thompson are playing really well. They

772
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: they signed a slot cornerback or traded for Justin Coleman

773
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: from the Patriots two years ago. Justin Coleman's but one

774
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: of the best slot cornerbacks in the league right now,

775
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: made a huge play an interception to intercept to take

776
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. It's like they do a better job coaching

777
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: up defense and certainly defends back then the Patriots. You

778
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: can look at it when when they have similar players.

779
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, you know, let's address what we really

780
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: are here to address. The streak is over, Chris Wesley.

781
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: The streak is over. Long live. We got out coached.

782
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: We we overthought, um, we we We went into this

783
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: week fired up about the Colts, but knowing that we

784
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: couldn't look ourselves in the mirror and take them. We

785
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: had a feeling about the Packers and probably should have

786
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: taken them, even though they ended up losing and we

787
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: got two cute We thought we'd we'd do uh, we'd

788
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: run back that Broncos one and back to back to

789
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: start the season, trying to go for like an identity.

790
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: It was a heat check. It was it was, you know,

791
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: but we owned this loss. We're gonna learn from it,

792
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: and we're gonna move on to next week. A total

793
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: round to applause for an amazing run seven straight. But

794
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: you should know, Wes, that you built up a nice

795
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: little lead. But the Zeus is on a four game

796
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: winning streak himself, just two games out with a lot

797
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: of season left over here in the west Leyan household,

798
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: we do not take our competition lightly or seriously. And

799
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: you're good at your job. A lot of press conference, Um, alright,

800
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: any other thoughts on this game? Chris Carson doing things

801
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: hundred seventy six yards rushing for the Seahawks. You haven't

802
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: seen them a lot in the post um. Marshall Lynch

803
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: now getting snacks. Snacks. Actually, Damon Harrison made a couple

804
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: of plays for the Lions, but that alone isn't gonna

805
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: change their defense. This game could have gone a few

806
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: different ways. It didn't necessarily need to be so one sided.

807
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: I think Matthew Stafford had one last he had one

808
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: last fumble, he had one interception. It was not a

809
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: heavy possession game. But that's what Seas does to you,

810
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: is you better make your possessions count or else the

811
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: game side. I don't like Detroit coming out of last

812
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: week's run heavy. Everyone's all excited about them. They run

813
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: for thirty four yards. It's good dog. Come on, all right,

814
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: let's move on running Defenders over tension in Yeah, we

815
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: don't usually go with the TV calls on Sunday, but

816
00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: when Andrew Catalan references Billy Madison out of nowhere, bring

817
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: it up, deep cinephile. That's who he is exactly. The

818
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: cults are building momentum. Andrew Luck through three touchdown passes,

819
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Marlon Mack went off for buck thirty two and two

820
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: scores win over the Raiders at the black Hole. Mark

821
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: Sessler another cinephile, like you like the silver screen, like

822
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: the silver screen, perhaps more. Oakland fought hard in this game,

823
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: but the Colts attack was too much in the end.

824
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: This was one of these games that go watch this

825
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: list week on on game Pass and watch it soon,

826
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: because it was just like, not you didn you don't

827
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: have to take the other two guys a possession for possession,

828
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: and you got the best game of the year that

829
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: Derek Carr has offered. He played great after a week

830
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: of criticism and uncomfortable criticism. Let's face it about if

831
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: he was a man, and that's a real thing that

832
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: he faced this week. Are you crying on the field

833
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: of your teammates like you you're gonna be traded? You

834
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: trade his number one wide receiver. And I watched a

835
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: lot of this game. I thought he played tremendously well

836
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: and it kind of reminded me of now it feels

837
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: like forever ago, but when they were eleven and one

838
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: or whatever it was three about three years ago, and

839
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: he was playing like a near m VP candidate. There

840
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: is good. There is great I don't want to say greatness,

841
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: but there is supreme goodness within Derek Carr. And I

842
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: would think twice if I was John Greden about getting

843
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,479
Speaker 1: rid of him, I don't know if that's what's gonna happen.

844
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: But he played so well. I don't think they're gonna

845
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: get rid of him. I'm not sure what the continuity

846
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: plan would be there, unless you know you're gonna get

847
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: the topic in the draft and get some quarterback that

848
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: you're going to develop. But that could that's exactly something

849
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: John Gruden do. They wouldn't. I guess we shouldn't be

850
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: surprised by anything. Trade for Jamis Winston, which really sounds

851
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: with you. I'm not kidding that go. Do you think

852
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: that Bruden would would look at Derek Carr and Winston

853
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: and say that Winston is the preferable option though next week?

854
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: Because he he seemed to love Winston so much coming

855
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: out and and when he spoke about him on TV.

856
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: But then again the same was true for Derek Carr

857
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: and most other young quarterback So that that's just this.

858
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: I thought this game came down because it was just

859
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: you're waiting for someone to make a mistake. The Doug

860
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: Martin fumble, and Doug Martin ran really hard, and you know,

861
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: if you know Marshawn Lynch and there we've talked about

862
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: at Cooper's gone, and I just thought this was going

863
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: to be a game where Oakland just did not show up,

864
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: and then the opposite happened. But Andrew Luck on the

865
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: flip side, is running one of the more exciting offensive

866
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: league wide, and they trust their running game. They're in

867
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: for two hundred plus yards after lashing the opponent with

868
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: the run last week. This was the imbalance has been

869
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: replaced by absolute balance and offense that is hard not

870
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: to take your eyes off of Frank Reich. Look, he's

871
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: put a stamp on this team back to back games

872
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: with a yard rusher three straight games. Andrew Luck hasn't

873
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: been sacked. The offensive line is now one of the

874
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: best in the entire league. They are averaging thirty five

875
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: points per game over last five weeks, and that is

876
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: with their number one receiver, running back, tight end, and

877
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: offensive tackle being out of the lineup for for most

878
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: of those games. I mean, that's that's why guys like

879
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson and and Todd Bowls have a hard case

880
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: to make to their owners, because you look at Matt Naggy,

881
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: you look at Frank Reich, we're halfway through their first season.

882
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: You can see the stamp up. They're absolutely just different

883
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: operations eight games in and sometimes you gotta get lucky.

884
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: It's better to be lucky than good. Because the Colts

885
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: hired Reich on like two days notice after they got

886
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: him at the Altar, and it might be one of

887
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: the great moves that's happened to them in years. After

888
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: seeing what the culture doing with Frank Reich, how can

889
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: you go into next year and say, I want to

890
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: hire a defensive specialist to be my head coach. He

891
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: got Dontrell Inman involved six for fifty two in this game.

892
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: But I do have to plan. This is one of

893
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: the low moments in a proud franchise history for the

894
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, one one of the national teams. That we

895
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: were just handing out about fifty lollipops to start off

896
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: this game. That you stayed within fourteen points against the

897
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: two and five Cults lay a second, Well, you gotta

898
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: watch the game. This was the Tiger, you know, Derek Cart,

899
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Derek Card did it nice to turnover? I'm just saying

900
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: there allows mething to culture the record right now though

901
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: that no, they have a plus eight team point differential,

902
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: and that is with a team dectimated by injuries. I

903
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: told you it was a bad line though by by

904
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: your desert people. The idea, Yeah, that's true. The idea.

905
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: The idea is just to get the wagering close to

906
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, even and hope that the public is up.

907
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: But I bet you're right. I bet everyone thought the

908
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: same thing and they ended up they ended up taking

909
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: a bath on this one. Take a bad desert take

910
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: got bath. Oh and West Uh Andrew Luck probably know

911
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: everyone took the Raiders and they made lots of money.

912
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: We have no idea. Three touchdowns and I got Greg

913
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: off the topic, one to each of his tight ends. Uh,

914
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: you know the last time a quarterback had touchdowns to

915
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: three tight ends in one game? According to the game

916
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: story I read on NFL dot com. Never, you're right, Okay,

917
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: who's writing those? That was Burgo? Right? Burg Bomb? Great

918
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: story about Burgo the Halloween parties trying to trick me

919
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: on that though I did. I did, Uh Burgo? Who's

920
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: you know friend of the show. He's been on a

921
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: several times. Jeremy Bergman does great work. Um at a party, uh,

922
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: carrying around a walking stick or a cane of some kind.

923
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: A beautiful woman at the Halloween party and costume comes

924
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: up to him. I heard this from someone else who

925
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: was in the circle, makes a bee line for Burgo,

926
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: looks him right in the eyes, and everybody's saying, Oh Halloween,

927
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: Happy Halloween. Burgo coming up. She says, you took my cane.

928
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: Took it. He had found it at the party and

929
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: was walking around with it. And this woman said, you

930
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: took my cane, recovered the cane, and then left with

931
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: her boyfriend. So we might have to get Burgo in here.

932
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: Just I gotta check in on Burgo a little bit.

933
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: I want to know Davi Eally. I always want to

934
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: know what's going on with Elie and the ladies. Yeah,

935
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: I want to see what's going on with Burgo. Burgo.

936
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: Burgo has an interesting resume. He's got a couple of

937
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: Hollywood films under the belt as a child actor. He

938
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: could throw that around at a party, That's what I'm saying.

939
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: There's some he's got an arsenal. He's a bright guy,

940
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: he's got a he's got a great future ahead of him.

941
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he should be doing well, but the Halloween

942
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: party struck out well. I mean, you can't swipe. You know,

943
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: some girls cane. But yeah, let's stop like stealing items

944
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: from people at the party. I mean, I'm not sure

945
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: being the little kid and kicking and screaming is open

946
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: up any pants. But by the way, not the better

947
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: kicking and screaming either, the one with Mike Ditko. So

948
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. Should camped off to Arian

949
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: Peterson through a hall fort up the sideline to the

950
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: thirty twenty fifty pet Five's that add Peterson all the way. Finally, finally,

951
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: Andrean Peterson best one he was in chall day and

952
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: he takes it to the house. Whoa Larry Michael and

953
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: the Redskins Radio network with a call. Adrian Peterson score twice,

954
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: including that game clinching sixty four yards sprint in the

955
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, leading the NFC East Redskins to a win

956
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: over the wofle Simon at the meadow Lands. Washington is

957
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: now five and three, has won three straight. Sometimes the

958
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: box score is a little misleading, but that's also it

959
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: feels like it's great. It's kind of cool for a

960
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: running back. So they gave them rock to Adrian Peterson

961
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: a lot in this game. Uh. Late in the fourth quarter,

962
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: he's he's averaging about three yards to carry um and

963
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: a lot of work for not a lot of glory.

964
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: Bang you break off a sixty four yard or all

965
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're average in six yards to carry

966
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: for the game and you're off for a hundred and

967
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: fifty yards or whatever it is. So they bottled up

968
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: here some most of the game, but they couldn't when

969
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: they needed to stop the Giants. And Peterson is is

970
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: fun to watch thirty three years old and uh, he's

971
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: gonna run. He's probably on pace for about yards and

972
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: get injured. And he has he always, even when he

973
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: was young, he had that little hitch to his getty

974
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: up when he gets to his top speed. It seems

975
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: more pronounced now. I don't know if that's true now

976
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: that he's older, but it's just fun to see him

977
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: in the open field going down the sideline, beating everyone

978
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: and to the pylon. So uh, he bounds up and down.

979
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: He's like he's like a like a dog when an

980
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: owner comes home just bounding at you. He is you

981
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: can he is he is kind of like that. But like,

982
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: there was not much else for me to take away

983
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: from this game. This is a bad game. Um when

984
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: according to script, right, h I went according to script,

985
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: the Giants can't score. They they made it look like

986
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: they at least put an offensive showing by getting a

987
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: touchdown late, but that was what I believe, seventeen seconds left.

988
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: So like last week, it was just window dressing. Ultimately,

989
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: there no one scores points in the final minutes when

990
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: they're down three scores exactly. Um, and uh, Eli Manning

991
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: is Eli Manning? You just wonder they obviously kind of

992
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: botched last season how they were going to handle uh

993
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: moving him out of the starting lineup, and that led

994
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: to a domino effect that rocked the whole organization. You

995
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: just wonder how much longer they're gonna go with him.

996
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: They have two quarterbacks on the roster, including I believe

997
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick Kyle la Letta. Yeah, uh um

998
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: uh So you just you just wonder because Eli has

999
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: not been competitive and because because of the offensive line

1000
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: let West we talked about it last week. Is a

1001
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: chicken and the egg scenario because the line camp Lockerman.

1002
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: Because Eli can't move, it's just a mess. He got

1003
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: sacked seven more times. Oh my gosh, I mean this

1004
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: this looks like if you put in this year's Redskins

1005
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: into a computer and say give me the most Red

1006
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: skinny type game, you've got two picks by d J.

1007
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: Swerringer has been awesome. A lot of Adrian Peterson, not

1008
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: a lot of wide receiver action happening. The offense is

1009
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: who they are. They want to win these games. Twenty

1010
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: to thirteen. They're gonna go about ten and their schedule,

1011
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: along with the Colts, is one of the easiest down

1012
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: the stretch. You go about ten and six and losing

1013
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which is not a totally disaster scenario for

1014
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: a team that everyone counted out in this division. Let's

1015
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: hear for the front seven. The last three weeks they've

1016
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: held see Kwon Barkley, Ezekiel Elliott, and Christian McCaffrey under

1017
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: a hundred year rushing yards combined. That's pretty damn good.

1018
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: They have an identity and they've sort of had it

1019
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: back even in the preseason. They know who they are.

1020
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of J Gruden dream team,

1021
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: like this is how he wants to play football. I

1022
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna win a title that way,

1023
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: but you're probably gonna save J Gruden's job at the

1024
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: very least. The only thing is that we talked about

1025
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: over and over the defensive defensive oriented teams are are

1026
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: going nowhere. Essentially, we're seeing this J. Gruden act and

1027
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: means next week they don't show up. Yeah, and then

1028
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: what happens when they play like a team with a

1029
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: high powered offense versus Eli Manning who is in sharp

1030
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: decline right off a cliff. I think they're a coin

1031
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: flip team almost every week. But at the end of

1032
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: the day, they're five and three, got a game and

1033
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 1: a half lead in the East. Uh, and the Giants

1034
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: are counted down the weeks until I mean they can start.

1035
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't play anyone for the entire rest

1036
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: of the season that you would put as one of them.

1037
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: The Eagle. They have to play the Eagle flights and

1038
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: that's that's tough. And they they have the easiest remaining

1039
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: schedule by winning percentage in the NFL. Hubba hubba. All right,

1040
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: let's move up bunch that the right two receivers left

1041
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: shop got ahead of bet third. He's chasing a town.

1042
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: He picks it up with two seconds left. He hoistsed

1043
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: far side, didn't complain of the game is over. The

1044
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: game is over and the Cardinals win at eighteen to fifteen.

1045
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: Trick fo t we gotta we gotta clip off that

1046
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley lines That was great. Dave Pash the wolf Man,

1047
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio Network, Yes. With the game on the line.

1048
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: C J. Blard watched helplessly as the snap sailed over

1049
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: has had That gap cost San Francisco the final seconds

1050
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: of the game and allowed the Cardinals to escape within

1051
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: at the farm, Greg, you look for progress when you're

1052
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: playing a rookie quarterback. Josh Rosen's go ahead touchdown drive

1053
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: that preceded that final possession that qualifies absolutely. I spent

1054
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: three quarters watching this game thinking I don't know if

1055
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: benching Josh Rosen for a week or two would help him,

1056
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: but that he seems so lost that they need to

1057
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: do something. But this is why you play the kids,

1058
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: because sometimes they play themselves out of it. And the

1059
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: experience that he had with Christian Kirk for the go

1060
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: ahead touchdown, the throws that he had to Larry Fitzgerald,

1061
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: who had a hundred yard game and a vintage performance

1062
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter after doing absolutely nothing all day,

1063
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: to really strong touchdown drives. The only other drive they

1064
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: had was stopped because one of his receivers fumbled the ball.

1065
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: That Rosen pulled himself together after what was really a

1066
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: rough performance to go get a victory and you put

1067
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: that in the bank and like that's the experience you

1068
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: want your young franchise quarterback to half. How about Byron Leftwich,

1069
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: We see any any noticeable difference at all? They got

1070
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: the ball. I thought they used David Johnson a little

1071
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: bit better. He had he had more than I think

1072
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: he had about at the very end. Yeah, he left

1073
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: UH with he came back they were testing his concussion,

1074
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: but he came back in. He got about a hundred

1075
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage. They got to bother him in space

1076
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: a few more times, I thought, especially in the passing game.

1077
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: So that helped. That was his his promise to not

1078
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: just UH Cardinals fans but also fantasy owners, that I

1079
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: am going to use them the way Bruce Arians used

1080
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: David Johnson, And it did seem like they made that

1081
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: concerted effort to get the ball to him in space.

1082
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals have swept this series this year. You know how

1083
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: in college they have like the iron bull and like

1084
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: the bucket of Nails Bull or whatever this should be

1085
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 1: like the recycled Bathwater Bull or in New York Snoop Bowl. Yeah,

1086
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: it's tough when your season, or at least I'm just

1087
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: saying it's sadly it existed at something like the game

1088
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: came down to the center, had two bad snaps in

1089
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: a row to end the game, or else Phil Dawson

1090
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: at least would have given it a shot to try

1091
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: to tie it up. But it's not like the forty

1092
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: Niners deserved that. They had the ball a few times

1093
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, and Kyle Shanahan, who's known for

1094
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: being aggressive, was just hoping the game would end just

1095
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: running the ball. I mean he tried. He tried to

1096
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: throw it a few times on third down, and then

1097
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: the blitz would just batter C. J. Beth. He's saying

1098
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: he wants the number one pick. No, not at all.

1099
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: He was just hoping that his defense, you know, would

1100
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: finish the game off for him because he had no

1101
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: faith in his offense. And I don't blame him no faith.

1102
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no faith. This is one. This is one

1103
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: of my four locks of the week. I clearly shouldn't

1104
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: have jumped off is off the first one. We probably

1105
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: got the other three. Rund Now I deserve to get

1106
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: to get the loss because I jumped off and I

1107
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: went two and two, So that's a big loss in anyway.

1108
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: So I went two and two in my locks, and uh,

1109
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, next time C J. Bethort will carry me through.

1110
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: It was a good experience. Were you intimidated by Dan

1111
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: and I jumping on the eagles thing a little bit?

1112
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't so much intimidation, but it just didn't seem

1113
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: fun or sporting to all have the same. It just

1114
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: seemed boring. Not not that I thought my pick had

1115
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: a lesson. We got in your head a little like

1116
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: you did. It was sporting like conduct. What just does

1117
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: doesn't that feel like, I know there's no rules to

1118
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: this game, but doesn't it feel kind of like what's

1119
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: the point of three? It was a little bit of

1120
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: fun if we were all in it together. But if

1121
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 1: I had all the time, you would have a point.

1122
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: But I think time. It's like I had about four

1123
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: or five games that I thought I probably would feel

1124
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: equally about as good as this segment. Well that, yeah,

1125
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: that feels like a part of it. Well that wouldn't

1126
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: do it, But that does add a new element. If

1127
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: I start locking up four to five games a week, well,

1128
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna tracking you, obviously to make sure that you're

1129
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: you're respecting well, there are no rules though, you can

1130
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. You could just lock up. I'm kidding,

1131
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'll you need to You need to get

1132
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: some ws though, because you behave your way under what

1133
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: doesn't matter at this point West West would have to

1134
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: totally collapse. This is actually possible. I could hear in

1135
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: your voice that you're a little bit upset with yourself

1136
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: that the locks of God. I get upset when I lose.

1137
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: I am. It's I like, I have had terrible sports

1138
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: luck as a fan lately, and this is like the

1139
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: latest thing in the world series. That's that was the joke.

1140
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: Thank you? All right? What was that? Bridget Greg is

1141
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:06,440
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Speaker 1: Night on a percentage basis off at four yard one

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Speaker 1: by p J Williams. I'm contested to the engine, and

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Speaker 1: it's not often your own receiver get you. Digs is

1171
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Speaker 1: gonna come over and stop and try and come back.

1172
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Speaker 1: The defensive fat keeps going and Cousins thought he was

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Speaker 1: gonna keep going, ends up going a right to p

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1175
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: It was basically over at that point. The Saints took

1176
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: control of this game uh late in the first half

1177
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: and proves to a thirty twenty win over the Vikings

1178
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. Um somewhat surprising effort here from the Vikings,

1179
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: who seemed to be hitting their stride Mark Sessler, and

1180
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: yet the Saints come to town. The Saints up to

1181
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 1: six and one now and they smack the Vikings around

1182
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: a little revenge after the NFC Divisional playoffs a year ago.

1183
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: This is the kind of game if I'm a Vikings fan,

1184
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: has me concerned about where your season ends at some

1185
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: point in early January, because you are looking at an

1186
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: offensive line that could not protect the cornerback. And there

1187
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: were a couple of killer turnovers in this one. The

1188
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: Adam Theland fumble that resulted in a major turning point

1189
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half for the Saints

1190
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: that I don't think the Vikings ever got back into

1191
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: this game untally after that took the window of their sales.

1192
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: I know how much Dan loves win probability. According to

1193
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: ESPNS win probability chart, the Vikings had a seventy seven

1194
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: percent chance to win before that fumble. So in which

1195
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: the shows how stupid to win. Probably, I love win probability.

1196
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: I put a lot of stocking so they they forced

1197
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: the funnel. Adam fieland of all present, of all people,

1198
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: who by the way, had another one hundred yard game, uh,

1199
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: building his NFL record, UH, and scored a late touchdown

1200
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. But when he turns the ball over,

1201
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: the Saints uh are able to quickly turn that into seven.

1202
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: So that's like fourteen points swing. And then, like you said, Mark,

1203
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: when they got when they got into the second half, Uh,

1204
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: it just seemed like the game had changed that point, Greg,

1205
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: Why why did it work out that way? Because the

1206
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: Saints can be in different ways. This was on some

1207
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: level a flukey game with those that turnover and then

1208
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: the pick six being so important. Drew Brees only throws

1209
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: for a hundred and twenty yards and you put up

1210
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: thirty points and win comfortably comfortably. But the Saints have

1211
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: shown they can win different types of ways, and one

1212
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: of those ways is having a ball possession attack where

1213
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: mark Ingram is running out the clock at the end

1214
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: of the game, you're having short passes for long drives,

1215
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: which they did. There's it was only an eight possession game,

1216
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: I believe for New Orleans and the Vikings, who are

1217
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: a team built on defense, they got the interception of Breeze,

1218
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: but other than that, they basically didn't get any stops.

1219
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: They could not stop the Saints from scoring. And now

1220
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: that division is wide open, the NFC North. There's no

1221
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: cupcake in that division. And the Vikings are four three

1222
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: and one, right ahead of the four and three Bears

1223
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: and the three three and one Packers. Can't make sense

1224
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: of this Vikings team. They started off slow, got hot,

1225
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: and this is this is a distressing loss. I did

1226
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 1: you say you thought it was kind of a flukey loss.

1227
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I just mean there was a couple of

1228
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: plays that made it a strange kind of game. I

1229
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: think the Saints are a more complete team in terms

1230
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: of running, passing, and even the defense, you kind of

1231
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: know what you're getting. Marcus Davenport right now is making

1232
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: a player to every game, and they're getting better in

1233
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: terms of their past. Saints have won six in a

1234
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: row and we have a game next week where they

1235
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: now face the Rams. That's a beautiful I mean, the

1236
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: Saints have the top two tackles in the league according

1237
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus, whereas the Vikings are putting you know,

1238
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: a rookie in his third start trying to stop Cameron Jordan.

1239
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: Good luck. Don't you feel like the NFC North will

1240
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: not have a wild card team this year? You better

1241
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: win that division if you want to go to the playoffs.

1242
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: Right now that the Saints and Panthers both look like

1243
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: playoff teams for sure, so that there's I do. But

1244
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: they have a pretty tough schedule. It that that last

1245
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: spot in the NFC, I mean, the entire NFC North,

1246
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: it seems totally up for grabs, and Taysom Hill continues

1247
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: to stake his claim as the under the radar greatest

1248
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: NFL player. And this is the Kitchen Sinc game. You

1249
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: got Taysom Hill on that throat to Camara's a ridiculous catch,

1250
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: and then you have a play with Teddy Bridgewater and

1251
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill on the field at the same time. It's

1252
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: like Sean Payton went here for a little revenge. Well,

1253
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler has closed his laptops, so that means we

1254
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: must close this podcast. Yeah, it's like I feel like

1255
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: we've said enough. It is time to move on new

1256
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: phases of our lives. Um, we will be back next

1257
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: time you see Slash hear us it will be our

1258
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: Tuesday Twitter show UH one thirty Pacific, four thirty Eastern,

1259
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: nine thirty overseas in the U k UH And then

1260
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: we'll be back audio show next Wednesday where we'll be

1261
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: recapping the trade deadline, which is happening Tuesday at UH

1262
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: four pm Eastern. So make sure you follow us as

1263
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Speaker 1: you always do with such loyalty. We thank you so much.

1264
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: This is Dan Hansis signing off for the Quiet Storm,

1265
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: but mail Man, the Old Boss and Ricky Hollywood behind

1266
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: the glass Well until Tuesday.