WEBVTT - Samantha Bee 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.160 I could get into it maybe if there were, but well, 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:08.360 more Taylor swifts really football and a financial. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.520 Incentive for us. I definitely cared about a lot of 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.400 sports for a lot of bad boyfriends in my past. 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.200 By the way, I've stood in the rain with more 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.599 men in Asuran like this, with the wind and the rain. 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:25.360 It's going. I love this. I swear to. 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.840 God please like me. Like me. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:33.800 I'm a cool girl who likes sports for money. Hello, 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:38.279 I'm mini driver. I've always loved Proust's questionnaire. It was 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.560 originally in nineteenth century parlor game where players would ask 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.960 each other thirty five questions aimed at revealing the other 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.840 player's true nature. In asking different people the same set 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.440 of questions, you can make observations about which truths appear 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.120 to be universal. And it made me wonder, what if 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.120 these questions were just the jumping off point, what greater 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:02.360 depths would be revealed if I asked these questions as 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:06.440 conversation starters. So I adapted Pru's questionnaire and I wrote 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.360 my own seven questions that I personally think are pertinent 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.240 to a person's story. They are when and where were 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.760 you happiest? What is the quality you like least about yourself. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:20.200 What relationship, real or fictionalized, defines love for you? What 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.880 question would you most like answered, What person, place, or 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.800 experience has shaped you the most? What would be your 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.520 last meal? And can you tell me something in your 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.240 life that's grown out of a personal disaster? And I've 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:37.680 gathered a group of really remarkable people, ones that I 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.160 am honored and humbled to have had the chance to 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:42.959 engage with. You may not hear their answers to all 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.559 seven of these questions. We've whittled it down to which 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.520 questions felt closest to their experience, or the most surprising, 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:56.680 or created the most fertile ground to connect. My guest 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.640 today is comedian, political commentator and author Meant the Beat, 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.559 the longest running correspondent on The Daily Show. Has made 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.880 me and probably you scream with laughter on that show 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.680 and on her own series Full Frontal, which ran for 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.040 seven seasons. I was thrilled to hear that she began 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.639 her broadcasting career in the attic of her house when 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.800 she was nine, with a self tape show called News 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.280 for Goofs. We talked about everything from googling crop tops 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.919 for fifty year old terrible idea and wondering if our 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.480 digital imprint, i e. Our search history goes with us 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:36.280 when we die and etherically counts against us. SAM is 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.760 a treasure and a pleasure I hope you. 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:43.119 Enjoy once we're through talking that I'm going to the train. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.839 That's your full for having more than one child. I mean, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.000 that's really sounds like a new problem because me problem, 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.079 that's a lot of schedules to schedule. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.480 And I'm in service to them. By the way, in 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:55.200 service to. 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:59.560 You're essentially a nun mom. Yeah, that it is like 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.920 giving your life over to an institution. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.639 I don't even think about it anymore. I just disassociate. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.000 I just put on an audio book and then I 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.920 just drive. It's just like pick this one up here, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.840 that one's going there, this friend is coming over, do 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.400 the what's for dinner? What do we But it's it's 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.800 all good. It's all everybody's in a good state. And 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.000 apparently everybody upstairs decided to move furniture because I hear 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:23.280 a lot. 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.480 Oh that's good. I enjoy that. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.240 Let's drag some chairs. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.960 A podcast. Let's do it. Well. Let me ask you 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.640 my first question, which is where and when were you happiest. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.840 Oh, oh my god, they are literally dragging. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.040 First, they really are dragging, But it's fine as long 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:46.040 as we acknowledge it. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.680 Actually, I think they might be vacuuming, so I don't 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.880 want to stop it when we're happiest. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.720 When I realized my kids were cleaning the fucking house. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.920 When they impromptu started vacuuming. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.440 Someone's coming over, someone's coming out, that I wouldn't just 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:04.120 be doing that. 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.720 That's what's nita to get the house clean. I actually 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.400 can't pinpoint a single day, but I am my most 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:15.040 happy when I am with my family and when we 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.240 are doing something all together with enthusiasm, like a vacation 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.600 or a big dinner. It's such a cliche, but I 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.640 really feel like I know where everybody is. I feel 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.839 very safe. We're all being nourished, and we all get 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:34.400 along and we're laughing. It's those moments. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.560 I think, did you have that when you were growing up? 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.279 No, I'm an only child. Ah, I'm an only child, 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.159 and I certainly was loved, but each corner of my 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:49.280 family's very small, so I never had noise or chaos, Like, 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.440 I never learned how to argue. I never learned how 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:56.039 to fight constructively because I was like a miniature adult 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.240 at a really early age. So I love chaos. 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.680 And how many children do you have three? And are 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.719 they at odds with each other often or not? 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:10.680 Really? Not really, they don't legitimately fight very often. They 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:16.760 make fun of one another nearly constantly, like ninety nine 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.839 percent of the time they are making fun of one another. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.800 So will you like Rupert Pupkin in the King of Comedy, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.320 like in the Basement by yourself, like bomb shut up, 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.040 like just doing your stand up when you were a kid. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.359 Is that how you came to be so weirdly funny? 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:35.599 Well, I'm definitely weird. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.320 That's you know what I mean. I mean right, it 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:45.200 is articulate and surprising and specific. And now I'm loving 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.640 the idea of you like in the Basement. Now I 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:48.840 want you to be Rupert Pupkin. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.280 I don't know that it turned out really well for him. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.000 I don't know. He wrote a book, he got out 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:54.800 of jail eventually. 0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:00.000 Yeah, great, this is funny. I don't often talk about it, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.320 and I do still have it. I used to do 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:07.480 fake news broadcasts when I was like six or seven, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.400 and I have a cassette tape still because I had 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.560 a little tape recorder with a microphone, so I would 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:20.240 either surreptitiously record my family and then transcribe their very 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.839 very mundane conversations about dinner. But I also would do 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:29.000 fake news broadcasts of like fake weather reports, and I 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:33.160 called it news for Goofs and I have it. I 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.400 have a news for Goofs cassette. I don't know where 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:37.200 it is right now. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.960 I can't find you need to find it? I do 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.760 you need to find it? Immediate news for goos. Was 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.400 it for a specific audience or was it just for 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.600 your own solitary delectation? Would you just like play it back? 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.919 Yeah, yes, I just played it. I wasn't for anyone 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.599 or anything, And I don't believe that anyone ever listened 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.400 to it, nor should they. It was like a precocious 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.960 but I was like quiet, just like kind of a 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.640 quiet little that. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.200 It was like a news report. You weren't like, hey, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:11.360 this is Sam. You know you weren't doing hot girl 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.679 stuff you're doing You're doing the news report. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.800 No. No, it was like thunder showers are rolling in 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.160 for the next thirty six hours, so make sure you 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:24.960 take your umbrella, Like really not I just I. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.440 Love that story so much. I knew that you came 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:28.240 from the basement. 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.560 Well, actually I did have more, more of an attic. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:38.000 We had well you know, the same tomato from the 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:38.920 hub of the house. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.800 Yeah, I mean attic exactly. It was away and it 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:47.160 was private behavior. Behavior that you did that I secretly 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.640 must have known made you partly who you are. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.520 We lived with my mom and it was a for 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.440 sure haunted house. It was all divided up into little apartments. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.520 It had been a hospital during the war. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.680 That's creepy. That's very creepy. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.040 And my mother gave me the top floor apartment to 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.680 just do my own only child things. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.200 It was the way they put the people. They just 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.960 didn't want to hear screaming. Oh yeah. 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.320 They were like, we should put her in the belfry, 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:15.040 should we? 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:15.360 Just? 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.360 And so I had a little apartment where I could 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.480 see all the other children getting fresh air and like 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.840 playing in the streets. But I had my ABBA records 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:28.760 and your recording, fully entertaining myself and totally fine with it, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.080 not like yearning to be on the street playing ballock. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.880 No wonder you love chaos because you were basically just 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.559 sort of like flowers in the attic with the tape. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:44.559 Recorder, totally, totally, just expressing myself to myself with love, and. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.000 I love that. That's why you like that the happiness. 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:51.119 Of course, you grew up in a haunted, spooky ex hospital, 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.800 sequested by yourself with the tape recorder. Of course you 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.480 like family life and the noise. And you probably have 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:58.440 a sweet dog. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.720 We have two cats. Is busy and I do yearn 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:03.120 for it. 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.600 What quality do you like least about yourself? 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.880 I think it varies. I will say this, it varies. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:15.679 From it, but it's interesting. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.160 I like that it's not consistent. I don't actually spend 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:23.040 too much time beating myself up. It's too chaotic to 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.360 worry about. I wish I was less of a people pleaser. 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.160 I'm better at it now. But I have been such 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.600 a pushover and so unable to love you. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.480 I find that so hard to believe, given like the 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:40.720 way in which you have engaged with sort of the 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.679 culture and with issues and yourself, Like, that's really interesting. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.440 So you're never afraid to take things on. It has 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:48.960 seemed to me that's. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.440 The side of myself that I have to turn on. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:56.640 It's like isn't that so weird? I don't think about 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.000 it that much, but I'm definitely I wouldn't go out 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.120 in the world and just speak extemporaneously about something that 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.600 I feel passionately about. It's all very thoughtful, it's all 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.679 very curated, it's all very intentional, and I definitely have 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.320 to divorce the shy side of myself, you know what. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:16.920 That's it. I wish I was more of a joiner. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:18.840 I wish I was less shy. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.880 Gosh, that's really interesting. I wish I was more of 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:22.560 a joiner. 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:23.840 Yes, I do. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.559 Did you not feel like when you're on your show 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.120 and everything that you had joined with all these millions 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.520 and millions and millions of people who are watching and 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:37.000 who listen to you and engaged with you, did that 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:38.120 not fit you? Did that? 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.959 And did that to me was like a beautiful communion. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:47.000 That was like almost that was a very shared experience. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.360 I always thought about the audience, and especially when doing 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.079 live shows and things like that. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.120 I love that you just said it was like a communion. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.160 It was especially having a live audience. It felt like 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:02.360 sharing something with the people in the room, and I 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.840 think we all really got into it. It was like 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.120 there was a back and forth I was taking from 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.920 the audience they were taking from me, and there was 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.680 a fluidity there. I wish I was more just like 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:18.080 physically a joiner, Like I would get really stressed out 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:22.720 if everybody's gone for a hike and then everyone's like, 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.440 let's jump off this cliff into the water. I'm like, 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.280 oh no, we jumping off a cliff. What am I 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.200 gonna do? And then I really like really worries me 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:38.160 and I get like almost become a different person where 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.080 I just get so interior and I'm like, I'm gonna 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.080 I'm gonna jump off the clip, I'm gonna fall, and 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.640 my head's gonna smash open on the rocks. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.240 Do you think that stems from being having been, you know, 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:56.800 a solitary child, like an only child who then who's 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.920 an introvert, but then finds their way into a deeply 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:05.040 extrovert job and life. So was that really conscious? Like 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.840 did you go i'm a shy person, I'm going to fall. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.120 Most shy people will go I'm a shy person, I'm 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:10.359 going to go to the library. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.840 It was really accidental. Don't you think this is pretty 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.199 common with performers you like have a very shy side, 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.400 and where you can really find your back in a 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.000 space is in front of people. You can let it 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:29.320 all go. You're very free, and then you kind of 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.120 go back to yourself and it's I don't know, it's 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.000 an exercise in a different kind of It's just like 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.360 flexing different muscles. It's a different type of freedom. And 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.480 I love it, but I don't live like that. My 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.679 close friends can all see it because before an event 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:47.520 or something like that, if you know, if I'm speaking 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:52.800 at something or doing a performance, I'm so mellow, you 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:57.080 would not imagine that a switch would get flipped at 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.120 any point. People would observe me and think something is 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.439 terribly wrong, like just how quiet and calm I am, 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:07.080 And then the switch turns and I'm completely in show 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.959 mode and it's like one second. It takes one second. 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.400 Maybe it's just practice or muscle memory. And I like 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:15.920 it and I feel free and I feel great. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:21.040 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. No, I think it's I 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.040 think you're right. I think a lot of performance have that. 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.400 And then I think it's very difficult when you want 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.319 to switch it off. But when you're in the supermarket, 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.240 people don't want it to be switched off. They want 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:35.320 it to be switched. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.920 On, and they want you to be right. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.840 I think there's quite a lot of discord that comes 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.360 from that. It's probably why you don't see, you know, 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.760 the Kardashians, Dan and Gelson's much. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.320 I feel like they're there. They're just standing the headies. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.040 I mean, they're just. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.800 They just put like an old bag on and then 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.280 go to the supermarket. I mean, you have to want 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.240 to do your own supermarket shopping, right. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.840 I think some people just don't. I think it's like 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.640 I couldn't possibly go to the supermarket. I did see 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.880 Angelina Jolee once in the parking lot of the market 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.240 near my house in Malibu, and there was a throng 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.880 of people. She had a kid on her hip and 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.199 a security guy who was holding the shopping. She was 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:15.560 trying to get the kid in the car and he 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.120 was trying to get the shopping in the back. And 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.800 there's a tree, like a throng of people standing just 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.440 watching her struggle with her toilet paper and her kid. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.440 And unfortunately, I suppose, as I'm remembering this, I must 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.160 be like them. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:34.960 Does she's one of those I. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.840 Was part of the throng, and I knew it was wrong, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.120 and I knew it was awful. I knew, but I 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.600 do remember thinking, God, that is just not what you want. 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.920 You want there to be rules around it. Switched on. 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.280 We've all agreed it's on right now, and now I'm 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:47.880 going to switch it off, and like, please, let me 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:49.760 live my life with it switched off with It doesn't. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.160 Work like that. It doesn't work like that. If you're 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.320 Angeline famous, that's next level. When people would pay money 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.840 for photographs of you handling your toilet paper. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.920 That's it's a different level of engagement. And yeah, then 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.040 you probably just stop. I never saw her again. 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.080 That's when you move to France. Then you're like, I 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.400 gotta go where people also care, but they won't. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:11.680 I've got to go and make rose. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:19.840 I've got I've got to go and make my lambruscos I. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.480 Just can't do the shopping anymore. I've got to go 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.080 and make rose. Should I feel like that most days 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.560 I can't go to the shops anymore. I just need 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.640 to get back to my vineyard. I have to. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.680 I just have to check on the grapes. Come, please 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.120 just check on them. 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.520 Hello, my babies, Hello. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:40.280 My Yes, Oh I want to. I want to check 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:44.000 on the garden that way in the future, like, hello, girls, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:44.800 what are you doing? 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:50.120 Hi down Finians, Good morning. Oh it's just mom. She's 0:15:50.160 --> 0:16:08.440 just talking to the tomatoes again. So what relationship, real 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:10.760 or fictionalized, defines love for you? 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.840 This is an easy one for me. It's Coach and 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.080 Jammy Taylor in Friday Night Lights. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:20.560 Oh my god. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.840 I don't think I've ever seen a couple like a 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:29.600 happy couple rendered better in TV or film. I really don't. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.800 Did you love that they were hot and that they 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.880 just like the way they loved each other? Or was 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.560 it the small town America of it, the fact that 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.560 it felt real? Like what part of it did you love? 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:46.000 It felt real to me? Well, that they are I 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:50.240 mean that's not we're not they're hot, they're smoking hot, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:56.600 but absolutely beautiful, just like the aspirational beauty aside, Okay, 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.520 I actually felt that I was seeing a couple. It 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:08.000 felt powerfully realistically rendered. Maybe like an idealized version, I 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.320 guess a little bit, but I could relate to the 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.800 way they talk to each other. There was an intimacy, 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.760 they didn't always agree on things. It just felt like 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.679 the normal functioning of it. You just so seldom see 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:24.800 in television, in film, in art, just kind of a 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:30.240 healthy couple doing healthy couple stuff, talking about things relating 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:30.880 to each other. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.560 It's quite hard for it to be interesting, and yet 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:36.480 that show was. It was really engaging, and it was 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.879 really interesting. You're right, it's very difficult just to show 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.000 a nice, normal relationship because now a days, somebody has 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.800 to be a spy, and that pants have to be 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:49.520 on fire, has to be so all. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.960 Has to be extra. There has to be like a 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:58.359 terrible couple secret that they're both holding onto or something 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:05.639 devastating that happened to them that colors every interaction forever. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.600 And it sometimes is just like I'm married to my 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:13.800 friend and we've been together a really long time and 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.920 we like it being around each other most. 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.399 I think that was a reflection. I don't know what 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.600 year of Friday Night Lights began, but I wonder if 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.200 that when I think back on it now we are 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:31.280 not in two thousand and six, what was the friendly 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:39.000 face of a Republican government, you know, before Barack Obama, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.160 Like it feels like it was a far more kind 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:46.160 of Bucolic America. I guess I mean, all the subprime 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:51.119 mortgages hadn't destroyed working class people in America. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:52.480 That was a right life. 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.160 It's just a bear. It was right. But it's interesting, 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.000 like when I think that, I would have thought it 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.880 was longer ago than two thousand and six, but I don't. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:01.880 I think you see stuff like that on television now 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.359 because genuinely, I feel like the sort of nuts level 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:09.760 of television right now reflects what's everywhere. Right, there's this 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.760 amped up feeling like even the relationship shows that are genius, 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.880 like Mister and Missus Smith are still oh, tightened, tight 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:18.639 and tightened. 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:25.720 Everything is operatic, and there's blood and there's fury. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.520 Yeah, blood, rage and disparity. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.880 We also weren't like incentivized to be so angry on 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:39.480 social media, like that was all that wasn't really banging 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.400 yet it was it wasn't really I'm trying to think. 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.240 I feel like I got my first iPhone in two 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.600 thousand and seven, two thousand and six, I. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:48.400 Got It's so funny. I still had a BlackBerry when 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.359 Henry was born, and he was born in two thousand 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.320 and eight. I was blackberrying hard. I wasn't doing anything. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.679 There wasn't I think maybe that actually is exactly what 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:01.560 it is. We didn't have this pub onslaught, so that 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:06.040 in a way, television was a bit more focused and 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.600 we haven't been ruined by I don't know. It feels 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.520 like a very different time, although. 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.879 I mean it was the Iraq Warren we were mad 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.640 as you're. 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.040 Right, I'm just stuffing that under the carpet. You're right, 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.199 But we didn't have the internet in the way that 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:25.320 we have now to amplify it's horror of what was 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.800 going on. So I was still reading the newspaper and 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.120 you would read it in the same way that one 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:34.359 metabolized news. Differently when I'd read it in the newspaper 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.840 and it was quite literally this object in front of 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.359 me in paper. Now, when I turn on my phone 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.439 on my computer and it is videos and TikTok of 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:47.639 people who are there and it is happening in this moment, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.920 is a very different response to the news we are. 0:20:51.240 --> 0:21:00.199 You really are metabolizing the most horrifying images and realities time, 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.879 which really it's devastating. 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.520 I mean on every part of everybody's life. 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.000 I think yes, and I do think, like thinking back 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.199 to that time and at that time, I worked on 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.119 The Daily Show, and we would do pieces about the 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.399 Iraq War, like we would do pieces about George Bush 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:17.879 and how bad of a president he was, and you know, 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.920 it was revelatory to our audience. They were like, oh, 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:22.240 I never thought about it that way. 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.600 But that show was also like the Revolutionary Like it 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:29.200 was suddenly comedy. Is politics politics as comedy, but suddenly 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.240 we were. It was a way in which every single 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.360 person who watched The Daily Show could understand and somehow 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.520 that it was articulating something that I don't think we'd 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.919 ever had to articulate before, because we'd never know. That 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.960 was certainly the first war that I lived through consciously 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:43.840 as it were. 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.320 Yes, and we were learning about it all with the 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.359 same toolbox, and now we are just seeing it like 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.240 if you pick up your phone alerts you they're like, great, 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:55.560 But do you know what I mean? 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:58.320 Because I know that perhaps it is specious to say 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.720