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Speaker 1: Whatever what question would you most like answered?

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Speaker 2: earthly bodies and shoin some wonderful energy field where we

439
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: just kind of exist in an astral plane. I favor them.

440
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: Just the concept of a multiverse or like our energy

441
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: doesn't just dissipate, that it goes somewhere else, that it

442
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: goes where it's needed is kind of my hope.

443
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: Do you think that it is reused or do you

444
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: think that there is like an energy stream that exists

445
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: that is where our energy is uploaded into some sort

446
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: of etheric cloud.

447
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: I like that it sounds so technological when you say uploaded.

448
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 2: I know I want to upload myself to the cloud.

449
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: That's I feel like, you know, I write as well,

450
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to take my browsing history with me. Actually,

451
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 2: just as I turned my computer on before joining for

452
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: this wonderful conversation that I'm thoroughly enjoying, I was like,

453
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: I have to tell many what my last Google search

454
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: was before I joined this, because I haven't used this

455
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: computer in maybe a week or two. It was crap

456
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: tops for women over fifty, Thank you for coming to

457
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: my ted talk. It was one sentence, did you well?

458
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: Very important rejoinder to that is did you find something?

459
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: And what does it look like? Okay, are you wearing it?

460
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: I will never wear it, but I did buy one?

461
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: Did you? It's never going on my body and I'm

462
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: not wearing it. It's awful.

463
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: Did you buy it to wear with like high waisted

464
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: jeans or are you? I did? And I like that idea.

465
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: I do. I'm not going to lie.

466
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: I think that what's going to happen? And it's so

467
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: up there. It's sitting in my glass set upstairs. Yeah,

468
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: it's mocking me. I look at it. It's floral. It's

469
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: going to make me look like just that I'm about

470
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: three feet tall. That's my theory. Like, I'm going to

471
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: feel really good about myself. I'm going to put it

472
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: all together. I'm going to walk out the door going

473
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm doing it, and then I'm going to see my

474
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: reflection somewhere unexpected, and I'm going to go, this is

475
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: a fun house mirror, right like, this is a weirdly

476
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: positioned piece of glass. And then I'll catch it again

477
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 2: and at the next doorfront and go, oh no, no,

478
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: I am a three foot tall woman, So maybe I'll

479
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 2: sell it.

480
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: Are your kids boys or girls?

481
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: Two girls? One boy?

482
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: Would they wear it?

483
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: Oh?

484
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: No? Do they even know you bought it?

485
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: They don't know I bought it. They're going to be ashamed.

486
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: And actually, my eldest daughter is going into fashion. She's

487
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 2: going to college for fashion design, and so she very

488
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: picky and intelligent about style, and so it's helpless.

489
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: Maybe could one of your animals wear it?

490
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: It will fit my cat perfectly. It will be like

491
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: a full sized ramper on her, but she's going to

492
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: pull it off.

493
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: I just like the idea of recycle. I like recycled energy,

494
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: recycled crop tops. And I do think our browser history

495
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: should go with us when we die, that all of

496
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: our digital everything, our digital imprint, should go with us

497
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: into the etherical.

498
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: Cloud, but you have to carry it with you.

499
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then I think you can also, Like when

500
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: you get there, I'm sure it'll just be like, let

501
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: us just take all that from you.

502
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: Give us, don't worry.

503
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: Give us your crop tops, give us your inappropriately googled

504
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: blokes in the middle of the night, give us everything.

505
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: Come on, that's a heavy load you're carrying me.

506
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: By the way, I bet you that's why angels can flies,

507
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: because they've given away all of the awful secrets to God.

508
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: They took off that heavy backpack and then they unfurled

509
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: their ways exactly.

510
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: They didn't have to carry the browsing history. They could

511
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: spread the wings.

512
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: Finally, they had wings the whole time, but they were

513
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: underneath your backpack.

514
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: They were underneath your backpack of spiritually unanswered questions and

515
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: questionable human questions.

516
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: Yep, yes, yes.

517
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: Can you have questionable questions? That sounds like a double negative.

518
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, crap tops for women over fifty?

519
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: What would be your last meal?

520
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I love to eat. My last meal would be

521
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: so big, it would be immense, like it just would

522
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: have so many different things in it.

523
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: I hope that's it is. A buffet?

524
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: Is completely feast. First of all, I have to have

525
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: a topo Chico because I love drinking topochico. It's my

526
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: favorite all time beverage. I always have Topochico in the house.

527
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: Is it just soda water or are they different flavors?

528
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: I only like the plane just without flavor, such an

529
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: effervescent seltzer that it burns my throat and slakes my

530
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: thirst every time, unbeatable.

531
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Great, So that's you want to begin with the burning.

532
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: I want to begin with that. I'm going to have

533
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: some freshly squeezed orange juice because that I also love

534
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: as a beverage, and some very fine champagne. So there's

535
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: my beverages. It is not going to be coherent with

536
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: the meal.

537
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter it's your last meal, because coherence is

538
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: you're about to give your backpack to the angels.

539
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: It's fine, I'm taking it off, so let's go out

540
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: in style.

541
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: Let's fill it up, take it off.

542
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,479
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to fly. I'm going

543
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: to be really full with liquid and solids. I need

544
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: a tiny break before I take off to digest.

545
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: Guys, guys, guys, hold on, hold on, I just need

546
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: to digest. I'm not gonna be able to fully ascend because.

547
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: I need just eaten. I need to lay down on

548
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: a hot rock for eight hours. Then I'm going to

549
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: a sound I'll join you all. I'd be there wait.

550
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: As opposed to a food coma, you're going to be

551
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: in food limbo before you die. This is special. Carry on.

552
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm loving that visuals.

553
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: This is a little holding station the people.

554
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: Who holding rock. Okay, so what are you eating?

555
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna need some great cheese and some fine cracker.

556
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: I love cheese and crackers love. I love fine breads,

557
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: cold salted butter. We're gonna have some freshly baked breads,

558
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: crackers like a spread. I wouldn't mind having a shrimp cocktail,

559
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: a classic one, because I love a shrimp cocktail me

560
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: too delicious. I would love like a really good hummus,

561
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: some chickpea like I love Thomas and chickpeas. I love that.

562
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: I'd love a kale salad. I love kale. A great

563
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: steak would be nice. I love a steak.

564
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: You can have all of it.

565
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: My husband makes the best steak rub, so it has

566
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: to have that. It is so delicious that every time

567
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: we eat it, we don't eat it very much. We

568
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: don't eat that much meat, but when we do, it's

569
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: very special. I'm going to make my own rice pee laugh,

570
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: because we all love it in this family. I make

571
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: great rice. I just do, and every one of my

572
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: family is like, the meal is whatever, but this rice,

573
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: everybody gets excited about it. Someone have that. Some veggies,

574
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, surprise me. I love vegetables. Surprise me with

575
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: the vegetables. Let's get nuts. There's things that can't be

576
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: on the table, such as eggplant, which is just not good.

577
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

578
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: If you have to jazz it too much to make

579
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: it nice, it probably wasn't intended for consumption.

580
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: It's a night shade. It's out. I almost feel that

581
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: way about tomatoes, which are a fellow night shade. But

582
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: carry on. This is your male, not mine.

583
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna have some roasted mushrooms. I love mushrooms. I

584
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: love caramelized onions. We should have some of that.

585
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: Okay.

586
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: Probably a roast chicken too, Okay, I love a roast chicken,

587
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: like a proper French style, salted, crispy skin roast chicken.

588
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: It would be nice. And then we're gonna go have

589
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: some dessert. I love cake. It doesn't really matter what

590
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: flavor it is. I just love cake. I love cake.

591
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: It's so good, it's delicious. Also, we have to have dates.

592
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: I love dates dates and cake. Sticky chassy pudding would

593
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: be nice, like a nice date cake with some caramel,

594
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: maybe a little sour cherry pie. And I think I'm good,

595
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: and then I gotta lay it down on my hot rock. Eight.

596
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: You are literally you're in food limbo. Yeah, and the

597
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: angels will be looking at their watches and your backpack

598
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: will be filled, but you'll be on your hot rock digesting.

599
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I warned everyone. They were like, what's your last meal?

600
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is going to take some time, Like,

601
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 2: don't pressure me. I love people who are like just

602
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: a hamburger and fries like ebbs. No, No, absolutely not.

603
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: It's quite interesting how people do censure themselves around food

604
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: and go, well, it can only be one thing. Well,

605
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 1: I better just pick one vegetable and one protein. And

606
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, is it fries or is it mash?

607
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is it both?

608
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: Could it be both?

609
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Could it be all potatoes?

610
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: Could it be?

611
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's interesting that you leaned hard

612
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: into the glufftad. I'm happy that you did. I did

613
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: because for a last meal, I don't see the point

614
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: of if I have the option, Can you tell me

615
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: about something that has grown out of a personal disaster?

616
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: Oh, one has grown out of a personal disaster. I

617
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: think my relationship to my husband came out of a

618
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: lot of like bad relationships. When we got together, I

619
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: remember we went out for dinner. I liked him, but

620
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: I didn't think that we were on a date. I

621
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: actually really didn't because I considered myself to be never

622
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: having a relationship again, like unironically and not as a joke.

623
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: When I was with my boyfriend before him, I was like,

624
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm never going to do this again. I think I'm

625
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: done with relationships, Like it's never happening again. I was like,

626
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: that part of me is just gone. I'll just have

627
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: friendships in a nice life and cultivate friendships and family

628
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: relationships and that'll be that. And so we went out

629
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: for dinner, and he thought we were on a date,

630
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: as I know now, and he told me as story

631
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: about how he had this female friend who was really

632
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 2: into him and he just thought of her as a friend,

633
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: and I thought he was talking about me, and I

634
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: was like, that's great, because I'm never being in a

635
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: relationship again in my whole entire life. So delicious dinner,

636
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We'll see each other again because

637
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: we're friends. And I think that out of the ashes

638
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: of many bad relationships that were so out of balance,

639
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: and things were done to me and I did terrible

640
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: things to others, Like it wasn't like I was a

641
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: pristine ingredient who was kind to people. People were awful

642
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: to me, I was awful to them. And we started dating,

643
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: and I was shocked to learn that you could just

644
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: be happy with someone like there was no gamesmanship. It

645
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: was very balanced. We each would to sometimes wind sometimes lose,

646
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: like I mean the battle of like where are we

647
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: going for dinner? You know, we both contributed equally to

648
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: the decision making. And it was actually shocking to me.

649
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: I didn't know that it didn't have to be as

650
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: grindingly difficult as it had been to that point.

651
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: But how amazing took a sec you were so young

652
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: to figure that out.

653
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: I was in my late twenties, you know, amaz.

654
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: To forty eight. I mean, I literally was with just

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Speaker 1: an absolute bounder as we'd say in England who did terrible,

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Speaker 1: terrible things to me, to his kids and just awful. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and out of that said absolutely the same thing. I

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Speaker 1: am ruined and I will never love anyone ever again

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Speaker 1: to the person that I am still with, who I

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Speaker 1: love more than anything in the world apart from my son.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that so funny?

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Speaker 1: I think that maybe it is like you just did

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Speaker 1: it when you were much of just a relinquishing of

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Speaker 1: I am done. This is scorched earth, so you know

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Speaker 1: we're good.

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Speaker 2: Just a ruined person.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very freeing, being completely ruined.

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Speaker 2: It was freeing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the angels come and take backpacks at certain times

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Speaker 1: in our life.

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Speaker 2: Well, isn't that a nice way to see it? Right?

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Speaker 1: Maybe we just give stuff up and go, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm ruined. It's fine. I'm just going to carry on

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Speaker 1: and out of that rubble stuff can actually grow.

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Speaker 2: Stuff can grow. It feels there was such a gift

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Speaker 2: to just meet someone for whom it's very natural to

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Speaker 2: just be steady, like just an even keeled person who

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Speaker 2: just wants to be happy, just like.

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Speaker 1: It's nice a and also that it is actually beautifully binary. Yes,

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Speaker 1: just yeah, simple, a simple equation, not a big complicated

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Speaker 1: conversation about Yeah, this is my damage, this is my trauma.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've all got damage and trauma. Let's just

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Speaker 1: get out and have a nice time despite it.

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Speaker 2: Very simple, not a lot of conversation, and we still

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Speaker 2: all these years later, like almost thirty years later, just good,

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Speaker 2: continue amazing, having the same amazing conversations. We don't talk

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Speaker 2: about it very much. I only talk about my relationship

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Speaker 2: with him with other people.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's great, we'll get him to listen to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: He'll like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna be like, Wow, was that crap about

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Speaker 1: the backpack? That was that stupid bit?

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Speaker 2: Talk that way. People are gonna thank you.

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Speaker 1: People think you're crazy. Just talk about my rub.

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Speaker 2: I don't want anyone to know that my steak rub

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Speaker 2: is delicious.

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Speaker 1: Now everyone will want it exactly what are you doing

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Speaker 1: to us?

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Speaker 2: He could go into business. He could, by the way,

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Speaker 2: it's great.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I feel like, if you feel

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Speaker 1: his rub could rub people the right way, get it

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Speaker 1: out there in the world.

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Speaker 2: It would be great on a mushroom. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 2: if you don't like than that now.

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Speaker 1: Sounds very delicious. Rubbed roasted mushrooms, also sort of filthy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough. You're the most wonderful delight

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Speaker 1: to talk to and it is so nice to see you.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so glad that you're so well.

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Speaker 2: So nice to see you, so nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: This was a lovely conversation. I feel very energized to

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Speaker 2: go pop my crop top on and check myself out

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Speaker 2: in a full length mirror.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I want you to do one final recording,

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Speaker 1: okay of news for coops, news for goofs in your

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Speaker 1: crop top before you give the crop top to your cat.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it on my cat and send you

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Speaker 2: a piccher.

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Speaker 1: Please do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to do that that later.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, love me, Thank you, thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you a million times. Mini Questions is hosted and written

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Speaker 1: by Me Mini Driver, Executive produced by Me and Aaron Kaufman,

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Speaker 1: with production support from Jennifer Bassett, Zoe Denkler, and Ali Perry.

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Speaker 1: The theme music is also by Me and additional music

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Speaker 1: by Aaron Kaufman. Special thanks to Jim Nikolay Addison, O'Day,

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