WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: A Winner or a Loser 

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Were on with Mbar Garcia, Brian

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<v Speaker 6>It is Wednesday, April second, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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<v Speaker 6>episode number four. Welcome to the latest edition of the

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<v Speaker 5>I got everybody here today except for Nick. He is

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<v Speaker 5>at the owner's meeting. He'll be traveling back today, so

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<v Speaker 5>he'll be back with us next week.

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<v Speaker 6>But for right now, I got my other two co hosts,

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<v Speaker 6>Amber and Brian, and we'll take this time to bring

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<v Speaker 6>you the very best in Cowboys news, notes and analysis

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<v Speaker 6>during this next forty five minutes. Today, we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>start with some rule changes NFL had their owners meetings.

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<v Speaker 6>There were quite a few rules changes, and I want

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<v Speaker 6>to run through them with you guys and get your

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<v Speaker 6>opinions on them. Some of the different rules changes that

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<v Speaker 6>were proposed were tabled. I want to get your opinions

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<v Speaker 6>on those as well, and then we'll get back into

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<v Speaker 6>some of our position analysis, our position breakdown that we

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<v Speaker 6>started last week with Today, we're going to focus in

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<v Speaker 6>on safety and wide receiver. Both those two I think

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<v Speaker 6>are pretty interesting and have some interesting things for the

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<v Speaker 6>Cowboys from the standpoint of where they are and where

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<v Speaker 6>they need to be when the season begins. So let's

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<v Speaker 6>jump in. Let's start first with some of the rules changes.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the first one that jumped out at me

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<v Speaker 6>was the change to the overtime rules as it stands. Basically,

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<v Speaker 6>I think the the original rule, the rule that they've

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<v Speaker 6>been playing by it before, they had one rule for

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<v Speaker 6>the regular season, one rule for the postseason. They've now

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<v Speaker 6>basically said, we're gonna make the one that we use

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<v Speaker 6>in the postseason the regular season rule with one modification.

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<v Speaker 6>So essentially, both teams will get a possession in overtime,

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<v Speaker 6>they'll be guaranteed a possession in overtime. But he was

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<v Speaker 6>the interesting kicker. And I've never heard this being discussed before.

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<v Speaker 6>It sounds like they're going to reduce the overtime from

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen minutes down to ten minutes, yes, which I think

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<v Speaker 6>is pretty significant. And to start thinking about it from

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<v Speaker 6>from the standpoint of if you hit that ten minute

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<v Speaker 6>mark and there's still is a tie, you now have

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<v Speaker 6>a tie on your record. How do you like it

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<v Speaker 6>or dislike this this new rule?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you know, the league is doing their

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<v Speaker 3>best to try and kind of figure these rules out.

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<v Speaker 3>Stephen Jones plays a significant role on the Competition Committee,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Steven does have the best interest of

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<v Speaker 3>the game in heart, and you know, when you talk

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<v Speaker 3>to him about it, it's something he takes very seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I think you know, as a fan,

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<v Speaker 3>you just want want your team to have the best

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity in overtime. We've seen so many times when you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen reactions of you know, of quarterbacks at Baker

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<v Speaker 3>Mayfield when they're playing Kansas City and they go to

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<v Speaker 3>overtime and they lose the flip and his reaction to

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<v Speaker 3>it is, oh my gosh, we just gave the ball

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<v Speaker 3>to Patrick mahomes and we're done, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 3>and that's and that's a reaction we have as fans, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're done. Uh so yeah, the fact that they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to the what the playoff rules, I think is

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<v Speaker 3>a is a good a good measure if you have ties.

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<v Speaker 3>The things that are always interesting about ties, guys, is

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<v Speaker 3>that at the end of the year sometimes they play

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<v Speaker 3>into factor of deciding playoff spots and maybe keeping a

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<v Speaker 3>team eligible or knocking a team out. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a time, way before you guys were born,

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<v Speaker 3>when I was watching football that ties were part of

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<v Speaker 3>the game. So yeah, it's but the fact that each

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<v Speaker 3>team gets a possession and uh you know, but there

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<v Speaker 3>may be some you know, think about this also too.

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<v Speaker 3>You score, but you take all the clock and you

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<v Speaker 3>really don't give any other team an opportunity. That's something

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<v Speaker 3>that could be really, really a very a painful thing

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of fans to have to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>if you're on the short end of that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, nothing else I hate more in sports when there

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<v Speaker 7>is a tie at the end of the game, like

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<v Speaker 7>that is just go do rock paper sits or at

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<v Speaker 7>that point, I don't care but I need someone to

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<v Speaker 7>be the winner. So I think that this new structure,

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<v Speaker 7>I think it just brings and I agree with everything

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<v Speaker 7>that Brian just said, but it also brings that fairness

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<v Speaker 7>to it. There's a lot more fairness in the game,

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<v Speaker 7>and you allow it to be more competitive. It is

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<v Speaker 7>one of those situations, just like you mentioned with Patrick

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<v Speaker 7>Mahomes that yeah, those type of quarterbacks, You're like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>they got the ball. You know it's gonna work. You

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<v Speaker 7>know where it's at it, Yeah, there's no chance. So

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<v Speaker 7>I think it does give it a more baalid right

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<v Speaker 7>to whoever ends up. It's just a lot more fair

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<v Speaker 7>in that sense. Also, with the time being lower, I

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<v Speaker 7>feel like typically it doesn't take that long for you

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<v Speaker 7>to herman who wins that game when it goes into overtime.

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<v Speaker 7>But also it doesn't drag it along that much either,

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<v Speaker 7>because when you get to that point and going into

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<v Speaker 7>overtime it's you know, four quarter that's a long time

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<v Speaker 7>for players to be out there. It gets exhausting and

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<v Speaker 7>all of that. So I think I'm not too big

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<v Speaker 7>on the even though it's five minutes difference, it's a

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<v Speaker 7>big difference there. If it ever gets to a scenario

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<v Speaker 7>like that. But I like the rule, and just like

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<v Speaker 7>Brian said too, these situations, it's always them trying new things,

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<v Speaker 7>different things, and kind of testing it out and see

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<v Speaker 7>what actually works better and what doesn't, and always keeping

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<v Speaker 7>in mind one the fairness of the game and two

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<v Speaker 7>the health of the players when they're playing out there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'll be interested to see if if this ends

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<v Speaker 6>up leading to more ties because of the reduction in time.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you said, Brian, there is a sign and there's

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<v Speaker 6>a chance that a team could take pretty much the

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<v Speaker 6>entire overtime period. You can get a drive that's a

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<v Speaker 6>good eight nine minutes and then you leave the other

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<v Speaker 6>team with very little time to be on score, especially

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<v Speaker 6>if you can end that with a touchdown. I just

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want. I want to do whatever it takes

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<v Speaker 6>in order to ensure there are fewer ties and there

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<v Speaker 6>are as few ties ties as possible. I agree with

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<v Speaker 6>you Amber, like you don't want to sit through three

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<v Speaker 6>hours of football, three and a half hours of football

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<v Speaker 6>and then go home feeling like my team did they win?

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<v Speaker 6>Did they lose? Like it's just it's a limbo. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't like ties. I think it's better to get a

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<v Speaker 6>winner or a loser. And so for me, I like

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<v Speaker 6>the rule change where both teams get a possession. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't love the idea of taking it from fifteen down

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<v Speaker 6>to ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing that could be, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 3>league has proven that if they do get a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of ties, say in a season, if they implement this

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<v Speaker 3>the next year, they will do something different. Yeah they will.

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<v Speaker 3>They will not sit there and just continually like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to have you know, seven or eight ten

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<v Speaker 3>ties or something like that. We're just not They're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to allow that. So they'll adjust as they see fit.

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<v Speaker 3>That part of it I think is pretty good. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's funny they talk about, you know, the player safety

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<v Speaker 3>and taking it down five minutes, but man, they will

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<v Speaker 3>argue like heck for that eighteenth game. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's gonna be some type of trade off here.

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<v Speaker 6>I will tell you this though, if they go to

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<v Speaker 6>eighteen games, yeah, what I what I would love about

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<v Speaker 6>that is I think in the in the scenarios I've

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<v Speaker 6>heard says they would then do two bye weeks in

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<v Speaker 6>eighteen game season. And if you give me eighteen games,

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<v Speaker 6>but you give me two bye weeks. Actually we have

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<v Speaker 6>a lot better. That makes me a lot better.

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<v Speaker 7>We do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know when I first started working with there

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<v Speaker 3>was a time where we did we had the two

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<v Speaker 3>bye weeks. I believe that we were kind of going through. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it makes it a little bit, you know, it makes

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<v Speaker 3>it a little bit of a longer season and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>But and I in a way, I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 3>like the season's long. I know, I was at the

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl in New Orleans and I felt like baseball

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<v Speaker 3>was right around the corner, you know, kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So but yeah, the league and the players, we're aways

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<v Speaker 3>from that right now. Yeah, but it's it's coming.

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<v Speaker 7>But see to your point with the ten minute thing,

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<v Speaker 7>the reason why I actually do like it is because one,

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<v Speaker 7>with getting the both teams get a position, you bring

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<v Speaker 7>the fairness to it. But then with the time being reduced,

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<v Speaker 7>it also allows you to be strategic, like whoever has

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<v Speaker 7>the ball, they can take that to their advantage. And

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<v Speaker 7>it's still a fair game here, but it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>prolong it as long. But I mean, I still agree

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<v Speaker 7>with you with it. And then with a tie and

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<v Speaker 7>all that, But at the end of the day, I

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<v Speaker 7>think that's when the strategic part of it in the

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<v Speaker 7>game and how you utilize and how you can kill

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<v Speaker 7>time doing that, you can use it to your advantage

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<v Speaker 7>if you're good at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The thing that I think the thing you would

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<v Speaker 3>worry about though, is if you're a team that that

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<v Speaker 3>that gave up the lead to get into overtime, then

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, now you're maybe your defense is

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<v Speaker 3>wore down and your and then the other team gets

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<v Speaker 3>the ball and then they go on a drive and

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<v Speaker 3>then they and you know, now they're like, okay, we

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<v Speaker 3>figured out we got this game tied. Now we've wore

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<v Speaker 3>you down, and how we can run the ball now?

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<v Speaker 3>And and strategically you could say we could score here

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<v Speaker 3>and give them, you know, give them two minutes, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a minute, and then now you know, the momentum is

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<v Speaker 3>clearly with the team that's kind of maybe got to

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<v Speaker 3>the tie. So yeah, there's a lot of strategy that

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<v Speaker 3>you can you can do here.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a very interesting strategic point of who wants the

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<v Speaker 6>ball first, who wants before, and almost all that the

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<v Speaker 6>ball second, because you want to know what you have

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<v Speaker 6>to match. And in this instance you might think the

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<v Speaker 6>same thing, but the reality is you could also have

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<v Speaker 6>if you give them the ball first, you may not

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<v Speaker 6>get the ball back because they may take a majority

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<v Speaker 6>of the time.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's a lot to factor into this strategically.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to drag us down your way down,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'll discuss this, Derek. You know, you and I

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<v Speaker 3>do watch a lot of college football, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>I do like the collegiate rules of overtime, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was my team at LSU suffered and the

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<v Speaker 3>rules were changed after a seven overtime game against Texas

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<v Speaker 3>A and M to where it came, okay, possession, possession,

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<v Speaker 3>and then after possession became you could kick the extra point,

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<v Speaker 3>and then after the second one it was you got

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<v Speaker 3>to go for two. You could get some games that

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<v Speaker 3>can end, you know, pretty quickly there too, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>having to go for two. I think it brings more

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<v Speaker 3>excitement to the game, you know, the fact that it

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<v Speaker 3>can your team get a stop with the other team

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<v Speaker 3>being on the twenty five yard line. And there's some

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<v Speaker 3>teams that aren't very good at red zone offense. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you might play to your advantage, or you might be

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<v Speaker 3>a really good red zone defense. I think the collegiate

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<v Speaker 3>way of deciding the game, to me, is more exciting,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would I wondered why the NFL would never

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<v Speaker 3>look at that way because that that is a an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting way to end a game. Now I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it brings a level of sudden death. That's yes,

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<v Speaker 6>you know you every every play of that overtime and

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<v Speaker 6>your team might score. Yeah, but now let's see what

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<v Speaker 6>the other team can do. Can they match it?

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<v Speaker 7>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>It's it creates a lot of extra drama in game.

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<v Speaker 6>So I actually sometimes getting those games like that seven

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<v Speaker 6>overtime game where you literally like, okay, somebody in this

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<v Speaker 6>this is too well.

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<v Speaker 3>David helm and I were standing there. We were hoping

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<v Speaker 3>that LSU would find a way to end it, and

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<v Speaker 3>Texas A and M wouldn't allow it. Yeah, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's and they changed the rules. But I think you know, score,

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<v Speaker 3>kick the extra point, then have to go for two.

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<v Speaker 3>After that, You're going to see teams come up with

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<v Speaker 3>creative ways to try and run two point plays to

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<v Speaker 3>win a football game. I just think it brings a

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<v Speaker 3>more more exciting element then trying to run the clock

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<v Speaker 3>completely down and give the other team no chance. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's move on. Let's talk about the kickoffs. That the

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<v Speaker 3>touchback is now being moved. Instead of being going to

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<v Speaker 3>the thirty yard line automatically, it now moves to the

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<v Speaker 3>thirty five yard right. Some would say that that's only

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<v Speaker 3>five yards, but it actually, I think is a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>pretty significant thing when you think about the fact you

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<v Speaker 3>only need a twenty twenty five yards to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to get in a field goal range. For Dallas needs

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<v Speaker 3>ten Dallas Dallas to get one first down there in

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<v Speaker 3>field goal range. So yeah, you know, yeah, you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, I mean interrupt you there, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just but yeah, to me, it's it's going to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want to I think there's some teams that

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<v Speaker 3>will still kick the ball out of the end zone.

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<v Speaker 3>Playing the Cowboys, I think if you look at what

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<v Speaker 3>Turpin was able to do as a returner, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>bring he could bring the ball out past the thirty

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<v Speaker 3>five I mean, I I me, personally, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>let him bring the ball out to the fifty yard line.

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<v Speaker 3>I's capable of doing that. I'm just gonna kick it

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<v Speaker 3>into the end zone and make you play and make

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<v Speaker 3>myself play defense at the thirty five. I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>If anything that it helps, anything that will help Cavanti

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<v Speaker 6>Turpin get the ball in his hands. Yeah, frequently, I'm four.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>I think things teams might still opt for teams that

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<v Speaker 6>have a player like Cavante Turpin. They maybe say, hey, we'll.

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<v Speaker 5>Take thirty, We'll take the thing now the killer.

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<v Speaker 6>As you mentioned, the big deal is you also have

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<v Speaker 6>a kicker who can kick from a long That's where

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<v Speaker 6>it's very interesting dynamic for the Cowboys that maybe other

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<v Speaker 6>teams don't have. Is the range of a kicker in

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<v Speaker 6>combined with a really great cat kick returner. That will

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<v Speaker 6>make it a bit more of a chat challenging decision

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<v Speaker 6>for opponents.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a double edged sore, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, what.

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<v Speaker 7>We got in both ways? No, No, it's exciting. It's

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<v Speaker 7>exciting because I remember the times where that wasn't the case,

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<v Speaker 7>where you had players that you couldn't necessarily rely on

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<v Speaker 7>when it came to those plays and special teams. So uh,

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<v Speaker 7>very very benefiting for the house.

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<v Speaker 6>This was another rules change I thought was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>They've expanded replay assists, so essentially what people don't know

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<v Speaker 6>what that term is. It's basically when the booth can

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<v Speaker 6>make a call from the booth.

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<v Speaker 3>Or call down face mask yeah on the zone.

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<v Speaker 5>So there are.

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<v Speaker 6>Five different rules now, and there are five different penalties

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<v Speaker 6>that the booth can overturn from the booth. They are

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<v Speaker 6>hitting the defensives player face mask, horse collar, tackle, tripping, roughing,

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<v Speaker 6>or running into the kicker.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you guys think?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay with that? I mean, I you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>we all watch foot and I remember a game where

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<v Speaker 3>Minnesota was playing against the Rams late in the year

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<v Speaker 3>and there was a clear face mass penalty, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on on Sam Darnell and and you know, and and

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<v Speaker 3>they and the officials missed it. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>Vikings were trying to drive and and they but they

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<v Speaker 3>missed the call. And so here you are, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>your team, you know, if you're in that situation, you're like, oing, gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>how how do you miss that call? You know? I

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<v Speaker 3>always the roughing the kicker and the running into the

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<v Speaker 3>kicker one I don't quite know. I guess if you

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<v Speaker 3>just completely destroy the the punter, it's you know, or

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<v Speaker 3>it's roughing, And if you just kind of run into

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<v Speaker 3>I guess because there's sometimes it's called one way or another.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I need some help there, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>think some of sometimes the officials, some officials just are

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<v Speaker 3>just they're adamant, like now that's running into that's no,

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<v Speaker 3>that's actually roughing. Last week I watched the game that

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<v Speaker 3>was roughing. So yeah, anything to do with that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of help I think makes the game better.

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<v Speaker 6>One thing to note, Brian, in that scenario, they actually

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't have reversed it. The new rule as I read it,

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<v Speaker 6>says that they won't make a call from the booth.

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<v Speaker 5>They can only correct a call.

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<v Speaker 6>So let's say, for example, in that instance, if there

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<v Speaker 6>was a face mask that was not.

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<v Speaker 5>Called, the booth won't call it for them.

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<v Speaker 6>What they will do, though, is if there is a

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<v Speaker 6>face mask pause and they didn't really get again they

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<v Speaker 6>really didn't get the face mask.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the booth can call down and say it's not

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<v Speaker 5>and to be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>With you, so they changed the bad calls.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, they'll take a bad call. They will make a

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<v Speaker 5>call for you.

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<v Speaker 3>That I was the depression that you could if there

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<v Speaker 3>was a call that like, listen, you guys clearly blatantly

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<v Speaker 3>missed the call here.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that's better, Brian, I actually agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they should do that. I think I do

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<v Speaker 6>think that becomes a bit of a challenge because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you know the old adage broke used been offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that, Yeah, there's a there's a penalty probably

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<v Speaker 6>on every place. So if you have somebody in the

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<v Speaker 6>booth who's just literally making a call every time they

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<v Speaker 6>see it, the game would slow down to it.

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<v Speaker 7>Also, we're dynamic when it comes to the referees, like

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<v Speaker 7>down there on the field, and then all of a

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<v Speaker 7>sudden you got somebody saying, hey, you missed this one,

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<v Speaker 7>and then you got to It's very difficult to be

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<v Speaker 7>to make it be seem less and not well mess

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<v Speaker 7>up the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Flow, you know, Amber, I think that the officials nowadays

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<v Speaker 3>have gotten better in a way of understanding that there's

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<v Speaker 3>replay that will back them up. Like we've seen quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 3>get hit in the pocket and the ball like clearly

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<v Speaker 3>ball in hand, flying forward and the next thing you

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<v Speaker 3>know is that should be an incomplete pass and now

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<v Speaker 3>beanbags are flying in as they're calling it a fumble,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think of let it out. They let it

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<v Speaker 3>play out. The officials are like, listen, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>call it a fumble until somebody upstairs tells us ball

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<v Speaker 3>in hand it was forward motion, So you know that's

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of those calls where you're like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not a fumble, but the officials are like, hey, I

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<v Speaker 3>know I have replay backing me up that if I

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<v Speaker 3>make this calling it's wrong, it's going to change and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to move on. I'm okay with that too.

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<v Speaker 6>The one area I think is it glaring omission for

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<v Speaker 6>me is I would love for roughing the passer to

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<v Speaker 6>also be included in this How many times do we

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<v Speaker 6>see calls where they say roughing the passer and then

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<v Speaker 6>you look at the replants like, oh, he really didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>he kind of rushed his shoulder, but it looked maybe

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<v Speaker 6>like he hit him in the head because his head

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<v Speaker 6>snapped because of the violent hit to his shoulder. I

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<v Speaker 6>just think those are situation where I would love because

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<v Speaker 6>because it's so punitive, I would love for those to

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<v Speaker 6>be plays that they could overturn from the booth.

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<v Speaker 3>The roughing the passer penalty that that's the most that

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<v Speaker 3>I understand the most is when you go low on

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<v Speaker 3>a on a quarterback if you go into the knee

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<v Speaker 3>area and stuff and try and those are the ones.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand the ones had that, but that's again player safety.

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<v Speaker 3>For you know, if you're a defensive lineman and you're

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<v Speaker 3>coming through and you're trying to swat at the ball

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<v Speaker 3>and you hit the quarterback in the head, the rules

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<v Speaker 3>are pretty clear you can't hit the quarterback in the head,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but maybe some of those can be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe changed.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like we're a lot in recent years. What

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<v Speaker 7>are we're playing flag football here? Like what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 7>Like is this football or not? Like I think it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to I can't recall one game specifically, but I

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<v Speaker 7>know there are being quite a few that we've seen.

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<v Speaker 7>You're like, this is getting out of control, Like this

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<v Speaker 7>is ridiculous with some of those calls that are being called,

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<v Speaker 7>like for a guy for example, Micah and the way

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<v Speaker 7>that they're rushing and getting those sacks. So I think

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<v Speaker 7>I agree with you, Derek. I mean, hopefully eventually in

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<v Speaker 7>the future that's something that can continue to improve.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is another one with Brian.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the college game may happen a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>with the targeting call for instance, I think I don't

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<v Speaker 6>love the idea of getting the player based out getting

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<v Speaker 6>kicked out until the next like the four quarters.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't love that.

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<v Speaker 6>But I do think the idea of if you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to do something so punitive, at least allow it to

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<v Speaker 6>be reviewed and by somebody on camera to say, yes.

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<v Speaker 5>This definitely was roughing the passer, this definitely was targeting.

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<v Speaker 6>Or if it's not, because we've seen that also happen

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<v Speaker 6>where you go and you look at you like, that

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<v Speaker 6>really wasn't targeting, and so they'll overturn it. Players, fine,

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<v Speaker 6>I think you should do the same thing with something

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<v Speaker 6>like you know, rough in the passy.

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<v Speaker 7>For years, being around you guys for years, I've and

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<v Speaker 7>again I don't watch much college football whatsoever you guys do.

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<v Speaker 7>But here's where I'm always confused. You guys always bring

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<v Speaker 7>college football and the way that it's managed and handled.

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<v Speaker 7>Why is it so Why is it so different than NFL? Like,

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<v Speaker 7>if they see things that are being successful ye in college,

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<v Speaker 7>why not apply it into the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>It's television. It's a three hour game as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>a four hour game. That's it to me. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the college rules that would apply to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a specific window of how they stagger games

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. And I don't think the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>wants games going four hours. I really really don't. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I think there's a lot of things there

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<v Speaker 3>that say, Okay, we have to keep our game within

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<v Speaker 3>that twelve to three, and then the next one is

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<v Speaker 3>three to six, and then the next one is too

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's why a lot of these some

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<v Speaker 3>of these not these rules and these rule changes aren't

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<v Speaker 3>always the same. I just don't think that the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>wants a four hour or five hour game on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that's why they don't do some of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that they do.

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<v Speaker 6>And let's be clear, like it's just two completely different

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<v Speaker 6>bodies running them, with different interests and different things they're considering.

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<v Speaker 6>And so it's not going to ever be a situation

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<v Speaker 6>where the NFL is like, Okay, well let's look at

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<v Speaker 6>the college game and see how we can get closer,

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<v Speaker 6>or the college games and look at say, let's look

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<v Speaker 6>at the NFL games, see how we can get closer.

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<v Speaker 6>They exist as two different bodies, they're two different leagues,

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<v Speaker 6>two different bodies, and so they're always going to operate separately,

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<v Speaker 6>which means their rules are going to evolve in different ways,

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<v Speaker 6>and sometimes you will see a rule happened in one

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<v Speaker 6>that precipitates a rule in the other. Like I think

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<v Speaker 6>targeting became an issue after the NFL started talking about

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<v Speaker 6>player safety from the standpoint of hitting depensiless receivers, hitting

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<v Speaker 6>quarterbacks late, and the college response to that was targeting,

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to protect this particular We're gonna protect players

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<v Speaker 6>from this particular action.

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<v Speaker 5>And as a result, these will be the punitive rules.

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<v Speaker 6>So they were trying to do the same things, they

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<v Speaker 6>just did it in different ways, right, the penalties were

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<v Speaker 6>different in college versus then.

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<v Speaker 3>As we kind of wrap this up, though, I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of feel like, though that to me, the one rule

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<v Speaker 3>i'd like to see change that the colleges do do

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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL maybe adopt is pass interference. That is,

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<v Speaker 3>and you use the word punitive, that that is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most punitive penalties that you could ever endure,

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<v Speaker 3>either for you or against you. You know, mainly against you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you know forty four forty five fifty yard penalties

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<v Speaker 3>for pass interference. To me, you know, the rules really

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<v Speaker 3>do favor offensive football. You have to give the defense

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<v Speaker 3>something as far as rules go, and to me, a

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen yard you know penalty is significant. I mean, are

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<v Speaker 3>excusing is sufficient for my take because, like I say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know so, past interference is just Sometimes it's called correctly,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes it's called incorrectly. You get a forty four yard

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<v Speaker 3>penalty against you that's been called incorrectly. That is big.

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<v Speaker 3>That is big. I'd like to see the NFL adopt that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they ever will.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, we're gonna take our first break. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>come back. We're gonna talk safeties, lots to talk about there.

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<v Speaker 6>let's talk to safeties.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a.

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<v Speaker 6>Position that I think, on paper, seems to be one

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<v Speaker 6>of the more stable positions on the team. You got

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<v Speaker 6>Malie Cooker, you got Donovan Wilson. They've been starters for

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<v Speaker 6>a few years. They are both back, they're both under contract.

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<v Speaker 6>Neither one is, as we know, holding out or anything.

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<v Speaker 6>So it seems like it's a very stable position. But

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<v Speaker 6>that being said, they have some young guys Yanye Thomas,

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<v Speaker 6>Marquee spell Israel Makuamu. Do you think that this is

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<v Speaker 6>a position that really is that why I should say

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<v Speaker 6>it like this?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that a good thing?

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<v Speaker 6>Or does Dallas really need to do more at this

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<v Speaker 6>position than just rely on Malie Cooker and Donovan Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Derek, I think the fact that you know that

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I've heard you know from thirty visits potentially

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<v Speaker 3>for the Cowboys with mcuba from the University of Texas

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<v Speaker 3>safety very I love outstanding safety, six foot eighty six pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>He can cover, h he tackles, he gets his hands

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<v Speaker 3>on the football, playmaker this guy. I mean, Texas has

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<v Speaker 3>got a very good secondary and you know, with with

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<v Speaker 3>Baron and mcuba and Muhammad, they've got some guys that

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<v Speaker 3>can absolutely play.

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<v Speaker 5>Cat babies was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so yeah, So to me, this is this

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<v Speaker 3>is one of those things that the Cowboys were talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it as we seem to be okay here, everything's fine. No,

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<v Speaker 3>they really you know, if they could upgrade Hooker and

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<v Speaker 3>they could upgrade Wilson and with a guy like maccuba. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 3>you know this is this is where I think, And

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<v Speaker 3>now how early would you have to do this? Forty four?

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<v Speaker 3>I think mccouba is one of the best safety.

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<v Speaker 5>Second round guy in the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, you would have to hit him in the second

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<v Speaker 3>round if you're interested in doing this, and they might

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely consider that because of all the things I just

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<v Speaker 3>talked about, find me a guy can you can you

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<v Speaker 3>say with certainty Hooker really covers, Wilson really covers where

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<v Speaker 3>they tackle really really well. Boy, they get their hands

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<v Speaker 3>on a lot of balls. That's that's that's all very

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<v Speaker 3>much up for debate. Yeah, so no, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>it's if you want to ask me a position that

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<v Speaker 3>people aren't talking about near enough for this football team. Safety,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one as far as drafting goes. Yes, I think

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<v Speaker 3>they're open to that. And the fact that they've identified

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 3>but Kuba as one of those guys, I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>a step in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 7>Honestly, I think I would be okay with the great

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<v Speaker 7>and I agree with Brian, you definitely need if you

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<v Speaker 7>can upgrade the position, for sure, But I would be

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<v Speaker 7>okay with the group of guys that Derek mentioned and

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<v Speaker 7>listed if I felt a lot better about the cornerback position.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel that the corners right now, you we need

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<v Speaker 7>to fix what's going on there. Right now, you don't

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<v Speaker 7>really have much, I mean other than there On Bland,

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 7>that's a solid guy, proven. You got Trevon Diggs that's

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<v Speaker 7>coming back from the injury. There's still a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>question marks surrounding him and everybody else. Aside from those

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 7>two persons, you still don't know how well can they

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<v Speaker 7>you know, turn.

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<v Speaker 3>Out to though.

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<v Speaker 5>Does he does Elm factor in that for you at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think that to me, if where I would

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<v Speaker 3>if you're if if Matt Eberflus is going to play

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of press coverage, man up you know and

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<v Speaker 3>play that's where Elam really that's his strength. You ask

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<v Speaker 3>him to play zone or off carverage. But I agree

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 3>with with Ambar there there are so many questions that

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<v Speaker 3>at corner, and I think Elam addresses the spot of

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<v Speaker 3>a size guy with physicality that could play up. You know,

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 3>they could play that press. If you're going to play

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of zone, man Ambar's right, you better go

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>get you some corners. You don't know with Diggs, I

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 3>mean we're seeing clips of digs working and all that.

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 3>That's that's super positive. You know that he can. You

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 3>know that he wants to to get back on the

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<v Speaker 3>field as quickly as possible. But man, you know there's

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<v Speaker 3>reasons why that. Teams, our people have talked about Dallas

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<v Speaker 3>at a corner at twelve. You know Will Johnson from

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan six too, you know, two hundred and six pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there there are some conversations about these guys,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is a very deep draft when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to corners, whether you want to get a guy with

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<v Speaker 3>size or you want to get a guy that's a

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<v Speaker 3>nickel player. So Dallas is absolutely, I believe in the

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<v Speaker 3>market for for looking just what Amber said, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is you're really down to it. You would feel

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<v Speaker 3>a lot better if if Carson had played better last year,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but the learning curve, the injuries, all those problems,

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 3>he just didn't get that. Hopefully this offseason will be

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 3>good for him. But you know, we've heard this before.

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<v Speaker 3>We've done it with the wide receivers. Oh we want

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<v Speaker 3>these wide receivers. Oh they're going to make a jump

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<v Speaker 3>and all that. You say that and then they get

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<v Speaker 3>in the season and they really don't make that jump,

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<v Speaker 3>So she's absolutely right about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, and then with Alan, I mean we talked about

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<v Speaker 7>the experience that he has and all that, but again

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 7>it's still you haven't seen it here yet, so there's

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 7>still question marks around that and how this new system like,

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<v Speaker 7>how everything's going to start coming together and clicking. And

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<v Speaker 7>with safeties, I think I always see it as a

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<v Speaker 7>supporting role right to the corners. So I think with

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<v Speaker 7>you not being as solid as you would like to

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<v Speaker 7>be in the cornerback, sorry, in the cornerback position, now

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<v Speaker 7>you're leaving these safeties, forcing them or putting them in

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<v Speaker 7>a quote unquote bad position where they're having to do

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<v Speaker 7>a lot more, trying to do more than what maybe

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<v Speaker 7>they're capable of at the time based on the current

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 7>talent that the team has. So absolutely if there is

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<v Speaker 7>an opportunity to upgrade the position, for sure, But if

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<v Speaker 7>you upgrade cornerback and get that group really solid where

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<v Speaker 7>you feel good about it, I think I would feel

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<v Speaker 7>a lot better about the curring guys on the roster

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 7>when it comes to the safeties.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, we weren't supposed to talk about cornerbacks yet, what

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 6>kind of go. But what we're gonna do is we're

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 6>just gonna shift because that's what Amber brought us and

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 6>that's what we're gonna do. So that being said, here's

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 6>my question on cornerback. What do you think right now?

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 6>Like there, I hear what you're saying, Amber, and I

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 6>agree wholeheartedly. The bigger concern for me right now is

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 6>who is your day one slot? Because you know you

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 6>could possibly move land in. You just create one problem.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 6>You just basically take a problem from one place to

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 6>put in another. But who is the slot? Who's the

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 6>guy that's going to be your third cornerback? At this point,

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 6>I don't even know if they have a real option

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 6>right now for that person.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you guys think about that?

0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 6>And does that necessitate really at the Cowboys have to

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<v Speaker 6>maybe look at the first at least the first two

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 6>picks to find a corner because they're gonna need him

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<v Speaker 6>to play this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's the options that the options at twelve and

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<v Speaker 3>forty four are clearly there, depending on and we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>what will Johnson. I mentioned him before it at Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>What you know he's going to run. There's several corners

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<v Speaker 3>that have first round ability that are on that board.

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<v Speaker 3>But the problem is there some of them are coming

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<v Speaker 3>off injury. Revell from East Carolina might be the best

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<v Speaker 3>corner in the draft, but he hurt his knee, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to start the season, missed the entire year. Morrison from

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame has a has a hip problem, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fine player in his own right, probably a first round player.

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<v Speaker 3>Could one of these guys show up at forty four

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<v Speaker 3>for the Cowboys? You know, there's there's people that you

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<v Speaker 3>know sometimes they they these corners will fall through the

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<v Speaker 3>draft if they're banged up a little bit, and and

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<v Speaker 3>Revel could be a guy. Boy, that would be just

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<v Speaker 3>a huge steal for the Cowboys if all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>say they were to take a receiver at twelve, and

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<v Speaker 3>then all of a sudden one of those corners are

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<v Speaker 3>there at at forty four, boy, that would be that

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<v Speaker 3>would that would be just you know, you couldn't ask

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<v Speaker 3>from a better gift from the draft GUIDs if that

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<v Speaker 3>was the case. But yeah, this to your point, Derek,

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's going to be guys that are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to fill the nickel role that maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>can't grab in the third round. You know, Perish from

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas State is an example of that. Mohammed from Oregon. Guy,

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>these are shorter guys. These are five ten, five nine guys,

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<v Speaker 3>but extremely quick, but able to kind of cover all

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<v Speaker 3>that ground. They might be in the market of having

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<v Speaker 3>to draft their corner or their draft their nickel because

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the now. Not having a fourth round

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<v Speaker 3>pick as you sit right now, you know, maybe they

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<v Speaker 3>can't find a way to get that back or get

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<v Speaker 3>an extra three if they move down a few spots,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's where you would maybe address your secondary as well.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me shift the conversation just a tiny bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about guards, Yeah, you talk about.

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<v Speaker 7>It's still about the corners. No, it's still about the corners,

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<v Speaker 7>but it was gonna I wanted to pose a different

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<v Speaker 7>questions to you guys and take it as sick.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't have starters right now.

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<v Speaker 7>Derek tv On, We know he got injured last season

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<v Speaker 7>during the time that he played. What would be your

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<v Speaker 7>final assessment of how he was playing last year when

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<v Speaker 7>he was healthy on the field. Good question Himber You

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<v Speaker 6>before the break throw back out there.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you were asking about the squad and we talked

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<v Speaker 7>about the need there, but I wanted to post the

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<v Speaker 7>other question in regards to Tremon Diggs and what was

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<v Speaker 7>your final assessment of him and the way that he

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<v Speaker 7>was playing last year when he was healthy on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a thought on that one, boss.

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<v Speaker 6>I know I heard a lot of people giving him

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of criticism. I don't know that I necessarily

0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 6>feel like it was always warranted. Now, that's the thing

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 6>about cornerback. You're not going to be perfect. Like every

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 6>cornerback is going to have moments. We did see him

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 6>in some moments last season where he got beat, but

0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 6>that's also a part.

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<v Speaker 5>Of being a cornerback.

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<v Speaker 6>My question is more around like, did we see the

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<v Speaker 6>kind of game changing plays that we had seen his

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<v Speaker 6>in earlier years of his career, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>we saw those as much.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Could that be because teams weren't throwing at him as much?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, but that would be more. What I

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<v Speaker 6>would question is when it came down to those game

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<v Speaker 6>changes plays, I don't think those were there as much

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<v Speaker 6>as they've been in the past. And I'm interested to

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 6>see if that was just a function of how teams

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 6>were playing against him, the level of competition against him.

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<v Speaker 5>Or just his ability to actually make those plays.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think to me, there was there was far

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<v Speaker 3>too many of these plays where you saw receptions, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you saw like you know, you're kind of I think

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 3>there was. He gave up thirty three of them, I

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<v Speaker 3>think last year when he was playing and and you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>why is he not up? Why is he not more connected?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is he not And we've all we've seen him

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<v Speaker 3>at times be he's one of those guys that tends

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<v Speaker 3>to play on field. You know, he kind of can,

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 3>he could run with guys, he could stay in position.

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<v Speaker 3>He's we've seen him before. He's very much and when

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 3>it comes to putting himself into position to make plays,

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 3>he could do that. A lot of his interceptions are

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<v Speaker 3>input himself or maybe the ball just kind of comes

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<v Speaker 3>to him, and but that's part of putting yourself in position.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there were too many times last year where

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<v Speaker 3>you watched him in the route and it just you

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<v Speaker 3>just felt he watching him. You felt he was really

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<v Speaker 3>disconnected that you know, it was the catch and now

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 3>he's driving the catch and now he's driving. And in

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<v Speaker 3>times past where we've seen him play really really tight

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 3>drive on the ball, knock the ball down, it might

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<v Speaker 3>have had to do with his knee. It might have

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<v Speaker 3>had to do with some confidence or lack of confidence

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<v Speaker 3>that he could really explode and go make a player

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 3>go run with the guy inside. But there were just

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<v Speaker 3>far too many snaps last year where he just played disconnected,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know that that's something I think that was

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest concern for me.

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<v Speaker 6>And I can't remember the games, but there were it

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<v Speaker 6>seems like there were like at least two or three

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<v Speaker 6>times last year when he was in position the ball

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<v Speaker 6>came and it hit his hands and hit the ground,

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<v Speaker 6>and in the past that would have been an interception, right,

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<v Speaker 6>And that's those were the areas where I was more like, again,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't I don't mind my corner getting beat from times,

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<v Speaker 6>like I think that's just a part of the game.

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<v Speaker 5>You play good wide.

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<v Speaker 6>Receivers, you're gonna get beat. The What I love about

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<v Speaker 6>Diggs's game is he makes you pay though. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 6>might beat him some, but he's gonna get you. And

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 6>when he gets you, he's gonna make a game changing

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 6>type play. So in order for him to have that

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 6>style of game and be as valuable as he is

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 6>as he has been to this team, that means he's

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 6>gonna have to make those big plays going the other way.

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 5>So when he gets those opportunities and.

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<v Speaker 6>The ball gets there and he's there and his hands

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 6>are there, he's got to come away with the ball.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's where I was a little bit like, ugh,

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 6>that's that's not like Diggs. That's not that's not like him.

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<v Speaker 6>He makes that play usually he plays cornerback like a receiver.

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<v Speaker 6>And so that those are the things I think the

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 6>stick out to me more last year than even the

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 6>times when he got beat And.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some of the things that came up to

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<v Speaker 3>were the miss tackles. You know that that was something

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 3>when the ball would spill and then there's times when

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 3>he would be physical and step up. But you know,

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 3>if you go and look at the metrics, you know

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 3>he was credited with twelve miss tackles last year.

0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 7>And that's my concern. Like when you talk about his

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 7>game and he one of the biggest criticisms towards him

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 7>is his lack of physicality when it comes to tackling

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 7>and that, oh, is he just afraid of tackling And

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 7>now that he got paid and all that, well, that's

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 7>the question mark for me because even last year when

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 7>you look at his game. I think it's safe to

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 7>say that it took a decline, like his game decline

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 7>then from what he was prior to that and after

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 7>him getting injured. Now you add the injury part to it,

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 7>and now it becomes even more concerning with him coming back.

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 7>What is the level that he's going to come back

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 7>to and how that's gonna look like. And so it's

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 7>just an extra added element to the lack of let's say,

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 7>who's going to play at the slot position there, and

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 7>it's just lots of question mark. The only guy that

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 7>I feel very secure is their own Bland right now.

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think here's the thing.

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 6>I want to see, how tenacious uh Trayvon is in

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 6>coming back from the injury. How how much does he

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 6>attack the rehab how much does he does he really

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 6>kind of get out there and push it to get

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 6>him Because I have no doubt in Trayvon's ability. He's

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 6>shown it the level of capability that he has. And

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 6>I don't you know that, Yes we can. You can

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 6>talk about the plays that you know from a tackling

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 6>standpoint where maybe it wasn't great, But at the end

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 6>of the day, what I know about the guys. When

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 6>he's playing at his at his top level, he can

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<v Speaker 6>be one of the best cornerbacks in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 6>So my question is, just if whatever we saw last

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<v Speaker 6>year was remnants of the knee from the year before

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever it was, can he attack this rehab in

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<v Speaker 6>a way to where he gets himself ready and next

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<v Speaker 6>time he's on the field he is mentally and physically

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<v Speaker 6>at top notch best case, I mean, best version of

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<v Speaker 6>Trayvon Diggs, then I think he can be again one

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<v Speaker 6>of the best cornerbacks in the league.

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<v Speaker 5>And so that's what I'll be looking for.

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<v Speaker 6>I know he's capable, it's just a question of whether

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<v Speaker 6>it ends up being that once he's back on the field.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, let's uh, let's move on. Let's talk a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit more. Actually we got a we only got

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<v Speaker 6>a couple of minutes here real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>Before we end. I did have a question back on

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<v Speaker 5>the quote on the topic of safeties.

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<v Speaker 6>What are the chances that some of those younger guys

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<v Speaker 6>like Thomas Bell and Makuamo actually overtake Hooker or Wilson,

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<v Speaker 6>uh for starting jobs or even for more playing time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's always a possibility. I I know visit with

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Zimmer last year before the season started. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a very he was a fan of Hooker and he

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<v Speaker 3>was a fan of of Wilson. And that's why you

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<v Speaker 3>saw those guys get the opportunities. Kind of a step

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<v Speaker 3>back for Bell, you know, we saw Bell. Bell was

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<v Speaker 3>when you're leading tackler the year before, playing linebacker, hang linebacker,

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<v Speaker 3>playing out a position, you're kind of thinking, well, man,

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<v Speaker 3>how can you keep a guy off the field. That

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<v Speaker 3>that's tough, you know, And you know, Mike had his

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<v Speaker 3>reasons for why he wanted to play Hooker and why

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to play Wilson, and you know, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you know that's that's fine, you know, but no longer here,

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Matt Eberflu's here, and we'll see hopefully that Bell and

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas both get opportunity this year. And but the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that they're they're talking to or the possibly of bringing

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<v Speaker 3>guys in for you know, thirty visits that are that

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<v Speaker 3>are high quality safeties, tells me that Eberflus might be like, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>we could upgrade a couple of different spots. You might

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<v Speaker 3>want to upgrade the starters and the backups will get

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity I think that there's some things about Bell

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<v Speaker 3>that are that in coverage and toughness and all that,

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<v Speaker 3>you can absolutely play him, and you could do the

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<v Speaker 3>very same with Thomas. Thomas is a really good cover guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that we're I wouldn't I would put

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<v Speaker 3>the starters of Hooker and Wilson in pencil right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I would not put them in pen I would I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that position is is very much in in

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<v Speaker 3>in flux right now, which will see when we get

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<v Speaker 3>to opening day. You know who exactly the starters are.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they have some questions about that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I totally agree with those two guys. Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 7>would be right now, the two at the top. But

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<v Speaker 7>what's cool about this as far as these guys and

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<v Speaker 7>the opportunities is that they have a legit chance of

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<v Speaker 7>actually going out there training camp competing for a legit

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<v Speaker 7>spot or even starting spot. So nothing is solidified right now.

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<v Speaker 7>I think anyone in the list right now can fight

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<v Speaker 7>for a spot and make their name known. And again

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<v Speaker 7>we'll see what happens during the draft and who else

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<v Speaker 7>comes into the mix here, but anyone on the list

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<v Speaker 7>right now has a good fighting chance.

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<v Speaker 3>There's Quale in this draft, though, there's as you follow

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<v Speaker 3>the three days here in Dallas Cowboys dot Com, there

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<v Speaker 3>are quality safeties in their quality corners. If they want

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<v Speaker 3>to address those positions, you should feel good about them

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<v Speaker 3>getting one or two guys out of that group that

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<v Speaker 3>can make a difference on your football team.

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<v Speaker 6>All Right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We will

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<v Speaker 6>be back next Tuesday. We'll have a more content for

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<v Speaker 6>you guys. We'll be talking I'm sorry next Wednesday. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 6>next Wednesday, and we'll talk about wide receiver and probably

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:09.800
<v Speaker 6>another position.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll see if we have enough time for that one.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see how it goes and see if Amberg throws

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<v Speaker 6>any other curveballs at us, changes up a little bit rundown,

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see for Brian brod us in Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleton.

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