Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl Drama Girl, all about them
Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
Speaker 1: our comic Girl Cheering for the drama Queen's Girl Fashion.
Speaker 1: But you're tough girls. You could sit with us Girl
Speaker 1: Drama Queens Drama Queen's DRAWNA, Queen's Drama Drawn MC, Queen's Drama,
Speaker 1: Queen's You Guys, Season four episode um were dressed up
Speaker 1: Queen dressed out. My gosh, I'm so jealous. I didn't
Speaker 1: get the medal. No, you're traveling for work. No, but
Speaker 1: I just I just cleaned my office and found my
Speaker 1: crown and I was like, oh, this is so nice.
Speaker 1: So I put it on top of the bottle of
Speaker 1: your whiskey, which is in my house, and it's sitting
Speaker 1: there on my bar. And I didn't bring it with me,
Speaker 1: and I should have. But you both look very beautiful.
Speaker 1: Promp prom queens. Indeed, you're like basically filming out of
Speaker 1: castle right now, so you're This episode originally aired February one,
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, A real follow up to Our Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day Show on the Day from the residue of Nathan's
Speaker 1: pre prom party has serious repercussions for everyone in Tree Hill.
Speaker 1: Hayley asks Nathan for a list of all his past
Speaker 1: sexual conquests. Oh my God, do not ever do that.
Speaker 1: Rachel is suspended after taking the blame for the exam
Speaker 1: that she stole with Brooke. Peyton tells Lucas she wants
Speaker 1: to skip the prom entirely, but he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: take no for an answer, And finally, Marvin McFadden and
Speaker 1: Brooke must deal with dating clean teens on pro cuties.
Speaker 1: This episode was directed by our very own Paul Johansson
Speaker 1: and he crushed it. Wow prom episode. This is so fun.
Speaker 1: I love I love the big episodes like this. This
Speaker 1: one was a huge one. I was so I had
Speaker 1: so much to say about this episode, and I'm upset
Speaker 1: that I'm not going to be here for this entire podcast,
Speaker 1: But I have to like First, Hillary, you are such
Speaker 1: a good actress the scenes that you did, Like, it
Speaker 1: was so nice to see Peyton take a turn from
Speaker 1: being um. You've gone through all the phases of like weepy,
Speaker 1: and then you were having fun for a while and
Speaker 1: now it's like you're just get angry and we haven't
Speaker 1: seen Peyton do that in a way that is so
Speaker 1: confident and solid. Like I've seen Peyton throw a fit before,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've seen Peyton just kind of
Speaker 1: come into her a confidence in her own of like
Speaker 1: everything is shifted and you put everything emotionally into place. Um,
Speaker 1: with how you felt about what Brooke and Nathan did
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, that's it. I know exactly where
Speaker 1: I stand right now, and I'm it was just so
Speaker 1: solid and the and then the emotional turn that you
Speaker 1: had with Brooke in the yard, um, it was just
Speaker 1: like talking about your mom. Mom. It made me cry
Speaker 1: and I'm driving and I was like, stop crying, I'm driving.
Speaker 1: It was really really good. So well that well, thanks.
Speaker 1: I think that we were all really lucky that in
Speaker 1: this big episode we had Paul directing, because Paul knew
Speaker 1: us man, Paul knew the ship that was going on
Speaker 1: in real life. He knew all the stuff our characters
Speaker 1: that had to do before, you know, And I think
Speaker 1: everyone turned in really good performances this episode. And so
Speaker 1: while we have you, I want to talk about yours
Speaker 1: because it is so um. It makes that like your
Speaker 1: throat burn when you think about asking your partner to
Speaker 1: make a sex list, like oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Basically we're doing the thing that you do in horror
Speaker 1: films and were like, Haley, don't come in the hou
Speaker 1: and she's so pregnant and hormonal. But it's so the
Speaker 1: writing I thought was fully areas on this one. The
Speaker 1: fact that I got to be so irrational and just
Speaker 1: out of control, I didn't find it irrational at all.
Speaker 1: You totally made it. It made sense to me. Oh thanks, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was really fun. I was surprid that was another
Speaker 1: this episode I had a lot of I remembered being
Speaker 1: in the rooms. This is the episode I slapped Rachel too,
Speaker 1: right or was that the no? That was the last one? Remember, yes,
Speaker 1: that was the last one. It was the last one, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so that one I wasn't here for you and James
Speaker 1: have such great comedy in this, and it's very Katherine
Speaker 1: hepp Burn, Spencer Tracy. It's fast. It's like try to
Speaker 1: keep up, you know, that's Hayley's energy. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: do what I asked you to do, but also don't
Speaker 1: do what I asked you to do, and you two
Speaker 1: are getting to do funny stuff maybe for the first time, Like,
Speaker 1: you guys have been very sweet together. You've had fights,
Speaker 1: you've been vulnerable and emotional, but you're being funny together.
Speaker 1: I was glad that they didn't write Hayley's reaction to
Speaker 1: this as like another big, overwhelming, sad, sulky like, you know,
Speaker 1: how could you do this? I don't know who? I like,
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to mope. I was so happy
Speaker 1: that she was just kind of a grown up about it, like, wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: it's not that you're mad that he made the tape.
Speaker 1: It's that you're mad that he still light. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: you use it? It's so horrible. It's so horrible, and
Speaker 1: the natural fear because don't forget in the prior episode,
Speaker 1: when everyone's yelling, oh my god, Nathan and Peyton made
Speaker 1: a sex tape. Peyton comes running screaming turn it off,
Speaker 1: turn it off. Haley witnesses all of this. So Haley
Speaker 1: turns and looks at her husband and goes, oh, old,
Speaker 1: Nathan video taped every time he had sex with a girl,
Speaker 1: Like that camcorder was set up in his bedroom. It
Speaker 1: was like to go get it. It was there, it
Speaker 1: was there, and why was it already there well, So
Speaker 1: essentially the discovery of oh, you have this whole other life,
Speaker 1: this whole other series of proclivities, these fantasies that I
Speaker 1: know nothing about, that can be really hard. I remember
Speaker 1: years and years ago. I don't know what it is now,
Speaker 1: but when I think when we were doing the show,
Speaker 1: it might have even come up because of this episode.
Speaker 1: There was like a big piece that got published about
Speaker 1: how like over of people feel like if their partner
Speaker 1: has a secret porn habit that is cheating, Like that's
Speaker 1: a really intense thing to find out that someone has
Speaker 1: a whole sex life that has nothing to do with you.
Speaker 1: And I loved that we were able to talk about
Speaker 1: the reality of how complicated it is to figure out
Speaker 1: what the person you love likes that has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with you. But we did it in a funny way.
Speaker 1: It's like it gave people permission to have the conversation.
Speaker 1: But to your point, Joy, it wasn't Moby, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like hitting us over the head with another dramatic thing,
Speaker 1: and I loved it. I also have to say something
Speaker 1: about this tape. I have to say something. Chilly and
Speaker 1: I talked about this last so upset about this because
Speaker 1: this is actually this is really fed up. And look,
Speaker 1: I get that the point was that Brooke essentially was
Speaker 1: going to be told like you betrayed me too, with
Speaker 1: the Peyton and Lucas of it all, and and their
Speaker 1: whole thing is this was one drunk night and you
Speaker 1: had a full emotional affair, and you lied to me
Speaker 1: and you snuck around behind my back. Each person decides
Speaker 1: why the other person is the wrong one. But I
Speaker 1: remember how upset I was when we got this script,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not going to do this,
Speaker 1: like this is so unforgivable, and they gave me this
Speaker 1: whole thing about no, no, no. At the opening of
Speaker 1: four fifteen, Peyton is on a tear. Nathan is doing
Speaker 1: body oots off Bevin. They get in a big screaming
Speaker 1: fight and she dumps him, and then she comes to
Speaker 1: Brook and Brooke is wasted and having a good time
Speaker 1: and says, you don't you hate Nathan. He's mean to you.
Speaker 1: I have I know what you need. Take two of
Speaker 1: these and call me in the morning. And she yanks
Speaker 1: over to like hot guys and like shows them to Peyton,
Speaker 1: and Peyton looks at her and goes, I'm not like you,
Speaker 1: I'm not a two bit in front of everyone and
Speaker 1: walks away. And so when Brooke sits down with Nathan
Speaker 1: and he says, Peyton broke up with me, she says,
Speaker 1: Peyton just like I don't remember what it was, but
Speaker 1: it was essentially like she just said the meanest thing
Speaker 1: anyone's ever said to me. And he looked at her
Speaker 1: and was like want to get back at her, And
Speaker 1: it was like it was like a thing that they
Speaker 1: made a decision on. And for me, when the episode
Speaker 1: aired and I saw that they had cut that out,
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, you don't. Everybody's in the wrong here.
Speaker 1: But when you take away the like core wound context
Speaker 1: that when your best friend has said the merest thing
Speaker 1: like at fifteen that you think anyone can say to you,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I sobbed. When I sob,
Speaker 1: you know what, You're right, because what it turned into
Speaker 1: was kind of gross and creepy, Nathan being like you
Speaker 1: were you were just drunk enough. It was like like
Speaker 1: him taking advantage of a drunk girl. And even further,
Speaker 1: it says it when you get into the bedroom, he's like,
Speaker 1: you need another drink? Like what are we doing here? Exactly,
Speaker 1: and it went from being to two kids. We've talked
Speaker 1: so much about how in like all these ways Nathan
Speaker 1: and Brooke are really similar and like their friendship can
Speaker 1: be this great respite for each other, and and you
Speaker 1: could have seen why these two made this really bad
Speaker 1: decision in the in the versions of themselves they were
Speaker 1: two years ago, and then both tried to pretend it
Speaker 1: never happened and never talked about it again, and like
Speaker 1: Brooke even says, like, I kind of like I was
Speaker 1: really drunk. I kind of wanted it to be a
Speaker 1: bad dream, which is so sad. And it goes from
Speaker 1: being like, oh, that was the worst versions of us
Speaker 1: and now we're better versions of us to just like
Speaker 1: her in particular, being the bad guy, like she really
Speaker 1: gets blamed, and I just felt like it was so cruel,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it made me feel very defensive
Speaker 1: of her, which is probably an insane thing to say
Speaker 1: because she's not an actual person, but she feels like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that you went through seasons and seasons after seasons,
Speaker 1: the episodes of episodes after that, functioning in a certain
Speaker 1: way believing that Brooke just did that just for no reasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just affects me that you look at at your
Speaker 1: performance and who Brooke has been over the last like
Speaker 1: two seasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it and there, and
Speaker 1: there was to be the tie in with Peyton calling
Speaker 1: her that to Peyton putting it on her dress, and
Speaker 1: it was like it was a whole thing like this,
Speaker 1: this like mortal wound. And they took it away, but
Speaker 1: they didn't take away you dumping him, And I was like,
Speaker 1: that's really stub like it gives him an excuse, but
Speaker 1: not her exactly. And I didn't because the excuse that
Speaker 1: Haley and Peyton get the whole time is it didn't
Speaker 1: mean anything. It didn't mean anything. It didn't mean anything,
Speaker 1: which those are just like dumb empty words. If it
Speaker 1: instead had been like, no, you were being a bitch
Speaker 1: that night, like trying to get back at you, and
Speaker 1: I feel really horrible about it. Yeah, you were awful
Speaker 1: to both of us. We did something regrettable, and because
Speaker 1: we regretted it, we buried it. Like, yeah, I could
Speaker 1: have been a more interesting conversation. Anytime someone tells me
Speaker 1: it didn't mean anything, I'm like, do me more, Like
Speaker 1: how many soapb obbaras have you watched? You loser. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: This is one of the things that happens a lot
Speaker 1: with TV. If that's different from film, I think is
Speaker 1: that you know, there's there's people in an office who
Speaker 1: are not artists, and then there's writers UM. And the
Speaker 1: writers are in TV are preoccupied with the next episode
Speaker 1: and everything, and you know, they're all often just trying
Speaker 1: to piece mail things together if something doesn't make sense,
Speaker 1: or if an episodes too long or whatever, and so
Speaker 1: it's everyone except the people responsible for those characters in
Speaker 1: the room making creative decisions about the characters. And it's
Speaker 1: really frustrating it. It happens all the time in UM,
Speaker 1: in TV, and uh, there's nothing that really actors can
Speaker 1: do about it. You just have to show up and
Speaker 1: trust that you know, the people who are working with
Speaker 1: the office people really have your back, and sometimes they
Speaker 1: just they just can't because they're too distractive of too
Speaker 1: many other things, or maybe they don't care. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It can be tough or you have to go um
Speaker 1: what you said, you remember filming this episode, you had
Speaker 1: a really really nice scene with Chad in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that one I just watched like an
Speaker 1: hour ago. What happened, what happened in the kitchen, But
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, talking about Peyton's ex boyfriend in
Speaker 1: the video and Nathan says or Lucas says, well, Nathan's
Speaker 1: not like her ex boyfriend either. You know. She said, like,
Speaker 1: don't be like Peyton's ex boyfriend. You're encouraging to go
Speaker 1: to Peyton, show up for her and don't be like
Speaker 1: her ex boyfriend. And he's like, niced to Nathan because
Speaker 1: he's not like her ex boyfriend either. Yeah, you two
Speaker 1: had such a good chemistry in that scene and Lucas
Speaker 1: is being Lucas bounced and back and forth between Brook
Speaker 1: and Payton again. Yeah, you're the person that lets the
Speaker 1: audience see him like for the good Boy. I always
Speaker 1: miss seeing Haley and Lucas on camera because we started
Speaker 1: the show that way. It was so much Lucas and
Speaker 1: so whenever we get to see them together again, and
Speaker 1: I even you know, I search out at at an
Speaker 1: event um recently, and um, it just it does. It's like,
Speaker 1: no matter how much time goes by, no matter what,
Speaker 1: it just feels like you've been through so much together.
Speaker 1: It's family. It's like you just it's a comfort level
Speaker 1: and it was like, man, we could easily be walking
Speaker 1: down the street, um down Front Street right now again.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's great. I love I love Lucas
Speaker 1: and healing. I think it's also nice to see, you know,
Speaker 1: Nathan's taking a lot of responsibility going on his apology tour,
Speaker 1: and it's nice to see their brotherly relationship with Lucas
Speaker 1: kind of following Nathan around trying to keep everyone calm
Speaker 1: in the wake of the crisis. Like I didn't even
Speaker 1: realize that that Lucas was doing, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: like a nice seesaw. It's in a way, they're like,
Speaker 1: let's divide and conquer, and so they're sort of like
Speaker 1: rotating around each other trying to solve this problem the brand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed that. I enjoyed, you know, seeing
Speaker 1: Nathan take it on the chin and be the best
Speaker 1: version of himself. And I appreciated that Lucas was reminding
Speaker 1: everyone who their friends really are. You know. He he
Speaker 1: does it for Brooke, and he does it for Haley,
Speaker 1: and he does it for Peyton. He says to Peyton. Look,
Speaker 1: in a way, Lucas is the only person in this episode,
Speaker 1: by the way who says, yeah, they did something dumb
Speaker 1: years ago when they were drunk. We did this thing
Speaker 1: for a long time behind her back, Peyton, you know,
Speaker 1: and he acknowledges it for the first time and she, granted,
Speaker 1: isn't ready to hear it, but it's it's kind of impressive.
Speaker 1: And and and he uses that reality of look, this
Speaker 1: is what we did, and we did it for a
Speaker 1: long time, and it's this is the reality now, and
Speaker 1: and he and then he says, you're better than this.
Speaker 1: My take on Lucas is that he's so pumped that
Speaker 1: he's not at the center of this. Also that for
Speaker 1: so long he was the dip and dump stuff with
Speaker 1: multiple girls, you know, just like, hey man, this is
Speaker 1: my opportunity to like clean the slate. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's but if we all give each other's mistakes that Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just standing in the middle of the hurricane, just
Speaker 1: watching the women in his life, his mother, Hayley Brook,
Speaker 1: everybody's just and and he's just taking it, taking it
Speaker 1: on the chin, trying to handle everybody. Yeah, so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he does. He really does take it on the
Speaker 1: chain because less we forget when him and when Lucas
Speaker 1: and Nathan have their scene. Oh, Nate apologizes and and
Speaker 1: Lucas says something about, you know, I just don't ever
Speaker 1: want to see a tape of you in Peyton. Nathan
Speaker 1: just takes a breath and goes, well, never will because
Speaker 1: Haley destroyed all the tapes in the house. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, Like he just goes ahead
Speaker 1: and says, don't worry about it, man, And it's so
Speaker 1: that was my only confirmation that that existed. Even I
Speaker 1: was like, what, there's tapes, I know. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is really horrible. And I don't know if maybe
Speaker 1: we were talking about this because we were in the
Speaker 1: era of all those reality girls having their sex tapes
Speaker 1: come out. I don't know why this was such a
Speaker 1: big deal, but God, when he just said that, When
Speaker 1: Nathan says that to Lucas was such a straight face
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, I almost fainted. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: but also I have a very strong appreciation for a
Speaker 1: singular tape that can be destroyed, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? In the age of the Internet and in
Speaker 1: the age of like, you know, people downloading things or
Speaker 1: sending them digitally, like having a tape that you can
Speaker 1: rip the physical film Burn and Destroy. What a treat
Speaker 1: I missed the good old days. Yeah, my god, I
Speaker 1: I just want to see Haley with a hammer, just like.
Speaker 1: That's it. I know that I want to see Haley
Speaker 1: with a lighter and a barbecue, like just lighter fluid
Speaker 1: that's on a webber grill outside and burn it, Angelo Bassett.
Speaker 1: It would have been so so, so so funny. It
Speaker 1: would have worked too well. I gotta go. I love
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, well, thanks for joining us, have fun
Speaker 1: in the castle. Great performances in this episode, both of you. Well, same,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah. It's so yeah, there's a lot of like,
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of nuance that I didn't catch
Speaker 1: the first time around. And I'm I'm loving it, and
Speaker 1: I'm also a little uncomfortable. Yeah, because we're finding out
Speaker 1: things that on ourselves, our characters that we didn't know.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's it feels like it honestly
Speaker 1: feels like exactly like what Brooke is experiencing. That you
Speaker 1: did something dumb and drunk at a party and you
Speaker 1: don't remember until people start reminding you, and then the
Speaker 1: pieces come back together. You know, I forgot about Peyton
Speaker 1: and Nathan and nipple rings and sex tapes and showers together,
Speaker 1: like all of it has been wiped from my memory
Speaker 1: because you know, for the last couple of years it's
Speaker 1: Luke Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke luke. Um. The reminder
Speaker 1: is brutal. It is so brutal, and I think it
Speaker 1: can be really hard, especially when something from so far
Speaker 1: in your past comes up and and you know, Lucas
Speaker 1: says it. He says, she's acting like it just happened.
Speaker 1: Haley has the counter, Well, it did just happen to her,
Speaker 1: you know, she just found out about it. But for
Speaker 1: Brooke and Nathan, like I would bet you they've both
Speaker 1: literally forgotten that this ever happened. Now it's back to
Speaker 1: bite them in the ass and what a total nightmare. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but right there, but also a great platform for some
Speaker 1: comedy because you and I, as we watched Hailey be like,
Speaker 1: I want the list, guys. So Foria and I are
Speaker 1: sitting here to sidebar texted each other about like you
Speaker 1: don't want the list. You don't want the list. You
Speaker 1: think we want that list. It's a real bad idea.
Speaker 1: You don't want the list. And if I mean there's one,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't keep a list. Don't make a list. It's
Speaker 1: a recipe for don't make a list for us to
Speaker 1: find in your drawers or oh my god, you don't
Speaker 1: want that list. No. No. I've had a couple of
Speaker 1: situations where I have um learned after the fact that uh,
Speaker 1: I have engaged with someone who has been with my partner,
Speaker 1: And it makes me happy that I don't know, because
Speaker 1: when I interact with them, I'm a cool girl. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not being territorial or weird. I'm just being fun cool.
Speaker 1: And so then when I find out later, I'm like, Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to know before. Knowing before
Speaker 1: makes it worse because then you're not really yourself when
Speaker 1: you meet that person. Yes, it's just not possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want people to keep secrets
Speaker 1: from me. But I also I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 1: I need to know. Like I I remember finding out
Speaker 1: that um, a girl who had been so awful to
Speaker 1: one of my best guy friends in a relationship that
Speaker 1: they were in like tortured this sweet boy. Yeah. Years later,
Speaker 1: I was dating someone and found out he had also
Speaker 1: dated this girl, and I almost broke up with him
Speaker 1: over it, like I couldn't. It made it made you
Speaker 1: think his taste was bad in my head in a
Speaker 1: way that I was like, I don't think I can
Speaker 1: get over this, and yeah, I just was like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to understand this about you. And
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I just wish i'd never known this.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know this. There's well, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: There's a fine line between knowing who your person has
Speaker 1: had significant relationships with, Like I can look at the
Speaker 1: people that my husband has dated and been like, those
Speaker 1: are all really talented, ambitious, smart women, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like I am in good company, and and then also
Speaker 1: like I have dated people who only ever dated trollops.
Speaker 1: You know, I did not feel like I was in
Speaker 1: good company. And so I think knowing what your person's
Speaker 1: history is in terms of how they respect women, what
Speaker 1: they're attracted to, that can be helpful. I don't need
Speaker 1: to know every person on the list. No, I don't
Speaker 1: want it. I don't want it. Has it's almost air
Speaker 1: to just assume it's everyone right, just to be like,
Speaker 1: it's actually a great strategy. You've kissed everyone, and I'm
Speaker 1: the last one. I'm I'm the one that made you stop.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's amazing. Yeah, feather in our caps, Sophia,
Speaker 1: we dime into it. Look at us, look at us.
Speaker 1: We broke up. We also did the damn thing in
Speaker 1: this episode, unfortunately to each other. I still am sweaty
Speaker 1: about this. No, it's okay. We just we were in it,
Speaker 1: like it was such a real fight. And and I
Speaker 1: know we've talked a little bit about you know, stunts
Speaker 1: some things, but it's choreography and you're also in the moment.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there was one moment where we were each
Speaker 1: we were facing each other, and like we were each
Speaker 1: supposed to go left. I was supposed to have I
Speaker 1: remember this so clearly because I was really upset that
Speaker 1: I'd hurt you. I was supposed to be holding your down,
Speaker 1: and when we landed, I could only get your um
Speaker 1: your left hand so on my right hand side down
Speaker 1: and that was bad for you because you had you
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with your other hand. You couldn't
Speaker 1: like hit me. It was like I had to hold
Speaker 1: both hands so that you could struggle against them, and
Speaker 1: I was bringing my arm across to go and get
Speaker 1: your other hand right as you leaned forward and I
Speaker 1: cracked you in the head. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's how you remember it, but I remember the crack
Speaker 1: and being like it was scary. It was, well it was.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, wow, that was really loud, and
Speaker 1: then thinking was it only loud because it was in
Speaker 1: my head? And then I saw your face and like
Speaker 1: looked around and everyone's eyes were big and mouths were open,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, everybody heard that, and we
Speaker 1: like stopped for a minute. But in my head, yeah,
Speaker 1: to your point, Like my memory is that like we
Speaker 1: were both supposed to go left, and like, well, you're
Speaker 1: left in my left, but I went right, and it
Speaker 1: just yeah, it was it was a collision of every proportions. Well,
Speaker 1: we didn't have rehearsal, you know, like we had a
Speaker 1: little bit of rehearsal, but we're shooting outside, we're on location,
Speaker 1: we're fighting daylight. It is a hugely emotional scene and
Speaker 1: there's two of them back to back because we had
Speaker 1: to do I had totally forgotten about the scene where
Speaker 1: comes to Peyton's door and they have the fight at
Speaker 1: the door and then Brooke leaves before she comes back
Speaker 1: to Egg the house so we had two huge emotional
Speaker 1: scenes scenes. Yeah, and there's no time to just like
Speaker 1: five six, seven eight. You know. That's no. They didn't
Speaker 1: coordinate with us as well as they should, I think,
Speaker 1: especially because we were four years in. They were like,
Speaker 1: they're professionals, Sophan, Hillary, they they're great. You know. We
Speaker 1: were always the ones who'd say like, yeah, we can
Speaker 1: do it, just shows where he used to be, will
Speaker 1: make it work. That was always our thing, like we're
Speaker 1: runn out of time, we'll make it work. And then
Speaker 1: you realize, oh, yeah, for some stuff, we should probably
Speaker 1: have choreography. But the thing that struck me about it
Speaker 1: because it's such a beautiful scene between us, and I
Speaker 1: guess part of the reason I'm but hurt about them
Speaker 1: taking that beginning out is because, in different ways, each
Speaker 1: of these girls has this mortal wound, and they get
Speaker 1: expressed with different terms. Brooks is a criticism of of
Speaker 1: who she is. Certainly you know, judgment and sexism and
Speaker 1: all those things, you know, coming from my end of it,
Speaker 1: and and what I saw in this scene watching it
Speaker 1: back is that you got to tell me the worst
Speaker 1: thing I've ever said to you. And I think that
Speaker 1: the wound I feel for Broke is that she didn't
Speaker 1: get to express, like you said one of the worst
Speaker 1: things like a person could say to me like you
Speaker 1: you treated me like everybody else. And the reason it
Speaker 1: the thing that really sticks out to me, obviously, Peyton's wound,
Speaker 1: the mother thing is the biggest and the baddest and
Speaker 1: the worst. And what it illuminated for me in our
Speaker 1: fight and these girls who have been there for each
Speaker 1: other since they were so little, is that they both
Speaker 1: have actually the same core wound. It's abandonment, and they've
Speaker 1: they're the ones who have shown up for each other forever,
Speaker 1: and in this moment, they've abandoned each other. And and
Speaker 1: what Peyton voices to Brooke is you abandoned me. And
Speaker 1: Broke hast to see that the thing she has felt
Speaker 1: that Peyton did to her is exactly what she's done
Speaker 1: to Peyton, and it took my breath away seeing it
Speaker 1: as an adult and really seeing the subtext of the
Speaker 1: conversation between us, I was like, Oh, these girls have
Speaker 1: held like they used to come together to comfort each
Speaker 1: other from this wound, and now they're stabbing each other.
Speaker 1: And it it really gutted me. It really hurt when
Speaker 1: I heard Brooks say you win, you win. You know,
Speaker 1: you got the boy, you got the dress, you got
Speaker 1: everything that you wanted. Um, because for so long Peyton
Speaker 1: was trying to centerr brook and be like, just be
Speaker 1: with them, be happy. I'm gonna keep my secret as
Speaker 1: long as you're happy, you know, And that that was
Speaker 1: like a really hard thing to hear because Peyton doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like it's a win, you know, like it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like a win, and so to have the person
Speaker 1: you love be like fine. Um. The other thing that
Speaker 1: really strikes me that I didn't figure out till adulthood,
Speaker 1: but that is definitely on display in the scene is
Speaker 1: that we can love a lot of people like you
Speaker 1: and I love a lot of people. We don't give
Speaker 1: a lot of people permission to hurt us. That's the
Speaker 1: next level. And I personally have very few people in
Speaker 1: my life who I will let in enough to hurt me,
Speaker 1: because I'm so conditioned to be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have at some point. So we're just
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna pump the brakes right here. We'll stay
Speaker 1: at love. Love feels fun. Um. Brooke and Peyton are
Speaker 1: the only people who can hurt each other. Lucas can't
Speaker 1: hurt them, He's already done it to both of them.
Speaker 1: Nathan can't hurt them, you know, like their parents can't
Speaker 1: hurt them. They're the only people that they care enough
Speaker 1: about to give them that power. Yes, And I think
Speaker 1: that's why the U win hurts so much, because what
Speaker 1: Brooke is really saying is you were the one person
Speaker 1: I trusted and you broke it. So now you're getting
Speaker 1: all the stuff everybody builds to have one person and
Speaker 1: I have no one. Like That's what Brooke is saying
Speaker 1: to Peyton. You have someone who loves you, like I'm
Speaker 1: out here trying to date. I'm out here trying to
Speaker 1: find a boyfriend in a prom date. I got dumped
Speaker 1: because you to like make up for the gaping hole
Speaker 1: in my heart that you have left, and you've got
Speaker 1: somebody in it. You win, and it is Oh, it's
Speaker 1: so sad, these two little girls. It was a really
Speaker 1: well written scene, and I think it was kind of
Speaker 1: scary for a lot of our crew members to watch
Speaker 1: us film it because we had so much going on
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that it was that weird line of like,
Speaker 1: what's the subtext here? Are these girls really fighting because
Speaker 1: they're both putting in pretty good performances right now, like
Speaker 1: they're they're going for it um. And I remember all
Speaker 1: the crew members afterwards coming up to us being like,
Speaker 1: are you guys okay? Like, are you okay? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: that was the first time I think that we'd put
Speaker 1: in performances where people that loved us and knew us
Speaker 1: were just like, hey, are you guys, Like do you
Speaker 1: need something? Like can we take care of you somehow?
Speaker 1: Because this was intense. It was really intense. It was
Speaker 1: really intense well, and if I may, and this was
Speaker 1: also at a point where we were really getting with
Speaker 1: so hard behind the scenes that it changed our actual friendship. Yes,
Speaker 1: like m m, it makes me want to cry, Like
Speaker 1: we didn't know that. But this was in this was
Speaker 1: in a moment where we you had always been much
Speaker 1: like Brooke and Peyton, like when I got to Wilmington's
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this, like you were my person,
Speaker 1: And this was in an era where we were all
Speaker 1: being pitted against each other. And I think there was
Speaker 1: like under the scene, there was real pain of I
Speaker 1: don't know if you care about me as much as
Speaker 1: I care about you. And I see it in with
Speaker 1: directions and I know in fact it went like all
Speaker 1: the way around the merry ground of all of us girls.
Speaker 1: We were so scared because of the things that were
Speaker 1: being whispered in all of our ears. And I think
Speaker 1: it's you know, I think it's really part of it's
Speaker 1: part of what our characters are going through. It's part
Speaker 1: of what we were going through, and it it's not
Speaker 1: something much like Brooke and Peyton. We didn't get any
Speaker 1: help because we didn't have an adult in the room.
Speaker 1: It took us learning lessons as young women and being
Speaker 1: able to bring those back to each other eventually and
Speaker 1: to realize it was never you and it was never me.
Speaker 1: It was the grown ups that we're supposed to take
Speaker 1: care of us wanted us to be enemies. And I
Speaker 1: think all of that happening and being good girls who
Speaker 1: came to work and did good work and really helped
Speaker 1: the crew, I think it's part of why it feels
Speaker 1: so emotional because nobody was allowed to express anything. I
Speaker 1: went home. Here's my admission, um, after the whole like
Speaker 1: fight scene in the next episode, so not this fight scene.
Speaker 1: This fight scene left me feeling really rattled. UM, and
Speaker 1: I was I was unsure, like how to be around
Speaker 1: you because I had hurt you, but I know that
Speaker 1: we'd also done this like work together that um was
Speaker 1: important and that I loved, but it was layered with
Speaker 1: like hurt physical and like you know, figurative UM. When
Speaker 1: we shot the next episode and it's after they fight
Speaker 1: Psycho Deeric and you and I are seated on the
Speaker 1: front porch like all bloody, and we've got the blankets
Speaker 1: around us and we were taking vodka shots from a
Speaker 1: water bottle together. I went home and cried after that.
Speaker 1: I did too, because I was like, it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: It's gonna work. Like that was like the moment where
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we're good, like to get other,
Speaker 1: were a good team um, and I felt like, um,
Speaker 1: I feel like I could make the choice to hang
Speaker 1: out with you or too, just like be with you
Speaker 1: in a way where I didn't have to ask permission
Speaker 1: from anyone anymore because we've just done this thing that
Speaker 1: was really cool together. Yeah, that was one when I
Speaker 1: cried me too. Oh my god, I can't believe it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am it did it it Weirdly, I think being
Speaker 1: in such an intense situation together and coming together like
Speaker 1: it mirrored something we'd had that in our real lives
Speaker 1: and we both like I saw it. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the first time where I thought, if we can have this.
Speaker 1: I don't know if all the other stuff that I
Speaker 1: know is being fed in both directions here, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's real. This feels really real. What almost
Speaker 1: made it didn't It didn't even matter, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like it's like, yes, say whatever you want
Speaker 1: to say. You know. I was waking up to a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff at this point when we were in
Speaker 1: season four, because at this point where you and I
Speaker 1: filmed this episode, I had found out that things were
Speaker 1: being said about me and our creator that we're not true,
Speaker 1: and that light bulb went off and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: but then that means that the stuff about Danil isn't true,
Speaker 1: and that means the stuff about Sophia isn't true. And
Speaker 1: it was this domino effect and it reached its peak
Speaker 1: when we went to Honey Grove. Right, So this is
Speaker 1: like the span of time between prom and Honey Grove
Speaker 1: is when everything went to shoot on our show. But
Speaker 1: between shooting this episode with you and having this like
Speaker 1: come to Jesus in this moment where like maybe we
Speaker 1: did have to have an injury in order to like
Speaker 1: come together and be God, I'm really sorry, you know.
Speaker 1: I just I'm crying in the trailer because I heard
Speaker 1: you um with Jojo just like oh my god, is
Speaker 1: she you know? And UM and her telling me like,
Speaker 1: calm down, you're making it a really big you have
Speaker 1: to calm down. Um. Between that and then when we
Speaker 1: had the All nine graduation party where we really did
Speaker 1: come together as a team behind the scenes and like, ah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this chunk episodes is just so laced with like real
Speaker 1: life tension, and then like really strong work. We took
Speaker 1: all the stuff that we couldn't say out loud and
Speaker 1: just put it in the scene. Here, you guys go,
Speaker 1: here's the buffet of emotion. Mm hmm. Yeah. It's like
Speaker 1: we got to take out our frustrations on what was
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes on our guest star next week.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, sweet map Bar when that door knock happens,
Speaker 1: like sweet things are happening, and then the door and
Speaker 1: then mm hmm mm hmm. Yeah, like a metaphor. You know,
Speaker 1: there's so much tender work between two people and that's
Speaker 1: where we move on. I just I love you. I
Speaker 1: love you too, don't make I'm proud of us. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to talk about this. It's hard because it
Speaker 1: means admitting that, like we weren't good to each other
Speaker 1: in different ways. We were like conditioned to be competitive
Speaker 1: or dismissive, or I was just aloof a lot. I
Speaker 1: was really aloof I think what's part of what's hard
Speaker 1: about it, though, is unlike a normal life, when you have,
Speaker 1: you know, sixteen hours of work a day to do
Speaker 1: with someone, you don't have time to get in a fight.
Speaker 1: You don't you are conditioned to not bring your personal life,
Speaker 1: and it can make figuring out your personal life almost
Speaker 1: impossible because the fear is, well, if we take the
Speaker 1: lid off this thing, it's going to explode. You can't
Speaker 1: just like have a fight or an argument like you
Speaker 1: would with your friend and take three days and then
Speaker 1: talk about it. It's it's so pressurized. And I think
Speaker 1: to your point, we finally got to let some of
Speaker 1: the pressure out and then everything changed because we could
Speaker 1: really see each other and and not be manipulated into
Speaker 1: suspicion or assumption anymore. Well, here's here's how you know
Speaker 1: I love you. Um. When I left One Tree Hill,
Speaker 1: there was like it's bad. It was really it was bad,
Speaker 1: and I didn't talk to anybody for a very long time.
Speaker 1: But I had to put my real together, uh, in
Speaker 1: order to go audition for other jobs. And so I'm
Speaker 1: like pregnant putting too together my real And this is
Speaker 1: the one scene from One Tree Hill that I had
Speaker 1: on it. This is what This is my most proud
Speaker 1: work on the show with you m I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that, yeah said. I remember Paul coming into
Speaker 1: the house after Peyton like goes in and slams the door,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, so are you okay? Can we
Speaker 1: keep going? Like yeah, no, we're great, We're troopers, We're
Speaker 1: gonna be great. Um. But this whole episode it was strong.
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like any of our friends would
Speaker 1: say that about this episode. Lee got to do good stuff,
Speaker 1: Haley and Nathan got to do good stuff together, chat
Speaker 1: and where we got to do really good stuff together,
Speaker 1: Like this was an episode about duos and those are
Speaker 1: our strongest episodes. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree, And you're right,
Speaker 1: I mean, what an honorable mention for Lee. It's like
Speaker 1: they they made him. They just wrote him so weird
Speaker 1: in the last episode, and I feel like Mouth and
Speaker 1: who he really is is back in this episode and
Speaker 1: such a relief. And I love that they essentially through
Speaker 1: these you know, this episode and the next one, the
Speaker 1: cliffhanger into prom they let him be ducky. They let
Speaker 1: him be that guy. And even in the small generous moments,
Speaker 1: you know, Mouth texting Rachel a picture of him and
Speaker 1: Brooke and saying we miss you. You know, it's all
Speaker 1: as it should be. The way he is with her
Speaker 1: in the closet she's packing, Oh my god. Yes, but
Speaker 1: also the way she is with you. Brooke and Rachel
Speaker 1: are such a good love story when she I mean
Speaker 1: you and her and that like false goodbye before she
Speaker 1: comes back and hugs you goodbye, so good. It's it's
Speaker 1: the audiences reminder that Brooke Davis is a great friend.
Speaker 1: She's a great friend, and she deserves to be put first.
Speaker 1: I also just love seeing Rachel get vulnerable, you know,
Speaker 1: even even in the comedic way in which she does it. Well,
Speaker 1: yeah I did that because I suck, But you're better
Speaker 1: than she. She has a hard time not cracking a
Speaker 1: joke in a vulnerable moment like someone else I know, um,
Speaker 1: but it's so it's raw and it's sweet and it's honest,
Speaker 1: and I do really love seeing these girls together. There's
Speaker 1: something about these two who have made mistakes making each
Speaker 1: other better that feels very, very sweet. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of sweet duos and then some I'm not so sweet duos,
Speaker 1: and then you have the unsweetest, the bitterest duo of
Speaker 1: all in that end scene, and it seems like it's
Speaker 1: going to be sweet. The misdirect. You know, everyone's getting
Speaker 1: ready for prom and you're getting your dress and everyone's
Speaker 1: doing their hair, and it's cutting back and forth and
Speaker 1: Lucas is tightening his tie and he's putting on his
Speaker 1: boot near and then you realize it's not Lucas, it's Derek.
Speaker 1: Don't Don't done, the perfect the perfect polar opposite to
Speaker 1: you at the river court asking mouth to prom and
Speaker 1: like being with all the boys and it's like so
Speaker 1: cute and it's so high school and it's so fun,
Speaker 1: and then it's like the exact opposite. It's not fun.
Speaker 1: You know who is fun? Okay, you guys, we have
Speaker 1: Matt bar god bless uh, but we're just teasing you
Speaker 1: with him because he's actually going to talk with us
Speaker 1: about next week's episode, which is season four, episode sixteen.
Speaker 1: You call it madness, but I call it love. That's
Speaker 1: so frightening. It's so frightening, But we do love. I
Speaker 1: R L Sweet Matt bar So we'll see you next week. Hey,
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