WEBVTT - Zach Ertz + Vernon Davis + Peter Rosenberg on Week 2 against the Giants | Next Man Up | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.040 Welcome and Commander's family to the Next Man Up Podcast. 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:05.960 I'm your host, Brian cober Junr. And on this episode 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.119 we're talking tight ends. We have Zach Ertz pulling up 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:12.320 to talk NFC East rivalry games. 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:13.680 You know he knows something about that. 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.080 Then the legend of the game for this Sunday, Vernon 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.720 Davis pulls up and talks about not only his play 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.759 on the field, but what he's doing outside of the 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.920 field to continue his life journey. And last but not least, 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:26.439 we had to get a New York radio guy to 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.560 pull up. But I promise you he is a fan 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:29.520 of the Burgundy and Gold. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:29.920 That's right. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.560 Peter Rosenberg joins the show to talk about why he's 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.120 excited about his Washington Commanders. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:36.800 That's all on Next Man Up. 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:44.560 So nice twice. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:47.599 Amanda's family are the Next Man Up. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.519 He is a three time Pro bowler, Super Bowl champion, 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.800 holds the record for most receptions in a season by 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.720 a tight end. Look at him smiling, my boy, Zach 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.960 hurts value doo yo. Good to see you, man. We 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.200 appreciate you taking the time. Let's get right into it. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.880 Had your first game back. You had not played since 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.640 twenty twenty three October. Right, you had that much time 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.080 off of the field. Yeah, now you were back, man, You. 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:10.759 Looked good out there. How did it feel to get 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:11.800 just back on that field again? 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:16.000 It felt great? Obviously week one definitely some nerves going 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.120 into it, some butterflies, But I feel like that's a 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.640 good thing. Whenever you lose the butterflies a week one 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.119 and that's probably time to hang them up. So it's 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.640 good that I still got that feeling in me. Felt 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.840 good to get out there around the guys. Obviously, to 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:32.640 come up short, it was a terrible feeling. But at 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:33.800 the end of the day, it felt good to get 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.240 out there, good to be with the guys, and I'm 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:36.640 really looking forward to the rest of the year. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.200 You said still got it in me, So I got 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:39.840 to ask, man, when you go through an injury like that, 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:42.440 you've accomplished so many things already, Right, You're in year twelve. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.720 You've accomplished so much. You could probably say, you know what, 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.240 I can hang the cleanse up. Yeah, how did you 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.800 get through that and fight through it and say, you 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:50.200 know what, I still want to play football? 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.320 Well, I think so. Two years ago, twenty twenty two, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.280 I had the knee injury, and that was a tough 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:56.960 one to come back from, and I probably came back 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.440 a little too early, and then I had an injury 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.080 that was not very It was not a bad injury 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.080 last year. It was not bad enough to miss that 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.720 many games, But there was a lot of politics involved 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:12.040 with the situation in Arizona, and so just being able 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.560 to take a deep breath and kind of reset and 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.239 wait for the perfect opportunity was something that I really 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.680 wanted to focus on to get back and feel like myself, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.800 feel like the player that I knew I could be again. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.200 And it really just gave me an opportunity to really 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.720 train for essentially nine months straight for the first time 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.320 and forever to have that amount of time to get 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.960 back to where my standards are for myself. And I 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.040 feel like I've had a great offseason because I've been 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.440 able to feel good. I feel healthy, I feel probably 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.440 the best I have in years, So I feel like 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:41.360 I'm in a really good place. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.239 Man, you had a great offseason, You're having a great 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.440 start to your season. You've had welcome twins, and Man, 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.760 you and your wife welcomed in twins. Did that give 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.600 you a little extra motivation to be like, you know what, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.120 I want my twins to see me on that field. 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:52.320 I want them to be able to see what my 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:53.560 two year old's been able to see. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.680 Yeah, I mean, it's such a blessing to have three kids, 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.520 three little boys. Wow, it was like yesterday I had 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.359 no kids, and I woke up today and have three kids. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.959 So time flies. But it's so fun to be their dad. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.560 Obviously come home to a full house. It's mayhem at 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.120 times right now, but Julius crushing it. She's an amazing mom. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.400 She's an amazing athlete, but she's an even better mom. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.200 So it's fun to see here in this role and 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.840 I'm just excited to be their dad and her husband 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:20.720 as athletes. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:21.720 Do you guys compete a lot? 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.839 Because like my wife, she played basketball, right, she's a coach, 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:26.600 so like it's competitive for everything. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:27.600 Is that how you guys are? 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.840 Like in parenting, It's not like we're over there competing 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.320 of who could change the diaper the fastest or who's 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.680 getting the most diaper changes in the day, But like 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.320 if we're playing cards or something, we'll definitely compete in 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.760 something like that. But now it's a lot of just 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.560 supporting one another to be the best of parents who 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:48.080 can for these kids. And that's what we're focused on 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:48.560 for sure. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:48.760 Man. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.640 And last time we spoke, you had just signed pen 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.280 to paper, you had the burgundy suit on. Still, Man, 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.880 how has it been adjusting and just getting into this 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:56.880 offense as this leader? 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.839 Yeah, I mean it's been phenomenal. Honestly, I didn't really 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.880 know what I was getting into. Obviously, I've been in 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.480 this division for a long time, but didn't really know 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.040 about Virginia Northern Virginia. Didn't really know about this organization 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.080 besides what you heard. And I could so I'll say 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.640 I was coming in with eyes wide open and I couldn't. 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.520 It hasn't. I can't really put in toowards how great 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.400 it's been. I've loved living in the d m V. 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.159 I love the greenery, the road just driving out here, 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.920 so green, so lush, and so it's probably my favorite 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.320 like area that I've lived in so far. And then 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.120 just the organization. Man, it's it's blown me away. Dq 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.920 the culture he's building. Obviously, I've loved I loved playing 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:40.800 for Cliff in Arizona. That's who I wanted to retire 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.839 playing for, and when he got fired in Arizona, I 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:47.720 was extremely disappointed in that decision, and so I didn't 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.120 even know this was gonna be a possibility. But when 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.279 he got the job as the OC, I jumped at it. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.200 I was eager to get out here. And then Josh 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.680 Harris has done an amazing job from an ownership standpoint, 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:01.200 just investing in the players, even no stone unturned to 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.560 be able to provide everything we need to be at 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.800 our best. So from top to Biden, I feel like 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.039 this place is just going to continue to ascend. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:09.440 And you said when you got here, you knew you 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:10.760 were coming in here to be a leader, to be 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.839 a mentor, and to also build chemistry. The young quarterback 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.520 in Jade and Daniels got to do that. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:16.000 In week one. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.120 How has it been just teaching Jaden and helping him 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.240 grow and just watching him be the man that he is. 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.480 I mean, Jaden is going to be an amazing player 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.520 in this league for a very long time. And I 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.960 wouldn't say I'm teaching him a lot. He's come in 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.640 with the vast knowledge of the game, the way he 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.479 understands concepts, the way he understands leverage technique, how I 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:39.279 run my route. I feel like there was a natural 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.800 chemistry that was built right away. But also he loves 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.280 the game and I love the game. So we talk 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.240 about football consistently. We're texting each other late at night 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:48.800 after watching the film on our own. What do you 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.440 think I should do against this? What do you want 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.279 to do against this coverage? So we're just constantly trying 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:54.640 to make sure we're on the same page so we 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.560 could play fast. Because we feel like we're on the 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.480 same page, We're playing fast and no one's gonna be 0:05:58.480 --> 0:05:59.160 able to stop us. 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.679 Sunday will be bulld for your guys's first game playing 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.560 for the Burgundy and Gold at Northwest Stadium. How excited 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:05.880 are you to be on that side of it? I mean, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.800 you played against these fans a lot. How excited you 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.359 to get them to cheer fair? I'm excited to not 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:10.880 get bud. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:11.320 You know. 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:15.440 It's gonna be fun. I'm so excited to be there 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.160 for the for the home opener, to be on this 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.000 side of it, and we got to go out there 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.400 and put our products on the field that they're gonna 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:22.840 be proud of, that they're gonna be able to support 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.880 and cheer for. And I mean scoring a lot of 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.520 points hopefully, But at the end of the division game, 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.520 the Giants have played a million times and so it's 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:31.160 going to be a battle. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:32.720 And if you said you've played them a million times, 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.120 my last question for you those NFC East battles, No, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:36.919 you haven't done it for us, but you've been there before. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.480 How special of those NFC battles paint that for us? 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.400 It is the best division of football in my opinion, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.880 just massive Marcus. Massive fan bases, passionate fan bases, honest 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.200 fan basis. And so for me, it's the best division 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.840 in football to play in. And I'm glad I'm backing it. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:53.200 Zach. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:54.839 We appreciate you, man. Can't wait to see you for 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.560 Week two at the crib. Appreciate you boy. It command 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:58.920 this family. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.599 Since we're talking tight ends, we might as well go 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.480 to a legend of the game. A former Washington tight 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.719 end that will be this Sunday's legend of the game. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.880 Command is family. Our next man up is a legend 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.800 in the game. He's won a Super Bowl, set over 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:22.280 seventy five hundred yards, receiving sixty three touchdowns in a 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:26.000 very long and fruitful career, and he ended it here 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:30.120 in Washington with the Burgundy and Gold welcoming in NFL 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.920 legend and tight end Vernon Davis, Brother, how you. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:33.520 Doing, man? 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.240 I appreciate how you doing? Man? 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.640 Oh Man, I can't complay anytime. I'm sitting here hanging 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.680 out with a legend of the game. Man, I'm blessed. Man, 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:40.880 I got the best job in the world. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.520 That's what's up. That's what's up. I appreciate that. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.240 Yes, sir man, so of course I said it earlier. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.480 You are going to be recognized as a legend of 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.480 the game this Sunday for our forced home game against 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.600 the New York Giants here for this season, which is 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.800 a very very big game. Right Jayden Daniel's debut with 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.480 the Crib, Dan Quinn's debut with the Crib. How special 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.320 is it for you to be honored in such a 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:02.200 momentus occasion. 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.040 I think it's a great opportunity. Man. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.520 I just ya, I grew up root for Washington Commanders, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.120 so to be able to be affiliated with them in 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.280 some kind of way, it's still. 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:14.160 It's just great. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.000 It's just it's just awesome to be able to just 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.680 you know, be a part of what they're trying to 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.040 build and I know they're trying to build a championship team. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.840 And if I can give you know, my time, my 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:28.280 energy and and just being part of this, And I 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.440 think there's no better way than to be one of 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.720 the legends of the game in which they were able 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:38.120 to incorporate me for the first home game of the season. 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:39.640 So that's why it's truly honored. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.160 Do those kind of things shock you how much the 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.280 fans here revere you? Right, you're only here a few years, 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.600 but the fans love you as if you spent your 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.480 whole career here. And that kind of seems like the 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.360 trend with a lot of the legends that played in 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.200 the Burgundean Goal. How much does it mean to you 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.120 to just be revered like that by this fan base? 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.360 Yeah, I mean that's why we played the game. We 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.520 played the game. I think it's a young guy coming in. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:05.080 It's always we forget the little details about the game 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.720 of football, right, what makes this game? And it's nothing 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:12.720 more or nothing better than having a group of people 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:17.760 rallying behind you as a support as your as your 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.760 support system, and your team of people who want to 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.920 see you win, both individually and as a team. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.040 And it's nothing like it. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.040 So we when we do anything, like I used to 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:29.600 say when I was playing football, we do it for 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.040 the fans, we do it for the organization, we do 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.000 it for our family, and we do it for ourselves. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.640 You've been around, You've seen a few different different regimes 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.240 here in Washington, even when you were with the Niners. 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.240 What's different about this time? What's different about this go around? 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:49.000 In europeon anytime you can change up things, change is 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.240 always great, especially if it's for the betterment of something. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.120 And I think right now this is for the betterment 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:54.800 of the team. 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.160 When they made the change to the upp management and 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:58.920 the pieces that they were able to put together with 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:02.559 the with the management team, Tea has been nothing but phenomenal. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:07.760 I think Magic Johnson, bringing his experience, his notoriety and 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:12.000 everything that he's learned from building a team, I think 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.960 it works. And I also think it's refreshing to have 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:20.640 something new into a new group of people come into 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.960 the city of Washington, d C. With the expectations to 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:26.000 win a championship. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.080 And we just spoke to zach Ertz earlier and very 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:30.880 much like you, when he got here, right he had 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:32.960 the Pro Bowls he had the Super Bowl, he had 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.560 the numbers and the statistics, but decided to in the 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.800 back of the script, come here to Washington take its 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.360 talents there. You did a very similar thing. Take us 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.240 back to then when you did first get to Washington, 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.440 what you were feeling, because again, you would already proved 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.320 so much. You could have stopped right there, but you 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.360 said you wanted to keep going here in the burguniar gold. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:51.160 Why was that yeah to me? 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:52.920 I mean, like I said, it was a great, great 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.400 opportunity to come back to my hometown team and play 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:55.840 for them. 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:56.760 It was. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.720 I mean, I know, when when you have an opportunity 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.240 to play for a team that you grew up rooting for, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.760 I know that's free and far between. Doesn't always happen 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.640 like that every single day. So I embraced the opportunity. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:11.360 And my friends and family, kids, everyone was here. They 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.800 had an opportunity to see me where that that good 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.760 old uniform that we've been seeing for years. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.160 But it's you know, I embrace it, man. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:25.240 I embraced every single opportunity that I possibly can, especially 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.560 if it's a good one, and just stay positive about it, 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:28.720 positive about everything. 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:33.000 Born in DC went to the University of Maryland, came back, 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.720 played for the pray for Washington. Now you're being honored 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.439 at the field, right on the field, Man, is that 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.920 a full circle moment for you? Because I got to imagine, 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.120 like you said, like this is your hometown team. You 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:45.680 had to have dreamed of this, right, You had to 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.160 have dreamed of one day being on that field, and 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.880 now you're on the back end of it. Have you 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:51.640 had those moments where you sit there and be like, Man, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.640 God is good, man. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.680 God is so good man. I give it all to God. 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:00.360 Man, everything I do, everything I received, And I know 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:01.000 life is short. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:02.040 We only hit temporarily. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:04.760 But to be able to live the life that I've 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.240 lived and continue to just learn how to navigate through 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.480 the ups and downs of life, because our life isn't 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:11.240 it's not easy. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:12.040 It's tough. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.720 Although we have moments in our life where things can 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.440 be great and then we have those moments where things 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:20.320 aren't so great and it's dark, it's gloomy. But if 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.480 we continue to just keep keep the fight, stay humble, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:31.480 stay just graceful, stay just appreciative of all the little 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:32.680 things that we receive in life. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.200 Life, life can be really good. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.840 Even one there's those down moments in our life, but 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:43.240 I'm very, very grateful for everything that's to come away and. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.000 Life has just definitely been a journey for you. Vernon. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.720 Now, on the next Mental podcast, we talk a little 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.640 ext and those, but we really like to talk about 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:52.200 the player behind the helmet, and you, sir, have a 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.120 lot of layers. You are somewhat of a renaissance man. 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.480 You act, you do music, You've done so many different things. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.400 You're a leader of philanthropist. Why is it so important 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.320 for you to continue to be so active even though 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:04.600 you're technically retired. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.559 I think, I think every I think it depends on 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.120 your your driven purpose, Like what's your purpose, whatever you 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:17.040 think your purpose is, or whatever you're living for, whatever's 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:20.800 going through your soul, through your mind. What do you 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.400 want for yourself? You ask yourself that question, what do 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.520 you want? What does your life look like? What makes 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.240 you happy? And I learned that in order to get 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.640 through life, it's crazy life that we live in, it's 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.600 crazy world that we live in, is to be happy, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:43.160 to be inspired, to feel like, uh you can you're 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.400 living for something. Every morning, every night that I go 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.880 to sleep, I'm excited about the next day, Lord willing 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:50.880 if it comes right. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.680 I know it's not guaranteed, but I'm hopeful. 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.000 I'm hopeful that I get another opportunity to wake up 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:58.760 and do something that I love. 0:13:58.840 --> 0:13:59.559 Whatever it is. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.480 Everybody has different passions and different desires, but whatever it is, 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:04.760 I get a chance to do it again. 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.880 So I get excited about the future. I get excited 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:07.600 about right now. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.760 And I know that you know, everything that I that 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.720 I put in, I'm leaving, but it's going to become 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.280 a part of my legacy, and the legacy outlives you. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.040 You know, legacy be here for years and years and 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:24.080 years to come. And that's Evan. Ultimately, that's what you 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.000 want to do. You want to leave behind a legacy. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.720 And I think that's important for everyone to understand that, Hey, 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.840 the impact that I had, people are going to remember 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.680 me for the rest of my life. I did really good. 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.240 Whether it's big or small, it doesn't matter what stage 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.960 is on. As long as you leave behind something, you 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:43.120 all got to leave it behind. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.320 And you said, realizing what your purpose is? What is 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:47.600 Vernon Davis's purpose? 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.280 I think my purpose is it is to be an example, 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.080 to be a role model, to to create smiles and 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.800 uplift people. I think it all, it all goes by 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:01.080 Everything in life always goes back to to some right 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.400 you would, because every every day we're impacted or we're 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:11.440 we're affected by someone. You know, there's someone that can 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:14.440 that can impact us in either positive or negative way. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.560 And my thing is to is to give that positivity 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.560 to the world to people that have a chance to 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:27.520 to cross paths with me and I And that's just 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.840 my purpose. They say that, you know, find out what 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.560 what what makes you tick and what gives you, what 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.000 gives you like the energy to be able to just 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.360 press on each and every day, And for me, it's 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:39.800 giving back and create smiles. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.560 And you're giving back in a major way right now 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.200 because you wrote a memoir and there's a lot of 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.480 different stories in there, a lot of different things and 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.600 antidotes that not only NFL players and players can get, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.880 but just people in general. Talk about what made you 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.600 decide that right now in this point, because you've been 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.680 through a lot, especially this year, Why did you. 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.240 Decide to drop the memoir right now? 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.440 I try to drop the memoir right now because, like 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.600 I said, I just think life is so precious. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.440 I think life is so precious and life is just 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:11.880 so short. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:14.320 You know, I don't know if I'm gonna be around 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.160 here until I'm sixty seventy years old, So I can't 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:18.040 wait that long to write it by memoir. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:19.440 I got to write it right now. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.280 I've done more than enough in life to be able 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.840 to inspire people. I remember I was going through panic 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.080 disorder when I was playing in San Francisco. First thing 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.320 I did is pick up find books. I was looking 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.360 for books. I was on line, I was at the library, 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:37.320 I was, I was in different office spaces and just 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:38.120 trying to find. 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.480 Books that resonated with what I was going through. 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.720 And I feel like my book, someone's gonna be searching 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.080 for my book one day and they gonna pick up 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.080 my book, and that book is going to give them 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:48.840 the joy and inspiration they need to be able to 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:53.000 continue through life. And I think, I think it's those things, 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.920 in those moments that we don't really think about because 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.480 there's so much going on in this life. Everything's fast, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.840 you know, the cars on the road, but you have 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.959 a political debates, you have different careers and career paths, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:09.200 But what about the struggles of life? That's what we're 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:10.800 supposed to be there for We're supposed to be there 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.880 for people when they're struggling, when when they're on there 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.520 when they're on their downfall, right, because I can I 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:24.520 can assure you that everyone in life, if they get 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:28.680 a chance to live long enough, they're going to experience 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:34.879 some kind of some kind of some kind of health issue, 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.600