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Speaker 1: Welcome and Commander's family to the Next Man Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brian cober Junr. And on this episode

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Speaker 1: we're talking tight ends. We have Zach Ertz pulling up

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Speaker 1: to talk NFC East rivalry games.

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Speaker 2: You know he knows something about that.

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Speaker 1: Then the legend of the game for this Sunday, Vernon

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Speaker 1: Davis pulls up and talks about not only his play

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Speaker 1: on the field, but what he's doing outside of the

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Speaker 1: field to continue his life journey. And last but not least,

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Speaker 1: we had to get a New York radio guy to

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Speaker 1: pull up. But I promise you he is a fan

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Speaker 1: of the Burgundy and Gold.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Peter Rosenberg joins the show to talk about why he's

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Speaker 1: excited about his Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 2: That's all on Next Man Up.

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Speaker 3: So nice twice.

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Speaker 2: Amanda's family are the Next Man Up.

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Speaker 1: He is a three time Pro bowler, Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 1: holds the record for most receptions in a season by

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Speaker 1: a tight end. Look at him smiling, my boy, Zach

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Speaker 1: hurts value doo yo. Good to see you, man. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: Had your first game back. You had not played since

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three October. Right, you had that much time

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Speaker 1: off of the field. Yeah, now you were back, man, You.

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Speaker 2: Looked good out there. How did it feel to get

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Speaker 2: just back on that field again?

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Speaker 4: It felt great? Obviously week one definitely some nerves going

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Speaker 4: into it, some butterflies, But I feel like that's a

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Speaker 4: good thing. Whenever you lose the butterflies a week one

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Speaker 4: and that's probably time to hang them up. So it's

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Speaker 4: good that I still got that feeling in me. Felt

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Speaker 4: good to get out there around the guys. Obviously, to

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Speaker 4: come up short, it was a terrible feeling. But at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, it felt good to get

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Speaker 4: out there, good to be with the guys, and I'm

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Speaker 4: really looking forward to the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: You said still got it in me, So I got

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Speaker 1: to ask, man, when you go through an injury like that,

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Speaker 1: you've accomplished so many things already, Right, You're in year twelve.

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Speaker 1: You've accomplished so much. You could probably say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I can hang the cleanse up. Yeah, how did you

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Speaker 1: get through that and fight through it and say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I still want to play football?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think so. Two years ago, twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 4: I had the knee injury, and that was a tough

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Speaker 4: that was not very It was not a bad injury

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Speaker 4: last year. It was not bad enough to miss that

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Speaker 4: many games, But there was a lot of politics involved

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Speaker 4: with the situation in Arizona, and so just being able

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Speaker 4: to take a deep breath and kind of reset and

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Speaker 4: wait for the perfect opportunity was something that I really

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Speaker 4: feel like the player that I knew I could be again.

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Speaker 4: And it really just gave me an opportunity to really

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Speaker 4: back to where my standards are for myself. And I

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Speaker 4: able to feel good. I feel healthy, I feel probably

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Speaker 4: I'm in a really good place.

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Speaker 1: Man, you had a great offseason, You're having a great

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Speaker 1: start to your season. You've had welcome twins, and Man,

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Speaker 1: you and your wife welcomed in twins. Did that give

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Speaker 1: you a little extra motivation to be like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I want my twins to see me on that field.

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Speaker 1: I want them to be able to see what my

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's such a blessing to have three kids,

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Speaker 4: three little boys. Wow, it was like yesterday I had

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Speaker 4: So time flies. But it's so fun to be their dad.

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Speaker 4: Obviously come home to a full house. It's mayhem at

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Speaker 4: She's an amazing athlete, but she's an even better mom.

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Speaker 4: So it's fun to see here in this role and

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Speaker 2: Do you guys compete a lot?

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Speaker 1: Because like my wife, she played basketball, right, she's a coach,

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Speaker 4: Like in parenting, It's not like we're over there competing

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Speaker 4: supporting one another to be the best of parents who

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: And last time we spoke, you had just signed pen

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Speaker 1: to paper, you had the burgundy suit on. Still, Man,

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Speaker 1: how has it been adjusting and just getting into this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's been phenomenal. Honestly, I didn't really

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Speaker 4: It hasn't. I can't really put in toowards how great

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Speaker 4: the culture he's building. Obviously, I've loved I loved playing

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Speaker 1: And you said when you got here, you knew you

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Speaker 1: were coming in here to be a leader, to be

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Speaker 2: In week one.

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Speaker 1: How has it been just teaching Jaden and helping him

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jaden is going to be an amazing player

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Speaker 4: about football consistently. We're texting each other late at night

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Speaker 4: after watching the film on our own. What do you

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Speaker 4: to do against this coverage? So we're just constantly trying

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Speaker 4: same page, We're playing fast and no one's gonna be

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Speaker 1: Sunday will be bulld for your guys's first game playing

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Speaker 1: get bud.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun. I'm so excited to be there

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Speaker 4: for the for the home opener, to be on this

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Speaker 1: And if you said you've played them a million times,

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Speaker 1: my last question for you those NFC East battles, No,

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Speaker 1: you haven't done it for us, but you've been there before.

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Speaker 1: How special of those NFC battles paint that for us?

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Speaker 4: It is the best division of football in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: just massive Marcus. Massive fan bases, passionate fan bases, honest

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Speaker 5: Zach.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you, man. Can't wait to see you for

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Speaker 2: Week two at the crib. Appreciate you boy. It command

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Speaker 1: Since we're talking tight ends, we might as well go

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Speaker 1: to a legend of the game. A former Washington tight

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Speaker 1: Command is family. Our next man up is a legend

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Speaker 1: in the game. He's won a Super Bowl, set over

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Speaker 1: seventy five hundred yards, receiving sixty three touchdowns in a

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Speaker 1: very long and fruitful career, and he ended it here

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Speaker 1: legend and tight end Vernon Davis, Brother, how you.

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Speaker 2: Doing, man?

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Speaker 5: I appreciate how you doing? Man?

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, I can't complay anytime. I'm sitting here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with a legend of the game. Man, I'm blessed. Man,

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Speaker 1: I got the best job in the world.

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Speaker 5: That's what's up. That's what's up. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir man, so of course I said it earlier.

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Speaker 1: You are going to be recognized as a legend of

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants here for this season, which is

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Speaker 1: a very very big game. Right Jayden Daniel's debut with

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Speaker 1: is it for you to be honored in such a

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Speaker 5: I think it's a great opportunity. Man.

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Speaker 6: I just ya, I grew up root for Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 6: so to be able to be affiliated with them in

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Speaker 5: It's just great.

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Speaker 6: It's just it's just awesome to be able to just

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Speaker 6: build and I know they're trying to build a championship team.

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Speaker 6: And if I can give you know, my time, my

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Speaker 6: think there's no better way than to be one of

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Speaker 6: the legends of the game in which they were able

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Speaker 6: to incorporate me for the first home game of the season.

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Speaker 5: So that's why it's truly honored.

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Speaker 1: Do those kind of things shock you how much the

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Speaker 1: fans here revere you? Right, you're only here a few years,

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Speaker 1: but the fans love you as if you spent your

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Speaker 1: trend with a lot of the legends that played in

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Speaker 1: the Burgundean Goal. How much does it mean to you

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Speaker 1: to just be revered like that by this fan base?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's why we played the game. We

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Speaker 5: Why was that yeah to me?

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Speaker 5: God is so good man. I give it all to God.

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Speaker 6: Man, everything I do, everything I received, And I know

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Speaker 2: Life has just definitely been a journey for you. Vernon.

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Speaker 1: And you're giving back in a major way right now

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Speaker 6: raised the kid. And watching him go from this kid

441
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Speaker 6: that was just living in Washington, DC to having success,

442
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 6: it was just like it made me proud. That was

443
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Speaker 6: a proud moment for me the day he got drafted.

444
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Speaker 6: And to watch him, you know, leave the earth just

445
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,680
Speaker 6: like that, it was extremely tough, but look, it gave

446
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Speaker 6: me more perspectives. I'm at a place now where I

447
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 6: can talk about it smile, and I could just be.

448
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Speaker 5: Thankful for him gracing me with his presence during his time.

449
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Speaker 6: And and look, I'm I'll be with him one day.

450
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Speaker 6: You know, energy, you can't destroy energy, you can't destroy it.

451
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 6: He's still there somewhere. And if you believe, I think

452
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 6: if we approach life as if we were going to

453
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 6: die someday from our human form, then we we do better.

454
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 6: We live better, we we we take life more serious.

455
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,959
Speaker 6: But I feel like human beings, we feel like we're

456
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Speaker 6: gonna live forever. And there's nothing wrong with feeling like

457
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 6: you're gonna live forever. But there's a there's a there's

458
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Speaker 6: a big part of you that need to understand that

459
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 6: there's things that you need to get done before your

460
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 6: time is up. And the way you get it done,

461
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 6: it's about living wholesome life and trying your best to

462
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 6: do the best that you can to while you while

463
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Speaker 6: you're here, and just do a good deed man, just

464
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Speaker 6: be a great.

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Speaker 1: Person, and Vernon, you're definitely doing that. Thank you for

466
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Speaker 1: opening up and sharing that with us. I've recently lost

467
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: a family member too, and grievance tough man. Everybody deals

468
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: with it differently, but you know your advice could help

469
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Speaker 1: a lot of people.

470
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Speaker 2: So thank you for that. And let's pivot.

471
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Speaker 1: Let's pivot back to the field, because again, you are

472
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Speaker 1: a legend of the game.

473
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Speaker 2: You're gonna be honored there. You're gonna be there.

474
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Speaker 1: And it's incredible because it's an NFC East matchup, it's

475
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Speaker 1: a rivalry game. You have some familiarity with how tough

476
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Speaker 1: the NFC East can be. What do you expect to

477
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Speaker 1: see on that field Week two Sunday against the New

478
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Speaker 1: York Giants.

479
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Speaker 5: Well, we know about we know about.

480
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Speaker 6: If you're a fan of the Commanders, you know some

481
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 6: of the moves they were able to make in the draft.

482
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Speaker 6: And Jade Daniels is one guy who I'm really excited about.

483
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Speaker 6: I was looking at his college highlights the other day

484
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Speaker 6: and I was I saw some of the things that

485
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Speaker 6: he were able to do, from passing the ball to

486
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Speaker 6: running the ball. He's definitely a dual threat. I think

487
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 6: once he figures it out, he gets he's really comfortable,

488
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 6: he's gonna be forced direction. He's gonna be unstoppable man.

489
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Speaker 6: And when you have a quarterback like that who's so

490
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 6: that can be both both dangerous in the passing game

491
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Speaker 6: and running game, I mean it's hard to stop. I mean,

492
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Speaker 6: you look at you look at Lamar Jackson. Know what

493
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Speaker 6: he's able to do. I know he hasn't won the championship,

494
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Speaker 6: but he has the potential to win a championship. I'll

495
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 6: take my chances on a guy like that any day,

496
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Speaker 6: because I know the upside is really hot with his

497
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Speaker 6: with the ability that he's able to bring to the

498
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Speaker 6: game of football.

499
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Speaker 5: But I'm excited.

500
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Speaker 6: I think they did a great job drafting that kid,

501
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Speaker 6: and if we can continue to build the pieces around him,

502
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 6: both offensively and defensively, I think we have something to

503
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Speaker 6: work with.

504
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Speaker 1: And Vernon, Before I let you go, I gotta ask

505
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Speaker 1: every legend this. The fans love it. What's your favorite

506
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: memory here in Washington? I know tomorrow might end up

507
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,239
Speaker 1: being the new favorite because you're gonna get all that

508
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: love and the fans are gonna be screaming your name.

509
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Speaker 1: But before before Sunday, what's your favorite memory in Washington?

510
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Speaker 6: My favorite memory in Washington, I'm gonna have to say, gosh, man,

511
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 6: just I feel like every every year that I was

512
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 6: with the Washington Commanders was one of the They were

513
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 6: all amazing, man. And I say that because I had

514
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 6: a chance to. One day, I sat there and I

515
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 6: started to reflect just on my journey and just how

516
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 6: I ended up here right, and it made me so

517
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 6: like just I don't know, man, it just gave me this.

518
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 6: I felt this energy run through my body because it's

519
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 6: like I don't have to be here.

520
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 5: I don't have to be here.

521
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Speaker 6: So every year that I had with the Washington Commanders

522
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 6: was a highlight every single year because I had a

523
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Speaker 6: chance to walk in that locker room, same locker room

524
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Speaker 6: I saw when I was a kid, and interact with

525
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 6: new guys every single year and create family. And now

526
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 6: you know, I have guys that I can go to

527
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 6: that I played with him, you know, and just just

528
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 6: be there for them and I know they're gonna be

529
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Speaker 6: there for me. So it's just just awesome.

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Speaker 3: Man.

531
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Speaker 5: Every year that I was here, it's amazing.

532
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Speaker 1: And man, we are so happy to have you in

533
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: the fold Man, you deserve being honored. Can't wait to

534
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: see you on that field being the legend that you are.

535
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Speaker 1: Vernon Davis, we appreciate your time, brother, and thank you

536
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 1: for opening up to us.

537
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Speaker 2: Man. I think that can help a lot of people.

538
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 5: Out Thank you.

539
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: Now, since we're playing New York, I figured our next

540
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: man up should be somebody that has lived out there

541
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: a long time but has roots in the DMV and

542
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 1: still represents the Burgundy and Gold everywhere he.

543
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: Goes command his family.

544
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: This next man up is something we'd like to call

545
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: a super fan, not just because he loves the Burgundy

546
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: and Gold, but because he is also a superstar in.

547
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: His own right.

548
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: You've heard him on the radio Hot ninety seven hip

549
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: hop guy, You've seen him in the WWE, a wrestling guy,

550
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: and he just loves sports period.

551
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: He does so many different things.

552
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: Welcoming in our next man up, Peter Rosenberg, Pete, how

553
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: you doing bro.

554
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Speaker 7: Yo, Man?

555
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: I am happy to be here always wrapping that Burgundy

556
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: and gold.

557
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Speaker 7: Thanks for making some time for me.

558
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 1: Oh of course, man, And you know we're gonna we're

559
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna dress the elephant in the rooms. I know fans

560
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: are listening, like why Are you talking to a guy

561
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: that I hear on a hip hop radio station. What

562
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 1: is the point of having him as your next man up?

563
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: Explain really your love for the Burgundy and Gold so

564
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: the fan base can get to really know why you're

565
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: a super fan.

566
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean listen. I became a fan of

567
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: football in the late eighties. And you know, the first

568
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: first thing I got exposed to was the eighty five

569
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: Bears when I was a very little kid, like five

570
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: years old, and then that was sort of my intro

571
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: into football. And then I started hanging out with a

572
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: good friend of mine because I don't come from a

573
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 3: sports family, and a really good friend of mine, he

574
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: and his dad loved the Redskins, always had the games on,

575
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: always watching, and so I all of a sudden started

576
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: watching every week. And then, of course, you know, go

577
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: on and win the Super Bowl in eighty seven, win

578
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: it again in ninety one.

579
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Speaker 7: This is what I just.

580
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: Thought sports was like, you just fall in love with

581
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: a team and they just win championships and dominate the league.

582
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Speaker 7: It was amazing.

583
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Speaker 3: And you know, I was born in Silver Spring, grew

584
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: up in the Bethesda Chevy Chase area, so then went

585
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: to University of Maryland, stayed in the area all the

586
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Speaker 3: way till I was.

587
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Speaker 7: Twenty seven years old.

588
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Speaker 3: So and I was a huge fan from about eight

589
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: years old on. But it probably even got more intense

590
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: after I moved away, because I think sometimes when you're

591
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: not in the city, you know, the Burgundy and Gold

592
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: kind of became my real like connection to home, you

593
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

594
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, oh man, I really liked that man,

595
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: and you're a hometown guy. So I gotta know favorite

596
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: Washington memory off the ricks. I'm gonna tell you right now,

597
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: fans gonna judge you off of your favorite memory. Give

598
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: us your favorite memory as a Washington fan.

599
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Speaker 3: I would say it's it's probably I guess I should

600
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 3: say the one that just hits me immediately, which is,

601
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: if we're getting very specific and granular on these memories,

602
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 3: it would be the the Darryl Green breakup on the

603
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: Vikings attempt to try to beat us in the eighty

604
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 3: seven championship game. It was that moment when Daryl broke

605
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: up that pass that like I realized they were going

606
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl. And you know, of course, it's

607
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 3: hard to even go back into it, Like my eight

608
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: year old brain was operating, like, but I just know

609
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: that moment felt so amazing. And the Super Bowl itself

610
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: obviously was awesome, really rough first quarter, really great second quarter,

611
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,959
Speaker 3: but then by the end of the game, you know,

612
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: we were just cruising to victory, whereas the end of

613
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: the championship game had that drama, you know, that really

614
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 3: high drama at the end, So that always stood out

615
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: to me even more. And frankly, I always feel that

616
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: championship games sort of have this special thing over super

617
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: Bowls in the sense that super Bowls play in a

618
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: very odd way, like super Bowls don't generally feel like

619
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 3: regular football games in any way, whereas the championship game

620
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: is like the last regular football game of a season,

621
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: an intense football game, but it still feels like, you know,

622
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: you're not playing in a neutral site, it still has

623
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 3: that feel of a real game. So, very long way

624
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: of saying that eighty seven championship game.

625
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Speaker 1: I love asking that question because as a fan, your

626
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: team is really what makes you fall in love with

627
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: that sport, right Like, It's not just the sport, it's

628
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: those memories you have with your team. So I appreciate

629
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: you sharing that, And obviously you've seen highs and you've

630
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: seen lows when it comes to Washington, But.

631
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Speaker 2: Now we're in a different era. Things just feel a

632
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: little different.

633
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: Can you explain what it's like for you as a

634
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: fan seeing all the different things that are happening, seeing

635
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: the new co staff, new ownership, all these changes. What

636
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: is it like for you as a fan, especially somebody

637
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: that's removed from the DMV right now?

638
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 7: Oh No, it's been a great, you know, turn of

639
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 7: events the last couple of years.

640
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: It's been really nice to turn the right direction and

641
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: turn the page into a new future. And this group

642
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: that now runs the team. I'm very excited just that

643
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: we have new energy. You know, I really didn't think

644
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: it was possible that it would ever happen, and so

645
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: the fact that we actually took that step.

646
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Speaker 7: And turned the page for me is a huge deal. Honestly,

647
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 7: it was.

648
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: One of the biggest sports things ever in my life,

649
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: was that this change has happened because I did not

650
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: expect it. I have a lot of tough memories from

651
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: you know, the year two thousand through twenty two, twenty three,

652
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: whatever it was, twenty two, you know, a lot of tough,

653
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: tough moments there. Listen, nothing's going to change overnight, as

654
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: we just learned in week one, I certainly had some

655
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: certainly had some moments where I was like, wait a second,

656
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to feel this feeling anymore.

657
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Speaker 7: But overall, big.

658
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Speaker 3: Picture, I just like the way we're operating and I

659
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: have a real faith in what's going on right now.

660
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned week one, so let's get right into

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Speaker 1: it because we're recording this on a Monday now. So

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Speaker 1: you're the first person I've actually got to talk to

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Speaker 1: since Postgame Live with Brian Mitchell and Santana Moss. So

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Speaker 1: your initial reactions, right you said you had some moments

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Speaker 1: that you know.

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Speaker 2: Weren't didn't make you feel the best.

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Speaker 1: But overall, how did you feel just seeing what this

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Speaker 1: new offense can look like, what this new defense can

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Speaker 1: look like, what this new coaching.

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Speaker 2: Staff can do with the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 7: The offense felt promising.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously I would love to see number seventeen

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Speaker 3: get targeted considerably more than he was. But you saw

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Speaker 3: the things that Jaden is capable of yesterday. I mean

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Speaker 3: it was really a microcosm of everything I've seen of

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Speaker 3: JD so far, which is obviously his ability to take

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Speaker 3: off when the pocket breaks down is just incredible and special.

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Speaker 3: The one thing I worried about in my observations of

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Speaker 3: the preseason, we're sort of some basic things not quite

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Speaker 3: being there every time yet, like even the first play

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Speaker 3: of the game, right, like just a poor screen pass

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Speaker 3: that leads to a thirteen yard loss. Like little things

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Speaker 3: like that that I want to see him get more

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Speaker 3: comfortable with day in day out. But I loved what

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Speaker 3: I saw from from Jayden Daniels. That wasn't really my

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Speaker 3: concern overall. I would say, let's get it. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: this has been talked about already at nauseum in DC.

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Speaker 3: Let's get a helmet that fits. Let's let's get that

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Speaker 3: squared away. Number one, because your helmet should not be

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Speaker 3: popping off twice during game. And number two, let's talk

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Speaker 3: about these sliding situation and how we're gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: Because the head first tumble that ain't gonna work for me. Bro,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I need that to get straightened out a

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Speaker 3: little bit, because that just worries me.

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Speaker 7: That ends up being a separated shoulder some a neck

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Speaker 7: thing like.

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Speaker 3: But that's me mentioning the negative, the fact that he

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Speaker 3: what I loved about what Jayden did in Game one,

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Speaker 3: was his patience in the pocket and truly using running

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Speaker 3: at the as the last option but doing so effectively

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Speaker 3: but offensively.

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Speaker 7: Zach Ertz looked great.

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Speaker 3: Oh man. I loved what Austin Eckler looked like yesterday.

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Speaker 3: A lot of spring in Austin Eckler's step that was fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Protection needs to be better, but overall I saw clear

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Speaker 3: positives in the offensive game, a lot of growth to

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Speaker 3: see from the defense. But honestly, the way this game

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Speaker 3: is played now, as you know, like the couple of games,

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Speaker 3: it's really seeing a team figure out what they are

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Speaker 3: because the preseason has become such a weird halfway preseason,

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Speaker 3: but hey man, it's early in the season. The things

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Speaker 3: that I hear around league from how people feel about DQ,

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Speaker 3: it's always super positive. So certainly some things to grow

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Speaker 3: on and also some things that you can feel good

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Speaker 3: about from.

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Speaker 1: Game one, Peter, I appreciate that hearing you talk, man,

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Speaker 1: because it's very obvious you are a true faman and

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Speaker 1: you're watching the game very closely, and I've been listening

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Speaker 1: to you. I've heard you on JP and be missed

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Speaker 1: the show a few times, and you were optimistic this season, right,

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Speaker 1: you were reasonably optimistic. You said you expect at least

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Speaker 1: eight wins, eight to ten wins. Did that optimism change

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Speaker 1: at all after week one? Are you still sticking with that?

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Speaker 1: Are you still feeling the optimism you were feeling before

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Speaker 1: week one?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 3: It certainly obviously a day like that certainly makes you

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Speaker 3: start thinking about eight more than ten, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 7: But that's really about the defense, bro.

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Speaker 3: I mean this, if this defense is better than they

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Speaker 3: looked yesterday, So if they can tighten things up and

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Speaker 3: become a defense that gets you off the field on

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Speaker 3: third down, then yeah, I think that by the time

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Speaker 3: we get role, I think.

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Speaker 7: This offense will be click clacking. I really do. I

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Speaker 7: think that scoring will not be a big problem.

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Speaker 3: I think the combo of b Rob and Austin Eckler

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Speaker 3: super slept on. I loved seeing how spry Ertz looked

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Speaker 3: at this point in his career, and obviously have a

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Speaker 3: lot of faith in this wide receiver group, who we

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Speaker 3: did not see a lot from yesterday. You know, Like

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Speaker 3: I listened certainly at times, I don't think the quarterback

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Speaker 3: had the time that he needed to watch routes play out.

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Speaker 3: But also it's a matter of, you know, people learning

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Speaker 3: each other. And we've seen Terry learn a lot of

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Speaker 3: different quarterbacks and I think at some point here him

748
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Speaker 3: and the kid will really get on the same page

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Speaker 3: and we'll get going. So the offense, I have a

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Speaker 3: lot of confidence in the defense gonna it's gonna need

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Speaker 3: to do better than it did yesterday for us to

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Speaker 3: have a fun season.

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Speaker 1: Peter, I got a feeling, you know, I'm an optimistic guy,

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Speaker 1: but I got a feeling you're gonna see more from

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Speaker 1: that defense.

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Speaker 2: I think you look at that game and you look.

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Speaker 1: At field positioning too, right, they were not put in

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Speaker 1: the best field position, especially early on. So I do

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Speaker 1: think we will see some more positives from that defense.

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Speaker 1: But I completely agree with you on that offense. And

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Speaker 1: you're a New York guy, right, You're out there now,

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Speaker 1: you've been in New York for a long time. That

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Speaker 1: has become home for you, your household name in that city.

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Speaker 1: But you never really straight away from the Burgundy and Gold,

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Speaker 1: which I really respect because I'm telling you, the Giants

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Speaker 1: fans are the worst fans ever, the worst fan bas ever,

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Speaker 1: and you had probably have to deal with them a

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Speaker 1: lot and argue with them a lot. What has it

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Speaker 1: been like being a Burgundy and Gold fan in New

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Speaker 1: York for so long and having to be attached to

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Speaker 1: so many Giant fans.

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Speaker 7: It's it's challenging.

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Speaker 3: It's challenging, particularly as you know, even though the last

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Speaker 3: decade has been tough for the Giants. You know that

775
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Speaker 3: run from I came up here in oh seven, So

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Speaker 3: that first five to seven years, what could we say?

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Speaker 7: I had nothing to say.

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Speaker 3: We were nothing but a disaster, and they were nothing

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Speaker 3: but winning.

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Speaker 7: You know, they found a way, and so you really

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Speaker 7: didn't have much to say.

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Speaker 3: The last several years, you know, they've been a little quieter,

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Speaker 3: to be honest, on account of just how messy that

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Speaker 3: team has been.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's an.

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Speaker 3: Interesting question though, because like, is there really any worse

788
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Speaker 3: fan base than the Cowboys, because the Cowboys fan base

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Speaker 3: feels like it's everyone that's let me let me say

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Speaker 3: here's what I'll say. Okay, Eagles fans are the meanest.

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Speaker 3: Giants fans are the most annoying, boom annoying, and these

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Speaker 3: cause the Giants fans love to argue and they're just

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Speaker 3: you know, they're just a pain that you know what,

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Speaker 3: And and like I said, with the winning that they

795
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Speaker 3: had over that period, it got even more difficult. But

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys fans are so irritating on account of they

797
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: just pop up everywhere and you're like, you're.

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Speaker 2: A Cowboy fan? Where do you?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing here? Why is he around? What

800
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: did you get to how? And they're always on TV.

801
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: They're always so like, oh, this is the year. So

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Speaker 3: it's a tough question because I know lots of Giants

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Speaker 3: fans who are great, like just living in the area. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I know so many that I know the whole range,

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Speaker 3: Like I know the really normal, cool season ticket holding,

806
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: tailgate having lovely like just kind of classy Giant fan.

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Speaker 3: Because there is a classy Giant fan. I'm gonna give

808
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 3: them that. That's something that Jets don't have as much.

809
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: Of the Giants do have a classy segment of their

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Speaker 3: It's not all of it, it's not all of it.

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Speaker 3: We saw people out there waiting for uh for Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jones yesterday yelling Danny Daniel Pennies and yelling at the guy.

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Speaker 7: So but yeah, no, man, it's tough. It's tough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I married a woman who's was a Giants fan.

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Speaker 3: She knows what time it is. Now, Yeah, we'll see

816
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 3: how this, We'll see how this Sunday goes. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, this is a commander's household.

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Speaker 7: Though she knows, she knows the time.

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Speaker 2: That's how you handle it.

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Speaker 1: I always tell my friends that, man, you gotta make

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Speaker 1: your lady a fan of your teams because you're watching

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Speaker 1: all those games and she has to be there supporting

823
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Speaker 1: you too. So I respect that a lot. And we're

824
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Speaker 1: gonna let you go, man, because we know you're busy.

825
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: But of course we have to talk about this matchup.

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Speaker 1: This Sunday, we will be playing the Giants at home.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna pull up, You're gonna make an appearance of

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 3: So I thought about going to this game. I'm a wait,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna wait. I did want to be

831
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Speaker 3: there for the first JDH intro, like proper Intro at FedEx,

832
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Speaker 3: I did want to be there for that, the first

833
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Speaker 3: proper JD intro at home.

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Speaker 7: It seemed like the adope opportunity. But I'm a wait.

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Speaker 3: I just had a lot of stuff going on. I

836
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Speaker 3: think I'm gonna try to make the Dallas game in

837
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Speaker 3: November instead. But I'll tell you, man, I went to

838
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Speaker 3: the Giants game last year. I think I went to

839
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Speaker 3: the Giants game maybe two or three. Bro.

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Speaker 7: It's brutal.

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Speaker 3: I mean the way that no matter how bad the

842
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: Giants are, like, we get on the field and they

843
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Speaker 3: are a different team.

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Speaker 7: Man, it is so irritating.

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Speaker 3: So like, I really see next week as a huge

846
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Speaker 3: deal because this Giants team is going to be emotionally

847
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Speaker 3: beaten down. They did not score a touchdown in Week one.

848
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Speaker 3: Their fans were booing them off the field. They do

849
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Speaker 3: not feel good. We have a home game debuting our

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Speaker 3: new quarterback. You gotta go win this game. I don't

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Speaker 3: care what the history tells.

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 7: Go beat the Giants. Man.

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Speaker 1: I beat this team, and I'm sure every fan is

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Speaker 1: feeling that same way. Peter, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: your time. We appreciate you. I hope you're on the

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Speaker 1: radio every single day talking about the Commanders and making

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Speaker 1: Giants fans feel silly this week and next week after

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Speaker 1: we get that w last thing.

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Speaker 2: Just tell us what you're working on.

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Speaker 1: Tell us where people can follow you find you, because

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Speaker 1: I'm sure after this interview you're gonna have a lot

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Speaker 1: of Burgundy and Gold fans loving you.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I appreciate that, man well.

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Speaker 3: For on the sports side of things, I do a

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Speaker 3: me on the WWE as well. And then of course

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Speaker 7: Those are the main places to catch me.

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Speaker 1: A very busy man, indeed, Peter, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: Peter Rosenberg, a super fan of the Burgundy and Gold.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your time, Bro.

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Speaker 7: Thanks man Hell.

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