Speaker 1: Hey, that folks, it is Saturday, June thirteenth. Bea got
Speaker 1: kicked out, mel got hooked up with Bourbon, and everybody
Speaker 1: was crying. And that was episode nine. Yes, episode nine island.
Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. I guess
Speaker 1: that's the major take some of the stuff we saw coming.
Speaker 1: I guess the Bea thing we saw coming Beatrice. But yes,
Speaker 1: Bea is gone. There was a whole lot going on
Speaker 1: here robes in this episode. I mean there's point after
Speaker 1: point after point. But I guess that's the big headline.
Speaker 1: BEA's gone. She was I don't know she was. I
Speaker 1: thought she was a nice addition to the house.
Speaker 2: I thought she was a rare, authentic voice of reason
Speaker 2: and sanity. She really was the glue, I think, and
Speaker 2: she prevented a lot of drama from happening. Maybe producers
Speaker 2: are happy she's leaving because I actually think her being
Speaker 2: as as straightforward and honest and confident as she was,
Speaker 2: she had the respect of the entire villa, and she
Speaker 2: stepped in in moments. She did cause a little drama once,
Speaker 2: but that was more Melanie's reaction rather than her doing.
Speaker 2: But it'll be interesting to see without her there. How
Speaker 2: the dynamics change, at least among the women, it could
Speaker 2: get really ugly.
Speaker 1: You know what, you said something there. She was a rare,
Speaker 1: authentic bird in there that didn't seem like she was
Speaker 1: playing the game. She didn't seem like she was manipulating
Speaker 1: this person or that person. She said whatever she thought
Speaker 1: at the time, then let the chips fall where they may.
Speaker 1: She was. She wasn't harsh, She wasn't mean, she was
Speaker 1: up front. I think at her and probably kc have
Speaker 1: kind of the same mind. He's a little sweeter and
Speaker 1: sometimes his delivery than she could be. But I never
Speaker 1: thought she was harsh or me I hate to see
Speaker 1: her go.
Speaker 2: I do too. And look, we kind of saw the
Speaker 2: writing on the wall though, because once we knew America
Speaker 2: was voting for who they thought each bombshell should hook
Speaker 2: up with, it was pretty obvious. It was funny to me.
Speaker 2: So just we'll go over the three new couples. So
Speaker 2: America voted that Caleb should be with Kenzi. Not a
Speaker 2: shocker at all.
Speaker 1: Everybody saw that coming.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think Kenzi and Corbyn, yes, I mean that
Speaker 2: was not a shocker. Then Gabrielle and jen he seems shocked.
Speaker 2: Jen seemed shocked, and Beatrice seems shocked. But I wasn't
Speaker 2: for you. That's what we were predicting.
Speaker 1: And what was say the last couple and then this
Speaker 1: will I'll answer that question.
Speaker 2: Well, the last couple we obviously knew it was Sincere
Speaker 2: and Soul.
Speaker 1: Okay, duh. So those last two couples the reason I
Speaker 1: was shocked by, or what shouldn't have been shocked by,
Speaker 1: Gabrielle and s Jen America voted before we saw this
Speaker 1: most recent episode where those connections didn't make sense right right,
Speaker 1: So people didn't get to see Sincere and mel make
Speaker 1: up and be all happy together the votes were in.
Speaker 2: I saw that at the beginning of this episode, the
Speaker 2: votes were already in, and you see this serious conversation
Speaker 2: between Sincere and mel because really it did look like
Speaker 2: they were absolutely done, and he seemed to have made
Speaker 2: just some really stupid moves that were going to blow
Speaker 2: up in his face. But no, Melanie forgives him, wants
Speaker 2: to try again, per usual, and he is literally walking
Speaker 2: her as you hoist up a new bride over the threshold,
Speaker 2: walking her through the villa. They're like thicke as thieves,
Speaker 2: through the game.
Speaker 1: My man back, she's yelling that was too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was short lived.
Speaker 1: It was very very short lived. But we America had
Speaker 1: already voted, they had already seen her showing her ass.
Speaker 1: They'd already seen him be relieved to have somebody else
Speaker 1: in the villa that was connecting and vibing with him.
Speaker 1: And yes, in that moment, I would have voted for Saul.
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, when Melanie watches this all back,
Speaker 2: which I'm only going to assume she will, she's going
Speaker 2: to see the reason why America voted Soul to be
Speaker 2: with Sincere. It was Sincere's doing so She's going to
Speaker 2: be hot when she sees that. And look, you know,
Speaker 2: she handled it. I think as best as she could
Speaker 2: for her. She pulled herself together. When I mean, I
Speaker 2: think she obviously knew once they said America was voting,
Speaker 2: she knew that the Soul was going to be put
Speaker 2: together with Sincere. And look, she tried to say, I'm
Speaker 2: cool with it, y'all do your thing, you explore, I'm
Speaker 2: going to do my thing, but she had tears just
Speaker 2: pouring down her eye, hurting.
Speaker 1: That's fine, she was hurting, that's fine. How could she
Speaker 1: not be. They were just on good had got into
Speaker 1: a better Footageeah, well, I say that, Robes, and after
Speaker 1: the whole they had rekindled and everything's perfect in this episode,
Speaker 1: what is he going do? He goes and has a
Speaker 1: conversation with his boys about still talking about exploring soul.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was weird and I know you all had
Speaker 2: to have seen it to what the hell? This guy
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the episode is saying he's sorry
Speaker 2: to mel saying he knows he shouldn't have spent all
Speaker 2: that time up there and that she was his only
Speaker 2: focus and that he's no longer pursuing soul like literally
Speaker 2: says this to her once again, reassures her, tells her
Speaker 2: it's you and me like that's it. And then what
Speaker 2: minutes later, he's talking to his boys and he says
Speaker 2: he is still exploring soul, like literally verbatim, the opposite
Speaker 2: of what he just told Melanie.
Speaker 1: Okay, well it's a game, I guess, but Rope that
Speaker 1: since here has been wrong, he's been wrong in this
Speaker 1: whole situation. He says, no way to try to bounce. Look,
Speaker 1: do your think, but don't look at her in the
Speaker 1: face and tell her you're doing one thing and then
Speaker 1: go upstairs and let her literally see you do another that.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what he used. I don't know
Speaker 1: how he's playing this game. You know what I recognize.
Speaker 1: I didn't write it down. Yes, this brings me back,
Speaker 1: you say, I always Yeah, I tell you, always looking
Speaker 1: for a relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lessons.
Speaker 1: This is a guy. This is a very classic case.
Speaker 1: Seen it before, and sad to say, I've probably done this.
Speaker 1: But he is not trying to have his cake and
Speaker 1: eat it too. He wants his cake and he wants
Speaker 1: another cake on standby. He is just saying it's just
Speaker 1: enough to keep Melanie interested enough, and just enough to
Speaker 1: keep soul interested enough. He knows all he has to
Speaker 1: do is say he looked mel should be done with
Speaker 1: him done, and let that's another Let that be a lesson.
Speaker 1: You know how many times you want to keep forgiving
Speaker 1: and forgiving and forgiving. I've used this line before, Rogan.
Speaker 1: It's somewhat jokingly that men are only dogs because women
Speaker 1: allow us to be. And I say that because how
Speaker 1: many times did he have to shit on her? In
Speaker 1: this episode he did the same thing, looked on the face,
Speaker 1: went upstairs, did the opposite in her face, came down.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Boop went back, did the exact same thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, I know it's a show and in
Speaker 1: a different context, but what we're seeing rope, she should
Speaker 1: have been done with him.
Speaker 2: It's so tough because I see it from her perspective.
Speaker 2: And look, he does seem like a nice guy. He
Speaker 2: does seem like a nice guy who's conflicted. But he's
Speaker 2: making bad choices. He's doing the wrong thing. He is
Speaker 2: hurting her. But I understand what she sees in him.
Speaker 2: That's good. I totally get where.
Speaker 1: She's coming, doesn't It makes sense. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Now, he knows he's not the worst
Speaker 1: guy in the world. He senses what she senses in him.
Speaker 1: He's exploiting it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1: He he is taking advantage of the fact that he
Speaker 1: is a good guy and that she sees it, and
Speaker 1: he's giving her just enough. He's using little words and
Speaker 1: little catch is just holding on enough and giving enough
Speaker 1: hope for the next thing. She should have been. He
Speaker 1: looked at her in the face and said, it's only
Speaker 1: me and you and went and made out for an
Speaker 1: hour in front of her almost literally.
Speaker 2: Right, that's crazy. When you put it like that, that
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: So just I get I know it's a game and
Speaker 1: all these things, but that's a that's another. It's glaring
Speaker 1: how he is really trying to say just enough to
Speaker 1: keep everybody close enough.
Speaker 2: What's glaring is you mentioned the game. Let's talk about
Speaker 2: the game and what happened with Soul because now he
Speaker 2: is with Soul. Now, let's just remember that. But during
Speaker 2: that game, he and Mel were all over each other.
Speaker 2: And if anyone obviously, if you're listening to this, we'll
Speaker 2: assume he were watching. But you either got a kiss
Speaker 2: or a pie, and people said good things are bad
Speaker 2: things about you, and pick the girl or the guy
Speaker 2: that they thought represented whatever it was they were describing.
Speaker 2: Be got the two negative I'm sorry, Soul got the
Speaker 2: two negative things said about her. So she got two
Speaker 2: eyes in her face. She's literally sobbing, crying most of
Speaker 2: the episode. For most of the episode, and there's Mel
Speaker 2: like straddling Sincere during the games, and then cut to
Speaker 2: the end and whammo, the tables are turned and now
Speaker 2: Soul is with Sincere. I wonder like how Soul felt
Speaker 2: about that all happening to her because of Sincere's games.
Speaker 1: Yes, he is responsible for where everybody is now who
Speaker 1: he wants to be with. I don't know who he
Speaker 1: wants to be with. He doesn't want to feel bad
Speaker 1: about anything. He doesn't want to feel bad about. But
Speaker 1: if Melanie got kicked off last night, he might have gone,
Speaker 1: he'd have had a moment. But yeah, they have been
Speaker 1: a mess for the past two three episode.
Speaker 2: But he seems like I believe him when he looks
Speaker 2: at her and says I want to be with you,
Speaker 2: like it's so hard to think that he's just completely
Speaker 2: making that up.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't believe he's making that up. If if
Speaker 1: Soul we're not in the building, he would mean it more.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, Okay, has that? Yes, the best way
Speaker 1: to put the best thing I can do. He is
Speaker 1: leaving the door cracked a little bit for Soul, and
Speaker 1: to do that he has to toy with Melanie a
Speaker 1: little bit and she's going along with.
Speaker 2: So what do you think is gonna happen this week
Speaker 2: in the villa? Because now Melanie is coupled up with Corbyn, who,
Speaker 2: obviously Sincere was already jealous of. And now you've got
Speaker 2: Sincere and Soul together. How does that work in that villa?
Speaker 2: They all sleep in the same room together, they're together
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, Like, what is that mess going
Speaker 2: to be? Like?
Speaker 1: I think there will probably have to be a conversation
Speaker 1: with Melanie and Sincere. They'll go do the whole Can
Speaker 1: I pull you for a second thing? We'll see who's
Speaker 1: hurt enough to say. Somebody might say no, but they
Speaker 1: they're gonna get past it. We're all moving on. I
Speaker 1: think it all boils down to Corbyn. I think what
Speaker 1: happens in this show boils down to Corbyn and Sincere
Speaker 1: end up together. Is going to boil down to Corbin
Speaker 1: and how she ultimately once she spends time and tries
Speaker 1: to connect with Corbin, when she sees more about him,
Speaker 1: is he more than this hunk man that she was
Speaker 1: very excited about. If they are able to do that,
Speaker 1: is she going to just be fooling herself so she
Speaker 1: can get to the end and get to maybe one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and try to win this thing. Is she
Speaker 1: going to go overboard because she wants to make Sincere jealous.
Speaker 2: Or is that's what I think she's going to do.
Speaker 1: But is there going to be enough there with Corbin?
Speaker 1: Because if not, I could see her ultimately with Sincere
Speaker 1: in some kind of way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this is what people love when you think
Speaker 2: about drama, and this is all happening almost in real time,
Speaker 2: in front of our eyes, without a Hollywood script, and
Speaker 2: now we get to root for people. Right, So the
Speaker 2: fact that they're broken up is the perfect This happens
Speaker 2: in a rom com. There's the false ending. They're never
Speaker 2: going to be together, they're torn apart. That's where we
Speaker 2: are on the rom pom of this false ending. And
Speaker 2: then if you have to wait for it, you have
Speaker 2: to wait for it. There's gonna be tears, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be hard. And then if they get back together, people
Speaker 2: will be either rooting for them or screaming no. But
Speaker 2: you'll have a feeling, you'll have a you'll have an
Speaker 2: intense feeling about it either way. After what happens this week, babe,
Speaker 2: aren't we too early in the rom com for a
Speaker 2: false ending? Too early?
Speaker 1: Right? It's also six weeks.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is early, but we can see but maybe
Speaker 2: if there is a false ending early, we'll have more
Speaker 2: time if they actually do work out for the toxicity
Speaker 2: to go away, for we for us to actually like
Speaker 2: be rooting for them because they're a healthy couple now
Speaker 2: because they weather the storms and then you have to
Speaker 2: actually believe they're solid and not because right now they're
Speaker 2: still toxic. You have to believe there's but they have
Speaker 2: to get through this storm. So yeah, they might need
Speaker 2: the extra time for America to come around.
Speaker 1: My favorite couple right now really is Zach and Casey.
Speaker 1: If those two area and Zach and Casey the two Kay, see,
Speaker 1: I like those the two so funny. Favorite islanders right now,
Speaker 1: two men, love those two guys. I love Zach, Kay,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I love Casey and Anaa's cool, But I
Speaker 1: just I feel so strongly about those two guys right now.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, when we come back, we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about how you feel.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about how you want to You
Speaker 1: want to eat snacks, not talking. Tell me to stretch
Speaker 1: if you need to know.
Speaker 2: It's okay. By the way, a little macaroon at the
Speaker 2: hot at the hotel left behind, the at the hotel
Speaker 2: left behind anyway, So the break here I wanted to tease.
Speaker 2: We talked about our strong feelings how do we feel
Speaker 2: about Bryce these days? We'll tell you all about it
Speaker 2: when we come back. Welcome back everyone to Our Love Island,
Speaker 2: Episode nine, episode of Amy and Tej. How about that?
Speaker 2: But yes, we talked about our feelings. You say you
Speaker 2: love Casey, you love Zach? How do you feel about
Speaker 2: Bryce these days?
Speaker 1: Bryce is fine? Bryce? You know what, there was an
Speaker 1: impression we had oor Bryce at the very beginning, Southern California,
Speaker 1: guy Planet, loose model DJ doing his thing. He didn't
Speaker 1: seem like he made the best decisions all the time.
Speaker 1: You know what. This was in line he's on brand.
Speaker 1: It kind of was. It was like, bless his heart.
Speaker 1: It wasn't malicious like it was. It was difficult to like,
Speaker 1: you couldn't get through to him that brother, don't do this.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. But him doing it wasn't
Speaker 1: mean spirited.
Speaker 2: Isn't that weird?
Speaker 1: But you're right?
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, So Bryce basically upset Trinity, understandably because telling
Speaker 2: her that she's his favorite in the villa, but he
Speaker 2: needs to see if this thing with Kana could go
Speaker 2: somewhere with Kada, by the way, and then he goes
Speaker 2: and tells Zach his best bro like they've got an
Speaker 2: adorable friendship and says, hey, I'm gonna go for your girl.
Speaker 2: Hope you don't mind. Okay, when has that ever worked?
Speaker 1: It was? It was bizarre, And you know what, I
Speaker 1: think they've all so far handled it fairly well, wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: Say, because I think they all felt exactly the way
Speaker 2: you did, Bless his little heart. Everyone knew that Kada
Speaker 2: wasn't into him except for him, and so it was
Speaker 2: almost embarrassing, like, please don't do this, dude. No, you're
Speaker 2: only embarrassing yourself. They couldn't be mad because they felt
Speaker 2: sorry for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach laughed at him, Kada felt sorry for him.
Speaker 1: Let him down easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a little hurt.
Speaker 1: But you now know how I feel about him. She
Speaker 1: seems more into him than he is into her right now,
Speaker 1: and we'll see, we'll see what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just that ended up. There was pity, and
Speaker 2: I think that's actually probably if you think about it,
Speaker 2: the last feeling you would prefer someone to feel for you.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't anger. It was pity.
Speaker 1: But again, Bryce stays on brand. I look, I am
Speaker 1: still the Gabrielle and Jen thing right, Yes, yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: the blonde, right, don't know where that's going, but I'm
Speaker 1: not feeling them right.
Speaker 2: Well, they only had one good conversation, and again, as
Speaker 2: you pointed out, that was the night where everybody was voting,
Speaker 2: but apparently the app crashed so they had to extend it.
Speaker 2: But the night that the voting took place, they had
Speaker 2: that one good conversation where her dream is to live
Speaker 2: in Miami. He was like, you should come to Miami.
Speaker 2: And so it did seem like there was more of
Speaker 2: a spark between them. It really did seem like it
Speaker 2: was a friendship and like maybe a mutual respect between
Speaker 2: Gabrielle and Beatrice, but there did seem to be a
Speaker 2: little bit of a romantic spark between Jen and Gabrielle.
Speaker 1: Kensy and Caleb. How are we feeling about them?
Speaker 2: I think that they could be a thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, how we're feeling about Corbyn? Melanie? We'll see what
Speaker 1: what you know. I thought it was an honest answer.
Speaker 1: I liked she gave it the end essentially saying well,
Speaker 1: I have to see what this connection is before at
Speaker 1: this point that's true. Yeah, maybe she'll be open to it,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: What, And maybe going through all of this, she will
Speaker 2: either realize that it is in fact Sincere she loves
Speaker 2: or she'll see maybe perhaps Sincere four love well he
Speaker 2: actually is. Well, I mean people start falling in love
Speaker 2: in the show. It is called Love Island. Correct. I
Speaker 2: did want to say, how cool was it? We were laughing,
Speaker 2: this is how guys do it. But between Corbyn and Caleb,
Speaker 2: they both knew it was gonna come down to one
Speaker 2: or the other with Kenzie. Now they didn't know at
Speaker 2: that point that America was going to vote and that
Speaker 2: they were going to pick Kenzie for Caleb, but beforehand
Speaker 2: they kind of just looked at each other and said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got a connection with her, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so do I And they what do they say? Let
Speaker 2: the best man win?
Speaker 1: That was it. We've been talking about this a lot
Speaker 1: the past week or so with this show, just how
Speaker 1: men handle things, how women handle things, and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just kind of okay.
Speaker 2: It was hilarious and beautiful to witness and watch. I thought,
Speaker 2: you know what I think I wrote down, I took notes.
Speaker 2: I said, that's how you do it.
Speaker 1: One relationship lesson to take away from this Robes there
Speaker 1: was a lot of comparison suffering in this one in
Speaker 1: comparison of who heard who worse, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of them saying, yeah, you did that, but yeah, what
Speaker 1: he did was way worse. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: that back and forth, and I stopped and I took
Speaker 1: note of it, and I recognized that is a huge
Speaker 1: relationship mistake. If you throw that in somebody's face or you,
Speaker 1: in your mind are taking anything off of your offence
Speaker 1: by being able to say that person did worse, that
Speaker 1: means you're not actually taking responsibility. I saw that a
Speaker 1: lot in this episode.
Speaker 2: You're right, and girls do tend to do that, and
Speaker 2: that well, yes, because especially when you're defending your girlfriend. Hey,
Speaker 2: I know, because Melanie was basically taking responsibility saying I
Speaker 2: know that I acted crazy, and the girls were saying,
Speaker 2: oh no, but that's fine, but what he did was
Speaker 2: way worse than what you did. So and I have
Speaker 2: heard that. We us girls, we do say that, but
Speaker 2: that's usually in defense of our girls. But yeah, we
Speaker 2: do go there, and that is not that's normal a
Speaker 2: healthy thing to do, but it is normal. You're just
Speaker 2: getting a little window into the hen ha done it.
Speaker 1: We've all done it all, We've experienced it. In relationships.
Speaker 1: I just saw it happen. Oh no, I'm not putting
Speaker 1: on a man or the woman. Oh guys, do that
Speaker 1: crap really? Oh my good god, God do that crap
Speaker 1: all the time. But yeah, but she's at that. But
Speaker 1: then the last time of this, But then you asked
Speaker 1: for this, but then she didn't let you do this
Speaker 1: last time. Remember, it's always some kind of little compared.
Speaker 1: Remember a guy who wants his boy to like go
Speaker 1: out with him or go to the game and take
Speaker 1: the fishing trip will remind his friend of all the
Speaker 1: times his wife didn't let him do something last time.
Speaker 1: Remember that time she wanted to go with her girls.
Speaker 1: You ain't say nothing right. It's always that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and it gets in your head.
Speaker 2: And that's and it's not healthy. It undermines the relationship
Speaker 2: in the end. But yes, we always do see these
Speaker 2: fun little nuggets for our relationship moving forward when we
Speaker 2: watch Love Island and guess what, there's another episode tonight,
Speaker 2: So yay us everybody. In the meantime, though, thank you
Speaker 2: for listening. I made me robock alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll
Speaker 2: talk to you soon.