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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of selective ignorance.

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Speaker 2: It's your girl, Mandy B. And you know what, I'm tired,

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Speaker 2: tired of the lie.

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Speaker 1: We was sold that shiny little thing called the American dream,

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Speaker 1: the one with the degrees, the nine to five in

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Speaker 1: the house, with the white pick of fence to kids,

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Speaker 1: and the golden retriever. Yep, that dream, and it's looking

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Speaker 1: more like a nightmare these days now.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I got degrees plural, okay, and with them debt deep

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Speaker 1: salt snatch and interests accruing debt.

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Speaker 2: They said education was key, but forgot to mention.

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Speaker 1: It unlock bills, not wealth. And in this economy, those

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Speaker 1: degrees don't guarantee shit. Rent is higher than salaries, eggs

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Speaker 1: costs more than my sanity. And don't get me started

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Speaker 1: on trying to own anything. Y'all heard my thoughts and

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Speaker 1: views on purchasing and owning property in my episode with Ish,

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Speaker 1: and if you haven't, make sure you go check that out.

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Speaker 1: And relationships don't even match the script anymore. We were

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Speaker 1: told to find the one, subtle down, split bills, and

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Speaker 1: raise a family. But these outdated gender roles, these unrealistic timelines.

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Speaker 1: That's not partnership. That's pressure. The truth is, the dream

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Speaker 1: was never built for all of us. It was curated

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Speaker 1: for a time, a people, and a privilege.

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Speaker 2: Y'all.

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Speaker 1: See what I did there That doesn't reflect the chaos

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Speaker 1: we live in now, and yet we still feel guilty

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Speaker 1: when we can't make it all happen. Nah, it's not us,

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Speaker 1: it's the dream that's broken. And this week, y'all, I

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Speaker 1: am joined to have this conversation with my good friend,

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Speaker 1: first generation Ghanaian American and cultural commentator Domity Pongo.

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Speaker 2: Y'all, this is selective ignorance.

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Speaker 1: Sit back, buckle up, and get ready for another episode. Well,

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Speaker 1: based on my views, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: the American dream is an actual fluke. But I'm here

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Speaker 1: with someone to debate me because you know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: first generation anything. I'm just American. But we do have

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Speaker 1: a wonderful guest with us today. We have Domitity Pongo,

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Speaker 1: who is former MTV News correspondent. Y'all have probably seen

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Speaker 1: his work all over Paramount including MTV. He is the

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Speaker 1: current host of MTV's True Life series as well as

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Speaker 1: the host of Chestnut Checkers podcast. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: couldn't go through all of the things that you do,

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Speaker 1: because y'all may see him on any and every red

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Speaker 1: carpet for any and every MTV Awards show, every festival,

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Speaker 1: all the things. But I also have two guys that

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Speaker 1: shall are very familiar with that, unfortunately I have to introduce.

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Speaker 2: But we are also very American here, so well, okay,

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Speaker 2: Puerto Rican, Puerto Rico is American.

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Speaker 3: I'm suffering, We've gotten there. Colonialism the US gives me

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Speaker 3: a different name. So in spirit, in spirit, you American. No,

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Speaker 3: in spirit, I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Okay, we.

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Speaker 3: Insperiment. I'm aligning with this with Ghana and my brother

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Speaker 3: over here.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's Jason Rodriguez Stordinaire and a king. Why

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Speaker 2: are we taking all of this out?

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Speaker 4: How did you act?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get slept down?

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Speaker 5: Nobody get a child tet journalist, right.

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Speaker 4: Funny? Not funny though.

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Speaker 1: We we weren't recording, but it was really funny. So

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Speaker 1: did my research on Domecy and saw that he was

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Speaker 1: first generation Gaian American and literally so I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: him about his family and I was like, are you

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Speaker 1: were they?

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Speaker 2: Can I can I call you an immigrant?

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Speaker 4: Like she thought it was a slur.

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Speaker 2: She's like are you and we were talking.

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Speaker 1: About because where we're at, I'm like this thing a truck.

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Speaker 5: The climate has changed the wording around everything. I think

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Speaker 5: we underestimated pre Trump era what the president means for

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Speaker 5: how we look through everything in the American lens, Like right,

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Speaker 5: the word to use uses how he and I said off,

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Speaker 5: I was saying the same thing like he says Mexican,

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Speaker 5: Like it's a slur.

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Speaker 4: So even when you say, you know Mexican, you be

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Speaker 4: kind of like, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Why he removed Mexico from the golf, He said, the

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Speaker 1: Gulf of America, the Gulf of the United.

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Speaker 2: States of America. Like, I agree.

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Speaker 4: I am first, I am the proud son of immigrants. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I love being from Ghana. I love my grandmothers and sisters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like so being from Ghana.

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Speaker 1: So I'm from Florida, another country too, you know.

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Speaker 2: So embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: But my views on being born here and the privilege

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Speaker 1: of being born here or what the American dream entailed

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Speaker 1: to me was a lie, was a fallacy the same way.

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Speaker 1: You know again they science is questionable too, But I

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Speaker 1: told y'all it's my trauma from them removing Pluto as

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Speaker 1: a planet. But I want to ask you, as a

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Speaker 1: first generation Ghanaian American, what the American dream looked like?

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Speaker 1: Maybe for your parents because you were born here. Yea,

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Speaker 1: that's first generation. For those of y'all who choose to

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Speaker 1: be ignorant and not know what it means. You are American,

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Speaker 1: but your parents were not born here?

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Speaker 4: Correct?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So what what were their views of the American dream?

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Speaker 2: Because I assume they had one having you born here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they are they are safe. They are it's

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Speaker 5: safe from deportation. They got all the papers. However, I

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Speaker 5: don't know if you did see I did see. Did

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Speaker 5: you see the recent I was gonna say that. I

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Speaker 5: thought it was seven hundred and fifty thives.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it may have been. It's the last time I

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Speaker 4: read it. You may be one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 1: People have had their citizenships revoked, so Cuban, Americans, Venezuela

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Speaker 1: and American like certain countries of course.

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Speaker 2: But he's going through removing city.

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Speaker 1: And ship rights, attempting because the judges are still well

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. The same way he took away those

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Speaker 1: federal jobs and then they was like, wait, nigga, you

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Speaker 1: actually can't do that we're gonna reinstate these things. There

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Speaker 1: may be something that comes down through the pipeline where

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Speaker 1: these citizens who earn their rights to live here get

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Speaker 1: those back.

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Speaker 2: But baby, it's it's tricky waters.

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Speaker 5: And people have been misusing the word deporting, because when

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Speaker 5: you deport someone, you send them to the country that

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Speaker 5: they're originally from. He is missing in these people, not

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Speaker 5: even to the country that they.

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Speaker 2: Wait, oh wait, I missed that. He's just sending them.

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Speaker 4: You didn't say the word you said, Salvador. I believe

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Speaker 4: it is he send them to.

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Speaker 3: Be So some some immigrants, their country is not no

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Speaker 3: longer taking them back. So if you're swaling, you might

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Speaker 3: not be able to go back to mineswaling, so you're

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Speaker 3: gonna pit stop somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: So El Salvador is taking a lot of these immigrants

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Speaker 1: in by choice.

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Speaker 5: Or some are going to Cuba and they putting them

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Speaker 5: in essentially like camps, or would it be an equivalent

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Speaker 5: of karcole communities, like basically incarcerating folks just and these

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Speaker 5: are people who had whether it was temporary stat that is,

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Speaker 5: or they were permanent residents or you know, I haven't

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Speaker 5: read up on it recently.

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Speaker 4: So you know, you might have to fact check a

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Speaker 4: little bit of my selection.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yah, yah, might the fact check if I

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Speaker 1: say a number. Look, luckily we got a stat up

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Speaker 1: there and we'll get into it.

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Speaker 2: But yes, but before we go there, what was what

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Speaker 2: was the dream that your parents had bring like having

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Speaker 2: you here in America?

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Speaker 4: Oh, the main thing was just better life.

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Speaker 5: So my dad was he went to school for divinity,

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Speaker 5: and he has a PhD in philosophy with the focus

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Speaker 5: on divinity. And he went to University of Chicago and

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Speaker 5: sent for my mom a little while later, and they grew.

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Speaker 5: I got two older sisters. We all were born in Chicago.

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Speaker 5: But his whole goal was to come here, go to school,

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Speaker 5: got a scholarship. And the American dream is exactly what

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Speaker 5: we all thought it would be. Right, go to school,

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Speaker 5: get a job, build a foundation, boy some land, and

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Speaker 5: then in America and then eventually go back home, you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe build a house back home, retire, you know, back

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Speaker 4: But where is.

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Speaker 2: He at in that?

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Speaker 6: In that dream, everybody think they're gonna go back, they

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Speaker 6: end up up they spending ten years between visits and

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Speaker 6: all of that, and then before you know, you know,

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Speaker 6: you just end up settling down where you are.

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Speaker 4: And that's what my parents did.

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Speaker 5: That's what most Yeah, you become American and that's what

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Speaker 5: most of my cousins parents did, most of my uncle

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Speaker 5: and aunts.

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Speaker 4: You know, they always have it.

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Speaker 5: And we I mean, we have a house back in Ghana,

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Speaker 5: but you know, the goal is to go back and

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Speaker 5: live there, but you end up building a life here.

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Speaker 5: You don't expect to build a life for several decades

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Speaker 5: in a place and not feel.

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Speaker 4: Like it's home and call it home.

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Speaker 5: And how the American dream has evolved for them is

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Speaker 5: you now you can get saddled with student debt.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're an accountant.

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Speaker 5: You know this, you do, and I know student debt,

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Speaker 5: and you know student debt. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: Thank god I paid mine off.

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Speaker 2: I do not want to, man, but she knocking on

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Speaker 2: my door monthly.

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Speaker 4: Child.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Still, I'll be like, girl, do you even pay that back?

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy?

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Speaker 1: It just dinged my my credit score and I am

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Speaker 1: looking to purchase.

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Speaker 4: A home because of the rules.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, well that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: So during the pandemic and stuff, of course they stopped,

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Speaker 1: they defaulted everything. But if Trump want to remove the

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Speaker 1: Department of Education. I'm hoping it removes these loans.

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Speaker 4: But now you said the SBA woman is going.

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Speaker 2: To be hell no, apparently, Yeah, and that's the crazy

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Speaker 2: thing I pay that Hey, hold on, SBA is getting

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Speaker 2: the bare minimum.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the SBA was at a one percent interest rate.

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Speaker 1: My student loans maybe I've been paying for since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even think I've touched the principle yet, because.

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Speaker 2: That's what they do. They get you on that guy.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know the APR rate, but it's given

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Speaker 1: a new car with bad credit, it got to be

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Speaker 1: at a twenty four percent rate because I don't understand

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Speaker 1: how I haven't even touched the principal.

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Speaker 2: Like I think I'm still.

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Speaker 4: It like we got to pay more than a minimum.

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Speaker 2: Without paying more than well that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe you're getting just the one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty dollars or whatever the.

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Speaker 4: Minimum, whatever the minimum. But you know, here's what's happened.

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Speaker 4: One of my dreams was to pay off mine.

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Speaker 5: I always said that was like, I'm powering my student

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Speaker 5: loans with one check just because I thought I was

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Speaker 5: to do That's a flex and that was a flex

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Speaker 5: and I was able to do it.

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Speaker 4: And my credit score went down.

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Speaker 5: After because I don't like that because you no longer

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Speaker 5: had that monthly charge.

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Speaker 2: Did you.

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Speaker 4: What the American dream is?

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Speaker 3: Because I know we're.

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Speaker 1: Which is crazy that fifty three percent of Americans see

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Speaker 1: Mind you, we're seeing that one bedroom apartments are now

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Speaker 5: Like, y'all you're able to make a quarter bill to

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Speaker 5: But see, here's the whole thing that America sits on.

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Speaker 2: They are you know either I don't know if any

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Speaker 1: Specifically are first generation, but there are also first generation

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Speaker 5: I think that we have America over prioritizes Hollywood and celebrity,

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Speaker 5: because in that blue collar thing that you're talking about

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Speaker 5: He is, and there's somebody out there right now saying

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Speaker 1: And it's crazy because we're not afforded generational wealth or

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Speaker 4: So when you woke, when where.

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Speaker 2: You woke, it's maybe too woke here.

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Speaker 4: It's such a effect now, that's what I mean because

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Speaker 5: the conscious community when actually these are people that are

445
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Speaker 5: trying to teach us knowledge yourself. Now, I'm not saying

446
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Speaker 5: that I'm not championing all the whole taps on the

447
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 5: internet on my head. And now mister Johnson, my brother Johnson.

448
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Speaker 2: I'm I missed with the brother nineteen kids.

449
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I don't know he would call himself a

450
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Speaker 5: hotel because of a bad connotation to it. I tell

451
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Speaker 5: my homegirls just now is I'm trolling him? But I'm

452
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Speaker 5: like your grand rise and quick get the fun. I'm like, yo,

453
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Speaker 5: how do you right?

454
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Speaker 4: Hold you? His name is king sister? You know what,

455
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 4: it's not even it's an affirmation. Come on that. And

456
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to say, this is who I'm trying. I'm

457
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Speaker 4: trying to nigga. Well, Kanye, say what you have to say.

458
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Speaker 4: I am a nigga, and anybody got a problem with that.

459
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Speaker 4: But when I say I'm a god, it's a problem.

460
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Speaker 2: Conversation.

461
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Speaker 4: Okay, go to your original question. Man hate and.

462
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Speaker 1: You know what, And this could be me wanting to

463
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Speaker 1: to continue to be selectively ignorant there, Like I get

464
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Speaker 1: it that they have a purpose.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't get you don't You don't do the grand.

466
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Speaker 4: Rising, not at all?

467
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Speaker 5: I think because I think it's people be we be

468
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Speaker 5: so smart, We're done. Like I think that people people

469
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Speaker 5: are using etymology to say that mourning is like, like

470
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Speaker 5: you know, the study of words, and people talk about

471
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Speaker 5: mourning with m O you are in whatever and mourning like, no,

472
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Speaker 5: we're not mourning, we are happy. And I think those words,

473
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Speaker 5: those words are actually different.

474
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Speaker 4: So literally it ain't even But I want, I want

475
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Speaker 4: to get.

476
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Speaker 5: Back to your original question because I veer too far

477
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Speaker 5: off what you It's okay you said, is it a

478
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 5: myth around using these other people, and so just to

479
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 5: put a button on that, I think that we have

480
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 5: truncted what success looks like and we need to expand it.

481
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: So just like we have now expanded that the.

482
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Speaker 5: Influencer and the internet can make you know, millionaires and

483
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 5: all of that, let's know that HVAC can make millionaires.

484
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 5: Let's know that there are so many there. I got

485
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Speaker 5: a homie who works in corporate America. He makes on

486
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Speaker 5: the lower six figures, but he's got so many investments

487
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Speaker 5: and live so frugally that his net worth is and

488
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Speaker 5: he's given me investment strategies right, And a lot of

489
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Speaker 5: my money doesn't come from what I make salary. Why i'

490
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Speaker 5: so different than what my investments are. And I learned

491
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Speaker 5: it from somebody whose salary is lower than my.

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Speaker 1: Mouth, So I was gonna say, that's also another element

493
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Speaker 1: of where the American dream. When I grew up, it

494
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Speaker 1: was never taught to me markets investments. The only investment

495
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Speaker 1: was was at one point a home and then you

496
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Speaker 1: have your four oh one K social Security and retirement funds,

497
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Speaker 1: like those were the only things that as a millennial

498
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Speaker 1: I was taught again coming from Florida, coming from a

499
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Speaker 1: low income, middle class family, those were the only investments.

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Speaker 2: So for me, and also working multiple jobs. My mom

501
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Speaker 2: worked multiple jobs.

502
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Speaker 1: My dad, like everyone in my family, barely made it

503
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Speaker 1: with multiple jobs, so you always had to have multiple

504
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Speaker 1: streams of income. But what you're saying in terms of

505
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Speaker 1: even having someone talk to you about where to invest

506
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Speaker 1: your money, that part of it was never part of

507
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Speaker 1: the American dream. But also maybe because while I was

508
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Speaker 1: in high school, eight is when the.

509
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Speaker 2: Huge market crash took place.

510
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Speaker 1: And so again I think leaving high school, graduating in

511
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine formed me to almost immediately be like,

512
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Speaker 1: what the fuck is next? Like the market crash happened,

513
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Speaker 1: gas was at the its highest. Everything we thought couldn't

514
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Speaker 1: happen right, and eight we got a black president.

515
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Speaker 2: Everything that I had thought to be just this.

516
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Speaker 1: World I lived in and how to go about doing

517
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Speaker 1: everything almost seem to And I hate to blame us

518
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Speaker 1: having a black president because I'm not, but everything that

519
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: I thought existed as the world we lived in seemed

520
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: to immediately shift as soon as I got out of school, right,

521
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Speaker 1: So all of these people who lost their jobs caused

522
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Speaker 1: the unemployment rate to skyrocket. Multiple people lost their homes

523
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Speaker 1: because they had their money within the markets, and the

524
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Speaker 1: housing bubble happened, and so to me, maybe it's why

525
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Speaker 1: it took me seven years to even go back to school,

526
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Speaker 1: because I was like, well, what the fuck do I do?

527
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Speaker 1: I think the pandemic brought me back to that too,

528
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Speaker 1: where I essentially don't view a world of planning or

529
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: goal setting because at any given moment, we could have

530
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Speaker 1: the fucking president remove the entire Department of Education, and

531
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Speaker 1: now that means nothing. At any given point, I could

532
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Speaker 1: sit here and beyond the routes to feel like I

533
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Speaker 1: can be in control of my body, and they reverse

534
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Speaker 1: Roe v.

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Speaker 2: Wade.

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Speaker 1: So it's why y'all may listen to me and I

537
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: have these outlandish opinions, but when I sit here and

538
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: look at in a blink of an eye, my goals,

539
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: what I thought the world was, what I thought life was,

540
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Speaker 1: where I thought my life would be five or ten

541
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Speaker 1: or fifteen years from now. Because we're told to plan right,

542
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Speaker 1: none of it matters. None of it matters. And it

543
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Speaker 1: reminds me of like when you go on dates and

544
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Speaker 1: you're supposed to ask someone what their five year plan

545
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Speaker 1: is and things like that. That is one one question

546
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Speaker 1: now because of the eight market crash, because of how

547
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Speaker 1: I busted my ass through college, and now I'm working

548
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: without my degree because of the pandemic.

549
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Speaker 2: Bitch, I'll just be existing.

550
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Speaker 1: I literally even had a conversation with my boyfriend where

551
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Speaker 1: I was like, well, this, don't do this.

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Speaker 4: Here you go, you're saying years ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean in terms of even right, what we envision

554
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Speaker 1: a life with a partner supposed to be again, Yeah,

555
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Speaker 1: you date, you get engaged, get married, you have the kids.

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Speaker 1: You I think that even now, that element of the

557
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: American dream has fell upon me to where I'm like,

558
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Speaker 1: I've seen so many public divorces, divorce rates are at

559
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Speaker 1: an all time high that it's just.

560
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Speaker 4: Like, oh, it's you.

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Speaker 5: You bring up a good thing, because I think that,

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Speaker 5: you know, we talked about the American dream terms of money, capitalism,

563
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Speaker 5: and economics, but how relationship people. I put it off

564
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 5: starting families. They were just yeah, I wonder, I wish

565
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Speaker 5: I it was either New York or New York magazine.

566
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Speaker 5: I weard a couple of months ago that were talking about,

567
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Speaker 5: you know, the implications of millennial starting families later later.

568
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 5: What does it mean we can't for we're not able

569
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Speaker 5: to afford houses as early as we used to. What

570
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Speaker 5: does it mean that was starting families later? What will

571
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 5: it look like? Because social security is reaching this captain

572
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 5: paying into it, it ain't gonna see it.

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Speaker 4: So what about the generation after us? All right? So

574
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Speaker 4: what do all of these different things mean?

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Speaker 5: But one thing that's somewhat of a I don't know

576
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 5: if it's a silver lining, because there's a risk and

577
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Speaker 5: looking at somebody like weaning as bad as them, and

578
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 5: that's like toxic. But one thing that I think we

579
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 5: should remember in America as difficult at all as it is,

580
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Speaker 5: poverty in America looks a lot different than it does

581
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Speaker 5: elsewhere in the world. Yes, and you still have you know,

582
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Speaker 5: God bless their hearts, all of these you know, immigrant

583
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 5: migrants and people fleeing real turmoil, whether it's war overseas,

584
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Speaker 5: whether it's gang wars, whether it's just general depredation and

585
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 5: the lack of a high GDP in a country that

586
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 5: coming from poverty here looks totally different from poverty anywhere else.

587
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 5: And a motherfucker come out of school and be damned

588
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 5: and depressed because they can't get a job. And I

589
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 5: go to Ghana and I'll see somebody with less happier

590
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 5: than most of the people I know.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I wanted to say, talk to me.

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00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: I think that that's another lie that we were fed.

593
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: I think that even still positioning the experience of living

594
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Speaker 1: in the US above all these other countries is a false,

595
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: brainwashed narrative that we have only because we do have

596
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: gang violence, we do have wars literally in our backyard,

597
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: with the police, the people who are supposed to protect us,

598
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: with the government, between sexes, between races like even it's

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00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: interesting now because on decisions decisions we talk about a

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Speaker 1: non traditional way of living. We've also been I don't

601
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: want to use the word brainwash, but brainwashed into this

602
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: Western idea of monogamy that has hindered what a village

603
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: actually looks like, which now we're talking about non monogamy

604
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: that exists in all so many other countries because it's

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Speaker 1: about building a village. It's about being able to afford

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Speaker 1: housing and raising children with a village, because you may

607
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Speaker 1: live in poverty like in a lot of those townships

608
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Speaker 1: and communities, there's multiple men and women and children in

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Speaker 1: the household, and they've been able to exist in that

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Speaker 1: way because this is what we have to do to

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Speaker 1: survive here. No monogamy is what's viewed as right, and

612
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: so every other way of living is viewed wrong, which

613
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Speaker 1: is confusing considering. That's why people will have roommates, that's

614
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Speaker 1: why a lot of people are getting into these polyamics

615
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Speaker 1: relationships or moving in with partners that they're not ready

616
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Speaker 1: to be with because they literally cannot afford to pay

617
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: rent by themselves. So we literally live in these I

618
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: don't want to call us third world because that would

619
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Speaker 1: be a slight to real third world countries. But America

620
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: is actually not as great in pristine and advanced as

621
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Speaker 1: we are taught to believe.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and because I agree with that, and.

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Speaker 5: There's a reality that what the poverty line looks like

624
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Speaker 5: in other countries, and so I'm not saying that the

625
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Speaker 5: median you know, upper middle class person in every country

626
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Speaker 5: is it's that it's it's better to.

627
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Speaker 4: Be an American than these other places.

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Speaker 5: Just like I said, you know, we can take our

629
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Speaker 5: resources as immigrants here make mad bread and how money

630
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 5: goes further. It's like ten to one when you go

631
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Speaker 5: to certain countries. But what I'm also saying is there

632
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 5: isn't possible water in certain communities. This Shorty's got to

633
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Speaker 5: go to another villa. I mean, we there organizations that

634
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 5: do work that we do behind the scenes about drill

635
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 5: and borhos and certain communities where they have to walk

636
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 5: walk walk walk walk just to get water to drink,

637
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Speaker 5: and the bathe and do all these different things. Like

638
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 5: it's much realer than even living in California where we

639
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 5: have a crazy homelessness or on house crisis.

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Speaker 3: But can I also can I also say, because but

641
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Speaker 3: Alabama's not that different than that, you know what.

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00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: I mean, like Mississippi examples.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I want to ask you all this because

644
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Speaker 3: both of the other are saying something about this idea of

645
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: what we've been told or not or the myth or not.

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00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: So again with this idea of the American dream hard

647
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: work and determination, right, and so who still believes it,

648
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: according to the study higher earning americans over fifty, right.

649
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: And so my question to y'all is, I think there's

650
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: this idea that hard work probably used to do that, right,

651
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: and there were blue collar jobs and owning your own

652
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: plumbing shop, and so somehow that myth got reconstructed to

653
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 3: this idea of education. And you have people doing like

654
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: a philosophy degree that they can't use it now, right,

655
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: And so I'm wondering, are these higher earning Americans over

656
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: fifty It feels like to me, once they got their lick,

657
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 3: they turned around and they pulled the ladder right. And

658
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: so now when we're talking about younger people having to

659
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: reimagine the American dream, it's because the older people re

660
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: engineered it ahead of them, and so now they have

661
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 3: no choice.

662
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Speaker 1: I don't think they re engineered it as much as oh,

663
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Speaker 1: this is gonna sound I just I just the way

664
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: my brain works.

665
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: Shut up, Shut up.

666
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: I think that the hard work and determination aspect of

667
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: the American dream is gone. I think the entitlement now

668
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: is more prevalent than anything. And I think also because

669
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: of the economy we're in. People aren't willing to even

670
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: do the unpaid internships. People aren't willing to actually do

671
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: the work that even I think the millennial was the

672
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: last generation that actually even had to experience that. I've

673
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: owned my business, I've had people come in with no skills,

674
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: still wanting to be paid twenty to twenty five dollars

675
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: an hour, not knowing what they're doing. You want me

676
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: to pay you to learn?

677
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: Unwilling or unable.

678
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: So I'm not in the case of you, because I'm

679
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 5: sure that you know that's a whole differ situation. But

680
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: there are a lot of unpaid internships price a lot

681
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 5: of people out of out of jobs. Yeah, complete, because

682
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 5: I literally take care of mad people in my house,

683
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 5: so I cannot afford to be anywhere else for eight

684
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 5: hours a day and not make money. But the sun

685
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 5: of said CEO can do that unpaid internship because the

686
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 5: rest of his life is financed.

687
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: Okay, you got me. Because I don't consider always that

688
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: element of it. I mean again, I was deciding between

689
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: toilet paper and food at a point. That's why I

690
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: still got student loans, because to me, it was I

691
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: need to take out these loans, so I'm able to

692
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: do that. I mean, I think there's a lot of

693
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: risk in doing it, but I think that it's necessary

694
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: and needed and to know that also there is the

695
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: ability to make money in ways that we didn't have

696
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: the opportunity to so making money by using by being

697
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: on the internet.

698
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: There's still also a lot of remote.

699
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 4: Don't do that. Don't do that, you know what I mean.

700
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: But I think that. But I think that's some of

701
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: the things that the new or like for a millennial,

702
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: none of us grew up they want to be.

703
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 4: Right.

704
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: It's like using the internet to do feed pictures, right,

705
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: or using a bandwidth to do like I'm going to

706
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: be a YouTuber right, Like yeah, in that and so

707
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 3: I think now that's kind of people trying to determine,

708
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: like that's hard work, right because again to your point

709
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: of like the bus driver conversation, right, like you could

710
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: be a truck driver and you own your truck business

711
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: and your fleet the trucks, and you make three hundred thousand,

712
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: but somebody may still look down on you because this

713
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: person has an accounting degree and they're a call at

714
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 3: the H and R block and they make one hundred thousand.

715
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, i'll be honest with you, there was definitely

716
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: an element of I don't it's not the word privilege,

717
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: but I definitely once I obtained my degrees, I felt

718
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: better than yeah, and I'm just gonna admit that because

719
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: what I do is.

720
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: Admit the shit that y'all won't.

721
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: But is that another like step towards the ladder of it?

722
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: But to me it was like, as am I you.

723
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm a first generation college graduate, and so to me

724
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: it was praised by my family to do so. It

725
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: was something that was deemed as, oh, you're on your

726
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: way to being again. I don't want to say better

727
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: than or whatever, but to finish a degree came with

728
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: some bragging rights, came with something, I'll be honest.

729
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: Now again, they're just on my shelf.

730
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: There's no really bragging rights in having a degree because

731
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on debt that someone that's probably making more

732
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: money than me with no degree.

733
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: Has, you know what I mean?

734
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: It used to mean that I would be o to

735
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: higher paying job when I have a lot of friends

736
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: right now that are looking for jobs right It is

737
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: factual that it takes six weeks for a non graduate

738
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: to get a job and over three months, over double

739
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: the time for someone with a degree to get a job,

740
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: because of course your standards are going to be higher.

741
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: You're probably going to demand more pay because you have

742
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: that degree, and the companies just aren't willing to pay it.

743
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: So someone now currently without a degree will get a

744
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: job before someone with a degree. That used to not

745
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: be the case unless you were working fast food, retail,

746
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: all of those level jobs. The fact that now you

747
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: could go to corporate, they've almost made the bachelor's degree

748
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: and associates.

749
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 4: Well.

750
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: I think the other thing too, is we we got

751
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 5: fed us with no context. It was it was always

752
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 5: get a degree. It wasn't saying it was a basket weaven.

753
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: You also drink your milk to make your bone strong.

754
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: They us the nigga.

755
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm America, America's one advertising scam. No, no, no, yes,

756
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 3: it's advertising.

757
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: I also thought the eggs were a part of the

758
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: dairy category until recently.

759
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Ghetto, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't you Africa.

760
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: Don't bring your African knowledge over.

761
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 4: No, No, I was gonna say the opposite. I was

762
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: today years old.

763
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: You didn't know eggs weren't dairy because they put it

764
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: in that dumb ass people.

765
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: They brainwashed this bro. The only thing that the only

766
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: thing that they got right was fucking tobacco and that

767
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: then that did the woman.

768
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: But that's that's only because that's a lawsuit. They had

769
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: to do that.

770
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: You ready, no, no, you ready? And then they just

771
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: rebranded it's a hookah.

772
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

773
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 5: Bit.

774
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: Literally the tobacco industry, the tobacco industry only had to

775
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: tell the truth when it was a huge lawsuit that

776
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: created the truth campaign that it's not even new tobacco.

777
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: They only did that because they got sued into having

778
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: to tell the truth. Otherwise, to your point, did they

779
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: lie to us?

780
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: But which is insane because so many millennials do not

781
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: smoke cigarettes. It's not a thing I don't be out

782
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: of people that's an older generation. However, guess what they

783
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: can't live without these goddamn bake.

784
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: Pins and hookahs. Same thing just rebranded.

785
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: And so it's literally this idea of an American dream, right,

786
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: we know we have the two percenters that are pulling

787
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: those ladders up that really don't want us to reach there.

788
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: And then unfortunately, within our own communities as we grow,

789
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: we don't believe that there's enough for everybody?

790
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: So what do we do? So how do we reimagine

791
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: what the new version of.

792
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: Am I want to know what an American dream looks

793
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: like for you, for me.

794
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: As someone with a degree, as someone whose first generation,

795
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: as someone who's now kind of navigating his own his

796
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: own businesses while also still being in.

797
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: Corporate, having moved away from the family you come from. Right,

798
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: your roots are in Chicago, and you're not.

799
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: A doctor, you're not a scientist, you're not a lawyer.

800
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: So then what does the American dream as a thirty

801
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: five year old black, first generation male look like?

802
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: It's not enough, no matter, no matter what you're doing,

803
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: is not enough.

804
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 5: You can say, I was just having this conversation with

805
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 5: somebody brou You could do something and be so proud

806
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 5: of yourself.

807
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 4: Right, you got a number in your mind. You could

808
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: buy a house. You could do this, and then somebody's

809
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 4: gonna say, yeah, we just moved the gold close.

810
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 5: It's not enough, This ain't good enough, This ain't good enough,

811
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 5: this ain't So you have to decide in yourself.

812
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 4: That's why I made the point earlier about contentment.

813
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 5: So for me, the American dream in a country of excess,

814
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: the American dream for me is contentment, happiness, reimagining family

815
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 5: the way I wanted to be peace.

816
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 4: I don't peace.

817
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 5: I don't need to check a box and get married

818
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: by this point, have a child by this point, by

819
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: a home at this point. Living in New York City

820
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: helped me to reframe my thinking abound a lot of things.

821
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: The privilege of New York. The privilege is the gift

822
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: that keeps giving.

823
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: Then it retrains what you think of about when your

824
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: time last.

825
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 5: Because buy property in New York, Yeah, come on right, yeah,

826
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 5: million dollar condo box Like, I'm not doing it. And

827
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 5: then you know I'm not ready to move to Jersey,

828
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 5: and so you start to think, okay, so my first

829
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 5: home is going to be an investment property in the

830
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 5: city that I come up.

831
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 4: You can play different.

832
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: You push back when you want to have children metropolitan

833
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: city with yeah.

834
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 5: So you have to reframe what this happening has looked like.

835
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 5: And now you have to change the title around what

836
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: happiness looks like? Do you really want going back to

837
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 5: the jobs?

838
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 4: Right?

839
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 5: Do you want to make the dollar amount build a

840
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 5: home and be happy or do you want to do it?

841
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 5: And does it only mean something if you are doctor

842
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 5: so and so. If you are doctor UPONO doing these things, you.

843
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: Know what's crazy about you saying that? Or does it

844
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: only mean something when you can show up in a

845
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: room and say you.

846
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: Have these things.

847
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: That's a thing that I battled with, and it's either

848
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: a past episode or upcoming episode. I sat with Ish

849
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: and I was talking about purchasing a home, and I

850
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: felt like, because I made a certain I'm within a

851
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: certain tax bracket, then now fuck, everyone's telling me I

852
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: need to buy a home.

853
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: And I almost felt the pressure to buy a home.

854
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: But is it like, do I only want to be

855
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: a homeowner to say I'm a homeowner because it comes

856
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: with a lot of response, because it comes with.

857
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: A lot of responsibility. Right.

858
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: However, I am in a place where I'm like, wait, nigga,

859
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: that house that was two hundred thy and twenty twenty

860
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: is now faux fifty and I could be sitting on

861
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: that equity and make the money. Like, Okay, I'm thinking

862
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: from a different landscape too. But also I'm like, am

863
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: I pressured? And I think, to me as a woman,

864
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: those pressures of the American dream look a lot different

865
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: because it's the pressure of why I don't have a

866
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: ring on my finger, why I don't have kids. Me

867
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: being a successful person wasn't ever a part of the

868
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: American dream as a woman.

869
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: Let's be very clear too, there was two roads.

870
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: But most American dreams for women were to get a husband,

871
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: have kids, be a stay at home mom, raise a family,

872
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: help build up your husband, help be that person to

873
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: drive them.

874
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: That was never it.

875
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: But also because I think you and I are a

876
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: product not by our parents, but within the crack epidemic

877
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: where we were raised within single parent households. Maybe not you,

878
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: but I was, and a lot of my peers were

879
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: to where that also shifted what the American dream ascle

880
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: looked like from maybe what you thought it was from

881
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: growing up in the sixties and seventies to then what

882
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: it looked like growing up in the nineties.

883
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 5: Yes, And what we don't talk off enough about too

884
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 5: is how much environment plays apart. Because you can have

885
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 5: a two parent household within the context of ninety percent

886
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 5: of your friends and everybody around you has a different experience.

887
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: Yep.

888
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 5: And so there were books in my house that were

889
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 5: conversations about all of that. But when I went outside,

890
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 5: you know, it was a whole different. I had some

891
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 5: challenges that a lot of folks who immigrated here in

892
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: different neighborhoods didn't have, Like.

893
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 4: What just street shit.

894
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 5: Okay, you know what I'm saying is being growing up

895
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 5: on the South Side Chicago and hanging with these this

896
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 5: group and you don't see it as being involved in

897
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 5: a gang or being involved with this, and that these

898
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 5: are your friends. This is who you're with, right, So

899
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 5: we want to look at ourselves and say, my family

900
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: is fine. Forget the neighborhood, forget everybody else. Nah, your

901
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 5: kids are gonna grow up around these people and these

902
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,959
Speaker 5: this community. If you're not helping this community, it's gonna

903
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: bleed onto your household. So it is on us to

904
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 5: make sure that the whole collective is straight. Because I

905
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 5: don't care how rich you are. I'm telling you, I

906
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 5: don't care how rich you are. All the celebrities we named,

907
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 5: they still got poor cousins. And them cousins are still

908
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 5: in community with us in some way, whether culturally, even

909
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 5: if not in actual proximity.

910
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 4: And that's why you have who is the.

911
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 5: Rap of the ball, who's on stage with singing yealow.

912
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 5: That's why you got Jealo Ball talking about you hang

913
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 5: with the real killers and hustlers, and that he from Gino,

914
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 5: that's not even his experience. But our popular culture kind

915
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 5: of deifies poverty and deified struggle and puts it on

916
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 5: a pedestal to where you want to relate to that.

917
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 5: And if we as a collective reimagine what the American

918
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 5: dream looks like for Black America, then you have people

919
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 5: who even are out of their socioeconomic tax bracket. Reverting

920
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 5: back to chase cultural cooling, Yes.

921
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: And no, I want to shake the table. Can I

922
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: shake the table a little bit?

923
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 4: But do you follow what I'm saying?

924
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: I do?

925
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: And now I'm shaking the table from another perspective because

926
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: where we all have this quote unquote American dream to

927
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: even make it out within our own community, there also

928
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: seems to be a huge sense of envy for those

929
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: who make it out. So although we strive to climb

930
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: ourselves out, it doesn't.

931
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: Also seem like within us that we.

932
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: Praise those who are able to make it out, because

933
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: we also say they left us.

934
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 2: People want to keep them there.

935
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: They don't like when someone has made it out, the projects,

936
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: has made it out, the hood has made it out

937
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, once we leave, a.

938
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: Lot of us don't come back.

939
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 4: We don't.

940
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: We don't pour back into the community.

941
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 5: But you can send resources back without physically being there.

942
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 5: I can throw you a ladder. I ain't gotta be

943
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 5: over there and holding it for you. But I can

944
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 5: go back like we do it. I work with communities

945
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 5: that do it.

946
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 4: Like.

947
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 5: You can give back without I don't need to walk

948
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 5: up and down Inglewood physically with my jewelry on to

949
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 5: prove that I'm in the see what.

950
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: Happens there from from dog to Nipsy and everything.

951
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 4: Else, like and now Walker his homie man.

952
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so like, there are ways to give back,

953
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 5: and Derek Rose does it very well in Chicago.

954
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does.

955
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: Of the something is it books and roses or something?

956
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: He just opened It wasn't a bookstore about the flowers,

957
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: the flowers, the flowers, which makes so much sense him

958
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: even just creating jobs within his community with by opening businesses.

959
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: I think that's incredible.

960
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: And irock, he's doing something with chess too. He's a

961
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: lover of chess as well, or so he.

962
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: Really you need to see that absolutely.

963
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So producer Jason, where are we going from here.

964
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: Are we gonna do?

965
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: Guess who?

966
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: I love this.

967
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: So we have a segment where normally we like to

968
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: pull up like hypocritical tweets sometimes from our guests.

969
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: You well, well, no, no, no. But because because you work for.

970
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: M TV, I'm sure they've had you clear out your

971
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: tweets the same way they did mine.

972
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 4: I don't know they didn't.

973
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: Oh it's because you're safe. I am not.

974
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: I spent two hours my tweet.

975
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: No, they sent me twenty seven pages damn tweets.

976
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: Oh they they didn't run my Twitter dig Now I

977
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 4: came back clean.

978
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 5: Dynastics. You're gonna say dynastics. Yeah, when he just ran

979
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 5: to do like some computerized.

980
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: The AI will will plug get certain words, and you

981
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: know what messed me up? Actually, Drea had a swim

982
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: suit line at one point called fine Ass Girls.

983
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: But then with the acronym yeah.

984
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: Baby, they said delete all. They said delete all and

985
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: then and then and then. It used to be a

986
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: compliment for my friends. I'd be like, like, if a

987
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: friend was fine, I'd be like, damn.

988
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: I molest you.

989
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: That is no longer something you say. Like, there were

990
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: so many there were so many sweets, like.

991
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: In a diagnostic run Mandy got twenty seven pages.

992
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 4: Twenty seven pages, that's insane. Got none.

993
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: I just want to say that through the cross talk,

994
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: if if anybody didn't peat that.

995
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: You know what. I gotta be honest. It was a

996
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 4: little bit of cat when I was considering the job.

997
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: I did. Okay, I use this, I did it. I

998
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 4: was like letting me go.

999
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: So look how lovely it is that twenty seven pages

1000
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: and none could sit here and.

1001
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: Have a conversation, see and agree to disagree, or just

1002
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: come together.

1003
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: With address addressing some discourse. You tell me, Okay, So Jason,

1004
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: Jason is about to damn.

1005
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: I forgot to highlight some of them.

1006
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, I know.

1007
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: So we got this thing called guests who, and we've

1008
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: been talking about the American Dream, and so I'm gonna

1009
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: read some quotes about different people who've spoken about the

1010
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: American Dream.

1011
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: The only that we have are there.

1012
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: It is not whether they're white, black, rich, poor, but

1013
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: these are people that you would know, and these are

1014
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: some of the thoughts that they've had on the American Dream.

1015
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: Our job is to guess who said.

1016
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: Try and guess them. So I've highlighted three depending how

1017
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: fun we have let's three. So we've deluded ourselves into

1018
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: believing the myth that capitalism grew and prospered out of

1019
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: the Protestant ethic of hard work and sacrifices. That's what

1020
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: this person said about the American Dream.

1021
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: Now the initials are MK. So I'm just gonna go

1022
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: with Martin Luther King because I don't know another m K.

1023
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: But also, this sounds like someone speaking from the sixties,

1024
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: but it's.

1025
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 5: Missing the al I can't even I can't even see.

1026
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 5: Too easy to put that.

1027
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: It is easy.

1028
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: It's too easy for him, is that he always talked

1029
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 5: about Protestants and his speeches even that that's a church

1030
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 5: that I.

1031
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: Picked this one because he was talking about capitalism to

1032
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: tie back into what you were saying, because it's a

1033
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: conversation that's been happening for a long time about the

1034
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 3: idea of capitalism torpedoing the American.

1035
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: That made me feel good.

1036
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 3: Accident that kind of like, So here's another one, because

1037
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: I was about to say some random Twitter users, so

1038
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: here's this one. I am the epitome of what the

1039
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: American Dream basically said. It said, you come from anywhere

1040
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 3: and be anything you want in this country.

1041
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: Initials so that you guys can play along. Is W

1042
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: G Warren g the American Dream? I would assume that

1043
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: this is someone.

1044
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: It isn't entertainer. I'll say that.

1045
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 2: Because you sadn't want to came from another country?

1046
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: You know what?

1047
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 5: To me? Off though, because the G is what? Because

1048
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: for some reason I read this and Will Smith voice

1049
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 5: of what the Dream, and I'm like that you sounded

1050
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 5: like it would.

1051
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 4: Have been who it is? You gotta do it. We're

1052
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 4: doing what's first?

1053
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 5: Off?

1054
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: What that gun is from fucking Buffalo? Can we not

1055
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: sit here and make it seem like he came from

1056
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: another country?

1057
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 4: Is Buffalo not another?

1058
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's basically Buffalo got a wild drug problem

1059
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: right now?

1060
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: Joke?

1061
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, only because I want to hear him do

1062
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: this voice who said this?

1063
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: This is also to when I say, I don't want

1064
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: you to know what your what y'all think? If you

1065
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 3: think that you feel agreed with this person, it's a

1066
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: whoopy Goldberg. Oh she said she's the epitome.

1067
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: It's not like that really, Okay, I just my mind

1068
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: went super problem and I'm not gonna say what I

1069
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: just said.

1070
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 3: I was surprised by how patriotic it made her okay,

1071
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 3: And do you know.

1072
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: Why, maybe I wouldn't.

1073
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have guessed, well, she's kind of is she?

1074
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: She's not even Magga Jason is she?

1075
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, you know why she's so Actually

1076
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 5: she is one of those people that actually didn't like

1077
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 5: the term African American because she's like, I'm just American.

1078
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: Why do I need a hyphenated so you know, I'm neutral,

1079
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 4: and you.

1080
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: Know what, I want to say that it makes sense

1081
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: of her being the epitome of American dream because she

1082
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: had to work hard, because she had no privilege as

1083
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: a dark skinned black woman, as a not so attractive woman,

1084
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: as everything that.

1085
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I know I didn't have to.

1086
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: Say that I was gonna let her fly, but we

1087
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: still acknowledge whether she she got you know, she'd be outside.

1088
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 5: I'm not on front and and I'm not saying it's

1089
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 5: just because just because we PI whatever the cameras in here.

1090
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 5: I looked at an old picture of Whoopy Go Bird

1091
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 5: in the nineties hairshot, and I said.

1092
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: I'd like to see it.

1093
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 4: No, I'm afind that.

1094
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 5: I genuinely was like, I can't believe they convinced us

1095
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 5: this woman was unattractive. Now I like the words, even

1096
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 5: though this sounds real conventionally unattractive.

1097
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 4: I like that.

1098
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: Come on, that's that is a.

1099
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: Cigarette.

1100
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: Let this champ geddy over.

1101
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: Something like that, bro, that is not with a cigarette

1102
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 3: in the hand. Look at that.

1103
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: Let me say another picture.

1104
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 4: Look but she left them.

1105
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 5: Tell also to the role she played that she she

1106
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 5: she knows how to.

1107
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 4: Like what she would have hat she don't look like this.

1108
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me see another picture.

1109
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 5: And she's older, but I saw something.

1110
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 4: Why y'all only because we were making a point. You're

1111
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 4: showing her young like all of these. This is a

1112
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 4: beautiful woman. Man.

1113
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 5: Let me say, go up again the stereotypes that the

1114
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 5: others portray on us and say that she wasn't a

1115
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 5: good looking woman.

1116
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we're not gonna not.

1117
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 5: That's why that's why I like the term even That's

1118
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 5: why I love the term unconventionally attractive, because it says that.

1119
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: No, because as men ain't nothing, I ain't never heard

1120
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: no one being my whole life be like now, whoopy,

1121
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: I'll test.

1122
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 5: That's because we were taught not to even look at

1123
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 5: fine Darskian woe unless it was like Gabrielle Union or

1124
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 5: somebody like out the least, have.

1125
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: Your own goddamn opinion. This is what I'll be talking about,

1126
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: y'all with selective ignorance.

1127
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 4: Y'all.

1128
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: Don't let the motherfucker world tell y'all.

1129
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 4: Who can't exactly I'm saying.

1130
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard nobody say I want to be

1131
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: in whoopy over.

1132
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 5: No, I got I got you. But I think a

1133
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 5: lot of people I think group think is a thing.

1134
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 4: We know group think is a thing.

1135
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 2: No group think, which is why the Internet hates me.

1136
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: Because I don't really think my nigga I was.

1137
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 5: People were calling me African booty scratches and not messing

1138
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 5: with Darskian dudes when they were younger.

1139
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: That's that's a classic one.

1140
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I'm attractive.

1141
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy about that too? So growing up

1142
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: in we knew.

1143
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: You had dreads, but that was actually the same thing

1144
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: that I experienced, believe it or not.

1145
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: Growing up in Florida, nobody is actually African American.

1146
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: Everyone, especially in my schools, were first generation normally Haitian Jamaican.

1147
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 5: Uh.

1148
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: Even if you were Latina, you were Cuban, Dominican, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Colombian,

1149
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: like everyone was from another country essentially. And I remember

1150
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: when I first told people my dad was Jamaican. Oh,

1151
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: I got made fun of or they automatically assumed he

1152
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: had dreads, smoked weed and African booty s Crasher was

1153
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: still the same thing applied even to Jamaica's back then.

1154
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: You want to know when it changed.

1155
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 4: Fucking Shunnedapau.

1156
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: Being Jamaican wasn't even a cool thing to be until

1157
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: it became mainstream and pop culture group.

1158
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 5: But look at Haitians. A lot of Haitians weren't, probably

1159
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 5: because they will always say it was Jamaican because of

1160
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 5: that stack.

1161
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 2: They were at one point came out and then came out.

1162
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: You're actually right, at one point.

1163
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: A lot of Haitians, even growing up, they aligned or

1164
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: said that they were Jamaican just because Haitians had a

1165
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: negative sigma around them.

1166
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: And if it was non Caribbean, you wouldn't.

1167
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 2: Know, you wouldn't know, you wouldn't know.

1168
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: And I think that that's the thing that you only

1169
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: experience if you're from like a melting pot like either

1170
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: New York like a Brooklyn.

1171
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 2: Or an Orlando, Florida, a Miami.

1172
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: Like knowing how you actually viewed different, which is why

1173
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: we have all of these breakaways into our own black community,

1174
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: because we all viewed each other as something different.

1175
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 5: Essentially before we could see with guests, who real quick

1176
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 5: last thing you said earlier, I never heard nobody sound

1177
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 5: want to bend over whoopie. I just want to say,

1178
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 5: this was bringing this back is crazy. It was just

1179
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 5: one last thought, one last thought. Look at these niggas

1180
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 5: baby mamas like we have Wow.

1181
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 4: We being an unrealistic view when you right what you ask.

1182
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: The men that I'm saying said that or never said that.

1183
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: Probably couldn't breathe whoopies farts?

1184
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: Okay, Whoopy wouldn't pay him? No, never mind, let's be very.

1185
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 4: We get real judgmental. Were looking at scroller Instagram.

1186
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: Guys, Whoopy is the prize? Okay, Whoopy would be the prize.

1187
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 4: Not you.

1188
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 5: She said that her preference is for casual encounters and

1189
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 5: lack of focus on long term commitment. She's also been

1190
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 5: married three times, so she's been outside. I love that somebody.

1191
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 2: I love that he don't come for me. You don't

1192
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: call me unconventionally pretty or not pretty. I don't know

1193
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 2: what the hell I said, let's do.

1194
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 3: Our last one more, all right, So ready this one,

1195
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 3: y'all never gonna give this one. It's PD, But it's

1196
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 3: not that p D. I am living proof that the

1197
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 3: American dreams still exist. It is still alive. And well,

1198
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: there's only one trick. You have to be willing to

1199
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 3: roll up your sleeves and work very, very hard.

1200
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: I thought that was me, p D, someone who is

1201
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: living proof of the American dream and believes that the

1202
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: only trick is to roll up your sleeves and get

1203
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: to work.

1204
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: I actually thought this.

1205
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: Was gonna be kim Ka because she even said, all

1206
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: you gotta do is get you guys don't work hard enough.

1207
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: Pete Davison, oh you gotta pick right right.

1208
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: So this is or you guess it to. Pete Davison

1209
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: is a good one. And I was about to say

1210
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: he unconventionally pretty too.

1211
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: He had to work hard he is he is, but

1212
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: he even he done bagged him all privileged in his pants.

1213
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 4: That's a bonus episode.

1214
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: Bonus episode. I don't know this one.

1215
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 5: I still want to at least put up a guest.

1216
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 5: I don't want to take too long thinking American streams.

1217
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 4: Still, it's a woman.

1218
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: It is a woman, Okay, Okay, Pauladine.

1219
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 3: Hmmm, Mandy DeSantis got that way, say that, say that.

1220
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: Why do y'all do this to me just because I

1221
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: know a woman with some elbow meat, cooking some collars.

1222
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, But Pauladine Southerner, a food entrepreneur, food big controversy,

1223
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 3: like fifteen years ago. Let's let it known that she

1224
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 3: lets the N wordfly left and right.

1225
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: She does.

1226
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: That's why you want don't do that because I don't.

1227
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't buy any of her cookbooks.

1228
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 4: I don't want her message.

1229
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: Don't do that, but both in her belief that all

1230
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 3: you have to do is roll up your sleeves and

1231
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: work hard. She believes in the dream, right, I mean,

1232
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: she got generations generation and I think, but she.

1233
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: Is a white woman from the South, cooking like working

1234
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 1: hard hard for her is so different from everyone else,

1235
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: from her, from even from her era.

1236
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1237
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: Who?

1238
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: So I do want to ask you the now, what

1239
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: do you from this conversation? Clearly you don't believe in

1240
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: the American dream for people who I like to leave

1241
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: off with something for anyone who's listening and believing. You

1242
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: motherfuckers if I work hard, I can achieve anything. Do

1243
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: you have anything to say to maybe those people who

1244
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: struggle or do believe in what the American dream looks like?

1245
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 4: Like?

1246
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: Where would you leave off with someone you feel?

1247
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: Me?

1248
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 5: Well, working hard is the baseline, right, So okay, working

1249
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 5: hard and hustling, rolling up your sleeves, being willing, if

1250
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 5: you can to take the unpaid internship, making whatever arrangements

1251
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 5: you can to sacrifice, that is all us constant. That

1252
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 5: just has to happen. That doesn't mean you're gonna achieve

1253
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 5: your dream of nothing like that, but that just has

1254
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 5: to happen. So if that isn't happening, you definitely want

1255
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 5: won't Okay, But the next level beyond that is define

1256
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 5: success for yourself, and you don't have to buy into

1257
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 5: America's idea of success. It doesn't mean that you hit

1258
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 5: this certain dollar amount. It doesn't mean that you have

1259
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 5: this type of partner who does this.

1260
00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 4: Type of job.

1261
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 5: It might don't even mean you have one partner at all,

1262
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 5: or you have multip whatever you want to do. But

1263
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 5: you have to define what that means for you. And

1264
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 5: I think that even parents, you know, the parents of

1265
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 5: first gen kids are starting to learn that the American

1266
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 5: dream looks different for every household, for every family, for

1267
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 5: all of your offspring. You can't put your kids in

1268
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 5: a box and force them to do things that God

1269
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 5: didn't put them on this planet to do, because they

1270
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 5: won't even be successful or happy. Even if they do

1271
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 5: get that degree. Now that sattled with dead end, they're depressed.

1272
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,959
Speaker 5: So I would say for anybody out there, hard work

1273
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 5: is already that's a non that's not negotiable. But the

1274
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 5: next thing is find out what happiness looks like for

1275
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 5: you and connect with whatever your spiritual base is and simplify,

1276
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 5: simplify life and deconstruct this idea of capitalism and happiness

1277
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 5: that Americans put on us. And uh, you know, then

1278
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 5: you probably find some sort of contentment.

1279
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 2: Dumba.

1280
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: See that's gonna go viral. You know what the yellow

1281
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 1: banner at the top and bottom. Oh, I'm not gonna

1282
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: lie or I'm gonna put you in black and white

1283
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: and play.

1284
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 2: Strings behind you. And you say that because that.

1285
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: Was I'm thinking of look post production how much because

1286
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: that was a bar No, but but valid.

1287
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: I think that that's the important thing. Right again.

1288
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: I think even in terms of us living the same

1289
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,479
Speaker 1: life with the pressures now to purchase a home because

1290
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: we've reached a certain you know, part of the tier,

1291
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: or to go now, what's next. There's always a what's next,

1292
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: like you said, and I do find that to be true.

1293
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: Like you have to define happiness for yourself, you have

1294
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: to define success for yourself. And essentially that's why I said,

1295
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: a bitch is just existing. My relationship is defined how

1296
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: I want it to be my like what how much

1297
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: money I make and why I want to make this

1298
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: money is for me, not for anybody else.

1299
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: It's for me, which is.

1300
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: Why when y'all listen to me, I'll be like, who

1301
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: the fuck is this bitch and who she talking to?

1302
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: Not you, bitch, It's for me.

1303
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: It's my thoughts. I'm I'm learning to exist in a

1304
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: world that every which way in turn I thought I

1305
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: was making the right one, something came and knocked me

1306
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: off and pushed me ten steps back to where I

1307
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: had to fucking pivot and figure this out. Like I'm

1308
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: not in control of the things I thought I was

1309
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: in control of.

1310
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: And this dream is a dream, that's it.

1311
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: And so while I'm here, what makes me happy has

1312
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: to be for me and not anyone else. And I

1313
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: think when you're able to walk into the room and

1314
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: again you find that happiness, but you found it within yourself,

1315
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: and you can walk into the room not as a homeowner,

1316
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,959
Speaker 1: not as a C suite exec, not as a mother,

1317
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: not as a wife, but as someone that you're truly

1318
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: content with.

1319
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: That's what. That's all that matters. That's all that fucking matters.

1320
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: And y'all could choose to selectively be ignorant if you

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Speaker 1: fucking want to, motherfucker. Anyway, question for the audience, what's

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Speaker 1: your idea of the American dream? Still the original mantra

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Speaker 1: of hard work and determination or is something more philosophical

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Speaker 1: that has to do with happiness like domity? And myself

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Speaker 1: said anyways, guys don't see where can they follow?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 2: Subscribe and hear more of these fucking drops.

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Speaker 5: Well, man, chestnut checkers, I just started the page the

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Speaker 5: c n C podcast.

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Speaker 4: If y'all follow now, y'all will be what like the

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Speaker 4: hundred first follow us.

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Speaker 5: So please help you build this platform that we just started,

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Speaker 5: which I gotta say this, I'm gonna say it on

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Speaker 5: my show as well. Thank you for your support throughout

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Speaker 5: the year. People don't even know we're gonna talk on

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Speaker 5: my show more about this, but how much you invest

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Speaker 5: and help other people?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you one of those ones.

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Speaker 5: We need, we need that to be a bit of conversation.

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Speaker 2: Anything, like.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that even being here because I mean, I

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Speaker 1: come on here like the villain like.

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Speaker 2: But it's a bit of its entertainment in the front.

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Speaker 1: But I genuinely believe that there is enough for all

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Speaker 1: of us to eat absolutely enough.

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Speaker 5: Everyone say that you move like that for real, and

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Speaker 5: I want people to know that. And yeah, so you

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Speaker 5: can follow me at DOM T D O N E

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Speaker 5: T I.

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Speaker 2: Uh and uh wait your series series you narrate it right?

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Speaker 5: I got one more series that I need to shout out.

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Speaker 5: Candy Man, The True Story behind the Bathroom Mirror Murder. Yes,

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Speaker 5: it was an episodic, a six part docu podcast that

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Speaker 5: I hosted and co executive produced with CBS forty eight Hours.

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Speaker 5: And uh it looked into the true story that inspired

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Speaker 5: the Candy Man movies. It actually originated with the murder

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Speaker 5: of a real woman, an African American woman on the

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Speaker 5: in the housing project in Chicago, and they took her story,

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Speaker 5: gave no credit to her.

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Speaker 2: And oh and I never could say that word in

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Speaker 2: the mirror.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look, seen the movie until I did the podcast.

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Speaker 5: But it's an enlightening podcast. It's entertaining. I mean we

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Speaker 5: picked the music, you know, self created the music with

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Speaker 5: the whole crew.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to the CBS forty eight hours team.

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Speaker 5: That was one of my happiest moments in my career

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Speaker 5: because we debuted at number two on True Crime.

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Speaker 2: Which is a big deal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, True Crime.

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Speaker 2: Is the number one, the hardest come on period eight,

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Speaker 2: top eight overall on all Apple podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Amazon Music voted in one of the Best Podcasts of

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. Spotify I voted one of the best

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Speaker 5: podcast so, you know, check it out. I'm really proud

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Speaker 5: of that work, you know, I think you guys enjoyed

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Speaker 5: and learned a.

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Speaker 4: Lot from it.

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Speaker 1: Again, follow Domacy everywhere. His all of his information will

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Speaker 1: be in the description of this episode.

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Speaker 2: Oh not you finding our tagline? Finally, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Well, guys, if you want to watch this full video,

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Speaker 1: make sure you go on over and subscribe. That's patreon

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Speaker 1: dot com backslash selective ignorance, and I do want to

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Speaker 1: also leave you with the reason why I do this.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the American Dreaming where I see myself

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Speaker 1: it is as a podcaster, which leads to audio first.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully this audio sounds better than some of my

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Speaker 1: past episodes. We had technical difficulties over here early on

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Speaker 1: with my projecting voice. However, you already knows fine. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: because this costs a lot, this is an independent the

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Speaker 1: way that you can support me is by going over

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Speaker 1: to the Patreon seeing.

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Speaker 2: The full video.

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Speaker 1: I have ignorant rants over there. I'm starting as well

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Speaker 1: the kickbacks. I don't know what I want to call it,

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Speaker 1: but basically you guys can join me once a month

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Speaker 1: over there, So that's on Patreon.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, make sure you subscribe rate five stars,

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Speaker 2: do all of the things to keep us on the charts.

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Speaker 2: And you can hate it or you can love it.

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Speaker 1: Either way, are you choosing to be selectively ignorant or

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Speaker 1: are you choosing to be educated?

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Speaker 2: See you next.

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Speaker 3: Week, thanks for tuning in. The Selective Ignorance of Mandy B.

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Speaker 3: Selective Ignorance. It's executive produced to Buy Mandy B. And

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