1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntire. 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: What is up Street Fire, FAYMP, It's me Jason McIntyre, 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: Straight Fayer for Thursday. 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 3: Teper the eighteenth. Then we got a Thursday Night Barn. 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: Not so much Buffalo Bill's Miami Dolphins gad zoos. That 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: is not a good game. Bill's twelve and a half 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: point favorites. I think, you know, we'll talk about the 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: best bet in a minute. Josh Allen has totally on 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: these guys fifteen and two in his career against Miami. 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: I mean that's forty four touchdowns in those games, Like, 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: come on, I can't listen. I'd love to make a 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: case for the underdog year. I just I don't see it. 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: We saw a good Washington team on Thursday Night look 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: completely overwhelmed early in the season in Green Bay, and 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: I think that probably happens to Miami, which is still 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: reeling from the Miami game, the the loss at home 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: to New England. And you know, I'm not laying the lumber, 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: but I think Buffalo minus twelve and a half you 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: got to have it, and I'm going to have them 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: in at least one survivor. 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: You don't want to burn Buffalo. 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: Because they got a lot of good matchups going forward 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: to If you go to Tha's site Cleve Analytics, you 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: can see Buffalo has Buffalo and Baltimore have some of 25 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: the most value going forward, and there's other good, good options. 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: We'll get to all that Friday. But today's pod we 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: have a great guest. 28 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: Albert Breer. Monday Morning Quarterback. We get into everything. 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I don't want to totally bash Arch Manning, 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: but you know, I mean, he's the lowest rated passer 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: in the SEC. I think he's at like fifty five 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: percent completions. And also the college quarterbacks that are going 33 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: to be drafted in twenty twenty six, Manning's not one 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: of them. 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: They ain't great. 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: They're really struggling in college football this season. But mostly 37 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: Breer and I talk about this week. Do c J. 38 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: Stroud suck Eagles Rams? I make a case for the 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: Rams getting three and a half. I don't understand why 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: people are betting the Lions. It could be people are 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: betting early in the week when the limits are lower, 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: they move off the six. I saw it down a 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: four and a half. Now the limits go up Friday, 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: and then you can come in heavy with the six 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: figure bets on Baltimore at a lower price. We talk 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: about all the games this week, and I think you're 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: gonna like it. Without further ado, let's bring in my guy, 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: Albert Brewer. 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: I know what sports fans. 55 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: Want, but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: who does. 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: guy who knows another guy. All Right, let's welcome back 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: one of the most popular guests on Straight Fire. He's 60 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: a TV fixture, He's famous in Baltimore, he summers in Nantucket. 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: He's like one of the Ohio State big dogs, sitting 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: front row with the all. 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 3: Right, I've said enough nice things. Albert Breer SI dot Com. Albert, 64 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: How you doing, man. 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: Good? 66 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 5: How you doing jam Matt? 67 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: I'm excellent. I know. 68 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 2: Obviously this is a tough time for you. The Buckeyes 69 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: are playing bad teams, so you can't get too excited. 70 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: That being said, let's start with college football overall. 71 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: Your early read on the Buckeye season, are they going 72 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: to go back to back? 73 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: I think you've got a chance to. 74 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 4: I mean think Julian Sayan is playing really good football 75 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 4: at quarterback, and you know, Magic Patricia one of the 76 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: big questions coming in. I think it's done a great job. 77 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: They've got real identity on defense now. 78 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 5: And look, I think they've probably got the two best. 79 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: Players in the country right now and their roster and 80 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 4: Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs, and so yeah, you still 81 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: have some questions of course, like well, you know, how's 82 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: the offensive line come along? You know, as part of that, 83 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 4: what does the run game look like we get into 84 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: late October in November? You know, Defensive tackle I think 85 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: will be the big question on the defense, you know, 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: but I think they can work that stuff out. The 87 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: talent certainly there. Repeat we'll see, we'll see if they 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: can pull it off. Takes a lot of luck too, 89 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: so you know, we'll see what happens. 90 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: All right, So I'm gonna bat one more college football thing, 91 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: but I want to back in using I saw an 92 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: interesting tweet from you this week about the how social 93 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: media is getting people like to lose their minds about 94 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 2: quarterbacks on like a week to week basis, you're awesome, 95 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: you suck, you're terribly people are going crazy. Can we 96 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: just start with arch Manning on that because for the 97 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: last seven months I heard he's the heistman favorite, this 98 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: guy's the man, He's gonna go number one. Listen, I 99 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: was buying into the hype. Vegas had him as the 100 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: heighttsman favorite. So it's not just regular people and podcasters, 101 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: but Albert. We've we've got like three data points so 102 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: far this season, two of them against bad teams. Arch 103 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: Manning has been bad this so far, fifty five percent completions. 104 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: So is that the Internet overreacting? 105 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: What are you see? 106 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 107 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's a product of expectations that 108 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: were you know, sent into the stratosphere because of his 109 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: last name, because it was recruiting ranking, and you know, 110 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 4: look like I remember having this conversation with I think 111 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: I called about a half dozen scouts who I know, 112 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: like I regularly go through Austin to talk to them 113 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 4: about this at the beginning of May, because I saw 114 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: the way too early mock drafts that had him number 115 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: and overall, and I'm like, that seems insane, Like I've 116 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: never seen that before where there is a guy who 117 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 4: has legitimately not. 118 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 5: Been a starter yet. 119 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: And I started two games, but those two games were 120 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: against a directional school and the worst team in the. 121 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 5: SEC last year. 122 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: Right, So I called around and I you know, the 123 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: the opinion I got is like, we don't know either way. 124 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 5: We just haven't seen enough, you know. 125 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: I think like people look at it and think it's 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 4: all about like your height and your arm strength and 127 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: your athleticism, and there's so much more that goes into 128 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: the position then playing then then then chose the physical trades. 129 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: You been to the table, and so what they'd all 130 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: say is like, seems like a great kid gets. 131 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 5: Along with everybody in that program, has a. 132 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: Great relationship with Quinn yours, which I think, you know, 133 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 4: says a lot about both those. 134 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 5: Guys, and you know, he looks good so far on table. 135 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: We just don't know because how often against what was 136 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: I think it was like Central Arkansas on ut No 137 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: it was it was Mississippi State and it was the 138 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: Central Arkansas Is that right? 139 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: I think a state or UTEP maybe right? 140 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 5: So whoever it was like it was. 141 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 4: You know, in those two games, how often was arch 142 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: Manning running a play that didn't that wasn't running exactly 143 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: the way that they were prescribing it in practice? 144 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 5: Right? 145 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 4: Like? How often in those two games was the opponent 146 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 4: forcing him past his first re read? How often in 147 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: that in those games was the rush getting to him? 148 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: How often do you have to see him move? How 149 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: often did you have to see him bounce back from 150 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: a three and out or a couple of three and 151 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: outs in a row. 152 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: How many different coverages do you see? 153 00:06:59,680 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 4: You know? 154 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 5: And I think this is why, like. 155 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 4: The baseline for quarterbacks generally, the number i've heard is 156 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: twenty five starts, Like the NFL wants twenty five starts, 157 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: because if you have twenty five starts, you'll have been 158 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: forced to grow through a lot of things. 159 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: You'll, you know, be a first time starter. 160 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: Then six or seven starts in like, defenses will start 161 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: to get a book on you. They'll start to figure 162 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: out what you're good at. They'll take that away. Now 163 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you've got a CounterPunch. You've got 164 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: to learn how to do things a little bit differently 165 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: than maybe you did the start over time you'll start 166 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 4: to build up a library you have different coverages and 167 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: different rush looks in your head and be able to 168 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: diagnose those and deal with them a little bit better. 169 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: And the pros will then have had a chance to 170 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: see like defenses throw different looks at you on a 171 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: continual basis. 172 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 5: And so like, I think, like it was just I'm 173 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: gonna call it what. 174 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 4: It was stupid that we were projecting him to go 175 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: first overall and we just didn't have the information. Again, 176 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: it never happened before, Like if his last name was 177 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: Smith because of his recruiting ranking, Texas fans would have 178 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: been really excited about him, But how many other fans 179 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: would have even heard of him, you know, let alone 180 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: you have all these people putting him first overall. So 181 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: I think the effect of that, Jmax, and is where 182 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to swing it back, like bring it back around. 183 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: The effect of that is that everybody had their expectations 184 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: way up here and the reality was like they're just 185 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: like like he was. It cost him the chance to 186 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: kind of grow in silence and work through some things. 187 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: And you know, I went back and I looked at 188 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: cam Ward when he first made the move to to 189 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: to the FBS, coming from from Incarnate Word and going 190 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 4: to Washington State and he had a stretch in there 191 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: where he threw seven picks in four games. 192 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 5: Do you think anybody even noticed that? 193 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 4: You know, you know, like, so he was afforded the 194 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: chance to grow through that stuff. You know, nobody was 195 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: worried about him as an NFL draft prospect when he 196 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 4: first became a starter. And this is a guy who 197 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: had two years starting at a lower level under his belt, 198 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: a right, So you know, I think that's sort of 199 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: what this is cost starts Manning. It's like all the hype, 200 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 4: the nil money he took, so you know, like it's 201 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 4: not like he was turning down in il deals. But 202 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: the reason but I think the reason why Cooper Manning 203 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: raised his kid the way that he did and tried 204 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: to tamp down the hype as much as he possibly could, 205 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 4: was because he knew, like, if they build him up 206 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: to be this when you know, when he's only accomplished this, well, 207 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: then when he performs like this, it's going to feel 208 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 4: like he fell off of a cliff. And so I 209 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: think that's what it feels like to a lot of people, 210 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 4: because you built him up way up here, Now it 211 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: feels like because he's playing down here, like he fell 212 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: off this cliff when maybe it's really just start the 213 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 4: start of a process of growing for a really talented 214 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: kid who buy all accounts, has a really good head 215 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: on his shoulder. 216 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. That's well said, obvious. 217 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 5: You know, it should be. 218 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: Noted this is year three for him at Texas. It's 219 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: not like he's a freshman. But and Carson Beck is 220 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: a good game to remember Carson he went through this 221 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: a similar thing and then he ends up transferring. He 222 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: had the injury, and Carson Beck looks like the best 223 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: quarterback by the way, twenty twenty six quarterback class that 224 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: was so hyped. I mean, Cape Club Nick he's been bad, 225 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: multi year starter. Nuss Meyer's fallen off a little since 226 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: that opener. Now there's a report that he's maybe injured. 227 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: Seller's got knocked out with a concussion. Like, I don't 228 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 2: know that the quarterback class is great. Carson Beck does 229 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: look good. I would say he looks like the best 230 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: quarterback so far. 231 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 4: I think we I think and again I think like 232 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 4: a lot of this like we have to let it 233 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: play out. Yeah, I think the other example you mentioned 234 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: the year three Jayden Daniels, Like if he had come 235 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 4: out of it out from Arizona State after three years 236 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: instead of transferring to LSU, like. 237 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 5: He might have gone drafted. You know. 238 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: So I think these things have evolved over time. And 239 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: like I said this coming in, like, I think there's 240 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: probably five or six guys that are draft eligible this 241 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 4: year that have a chance to ascend to that level. 242 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 5: But it doesn't mean they're going to be up there 243 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 5: right away. Like we haven't talked about Drew Aller because 244 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 5: they haven't. 245 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: Played anybody yet, right like, but eventually we're gonna be 246 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: taking it close to look at true Aller, who by whoo, 247 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: if you look at him, like has the physical traits 248 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: right like, he looks like he looks like a top 249 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: ten pick, you know what I mean. Like when you 250 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: just like look at who he is physically, you know, 251 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: nus Meyer is gonna have a chance to atone for 252 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: some of the earth, like to to work through the 253 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: injury and everything else. And you know, I like, like 254 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: club Nick, I think is somebody that you you you 255 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: look at and like, yes, that's been disappointed for the 256 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: first couple of weeks. 257 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 5: We have to let this stuff play out, you. 258 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: Know, so. 259 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 5: I don't think like. 260 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: I think the way I described this class coming into 261 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: the year, I still feel this way was you have 262 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: five or six guys that have a chance, I think 263 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: to be in that top ten, top fifteen conversation, right, 264 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: But I don't think we came into this year with 265 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: like Caleb Williams and Drake May two years ago, where 266 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 4: Jade Daniels ascended to that level. We weren't talking about 267 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 4: him that way like before the season, like we knew 268 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: at the beginning of the year, Caleb Williams and Drake 269 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 4: May are gonna be very high draft. I didn't quite 270 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 4: feel that way about any of the guys going into 271 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: this year, but I thought a handful of them had 272 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: a chance to be on that level, which I think 273 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: is still where we're at. 274 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 275 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 276 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 277 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: listen live. 278 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: All right, let's pivot to the NFL. 279 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: Albert, and I'm assuming your tweet about the quarterbacks was 280 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 2: in reference to CJ. 281 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 3: Stroud, who you know again first year, No doubt. 282 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: He was of them a few. 283 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll start with Stroud. 284 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: So he was awesome to you as a rookie, and 285 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: Bryce Young was so bad being number one that Stroud 286 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: looked even better maybe than he was. I still remember 287 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: his first game. I bet against him with Baltimore. He 288 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: was terrible against Baltimore in that opener. 289 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Your two. 290 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: Some regression year three has started, and he looks like 291 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: ass he cannot complete anything on third down. He's like 292 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: terrible in the red zone. And I know new offensive line. 293 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 2: He's missing Christian kirk uh, he's missing his blocking tight end. 294 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: So there's no run game, and it just feels like 295 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: we're making a lot of excuses for CGS coordinator. 296 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Coordinator. 297 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: That's true, Listen, I'm not I'm just going off what 298 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: I've seen from two games. He's looked bad, but I 299 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not I'm not burying him and saying 300 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: he's terrible, but he has been terrible. Like I know, 301 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: it's a tough, difficult discussion. 302 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: Right so right, like, I mean, a rookie left tackle, 303 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 4: two rookie receivers that are playing, uh, you know, an 304 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: offensive line that is that is just I mean, was 305 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 4: a was a mess last year. And they're trying to 306 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 4: fix it. They felt like it was toxic in that 307 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: room last year. You know, I just think that there's 308 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 4: a lot that they've got. 309 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: To work through early in the year, and like. 310 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: I think the idea here is to put more on CJ. 311 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: Strouds shoulders. In other words, like last year, I know 312 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 4: he was frustrated by not having much control to change 313 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: things at the line of scrimmage and he wanted that. 314 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: So they go from you know, sort of the Shanahan system, 315 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 4: which is what Bobby Slowock brought, where the quarterback is 316 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: sort of one of eleven and and yes he's got 317 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: some power, but for the. 318 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 5: Most part, in the like normal version. 319 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: Of that system, which you know has been adjusted for 320 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: guys like Stafford and Rogers over the years, the protection 321 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: calls are on the center. 322 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 5: You have a pretty defined system of you see this, 323 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 5: it's this play, You see this, it's this play. 324 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: And so he wanted more control at the line, and 325 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: he wanted to have a little bit more say because 326 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: he did at Ohio State. And so they bring in 327 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: a guy and Nick Kayley from the Rams, who had 328 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 4: some background in the Shanahan system having worked for McVeigh. 329 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 4: But Also, most of his background is in the Patriots system, 330 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: which you know gives the quarterback a ton of power. 331 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: That's the Tom Brady system, and so I think there's 332 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: a little bit of a. 333 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 5: Process going on there. I believe CJ said something that 334 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 5: alluded to that today. 335 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: So I think it's just like a lot of moving 336 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: parts right now. And I know it does and help 337 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: you do your show today. But I do think like 338 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 4: this is one of those where four weeks in, six 339 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: weeks in, it wouldn't surprise me if it clicks for him. 340 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: I think that's got a chance to be a really 341 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: good team with one with one caveat, the caveat being 342 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: the caveat being the offensive line needs to come along. 343 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: So Ersari, they're starting left tackles a rookie. They need 344 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 4: to figure they need they need a high level to 345 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 4: play from him at a very important position. They got 346 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: to figure out the interior as Patterson the guy at center. 347 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: Are they going to keep Titus Howard at right tackle? 348 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: Was he gonna move inside the guard? All of that 349 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: needs to work itself out too. So but if they 350 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: I think if they play really well in the offensive line, 351 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: they've got a defense that's that's championship caliber. 352 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 5: And I think CJ can get back to what he 353 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 5: was as a rookie. 354 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: But a lot of it depends if people want to 355 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: divorce the quarterback from his situation. 356 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 5: You can't do that. His situation is not great right now. 357 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: It's what they expected. 358 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 4: They the expectation, the way they built it was for 359 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: six weeks into the year. It's going to look a 360 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: lot better and we'll see if that happens or not. 361 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 362 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: So Jalen Hurts has had like five offensive coordinators in 363 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: five years. 364 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: Not making excuses, But you said Bobby Slowick, and I 365 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: remember when he was the bell of the ball during Stroud. 366 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: The same system. They were all what's that? 367 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: I just looked up Shanahan. 368 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: Shanahan had Bobby Slowk in his system with the Niners, right, 369 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: and he was awesome play calling for Houston in year one. 370 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: Stroud rookie year year two, he's terrible all of a sudden, 371 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: and then he's fired. Do you even know Slowik right 372 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: now is the senior pass game coordinator the Miami What 373 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: that's quite a fall. First of all, what happened to 374 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: Stroud last year? Can we really blame it on the 375 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: offensive line. 376 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: I think so like there are a few things I 377 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: would say things are toxic in the offensive line room, 378 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: which is why they trade Laramie Tonsil. And it wasn't 379 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: necessarily Laramie Tonsol was the problem. It was just that 380 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 4: as a captain, I don't know if they could count 381 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 4: on him as being part of the solution. So they 382 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: move him, which is a huge risk. It's a massive 383 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: risk to move your love task like that, but they 384 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: made that decision, you move your left tackle, and they 385 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 4: felt like the offense had it hadn't adjusted and changed 386 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 4: enough to where when you go into year two as 387 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: an offensive coordinator you have. 388 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 5: To there there there has to be like a. 389 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 4: Level of of of change that comes with defenses catching 390 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 4: up to what you're doing. And there was a feeling 391 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 4: internally that that didn't happen enough, and I think Stroud 392 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: saw that and he became frustrated that he couldn't change 393 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 4: and adjust things on the fly to remedy that, which 394 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 4: I think led to more problems and ultimately the discussions 395 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: that ended with with with Bobby Slogg being out, which 396 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 4: is I know, it's like kind of like it jumps 397 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: out people, right, This guy who was interviewing for head 398 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: coaching jobs a year ago. But you know, getting your 399 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: quarterback position right is really, really, really important. 400 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 5: And I think some of. 401 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 4: The the situation there between between quarterback and coordinator preyed 402 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 4: a little bit too. 403 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: My favorite game of the weekend is Eagles Rams. It's 404 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: weird the level. Yeah, everybody says the Eagles are amazing, 405 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: and you know, they've been good to me the first 406 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: two weeks betting Albert. They have the fewest plays over 407 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: fifteen yards in the league, you know, and I and 408 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: I get it, like, hey, we've got a system that works. 409 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: They also faced two pretty below average defenses in Dallas 410 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: and Kansas City. And yes, Kansas City defense is below average. 411 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 5: Kansas City is good. I would I would say Dallas 412 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 5: face value on Dallas. 413 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: I mean justin Herbert rolled them up and down the field. 414 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 3: I saw some pressure. 415 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: They can't get pressure with four They've got a blitz 416 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 2: and their back end is not good. 417 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: Bottom line is I think the Eagles. 418 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to say overvalue, but I think I 419 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: like the Rams getting three and a half this week. 420 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: I know the Witherspoon loss is big. I'm just curious 421 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 2: how you see that matchup unfolding Rams Eagles. 422 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 4: Well, they went back, they went in there, they went 423 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: in there and almost beat them in January. Yeah, and 424 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: really we're a player two away from being them in 425 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 4: a snowstorm, which is Philly's environment. 426 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: But I think they went so far and murdered the Rams, right, 427 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: didn't take one rush for like people, right, Yeah. 428 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: I mean I think like this one really comes down 429 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: to that Rams defensive front and the job that they 430 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 4: do to get the Eagles in obvious passing situations and 431 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 4: then rush Jalen Hurts And you know, I think that's 432 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: easier said than done. But I think we saw it 433 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: at the end of the Kansas City game. I mean, 434 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: like the Eagles offensive line, for all the warts on 435 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: offense right now, the Eagles offensive line still turned out 436 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: that first down when everybody in the building knew it 437 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: was coming, right, Like, with about seven minutes left in 438 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: the game, they go Barkley, Barkley, then Tushbush first down. 439 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 5: That tears another two minutes off the clock. 440 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: And then after Kansas City came back and scored, the 441 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: Chiefs were that the Chiefs were so concerned with that 442 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 4: happening again, but they tried the on side kick when 443 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: they could have kicked it away there because they knew 444 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: what could happen. And then that was justified by the 445 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 4: Eagles being able to do the same thing once again. 446 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 4: And so like I would pay less attention to the 447 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: score in the yardage here, what I pay attention to 448 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: with the Eagles right now and the way that they're 449 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: playing is the game control. And it never felt like 450 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: that game was in the Chiefs control. It felt like 451 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 4: the Chiefs were chasing the whole time. And the Rams 452 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 4: have to create a situation where they sees control of 453 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: the game, and that might be by putting an early 454 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 4: score on the board. It certainly I think has to 455 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 4: be by slowing down the running game. But the strength 456 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 4: of that Rams team really is in its defensive front, 457 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: and so you know, you talk about Watherspoon and the 458 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: injury and everything else, their corner situation isn't great with 459 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 4: the Rams, but that's sort of a conscious decision they've 460 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: made and where they're making their investments and investing in 461 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: players up front, and so playing against one of the 462 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 4: best offensive lines in football, probably the best offensive line 463 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 4: in football, I think the key here is get them 464 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 4: in obvious passing situations then you can dial it up, 465 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: and then you can make Jalen Hursts a little less comfortable. 466 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 4: If they're constantly in you know, second and six and 467 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: third and three. 468 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 5: I think it could be a long day for the Rams. 469 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 5: So that's me will be the key. 470 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: Is there any game that jumps out at you this weekend? 471 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: And listen, I there's some time which one oh line? 472 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 5: Did you see? 473 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: That line was six? The Ravens were favored by six, 474 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: and it's down to like four and a half or four. 475 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: I don't know why what people are saying. I mean, 476 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: it's like, come on, it's one game against the sad 477 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: Sack Bears. 478 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 5: I don't try that as closely as you do, but 479 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting. 480 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 4: I talked to Jamayor Gibbs about this, you know, after 481 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: they beat the brakes off the Bears, and he said 482 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 4: to me, I asked him, like, what the problem was 483 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: in Green Bay? 484 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 5: And I thought that was an interesting answer. He said 485 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 5: it was communication. 486 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: He said that we had a really hard time, and 487 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: if you think about it, that actually makes some sense. 488 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: So the Packers come in and the Lions have zero 489 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: idea like how Micah Parsons is going to affect that 490 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: game right. 491 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 5: And you know, if you look at the three. 492 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 4: Main communicators on game day on the field, who are they, right? 493 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: J Mack is the center of the quarterback and the coordinator. Well, 494 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: two of those three pieces from last year are gone 495 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 4: for the Lions. So I think part of this was 496 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: them working through that stuff and fine and and okay, 497 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 4: like now we had the gaming us a really good 498 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 4: defense where it didn't look right. How can we go 499 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 4: in and address that. They had a chance to sort 500 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: that stuff iron it out at home. Now they go 501 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: back on the road and we'll see what it looks 502 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 4: like again. But I mean, I think it's kind of funny. 503 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: I think the Lions had like a little bit of 504 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 4: a hair across the rast and the whole Ben Johnson 505 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 4: conversation too. 506 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 5: It was like they're going up against Ben. They're going 507 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 5: up against Ben. 508 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 4: And the conversation coming out of the first game was 509 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 4: they miss Ben. And I think there are a lot 510 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: of prideful guys in that huddle, guys like Taylor Decker 511 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: and Piney Sewell and Amen Ross Saint Brown and Jamison 512 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: Williams and Sam Laporta and Jamira Gibbs and jay A 513 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 4: GoF that are basically saying, like, Okay, so you think 514 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: it was all the coaching, You don't think we've got 515 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 4: a really loaded offensive group. 516 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 5: And I think that's the case. Like I think that 517 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: the talent is still really, really good there. 518 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 4: Ben deserves all the credit he got for being as 519 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: creative as he was the last couple of years. 520 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 5: But that's still a damn good offense. 521 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 4: And it'll be interesting to see if the Ravens make 522 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 4: the Lions look more like they made the Browns look 523 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: last week, or if it looks. 524 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 5: More like the Buffalo game of two weeks ago. 525 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the Josh Allen scrambling is removed because Jared 526 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: Goff ain't going anywhere. 527 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: And I don't know, I just I. 528 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: Can't, but remember Josh Allen beat him from the pocket 529 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 4: at the end of the game. 530 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: Well, when they were coming back, but the threat to 531 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: run I think kind of made them think. Like I 532 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 2: just remember the last time the Lions went there, the 533 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: lines were five and one and it was thirty five 534 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: nothing in the third quarter, and I mean it was 535 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: just an absolute ass kicking outdoors. You're not on the 536 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: fast surface. I don't I just I feel like the 537 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: Lions they're not. What are the Lions closer to the 538 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: Bears result or the Packers result? 539 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 5: I mean that depends on what you think of the 540 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 5: Bears and Packers. 541 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 4: Right, do you view the disparity of the Bears and 542 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 4: Packers is that wide? 543 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 5: If it is that wide? 544 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: And I think the Packers have looked like I mean 545 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: like you don't think I'm talking out of school to 546 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: say like Packers look like one of the two or 547 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 4: three best teams in football? 548 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 5: Right? Yeah? Okay, So where are the Bears. 549 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: They're not there. They're probably in the twenty two to 550 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: twenty eight range, right, all right, So if. 551 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 4: That's the case, then I mean maybe the two results 552 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: sort of match up. You know, I think the Lions 553 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 4: are still really I think the lines are still a 554 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 4: playoff team. I would not look at them and say 555 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: there's no way they make it. Here's why, because they 556 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 4: do lose Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn and that's a 557 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 4: Those are big losses, there's no question about it. 558 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: But remember what they did last year, Right. 559 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: So last year they went fifteen to two despite losing 560 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 4: what three or four or five of their. 561 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 5: Best defensive players. 562 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 4: They had no Aden Hutchinson at the end, they had 563 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 4: Noah Lee McNeil at the end, you know, they were 564 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: taping it together. At linebacker, Angeloni got hurt like Campbell 565 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 4: had been hurt. Like they had a historic amount of 566 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: injuries last year on the defensive side of the ball. 567 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: And so in one way, yeah, they lose something from 568 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 4: that fifteen to win team. But in another way, if 569 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: they can just manage to stay a little bit healthier, 570 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 4: the talent should be better than what they were putting 571 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 4: on the field last year, right, And that's notwithstanding the 572 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: loss of Frank rag Now, so I still think the 573 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 4: Lions are Now I think I win fifteen games again, No, 574 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: I don't think so. But could I see them winning 575 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 4: eleven or twelve? Yeah, I could definitely see them winning 576 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 4: eleven or twelve. 577 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: Wow, Bullets. 578 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: Now the offensive line remains really really I mean, Taylor Decker, 579 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna play. 580 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: He missed last week. It didn't matter. 581 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 4: But the home rule, that's a big question, right because 582 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: and I think that's the big question to me, Like 583 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: that was the biggest thing coming out of that Packer 584 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: game that I was worried about, was like the offensive 585 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 4: line did kind of get its ass kicked in that 586 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 4: Packer game. So so much of like the personality of 587 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: that team since Dan Campbell's got there has been through 588 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 4: this just dominating offensive line, right, so is the offensive 589 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: line by the end of the year with Graham Glasgow 590 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 4: playing center and Tate Ratleige in there at guard, and 591 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 4: you know as a rookie does he wind up eventually 592 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 4: moving from guard over to center? 593 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 5: Like how all that stuff works out? 594 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 4: I think goes a long way to where we set 595 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 4: their ceiling for twenty twenty five. 596 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 3: We could wrap up just brief well, I got two more. 597 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 5: Sorry briefly. 598 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: I got to give Daniel Jones some props. I did 599 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: not see this coming. Yeah, he's been excellent, Saint Stichen. 600 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: You have to wonder what Anthony Richardson's is going through 601 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: his head right now. 602 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: Is he like, get me out of here. 603 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: I couldn't do anything, and Daniel Jones is out here 604 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: looking like Joe Montana. I think they got lucky to 605 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: be the Broncos. So I'm tempering expectations. 606 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 5: I actually mean it was a weird penalty at the end, for. 607 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: Sure, bullshit penalty, man, let's call it what it was. 608 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 2: I actually think the Titans are very live to win outright. Now, 609 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: this is the first time the culture leaving the Dome. 610 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: The Titans went from facing arguably two of the top 611 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 2: five defenses. 612 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 5: In the league. 613 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 2: Right, the Rams are excellent, maybe top seven. Rams are excellent. 614 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 2: Obviously in the Broncos at home are a truck. I 615 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: think the Titans can win this out right. What do 616 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: you think about the Titans? 617 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 5: I think colt go win the game. Like, I think 618 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 5: the Titans are going to be better at the end 619 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: of the year. 620 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 4: I think what's coming here is I think the comparison 621 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: is probably Seattle when Pete Carroll and John Schneider first 622 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: got there in twenty ten, where the depth is so 623 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: shaky that they're going to be constantly turning the roster 624 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: and like, I mean, you're going to see over one 625 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 4: hundred players go through that place over the course of 626 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 4: the season. You know. I just think there's gonna be 627 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 4: a constant turn of guys in and out and everything else. 628 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 4: And I think that's going to continue, and know, you 629 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 4: hope you find the right mix coming out of the year. 630 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 4: I think cam Ward's actually acquitted himself pretty well. Yeah, 631 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: through two weeks, despite the fact that the offense hasn't 632 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: played great. They don't have a lot around him. 633 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 5: I think the Colts are so interesting. Man. 634 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 4: Like when I was there, like a couple of guys 635 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 4: gave me this stat which I thought was fascinating, which was, 636 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: like last year they were twenty ninth in the NFL 637 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: in total defense and thirtieth in giveaways and they still. 638 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 5: Won eight games. 639 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: And if you really think about that, it's like, okay, 640 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: Like they bring in Luay and Aroumo from Cincinnati to 641 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: fix the defense, and the feeling was as far as 642 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: the giveaway thing, we feel like we are good enough 643 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: around the quarterback to win. We just need a quarterback 644 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: who can come in here and put his hands at 645 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: ten to two and run the offense. 646 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: And that's what. 647 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson wasn't giving them. And essentially that was a 648 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: bet that Alec Pierce, that Michael Pittman, that Josh Downs, 649 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: that you know, Tyler Warren coming in as a rookie, 650 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor. It was that those those guys are good 651 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: enough that they just needed somebody to come in and 652 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: run the offense at a competent level, and all of 653 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 4: a sudden we would get a completely different picture. 654 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 5: And through two weeks. That's what it looks like. Now. 655 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 4: The warning is what happened with the Saints last year, right, Yes, 656 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 4: the Saints had a couple of changes and it looked 657 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 4: awesome through two weeks, and then you know, within a month, 658 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: maybe a little more than a month, the head coach 659 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: is being fired. 660 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 5: You know. So, like I I'm not saying like that. 661 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Daniel Jones Colts offense that we've gotten over 662 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: the first two weeks is absolutely what we're going to 663 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: see for the next three and a half months. But 664 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 4: it does look like the bet that they made, which 665 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: was we're good enough around the quarterback, we just need 666 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: the quarterback to come in and run the offense the 667 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 4: way we wanted to run the offense, actually looks like 668 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: it's paying off. 669 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. Final one. 670 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: If I told you to name the top four teams 671 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: in the league through two weeks, it's early. Is it 672 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: pretty clear? In whatever order? It's Packers, Eagles, Bill's Ravens. 673 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: Who would be fifth through two weeks? 674 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 4: And I obviously if you pack I mean I might 675 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 4: put the Rams fifth. Okay, I say that because but 676 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: they haven't proven. 677 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 5: It yet, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, there, I. 678 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: Mean it's that that's a little hard. They beat the Texans. 679 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 4: I think that's a good win. 680 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 5: That was at home and they beat the Titans, which 681 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 5: doesn't show you a ton. 682 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: Well, okay, let me let me sorry for the AFC. 683 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: It feels like there's Bill's Ravens and then a drop 684 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: off an I Chargers. I was okay, I was gonna 685 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: go there like they're better than the Chiefs right now, 686 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: right it's early. 687 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: I know Xavier Worthy is going to freaking. 688 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 5: Save the day. 689 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: So I would say with the Chiefs rookie left tackle, 690 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 4: I would say Xavier Worthy is hurt. 691 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 5: Rashie Rice is back after. 692 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 4: Week six, which I think takes a ton of pressure 693 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: off Travis Kelcey, and they can use Travis Kelcey differently. 694 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 5: So I think the Chiefs, if. 695 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 4: You're the Chiefs, you're sort of treading water figuring out 696 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: what the rest of the guys can do until you 697 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 4: get back to full strength. I the Chargers, man, I 698 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: hated it for them that they a lost for Sean 699 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: Slater because when I went to the camp, like you're 700 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 4: down the street, you can go down and see this. Yeah, 701 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 4: the sot the physical size of the team really jumped 702 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: out at me a train camp. A Holy crap, this 703 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 4: is like a this is a Jim Harbaugh team, you 704 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 4: know what I mean? So I think you have that, 705 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: Like it looks like a team that is going to 706 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 4: be able to come out and really lean on teams 707 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: and get stronger as the year goes on, as you know, 708 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: the season starts to set into guy's legs a little bit. 709 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 4: Like I think they're a team that can kind of 710 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 4: push other teams around. And I love the way that 711 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: Justin Herbert's played so far, and it was interesting. I 712 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 4: had this conversation with Greg Roman when he got back 713 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 4: from Brazil, their offensive coordinator. 714 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and he. 715 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 4: Said to me, he said, like, the big thing he 716 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: flew up to Oregon this summer and he said, the 717 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: big thing that he did that they wanted to impress 718 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: on Justin Herbert was it's okay to run, which I 719 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 4: thought was interesting, right, And he brought him a bunch 720 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 4: of cutups of Mahomes and Allen and the whole thing 721 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: was how backbreaking it is for a defense when they 722 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 4: do everything right and all of a sudden you have 723 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: this big athletic guy running through the secondary, you know 724 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like you cover it right, your rush 725 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: is good, and all of a sudden he just sneaks 726 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 4: out and uh and then picks up seven or eight 727 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 4: yards and now all of a sudden, it's first down again. 728 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 5: And they, like Roman said to. 729 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 4: Me, he had a Justin had a really good year 730 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: last year, but because of the planner fascy iis to 731 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 4: cost him all of training camp because of the ankle, 732 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 4: they weren't able to install as much of the offense 733 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 4: last year, and he wasn't able to be as much 734 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 4: of an athlete. And they feel like now they're at 735 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 4: a point where you're going to get the full version 736 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: of Justin Herbert. 737 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 5: And I mean, it. 738 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: Looks really good through two weeks, right, so you know 739 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 4: this Slater injury was a big one. Khalil Macktt. Looks 740 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 4: like they dodged a bullet there had long, yeah, for 741 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: a little bit. 742 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 5: But not as long as it might have looked. 743 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: It looks to me like it was bad I happened, 744 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: so like, I mean, we'll see, we'll see. But I 745 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 4: do think it's I think he talks here in a 746 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: little bit, right, like I'm sure about that, but I 747 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: do I do think it's something where they're going to 748 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 4: have him back at some point, And like, I look 749 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 4: at it like this is a I mean, it's you've 750 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 4: watched these teams enough, Like it looks like Stanford, looks 751 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 4: like the Niners, it looks like Michigan, you know what 752 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: I mean. 753 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 5: Like it's that sort of team again. 754 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: And so I wouldn't bet against Jim Harbaugh having a 755 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: real chance to win that division. So maybe they're the 756 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 4: third team in the AFC after Buffalo and Baltimore. Again 757 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 4: like Houston and Kansas City. I think LINGA is talented 758 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: teams that have a chance to send to that. Cincinnati 759 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 4: obviously has the injury now, and the AFC already looks 760 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 4: a little bit differently than They're different than we thought 761 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 4: it would a couple of weeks ago. 762 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, does Harball ever give you shit 763 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: about being an Ohio State guy? 764 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: Or have you guys not discussed that? 765 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 5: He and I have had some talks about it. I 766 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 5: I respect his work. I'll put it out. 767 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay, I love it. 768 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 4: Albert brier Hey, he gave us the little piece of 769 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 4: motivation we needed to put it over the top last year. 770 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: Right. 771 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 5: No, I liked Jim. I actually really appreciate Jim. He's 772 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 5: an interesting character for sure. 773 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Albert Breard one of the best of the business. 774 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: Keep up the good work, buddy, and we'll talk to 775 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 2: you soon. 776 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 5: Thanks, Jam, I appreciate it.