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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh what's going on everybody?

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Speaker 3: Week eighteen of the NFL season, little National Championship game

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Speaker 3: on Monday. We'll get into that, knee deep. I just

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Speaker 3: had had deja vu right before the show started, fellas,

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Speaker 3: good morning.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever have deja vu?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. I had deja vu thinking

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Speaker 3: about all the players that will not be playing right.

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Speaker 2: Think about the last couple.

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Speaker 3: Of weeks in college football with all the opt outs,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, Okay, Notre Dame doesn't have their star

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Speaker 3: quarterback or star running back, but Oregon States like missing

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Speaker 3: their entire coaching staff, some of their important players.

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Speaker 2: How do you handicap this?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to week eighteen where you get some of these

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Speaker 3: games where first game of the day is Steelers taking

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Speaker 3: on the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens are resting all.

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Speaker 3: Kinds of dudes, and you're like, all right, trying to

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Speaker 3: make heads or tails of what to do with the

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Speaker 3: points spread over here. I think it's a case a

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Speaker 3: case of deja vu all over again here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I agree with you, and I also

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Speaker 5: I also think that you have to as a better

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Speaker 5: before we talk about just being a fan during a

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Speaker 5: week like this, But as a better you have to

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Speaker 5: look at which games make you comfortable betting a side

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Speaker 5: or a total versus a player prop because there are

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Speaker 5: a lot of those like incentive, you know, contract incentives

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Speaker 5: where a player is close to their receptions total, or

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Speaker 5: a player like a quarterback may need a playoff berth

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Speaker 5: to activate a couple million dollar bonus like some of

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Speaker 5: these fringe quarterback or I should say fringe playoff quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: have built into their their contracts. So you have to

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Speaker 5: figure out, am I comfortable betting on this game or

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Speaker 5: or am I more comfortable just betting on a player

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Speaker 5: or to in this game? And then in terms of

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Speaker 5: being a fan during this week, jeez, you know, I

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Speaker 5: guess if you're one of those teams who's resting starters

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Speaker 5: because they have their seed all locked up and it's

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Speaker 5: the best move for the program, I guess you could

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Speaker 5: count your blessings and say, well, we had a great

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Speaker 5: seventeen week run. If you're somebody who just wants to

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Speaker 5: turn on football and just wants to watch a good

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Speaker 5: game and you don't really have a dog in the fight,

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Speaker 5: this is not gonna be the week for you. There's

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Speaker 5: gonna be it's gonna be a little bit of slim

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Speaker 5: pickings out there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think from a viewership perspective, it's not going

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Speaker 6: to be a very sexy week.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: From a betting perspective, I'm actually coming around to this week,

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Speaker 6: and okay, I think it's I think there's a couple

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Speaker 6: factors involved. The first one being, well, the lines move

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Speaker 6: a lot, and what happens when the market, like like

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Speaker 6: if you're a stock trader, right, if you're a financial

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Speaker 6: markets trader, and I know I used to work in

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Speaker 6: this field as well, so I can speak from this

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Speaker 6: experience too, and the market goes way down one day, well, man,

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Speaker 6: well that might be a good day for you because

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Speaker 6: then you're gonna buy right. Or the market goes way

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Speaker 6: up one day, well, now it's time to sell. So

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Speaker 6: I think anytime you get these violent shifts, and we

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Speaker 6: are seeing it this week, we saw it last week.

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Speaker 6: There were some games where there were some interesting movements

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Speaker 6: late that just to me opens up opportunity. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 6: just a crazy gun slinger out in the wild West

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Speaker 6: just taking shots of things, But I do think from

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Speaker 6: a betting perspective, this week offers a little more opportunity

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Speaker 6: than maybe the untrained I might not see. From a

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Speaker 6: viewership perspective, I totally agree this is a really rough watch.

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Speaker 6: I think you can circle three or four games that

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Speaker 6: are interesting that mean something and then the rest. If

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Speaker 6: you're just watching this from a strict viewership perspective, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I might not want to watch the Patriots Jets game

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Speaker 6: tomorrow that's gonna be played in a blizzard with a

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Speaker 6: total of thirty. That one I might skip, right, you know,

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Speaker 6: the Bengals Browns game, which with Jeff Driscoll, let's starting

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Speaker 6: quarterback for Cleveland. Yeah, I might skip that game unless

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Speaker 6: you're a big Ohio fan. So I just think there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of you know do or do nots with

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Speaker 6: this week, and I think from a betting perspective it

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Speaker 6: can be intriguing. From a watching perspective, I agree, it's

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Speaker 3: It reminds me a little bit of the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 3: where there's all this steam on.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be c. J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud as the number one overall pick, and then it

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Speaker 3: was well, there's a Reddit post it's gonna be Will Levis, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, down in history I think you have to

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Speaker 3: in week eighteen, question the steam, right, just question it

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Speaker 3: and say does it really make a ton of sense?

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Speaker 2: Totally?

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Speaker 3: If for whatever reason, I don't know, pick a game

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Speaker 3: the Bengals, there's just more and more steam on the Bengals, Bengals, Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but I would at

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Speaker 3: least question it instead of just blindly going like, hey,

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Speaker 3: this is what all the cool kids are doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm betting it. You know, you can get into a

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Speaker 3: How about this game with the Steelers and the Ravens

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Speaker 3: where the Ravens are resting all of their prominent players, No,

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, Odell Beckham Junior, Uh no, Marlon Humphrey. Right, like,

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Speaker 3: you got a lot of guys that are gonna be

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Speaker 3: out here, and you've got the Steelers with the chance

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Speaker 3: to get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It's right there.

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Speaker 3: I've been playing mental tennis with myself when it comes

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Speaker 3: to this matchup right where you at think of a

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Speaker 3: tennis give us.

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Speaker 2: Here right right, yeah, yeah, we're like like the doll

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah there you can go al k wherever.

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Speaker 3: You want to do, right, Like, uh, I've been thinking

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Speaker 3: of it like this where the Ravens just have this culture. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they always come to play, you know, they don't

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Speaker 3: pack it in. Think about their winning streak and all

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Speaker 3: those preseason games, and then I stopped myself and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: wait a minute, But if you're looking at the preseason streak,

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Speaker 3: they've got all their backups in there, and they're facing

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Speaker 3: the other team's backups. They're not facing the Steelers starters

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Speaker 3: like they will in a game like this when Pittsburgh's

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Speaker 3: playoff lives are on the line.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think sometimes you could look at this and say

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Speaker 3: the line has moved about ten points with all these

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Speaker 3: a little bit too much. But ask yourself to the

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Speaker 3: Ravens backups, most of them are gonna be a lot

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Speaker 3: of them in there today. Are they better than the

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Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, I don't know that they are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look the Steelers and led by Mason Rudolph, by

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Speaker 5: the way, because Kenny Pickett continues to nurse an ankle

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Speaker 5: injury and also played poorly when he was healthy this season,

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Speaker 5: so he might have gotten Wally pipped here for the

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Speaker 5: Steelers if they make a playoff Berth And that's real thing,

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Speaker 5: and it really does happen, and we really saw it

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Speaker 2: And I'll say this about Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 5: Hasn't been perfect, no, but has it been an improvement?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And has he been a winner? And as a result

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Speaker 5: two seventy plus and completed seventy five percent of his

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Speaker 5: passes Like that thirty four to eleven win, Pittsburgh's offense

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Speaker 5: looked or I should say over Cincinnati two weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh offense hadn't looked that good virtually all season long.

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Speaker 5: So for a guy to come off the bench and

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Speaker 5: be this hot, and we've said this before with Josh

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Speaker 5: Dobbs and you know, beagent gave the Chicago Bears a

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Speaker 5: little bit of a lift at one point. I think

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Speaker 5: his story was better because of where he came from

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Speaker 2: But I digress. To get back to this game against Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: You're right what you said about Baltimore and their depth

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Speaker 5: and the way they care about winning even in the

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Speaker 5: preseason and all those things. Because this is the NFL

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Speaker 5: and the second line of players, all they are are

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Speaker 5: future starters. That's all they are now. Some of them

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Speaker 5: will never get that chance. They'll be journeymen their whole career,

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Speaker 5: but many of them will get a chance, either on

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Speaker 5: be talented to and they're getting paid to. So it's

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Speaker 5: not gonna be a lay down game for Baltimore. They're

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Speaker 5: hosting this game, you get a little inertia on your side,

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Speaker 5: the crowd stays in it.

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Speaker 2: It could be it.

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Speaker 5: Could be one of those days where it gets lopsided

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Speaker 5: fast for the Pittsburgh Steelers. But if we're talking just

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Speaker 5: about the important things, Head coach Mike Tomlin I feel

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Speaker 5: like he needs this playoff win for a lot of

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Speaker 5: different reasons. It would be the seventh time they make

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Speaker 5: the playoffs in the past decade. Also, Mason Rudolph the

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Speaker 5: at the apple potentially in a while. Here, there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of aspects that give my lean to the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: But I do understand what you're saying about the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think if you're trying to make the argument

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Speaker 6: that the Ravens are not motivated to play this game,

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Speaker 6: I think you're I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that's that's the angle here. I think

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Speaker 6: if you're looking at any of these Week eighteen games

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Speaker 6: and you're asking yourself, is this team insert underdog plucky

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Speaker 6: five six win underdog here, there's a bunch of them

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Speaker 6: playing this week that have no playoff hopes. If that

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Speaker 6: team is not up for the game, I just I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't buy that in the professional rank. I don't

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Speaker 6: buy that in any in any you know, competition, but

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Speaker 6: especially not in this situation where these guys are literally

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Speaker 6: playing for their jobs even when there's no postseason on

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Speaker 6: the line. And then you throw in the fact that

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Speaker 6: it's the Steelers and the freaking Ravens, Like, come on,

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Speaker 6: this is like the rivalry in the AFC North and Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: Just do the math. Right, Like, there's fifty three men

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Speaker 6: on the active roster. You can't sit all the starters.

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Speaker 6: You can't sit all twenty two. You've got to play

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Speaker 6: some of these guys a little bit. So there's gonna

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Speaker 6: be and we'll see how much they play. And I

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Speaker 6: actually think the backups, frankly, are probably better suited for

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Speaker 6: this game because the starters are trying not to get hurt,

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Speaker 6: where the backups are trying to play for their next job.

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Speaker 6: So I think the Ravens offensive players, you know, the

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Speaker 6: guys like Nelson Aguilar and you know some of these

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Speaker 6: backup running backs Melvin Gordon, guys that are literally on

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Speaker 6: their last like trying to get that next gig. Those

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Speaker 6: guys are gonna be playing hard today. And then you

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Speaker 6: throw in the weather, and that's why I think we've

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Speaker 6: seen this number come down significantly. Total has dropped over

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Speaker 6: a field goal. And when a total that opens thirty

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Speaker 6: seven drops to thirty four, all right, well that's a

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Speaker 6: pretty big drop because there's not a lot of points

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Speaker 3: I just think that's hilarious. That was a great nugget

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Speaker 5: You, and I will take it a step farther because

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing we're not thinking about.

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Speaker 5: Like, if I'm the Ravens, I'm keeping this game extremely

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Speaker 6: From what I'm seeing, it is a It is an

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Speaker 5: or you hate Bryce Young. The facts of the facts,

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Speaker 5: Bryce Young was a big reason why, not the only reason,

439
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Speaker 5: but a big reason why Carolina really struggled this year.

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Speaker 2: So even with the top pick, it guarantees you nothing.

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Speaker 5: Now, what are you doing. I'm keeping Justin Fields if

442
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Speaker 5: I'm Matt Eberflus. If I'm Matt Eberflus and I'm protecting

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Speaker 5: my job.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not crazy. You're you're You're gonna You're gonna throw.

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Speaker 5: In with a completely unidentified NFL player and get rid

446
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Speaker 5: of Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: I think it's crazier to do that.

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Speaker 6: I I don't know. This is a tough one for me.

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Speaker 3: So you're watching the tennis match, but yeah, Rich's backhand

450
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Speaker 3: is mazing right.

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Speaker 6: Here Djokovic, Djokovic and Nadal in the Wimbledon final.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 6: No, okay, I'll give you some numbers first, and then

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Speaker 6: I'll inject my opinion. The numbers say Justin Field is

455
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Speaker 6: playing better this year. The Pro Football focused data is

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Speaker 6: saying he is playing better this season. He has more

457
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Speaker 6: big time throws than ever before. He has fewer turnover

458
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Speaker 6: worthy plays than ever before in his career. His pressure

459
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 6: to sack ratio is significantly lower. His time to throw

460
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 6: rate is still high and elevated, but it's at least

461
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Speaker 6: slightly lower, and he's throwing fewer interceptions this year, less

462
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 6: touchdowns as yards per attempt is also lower. But I

463
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Speaker 6: think it is fair to say, based on the pro

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Speaker 6: football focused numbers some of the analytics, he has taken

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Speaker 6: at least a marginal step forward in year three. The

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Speaker 6: other part of this equation is money. Right now, the

467
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Speaker 6: Bears have gone out and kind of I would say,

468
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Speaker 6: spent a little bit right, made a couple moves. They

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Speaker 6: traded for a sweat, They brought in the Edmunds linebacker

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Speaker 6: from Buffalo in the offseason, and I think it's fair

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Speaker 6: to say the defensive moves that the Bears have made

472
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Speaker 6: are very positive right now. Down the stretch, the Bears have,

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Speaker 6: I think, from what I saw, based on the metrics

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Speaker 6: back half of the year, the best defense in the

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Speaker 6: league or in the top five. They are a top

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Speaker 6: caliber defense right now in their current iteration. I think

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Speaker 6: if this season played out another three weeks, right if

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Speaker 6: we got to week two one, I think the Bears

479
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Speaker 6: are a playoff team based off of how they're playing

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Speaker 6: right now. Then you have the contract situation to throw

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Speaker 6: into the mix. He is a fourth year rookie, right

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Speaker 6: or fourth year rookie, you know, I mean a fourth

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Speaker 6: year after his rookie year. So this is the year,

484
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Speaker 6: the offseason that you would think the extension would come.

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Speaker 6: The fifth year option will be picked up. We don't

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Speaker 6: know what that behind the scenes talk is, but you've

487
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Speaker 6: got a quarterback that at least I would say is

488
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Speaker 6: a starting caliber based on what we're gonna see this weekend,

489
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Speaker 6: a pretty you know, top half starting caliber quarterback at

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Speaker 6: least in the league. Maybe not top ten, but maybe

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Speaker 6: top sixteen. And he's getting paid right now. His base

492
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Speaker 6: salary next year will be one point six million dollars

493
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Speaker 6: and his dead cap it'll be about six mil. So

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Speaker 6: based off of what a lot of these quarterbacks are

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Speaker 6: getting paid, the production you're getting from fields compared to

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Speaker 6: what you're paying, I think is pretty fair. And yeah,

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Speaker 6: I don't know. The Bears are gonna have the number

498
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Speaker 6: one pick, Maybe they'll trade it. I've heard some rumors

499
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Speaker 6: that they won't want to trade back and take Marvin Harrison.

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Speaker 6: I think if I had a gun in my head today,

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Speaker 6: I think I would I would keep Fields, but I'm

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Speaker 6: not sure in that decision. I'm not sure in that decision.

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Speaker 3: Before you grow nice, guys, what are you freaking?

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Speaker 6: I know I reserve the right to change my mind.

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00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: You know what, I need a respite. Okay, my head

506
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: spinning around like Linda Blair. All right, that's what's gonna

507
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: happen in a second. I want to revisit this in

508
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Speaker 3: just a couple of minutes. But I need to go

509
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Speaker 3: uh to uh the beautiful Islands Tropical this time of year,

510
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Speaker 3: it's known as Isaac Lowen Kronville. You know, have you

511
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: ever been to Isaac Lowan Kronville? It is majesty. That's

512
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Speaker 3: where I need to go right now.

513
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Speaker 8: Might offer you a pina colada.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take three.

515
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Speaker 2: I love my shaker of salt.

516
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 9: Gonna leave from a palm tree. I'm gonna sway it

517
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Speaker 9: back and forth. Get a nice breeze going.

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Speaker 3: Ah, yes, I need it, I need it.

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Speaker 8: Gently gently bring you.

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00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 9: What's trending, man, what's trending is the Los Angeles Lakers

521
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 9: and losing because on Friday night they were defeated at

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Speaker 9: home by the Memphis Grizzlies one twenty seven to one thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I loo, Yes, who's worse? Is it the Lakers lately?

524
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Speaker 3: Or is it the logic of potential gms Rich Ornberger

525
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Speaker 3: and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 8: I hate to say it, but it's actually the Lakers lately.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Isaac.

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Speaker 9: Actually, actually, don't take it from me, Take it from

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Speaker 9: Lebron James, who summed up the Lakers situation quite succinctly

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Speaker 9: after the game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we just suck right now.

533
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Speaker 3: Right in case.

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Speaker 6: People I might feel next year in keeping justin field.

535
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Speaker 8: Yet right in case people out there might have missed it.

536
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Speaker 6: We just suck right now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Lakers have lost four straight ten of thirteen. The

538
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Speaker 9: Golden State Warriors defeated Detroit one thirteen to one oh nine,

539
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Speaker 9: but Golden States Chris Paul broke his left hand. He

540
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 9: will have surgery next week. The Orlando Magic rally from

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Speaker 9: eighteen down in the third quarter to win at Denver

542
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Speaker 9: one twenty two to one twenty. Palo van Caro the

543
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Speaker 9: first triple double of his career with thirty two points,

544
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Speaker 9: ten rebounds and eleven assists. Demonte Sebodis of Sacramento is

545
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Speaker 9: third triple double in the last four games, as the

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Speaker 9: Kings defeated the Toronto Raptors one thirty five to one

547
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Speaker 9: thirty and Phoenix's Grayson Allen tied a franchise record with

548
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Speaker 9: nine three pointers in a one to thirteen to ninety

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Speaker 9: seven win over Miami finally fellas. This is typically an

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00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 9: underrepresented sport around here, but we actually have diving news.

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Speaker 9: On this Saturday, a forty two year old Alabama man

552
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Speaker 9: was arrested for doing a cannonball dive into a giant

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Speaker 9: Bass pro Shops aquarium while naked.

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Speaker 8: The incident occurred on third night.

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Speaker 9: The man was apprehended when he climbed over the side

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Speaker 9: of the aquarium and fell approximately twelve feet onto a

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Speaker 9: concrete floor. And guys, we actually have the play by

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Speaker 9: a play call. This is courtesy of a bystander who

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Speaker 9: recorded it on his phone. Listen very carefully. You're gonna

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00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 9: hear the naked aquarium diver shouting with glee as he

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Speaker 9: does a cannonball dive.

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Speaker 8: Into the aquarium.

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Speaker 9: However, then just moments later you'll hear him falling the

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Speaker 9: approximately twelve feet onto the concrete floor while again naked.

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Speaker 8: Listen carefully, do.

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Speaker 2: You think to day? I got that he did a

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Speaker 2: cannon on? We'll send me a pick to the wall.

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Speaker 8: Oh where it hurt?

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Speaker 3: Well, that one's more.

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Speaker 8: And that's your diving update for today.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you, I lo it is.

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Speaker 3: can hear me yelling at Rich and Jared about here Jared,

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00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: Justin Fields takes here's the thing. Okay, just allow me

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Speaker 3: a little bit of leeway here to lay out a

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Speaker 3: couple of things. A few minutes ago, Jared was making

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Speaker 3: his case about maybe running it back with Justin Fields,

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Speaker 3: and I heard things like, you know, marginal step forward,

586
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Speaker 3: starting caliber quarterback. That's not good enough, that's not good

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Speaker 3: This is year three, he'said, thirty seven starts.

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Speaker 2: This is who he is.

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Speaker 6: You need to make a bigger jump than what he made.

590
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Speaker 6: But at least he made a jump some quarterbacks regressing

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Speaker 6: your three.

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Speaker 3: Fine, but I'm looking for a Josh Allen like jump

593
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: in year three to bypass on Caleb Williams and Drake

594
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: May and it hasn't been anything close to that. And

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00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: this is like, this is about the Bears organization. This

596
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: isn't about Matt Eberflus, and I hear rich with what

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00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: he's saying. It might be for year one, maybe justin fields.

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Speaker 3: Next year, in year four, I would hope he would

599
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: be better than Caleb Williams as a daisy fresh rookie

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Speaker 3: in the NFL. I don't even know if that would

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Speaker 3: be the case. But you don't make a move based

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00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: on what might be better for Matt Eberflus next season.

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Speaker 3: He might not even be there past this season, might

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Speaker 3: not be their past next season.

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Speaker 2: This is about the Bears organization.

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Speaker 3: And there is no way you can convince me that

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Speaker 3: the guy that's got a passer rating of eighty five

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Speaker 3: after three years including this year. By the way, sorry,

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00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: his passer rating is eighty two over a three year span,

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Speaker 3: it's eighty five this year. Wow, dramatic dramatic improvement over here.

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Speaker 3: When he's got Dj Moore, a real wide receiver, I

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Speaker 3: call it the black Sam Darnald, That's what I call

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields. And to lay it out because it sounds

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00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: a little goofy, the argument with Sam Darnald with the

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00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: Jets was, well, he's got to have better weapons around,

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Speaker 3: he's got to have better talent. You put better talent

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Speaker 3: around Sam Donald, He's still just a guy. It's the

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Speaker 3: same thing with Justin Fields. You put better talent around him.

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Speaker 3: He's a marginal NFL starting quarterback. And if you can

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Speaker 3: only get a second or a third round pick on

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Speaker 3: the open market for the guy, that is telling. If

622
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs, for some crazy reason, we're like, you know what,

623
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Speaker 3: we can't make it work. We're trading Patrick Mahomes. You

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Speaker 3: think they'd only get a two or a three or

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. Justin Fields is not a difference maker. You

626
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Speaker 3: don't bypass on a guy that could be special for

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Speaker 3: the next fifteen years for Justin Field's just a guy.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Makes no sense.

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Speaker 5: Well, it makes sense when you look at it through

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Speaker 5: the lens of I mean, are you are you viewing

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Speaker 5: this player emotionally or you're viewing him statistic and from

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Speaker 5: the standpoint of asset investment, like this is a Bilo

633
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Speaker 5: Cello moment. If you move off of justin fields, he

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Speaker 5: really hasn't come to Ripen as an NFL starting quarterback yet.

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Speaker 2: And and to use only his passer rating.

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Speaker 5: As a as a like like a main flagpole in

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Speaker 5: your argument.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: To me because he touchdowns thirty picks.

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Speaker 5: But that's that's not who he is in totalctly who

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Speaker 5: he is. He's he's also a rushing quarterback. Yeah he

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Speaker 5: has right.

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Speaker 2: He's spanked up all the time too, but he.

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Speaker 5: Had eleven hundred yards a year ago he had six

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Speaker 5: hundred and thirty. And you're right, he does have injury

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Speaker 5: proneeness attached to him. Now I'm not I'm not debating

647
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: any of the points because many of your points are

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00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 5: well founded, except for one. You're moving off of an

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00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 5: asset before the stock put potentially goes exponential growth wise,

650
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 5: like you've spent years now developing him. He's still cheap,

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00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 5: by the way, He's not just cheap this year. If

652
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Speaker 5: you do end up deciding to extend him, he's cheap

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Speaker 5: next year too, because I think he's got a lot

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Speaker 5: to prove in twenty twenty four, and he knows it,

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Speaker 5: which oftentimes motivates players to play some of their best football,

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Speaker 5: especially when they're comfortable in a system.

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Speaker 2: You're not moving off of Matt Eberflus. They've made that clear.

658
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Speaker 5: Ryan Pouls is still the GM, and so from a

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Speaker 5: franchise standpoint, we'll start from the top down. As an owner,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to buy low, sell low. I want

661
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Speaker 5: to buy low, sell high, and so I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: squeeze whatever asset benefit out of Justin Fields has left

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Speaker 5: before I make decision to draft him. If I'm a

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Speaker 5: coach or a GM moving down to that next year.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to take huge swings here this offseason

666
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Speaker 5: because we have draft capital, like you can improve the

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Speaker 5: team around Justin Fields and then, oh, by the way,

668
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Speaker 5: if it doesn't work out in twenty twenty four, we

669
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Speaker 5: can still make a pretty strong argument that the pieces

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Speaker 5: we have with a better quarterback will have a good team.

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Speaker 5: So for these guys jobs, for Poles and ever Flus's jobs,

672
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Speaker 5: They're not gonna make or want to make a big,

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Speaker 5: splashy move because if you bring in a rookie and

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Speaker 5: he stinks, Well, you're you're out of a job. So

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Speaker 5: I just think you're looking at it from the wrong angles. No,

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Speaker 5: I think, No, I'll be quicker.

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Speaker 6: I know we have to break. I think what he's

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Speaker 6: done down the stretches is noteworthy. He's looked like one

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Speaker 6: of the best quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: More turnovers than touchdown passes, yeah, wow, crazy great.

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Speaker 6: Over the last month he has more turnovers than touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, over the last I have to go back and

684
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Speaker 3: see exactly the last five six games more turnovers.

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Speaker 6: Well, they've won four out of five. Their only loss

686
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Speaker 6: was to a Browns team that looks like one of

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Speaker 6: the best defenses in the NFL. And the one thing

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Speaker 6: I'll say with the Bears as a team, it's really

689
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Speaker 6: tough to grade. The first half they were figuring out

690
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Speaker 6: a new defense and Justin Fields was asked to do

691
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Speaker 6: a lot, and then he got hurt. And then when

692
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Speaker 6: he's come back, he's played well. I mean, they listen,

693
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Speaker 6: stats are stats. They've won. They've won six out of

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Speaker 6: five out of seven down the stretch, So that's noteworthy.

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Speaker 3: I think because the defense.

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Speaker 6: If they scored thirty seven against Atlanta last week, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Because the defense defense is doing its thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: against Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: Let's score twenty eight against the Detroit Lions when he

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Speaker 5: started early December.

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Speaker 3: Let's keep them because they scored points on Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Detroit's a playoff team. I don't know. I mean, Atlanta

703
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Speaker 2: might be a division winner.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll give it some time and we'll see how

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Speaker 3: this works out. I kind of hope they do run

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Speaker 3: it back, just to see how horrible it would go.

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Speaker 3: All right, We've got rich Ornberger. He is a Penn

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Speaker 3: State All American GM in training.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe depending on your perspective. We've got Jared Smith FSR,

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Speaker 3: betting analyst GM and training. Maybe I'm Brian No, no

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Speaker 3: one would argue I'm a GM in training. Maybe off

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Speaker 3: of this stance.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But coming up next the par lay platter. What is

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Speaker 3: Jared Smith cooking on up? Will it be a hybrid?

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Speaker 3: Possibly the National Championship Game on Monday. We'll see what

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Speaker 3: he has to say. That's on the way. It's Fox

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Speaker 1: Check this out parlay letter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Shared Smith, you've been in the been in the

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Speaker 3: lab cooking something up here. I'm curious what the payout

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Speaker 3: is for this one. Lay it on us? Would you play?

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Speaker 6: It is an NFL moneyline parlay, same style as we

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Speaker 6: normally do. It'll be underdogs, and again, I think we're

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Speaker 6: in this week eighteen mode where these teams have quote

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Speaker 6: unquote nothing to play for and for the radio audience.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing the air quotes right now with my fingers.

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Speaker 6: But they always have something to play for. When it's

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Speaker 6: the National Football League because they're pros. Let's start with

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Speaker 6: the Steelers Ravens game, and I'm putting the Ravens on

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Speaker 6: the money line in here. I know the Steelers need

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Speaker 6: the game like blood. I don't care because Baltimore loves

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Speaker 6: playing the spoiler role in this spot. We saw it

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Speaker 6: happen a few years ago. And I just think the

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Speaker 6: weather is gonna keep this game very low scoring, and

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Speaker 6: if it's a low scoring game, low total game, I

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Speaker 6: feel comfortable that Tyler Huntin can make a couple of

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Speaker 6: drives to put Baltimore in a position to win. Of course,

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Speaker 6: you've got the twenty nineteen angle from the Duck Hodges

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Speaker 6: RG three game, and you've got the Brad Allen home

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Speaker 6: underdog angle. We'll see how much he likes being outside

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Speaker 6: in the rain today. Ravens money line in the parlay,

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Speaker 6: I think this is timely. I didn't do this on purpose,

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Speaker 6: but this was in the parlay before our discussion from

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Speaker 6: the last segment. But the money line is going in

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Speaker 6: the parlay as well. I think this Bears defense is

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Speaker 6: playing as good as anyone in the NFL right now,

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Speaker 6: and I think Justin Fields is figuring things out and

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Speaker 6: there is nothing the Bears would like more than to

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Speaker 6: ruin the Packers postseason hopes. It kind of reminds me

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Speaker 6: of last year's game Packers Lions, the upstart NFC North

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Speaker 6: team going into lambeau Field on the last day of

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Speaker 6: the year and ending Aaron Rodgers hopes of going to

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Speaker 6: the playoffs. I think the same situation plays out in

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Speaker 6: Green Bay on Sunday. And finally, speaking of that vain

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Speaker 6: the Giants money line against the Eagles. The Giants don't

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Speaker 6: have anything to play for, right yeah, right, They've lost

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Speaker 6: five straight to this Eagles team. I'm sure they're sick

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Speaker 6: of hearing about that, and the Eagles do not look

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Speaker 6: very sexy right now. I don't know what's going on

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Speaker 6: in Philly, guys, but I would be playing off this

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Speaker 6: Philly team down the stretch. And I know if Dallas

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Speaker 6: takes the early lead with Washington, the Eagles are probably

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Speaker 6: going to be packing it in in the second half.

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Speaker 6: This sucker pay sixteen to one on bet MGM Ravens

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Speaker 6: Bears Giants on the money line, sixteen to sixteen to one.

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Speaker 3: Nice little payout right there.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. Justin Fields due to

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Speaker 2: have a huge day.

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Speaker 6: He just called me.

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Speaker 3: I said, there's a good chance that happens. There's a

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Speaker 3: great chance that happens. This Packers defense has been freaking awful.

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Speaker 3: It took Jaron Hall for them to finally look good,

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Speaker 3: but the three previous games they're awful. And it would

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Speaker 3: make sense that Justin Fields goes off and then it

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Speaker 3: just fires up these debates of well they should keep

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Speaker 3: this guy. I could absolutely see that happen.

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Speaker 2: Hey coming up.

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Speaker 3: Next, man, did this team absolutely luck out? That is

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Speaker 3: on the way?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: Hope you're enjoying your Saturday morning, Week eighteen of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Rolling forward, of course, the National Championship Game on Monday.

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Speaker 3: We will preview that knee deep preview as far as

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Speaker 3: that goes. You know what, I feel like I've turned

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Speaker 3: Richie against me, I've turned Jared against me.

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Speaker 2: Why not turn Chris Purfet against me?

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Speaker 3: As we get into the Cowboys lucking out last week

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Speaker 3: against his Lions. Oh my gosh, there wasn't a team

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Speaker 3: in the NFL that lucked out as much as the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys last week. Think about that. They get the garbage call,

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Speaker 3: the assist from referee Brad Allen with the he didn't report.

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Speaker 3: He reported the ineligible receiver. That whole thing. So a

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Speaker 3: two point conversion gets wiped out. The Cowboys win that game.

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Speaker 3: Now fast forward to this week. So tomorrow the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: have a chance. If they beat Washington, they're the two seed.

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Speaker 2: They win the.

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Speaker 3: NFC East and the Eagles. Even if the Eagles win,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. As long as the Cowboys do. They've

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Speaker 3: got the inside track to the two seed. And that's

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Speaker 3: significant for obvious reasons. Right, you're playing a home game

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Speaker 3: the first week. If you win, you're playing a home

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Speaker 3: game the second week, and it might be against Get this,

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Speaker 3: the lie who should have won that game. Unbelievable what's

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Speaker 3: happened with Dallas. But the scenario tomorrow is win against

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Speaker 3: the Washington you get the NFC East and the two

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Speaker 3: seed because you were gifted a win. That is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is crazy.

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Speaker 5: And just to reflect on that again for a moment,

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Speaker 5: the NFL taking Brad Allen's crew off of the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: I thought that that was the right decision for so

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Speaker 5: many reasons, but not the least of which your sport

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Speaker 5: is now the most bet sport on the planet. You

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Speaker 5: have integrity that you need to protect you have people

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Speaker 5: who are already interested in conspiracy theories going down the

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Speaker 5: rapid hole talking, and I mean in serious nature about

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Speaker 5: how scripted they believe the NFL is.

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Speaker 2: And these are your fans, like.

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Speaker 5: These are the people who you need to keep engaged

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Speaker 5: along with those who just view because they care the

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Speaker 5: unpredictability of sport. If you start leading people to a

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Speaker 5: place where they think that certain teams are going to

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Speaker 5: be blessed at the end of the year with unfair advantage,

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Speaker 5: especially in crucial moments like that, boy oh boy, you're

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Speaker 5: gonna do a lot of damage to your league, to

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Speaker 5: the sport overall. So that was a good decision by

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Speaker 5: the NFL. And frankly, I think these refs. This sounds counterintuitive,

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Speaker 5: but I think they should be paid more. I think

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Speaker 5: they shouldn't be part time employees. I think they should be,

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Speaker 5: you know, under full review every single year as full

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Speaker 5: time employees. But I digress on that point. To make

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Speaker 5: this point, Dallas better play their asses off this weekend.

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Speaker 5: They better not look past the commanders like you have

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Speaker 5: an opportunity to be a two seed that puts you

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Speaker 5: in the cap bird position, hosting every game until you

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Speaker 5: run into the one seed, and that's going to be

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Speaker 5: important for Dallas because they're a terrible road team.

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Speaker 2: This season, they've just looked completely disjointed.

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Speaker 5: So if you can last until the NFC Championship game,

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Speaker 5: where you take the show on the road to San Francisco,

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Speaker 5: that's gonna be a huge booy for them in this

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Speaker 5: turbulent see of playoff contenders in the NFC.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Brad Allen stuff last week was unfortunate. I

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Speaker 6: do think the Lions kind of I don't want to

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Speaker 6: say they did it to themselves, but the whole point

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Speaker 6: of that play was to hoodwink the Cowboys into not

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Speaker 6: knowing which lineman was reporting eligible. They sent three guys

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Speaker 6: over to Brad Allen. And the part that bothers me

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Speaker 6: is that that Campbell literally went over the play with

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Speaker 6: Brad Allen, or at least that's what we're hearing. I

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Speaker 6: wasn't there. I don't know if he was really in

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Speaker 6: the room, but from what we know, the referees, or

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Speaker 6: at least part of the crew of the referees, meet

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Speaker 6: with the coaches every week and the coaches give them

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Speaker 6: a courtesy. It's not required, but a courtesy. Hey, these

870
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 6: are the trick players, we're gonna run. This is what

871
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 6: we're doing. From what Campbell said, he literally wrote the

872
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 6: play down and showed it to Brad Allen, so Brad

873
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 6: should have been prepped. But I understand heat of the moment,

874
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 6: a lot of things going on. You saw multiple players

875
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 6: kind of mosey their way over to Brad Allen. I'm

876
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 6: convinced that Decker was the one that reported, but I

877
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 6: think Brad Allen just was confused and said the wrong

878
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 6: guy's name, and then once that happened, that's it. The

879
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 6: play was over. There was no chance that it was

880
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 6: gonna ever be successful because the Lions lined up incorrectly

881
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 6: based off of the fact that seventy should have been eligible,

882
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: not sixty eight. If Brad Allen reported sixty eight is eligible,

883
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 6: which was Decker, than the play would have been great.

884
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 6: But you also can make the case that maybe the

885
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 6: Cowboys cover sixty eight if he would have been announced

886
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 6: as eligible. So there a lot of the fallacy the

887
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 6: pretty termined outcome involved here. The moral of the story

888
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 6: is was a It was kind of a cluster from

889
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 6: the start. The Lions designed the play that way to

890
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 6: be a little bit mysterious with which guy was walking

891
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 6: over to Brad Allen and they ended up fooling Brad

892
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 6: Allen instead of the Cowboys, and that's just unfortunately the

893
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 6: way that it worked out going forward. I think this

894
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 6: is a I think this is a very good spot

895
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 6: for Dallas. I honestly do. I think of all the

896
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 6: teams that have to win this week, I think they're

897
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 6: in the best position because of who they're playing, and Washington,

898
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 6: to me, just doesn't offer that same resistance that maybe

899
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 6: a Giants might offer, that maybe a Bears might offer,

900
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 6: that maybe a Cardinals might offer. Why, Well, those teams

901
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 6: I just mentioned are playing really good football right now,

902
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 6: the Commanders are not. So I think that's where if

903
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 6: Dallas gets off to that fast start, even if they

904
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 6: just go up seven to nothing in the first quarter

905
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 6: and you start putting that seed of doubt in Washington's head,

906
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 6: I think they fold like a cheap tent. Whereas some

907
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 6: of these other teams that I just mentioned, Bears and

908
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 6: Giants and Cardinals, they're playing well and they've got a

909
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 6: little more starchs behind him. So Dallas, all they gotta

910
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 6: do is come out with a play a really good

911
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 6: thirty minutes of football in the first half, and they

912
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 6: should be the number two seed.

913
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Washington's freaking brutal. Yeah, they're just they're bad football team.

914
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: They've lost seven straight. They've lost what nine of ten?

915
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 3: I get this over the last six games, Sam Howell,

916
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 3: three touch down passes, ten interceptions over the last six

917
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: games is pretty rough.

918
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: Now.

919
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Justin Fields backers think that's impressive,

920
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: because they think Justin Field's numbers over the last six

921
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: games are pretty impressive. So I don't know. I don't know.

922
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 3: It's a cheap shot at you guys.

923
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no comment, no count.

924
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, justin Fields five touchdown passes, five turnovers the

925
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: last six games.

926
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: But hey, hey, hey, the light bulbs going on. I

927
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: like those games.

928
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, their defense is played well. The Cowboys to have

929
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: the inside track. It's crazy that.

930
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: I like how you eliminate his rushing touchdowns. Well, yeah,

931
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: touchdowns are nice.

932
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 5: Injuries and also the fact that in those games he

933
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 5: rushed for like what a starting running back in the

934
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 5: league rushes for now, But I digress.

935
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: Well, that's all right, that's great, and he'll give you

936
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 3: twelve games a year and you'll be without a quarterback

937
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: for five of.

938
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: Them, or you could go with Kay Williams, who could

939
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: turn out like Haul this year. I don't know. I mean,

940
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't know a proven.

941
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: Star at the NFL level or proven starter, proven average

942
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: guy that's got a passer rating of eighty five for

943
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: his career after three seven starts. Oh and you'll have

944
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 3: to pay Justin Fields about four times as much as

945
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: Calebly When?

946
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: When when does this come? Wait? Wait next year? Let

947
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: me look at it. What point five mil? Oh? That's yeah,

948
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: that's a that's a steep price. Starter year four, you have.

949
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 5: To pay a quarterback you you don't know, never out

950
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 5: in the system, a huge signing bonus to walk through

951
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 5: the door.

952
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: You know what Justin Fields would be like? What he's

953
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 3: like Tua. He's in the Tua range where the bill

954
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: comes due for Tua this offseason, and it's going to be.

955
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: A big bill.

956
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: The bill is come and due for Justin Fields. He's

957
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 3: a Daniel Jones like quarterback. Daniel Jones got one hundred

958
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: and sixty million. Okay, Justin Fields is going to get

959
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: that also, and I don't think he's worth it. I

960
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: just bet that bill is coming due soon. Yeah, so

961
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: to restart the whole but low way smarter.

962
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 5: But by high sell low is is it's a it's

963
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 5: by high by low.

964
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: No, that's that's what you're gonna go by.

965
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: And that's I don't get it on the other year stock.

966
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: It's not just selling low on justin fields. It's buying

967
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: high like you're buying so low on a potential franchise

968
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: quarterback and either Kayleb Williams or Drake May, whatever your

969
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: cup of tea is, you're buying so low on that

970
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: you're in this position. This doesn't come along just once

971
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: every you know, every other year. This could be a

972
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: generational type thing. And you're you got the number one

973
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: overall pick because you made a shrewd move last season

974
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 3: and you're gonna bypass this. There are teams that would

975
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 3: kill to be in the Bears position.

976
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: I do too, and I.

977
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 5: Think that's going to net you a lot more draft

978
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 5: assets than trading justin fields. And again that's my problem

979
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 5: with this is you invest that signing bonus from an

980
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 5: ownership stamp point and then on Kate Williams or Drake

981
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 5: May or Daniels or whoever, and then all of a

982
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 5: sudden you're in the same boat, you have to restart

983
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 5: with a new quarterback, whereas you could hang on to

984
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 5: Justin Fields, maybe boost his stock to trade him away

985
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 5: after this upcoming season, improve the team around us.

986
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: I think one year and trading him and still don't

987
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: have a quarterback.

988
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 6: See that's where you look. I think that's the stretch.

989
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 6: I think the more the fiscally prudent move is just

990
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 6: to resign him, Like I think that's that's how you

991
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 6: space it out and you make your cap.

992
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 10: More you know, yeah, or again another something I agree

993
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 10: with you, like you you make you stretch it out

994
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 10: over multiple years because again you could reinvest in Justin

995
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 10: Fields and you could potentially get him on like a

996
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 10: massively cheap deal.

997
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 2: But I get I don't know if I'm ready to

998
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: resign him now.

999
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 6: But the real feel about that the two quarterbacks, like

1000
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 6: I think that. I think that, frankly is the more

1001
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 6: intriguing discussion, because if you were going to ask me,

1002
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 6: do I believe that Caleb Williams in four years is

1003
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 6: going to be better than Justin Fields? I don't know

1004
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 6: the answer that question.

1005
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 3: After what absolutely, at worst he's as good as Justin Fields.

1006
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: Justin Fields hasn't given you this premium production with forty

1007
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: touchdown passes and thirty picks.

1008
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 6: But the Bears weren't. I think you throw out the

1009
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 6: rookie year because he barely played last year. I think

1010
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 6: I don't even frankly remember the like the ups and

1011
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 6: downs that he had. But if you're just looking at

1012
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 6: this season, I think the fact that he is playing

1013
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 6: his best football down the stretch when they have nothing

1014
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 6: to play for, I think is at least noteworthy because

1015
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 6: he could have said, hey, listen, I need to worry

1016
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 6: about me, my body, my situation. I'm not putting it

1017
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 6: on the line for the Bears because they don't care

1018
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 6: about me. But he has, and I think that the

1019
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 6: fact that they've won games down the stretch, I think

1020
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 6: this is a positive situation for Chicago where if you

1021
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 6: get rid of him and you throw him out the

1022
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 6: door and you take Caleb Williams one and there's any

1023
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 6: struggle at all in the beginning, there's gonna be a

1024
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 6: lot more remorse there than I think on the backside,

1025
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 6: because I don't, guys, I'm not sold on these two quarterbacks,

1026
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams or dract me.

1027
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1028
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 6: I'm really not. And I think that's where the discussion

1029
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 6: really takes a turn. I honestly do. It's more about

1030
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 6: that than it is about Justin Fields, because who are

1031
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 6: you replacing Justin Fields with?

1032
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: Right?

1033
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 6: Everyone wants to move on from everyone, Fire this guy,

1034
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 6: Fire this guy. Who are you bringing in to replace him?

1035
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 6: I don't know if Caleb Williams, after what you watch

1036
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 6: this year, you think, hey, that's Andrew Luck number one.

1037
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do.

1038
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 3: I think Caleb Williams can be a special player in

1039
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: the NFL. At worst, he's gonna be giving you similar

1040
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: production as Justin Fields, who hasn't set the bar so high.

1041
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 5: What's so crazy is underrating how difficult it is to

1042
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 5: play even as well as Justin Fields has played.

1043
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: God.

1044
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 5: I mean, like Justin Fields isn't great. I never defended

1045
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 5: him like he was. I think he's got a nice

1046
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 5: stretch here to finish the season. But my point is

1047
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 5: it's really hard to even play that well like Caleb Wliames.

1048
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 5: I mean, Bryce Young proved it this year. I mean

1049
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 5: we could go back through it. Anthony Drew every team.

1050
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 6: In the NFL and say, would you rather have the

1051
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 6: quarterback that currently have or Justin Fields, I can tell

1052
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 6: you probably in half of them it's Justin Fields.

1053
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 3: You know, it's hilarious. I just look this up. I

1054
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 3: can't even believe this is true. It's Christmas, you know,

1055
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: come early. I know we just had Christmas, but like

1056
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four Christmas has come so early. You

1057
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: know what Justin Field's career passer rating is and for

1058
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: the people that are just like passer rating, touchdowns, interceptions,

1059
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: right completion percentage, yards per attempt, all stuff that matters

1060
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: a lot. So Justin Field's career passer rating is eighty two.

1061
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: You know what Daniel Jones career passer rating is eighty

1062
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: five point two. Daniel Jones, who all we do is

1063
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: trash with the Giants as we should. He's got a

1064
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: better passer rating than Justin Fields does.

1065
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 6: Different quarterbacks.

1066
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why both.

1067
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 3: Guys that are completely average, completely average.

1068
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 5: Justin Fields is an elite athlete in in that.

1069
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

1070
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 3: That's what it's because the guys would give you some

1071
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: drop in plays and somehow a curve.

1072
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't know why we would do.

1073
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams is not like like we don't talk about

1074
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 6: his athleticism like we do.

1075
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: That's part of his part of the bag.

1076
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's but he's got the passing ability

1077
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: as well. The question I have about Caleb Williams can

1078
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: he throw on time? That's a big adjustment he's gonna

1079
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: have to make in the NFL because I like his creativity,

1080
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: but it's got to be tastefully done. You gotta be

1081
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 3: like Playboy in the You can't be doing that left

1082
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 3: and right AFC.

1083
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 6: East Bill's Dolphins, no starters are good Patriots Jets.

1084
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 3: So what are we doing? I don't know what we're doing.

1085
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: What are we doing.

1086
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 6: Going through each team and saying, would you have Justin Fields?

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00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 6: Is the current starting quarterback that they have? I think

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00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 6: I think it's half Frankly, I think Justin Fields an

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00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 6: average quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Okay, play this game. Okay, teams need a quarterback. Would

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00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: they rather have Caleb Williams or Justin Fields? Answer that

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00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 3: question for me.

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00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 6: I'll be honest, I think right now today I'd rather

1094
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 6: take Justin Fields.

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00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: So so let me get this straight.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that the trade compensation would be the same.

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00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: Let's say all things are equal. Okay, what would you

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00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: have to trade to move up to get Caleb Williams

1099
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: compared to what you would have to change exactly what

1100
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: would you have to Would you have to spend a

1101
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: king's ransom to.

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Speaker 6: Get No, because it's a contract. No. But but that's

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00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 6: where that's where your variables are off.

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00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: Because it comes back to the Bears again.

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00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: You can reset the quarterback contract with Caleb Williams, who

1106
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 3: might be better, probably will be better than Justin Fields.

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00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: Worst case, he's going to be similar production wise, I

1108
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: don't you can get him at a fraction of the cost.

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00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: You can give that a fraction of the cost for

1110
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: comparable production. Worst we don't know that it's one.

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Speaker 6: If Caleb Williams has two awful years, just like just

1112
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 6: like most rookie quarterbacks do. Their rookie year is not great.

1113
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 6: Not everyone a c J. Stroud, Most people are Bryce

1114
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 6: Young and I just I think everyone wants to move

1115
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 6: on from people before they realize what they're bringing in.

1116
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 6: I think the Bears know what they have now and

1117
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 6: they're building around Justin Fields. I'm not saying they're a

1118
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 6: super Bowl contender, but they're not a super Bowl contender

1119
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 6: with Caleb Williams either.

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Speaker 5: And by the way if you look at Caleb Williams

1121
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 5: passing numbers and you look at Justin Field's passing numbers

1122
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 5: coming out of college, they are comparable. I mean, it's like,

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Speaker 5: here's the deal. For as much as you're in love

1124
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 5: with Justin or excuse me, Caleb Williams coming out of USC,

1125
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 5: there were people talking about Justin Fields that way, and

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00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: and and the and the reality is Justin Fields he's

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00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 5: kind of beat beat the odds, like he's remained a

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Speaker 5: starter for all three years that he's been playing at

1129
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 5: the National Football League. You look through the draft, look

1130
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 5: at the first round from twenty nineteen to today, like the

1131
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 5: last five years or so, and you see how many

1132
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 5: of those first round quarterbacks actually remain starters. It's staggering,

1133
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 5: like or like the a lot of these teams. These

1134
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 5: guys are are even backups like Zach Wilson. So it's

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Speaker 5: it's I don't know, I mean, it's just unfounded logic

1136
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 5: assuming that Caleb Williams is going to be that much

1137
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 5: better than Justin Fields.

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Speaker 6: That Brian, that's the best argument we have here is

1139
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 6: the reset of the contract, not the production. I think

1140
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 6: Caleb billants, no, no, no, maybe production I do.

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Speaker 3: If you don't think Caleb Williams or Drake may are

1142
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: capable of giving you much better than what Justin Fields

1143
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 3: has done through three years. Like it's crazy to me,

1144
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 3: absolutely crazy. He hasn't set the bar high. He's got

1145
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: a passer rating of eighty two over three years, he

1146
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 3: started thirty seven games.

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Speaker 2: This is who he is.

1148
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1150
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: Justin average Fields. That's insane to me, but hey, whatever,

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Speaker 8: This follow the money real good one.

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Speaker 3: Oh, welcome in Seamus McGee, team lead of sports trading

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Seamus.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was just thinking about Week eighteen in

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00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: the NFL, especially this one where there's so many players

1186
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: that are resting, and I'm just curious about the overall money, right,

1187
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 3: the overall handle that you'll get this weekend at BETMGM,

1188
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: what you're anticipating. Does it drop off a good amount,

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00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: like noticeably compared to say Week seventeen or Week sixteen,

1190
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 3: with as many big names that are on the shelf.

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00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: Does that affect the overall handle you guys will see.

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00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 4: Hey guys, great to be back. No, definitely not this week,

1193
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: I'd say, so many games still have playoff implications, so

1194
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 4: I think there's definitely still an appetite there. You know,

1195
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: everyone's betting games because you know, like the Ravens game

1196
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 4: tonight or this afternoon for example, Ravens are sitting a

1197
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: bunch of people Steelers have to win. But which is

1198
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 4: interesting is we need the Steelers right now. It's kind

1199
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Speaker 4: of one of the first times I've really seen this,

1200
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 4: but like five years doing this, I really haven't seen

1201
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 4: like everybody knows the Steelers have to win it. People

1202
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 4: are betting the Ravens backups to really get the job

1203
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 4: none today.

1204
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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 6: That's interesting to me because I did notice that when

1206
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,800
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01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,640
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1209
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 6: was surprised when I saw the Ravens at the top

1210
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 6: of the ticket list this week because I thought it

1211
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 6: would be reversed. It scares the Jesus out of me

1212
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 6: with my Ravens pick. But what it kind of I

1213
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 6: guess is indicating, Seamus, is maybe the public is wisening

1214
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 6: up to some of these trends, and maybe it's a

1215
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 6: more educated gambling public than maybe years past.

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Speaker 4: I think that's definitely a good point. I think a

1217
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 4: lot of people are just low on the Steelers, Like

1218
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 4: there's still Mason Rudolf back there behind center so and

1219
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: you know Raven's backups, aren't you know, they're not bad.

1220
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 4: They can know I win a football game for you.

1221
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 4: So I think there's definitely a lot of the faders

1222
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 4: of the Steelers really that's driving this action.

1223
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Speaker 5: When I'm when I'm thinking about the NFL this week,

1224
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 5: and I am a little bit distracted because we have

1225
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 5: the National Championship coming up on Monday, and we have

1226
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 5: a ton of consequential NFL games this week and we

1227
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 5: can get to but.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious how that line is.

1229
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 5: Being affected by the NFL weekend, Like, are we seeing

1230
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 5: as much handle on that that college football championship as

1231
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 5: we would if you didn't, if you didn't have all

1232
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 5: these important games bunched up in front of the Monday

1233
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 5: night opportunity to place your bet on Michigan or Washington.

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01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, money was really you know, coming in right at

1235
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 4: right when we opened the line. Yeah, Bunny Kid and

1236
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 4: Sharks pushed this from three and a half to four

1237
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 4: and a half on Michigan. But I think they're going

1238
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 4: to see an avalanche of money come in Monday morning,

1239
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 4: probably Sunday night, after some of the games finish up.

1240
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 4: It's interesting right now. I usually come on here and

1241
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 4: say we need to you know, playing against the state

1242
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 4: of Michigan, But right now, Washington's a small loser on

1243
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 4: the futures book, and most of the money line and

1244
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 4: money has been coming in on Washington. So as it stands,

1245
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 4: now we need Washington, but I would be shocked if

1246
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 4: we get some huge bets coming on Michigan David Games.

1247
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 3: Every time I hear someone speak Seamus, they love the bills,

1248
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 3: love the bills tomorrow night. Are you seeing a decent

1249
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: amount of sharp money on the fins at all?

1250
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 4: Not right now? And now we moved off the flat

1251
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 4: three to a juice two and a half right now,

1252
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 4: But it's one way traffic on the bills right now.

1253
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 4: We might get a couple of big Dolphins bets tomorrow,

1254
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 4: but we'll see about that. But right now we're definitely

1255
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: reading the Dolphins. All the money line money has been

1256
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 4: on the bills. The Bills are a loser for us

1257
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 4: on this as East, so right now where we're sharing

1258
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 4: for Miami. But we'll see how the swings come kick off.

1259
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's usually a bad nicator. You're on the wrong side.

1260
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 6: When a lot of money's coming in on Buffalo and

1261
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 6: it and it moves off the three, that's usually a

1262
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 6: red flag. As we say, Sehame is the contract incentives.

1263
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 6: It was something that I was really into a few

1264
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 6: years ago, and then over the last couple of years,

1265
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 6: last year especially, I've noticed a dramatic shift in not

1266
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 6: only how you guys priced a lot of these props

1267
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 6: heading into week eighteen, but also the information is widely available. Now,

1268
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 6: have you noticed an increase in prop betting this week

1269
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 6: or is it just kind of status quo because you've

1270
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 6: got a lot of guys playing for this contract incentive

1271
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 6: and this bonus and this and that. But frankly, I

1272
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 6: think because of how again widely available the information is,

1273
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 6: it's almost a fade at this point.

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Speaker 4: I agree. I say you're talking about it on ex

1275
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 4: this week. I completely because I think the edge is

1276
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 4: pretty much gone. Yeah, the Marcus already like we we

1277
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 4: moved priced and space off any line like sharp action

1278
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 4: comes in, we take it that we move the line,

1279
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 4: and it's kind of big in now. I think with

1280
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 4: the expansion of sports betting and a lot more new

1281
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 4: people getting into the game, they're probably still gonna look

1282
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: at this and say, hey, there might be some value there.

1283
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: But really, I think the edge is almost gone now.

1284
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 4: It's like everyone, I mean so used to seeing like

1285
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 4: the big cheat sheets for what players need what, and

1286
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 4: everyone goes and bets it, but it's kind of baked

1287
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 4: in now.

1288
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 5: Yep, Hey this, uh, this Texans Colts game. It feels

1289
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 5: like everybody's in love with the with the Texans here. Uh,

1290
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 5: I guess there's been a flood of money on Houston

1291
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 5: heading to Indianapolis.

1292
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: What what? What? What do you make of this game?

1293
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 5: Like in terms of when you have that much money,

1294
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 5: that much, that much handle going one way at the

1295
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 5: window like it does? Does this make it harder for

1296
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 5: a book to move a line? Because I mean any

1297
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 5: any more of a difference here? I mean you you're

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Speaker 5: you're getting into this number approaching three.

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Speaker 2: I think it's up one and a half.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's still stuck at one with the Texans favorite here,

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Speaker 5: but but how much? How much further can you really

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Speaker 5: go with the Texans here?

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Speaker 2: Before kickoff?

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Speaker 4: I mean, we'll keep going as much as the Sharks

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Speaker 4: tell us to go. And this is a pro bozon

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Speaker 4: shows are aligned on this one. It's all Texans money

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Speaker 4: coming in. It's really surprising to me. I did not

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Speaker 4: think this would go north of one and a half.

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Speaker 4: We just moved to a flat two.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: And you know it's interesting you look at this this

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Speaker 4: matchup earlier in the season, and the Colts dragged the

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Speaker 4: Texans at all games. Yeah, a little surprising to see

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Speaker 4: that they are a road favorites going into a must

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Speaker 4: win the week eighteen. But right now we're definitely rooting

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Speaker 4: for the Colts. Here better Jem.

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Speaker 3: All right, Seamus, what is the seamous special this week?

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Speaker 3: Where are you going for us?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 4: I say this as a bookmaker. These Saturdays where there

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Speaker 4: are one hundred and forty five college basketball night, man,

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Speaker 4: it is there is a lot of opportunity on the board.

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Speaker 4: It is so hard to keep track of a lot

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Speaker 4: of these line moves and see which shark money is

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Speaker 4: the real money. But the one game that sticks out

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Speaker 4: to me is we're going to the Horizon League and

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Speaker 4: we're betting Purdue sport Way minus two against Wright State.

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Speaker 6: I love the Horizon Wayne.

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Speaker 2: Got it.

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Speaker 5: The Mastadons, by the way, that's like Texas A and

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Speaker 5: m Commerce, like you know.

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Speaker 6: Like Christy, Thanks so much, thank you for that one shame.

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Speaker 2: You're the best man.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy the weekend and we'll hopefully profit off.

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Speaker 2: Of g f W the There we go the baby.

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Speaker 3: There he is Seamus McGee the best from Ben MGM

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Speaker 3: does an awesome job. Hey, from awesome to awesome from

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Speaker 3: Seamus to I low with the latest, dear mister Lowen Cron,

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Speaker 3: take it away please.

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Speaker 8: On the Horizon League scoreboard, we start with.

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Speaker 2: We still up.

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Speaker 9: We start with the Masta Dons at the Hefner Soccer

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Speaker 9: Complex on Friday. Actually, I will look that up just

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Speaker 9: to check. I don't even know if it's soccer season

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Speaker 9: in the old Horizon League, but I do know that

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Speaker 9: we actually have some fresh NFL news this morning, with

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Speaker 9: the ESPN reporting Baltimore Ravens defensive tackle Michael Pearce has

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Speaker 9: agreed to a two year, seven point five million dollar

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Speaker 9: extension through the twenty twenty five campaign. Wall In the NBA,

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Speaker 9: on Friday night, the Memphis Grizzlies defeated the Los Angeles

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Speaker 9: Lakers in LA one twenty seven to one thirteen. The

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Speaker 9: Lakers now in a four game losing streak. They have

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Speaker 9: lost ten of thirteen, and after the game, Lebron James

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Speaker 9: captured the state of the Lakers succinctly and accurately, we

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Speaker 9: we just suck right now, in case people out there

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Speaker 9: missed that, we we just suck right now. Meanwhile, in

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Speaker 9: Northern California, the Golden State Warriors defeated the Detroit Pistons

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Speaker 9: one thirteen to one oh nine. However, the Warriors Chris

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Speaker 9: Paul broke his left hand. He will have surgery next week.

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Speaker 9: The Orlando Magic rallied from an eighteen point third quarter

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Speaker 9: deficit to win at Denver one twenty two to one twenty.

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Speaker 9: Paolo ban Caro the first triple double of his career

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Speaker 9: with thirty two points, ten rebounds, and eleven assists. Sacramentos

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Speaker 9: Do Montes Sabonis had his third triple double in four

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Speaker 9: games and their one thirty five to one to thirty

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Speaker 9: win over Toronto Phoenix is at Grayson Allen tied a

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Speaker 9: franchise record with nine three pointers in their one thirteen

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Speaker 9: to ninety seven win over the Miami Heat, and the

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Speaker 9: Indiana Pacers had a franchise record fifty assists in their

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Speaker 9: one fifty to one sixteen win over the Atlanta Hawks.

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Speaker 9: Tyrees Halliburton had eighteen of those assists. The Pacers oddest

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Speaker 9: six game winning streak. Fellas, let the Horizon League talk

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Speaker 9: continue back to you, Thank You.

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Speaker 3: Interesting what Seamus said about what Bros and Joe's aligned

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Speaker 3: on the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all over the Texans in this one.

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Speaker 2: And I mean c. J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud has had a sensational rookie season, late push for

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Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year, potentially on the defensive side. Will

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Speaker 3: Anderson Junior. There's been a lot of chatter about, hey,

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Speaker 3: maybe that's a good bet to make here and think

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Speaker 3: about this Saturday night standalone game had a couple of

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Speaker 3: sacks last week. If he does something significant, he might

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Speaker 3: overtake Jalen Carter of the Eagles to win Defensive Rookie

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Speaker 3: of the Year. The other thing I think to look

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Speaker 3: at is the Colts running game. They like to run it.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor had a really good game last week, but

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Speaker 3: the Texans are number three. That's their run defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so if the Texans are able to slow down the rush,

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Speaker 3: it's all on Minshew. It's Minshee Mania to take him

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Speaker 3: to the Promised Land. So I want to see that

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Speaker 3: Texans run defense is stout yet again because they've done

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Speaker 3: a really good job throughout the season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's not just the the bets on the spread,

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Speaker 5: it's also the player prop CJ. Stroud over ninety nine

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Speaker 5: percent of the bets have come in on the over

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Speaker 5: in terms of his passing yardage total two sixty one

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Speaker 5: and a half. So this passing offense against this Colts

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Speaker 5: passing defense, pretty good matchup. So yeah, a four point swing.

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Speaker 5: Like Jared was saying, you know, to start the show

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Speaker 5: this morning, there's so much volatility in these lines. This

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Speaker 5: went from a point and a half dogs for the

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Speaker 5: Houston Texans to now two point favorites in the game,

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Speaker 5: you know, and it may even boost from here before

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Speaker 5: we get to kickoff, because this is the nightcap tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think based off of what I'm seeing at some

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Speaker 6: of the other shops, and of course we do our

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Speaker 6: shopping at bet MGM, but there are a lot of

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Speaker 6: other sportsbooks that are indicators of price, I think this

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01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 6: is gonna go higher. I think we're gonna see two

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Speaker 6: and a half. And my guess is if we get

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Speaker 6: to three, that's where the cults money will step in

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01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 6: because just like any other game, there's always a price

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Speaker 6: where a professional number grabber. And that's what a lot

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Speaker 6: of these pros are, the professionals that I work with

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Speaker 6: that do this for a living. They and actually one

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01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 6: of the most successful professionals jokes about this every week.

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01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 6: He couldn't name one player on like ninety percent of

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01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 6: the Culture Ball teams thin yet he bets professionally and

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Speaker 6: Culture Ball thousands of dollars every game. And I think

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Speaker 6: it's just right. It's a numbers thing, like they don't

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Speaker 6: care that CJ. Stroud looks fantastic and that Gardner Minshew,

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Speaker 6: you know, might be relied upon to do all these

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Speaker 6: things because the Texans run defense is this dvoa that

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Speaker 6: yards per play, this blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 6: They make the number this it moves to hear. It's

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Speaker 6: a bet. It is surgical, it is cold, it is calculated.

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Speaker 6: It is no emotion involved. And that's how these markets move.

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Speaker 6: And they don't move because the public bets it. They

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01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 6: move because sharp X sharp y professional z. These guys

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Speaker 6: have respected action over the years, they have rapport with

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Speaker 6: the odds makers, they make a bet, the odds move,

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Speaker 6: the line move. So it's a common misconception with these

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Speaker 6: markets that you know, it's us Johnny Q public, we're

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Speaker 6: all betting the Texans tonight.

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Speaker 2: So the lines.

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Speaker 6: No, No, that's not why. It's because some really smart

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Speaker 6: guy in a bunker somewhere saw the line was like, yep,

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Speaker 6: I'm bet Houston, and that'll move the line, and then

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Speaker 6: eventually it'll get the three, and someone's gonna be like, yep,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna bet Indie and then it'll go back down

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Speaker 6: to two and a half. So this one looks like

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Speaker 6: it's being traded in a much wider range than some

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Speaker 6: of the other games that we've seen this week.

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Speaker 3: See I think what you just explained there, Jared, if

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Speaker 3: you two could be emotionless just look purely at data,

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Speaker 3: I think it would help in your justin fields analysis.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I feel like we're being more of the statisticians

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Speaker 5: and you're the one shooting from the hit with like

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Speaker 5: Cay Williams, he's gonna be the best.

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Speaker 3: You know, Nope, nope, nope, yeah, miscins, I'll just say

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Speaker 3: real fast, we got to go. I'm not as like

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is gonna be amazing. No, no, no, listen, listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm not as much that as I am. Justin Field

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Speaker 3: is just a guy. Justin Fields is just a guy

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Speaker 3: and not a difference maker's point.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, And by the way, so far there's more

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Speaker 5: proof of him being just a guy than there is

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Speaker 5: of him being a great quarterback. And I don't think

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Speaker 5: that was ever minor Jared's point. It certainly wasn't mine.

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Speaker 5: My point was the evil you know is better than

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Speaker 5: the evil you don't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, I think that, I think I'm I'm

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Speaker 6: still unsure on the future of Justin Fields. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think it's more about who are you bringing in

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Speaker 6: to replace him? Like and the if Ryan Poles pulls

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Speaker 6: the trigger and Caleb Williams the bus.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 6: You're done. Ryan.

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Speaker 3: You guys are like Garth Algar from Wayne's World where

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Speaker 3: he says where he says, we fear change. That's you, guys,

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Speaker 3: we fear change. It's Rich Weinberger, Fenn State all American.

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Speaker 2: We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No

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Speaker 2: coming up next? Prop it up? Huh, prop bets galore.

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Speaker 3: A lot to choose from maybe a little college football

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Speaker 3: action week teen lots to wet the whistle. If you will,

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Speaker 1: Prop it up player plays ah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, prop bets. No time to waste, Jared, what are

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Speaker 3: you like?

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Speaker 2: Well? I think this.

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Speaker 6: You mentioned it, Brian about the Texans rush defense and

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Speaker 6: just how stout it is so let's kind of game

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Speaker 6: script this Colt Texans game out. Well, we think Houston's

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Speaker 6: the right side based on the line movement, so we

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Speaker 6: think they're gonna have the lead. We think the Texans

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Speaker 6: are going to try to put the ball in Gardner

1510
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 6: Minshew's hands. So where does that lead Jonathan Taylor's numbers, Well,

1511
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 6: they're kind of inflated considering the season he's had, and

1512
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 6: I think we're gonna get Zach Moss back in the

1513
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 6: backfield today at least I think, and I think this

1514
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 6: bet is contingent on that. So Jonathan Taylor under seventeen

1515
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 6: and a half rushing attempts again, the negative game script

1516
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 6: for Indye, Zach Moss being back in the fact that

1517
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 6: the Texans have been pretty good against the run this

1518
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 6: year leads me to believe Indy might put the ball

1519
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 6: in Minshew's hands in this game. So under seventeen and

1520
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 6: a half rushing attempts for j T.

1521
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stay with that game as well. Thirty three

1522
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 5: and a half passing attempts for Gardner Minshew. I think

1523
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 5: the Cults are going to be chasing points, which means

1524
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 5: that they're gonna have to put the ball in the

1525
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 5: air a lot more. I also really like Mason Rudolph

1526
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 5: taking the over of the one to eighty seven and

1527
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 5: a half passing yardage. It's not as hard to throw

1528
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 5: in the rain as people think. It's more difficult to

1529
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 5: throw in the win. So if it's just rain, expect

1530
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 5: the Steelers to throw the ball round with Mason who's

1531
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 5: been or Rudolph, I should say, who's been a really

1532
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 5: accurate passer so far in the games he started? And

1533
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 5: I like Justin Tucker taking over the five and a

1534
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 5: half kicking points in this game because the Ravens I

1535
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 5: think will get within his range, but they'll fail to

1536
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 5: get into the red zone, which means we're going to

1537
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 5: see a lot of field goals and a lot of

1538
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:46,879
Speaker 5: settling for the Ravens offense.

1539
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 3: By the way, how far are we from kickers being

1540
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 3: rested in situations?

1541
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: I hope never.

1542
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering if we're approaching that territory or not.

1543
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Mike Evans, Tampa receiver over sixty

1544
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 3: two and a half receiving yards. This dude just crushes

1545
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers if they need to win to win

1546
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 3: the division, get into the playoffs, So I'm gonna go

1547
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: with Mike, who's had shaker another great season. I also

1548
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 3: I would keep my eye on Tyrod Taylor. That's how

1549
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 3: he pronounces it. That's according to the Sunday Night Football announcements, right,

1550
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 3: he goes Tyrod now, So I'm looking at his rushing

1551
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 3: yardage twenty six and a half against this Eagles defense.

1552
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 3: Tyrod after what should have been a two point conversion

1553
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 3: last week against the Rams and possibly a win. I

1554
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 3: think he's laser focused this game. I think there are

1555
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: yards to be gained with him running it. So I'm

1556
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 3: gonna take Tyrod over twenty six and a half as well.

1557
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 2: I love that.

1558
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 6: I don't have a whole lot else propwise, but I'll

1559
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 6: give you a little nugget. I think for the championship game, Yeah,

1560
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 6: I think Michigan's gonna run the ball a lot, a

1561
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 6: lot a lot. Keith Panics on the sidelines, I don't

1562
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 6: think we I don't know if there are prop numbers

1563
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:05,599
Speaker 6: out yet.

1564
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 3: They probably are, but there are.

1565
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would go over on all the Michigan rushing

1566
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 6: yards guys, including our pal JJ McCarthy who's always curiously low,

1567
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 6: and we're not worried about the sacks. You know why

1568
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 6: Michigan doesn't throw it a whole lot and they get

1569
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 6: it out really quickly. I think that's why I'm safe

1570
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 6: with McCarty.

1571
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 3: You know what, Syd, Let's bridge these props to the

1572
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,839
Speaker 3: college props right around the corner. National Championship Game.

1573
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: Breakdown on the way.

1574
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 3: Oh, what's going on, Hope, you're enjoying your Saturday little

1575
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,520
Speaker 3: NFL double header.

1576
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: For you to uh get you all set for the

1577
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 2: full weekend.

1578
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 3: Here to ball buffet, huh full Sunday slate and then

1579
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 3: we get the National Championship game on Monday. Let's dive

1580
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 3: into that fellas number two Washington against number one Michigan

1581
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 3: here and the line is intriguing, right you look at

1582
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 3: the wolver Raines favored by four and a half. The

1583
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: total is fifty six and a half. First thing I

1584
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: think of is, and you alluded to this at the

1585
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 3: end of last hour, Jared Michigan running the ball. Oh yeah,

1586
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 3: that's why I lean to the under. I like the

1587
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 3: under in this one because I think that Michigan they're

1588
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 3: gonna do that. They're gonna stick with the running game.

1589
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna have enough success where they keep

1590
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 3: relying on that. And listen, I love Washington's offense. They

1591
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: can put points on the board in a hurry. But

1592
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 3: I think when you shrink the game, I mean, fifty

1593
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 3: six and a half for a college total sounds low,

1594
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 3: super low, But you start thinking about the potential final score,

1595
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 3: like thirty to twenty four, we're still on the under,

1596
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And with Michigan running the

1597
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 3: ball so often, I think it's gonna shrink this game.

1598
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: I like the under here.

1599
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 5: I do too, I mean, and it makes me nervous

1600
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 5: that we're all in consensus. But I think Michigan has

1601
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 5: a knack for shortening games. If I'm the Wolverines, I

1602
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 5: look that this is died in the wall. This is

1603
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 5: And to use the team colors like this is like

1604
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 5: trying to take like a dark Navy shirt and say, yeah,

1605
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 5: with a little bleach, we could get all of the

1606
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 5: color out of that jersey.

1607
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: No you can't, No you can't. It's still gonna look weird.

1608
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 5: So if all of a sudden, Michigan somehow decided to

1609
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 5: like change everything they do and go pass happy, it

1610
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 5: would be an awful decision because all they've been. All

1611
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 5: they've been is a rushing team with a stout enough

1612
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 5: defense that you know, you score twenty one twenty seven points,

1613
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 5: you're gonna win most ballgames. And it's actually Alabama last

1614
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 5: week that was exactly what happened. They scored twenty seven.

1615
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 5: I know it went to ot but and they get

1616
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 5: the win. That's just what Michigan football looks like. So

1617
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 5: I think they are gonna try to shorten the game,

1618
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:57,440
Speaker 5: which means the underplays.

1619
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1620
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 6: I love this game. I love games that have contrasting styles.

1621
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 6: Tough handicap, but I love the optics of it. And

1622
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 6: it's also helpful when we get to this point in

1623
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 6: the season and I only have to handicap one game.

1624
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 6: It allows the deep dive to be just a little

1625
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 6: bit deeper. Right, So here we go. Michigan's gonna run

1626
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 6: the ball, guys. Sixty two percent of their run plays

1627
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 6: this year have been in neutral situations. I mean, it's

1628
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 6: just they love to run the ball and they don't

1629
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 6: care if the box is stacked. Washington's gonna put eight

1630
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 6: guys in the box. They're going to force JJ McCarthy

1631
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 6: to throw. But I don't think Michigan cares much why

1632
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 6: because they've run it into a heavy box on seventy

1633
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 6: one percent of their running plays this year. Because everybody

1634
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 6: knows Michigan wants to run the ball, so they are

1635
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 6: able to overcome what has been I think if you

1636
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 6: go back and look at the numbers this year for

1637
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 6: Michigan's running game, it hasn't been very sexy. Blake corm

1638
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 6: and Donovan Edwards have kind of been a step below

1639
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 6: where they were last year. I think the passing game

1640
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 6: being a little bit deflated. They don't have that game

1641
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 6: breaking guy like they had last year with Bell, and

1642
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 6: it's just it's kind of a different vibe for this

1643
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 6: Michigan offense this year. It's been kind of three four

1644
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 6: yards in a cloud of dust. They've relied a lot

1645
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 6: more on their defense, and their defense is very good.

1646
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 6: I think Michigan is going to want to control the clock,

1647
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 6: run the football, and we'll see how much the offensive

1648
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 6: coordinator Shure own More trusts JJ McCarthy to throw it.

1649
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 6: Because let's be honest, the first pass of the game

1650
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 6: was almost intercepted. It should have been intercepted. Michigan got

1651
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 6: very lucky in that spot, and then pretty much all

1652
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 6: of his throws were dink and dunk right. He attempted

1653
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 6: twenty seven passes against Alabama, nineteen of them where nine

1654
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 6: yards are short. He only attempted one pass twenty or

1655
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 6: more yards down the field. It was incomplete. So the

1656
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,560
Speaker 6: game plan for Michigan's very simple. Run the ball, and

1657
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 6: I think it should be able to run it pretty

1658
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 6: effectively because Washington has struggled this year in that category,

1659
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 6: and that side of the ball, to me, seems pretty simple.

1660
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 6: The other side of the ball is where things get

1661
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 6: really complicated because Michigan's defense, I mean, it was like

1662
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 6: a hot knife through butter with that Alabama offensive line.

1663
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 6: Washington's offensive line is elite. They are top ten in

1664
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 6: pressure eight. They've got both tackle that are kind of

1665
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 6: bookends rosen Garten and fought now only two combined pressures

1666
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 6: allowed against Texas, who has a really good defensive line.

1667
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 6: It was the interior of the Washington offensive line that

1668
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 6: struggled a little bit. Michigan can take advantage of that

1669
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 6: because they are very good at alignment and they're really

1670
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 6: good at bringing the A gap and the B gap blitzy.

1671
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 6: So I think this is a chess match. Washington's offense Pennis.

1672
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 6: How does he kind of maneuver these three elite receivers

1673
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 6: around a Michigan defense that can be had a little

1674
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 6: bit in the secondary, but very stacked up front on

1675
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 6: the other side of the ball, Very very simple. Michigan

1676
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 6: run left right, center, Blake corm Donoin Edwards, JJ McCarty.

1677
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 6: Don't turn it over, and I think Michigan wins this game.

1678
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 3: They might, but I like the points because if you

1679
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 3: look at Washington and what you just explained, Jared, they

1680
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 3: don't allow heat on Pennix Junior. They've only given up

1681
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 3: eleven sacks all season long, and they won the Joe

1682
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 3: Moore Award. That's the best offensive line in the country.

1683
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: You compare that to last week what we saw Michigan

1684
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 3: do and their defensive line is very very good. But

1685
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 3: what they did against Alabama, I don't see them doing

1686
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 3: that against Washington at all. I don't see them having

1687
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 3: the same success with the pass rush. And even if

1688
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 3: they do, I don't expect Penix Junior to be like

1689
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: Ray Charles Slash Jalen Milroe, who had no feel at

1690
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 3: all for the blitz for the rush that Penix Junior

1691
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 3: with those receivers, and that feel he's just not going

1692
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 3: to let the pass rush get to him, even if

1693
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 3: it is getting the better of Washington's offensive line, which

1694
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 3: is doubtful. So I just I don't see Michigan having

1695
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 3: the same type of success defensively. And when you're talking

1696
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 3: about four and a half points, talk about a team

1697
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 3: that's built to come from behind, and like, worst case scenario,

1698
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 3: we're looking for a back door cover fine with four

1699
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 3: and a half with Penix Junior and that offense. So

1700
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: I would sign up for them that part of it,

1701
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 3: for sure. And I'm interested to see both matchups there

1702
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 3: because if the flip happens, if Washington is the team

1703
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 3: that gets up, if Washington is the team that has

1704
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 3: a lead in the third quarter, in the fourth quarter,

1705
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 3: they're up by double digits. Like you just explained, Jared,

1706
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 3: Michigan wants to run it and run it and run

1707
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 3: it and run it. If they're forced to alter that

1708
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 3: and they need to throw it, then what does that

1709
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 3: look like. And it's not to say that JJ McCarthy

1710
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 3: can't do it, but that is not the formula for

1711
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 3: success Michigan wants to have.

1712
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, I'll say this about this game,

1713
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 5: and I haven't made my decision on you know who

1714
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 5: I like in terms of a side, definitely favoring the

1715
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,759
Speaker 5: under which I guess means that I really am fevering Michigan.

1716
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,560
Speaker 5: But the reality is Washington didn't come out of that

1717
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 5: game unscathed. Back got injured late in the game in

1718
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 5: the semifinal, and then you had their corner late in

1719
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 5: the game, he left the field with an injury. I

1720
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 5: don't know if I don't know if he's still considered

1721
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 5: injured or if it was just a game decision where

1722
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 5: he needed a miss a play, but a little more

1723
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 5: banged up than Michigan, at least in appearance. But one

1724
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 5: thing about Washington is they were the cardiac kids all season.

1725
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 2: Close games. They want a ton of them.

1726
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 5: In fact, they broke an FBS record for the number

1727
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 5: of consecutive one score or it might not have been consecutive,

1728
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 5: it might have just been one score game.

1729
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, ten straight wins by ten points or less, their

1730
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 6: longest streak and d one history. It's incredible. Actually, it's unbelievable.

1731
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 5: And that's coaching, and obviously that's Pennix Junior having the

1732
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,520
Speaker 5: confidence and competence in late game situations.

1733
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 2: So I kind of feel like this.

1734
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 5: I feel like, if you are of the mind that

1735
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 5: this is going to be a close game, take the points.

1736
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 2: Like go with the Huskies if you if you feel

1737
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 2: like it's.

1738
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 5: Gonna be a blowout one way or another, I would

1739
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 5: lean more Michigan though greedy. Yeah, so I'm still undecided,

1740
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 5: But that's that's kind of my logic heading into where

1741
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna place place my money on this.

1742
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think nip and tuck. You favor Washington. I

1743
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 6: think blowout Michigan leans on them in the running game

1744
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 6: and just kind of, you know it, just kind of

1745
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 6: leans and lean and eventually the Dan burse. The intangibles

1746
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 6: of this game are intriguing to But to follow up

1747
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 6: on your point really quick, Rich, Jabar Mohammed's the corner

1748
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 6: you're talking about. He is an and I know when

1749
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 6: we think of Washington, we don't think of defense. But

1750
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 6: Jabar Mohammed's an NFL caliber corner. Seven targets against Texas,

1751
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 6: only allowed three receptions two yards after the catch with

1752
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 6: one PBu. This is against a Texas receiving group that

1753
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 6: has stars all over at the field. I mean, maybe

1754
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 6: arguably one of the best receiving groups in the country

1755
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 6: outside of Washington. So I just think that type of

1756
01:27:54,760 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 6: player is you gotta have him on the field. I man,

1757
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,639
Speaker 6: the more I dive into this game, the more trouble

1758
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 6: I find with fading Washington because I love the coach

1759
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 6: they have, the coaching edgend of this game. Make no

1760
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 6: doubt Kalen de Borr is elite. I mean, he won

1761
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 6: fourth straight national championship the NAI level. Everywhere he goes,

1762
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 6: people win. He's twenty seven and five ats is an

1763
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 6: underdog over the last five ten years or so, throughout Mischigon,

1764
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 6: throughout his time at Washington, throughout his time at Fresno State.

1765
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 6: I mean, he is a guy that just gets results.

1766
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 6: But I think he is at a severe disadvantage here defensively,

1767
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 6: And that's where I really struggle with this game is

1768
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 6: JJ McCarty is going to be able to do whatever

1769
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 6: he wants to do in the pocket because Washington, unlike Alabama,

1770
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 6: does not generate enough pressure. That is the weakness outside

1771
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 6: the top one hundred pressure right generated big step down

1772
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 6: in class. Michigan's offensive line just went up against two

1773
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 6: of the best pass rushers in college football, Turner and

1774
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 6: Braswell in Alabama and they held up pretty well. Now

1775
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 6: you get a Washington front that is just not going

1776
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 6: to put a lot of pressure on JJ McCarty. The

1777
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 6: offensive line for Michigan should be able to get pushed,

1778
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 6: They should be able to sustain drives. The play action

1779
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 6: game should be there for McCarty. The question is how

1780
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 6: aggressive is sure own More going to be? Do you

1781
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 6: trust McCarty because the situation is going to call for it.

1782
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 6: You're going to be in second and six and third

1783
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 6: and two all game long. What do you do with

1784
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 6: those opportunities is going to be how this game is

1785
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 6: kind of playing out.

1786
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 3: I can't wait. I call this a rubber band game,

1787
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 3: where you know, if you have a rubber band on

1788
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 3: your wrist and you stretch it out like it's going back,

1789
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 3: it's not gonna stay out there like that, you know.

1790
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: What I mean?

1791
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 3: That's how I see Washington and Michigan. I don't see

1792
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 3: a blowout on either side. I mean, if Michigan gets up, man,

1793
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 3: that's a dangerous Washington team coming from behind. And the

1794
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 3: flip side. I don't love Michigan. They're not built to

1795
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,759
Speaker 3: come from behind, but styles make fights against this stinky

1796
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 3: Washington defense. For the most part, they can come back

1797
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 3: and make it a closer game back against Bama. Yeah, absolutely, well, yeah,

1798
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 3: and that never got completely out of hand. But again,

1799
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 3: I think against Washington's defense, that could be the case.

1800
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see if it would be so fitting

1801
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 3: if the Pac twelve, which is going away as we

1802
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 3: know it, they finally get a team that not only

1803
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 3: makes it to the College Football Playoff, but wins the

1804
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,560
Speaker 3: whole freaking thing, and then it's like, oh, yeah, that

1805
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 3: team's in the Big Ten. Actually the next year with

1806
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 3: one I ask a.

1807
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 6: Question real quick, does this Washington team remind you of

1808
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 6: a more evolved TCU of last year where they just

1809
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 6: win close games? But they obviously had a much better

1810
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 6: offense than TCU did last year. But it's ironic to

1811
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 6: the same color scheme, But does it give you Washington

1812
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,919
Speaker 6: TCU vibes with how just kind of team of destiny

1813
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 6: they feel?

1814
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing that falls off is the sixty

1815
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 3: five to seven thing. You know.

1816
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear what you're saying, right, Yah, Yeah, we're

1817
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 2: not on that trajectory. But but you know why. Okay,

1818
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: So the only difference, the biggest difference is the.

1819
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 6: Quarterback yes, like that is a mass of evolution there.

1820
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, when when you look at Penix Junior and who

1821
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 5: he is and what he's meant to this program and

1822
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 5: to the game.

1823
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 2: Of football at the college level. What a story. I mean,

1824
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 2: the TCU quarterback and I'm blanking on his name for

1825
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 2: whatever reason right now. Oh you think you, Doug.

1826
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 6: You had some dudes on that offense too. They had Johnson,

1827
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 6: they had Demercato the running back. They had guys on offense.

1828
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 6: They just didn't have Penix.

1829
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 5: They just didn't have Penix, like a guy who who

1830
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 5: you knew, you knew you were going to be able

1831
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 5: to count on in the big situations, Doug.

1832
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 2: And it was sort of fine.

1833
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 5: It felt like he was discovering himself along the course

1834
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 5: of the season. Was like yeah, like like he was

1835
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 5: like like the question can he do it? Turned into

1836
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 5: can he do it? And then back to can he

1837
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 5: do it? It was really it was an interesting season

1838
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 5: for TCU. And it feels way more consistent because you

1839
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 5: have a deft hand at quarterback with the Huskies this year.

1840
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 2: A couple of props to consider and.

1841
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, what he got on the prop market there?

1842
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, what do we got.

1843
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:00,799
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Michigan running backs. Okay, Blake korum

1844
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 3: is at one four and a half at bed MGM.

1845
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna run it a lot.

1846
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 3: That's high, okay, And I can't help but go back

1847
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:13,719
Speaker 3: to last week, like twenty five of Blake Koram's rushing

1848
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 3: yards against bamb but we're in overtime. He picked up

1849
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 3: every yard in overtime, So I.

1850
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 6: Know I wouldn't bet a lot of overs this week. Yeah,

1851
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 6: I think I would stick to like the lower number

1852
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 6: guys and try to like.

1853
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 3: How about this, here's a lower numbered guy, and I

1854
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 3: know he's taken a dramatic step back from last year.

1855
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 3: But Donovan Edwards, the Michigan running back, twenty seven and

1856
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 3: a half like low, it's low, and you can think

1857
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 3: Michigan is just going to keep running it, running it

1858
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 3: and running it. You saw it with Texas. Texas's backup

1859
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 3: running back got there easily.

1860
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 6: Maybe here's another ring with ready acc officiating crew. Apparently

1861
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 6: this crew is called the highest rate of pass interference

1862
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 6: in college football all season?

1863
01:32:58,920 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 2: Wow?

1864
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 6: Does that change your mind on how this game might.

1865
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 2: Be absolutely advantage Washington? Yeah?

1866
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 6: Absolutely, But also frankly Michigan should take advantage of that too,

1867
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 6: because the Washington secondary, as I said, it's one guy

1868
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 6: and the nobody else. Michigan's got a couple dudes back there,

1869
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 6: but they can be beat Wallace and Johnson another two

1870
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 6: or starting corners. That scares That's what scares me on

1871
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 6: the under in this game. I was really having on

1872
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 6: the under this game until I saw that ACC officiating

1873
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 6: crew and I was like, oh man, I love it.

1874
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 3: That's when you know you're diving deep.

1875
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 6: That's the beauty of I can really focus and in

1876
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 6: credit a lot of the great podcasters that I listened

1877
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 6: to do a really good job of this stuff. And

1878
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 6: it's it's a lot of fun. There's a fun game.

1879
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 6: It's a fun game to break down it really is.

1880
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 3: That was beautiful right there. I love it because I

1881
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 3: sometimes I love the weeds of ball and it's I

1882
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 3: love the under. Oh wait, ACC officiating, pass interference penalties.

1883
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody, but makes sense run the ball.

1884
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 6: And also right too deep. You play Panics too deep

1885
01:33:58,280 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 6: like they're playing mahomes. You know, you don't let any

1886
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 6: one behind you. Michigan's gonna play it that way. Yeah,

1887
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 6: especially if there's no running game with Dylan Johnson out

1888
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 6: right right.

1889
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 3: That's the other part, like, maybe if you don't have

1890
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 3: Dylan Johnson certainly at his normal, you know, peak abilities there,

1891
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 3: there's no way he's gonna be an hundred percent that

1892
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 3: can affect you big time in the red zone. Maybe

1893
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,840
Speaker 3: we're talking a couple of field goals instead of touchdowns

1894
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 3: and that helps the under as death.

1895
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 6: Of an over is that this is there's so many

1896
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 6: interesting parts about this game.

1897
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 2: There's a I love this one.

1898
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 5: There's a part of me with the Blakekorm rushing totals

1899
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 5: where if you can find a book you know, bet

1900
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 5: MGM or otherwise that gives you the receiving plus rushing total.

1901
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 5: Because in a game like this where you know, I mean,

1902
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:46,919
Speaker 5: if at any point Michigan is chasing points, if Washington,

1903
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 5: especially early in the game, maybe they jump out to

1904
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 5: a seven to nothing lead or something like that, or

1905
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 5: three nothing and Michigan starts feeling the pressure or three

1906
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 5: point lead in the second half, all of a sudden,

1907
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 5: you're gonna have JJ M McCarthy throwing the football and

1908
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 5: the screen game is gonna get activated. So if you're

1909
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 5: balking at the rushing total because you don't know if

1910
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 5: mission's going to be completely in control of the game.

1911
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 5: Then pair rushing with receiving with Blake Korum and and

1912
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 5: that feels like the safer bat.

1913
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 3: Hey just super fast. One one quick little nugget here.

1914
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 3: I think that Michigan is getting a little bit too

1915
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 3: much juice from what they did last week against the

1916
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 3: bigger brand name. There's no doubt that Alabama.

1917
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 6: Think they celebrated too hard last week.

1918
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 3: Frankly, I'm just saying they beat Alabama, they beat Nick Saban.

1919
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 3: We know Texas is a brand. They're not close to

1920
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 3: what Bama has been the last fifteen years, right with

1921
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 3: with Nick Saban, But you look at that game against Bama,

1922
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 3: the Blake Korum fourth down conversion. What was Bama doing?

1923
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 3: No one was even close to that guy. What was

1924
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe doing the whole game? What was their center

1925
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 3: doing all game long?

1926
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 4: Right?

1927
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 6: With this problems on the snap all year?

1928
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 3: That happened too, But right, don't you think that this

1929
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:01,799
Speaker 3: line is inflated with four and a half partially because

1930
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 3: of what happened last week?

1931
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 2: I do. I love the way you're talking Brown though,

1932
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 2: I love it too.

1933
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 6: I'm here here the final point about the pricing. I

1934
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Speaker 6: think it's really hard to price Washington this year, based

1935
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 6: on what I'm hearing from a lot of the people,

1936
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Speaker 6: Like Tros, Washington's been like the first six weeks of

1937
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 6: the year, they look like the twenty nineteen LSU Tigers

1938
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Speaker 6: with Joe Burrow. Then they were almost losing to Stanford

1939
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 6: in Arizona State right right, and then they were a

1940
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 6: double digit dog in the PAC twelve title game. Like

1941
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 6: their pricing has been all over the map this year,

1942
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 6: So very hard to find that kind of sweet spot.

1943
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Speaker 6: I think with the Huskies that is some reason. That's

1944
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Speaker 6: your point. I think that's why Michigan's getting a little

1945
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Speaker 6: bit more love maybe.

1946
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Speaker 3: Man what Washington loves that underdog role. They've come through

1947
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Speaker 3: time and time and time again.

1948
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Speaker 6: So is the public.

1949
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Speaker 3: Though I'm gonna back them.

1950
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Speaker 2: Sorry, I know you are.

1951
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Speaker 3: That's okay, That's not bad that we've got Rich Roiinberger

1952
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Speaker 3: Penn State, all American NFL veteran. We've got Jared Smith

1953
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Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst. I think I might have heard Jack

1954
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 3: Bot a little bit.

1955
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Speaker 6: He was so he was dreaming during that segment, and

1956
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Speaker 6: little dreams you might have heard it. It was actually

1957
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Speaker 6: kind of cute.

1958
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Speaker 3: Yeah, dreaming of the back door cover right there.

1959
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Speaker 2: I'm Brian though.

1960
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Speaker 3: Coming up next, this team is still getting way too

1961
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Speaker 3: much love.

1962
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Speaker 2: I might get some pushback.

1963
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1970
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Speaker 3: you score a reward. Okay, fellas. The team that is

1971
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:50,759
Speaker 3: getting way too much love still the Buffalo Bills.

1972
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Speaker 6: Oh boy, okay, big game for your Dolphins this week.

1973
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Speaker 3: Huge massive. But here's the thing, man, I'm hearing all this,

1974
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 3: I'm reading all this stuff. I see power rankings. Bills

1975
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 3: are as high as third. I'm like, oh, really, the

1976
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 3: team that might not even make the playoffs third right now?

1977
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy, right, They've won four straight. But it's like, okay,

1978
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 3: they barely beat the Easton Stick Chargers, who gave up

1979
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 3: sixty three points the week prior to the Raiders. They

1980
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 3: barely beat Bailey Zappi and the Patriots. They won by

1981
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,559
Speaker 3: a possession when they intercepted him three times.

1982
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 2: They've barely beaten the.

1983
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 3: Patriots and the Chargers, and they're three in the power

1984
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 3: rankings and might not even qualify for the postseason.

1985
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 2: That that's just too high for me. Man.

1986
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 3: Listen, Buffalo, we know they're plus side, we know Josh

1987
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 3: Allen is special, we know what they bring to the table.

1988
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Speaker 3: But it isn't all good, right, And the conversation leads

1989
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 3: you to believe as if it is all good, and

1990
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Speaker 3: I just I don't buy it.

1991
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 2: I think they're absolute frauds.

1992
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:07,759
Speaker 3: But right now, uh, they're in the driver's seat according

1993
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 3: to most people that you hear from in this matchup

1994
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:10,959
Speaker 3: against the Dolphins.

1995
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Speaker 5: I look at the Dolphins as being one of those

1996
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 5: teams kind of similar to the Bills, where it's a

1997
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 5: it's a lot of bluster, and I don't know if

1998
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:27,040
Speaker 5: I necessarily trust everything that everybody else trusts. I mean

1999
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Speaker 5: that that uh mid November statistic where they were six

2000
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Speaker 5: and zero against teams with records under five hundred and

2001
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 5: zero to three against teams above five hundred that that

2002
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 5: kind of feels like who the Dolphins actually are, you know?

2003
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 5: They they kind of feel like a team that when

2004
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 5: push push comes to shove, they're gonna underperform.

2005
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 2: But but overall that's a sexy looking offense. I mean

2006
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 2: they've built Mike.

2007
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 5: To give full credit to coach McDaniel, he has built

2008
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,560
Speaker 5: the best mouse trap in the NFL. I think it

2009
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 5: even trumps that of Kyle Shanahan. Like with with a

2010
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 5: slightly more dynamic quarterback, I think the Miami Dolphins would

2011
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 5: have would have an offense that I it honestly wouldn't

2012
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 5: matter what you do defensively, they will be able to

2013
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 5: pile up points on absolutely everybody, and it would they

2014
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 5: would be unstoppable. But look, you can't have everything in

2015
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 5: this league, and they have Tua, and Tua does have

2016
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 5: some decided disadvantages when he's going against better defenses.

2017
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 2: He has a hard time throwing over the middle short

2018
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: because he's not a big guy.

2019
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 5: He has a hard time getting out of the pocket

2020
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 5: and evading the rush because he's not the fastest guy.

2021
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 5: So I think in the vacuum, like when we look

2022
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 5: at these two games, everything he said about the Bills

2023
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 5: is true, but there's a lot of truth on the

2024
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 5: side of the Dolphins that tell that leads me to

2025
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:56,560
Speaker 5: believe that they could choke this one off in the

2026
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 5: final game of the season and give the Bills the

2027
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 5: title and the East.

2028
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 6: I'm not a very religious person, but I will be

2029
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 6: praying to the football gods that Justin Fields ends up

2030
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 6: on the Dolphins somehow.

2031
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 3: Jesus in your life here. That's what's going on with

2032
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 3: just kidding.

2033
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 6: Just kidding two is the best. So let's just start

2034
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 6: with the basic, basic line analysis here. Back in Week five,

2035
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 6: Buffalo at home was a three point favorite in this game.

2036
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 6: Now we flash forward thirteen weeks, they're a three point

2037
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 6: road favorite now, and that just shows you how much

2038
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 6: the market has flipped on these two teams. And as

2039
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 6: much as I want to get on board with the

2040
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 6: value play with Miami, because make no mistake about it,

2041
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 6: if you are a numbers first better, you're taking the

2042
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 6: points with Miami. Here, I just told you like they

2043
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,719
Speaker 6: were three the same teams, same pretty much same personnel,

2044
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 6: with the exception of a few guys from Miami being

2045
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 6: out three point favorite form Buffalo at home. You put

2046
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 6: them on the road, they're still a three point favorite.

2047
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 6: It doesn't really add up to me. So Miami is

2048
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,560
Speaker 6: the value. But then you look at some of the

2049
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 6: guys that aren't playing for Miami and the list is

2050
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 6: getting long. Most Dirt Wattle questionable. I think those guys play,

2051
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 6: but how effective Then on the defensive side, Howard Chubb,

2052
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 6: we'll see about. The other linebacker was the free safety

2053
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 6: Hollin who's less Thane hundred percent, but he is playing

2054
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 6: Baker the linebacker on I are again, these are key

2055
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 6: defensive players for a team that I think, And Brian,

2056
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:28,560
Speaker 6: you know this is your squad, so you tell me

2057
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 6: if I'm wrong or not. Like right now, Miami, at

2058
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 6: least before those guys got hurt, were they skewing more

2059
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 6: like a defensive team with Fangio and that secondary right, Like,

2060
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 6: I know Miami's offense. I love the coach. I love

2061
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel. I mean more coaches need to be like him,

2062
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,440
Speaker 6: wear their hearts on their sleeve, be open and honest, communicate.

2063
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 6: But I just I think it's more about the attrition

2064
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 6: than Miami than anything else in this game. Do they

2065
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:55,840
Speaker 6: have enough juice defensively to slow down Josh Allen. If

2066
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 6: they do, and if Fanjo draws up a good scheme,

2067
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 6: this is gonna be I think a nip and tug game.

2068
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 6: But I just I don't know what they have left

2069
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 6: on that side of the ball because of all of

2070
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 6: the snaps and the production that they've lost defensively.

2071
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 3: That's why I think the spot is really interesting because

2072
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,759
Speaker 3: if you go back, Jared to the earlier matchup the Dolphins,

2073
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 3: it's a three point line. As you mentioned the week prior.

2074
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 3: That's when the Dolphins hung seventy on the Broncos and

2075
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,759
Speaker 3: they were the it team and it was Miami, Miami, Miami,

2076
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 3: high flying offense, and they got smacked by four touchdowns.

2077
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2078
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 3: Now, not expecting the Dolphins win by four touchdowns tomorrow night,

2079
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,560
Speaker 3: although that would be great. I'd sign up for that.

2080
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 3: But that's why the spot is interesting because it is

2081
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 3: nothing but rose pedals and bouquets for the Buffalo Bills

2082
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 3: right now. Right you look at what Buffalo has done,

2083
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 3: They've won four straight. You look at Josh Allen, he

2084
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:53,759
Speaker 3: has carved up the Dolphins. He's nine to two against

2085
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 3: them with thirty one touchdown passes and five picks. He's

2086
01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 3: been sensational against Miami. You just did tailed that, Jared.

2087
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 3: The Dolphins are banged up, you rattled off all those names.

2088
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 3: Last week Miami lost fifty six to nineteen. We interviewed

2089
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 3: Jamus McGee from bet MGM. He's like only one way

2090
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 3: traffic on Buffalo, and yet the points spread has ticked

2091
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 3: in the Dolphins direction.

2092
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 6: Miami's the right side, There's no doubt about it. I

2093
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 6: just I don't know if I can get there.

2094
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just stinks, is all I'm saying.

2095
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, it stinks. This line stinks to high Heaven, no

2096
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 6: doubt it does.

2097
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 3: And I think when there's all that momentum, and how

2098
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 3: could the Dolphins win this? Like it's you pound the

2099
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 3: rock and you have Tyreek Hill, who was an MVP candidate,

2100
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 3: have a special game, and you're cooking with grease all

2101
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know what I'm saying. So I

2102
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 3: want to see if the Dolphins defense can can do

2103
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 3: their part because they've been goofy this year and they're

2104
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 3: missing a lot of dudes, a lot.

2105
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I just struggle with you know some

2106
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 5: of when you look at the schedule, because you when

2107
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 5: you talked about that fifty six nineteen drubbing they took.

2108
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 5: I opened up their schedule again and had to look,

2109
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 5: and it's it's just the Dolphins are at a stage

2110
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 5: in their development process that I think is very important,

2111
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 5: and that stage is they're beating all the teams they

2112
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:17,600
Speaker 5: should beat, and and many of them resoundingly, Like the

2113
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 5: Raiders take care of business Jets twice, no problem, Commanders,

2114
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:24,599
Speaker 5: it was a boat race. But they go against more

2115
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 5: veteran defensive minded head coaches like Rabel or John Harbaugh

2116
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 5: with the defense that Baltimore has, or in this case,

2117
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 5: the Bills, who's always always with Sean McDermott, going to

2118
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 5: have a very difficult You're gonna have a difficult day

2119
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 5: facing them defensively, and their special teams are usually hemmed

2120
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 5: up pretty tight. It's those are the games they struggle in.

2121
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 5: And so I know this this spread looks wonky, but

2122
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 5: if if like you know, I mean, you're giving me

2123
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 5: two roads and I can only take one fork, I

2124
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 5: gotta go the way the Bills because I just don't

2125
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 5: trust the Dolphins in these moments yet.

2126
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 6: What what are the scenari and I wish I don't

2127
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 6: have them off the top of my head, what are

2128
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 6: the scenarios that need to take place during the day

2129
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 6: on Sunday or I guess on Saturday Buffalo to put

2130
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 6: Buffalo in the must win.

2131
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's Jacksonville, right, Yeah, it's Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh and

2132
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 3: also Jacksonville teams. If both teams win, if the Steelers

2133
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 3: be the Ravens, if Jacksonville wins against Tennessee, then Buffalo

2134
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 3: has to win or.

2135
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 2: They're freaking out. See ya.

2136
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 6: So I guess you kind of like, if you want

2137
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 6: to bet this Buffalo Miami game before kickoff, you need

2138
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 6: to handicap those two games because those two games will

2139
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 6: impact the mindset. For example, if you're the Bills and

2140
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:47,640
Speaker 6: you're sitting around tomorrow before the game watching everything play out,

2141
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 6: Let's just say the Steelers win. So the Steelers win.

2142
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 6: It's Sunday morning. Buffalo wakes up, it's Games of Miami.

2143
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 6: So they're in some random hotel in South Beach and

2144
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 6: they're watching the Jacksonville game, and all of a sudden,

2145
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 6: Jacksonville is pulling ahead and Jacksonville looks like they're gonna

2146
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 6: win it. My guess is this line gets back up

2147
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 6: to three because I think you'll see some Buffalo money

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Speaker 6: come in just based on the motivation, and at that

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Speaker 6: point is probably where the big dollars, if there are

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Speaker 6: big dollars out there in the market for the Dolphins,

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Speaker 6: will come in at three. But so I think if

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Speaker 6: you like Miami, you wait till tomorrow. If you like Buffalo,

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Speaker 6: you probably should take that. You probably should like to go.

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Speaker 6: Right here's the thing, I got a question to throw

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Speaker 6: at you, guys. Yeah, in just a minute.

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Speaker 3: Here first though, let's weave in Isaac Lohenkron the one

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Speaker 3: and only food this meal, if you will, he is

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Speaker 3: the dressing of your choice. If you've got a salad

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Speaker 3: and you're like, I could go for some Italian dressing

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: That's I low right now with the latest you take

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Speaker 2: it away.

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Speaker 9: I love, thank you, much appreciated. You know, Rams dressing,

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01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 9: Italian dressing. Maybe the dessert side pumpkin pie, and I

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Speaker 9: actually do have a did you say no to punkin pie?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy?

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01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 3: I'm not a big on pumpkin pie. But what I

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Speaker 3: was really saying is, I don't know if you guys,

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Speaker 3: I know, if you guys know this on the West Coast,

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Speaker 3: Western dressing, huh?

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Speaker 2: You get it?

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Speaker 3: Here in the heartland of the Midwest. It's like French dressing.

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01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 3: I love like Western dressing.

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Speaker 9: One of them just call it Midwestern dressing. Western dress

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Speaker 9: on the West coast. So let's what what what is

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01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,839
Speaker 9: western dressing? It's like Friends Show.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the Cadillac of French dress, Freedom Fries.

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Speaker 6: Right, we can't call it French dress.

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Speaker 2: Oh got it?

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Speaker 8: Okay, I'm all up to speed dressing.

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Speaker 9: And you're about to be up to speed because just

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01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:42,560
Speaker 9: a short time ago, in advance of the National Championship

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01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 9: Game in Houston, Jim Harbaugh at media day today asked

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Speaker 9: just a short time ago about his future, and it

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01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,760
Speaker 9: was a typical Harbaugh response.

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01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 2: And here it is. Yeah, there's a calendar. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to talk about the future. Next week has been. I

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01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 2: hope to have one.

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Speaker 6: How about that?

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Speaker 2: The future? I hope to have one. Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 9: That was Jim Harbaugh when asked about his future. And

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Speaker 9: as I'm sure you guys can agree, that was a

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01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 9: typical Jim Harbor response moments ago, and the NFL ESPN

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01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:22,799
Speaker 9: reported today Baltimore Ravens defensive tackle Michael Pearce has agreed

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Speaker 9: to a two year, seven point five million dollar extension

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Speaker 9: through twenty twenty five. In the NBA, on Friday night,

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Speaker 9: the Memphis Grizzlies defeated the Los Angeles Lakers one twenty

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Speaker 9: seven to one thirteen. The Lakers on a four game

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Speaker 9: losing streak. They've lost ten of their last thirteen, and

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01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 9: after the game, Lebron James succinctly summed up the state

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Speaker 9: of the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, we suck again.

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Speaker 8: Oops.

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01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 9: Sorry, guys, press the wrong button there. How clumsy of me.

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Speaker 9: Let me try that again. We would just suck right now,

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Speaker 9: basically said the same things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: In Northern California on Friday night, the gold of State

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Speaker 9: Warriors defeated Detroit one thirteen to one oh nine, but

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Speaker 9: Golden States Chris Paul broke his left hand. He will

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01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 9: have surgery next week. The Orlando Magic rally from eighteen

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01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 9: down in the third quarter to win at Denver one

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Speaker 9: twenty two to one twenty Plo Banco the first triple

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Speaker 9: double of his career, Sacramento's Demonta Simonis his third triple

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Speaker 9: double in the last four games, and they're one thirty

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Speaker 9: five to one thirty victory over Toronto Fellas back to you,

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: Gield, Bears fans might not want to review the show

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, this might be a stayoff game the whole

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Speaker 5: week of shoot the whole stay Chicago.

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Speaker 6: Just don't even listen to the show.

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Speaker 2: You might not like what you hear. Well, there is

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Speaker 2: a flip side.

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Speaker 3: You guys gave the counter argument to what I was saying,

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Speaker 3: so you know both sides are represented equally. Okay, I'll

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Speaker 3: get to the question right around the corner, which do

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Speaker 3: you prefer? If you are this team, I'll give you

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Speaker 3: two scenarios. Which option are you choosing? Plus all of

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Speaker 3: our picks we went collectively eight and one. Yet a

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Speaker 3: week we had a week later.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, about that one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what was the one loss?

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Speaker 2: It was the over on what was it Dallas Detroit game? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what it was.

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Speaker 6: Blame yeah, weird game. Stupid Brad Allen.

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01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 2: Damn Brad Allen. I blame him.

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01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, you could also maybe blame Dan Campbell

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Speaker 3: for like we're at our seven yard line, let's go

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Speaker 3: for two. Anyway.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was a little bit of the will Pharaoh.

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01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 5: We're going streaking bringreen.

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Speaker 2: Hat, like, what what's it called?

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Speaker 3: One one nine hundred gambler? What's the hot one?

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Speaker 6: That's like when you're on a when you're on like

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Speaker 6: an epic cooler and the on like the craps table,

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01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:12,360
Speaker 6: and you're just like, I'm just gonna throw it all

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01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,679
Speaker 6: on on a hard eight here and just hope and pray.

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Speaker 6: I don't care what the odds are.

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Speaker 2: You're down to the felt yo eleven. Yeah, you know

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01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 2: that's a camp right.

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Speaker 3: All right, we get the scenario. Which option are you

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Speaker 3: choosing at all of our picks? That's right around the

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Speaker 3: corner with Rich Orenberger, a Penn State All American, with

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Speaker 3: Jared Smith FSR, betting betting analyst, and myself Brian No

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Speaker 3: picks and Are you taking the red pill or the

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Speaker 3: blue pill that's on the way. It's Fox Sports Radios

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Speaker 3: technical producer Isaac Lohan Kron doing a tremendous job on

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Speaker 3: the updates top of the hour, Up on game, LeVar Arrington,

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Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, real quickly before

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Speaker 3: our picks, which do you prefer if you're the Miami Dolphins. Okay,

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01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:18,879
Speaker 3: either the Steelers lose or Jacksonville loses and Buffalo your opponent.

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01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 3: Worst case scenario, they've got a playoff berth okay, or

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Speaker 3: those other teams win and Buffalo has to win to

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Speaker 3: get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Which do you prefer?

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01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 3: Now you might think, hey, if it's all on the line,

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01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 3: Buffalo has to win, They're gonna come out gritty, They're

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Speaker 3: gonna throw the kitchen sink at the Dolphins. That might

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01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:46,959
Speaker 3: be true, but I would prefer that option because Buffalo

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01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 3: loves to wet themselves and if it's all down to

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01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 3: winning in or losing, go home better luck next year.

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Speaker 2: I think that's actually to the Dolphins benefit. Eve it

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Speaker 2: or not.

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Speaker 3: I would rather have it all on the line. They're in,

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01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:07,719
Speaker 3: it's all or nothing because they look at their playoff

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01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 3: history thirteen seconds and they found a way to kick

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01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 3: that game away against against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: That's what they do, that's who they are. So yeah,

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01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 2: I would rather they have to win to get in.

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Speaker 5: I look at it maybe slightly differently, because I think

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01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 5: you can play a bit looser when you know that

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01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 5: there's a safety net and you know you're just playing

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01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 5: for the division as opposed for clinching a.

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Speaker 2: Playoff birth. So I would lean the opposite way.

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01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 5: I would lean like you would want it predetermined, like

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01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 5: a Steeler's loss would help me. As a Bills fan

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01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 5: sleep going into the game against the Dolphins.

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01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 6: I'm reminded of that scene in The Dark Knight Rises

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01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 6: where he tried to jump out of that little prison,

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01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 6: but he couldn't do it until he took away his

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01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 6: harness that protected him from falling. Right, It's like the

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01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 6: fear motivated him to go further. I still would rather

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Speaker 6: have the safety net though, right, But which do you want?

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Speaker 3: If you're Miami, I.

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Speaker 6: Think Miami, you want the team you're playing at the

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Speaker 6: safety net?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I go the other way just because it's

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Speaker 3: the bills.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this. We got picks to make

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Speaker 2: rapid fire. All right, Jared, We'll start with you, mister

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Speaker 2: thirty and oh last.

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Speaker 3: Week, what do you have for us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You three and oh two are both over five hundred

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Speaker 6: for the year. I'll give you one for today, one

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Speaker 6: for tomorrow, one for Monday. So we'll start with tomorrow,

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Speaker 6: and it's going to be South Dakota State in the

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Speaker 6: FCS championship game. They're a top thirty team in the FBS,

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Speaker 6: I think if you power rated them, and they are

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Speaker 6: one of the best FCS teams in recent history, outscoring

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01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 6: opponents one twenty three to twelve in the playoffs. I

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Speaker 6: will lay thirteen and a half with the Jacks to

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Speaker 6: beat Montana in the championship game. Tomorrow, we're going with

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Speaker 6: excuse me, Monday, we're going with Michigan minus.

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Speaker 2: Four and a half.

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Speaker 6: I gave you the reasons why during our handy gap.

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Speaker 6: You can even scroll back and listen to the podcast

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Speaker 6: to find out why. But I think the Wolverine lean

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01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 6: on the Huskies and win this game and cover the number.

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Speaker 2: All right, real quick? Steelers Baltimore?

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01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 5: Which team would I feel better losing with the Steelers

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01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 5: covering the three points? So I'm gonna eat it Steelers

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01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 5: minus three. There I can wake up Sunday morning feeling

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01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 5: okay about losing that bet if it should go down

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01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 5: that way.

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Speaker 4: I like the.

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Speaker 5: Texans being favored by one and a half against the Colts,

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01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 5: and since I like that, it feels like the Colts

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01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 5: will be chasing points. Gardner Mischew higher than thirty three

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01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 5: and a half passing attempts, I'll take that as well.

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Speaker 2: And those are my three rapid fire this week.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna stick with Mike Evans, Tampa receiver. He

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01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 3: carves up the Panthers, Tampa needs the game. I'm gonna

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01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 3: take him over sixty two and a half receiving yards.

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Speaker 3: This is this is one of those games where if

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Speaker 3: you can't go by last week, Jayden Reid, the Packers receiver,

2353
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 3: carved up Minnesota, I'm gonna take him under forty seven

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01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 3: and half against a much improved Bears defense and the

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Speaker 3: last one. I'm gonna go with my guy, Tyrod Taylor.

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01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 3: I think he gets to twenty six and a half

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01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 3: rushing yards against Philly.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this.

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01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 1: This is the best player of the day.

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01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 5: Touchdown.

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01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 4: What is it?

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01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:22,680
Speaker 6: Jared Houston, Texans? Maybe no problem here. They go into Indy,

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Speaker 6: they get a win, and they're going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Okay, beautiful right. Bonus pick under in the championship game

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Speaker 3: see yu