WEBVTT - The Nurse Breaking the Bones of Black Babies (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our

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<v Speaker 1>mission is to foster allyship empathy and understanding. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>ramses job.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Ramsey's job. I am q Ward. It is

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five and you are still tuned into Civic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 1>And we appreciate that it is going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting year. It's going to be an interesting few years,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are going to have our therapy together today.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to be discussing a very sad story.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a nick you nurse that is facing charges

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<v Speaker 1>for allegedly breaking the bones of black infants. This is

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<v Speaker 1>something that's been widely circulated online, something that obviously is

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<v Speaker 1>deeply disturbing to those of us who are parents of children.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that is cancerous and pervasive, and it

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<v Speaker 1>does exist in this country. For people that think that

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<v Speaker 1>we imagine things that happen to us, that we are paranoid,

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<v Speaker 1>for people that think that we are perpetual victims, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Stories like this really breathe life into the stories that

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<v Speaker 1>we live. So we're going to talk about that. We're

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<v Speaker 1>also going to be spending some time talking about y'all's

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<v Speaker 1>new president. He is wild'n out already. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>rename the Gulf of Mexico, he wants to seize the

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<v Speaker 1>Panama Canal, he wants Canada to be the fifty first state,

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<v Speaker 1>who wants Greenland to be a part of this country,

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<v Speaker 1>and so much more. And we are going to unpack

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, and I'm sure much more in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth coming episode. But before we get there, let's do

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<v Speaker 1>like we always do and start off with some ebony excellence,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>I think we shall.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's any Excellence is sponsored by Actively Black. There's greatness

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<v Speaker 1>this one, we're just gonna give a general shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to black women for being excellent, you know, President Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>The story, by the way, comes from the Black Information

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<v Speaker 1>Network bion news dot Com. President Joe Biden has appointed

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<v Speaker 1>more black women as federal judges than any other president

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<v Speaker 1>in history. As of last month, the US Senate confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Tiffany Renee Johnson to serve in the Northern District

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<v Speaker 1>of Georgia, marking the fortieth black women Biden had appointed

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<v Speaker 1>to the federal bench. Per the grioh, Biden broke former

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<v Speaker 1>President Barack Obama's previous record of appointing twenty six black

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<v Speaker 1>female judges. Johnson's historic appointment also marked the sixty second

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<v Speaker 1>black judge confirmed during Biden's presidency. This ties the record

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<v Speaker 1>for the most black federal judges confirmed during a presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>His first term, President elect Donald Trump only appointed two

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<v Speaker 1>black women to the federal bench, making up less than

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<v Speaker 1>one percent of his appointees. Trump declined to nominate any

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<v Speaker 1>black judges to federal courts. Biden appears to be making

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<v Speaker 1>good on his promise to reshape the federal judiciary to

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<v Speaker 1>reflect America's diversity as his presidency comes to a close.

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<v Speaker 1>His most notable appointment came in April of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>when Justice Katanji Brown Jackson was confirmed as the first

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<v Speaker 1>black woman to serve as a Supreme Court justice. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these are the final days of his presidency

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<v Speaker 1>and he's taking this time to highlight some ebony excellence.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, that's something we'll take it. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need all the help we can get. And while he's

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<v Speaker 1>still in a position to do something, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he's doing, then I at least can say

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<v Speaker 1>that I salute that because it may not feel balanced

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<v Speaker 1>in this country ever again, and he's stacking what he

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<v Speaker 1>can in our favor. So all right, first step, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a this is an interesting story here, Uh, before

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<v Speaker 1>we before we even get to this article, que talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us about why this stood out in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>and why you wanted to talk about this one today,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you and I talked a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about it beforehand. But I think that the why in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of this one is important for our listeners to know.

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<v Speaker 2>About being black is something that we very very probably celebrate.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear people say all the time they'd rather not

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't rather be anything else. And though it is

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<v Speaker 2>a incredibly sweet and nice to say, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>how or why it's true. Our entire lives on this

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<v Speaker 2>continent throughout the entire history of this continent.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a happy story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an awful, difficult, painful story with very bright moments,

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<v Speaker 2>but an enduring truth, which is the country and those

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<v Speaker 2>that inhabited and those that are in power have perpetually

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<v Speaker 2>worked tirelessly against our happiness. Right, Because you might immediately

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<v Speaker 2>think that they've worked against our ability to make money,

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<v Speaker 2>our ability to be successful, our ability to thrive, our

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<v Speaker 2>ability to do whatever. But they've actively worked against anything

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<v Speaker 2>that makes us happy because we've at times removed ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>from their capitalist system, created our own communities, our own businesses,

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<v Speaker 2>our own neighborhoods. Nope, we're going to come there and

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<v Speaker 2>destroy those two. We don't want you to be anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>and be okay. And the most frustrating thing is something

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<v Speaker 2>that you mentioned before, this idea that we are race baters,

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<v Speaker 2>that we're playing the victim, that we're imagining these invisible

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<v Speaker 2>circumstances that constantly work against us. I've heard black quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote leaders, which in too many cases just means black

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<v Speaker 2>celebrities say things like, you know, Black History Month perpetuates racism,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't believe in black and white. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why racism still exists is because we say these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we want racism to go away, stop talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that Morgan Freeman line.

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<v Speaker 2>Placing the blame back on us for the circumstances that

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<v Speaker 2>we were kidnapped into and then every generation after that

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<v Speaker 2>born into. If we would just leave the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>racism alone, then it would leave us alone. We're giving

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<v Speaker 2>it the power. It's not something that we're actively experiencing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not something that we're actually even going through. We

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<v Speaker 2>are giving the oxygen and the gasoline to the fire

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<v Speaker 2>which is racism as it continues to burn and devour us, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>with no sign of it ever being distinguished ever at

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<v Speaker 2>a revelation yesterday or an epiphany or an AHA moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to black people born in the sixties, as

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<v Speaker 2>the civil rights movement built its muscle all the way

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<v Speaker 2>up and people sacrificed everything they could for life to

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<v Speaker 2>be this much better for us, reminding everyone that can

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<v Speaker 2>hear me that our fight has never been to have

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<v Speaker 2>more than anyone else. We've never sought revenge. We've never

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<v Speaker 2>sought to get our lick back. We've never wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>conquer or overcome you. We wanted to overcome our circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>We shall overcome. Was about us not being under the

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<v Speaker 2>foot of oppression and racism anymore, not overcoming and then

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<v Speaker 2>flipping that on its head and doing the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>to anyone else. We've only ever wanted to live unimpeded.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want to take anything from you. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>want your life to be any harder so that ours

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<v Speaker 2>can be better. As a matter of fact, we absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>don't want your life to be harder so that ours

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<v Speaker 2>can be better. Would it be okay with you if

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<v Speaker 2>we were okay? So our black brothers and sisters that

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<v Speaker 2>were born in the sixties as civil rights as that

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<v Speaker 2>movement flexed its muscle and we got a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more freedom, a little bit more rights. Our music got

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<v Speaker 2>to turn up a little bit louder. Our melodies got

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more beautiful. We got to come outside.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to grow up and dance and thrive. We

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<v Speaker 2>got to entertain the country. We got to break race

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<v Speaker 2>barriers going into the seventies and into the eighties, and

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<v Speaker 2>professional sports and entertainment where our talents made way for

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<v Speaker 2>us in rooms where there was a colored only entrance

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<v Speaker 2>and a colored only water fountain, a colored only bathroom,

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<v Speaker 2>and in restaurants we had to enter through the kitchen,

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<v Speaker 2>asked to not make the white patrons in the main

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<v Speaker 2>dining room uncomfortable. We got to watch those things change.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to be welcomed on your favorite TV show.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to start winning awards as the eighties go

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<v Speaker 2>into the nineties, and we were welcome at the Grammys

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<v Speaker 2>as hip hop has become a mainstream genre of music.

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<v Speaker 2>As the nineties go into the two thousands, we get

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<v Speaker 2>to see a black man become president. And as those

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<v Speaker 2>worn into the sixties get into their sixties, they get

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<v Speaker 2>to watch their children and their grandchildren go up and

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<v Speaker 2>go to college and have all these accomplishments. We still

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<v Speaker 2>get to see the first Black laundry list of things,

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<v Speaker 2>which is sad but also exciting watching those first black

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<v Speaker 2>people conquer and thrive and survive and break records and

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<v Speaker 2>have these moments and measures of success that we never

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<v Speaker 2>thought possible. They got to watch that happen. They got

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<v Speaker 2>to live most of their life in the most progressive

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<v Speaker 2>window of time for black people in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>this country. And unfortunately they now have to watch those

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<v Speaker 2>children raise children as the country, I'm sorry, tumbles back

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<v Speaker 2>down that hill into what we thought we escaped from,

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<v Speaker 2>as billionaires and the oligarchs and wealth wrapped in the

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<v Speaker 2>American flag take back over and strip away rights from

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<v Speaker 2>women and get rid of affirmative action and get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of DEI. And while all of this is happening to us.

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<v Speaker 2>People will point to us and tell us to stop

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<v Speaker 2>playing the victim, stop race baiting, stop inserting race where

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't belong, and to try to blow some snow

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<v Speaker 2>on her fresh tracks. The lady who this story is about,

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<v Speaker 2>because her cruelty sees no limit, let me get this

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<v Speaker 2>sent off of me and break the bones of some

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<v Speaker 2>white babies too, so they don't catch on to the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that I've only been doing this to newborn black babies.

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<v Speaker 2>This is America, all right, I'll read.

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<v Speaker 3>This is from Revolt.

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<v Speaker 1>White nick U nurse faces charges for allegedly breaking the

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<v Speaker 1>bones of black infants. On Sunday, January fifth, the Washington

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<v Speaker 1>Post reported that registered nurse Aaron Elizabeth Ann Stratman was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested in connection with the abuse of several black babies

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<v Speaker 1>at a Virginia medical center. Beginning in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>officials at Henrico Doctor's Hospital began noticing unexplained injuries among

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<v Speaker 1>newborns in its neonatal intensive care unit. More recently, three

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<v Speaker 1>babies suffered unexplainable fractures, which prompted the temporary halting of

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<v Speaker 1>NICKU admissions. In an official statement, Henrico County Police announced

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<v Speaker 1>that Strautman's arrest stemmed from the incident in November twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, and other cases of mysterious incidents have since

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<v Speaker 1>been reopened. Now hundreds of hours of surveillance footage are

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<v Speaker 1>being reviewed regarding at least seven infants. Quote. We are

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<v Speaker 1>committed to protecting our residents, particularly our youngest and most vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 1>the statement read. Strapman has since been charged with malicious

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<v Speaker 1>wounding and felony child abuse. The Washington Post spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>affected family members, including Dominique Hacki, whose twin boys were

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<v Speaker 1>born prematurely at twenty eight weeks old. While one recovered well,

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<v Speaker 1>the father was shocked on the other had a fractured leg.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite initial theories that the injury might have been caused

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<v Speaker 1>by an injection, Hakki's mother, former nick U nurse, reported

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<v Speaker 1>the incident to Child Protective Services. Despite had a year

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<v Speaker 1>long inquiry, authorities failed to identify a suspect. Quote. Finding

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<v Speaker 1>out there were seven total was gut wrenching, Hackie said

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<v Speaker 1>after learning about the arrest. A statement goes on to say,

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<v Speaker 1>before my son knew joy, he experienced pain and I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there to protect him. He, along with other families,

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<v Speaker 1>attended Stratmann's Friday, January third arraignment, where it was revealed

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<v Speaker 1>that one baby suffered twelve fractures. The suspect's next court

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<v Speaker 1>date is scheduled for March twenty fourth. Henrico Doctor's Hospital

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<v Speaker 1>released its own statement expressing shock and sadness over the development. Quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we are focused on continuing to care for our patients

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<v Speaker 1>and providing support to our colleagues who have been deeply

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<v Speaker 1>impersonally impacted by this investigation, it said. We are grateful

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<v Speaker 1>to those colleagues who have dedicated their professional lives to

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<v Speaker 1>the care and safety of our patients, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>to law enforcement and other agencies who have worked aggressively

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<v Speaker 1>and tirelessly with.

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<v Speaker 3>Us on this investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, hatred exists in this world.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ignorance exists in this world. You know that, and often enough,

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<v Speaker 1>those two are different sides of the same coin. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is that when people are in a position to

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<v Speaker 1>do something with their ignorance and with their hatred that

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<v Speaker 1>affects the lives of other people, you begin to see

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<v Speaker 1>the early makings of systems, and you begin to see

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<v Speaker 1>how far reaching racism can go if you imbue it.

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<v Speaker 1>With a bit of power. Now, this is a story

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<v Speaker 1>about a nurse who's breaking the bones of news at

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<v Speaker 1>a hospital or black and obviously this isn't something that

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<v Speaker 1>happens across the board. But there are things that we

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<v Speaker 1>learn doing this show that ring true in this story.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that comes to mind in this instance and

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<v Speaker 1>in many of the instances, especially when dealing with police corruption,

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<v Speaker 1>is that we only share the stories of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who get caught, meaning that when you look at data,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at in this instance, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>health care, so let's talk about health care outcomes. The

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<v Speaker 1>data can illuminate injustices that are hard to.

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<v Speaker 3>Pinpoint the source of.

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<v Speaker 1>In this very tiny example here, you have a neonatal

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<v Speaker 1>unit where there is a high concentration of black children

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<v Speaker 1>with injuries. And if this woman, if this nurse had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten away with it, it would have just been data

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest of us would have been able to

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<v Speaker 1>would have been left rather to look at the data

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<v Speaker 1>and try to figure out why is it that everything

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<v Speaker 1>bad happens to black people all the time. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you scale this up to wealth, if you scale this

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<v Speaker 1>up to influence, political influence, if you scale this up

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, environmental factors. If you scale this up

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<v Speaker 1>to economic factors, if you scale this up to employment,

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<v Speaker 1>if you scale us up to housing, and you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the data, the data often suggests that something is

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and for far too long people have accepted that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, black people need to stop listening

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<v Speaker 1>to rap music and then they won't have these this

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<v Speaker 1>strange anomalies in the data when it comes to their housing,

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<v Speaker 1>or when it comes to their healthcare, when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to whatever, right, And that's just been a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Convenient excuse across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that this story shows that there are

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<v Speaker 1>monsters who sometimes slip up and then we're able to see, ah, there,

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<v Speaker 1>it is right there, and enough of these informs us

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<v Speaker 1>that walks this path to say, okay, we see what

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's racism.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that the general population is still uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with that as an excuse quote unquote, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>pin it on us as though we're using an excuse,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're imagining it, like we said, And it is

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<v Speaker 1>important that we share stories like this and stories of

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<v Speaker 1>police injustice, and stories of again all of these other factors,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these elements that shape Black life in America,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly environmental factors, economic factors, so that we can push

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<v Speaker 1>back against the narrative that we're all all black people

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<v Speaker 1>are crazy and victims and imagining we have like a

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<v Speaker 1>collective delusion. It's not fair, it's hurtful. It denies us

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<v Speaker 1>our humanity, it denies us our experience. And how arrogant

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<v Speaker 1>of you to suggest that you know my experience better

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<v Speaker 1>than me and you can articulate it better than I can.

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<v Speaker 1>This is disgusting. And this is one person who got

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<v Speaker 1>caught and for pole will have a tough time processing

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's a woman, because it's a white woman.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get a chance to see her picture, she

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<v Speaker 1>looks innocent enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is that you know allows this to be

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<v Speaker 1>easily dismissed from your reality. All poor babies, poor black folks,

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<v Speaker 1>just know that this is where we live.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not unintelligent. We are not naturally more prone

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<v Speaker 2>to poverty and crime. We are not naturally more likely

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<v Speaker 2>to commit crimes and be arrested. We are not naturally

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<v Speaker 2>more likely to be addicted to drugs. We are not

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<v Speaker 2>naturally more likely to be poor. We are not naturally

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<v Speaker 2>less capable than everyone else. The answer is almost always

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<v Speaker 2>racism and capitalism used as a way been by white

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<v Speaker 2>supremacist racists, specifically to make sure that all minorities and

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<v Speaker 2>all poor people spend time looking left and right at

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<v Speaker 2>one another as the problem, instead of up and down

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<v Speaker 2>at the class system that was created and that we

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<v Speaker 2>were placed in. Those who hoard all the money and

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<v Speaker 2>all the power. Make us each other's enemies, make us

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<v Speaker 2>each other's problems, and tell you the reason why you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have more and haven't had more success is because

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<v Speaker 2>of your lazy black or Hispanic immigrant neighbor. We have

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<v Speaker 2>been made the fooll love once again, and this powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>forever enduring system is getting stronger. And they used to

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<v Speaker 2>for a period of time. That's why I talked about

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<v Speaker 2>those born in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>They would hide this stuff from us because they couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get it off. We were outside, we were in the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>We would not let it happen. And now we've been

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<v Speaker 2>co opted. They point us at each other and we

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<v Speaker 2>flex how much more we know and how much more woke,

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<v Speaker 2>and how we are not sheep and we're individual free thinkers,

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<v Speaker 2>and we parrot their politics and their ideals to each

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<v Speaker 2>other as they continue to thrive and keep us pressed

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<v Speaker 2>under their thumbs. I would say wake up, but they

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<v Speaker 2>co opt it woke, So I just have to be

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<v Speaker 2>frustrated as I read a story about a woman, a nurse,

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<v Speaker 2>someone whose job it is to take care of people,

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<v Speaker 2>singling out black babies and breaking their bones, as this

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<v Speaker 2>father says, so before they experience any joy, they can

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<v Speaker 2>experience infuriating pain and agony. And this was her intent.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they looked like Qan Ramses. I hope that made

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<v Speaker 2>you as sick hearing it as it made Rams reading it,

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<v Speaker 2>because my brother almost couldn't finish reading the story.

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<v Speaker 3>We are fathers, we're humans. We are human isus