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Speaker 1: It is now time for the Jerry Jones Show every

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Speaker 1: Tuesday at this time with Sean and r J. Jerry

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Speaker 1: brought to you by your North Texas four Dealers for

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Speaker 1: Built for Texas, Built for you. Good morning, Jerry, how

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Speaker 1: are you, don RJ? Good morning, Good morning, Good morning, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: What were your emotions during that game on Sunday against

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and how are you feeling about it afterwards? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think I was disappointed for everyone, all constituencies and

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Speaker 1: really thought after we had taken the lead, I thought

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Speaker 1: the sequence of turnovers those were terrible, unfortunate. But if

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Speaker 1: you think about it, it is an area that you

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Speaker 1: can say you can correct. Turnovers can come in bunches,

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Speaker 1: but I'd be very candid with you haven't seen them

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Speaker 1: miss kind of bunches. So I'm quite a turnover guy,

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Speaker 1: because not that everyone isn't, but in our situation, to

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Speaker 1: explain what's happening to us, because there's no question the

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Speaker 1: turnovers have certainly altered significantly at least two of the

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Speaker 1: three losses that we've had. Can we play better than

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Speaker 1: we're playing in all phases? Absolutely, but that's honestly to

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Speaker 1: be expected. We should expect to get better in these circumstances.

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Speaker 1: The fourth game of the year. We should expect to

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Speaker 1: be better from here, and I'm talking about as far

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Speaker 1: as our assignments, as far as our executing our schemes.

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Speaker 1: We could expect to be better. We're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: stop those turnovers. We can stop those turnovers, and we

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Speaker 1: can execute better if you put the two together. Things

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Speaker 1: never happened. There's never one thing. There's never two things.

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Speaker 1: There's many things. But you put those turnovers to this side,

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Speaker 1: and everybody goes down. Of course, you put the turnovers

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Speaker 1: out of the way, and you give us better field position,

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Speaker 1: we'll play better and we'll win games. Jerry, would you

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Speaker 1: say you're more like angry with how the season's transpired

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Speaker 1: through four games or disappointed in where they are right now? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed because I know that the proverbial we're four

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Speaker 1: games into this thing. You don't have to look at

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Speaker 1: how the state that we're in in the NFC East Conference.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe anyone has doubted that it's impossible for

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Speaker 1: us to be in the playoffs. What I think I

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Speaker 1: can add to the mix is that firsthand, I know

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Speaker 1: we can do better for the outcome of the games.

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Speaker 1: Eliminate those turnovers. We're going to get better at work

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Speaker 1: in our schemes. We're going to get better on individual technique.

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Speaker 1: Other teams are too. We're going to have to have

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Speaker 1: the benefit of help on the way. Those are players

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Speaker 1: that we've got out that can actually come back and

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Speaker 1: help us. I think all of that can happen for us.

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Speaker 1: I really do. There's no reason why I came, and

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Speaker 1: there's no reason why as we sit right here today,

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Speaker 1: we can't be in contention. And I know the quality

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Speaker 1: of our talent. I believe in it, and we can

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Speaker 1: play at a level that can have some good things

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Speaker 1: happen for us at the end of the year. Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones here on the fan, Jerry, we agree that the

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Speaker 1: turnovers should go away. It's a crazy amount for you guys.

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Speaker 1: But on the other side of the ball, you know

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Speaker 1: you've been historically bad to start off the season. You

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Speaker 1: haven't wanted to bring in much help from the outside.

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Speaker 1: Last week you said a lot of it was x's

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Speaker 1: and oh's. Are you past that now? Why do you

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Speaker 1: believe that you have the internal talent not to have

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Speaker 1: a really bad defense like we've seen so far? But

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Speaker 1: I judged the talent. I judged the talent by what

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Speaker 1: we've had in the past. I judged the talent of

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Speaker 1: what we're asking them to do. What the schemes are

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Speaker 1: asked them to do. They need to do it. They

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Speaker 1: need to do it in unison. They need to basically

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Speaker 1: execute the scheme and the plan and let the plan.

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Speaker 1: Trust the plan, trust the scheme. You hear that all

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Speaker 1: the time. Just trust the play, trust your preparation, trust

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Speaker 1: a new system, and we certainly have a new system,

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Speaker 1: but there are the clubs that have new systems too,

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Speaker 1: especially over on the defensive side of the ball. So

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Speaker 1: I think we will trust our schemes better. I certainly

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Speaker 1: think that your coaching staff is capable and can make adjustments.

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Speaker 1: And this business we're in is nothing but a week

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Speaker 1: to week series of adjustments. It's all about adjusting, and

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Speaker 1: through the year. We're capable of all of that. This

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Speaker 1: did you have any conversation or thoughts about Mike Nolan's

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Speaker 1: He's lived around a lot of football. He has answers.

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Speaker 1: There can they be answers that we all get on

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Speaker 1: challenge of how to execute it when it's in live action.

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Speaker 1: But we've got somebody here that can tell you where

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Speaker 1: we're apt, where we're in apt, where we need changes,

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Speaker 1: as well as anybody on the planet. And Mike Jerry

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Speaker 1: McCarthy said after the game, we're going to be multiple

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Speaker 1: do you feel about that? With the craziness of the

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Speaker 1: more simple. If confusion is causing a lot of these

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Speaker 1: of these kinds of conversations, especially how you're going to

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Speaker 1: Everything is by degree. You can make it less by

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Speaker 1: So it's by degree. Everything is adjustable. Now, what is

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Speaker 1: happening is that Mike and his coaching staff are continuing

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Speaker 1: to make adjustments by the very nature, just particularly our team.

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Speaker 1: We were coming in instituting some different things, different techniques,

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Speaker 1: have to have, and that's an individual. You got to

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Speaker 1: have confidence in the scheme. You got to have confidence

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Speaker 1: We can have the numbers of things for the players

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Speaker 1: the players. We can do that and we will do that. Jerry.

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Speaker 1: Does it bother you to hear terms like lack of

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper said, we don't have confidence right now. Stephen

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Speaker 1: reiterated yesterday we got to get our confidences. That surprise you,

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Speaker 1: But those terms you're throwing out are a part of

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Speaker 1: football that I have heard since I was eight and

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Speaker 1: nine ten years old. Jerry Jones join us here, one

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Speaker 1: oh five three of the fan. You guys have been

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Speaker 1: But I don't think that we've been hesitant. If you

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Speaker 1: What you're implying is that there is a football player

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Speaker 1: a player that can improve us, that certainly fits us.

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Speaker 1: If you think about it from the standpoint of our

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Speaker 1: someone that could help you next week. Well, you could

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Speaker 1: know you understand all this, And the point is, if

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Speaker 1: it's within the plan or that are not planned, but

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Speaker 1: if it's within what we can tolerate, you can bet

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Speaker 1: your dollar we're going to improve. Jerry, what position group

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Speaker 1: defensively is worrying you the most right now? Defensive line?

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Speaker 1: Given three hundred injuries to the linebackers, we've seen the

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Speaker 1: terms of your defensive position groups? Well, you've asked, you

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Speaker 1: I see improvement there in defense, and but it's across

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Speaker 1: to look like, Jerry, is it looking like you guys

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Speaker 1: have the detail on that. Jerry, You've you've mentioned in

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Speaker 1: is is not winning during the Romo window. Are you

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Speaker 1: kind of scared that we're maybe going down that same

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Speaker 1: I think you have to have a balance, uh. And

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Speaker 1: to play coordinated football. We've got to play the full

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Speaker 1: And we've got to play it where it's complimentary. We

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Speaker 1: doing that. Jerry, you're down forty one fourteen against Atlanta

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Speaker 1: Some people call those garbage time stats, hollow or empty numbers.

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Speaker 1: those plays that are are not garbage. They're great plays.

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Speaker 1: And that certainly happened when we were here with one

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Speaker 1: what have you noticed or observed about Mike McCarthy and

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Speaker 1: There's no diminishing of Pope. If practice in adversity helps

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Speaker 1: been courageous. I'll use that word right there in his performance.

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Speaker 1: does it look like you guys will be missing Joe

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Speaker 1: We anticipate that, that's the way that normally a young

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Speaker 1: rise to the occasion. Jerry, Thank you as always for

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