WEBVTT - Evan McMorris-Santoro & Sen. Andy Kim

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds. And President Trump is polling at thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two percent approval rating. We have such a great show

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<v Speaker 1>for you today. Notices Evan mic Moros Santorro stops by

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Trump's new low in his approval rating.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we'll talk to New Jersey Senator Andy Kim about

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<v Speaker 1>his medikids proposal. But first the news.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mally dald Trump has one fixation that is not decorating.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time I see the Oval Office, there's some new

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<v Speaker 2>gold bullshit up. But when he's not thinking of that,

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<v Speaker 2>he's thinking of the Save Act. Even though Republicans are saying, please,

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<v Speaker 2>please stop. Trump has never been very into consent.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to pass the Save Act. You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You have all of these senators who do not want

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<v Speaker 1>to knew the filibuster. You have the Yolo Caucus, Cornyn

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<v Speaker 1>and till Us. You have the Utah senator who is

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<v Speaker 1>already the new Utah Senator, the man who has Mett

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<v Speaker 1>Romney seat, who has already said that he has concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a junior Senator. There's no world in

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<v Speaker 1>which Republicans break the filibuster to pass the Save Act

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<v Speaker 1>by the August Research Recess, and Carolyn Lovett can say

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<v Speaker 1>whatever she wants, it's not going to happen. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they pass the Save Act, they wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get it going because, first of all, federalizing

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<v Speaker 1>elections would just go into court and court and it

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<v Speaker 1>would be in court forever. You and I both know,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's no world in which they could federalize elections

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<v Speaker 1>in time between the primaries and the actual midterms. This

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<v Speaker 1>is just like Donald Trump freaking out trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what he can do. And look. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that Todd Blanche. You know, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has this Todd Blanche nomination. It is not going to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to go to a vote yesterday. They

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<v Speaker 1>pulled it because Cornan's is said no, is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for it. Untill us too. So you have

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump tweeting about John Cornyan. You cannot be tweeting

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<v Speaker 1>about John Cornan and also asking John Cornan to kill

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<v Speaker 1>the filibuster. It's just not how any of this works.

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<v Speaker 1>So my gas is that none of this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, and they're about to go out to recess

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<v Speaker 1>and what they come back, it'll be September.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you clarify for me. So you're saying you think

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<v Speaker 2>Todd Blanch is never going to get confirmed.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Todd Blanche is going to be acting. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, what's so stupid about this is Trump is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just going to wait until after the mid Trumps. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So Cornan is from Texas, So maybe Trump gets Paxton. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if the polling is right today, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>tell Rico, who is not voting to confirm Todd Blanche.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that other seat, Tilla's seat. The Democrat is

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<v Speaker 1>way up in North Carolina, and you know he's been

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. Everybody's favorite governor of North Carolina, Roy Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a world in which those two senators are

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<v Speaker 1>replaced by Democrats who are not going to vote for

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<v Speaker 1>the Todd Blanche revolt. I mean, here's the thing about

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<v Speaker 1>the Todd Blanche confirmation fight. These two Republicans want Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche to say that Donald Trump cannot have IRS immunity

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<v Speaker 1>forever and ever. This is not some crazy ask here

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<v Speaker 1>they want him to put in writing what he said

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<v Speaker 1>during his hearings where he is at least ostensibly under

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<v Speaker 1>o's I mean, this is not craziness, and he won't

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<v Speaker 1>do it now, well, I won't Todd Blanche do it,

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<v Speaker 1>probably because Donald Trump doesn't want him to. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is where we are right. Cornon has refused to support

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<v Speaker 1>Blanche's nomination over Trump's cushy settlement deal with the IRS

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that he won't put him. Writing that

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<v Speaker 1>the IRS is a no go and that the one

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<v Speaker 1>point eight billion dollars slush fund is a no go

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<v Speaker 1>is proof. I think that Donald Trump still thinks he

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<v Speaker 1>can get it from top Ranch. And I think also

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to remember like Cornin and Tillis are not

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<v Speaker 1>operating in vacuum. They see that Donald Trump is polling

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<v Speaker 1>at Bush numbers, they see he's pulling at thirty two percent.

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<v Speaker 1>They know that the IRS thing and the slush fund

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<v Speaker 1>are both super unpopular, so like it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get more popular. This is not a moment to try

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<v Speaker 1>and pass some legislation which is like a very very

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<v Speaker 1>controversial legislation that almost no one wants, Like if he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted this, he should have tried to do it when

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<v Speaker 1>he first got into office.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Somali, I am sure you've heard, since you're often

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<v Speaker 2>on Morning Joe, that socialism was on the rise and

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<v Speaker 2>we really need to be fearful of this. And by

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<v Speaker 2>that I mean that Donald Trump's covers department quietly and

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<v Speaker 2>now seven new equity stakes in private companies. Our socialist

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<v Speaker 2>president is seizing the beads of production. How are you feeling, comrade, You.

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<v Speaker 1>Stole my chick. So here's what's happening. Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>seizing the means of production. The Commerce Department headed by

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<v Speaker 1>Howard Lutnik, who, as you may know, percent growth in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, you know, we have not that we

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<v Speaker 1>have one percent, two percent. They're going to nationalize seven companies.

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<v Speaker 1>What why? Because these people do not really believe in capitalism.

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<v Speaker 1>And any time that Fox News insists that a Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>wants to seize the companies, wants to seize the means

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<v Speaker 1>of production, they should be referred directly to Howard Lutnik

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<v Speaker 1>and Donald Trump and all of the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>doing sketchy things with their beloved corporations, because none of

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<v Speaker 1>this is how capitalism is supposed to work.

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<v Speaker 3>On the socialist president, and I got Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn, that's right, baby. He's an atheist and he's a socialist,

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<v Speaker 1>but not like you want.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that there's an interesting thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>and I have been talking about a lot recently, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that after Platner, a lot of people were shocked

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<v Speaker 2>that Jenet Mills was still down six poids compared to Platner,

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<v Speaker 2>even after the horrible accusations he had. So now we

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<v Speaker 2>have a poll that I think is telling you, because

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<v Speaker 2>I think Republicans got to this place first very obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>that two and three bags of voters say they'd support

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<v Speaker 2>a GOP kereded accused of sexual assault.

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<v Speaker 1>So I read this totally differently. This is what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a party that no longer believes women.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that this is a partisan thing. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>remember when Platner was accused of sexual assault or rape

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<v Speaker 1>when he was when he was accused of rape, Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>stopped supporting him. So I actually think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a partisan thing. I think that Republicans are so bought

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<v Speaker 1>into Trump and trump Ism that they have decided, and

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<v Speaker 1>the misogyny writ large of that that they have decided

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<v Speaker 1>they will support Trump and trump Ism and assault. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>here two and three mega voters say they'd support GOP

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<v Speaker 1>candidate accused of sexual assault. I mean, basically, in order

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<v Speaker 1>to support Trump, they've had to engage in the cognitive

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<v Speaker 1>dissidents of saying, you know, they just don't believe women anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really interesting because if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Max Miller situation. So Max Miller as a congressman who

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<v Speaker 1>has numerous allegations, had allegations from another girlfriend, now has

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<v Speaker 1>allegations of violence of all sorts of terrible stuff. The

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<v Speaker 1>allegations include that he broke the collar bone of their

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<v Speaker 1>two year old daughter, that he poured scalding water on

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<v Speaker 1>his wife. Now, his wife is the daughter of Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio Senator Bernie Marino, and Bernie has said nothing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he has said nothing as Max Miller runs for re election. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if it were my daughter, I would be shouting from

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<v Speaker 1>the rooftops.

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<v Speaker 2>Sofe was my daughter, I would I don't think his

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<v Speaker 2>neck would exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, I mean, I hope this is just limited

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<v Speaker 1>to Republicans. I would like it if it were limited,

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<v Speaker 1>if nobody were doing it but I think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of believe no women scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're right about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that though one of the symptoms of this

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<v Speaker 2>is is that people want change so bad in their

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<v Speaker 2>everyday life that they're like basically having cognitive dissonances to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get it because they're so desperate to have

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<v Speaker 2>it stop.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hope that it's just that Trump made

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<v Speaker 1>Republican voters desensitize to it, and they will now go

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<v Speaker 1>back to being normal, or head to being more normal

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Evan McMorris Santoro is a reporter at Notice. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Evan.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Molly, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good because you know, I as it polls. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good because I'm looking at these disapproval So Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>he's basically as unpopular as he's ever been. He has

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<v Speaker 1>hit the Bush line and thirty two percent approval rating.

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<v Speaker 1>That is when you that is that is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>it you can be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a pretty bad I mean, I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>you've seen I guess like sure, like George W. Bush

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<v Speaker 4>at the Amazon the twenties, but like it's very, very

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<v Speaker 4>bad for Trump, and it's especially bad for the Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, their entire electoral project in twenty six

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<v Speaker 4>is really like hinging on Trump. Like this is not

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<v Speaker 4>a party that has gotten much distance from the president.

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<v Speaker 4>They have like very specifically not done that. And I remember,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a few months ago, I was talking to

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans strategists about the plan for the summer, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like what they were gonna do, and some of them

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<v Speaker 4>even said they thought that maybe July fourth would be

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<v Speaker 4>a highlight for them, that they're do this great moment

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<v Speaker 4>where they could talk about you know, America and being

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<v Speaker 4>patriots and how unpatriotic the Democrats are and have this

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<v Speaker 4>great divide. And they had sure had this vision that

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<v Speaker 4>this Iran war thing which would cand of be behind

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<v Speaker 4>them and they would get and July would be a

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<v Speaker 4>time when gas prices will be able to come down,

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<v Speaker 4>we change the subject from some of this other stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and it would be like Trump will be back as

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<v Speaker 4>a viable party leader for them. And really, the this

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<v Speaker 4>month has ended with them in absolutely dire straits. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>these numbers are very, very bad, and the Republican nominees

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<v Speaker 4>that are running across the country are still basically boxed

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<v Speaker 4>in They can't really run away from Trump because that's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to be make the base that that still

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<v Speaker 4>really likes Trump happy, And they can't really you know,

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<v Speaker 4>run towards him because that is incredibly toxic for the

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<v Speaker 4>general electric So this is basically as good a position

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<v Speaker 4>for the polls as Democrats could get. Really like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the case, This is like what they really really

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<v Speaker 4>want to see happen has now happened, and there's more

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<v Speaker 4>to come. I mean, you know, the thing is, the

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<v Speaker 4>things that made the polls bad, like the Iran war

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<v Speaker 4>and other things like that, those are still going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we're not like in the there's no end in

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<v Speaker 4>sight for these negative poll numbers. How they play out,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't, you know, I'm not totally sure. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>weird time with polls, with what to believe what not

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<v Speaker 4>to believe. But when every poll is telling you the

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<v Speaker 4>president is in a really really bad shape on polls

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<v Speaker 4>and you're not seeing the president's team put out their

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<v Speaker 4>own polls, you can assume that it's the numbers are

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<v Speaker 4>pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So the polling is very connected to gas prices, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's connected to other stuff, but it's really

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<v Speaker 1>connected a lot of this is on the economy. Certainly

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<v Speaker 1>people don't like ice killing American citizens. They don't. But

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<v Speaker 1>but most of this is the ability of the of

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<v Speaker 1>an American voter to see Donald Trump and see him

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<v Speaker 1>go into Iran, never make a case for it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then go to the pump and see gas prices be higher,

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<v Speaker 1>and then see Donald Trump say We're gonna make peace

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<v Speaker 1>with Iron, and see gas prices go down, also possibly

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<v Speaker 1>because they were using the reserve the oil, some reserved

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<v Speaker 1>oil right to keep the prices low, and then see

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<v Speaker 1>that the war is back on and that gas prices

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<v Speaker 1>are up. I mean, like he has very clearly shown

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<v Speaker 1>that he had some control over making gas prices go down,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he no longer has that control.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Well, they try with that deal. You know. This

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<v Speaker 4>is that thing where Trump is a regular president in

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<v Speaker 4>a way that I think is kind of surprising given

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<v Speaker 4>how he came into the second term. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 4>really is no president for it in my life. Of

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<v Speaker 4>like the wrecking ball he came in with, if you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the fear he created among everybody. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 4>can be president forever. Maybe we have no laws anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe no courts anymore. Really what's happening now is that

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<v Speaker 4>this is a guy who promised a bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 4>to people and they're looking around and they didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the idea of the war in Iran is

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<v Speaker 4>he said, no new wars. He said, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to do wars, and now we're doing a war. He said.

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<v Speaker 4>Prices are going to go down because of these stupid,

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<v Speaker 4>woke democrats. They can't figure out how to make prices

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<v Speaker 4>go down. I can do it, can't do it. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that when you look at some of these

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<v Speaker 4>pull numbers that I've seen, it's you know, in the

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<v Speaker 4>seventies of people saying he doesn't have our priorities, he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't have American priorities as his top priorities. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the kind of stuff that dogged other presidents that sort

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<v Speaker 4>of head to a bad elections that the public just

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<v Speaker 4>is sort of looking at them and saying, I no

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<v Speaker 4>longer buy this stuff from you. I don't believe that

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<v Speaker 4>you can do the things you said you were going

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<v Speaker 4>to do, And in works in the case of Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>they're saying, I don't think that you even were serious

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<v Speaker 4>about doing those things at this point, like where like

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<v Speaker 4>we're in a way. It was like it was like

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<v Speaker 4>the main Trump thing if you were not like total

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<v Speaker 4>a total culture warrior type, the main thing with Trump

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<v Speaker 4>is well, look, everybody else is going to do a war.

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<v Speaker 4>He's not going to do it. And he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>So his disapproval for inflation is seventy percent according to

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<v Speaker 1>the aggregates from Silver and it is. His approval on

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<v Speaker 1>inflation is twenty seven point one percent, which is pretty spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you pull on trade, it's not so

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<v Speaker 1>far away from the inflation numbers and the economy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all about the same, you know, but inflation certainly

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<v Speaker 1>is worse. Like to have seventy percent of Americans disapprove

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<v Speaker 1>of how you are on inflation when you ran on

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<v Speaker 1>lower inflation is kind of amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and he used to sort of have the power,

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<v Speaker 4>the power that he was supposed to bring when when

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<v Speaker 4>the Iran warforce started. You talk to a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>people in Congress. We talked a bunch of them Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>in Congress, and they would say, okay, look, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they would honestly say, like yes, we used to say

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<v Speaker 4>get being higher bad. Now it's good because we're fighting

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<v Speaker 4>for freedom of Americans and the American safety and we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to the President's going to make this case for us,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're going to have this We're going to rally

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<v Speaker 4>around this guy. That has not happened, right, the big

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful bill that they all had to pass, which he

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<v Speaker 4>had to push through. I mean, a lot of them

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<v Speaker 4>did not want to do it, and it twists a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of arms push a lot of people through. You

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<v Speaker 4>that power that he had to make it happen. They

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<v Speaker 4>were like, Okay, well, that's fine, because at least we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to have these taxes and stuff, and he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to go out there with hdreetorical power and he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to sell this stuff for us, and we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>able to stand there and talk about no taxes on

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<v Speaker 4>tips or you know, no taxes on overtime or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it is. We're going to talk about all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And none of that has happened either. The President is

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<v Speaker 4>not out there talking about those issues. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 4>you think, I think a perfect case of this is

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<v Speaker 4>that election integrity speech that he made on TV like

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<v Speaker 4>a few weeks ago when everybody was sort of geared

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<v Speaker 4>up for this thing. Bernie Moreno, the Senator from Ohio

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<v Speaker 4>Republican Center from Ohio. We're talking about this is like

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<v Speaker 4>the most important speech in the Cuba missile crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>They as like this is going to be like this

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<v Speaker 4>Trump is back, right, And I would talking to people

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<v Speaker 4>before that speech started who were very nervous about the speech,

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<v Speaker 4>people who are involved in election integrity who were very

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<v Speaker 4>scared that this speech was going to be sort of

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<v Speaker 4>the full Trump two point zero or Trump like doing

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<v Speaker 4>a thing that would move everything from there on out right,

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<v Speaker 4>which which he's been able to do. Instead, this speech

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<v Speaker 4>opened up with this weird rambling defense of all his

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<v Speaker 4>domestic stuff that I think landed fairly flat with everybody, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the election stuff kind of he said it

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<v Speaker 4>and it kind of went nowhere. Now this is this

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<v Speaker 4>is it? I mean, what more do you need to

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<v Speaker 4>know than he is using and the most powerful thing

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<v Speaker 4>he has, which is his own voice, and at a

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<v Speaker 4>joint stretch in of Congress that he was able to

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<v Speaker 4>create the kind of excitement among his supporters in Congress

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<v Speaker 4>for this thing, and then he kind of just like

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<v Speaker 4>nothing happened, because that's sort of where he's at right now.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the polls are showing that this is

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<v Speaker 4>not a guy who can go out there and say

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<v Speaker 4>I demand this. You guys should believe me, and they

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<v Speaker 4>do and they used to and they don't right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's exactly what I'm saying that Democrats have are

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<v Speaker 4>in a good position with that because every step he

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<v Speaker 4>makes it seems to be the wrong one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we're still talking about the ballroom. We're still talking about

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<v Speaker 4>the new air Force one. We're still talking about I

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<v Speaker 4>mean now Dallas Airport. I mean like, yeah, no, no

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<v Speaker 4>in DC don't like Dallas Airport. Who cares about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So get Donald Trump, and this is a really good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans need him to go on and end inflation and

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<v Speaker 1>make this case. You know that he's going to lower

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<v Speaker 1>inflation to get the base excited. But instead Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is laser focused on the reflecting pool in the ballroom.

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<v Speaker 1>And this and the that the Wall Street Journal reporting

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<v Speaker 1>today is really good piece in the Journal headed by

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Daucy and another three reporters talking about how Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has a fundraiser who basically calls up and says,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to meet with the president. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to meet with the president, we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to need some money for the library. It's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>shocking piece all in talk to me about this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that it's like quid pro cool but plus plus plus

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, the corruption and stuff, it's funny. Early

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<v Speaker 4>on in the Trump trumpet.

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<v Speaker 3>We know.

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<v Speaker 4>I also talked to a prominent person involved in you know,

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<v Speaker 4>trying to you know, campaign finance stuff about corruption and

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<v Speaker 4>running on corruption, and they specifically said, you know that

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<v Speaker 4>they've done a bunch of focus groups on this, and

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<v Speaker 4>you couldn't really touch Trump with corruption. You try to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about that, voters and focus groups would say, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he takes money, but like he's so rich it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 4>Like he does whatever he wants anyway. And it was

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<v Speaker 4>other Republicans who wouldn't you know that they would get

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<v Speaker 4>sort of hard with it, like if they were in

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<v Speaker 4>the room with him. People think that those Republicans were

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<v Speaker 4>sort of the ones who are taking the money. But

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<v Speaker 4>we're seeing more and more and more of these stories

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<v Speaker 4>now and it seems like that kind of stuff is

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<v Speaker 4>sort of changing. I mean, look, let's take it all

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<v Speaker 4>the way back to twenty sixteen, right, Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 4>the reason why the Republican Party regained any credibility in

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<v Speaker 4>the American electorate. The Republican Party was absolute trash in

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<v Speaker 4>the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen time. And Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 4>the reason why they are back in power, why they

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<v Speaker 4>got the power that they got, and that's the reason

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<v Speaker 4>why they love him, why they rally around him. But

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<v Speaker 4>it also is sort of, you know, all those eggs

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<v Speaker 4>are in one basket, and when it stops working, they

0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.040
<v Speaker 4>don't have a backup plan. Like I mean, the Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>are of course in a very active identity crisis right now.

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<v Speaker 4>What are they doing, who's in charge? What are they like?

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<v Speaker 4>What are they not like? But there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>different people having those conversations. You can see in some

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<v Speaker 4>of these places, some of these districts, right, you can see,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, somebody catches fire and builds a constituency, right

0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.720
<v Speaker 4>like a mom Donnie emerges. But maybe also some of

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<v Speaker 4>these other people are also you know, but loss off too.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all doing their thing separately because they're kind of

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<v Speaker 4>don't have a leader. The Republicans, they can't really be

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<v Speaker 4>in the same room unless Trump tells them that they're

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be in there. And when he can no

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<v Speaker 4>longer kind of after the attention that they need. When

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<v Speaker 4>these poll numbers are this bad, you can see they're

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like stumbling around looking to see what to

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<v Speaker 4>do because they don't really have an idea, right, they

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<v Speaker 4>don't really have a plan. Yeah, Mike Johnson said the

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<v Speaker 4>other day, you know, don't worry that God is on

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<v Speaker 4>our side where the midterms or whatever. This thing that

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<v Speaker 4>he said that is like not a message, but that

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<v Speaker 4>is sort of what they have. It really was that

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump was going to save us and it's not

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<v Speaker 4>really happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So you have these bad polls, but in a

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<v Speaker 1>normal party, the president would say, well, you need to win,

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<v Speaker 1>so just run against me. You can have some daylight here.

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<v Speaker 1>And we saw some reporting and I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>accurate this was when Trump went to Michigan, that he

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<v Speaker 1>was giving other Republicans space to have daylight from him, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he went to a district that where it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit less maga and that there was something you

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<v Speaker 1>you saw the reporting. I don't totally buy it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, look you can just look at like, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 4>the political people that he has around them are doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>You can just see for example, it wasn't that long

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<v Speaker 4>ago that he tweeted or a post on true Social

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you want to say, that sus and Collins should

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<v Speaker 4>not be re elected. She should not be in Congress anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>She's crossed me on this on the big deal. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like her anymore. She needs to go. And now

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<v Speaker 4>you know this is a guy, you know, he's attacked

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<v Speaker 4>her opponents said the chiefs stick around. And also you

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<v Speaker 4>know with this whole you know, you know, when she

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<v Speaker 4>came calling about Ice, all of a sudden, Ice changed

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<v Speaker 4>its policies. There is politics going on. But the problem is,

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<v Speaker 4>like we've never seen Trump sort of able to actually

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<v Speaker 4>follow through on this. I mean, if you're a publican

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<v Speaker 4>elected official, right you think all the way back to

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<v Speaker 4>any of them, right, like Mike Fence, Kevin McCarthy, all

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<v Speaker 4>the way to like John Cornyan. Right, this is not

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<v Speaker 4>a recipe for advancements in the Republican parties to put

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<v Speaker 4>distance between yourself and Trump. Maybe he's maybe, maybe he's

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<v Speaker 4>laying the groundwork for it, but it's hard to imagine

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<v Speaker 4>kind of thinking this is a good idea, this is

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<v Speaker 4>what I'll do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, how would it even work? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Cornyn didn't even mean to put any distance between him.

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<v Speaker 1>They spent millions and millions of dollars Republican donors trying

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<v Speaker 1>to keep Cornyn alive in the race, and then Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was like, I like Packson more. I mean, now

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<v Speaker 1>that the primary is over, imagine like a Republican senator

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<v Speaker 1>being like, yeah, I'm not into it anymore. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be able to like be unmaga enough

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<v Speaker 1>to convince voters that you are your own person, but

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<v Speaker 1>maga enough to not lose maga.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all. Yes, it's an angry electorate you're dealing with too.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you watch I mean you saw Thomas Massey.

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<v Speaker 4>Thomas Massey, you know my colleague Alex, she went to

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<v Speaker 4>that race and of a lot of reporting on it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that if you watch Thomas Massey's own ads,

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<v Speaker 4>he was like with Trump all time in the ads.

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<v Speaker 4>I love Trump. I vote for him all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>I vote with all this stuff all the time. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just the guy. Really, like what I am actually is

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<v Speaker 4>like a more pure version of what Trump is doing.

0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:11.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm the real guy. I'm the real thing, is what

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<v Speaker 4>Thomas Massey is saying. And he got crushed. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it was, it was it was naturally meaningless conversation. And

0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:19.199
<v Speaker 4>this guy had a track record too, right, like the

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<v Speaker 4>Epstein Files thing. People wanted that done, Maga wanted it

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<v Speaker 4>like this is this is the issue is that they

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<v Speaker 4>try the you know Massy you know is his own figure.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got his own weirdness, I guess. But he really

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.400
<v Speaker 4>did run a campaign that was like, no, no, I'm

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 4>not saying that what Trump wants is bad, like I

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 4>am for a lot of this stuff. I have always

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 4>backed him on the things I'm saying, here's where he's

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.400
<v Speaker 4>messed up. Here's where he's gone too far, Here's where

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.120
<v Speaker 4>he's lost us, here's the mistakes, and he's making kind

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 4>of like a sort of hey, I don't love all

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.399
<v Speaker 4>this stuff and including things and people don't like like

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:59.720
<v Speaker 4>the Iran War. Increasing like APAs.

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Want the Iran War done no matter what.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and it had no real impact. Now if you

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:09.160
<v Speaker 4>look at something like Maine again, Susan Collins, who has

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 4>a record of being an independent sort of voice. She

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.159
<v Speaker 4>has a commercial but we had that in the Notice News. Ever,

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 4>the other day she has this commercial. It's very like

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 4>loud and proud, I did not vote for those Medicaid cuts.

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Now anybody tells you that I did, they are lying.

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:27.360
<v Speaker 4>This is an ad. This is not from a super

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 4>paxted reporting yard. This is an ad from her own campaign.

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 4>That's how seriously she is taking putting distance between herself

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 4>and Trump's policy. She's like bagging people really to understand

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 4>that she did not support this stuff. She has that

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 4>track record. You know, We'll see what happens there. But

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 4>the hard thing is is that like you don't you

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 4>can't really see Trump being like, yeah, you know, and

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 4>I admired her for that vote, you know whatever, right,

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 4>which is what she kind of needs maybe for some

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:59.440
<v Speaker 4>of these mega people just stick with her. And that's

0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 4>that is real challenge, is that, like it's like this

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 4>is a Trump is a singular figure and when that

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 4>turns on you, where are you?

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a really good point. And we

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:14.400
<v Speaker 1>were just talking about Maine before we started recording, because

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I have this theory that Troy Jackson and again early days,

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>but it seems like he certainly is Maine. You know,

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>he's fifth generation main, he's a lagger, He's like in

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>some ways, really what Grand Platiner pretended to be right.

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I say, this is a NEPO baby myself,

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>grand Platiner, the Platiner furniture. You know, a fancy designer,

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the grandson of a fancy designer, the son of a

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 1>banker who had a main country house. It's not quite

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the same as a fifth generation locker.

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 4>Right from a tiny pound of like two hundred and

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 4>seventy people or something like that. Like, yeah, look, I

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 4>mean we talked about that before. Like Democrats have crossed

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 4>the first hurdle here, which is that they have united

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.159
<v Speaker 4>around this guy. Yeah, and that was their problem was

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 4>like how divided were they going to be after this

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 4>Platiner apocalypse? And they had Lokay, so they're united, but

0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:09.120
<v Speaker 4>they all he got.

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Like six hundred and seventy nine delegates of seven hundred

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and ten or something.

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of this very tight process, but like it seems

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 4>like everybody should have got on board. And the DS

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, he's met with Schumer now, Bernie

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 4>likes him. He's got like there's like two guys really

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 4>that are like these guys. There's a guy in Pennsylvania,

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.439
<v Speaker 4>Bob Brooks, that fireman. He's the only guy that can

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 4>have like jos Shapiro and Bernie Sanders on the same stage.

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, been on this podcast.

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 4>Continue it's a great this is why, this is why,

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 4>so it's a good podcast. And then and then you

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 4>have you know, then I think Troy Jackson is the same,

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 4>right where like Schumer and Bernie could both sort of

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 4>stand next to this guy and it would kind of work.

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 4>So this is all good for them, but they have

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 4>had a lot. But you know, like the whole question

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 4>with that is that like Collins is sort of nobody thinks.

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 1>That of her is tes Kaiser, so she can wait.

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 1>She carry right, and she's guys aer, so she's won

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times when people had her down.

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:04.959
<v Speaker 4>But I will say this, the polls the way they

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 4>look right now, right Democrats are freaking out and maybe

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 4>rightly so Michigan next week and they'll be quite interesting.

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 4>We'll see what happens in Wisconsin too. But these are

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 4>the polls that really look like any Democrat will do

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 4>kind of polls like the way they are right now.

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 4>You know, we have a long way to go yet.

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Democratic brand is very bad. There's a lot of things

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 4>to deal with. But when you look at how bad

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 4>Trump's numbers are and that the numbers are really like

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 4>he no longer backs our priority, he doesn't believe in

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 4>us anymore. He doesn't support what we need to be

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 4>him to be doing anymore. You know, he's not doing

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 4>the things that we want him to do anymore. That

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 4>is the angriest people who are going to vote people

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 4>who don't like him, and that is a really good

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:45.680
<v Speaker 4>sign for anybody who's not a Republican.

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>And those enthusiasm numbers the Democrats, and you know we're

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 1>leading by ten fifteen points on enthusiasm, then Republican voters

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>are not enthusiastic. I just want to add one last

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>thing about the Troy Jackson thing, which I think is

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>relevant and important. When we were talking about this before,

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>he has said he will not vote for Schumer, but

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>he will be supported by the Democratic senatorial campaign. And

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>in my mind, that is the difference between Trump and

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 1>the Democrats going into this election, among other things, is

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>that you have an atmosphere where Democrats can get money

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 1>from the party but still run as independence or say

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to vote for Schumer. And do I

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 1>think Troy Jackson will vote for Schumer as leader? Absolutely not.

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Do I think Schumer knows that? Yes? Do I think

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that they will? He will still get money Jackson demo

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>from Democratic senatorial machine.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Yes, well we saw she were doing this in Michigan

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 4>before Malliam mcmarrow dropped out. But he was also like,

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 4>he's like, I'm okay with it. You know, she ran

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 4>very strong on not supporting him. Yes, I mean these

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 4>are guys who there are some political sacrifices being made.

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, the actual race in Michigan itself is

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 4>Gary Peters was like, I'm too old and don't want

0:28:58.120 --> 0:28:59.959
<v Speaker 4>to do this. We should let some the next generation

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 4>come in, and they're having this like very loud debate

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 4>about what the next generation should be in the Democratic Party.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 4>But that sort of allows for some of this energy

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 4>and enthusiasm to flow in to the election. Yes, this

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 4>is the whole thing is that people who have said

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 4>in opportune moments, you know, like for example, January seventh,

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty one, and hey, that was bad, but that

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 4>what Trump led, that riot at the capitol that almost

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 4>got people kill bad that we did that, and that

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 4>is enough to lose his support forever. So this is

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 4>a very different situation. This is what I'm talking about. Like,

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:39.959
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't like even if you get a call from

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 4>e chuse you wil saying listen, go for it, trash him,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 4>We're good with it. Yeah, you got to be thinking

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 4>to yourself, is he going.

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 5>To be good with it?

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 4>Like what you like? What's going to happen to me

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 4>if I do this? Which is a very different political environment.

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 4>He for a long time has caused contranation among Republicans

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 4>because he doesn't seem that interested in building the party

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 4>in party politics. And that's all well and good until

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 4>you hit your midterm election and then all of a

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.959
<v Speaker 4>sudden you find yourself with a Congress that can now

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 4>do oversight against you, and your second term is basically over.

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 4>And I think that, like you know, a lot of

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 4>presidents sort of wake up to that kind of late,

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 4>and it seems like this one's waking up to it,

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, very very late.

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Evan, Thank you, You're welcome.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Good to talk to you.

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Andy Kim is the junior senator from the great state

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>of New Jersey. Welcome, Welcome, Senator Andy Kim.

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 4>Thanks so much for having me.

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>You come to running for politics, to healthcare and through

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>your kids healthcare. I had a kid who had a

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of medical problems too, though not as severe as yours,

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>but anaphloctive food allergies. Piece now an adult. So that's great,

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.959
<v Speaker 1>But I would love you to talk about sort of

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>how your son's medical issues got you to run for office, right.

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, you're absolutely right. I mean, first of all,

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm a son of a polio survivor, so

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 5>my father had polio since he was a baby. My

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, younger son unfortunately had some health issues even

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 5>before he was born. There was growth challenges in the womb.

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 5>We were uncertain what was going to happen going forward,

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 5>and I had so much anxiety as a dad. My

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 5>wife was so worried. And meanwhile, at the time, my

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 5>congressman back this back in twenty seventeen, my congressman was

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 5>the one leading the charge on gutting pre existing condition

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 5>protections as part of that effort to unravel the ACA.

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 5>And so that's what prompted me to run for Congress,

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 5>is that I was I was just so angry that

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 5>my own congressman was attacking pre existing condition which my

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 5>father had, my mother has, my little boy, who, for

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 5>no fault of his own. You know had issues, and

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 5>so you know, thankful we were able to get early

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 5>medical care. We learned how to be able to to

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 5>support and like I'm happy to say, like he's at

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 5>like tennis camp right now and all star on his

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 5>soccer team, Like he is such an energetic and athletic boy.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>But like that's so you never stop worrying, right, I'm

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>sorry to interrupt you, because I have a twenty two

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>year old and I'm still like, did you bring the

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>EPP events?

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:24.959
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, you never stop worrying. Also, like you never

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 5>know when something's gonna happen, and especially with kids. I mean,

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.479
<v Speaker 5>the things that I learned as I've been going through

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 5>this journey of the last few years of trying to

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 5>think about how do we fix healthcare in this country,

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 5>but particularly for kids, what I really came to understand

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 5>is that healthcare for kids is different. You know, their

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 5>bodies are growing, their brains are developing. We can't just

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 5>think about them as little adults. That's what like a

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 5>lot of experts say, they're not little adults. They cannot

0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 5>just have some you know, like some like you know,

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 5>leftover or something derivative part of adult healthcare, right, they're

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 5>not just like add ons to your employer base, like

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 5>they need something specific for them, you know. So that's

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 5>really what I've been undergoing for the last eight years,

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 5>is like thinking through, Yes, okay, I beat my congressman,

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 5>and I we stop them from gutting the Affordable Care

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 5>Act there, but what is you know, what is my

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 5>idea on how to solve how to fix this? Because

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 5>we know healthcare wasn't perfect already. You know, we have

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 5>seen Trump gut Medicaid. You know, they're two up to upwards,

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 5>so close to one point seventy five the two million

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 5>kids fewer on Medicaid right now than at the beginning

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 5>of his administration. So we're moving in the wrong direction.

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 5>But I really spend years trying to think through, well,

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 5>how do we actually fix this? How do we try

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 5>to solve it? Not just how do we get back

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 5>to where things were before Trump, you know, which wasn't

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 5>good to start with, but how do we try to

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 5>fix it? And that's what led me to this idea

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 5>of introducing last week this you know, seminole bill of

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 5>mind called Meda Kids, which is guarantee for health care

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 5>for every child.

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about medic kids. It takes a page

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>from Obamacare a little bit, right like the age the

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>setup talk us through how you got here.

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the idea is that it would guarantee every kid

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 5>in this country healthcare from birth until twenty six So

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 5>yes on the twenty sixth side rights where Obamacare allowed

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 5>people to stay on their parents' coverage and look in

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 5>part because again we're talking about the period of physical

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 5>and brain development, right, your physical body brain development, like

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 5>well into their twenties, and so I think there's good

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 5>reason for that. But my bill is different though, insofar

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 5>as it covers everyone, every child. So the idea is

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 5>that there's automatic enrollment upon birth of every child in

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 5>this country. So never again will some parents have to

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 5>worry about filling out some for before they're covered. You know,

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 5>if you have a kid in the nick you you

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 5>never you don't have to worry at all about costs

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 5>or coverage.

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 4>It's automatic enrollment.

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 5>Because so much of the problem that we see that

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 5>the Trump administration is weaponizing is using you know, bureaucracy,

0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 5>using paperwork, using uh, you know, onerous efforts to have

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 5>to do employer verification and other things like that. They're

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.439
<v Speaker 5>using that to cut people off, you know, like why

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 5>else would they be requiring, you know, kids that have

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 5>permanent disabilities to have to recertify.

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Now it's not like.

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 5>Those disabilities are going Yeah, so like you know that

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 5>that's done to weaponize and to make it harder for

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 5>these families. So yeah, so my mind would do that,

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 5>and it would provide it would automatically enroll into medic kids,

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 5>which I try to envision as sort of this bookend

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 5>to medicare. You know, we have this guaranteed health care

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 5>later in your life, but in many ways we need

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 5>it at the front end of your life because that's

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 5>when it again, you really need to ensure that you

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 5>are not just getting care when you're sick, but like

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 5>you're being screened for any type of problems or illnesses

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 5>or issues that you're able to get early intervention. That

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 5>you have to prioritize preventative care for kids. And so

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 5>that's really the vision, and I'm excited because right now, look,

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 5>we have four point four million kids in this country

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:29.919
<v Speaker 5>without health insurance, twenty three million that are underinsured, which

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 5>means their healthcare coverage doesn't meet their needs. That's insane

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 5>that over twenty seven million kids are either uninsured or

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 5>underinsured in the richest, most powerful country in the world.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.879
<v Speaker 5>So I'm excited to have this vision that would bring

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 5>both of those numbers down to zero and that we

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 5>can actually join just the kind of rights that we

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 5>should be having for our kids and saying that every

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 5>single one of you will be insured, regardless of your

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 5>family's circumstances, the decisions that your parents made, or income

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 5>or anything like that, because these are you know, that's

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 5>no fault of their own in terms of the circumstances

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.359
<v Speaker 5>in which they live, so they shouldn't be punished for them.

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>But the other thing is that it would ultimately probably

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>save a lot of money on the hospital side, right,

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:26.240
<v Speaker 1>talk us through like pediatric ICUs, pediatric hospitalizations, like there

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is quite a lot of expense. What happens when people

0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>don't have healthcare is they use emergency rooms as you know,

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>treatment centers, and they end up clogging up emergency rooms,

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.279
<v Speaker 1>using those doctors, using those resources, which ultimately puts more

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>of a strain and is more expensive. Right.

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's absolutely right, and we've seen it bear out,

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, like for you know, every dollar that we

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:53.800
<v Speaker 5>see invested into medicaid for kids, which is the foundation

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 5>that I'm using to build you know, medicids. You know,

0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 5>we see ultimately our country gaining you know, every dollar

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 5>we put in, like you know, we're getting four dollars

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 5>of savings and productivity because again you're focusing on the

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 5>preventative side. You're screening every kid. Like, the great thing

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 5>about medicaid is that it is actually designed for kids,

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, more so than your employer based care or others. Like,

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 5>they have a very rigorous level of screenings based off

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 5>your age of things to look out for. And it's

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.240
<v Speaker 5>not just about physical health. It's also dental, it's vision.

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 5>At a time when over twelve million kids you know

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 5>don't have regular dental coverage and have vision challenges that

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 5>are not being fixed. You know, these are things that

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 5>again traditional healthcare often throws to the side. You know,

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 5>as you're you know, you have to buy all these

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 5>things separately. So you know, this is something that's comprehensive

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 5>and yes, it's something that we know is going to

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 5>help on the preventative side, you know, so that we're

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.320
<v Speaker 5>not waiting until there's some type of problem that manifests

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 5>later on the other thing, Molly is just like like

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 5>healthy kids means healthier adults, right Like, it's not brain

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.800
<v Speaker 5>it's not like rocket science, right Like, it's not brain surgery.

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 5>Like it's gonna be then a healthier workforce and lower

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 5>overall health care costs for our country. We know the

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 5>challenges with chronic disease, with all sorts of issues that

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 5>we know often start when someone is a kid. Then

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.959
<v Speaker 5>you don't have the treatments or you don't have good

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 5>health practices early on, and it causes real problems down

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 5>the road. This would also provide universal mental health coverage,

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 5>which right now, I mean, like I'm hearing from everybody,

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 5>from parents, the teachers, to others saying that there's a

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 5>mental health crisis right now in the country for kids.

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 5>And I see it as a parent of a nine

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 5>year old and a ten year old, and whether that's

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, because of just broader anxieties or social media

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 5>and other thing mobile phones and other things, regardless of that,

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 5>Like we need to try to treat this, but right

0:39:59.800 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 5>now we don't even have school nurses at every single school,

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 5>right like, we have underinvested you know what comes to

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 5>these issues, and they manifest sometimes in exceedingly tragic ways,

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:13.720
<v Speaker 5>like school shootings or other types of problems. So like again,

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 5>like this is something that can solve this. I am

0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 5>trying to put forward a simple vision for this under

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 5>this brand of medic kids that I think people can understand.

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 5>You know, if ever there was a group of people

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 5>in this country that we want to guarantee healthcare for,

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 5>it's our kids. I want it for everybody, and I

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 5>want to keep pushing to get there. But at least

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 5>we can start with the strongest possible argument here and

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:41.359
<v Speaker 5>be able to support them.

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>So voters are mad at Republicans, but they're also mad

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>at Democrats. And part of one of the things you're

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>doing here is you're showing a sort of broad, really

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I think thoughtful and important piece of legislation. One of

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the things that gets me upset is the lack of

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 1>regulation when it comes to data centers. I mean, I

0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>know voters are really furious about data centers because that's

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 1>something we broadly see. But you know, technology, we're talking

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 1>about kids, we're talking about social media, Like these are

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 1>things that actually you guys can regulate. What's your take

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 1>on this moment, you know, like if Democrats win back

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the House, which I mean I think We're going to

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>go through a lot of stuff before that happens, but

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, there will be hopefully a Democratic House, maybe

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:38.720
<v Speaker 1>even a Democratic Senate. What is this sort of plan

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>for after Trump when it comes to regulation and also

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, really nailing down government. Yeah.

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, I say this as someone who ran in

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 5>the twenty eighteen midterms, right, So I ran during the

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 5>time when Trump is president of Republicans called control Congress

0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 5>and we flipped the House. And what it was it's

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 5>important then and the same thing remains now, which is

0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 5>that we cannot only be talking about the things that

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 5>we're opposed to. You know, so I told you I'm

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:13.280
<v Speaker 5>opposed to Trump's cutting of Medicaid and given billionaires giant

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 5>tax cuts, with that money surging up funds for ice.

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 5>But we have to put forward our own vision and

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 5>what it is that we're trying to do. In twenty eighteen,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:25.320
<v Speaker 5>we talked about, you know, lower and prescription drug costs,

0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 5>about allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, about tangible things

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 5>that put a vision forward for what we stand for.

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 5>It wasn't enough for me to just say I oppose

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 5>their efforts to gut the affordable Care Act. So we

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:41.439
<v Speaker 5>need this now. This is why I introduced medicids last week,

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 5>is because I want those big ideas out there. I

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 5>want candidates to be talking about medicids. I want them

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 5>to be talking about a guarantee for health care for

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 5>every child, because I think that parents and families all

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 5>across the country understand that, and they also understand the

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 5>affordability problems of healthcare, and this would help save a

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 5>lot of money for a lot of families that are

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:07.919
<v Speaker 5>wondering how they're going to piece together their family budget.

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 5>So those are the types of things that the party

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 5>needs to push on. I absolutely hope we win gabbles,

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 5>and I think I think we're in a good place

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 5>to do so. But the last thing we want is

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 5>to win the House and or the Senate and then

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 5>the next day be like, okay, well now what do

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 5>we do? Like we need to know first of all, yes,

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 5>we need to know on the oversight side, like what

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 5>investigations are we going to do with the Trump administration?

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.879
<v Speaker 5>Who are we subpoenaing, What is the agenda that we're

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 5>going to do to hold their feet to the fire,

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:44.840
<v Speaker 5>expose the corruption that we see so blatant in front

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 5>of our eyes that this administration and the Trump family

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 5>are perpetrating against the American people. But we also have

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 5>to think through what's going to be HR one, our

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.280
<v Speaker 5>first bill, what's going to be two, three, four or five?

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:59.760
<v Speaker 5>You know, those need to be things that we're thinking

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 5>through through now. And that's what I'm feeding this into

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 5>is that with medic kids, this is not only a

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 5>bold idea, but it's doable. It's implementable, Like, we can

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 5>actually do this. This is not some messaging bill. This

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 5>is something that I just I aspire towards if in

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 5>a decade or two, Like it's doable. I designed the

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 5>bill in a way that can be implemented if we

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 5>were in a take back power and that's what we

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.399
<v Speaker 5>need more of, you know, we need to be thinking through. Yes,

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:32.240
<v Speaker 5>the American people hopefully will will give us the honor

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 5>of leading in Congress, but then what do we do

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:38.280
<v Speaker 5>with that? And that's going to ultimately then build into

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 5>the fight and the race for the White House. So

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm already you know, I've already raised you know, talk

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 5>to presidentially like a potential presidential candidates and others, you

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 5>know about this exact thing, which is we need to

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 5>have our forward agenda and medic kids and and things

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 5>about you know, affordability, things about you know, securing you know,

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 5>our or safety internationally like these are critical that we

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:05.320
<v Speaker 5>have moving forward.

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 4>And so that's really where the push is.

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:12.879
<v Speaker 5>And I hope that people across this country demand those

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 5>types of ideas, and I hope candidates are going out

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:21.439
<v Speaker 5>there and building excitement around this. I've heard some real

0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 5>excitement from people about medicids and other ideas here where

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 5>people are like, yeah, that's something I can before and

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 5>that's something I can rally people around.

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to medicaid party, which is this drug

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 1>price negotiation thing we saw that Mehmet Oz. Doctor Oz

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 1>has said that it basically the ending it right. They're

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>not paying out, they're not making it. They're making it

0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.919
<v Speaker 1>more expensive to get drugs. Doctor Oz's answer was, it's

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 1>paying all this money to drug companies, which is the point.

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>But okay, RFK Junior not into it. This seems like

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it's going to make drugs a lot more expensive. What's

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>your understanding of what this is going to do.

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm really worried about that because again, this was

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, with part dy of medicare. We knew that

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 5>this was something that was was helping address the needs

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 5>that so many Americans face. Yes, they were improvements that

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 5>needed to be made, which is why we needed to

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 5>make sure that we could allow medicaid to negotiate drug prices,

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 5>something that the Trump administration has has taken their foot

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.839
<v Speaker 5>off the gas and made it harder. And so they

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 5>have no right to complain about this when they have

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 5>been sabotaging every element of this along the way. You know,

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 5>So this is clearly you know, something where they have

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.399
<v Speaker 5>you know, sabotage and then lo and behold, say, oh

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 5>it's not working, so we just got to get rid

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 5>of the whole thing. That's how they're That's what they're

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 5>doing with everything we saw with the dismantling of USAI D.

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 5>We see it with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. They

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 5>sabotage something and then say it's not working, right, and

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.320
<v Speaker 5>so like like the fact that they feel so bold

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 5>to go after medicare, I mean, it just shows you

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:07.800
<v Speaker 5>just how extreme they are. And what they're doing is

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 5>they're banking on the idea that the American people aren't

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 5>going to be able to focus in on this and

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 5>understand what's going on and how this is going to

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 5>raise costs. So we need to make sure that we're

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 5>focused on this, that we see how the tariffs have

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 5>been raising costs for healthcare, for prescription drugs, for other

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 5>things that we need in our lives. You know, this

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 5>is something where the President has been moving us in

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 5>that direction of high costs. Meanwhile, he himself is profiting

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 5>off of the Oval Office to the tune of billions

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 5>of dollars.

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:44.799
<v Speaker 4>For him.

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 5>It's family and so that's the contrast that needs to happen.

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 5>It's like, you know, the Trump family has made billions

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<v Speaker 5>of dollars since January twentieth, twenty twenty five. How much

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<v Speaker 5>has your family made in the last year and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think we can really see who the government

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<v Speaker 5>right now is working for. It's not us, it's for

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<v Speaker 5>you know, those handful of people that we're up on

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<v Speaker 5>stage with Trump during his inauguration, They're the ones that

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<v Speaker 5>are benefiting from this.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Kim, how are you going to pay for medicaid

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<v Speaker 1>for medicaids?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, look, first of all, as we said, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>this is something that's gonna save us a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>money in the long run, but you know, in general,

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<v Speaker 5>when it comes to what comes next for the Democratic platform, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, look when we see what the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 5>has rolled back, these tax cuts for the billionaires, that

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<v Speaker 5>is what they gutted medicaid for you know, So yes,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to have to make sure that we're dismantling

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<v Speaker 5>what the Trump administration did with their reconciliation bill, that

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<v Speaker 5>big ugly bill and other things like that. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>what we need to do right now is put together

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<v Speaker 5>our platform of what it is that we're for and

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<v Speaker 5>be able to do the work, to be able to

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<v Speaker 5>make sure that we are doing this responsibly and coming

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<v Speaker 5>up with the ideas like you know, going against those

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<v Speaker 5>tax cuts for the billionaires, uh and making sure they're

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<v Speaker 5>paying their fair share. You know, those are the types

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<v Speaker 5>of things that we need to be pushing on and

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<v Speaker 5>that's how we'll be able to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is those billionaire taxes again? And you think

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<v Speaker 1>you can pay for him?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean look yeah, I mean like we saw

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<v Speaker 5>like absolute like loopholes for you know, for the billionaires.

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<v Speaker 5>We see, you know, how they've done everything that they

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<v Speaker 5>can to be able to you know, to to create

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<v Speaker 5>other loopholes, or to slash the corporate tax freate and

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<v Speaker 5>other types of things that they've been pushing on. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 5>they're trying to you know, create a you know, one

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<v Speaker 5>point five trillion dollar defense budget, pull money from what

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<v Speaker 5>we do on the domestic side for our families into

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 5>this bottomless pit of war with Iran. Like, those are

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<v Speaker 5>the things that we're going to have to make sure

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<v Speaker 5>that we are closing up and be able to redirect

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<v Speaker 5>the funds to where the American people want them, which

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<v Speaker 5>is to be able to help our families with the

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<v Speaker 5>costs of daily living. You know, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 5>Americans I talked to, they're not ad asking for the moon.

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<v Speaker 5>They're just asking him to be able to have some support,

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<v Speaker 5>to be able to afford the housing, to afford food,

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<v Speaker 5>to be able to afford you know, some medical care.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they're like, that is not too much to

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<v Speaker 5>ask for.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Kim, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 1>No no moment, Jesse Cannon, my drunk fast.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's all happening thanks to Tiss James. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that you and I just sit and baffle our

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<v Speaker 2>minds about Calshie and Poally market. Well, Tiss James is

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<v Speaker 2>coming for Calshie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who's not a Calshi partner us.

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<v Speaker 3>That is, I know we've both got the DM slide,

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<v Speaker 3>right right.

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<v Speaker 1>We both got DM slides. We are not ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to be Calshi partners. You know why because I have

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<v Speaker 1>an eighteen year old son, and I know that they

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<v Speaker 1>have targeted these kids and they're trying to make them

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<v Speaker 1>all gambling addicts, and it is so dangerous and like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I are both the same age, and we

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in a time when gambling was legal only

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas, New Jersey, parts of New Jersey, Atlantic City.

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<v Speaker 3>I as gonna say, yeah, like a few a few

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<v Speaker 3>select weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Districts of Native American reservations, and that was it. And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't you know, it was not the way it

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<v Speaker 1>is now. And like there's a reason for that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>highly It's like why we don't, you know, serve cocaine

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<v Speaker 1>in bars because it's very addictive stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Technically we were growing up there was that bar.

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<v Speaker 1>And anyway, the point is, the point is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>they don't serve cocaine in bars is the same reason

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<v Speaker 1>that we should not have Calshie on the internet which

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>is is very addictive and like our government may not

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<v Speaker 1>regulate anything, but they should regulate cigarettes and yimbling and

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<v Speaker 1>drugs and also pollution. That's it for this episode of

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