Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,
Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of
Speaker 1: today's best minds. And President Trump is polling at thirty
Speaker 1: two percent approval rating. We have such a great show
Speaker 1: for you today. Notices Evan mic Moros Santorro stops by
Speaker 1: to talk about Trump's new low in his approval rating.
Speaker 1: Then we'll talk to New Jersey Senator Andy Kim about
Speaker 1: his medikids proposal. But first the news.
Speaker 2: So Mally dald Trump has one fixation that is not decorating.
Speaker 2: Every time I see the Oval Office, there's some new
Speaker 2: gold bullshit up. But when he's not thinking of that,
Speaker 2: he's thinking of the Save Act. Even though Republicans are saying, please,
Speaker 2: please stop. Trump has never been very into consent.
Speaker 1: He's not going to pass the Save Act. You don't.
Speaker 1: You have all of these senators who do not want
Speaker 1: to knew the filibuster. You have the Yolo Caucus, Cornyn
Speaker 1: and till Us. You have the Utah senator who is
Speaker 1: already the new Utah Senator, the man who has Mett
Speaker 1: Romney seat, who has already said that he has concerns.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a junior Senator. There's no world in
Speaker 1: which Republicans break the filibuster to pass the Save Act
Speaker 1: by the August Research Recess, and Carolyn Lovett can say
Speaker 1: whatever she wants, it's not going to happen. First of all,
Speaker 1: even if they pass the Save Act, they wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to get it going because, first of all, federalizing
Speaker 1: elections would just go into court and court and it
Speaker 1: would be in court forever. You and I both know,
Speaker 1: because there's no world in which they could federalize elections
Speaker 1: in time between the primaries and the actual midterms. This
Speaker 1: is just like Donald Trump freaking out trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what he can do. And look. The other thing
Speaker 1: is the fact that Todd Blanche. You know, Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has this Todd Blanche nomination. It is not going to vote.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to go to a vote yesterday. They
Speaker 1: pulled it because Cornan's is said no, is not going
Speaker 1: to vote for it. Untill us too. So you have
Speaker 1: Donald Trump tweeting about John Cornyan. You cannot be tweeting
Speaker 1: about John Cornan and also asking John Cornan to kill
Speaker 1: the filibuster. It's just not how any of this works.
Speaker 1: So my gas is that none of this is going
Speaker 1: to happen, and they're about to go out to recess
Speaker 1: and what they come back, it'll be September.
Speaker 2: Could you clarify for me. So you're saying you think
Speaker 2: Todd Blanch is never going to get confirmed.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I think Todd Blanche is going to be acting. And
Speaker 1: in fact, what's so stupid about this is Trump is like, well,
Speaker 1: we're just going to wait until after the mid Trumps. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Cornan is from Texas, So maybe Trump gets Paxton. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I mean, if the polling is right today, he gets
Speaker 1: tell Rico, who is not voting to confirm Todd Blanche.
Speaker 1: And then that other seat, Tilla's seat. The Democrat is
Speaker 1: way up in North Carolina, and you know he's been
Speaker 1: on this podcast. Everybody's favorite governor of North Carolina, Roy Cooper.
Speaker 1: And there's a world in which those two senators are
Speaker 1: replaced by Democrats who are not going to vote for
Speaker 1: the Todd Blanche revolt. I mean, here's the thing about
Speaker 1: the Todd Blanche confirmation fight. These two Republicans want Todd
Speaker 1: Blanche to say that Donald Trump cannot have IRS immunity
Speaker 1: forever and ever. This is not some crazy ask here
Speaker 1: they want him to put in writing what he said
Speaker 1: during his hearings where he is at least ostensibly under
Speaker 1: o's I mean, this is not craziness, and he won't
Speaker 1: do it now, well, I won't Todd Blanche do it,
Speaker 1: probably because Donald Trump doesn't want him to. And this
Speaker 1: is where we are right. Cornon has refused to support
Speaker 1: Blanche's nomination over Trump's cushy settlement deal with the IRS
Speaker 1: and the fact that he won't put him. Writing that
Speaker 1: the IRS is a no go and that the one
Speaker 1: point eight billion dollars slush fund is a no go
Speaker 1: is proof. I think that Donald Trump still thinks he
Speaker 1: can get it from top Ranch. And I think also
Speaker 1: it's important to remember like Cornin and Tillis are not
Speaker 1: operating in vacuum. They see that Donald Trump is polling
Speaker 1: at Bush numbers, they see he's pulling at thirty two percent.
Speaker 1: They know that the IRS thing and the slush fund
Speaker 1: are both super unpopular, so like it's not going to
Speaker 1: get more popular. This is not a moment to try
Speaker 1: and pass some legislation which is like a very very
Speaker 1: controversial legislation that almost no one wants, Like if he
Speaker 1: wanted this, he should have tried to do it when
Speaker 1: he first got into office.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Somali, I am sure you've heard, since you're often
Speaker 2: on Morning Joe, that socialism was on the rise and
Speaker 2: we really need to be fearful of this. And by
Speaker 2: that I mean that Donald Trump's covers department quietly and
Speaker 2: now seven new equity stakes in private companies. Our socialist
Speaker 2: president is seizing the beads of production. How are you feeling, comrade, You.
Speaker 1: Stole my chick. So here's what's happening. Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: seizing the means of production. The Commerce Department headed by
Speaker 1: Howard Lutnik, who, as you may know, percent growth in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, you know, we have not that we
Speaker 1: have one percent, two percent. They're going to nationalize seven companies.
Speaker 1: What why? Because these people do not really believe in capitalism.
Speaker 1: And any time that Fox News insists that a Democrat
Speaker 1: wants to seize the companies, wants to seize the means
Speaker 1: of production, they should be referred directly to Howard Lutnik
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump and all of the people who are
Speaker 1: doing sketchy things with their beloved corporations, because none of
Speaker 1: this is how capitalism is supposed to work.
Speaker 3: On the socialist president, and I got Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Damn, that's right, baby. He's an atheist and he's a socialist,
Speaker 1: but not like you want.
Speaker 2: So I think that there's an interesting thing that you
Speaker 2: and I have been talking about a lot recently, which
Speaker 2: is that after Platner, a lot of people were shocked
Speaker 2: that Jenet Mills was still down six poids compared to Platner,
Speaker 2: even after the horrible accusations he had. So now we
Speaker 2: have a poll that I think is telling you, because
Speaker 2: I think Republicans got to this place first very obviously,
Speaker 2: that two and three bags of voters say they'd support
Speaker 2: a GOP kereded accused of sexual assault.
Speaker 1: So I read this totally differently. This is what happens
Speaker 1: when you have a party that no longer believes women.
Speaker 1: I hope that this is a partisan thing. And in fact,
Speaker 1: remember when Platner was accused of sexual assault or rape
Speaker 1: when he was when he was accused of rape, Democrats
Speaker 1: stopped supporting him. So I actually think that this is
Speaker 1: a partisan thing. I think that Republicans are so bought
Speaker 1: into Trump and trump Ism that they have decided, and
Speaker 1: the misogyny writ large of that that they have decided
Speaker 1: they will support Trump and trump Ism and assault. You know,
Speaker 1: here two and three mega voters say they'd support GOP
Speaker 1: candidate accused of sexual assault. I mean, basically, in order
Speaker 1: to support Trump, they've had to engage in the cognitive
Speaker 1: dissidents of saying, you know, they just don't believe women anymore.
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting because if you look at the
Speaker 1: Max Miller situation. So Max Miller as a congressman who
Speaker 1: has numerous allegations, had allegations from another girlfriend, now has
Speaker 1: allegations of violence of all sorts of terrible stuff. The
Speaker 1: allegations include that he broke the collar bone of their
Speaker 1: two year old daughter, that he poured scalding water on
Speaker 1: his wife. Now, his wife is the daughter of Republican
Speaker 1: Ohio Senator Bernie Marino, and Bernie has said nothing, right,
Speaker 1: he has said nothing as Max Miller runs for re election. Now,
Speaker 1: if it were my daughter, I would be shouting from
Speaker 1: the rooftops.
Speaker 2: Sofe was my daughter, I would I don't think his
Speaker 2: neck would exist anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean, I hope this is just limited
Speaker 1: to Republicans. I would like it if it were limited,
Speaker 1: if nobody were doing it but I think that it's
Speaker 1: a sort of believe no women scenario.
Speaker 3: I think you're right about that.
Speaker 2: I think that though one of the symptoms of this
Speaker 2: is is that people want change so bad in their
Speaker 2: everyday life that they're like basically having cognitive dissonances to
Speaker 2: try to get it because they're so desperate to have
Speaker 2: it stop.
Speaker 4: I hope not.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that it's just that Trump made
Speaker 1: Republican voters desensitize to it, and they will now go
Speaker 1: back to being normal, or head to being more normal
Speaker 1: or something. Evan McMorris Santoro is a reporter at Notice. Welcome.
Speaker 1: Welcome Evan.
Speaker 4: I'm Molly, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good because you know, I as it polls. I'm
Speaker 1: good because I'm looking at these disapproval So Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: he's basically as unpopular as he's ever been. He has
Speaker 1: hit the Bush line and thirty two percent approval rating.
Speaker 1: That is when you that is that is the worst
Speaker 1: it you can be.
Speaker 4: It's a pretty bad I mean, I mean, I mean
Speaker 4: you've seen I guess like sure, like George W. Bush
Speaker 4: at the Amazon the twenties, but like it's very, very
Speaker 4: bad for Trump, and it's especially bad for the Republicans
Speaker 4: because you know, their entire electoral project in twenty six
Speaker 4: is really like hinging on Trump. Like this is not
Speaker 4: a party that has gotten much distance from the president.
Speaker 4: They have like very specifically not done that. And I remember,
Speaker 4: you know, a few months ago, I was talking to
Speaker 4: Republicans strategists about the plan for the summer, you know,
Speaker 4: like what they were gonna do, and some of them
Speaker 4: even said they thought that maybe July fourth would be
Speaker 4: a highlight for them, that they're do this great moment
Speaker 4: where they could talk about you know, America and being
Speaker 4: patriots and how unpatriotic the Democrats are and have this
Speaker 4: great divide. And they had sure had this vision that
Speaker 4: this Iran war thing which would cand of be behind
Speaker 4: them and they would get and July would be a
Speaker 4: time when gas prices will be able to come down,
Speaker 4: we change the subject from some of this other stuff,
Speaker 4: and it would be like Trump will be back as
Speaker 4: a viable party leader for them. And really, the this
Speaker 4: month has ended with them in absolutely dire straits. I mean,
Speaker 4: these numbers are very, very bad, and the Republican nominees
Speaker 4: that are running across the country are still basically boxed
Speaker 4: in They can't really run away from Trump because that's
Speaker 4: not going to be make the base that that still
Speaker 4: really likes Trump happy, And they can't really you know,
Speaker 4: run towards him because that is incredibly toxic for the
Speaker 4: general electric So this is basically as good a position
Speaker 4: for the polls as Democrats could get. Really like, this
Speaker 4: is the case, This is like what they really really
Speaker 4: want to see happen has now happened, and there's more
Speaker 4: to come. I mean, you know, the thing is, the
Speaker 4: things that made the polls bad, like the Iran war
Speaker 4: and other things like that, those are still going on.
Speaker 4: Like we're not like in the there's no end in
Speaker 4: sight for these negative poll numbers. How they play out,
Speaker 4: I don't, you know, I'm not totally sure. It's a
Speaker 4: weird time with polls, with what to believe what not
Speaker 4: to believe. But when every poll is telling you the
Speaker 4: president is in a really really bad shape on polls
Speaker 4: and you're not seeing the president's team put out their
Speaker 4: own polls, you can assume that it's the numbers are
Speaker 4: pretty bad.
Speaker 1: So the polling is very connected to gas prices, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's connected to other stuff, but it's really
Speaker 1: connected a lot of this is on the economy. Certainly
Speaker 1: people don't like ice killing American citizens. They don't. But
Speaker 1: but most of this is the ability of the of
Speaker 1: an American voter to see Donald Trump and see him
Speaker 1: go into Iran, never make a case for it, and
Speaker 1: then go to the pump and see gas prices be higher,
Speaker 1: and then see Donald Trump say We're gonna make peace
Speaker 1: with Iron, and see gas prices go down, also possibly
Speaker 1: because they were using the reserve the oil, some reserved
Speaker 1: oil right to keep the prices low, and then see
Speaker 1: that the war is back on and that gas prices
Speaker 1: are up. I mean, like he has very clearly shown
Speaker 1: that he had some control over making gas prices go down,
Speaker 1: and now he no longer has that control.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, they try with that deal. You know. This
Speaker 4: is that thing where Trump is a regular president in
Speaker 4: a way that I think is kind of surprising given
Speaker 4: how he came into the second term. I mean, there
Speaker 4: really is no president for it in my life. Of
Speaker 4: like the wrecking ball he came in with, if you know,
Speaker 4: you know, the fear he created among everybody. Maybe he
Speaker 4: can be president forever. Maybe we have no laws anymore,
Speaker 4: maybe no courts anymore. Really what's happening now is that
Speaker 4: this is a guy who promised a bunch of stuff
Speaker 4: to people and they're looking around and they didn't get it.
Speaker 4: I mean, the idea of the war in Iran is
Speaker 4: he said, no new wars. He said, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to do wars, and now we're doing a war. He said.
Speaker 4: Prices are going to go down because of these stupid,
Speaker 4: woke democrats. They can't figure out how to make prices
Speaker 4: go down. I can do it, can't do it. And
Speaker 4: I think that when you look at some of these
Speaker 4: pull numbers that I've seen, it's you know, in the
Speaker 4: seventies of people saying he doesn't have our priorities, he
Speaker 4: doesn't have American priorities as his top priorities. This is
Speaker 4: the kind of stuff that dogged other presidents that sort
Speaker 4: of head to a bad elections that the public just
Speaker 4: is sort of looking at them and saying, I no
Speaker 4: longer buy this stuff from you. I don't believe that
Speaker 4: you can do the things you said you were going
Speaker 4: to do, And in works in the case of Trump,
Speaker 4: they're saying, I don't think that you even were serious
Speaker 4: about doing those things at this point, like where like
Speaker 4: we're in a way. It was like it was like
Speaker 4: the main Trump thing if you were not like total
Speaker 4: a total culture warrior type, the main thing with Trump
Speaker 4: is well, look, everybody else is going to do a war.
Speaker 4: He's not going to do it. And he did it.
Speaker 1: So his disapproval for inflation is seventy percent according to
Speaker 1: the aggregates from Silver and it is. His approval on
Speaker 1: inflation is twenty seven point one percent, which is pretty spectacular.
Speaker 1: And then if you pull on trade, it's not so
Speaker 1: far away from the inflation numbers and the economy. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're all about the same, you know, but inflation certainly
Speaker 1: is worse. Like to have seventy percent of Americans disapprove
Speaker 1: of how you are on inflation when you ran on
Speaker 1: lower inflation is kind of amazing.
Speaker 4: Well, and he used to sort of have the power,
Speaker 4: the power that he was supposed to bring when when
Speaker 4: the Iran warforce started. You talk to a bunch of
Speaker 4: people in Congress. We talked a bunch of them Republicans
Speaker 4: in Congress, and they would say, okay, look, I mean
Speaker 4: they would honestly say, like yes, we used to say
Speaker 4: get being higher bad. Now it's good because we're fighting
Speaker 4: for freedom of Americans and the American safety and we're
Speaker 4: going to the President's going to make this case for us,
Speaker 4: and we're going to have this We're going to rally
Speaker 4: around this guy. That has not happened, right, the big
Speaker 4: beautiful bill that they all had to pass, which he
Speaker 4: had to push through. I mean, a lot of them
Speaker 4: did not want to do it, and it twists a
Speaker 4: lot of arms push a lot of people through. You
Speaker 4: that power that he had to make it happen. They
Speaker 4: were like, Okay, well, that's fine, because at least we're
Speaker 4: going to have these taxes and stuff, and he's going
Speaker 4: to go out there with hdreetorical power and he's going
Speaker 4: to sell this stuff for us, and we're gonna be
Speaker 4: able to stand there and talk about no taxes on
Speaker 4: tips or you know, no taxes on overtime or whatever
Speaker 4: it is. We're going to talk about all this stuff.
Speaker 4: And none of that has happened either. The President is
Speaker 4: not out there talking about those issues. I mean, if
Speaker 4: you think, I think a perfect case of this is
Speaker 4: that election integrity speech that he made on TV like
Speaker 4: a few weeks ago when everybody was sort of geared
Speaker 4: up for this thing. Bernie Moreno, the Senator from Ohio
Speaker 4: Republican Center from Ohio. We're talking about this is like
Speaker 4: the most important speech in the Cuba missile crisis.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: They as like this is going to be like this
Speaker 4: Trump is back, right, And I would talking to people
Speaker 4: before that speech started who were very nervous about the speech,
Speaker 4: people who are involved in election integrity who were very
Speaker 4: scared that this speech was going to be sort of
Speaker 4: the full Trump two point zero or Trump like doing
Speaker 4: a thing that would move everything from there on out right,
Speaker 4: which which he's been able to do. Instead, this speech
Speaker 4: opened up with this weird rambling defense of all his
Speaker 4: domestic stuff that I think landed fairly flat with everybody, right,
Speaker 4: and then the election stuff kind of he said it
Speaker 4: and it kind of went nowhere. Now this is this
Speaker 4: is it? I mean, what more do you need to
Speaker 4: know than he is using and the most powerful thing
Speaker 4: he has, which is his own voice, and at a
Speaker 4: joint stretch in of Congress that he was able to
Speaker 4: create the kind of excitement among his supporters in Congress
Speaker 4: for this thing, and then he kind of just like
Speaker 4: nothing happened, because that's sort of where he's at right now.
Speaker 4: And I think the polls are showing that this is
Speaker 4: not a guy who can go out there and say
Speaker 4: I demand this. You guys should believe me, and they
Speaker 4: do and they used to and they don't right now.
Speaker 4: So that's exactly what I'm saying that Democrats have are
Speaker 4: in a good position with that because every step he
Speaker 4: makes it seems to be the wrong one. I mean,
Speaker 4: we're still talking about the ballroom. We're still talking about
Speaker 4: the new air Force one. We're still talking about I
Speaker 4: mean now Dallas Airport. I mean like, yeah, no, no
Speaker 4: in DC don't like Dallas Airport. Who cares about that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: So get Donald Trump, and this is a really good point.
Speaker 1: Republicans need him to go on and end inflation and
Speaker 1: make this case. You know that he's going to lower
Speaker 1: inflation to get the base excited. But instead Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is laser focused on the reflecting pool in the ballroom.
Speaker 1: And this and the that the Wall Street Journal reporting
Speaker 1: today is really good piece in the Journal headed by
Speaker 1: Josh Daucy and another three reporters talking about how Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has a fundraiser who basically calls up and says,
Speaker 1: do you want to meet with the president. Well, if
Speaker 1: you want to meet with the president, we are going
Speaker 1: to need some money for the library. It's a pretty
Speaker 1: shocking piece all in talk to me about this idea
Speaker 1: that it's like quid pro cool but plus plus plus
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, the corruption and stuff, it's funny. Early
Speaker 4: on in the Trump trumpet.
Speaker 3: We know.
Speaker 4: I also talked to a prominent person involved in you know,
Speaker 4: trying to you know, campaign finance stuff about corruption and
Speaker 4: running on corruption, and they specifically said, you know that
Speaker 4: they've done a bunch of focus groups on this, and
Speaker 4: you couldn't really touch Trump with corruption. You try to
Speaker 4: talk about that, voters and focus groups would say, well, yeah,
Speaker 4: he takes money, but like he's so rich it doesn't matter,
Speaker 4: Like he does whatever he wants anyway. And it was
Speaker 4: other Republicans who wouldn't you know that they would get
Speaker 4: sort of hard with it, like if they were in
Speaker 4: the room with him. People think that those Republicans were
Speaker 4: sort of the ones who are taking the money. But
Speaker 4: we're seeing more and more and more of these stories
Speaker 4: now and it seems like that kind of stuff is
Speaker 4: sort of changing. I mean, look, let's take it all
Speaker 4: the way back to twenty sixteen, right, Donald Trump is
Speaker 4: the reason why the Republican Party regained any credibility in
Speaker 4: the American electorate. The Republican Party was absolute trash in
Speaker 4: the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen time. And Donald Trump is
Speaker 4: the reason why they are back in power, why they
Speaker 4: got the power that they got, and that's the reason
Speaker 4: why they love him, why they rally around him. But
Speaker 4: it also is sort of, you know, all those eggs
Speaker 4: are in one basket, and when it stops working, they
Speaker 4: don't have a backup plan. Like I mean, the Democrats
Speaker 4: are of course in a very active identity crisis right now.
Speaker 4: What are they doing, who's in charge? What are they like?
Speaker 4: What are they not like? But there's a bunch of
Speaker 4: different people having those conversations. You can see in some
Speaker 4: of these places, some of these districts, right, you can see,
Speaker 4: you know, somebody catches fire and builds a constituency, right
Speaker 4: like a mom Donnie emerges. But maybe also some of
Speaker 4: these other people are also you know, but loss off too.
Speaker 4: They're all doing their thing separately because they're kind of
Speaker 4: don't have a leader. The Republicans, they can't really be
Speaker 4: in the same room unless Trump tells them that they're
Speaker 4: supposed to be in there. And when he can no
Speaker 4: longer kind of after the attention that they need. When
Speaker 4: these poll numbers are this bad, you can see they're
Speaker 4: kind of like stumbling around looking to see what to
Speaker 4: do because they don't really have an idea, right, they
Speaker 4: don't really have a plan. Yeah, Mike Johnson said the
Speaker 4: other day, you know, don't worry that God is on
Speaker 4: our side where the midterms or whatever. This thing that
Speaker 4: he said that is like not a message, but that
Speaker 4: is sort of what they have. It really was that
Speaker 4: Donald Trump was going to save us and it's not
Speaker 4: really happening.
Speaker 1: Right, So you have these bad polls, but in a
Speaker 1: normal party, the president would say, well, you need to win,
Speaker 1: so just run against me. You can have some daylight here.
Speaker 1: And we saw some reporting and I don't know how
Speaker 1: accurate this was when Trump went to Michigan, that he
Speaker 1: was giving other Republicans space to have daylight from him, Right,
Speaker 1: he went to a district that where it was a
Speaker 1: little bit less maga and that there was something you
Speaker 1: you saw the reporting. I don't totally buy it.
Speaker 4: Well, look you can just look at like, I mean, look,
Speaker 4: the political people that he has around them are doing stuff.
Speaker 4: You can just see for example, it wasn't that long
Speaker 4: ago that he tweeted or a post on true Social
Speaker 4: whatever you want to say, that sus and Collins should
Speaker 4: not be re elected. She should not be in Congress anymore.
Speaker 4: She's crossed me on this on the big deal. I
Speaker 4: don't like her anymore. She needs to go. And now
Speaker 4: you know this is a guy, you know, he's attacked
Speaker 4: her opponents said the chiefs stick around. And also you
Speaker 4: know with this whole you know, you know, when she
Speaker 4: came calling about Ice, all of a sudden, Ice changed
Speaker 4: its policies. There is politics going on. But the problem is,
Speaker 4: like we've never seen Trump sort of able to actually
Speaker 4: follow through on this. I mean, if you're a publican
Speaker 4: elected official, right you think all the way back to
Speaker 4: any of them, right, like Mike Fence, Kevin McCarthy, all
Speaker 4: the way to like John Cornyan. Right, this is not
Speaker 4: a recipe for advancements in the Republican parties to put
Speaker 4: distance between yourself and Trump. Maybe he's maybe, maybe he's
Speaker 4: laying the groundwork for it, but it's hard to imagine
Speaker 4: kind of thinking this is a good idea, this is
Speaker 4: what I'll do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, how would it even work? I mean,
Speaker 1: Cornyn didn't even mean to put any distance between him.
Speaker 1: They spent millions and millions of dollars Republican donors trying
Speaker 1: to keep Cornyn alive in the race, and then Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was like, I like Packson more. I mean, now
Speaker 1: that the primary is over, imagine like a Republican senator
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, I'm not into it anymore. I mean,
Speaker 1: you need to be able to like be unmaga enough
Speaker 1: to convince voters that you are your own person, but
Speaker 1: maga enough to not lose maga.
Speaker 4: It's all. Yes, it's an angry electorate you're dealing with too.
Speaker 4: I mean you watch I mean you saw Thomas Massey.
Speaker 4: Thomas Massey, you know my colleague Alex, she went to
Speaker 4: that race and of a lot of reporting on it.
Speaker 4: You know that if you watch Thomas Massey's own ads,
Speaker 4: he was like with Trump all time in the ads.
Speaker 4: I love Trump. I vote for him all the time.
Speaker 4: I vote with all this stuff all the time. I'm
Speaker 4: just the guy. Really, like what I am actually is
Speaker 4: like a more pure version of what Trump is doing.
Speaker 4: I'm the real guy. I'm the real thing, is what
Speaker 4: Thomas Massey is saying. And he got crushed. I mean
Speaker 4: it was, it was it was naturally meaningless conversation. And
Speaker 4: this guy had a track record too, right, like the
Speaker 4: Epstein Files thing. People wanted that done, Maga wanted it
Speaker 4: like this is this is the issue is that they
Speaker 4: try the you know Massy you know is his own figure.
Speaker 4: He's got his own weirdness, I guess. But he really
Speaker 4: did run a campaign that was like, no, no, I'm
Speaker 4: not saying that what Trump wants is bad, like I
Speaker 4: am for a lot of this stuff. I have always
Speaker 4: backed him on the things I'm saying, here's where he's
Speaker 4: messed up. Here's where he's gone too far, Here's where
Speaker 4: he's lost us, here's the mistakes, and he's making kind
Speaker 4: of like a sort of hey, I don't love all
Speaker 4: this stuff and including things and people don't like like
Speaker 4: the Iran War. Increasing like APAs.
Speaker 1: Want the Iran War done no matter what.
Speaker 4: Right, and it had no real impact. Now if you
Speaker 4: look at something like Maine again, Susan Collins, who has
Speaker 4: a record of being an independent sort of voice. She
Speaker 4: has a commercial but we had that in the Notice News. Ever,
Speaker 4: the other day she has this commercial. It's very like
Speaker 4: loud and proud, I did not vote for those Medicaid cuts.
Speaker 4: Now anybody tells you that I did, they are lying.
Speaker 4: This is an ad. This is not from a super
Speaker 4: paxted reporting yard. This is an ad from her own campaign.
Speaker 4: That's how seriously she is taking putting distance between herself
Speaker 4: and Trump's policy. She's like bagging people really to understand
Speaker 4: that she did not support this stuff. She has that
Speaker 4: track record. You know, We'll see what happens there. But
Speaker 4: the hard thing is is that like you don't you
Speaker 4: can't really see Trump being like, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 4: I admired her for that vote, you know whatever, right,
Speaker 4: which is what she kind of needs maybe for some
Speaker 4: of these mega people just stick with her. And that's
Speaker 4: that is real challenge, is that, like it's like this
Speaker 4: is a Trump is a singular figure and when that
Speaker 4: turns on you, where are you?
Speaker 1: And I think that's a really good point. And we
Speaker 1: were just talking about Maine before we started recording, because
Speaker 1: I have this theory that Troy Jackson and again early days,
Speaker 1: but it seems like he certainly is Maine. You know,
Speaker 1: he's fifth generation main, he's a lagger, He's like in
Speaker 1: some ways, really what Grand Platiner pretended to be right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I say, this is a NEPO baby myself,
Speaker 1: grand Platiner, the Platiner furniture. You know, a fancy designer,
Speaker 1: the grandson of a fancy designer, the son of a
Speaker 1: banker who had a main country house. It's not quite
Speaker 1: the same as a fifth generation locker.
Speaker 4: Right from a tiny pound of like two hundred and
Speaker 4: seventy people or something like that. Like, yeah, look, I
Speaker 4: mean we talked about that before. Like Democrats have crossed
Speaker 4: the first hurdle here, which is that they have united
Speaker 4: around this guy. Yeah, and that was their problem was
Speaker 4: like how divided were they going to be after this
Speaker 4: Platiner apocalypse? And they had Lokay, so they're united, but
Speaker 4: they all he got.
Speaker 1: Like six hundred and seventy nine delegates of seven hundred
Speaker 1: and ten or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of this very tight process, but like it seems
Speaker 4: like everybody should have got on board. And the DS
Speaker 4: you know, you know, he's met with Schumer now, Bernie
Speaker 4: likes him. He's got like there's like two guys really
Speaker 4: that are like these guys. There's a guy in Pennsylvania,
Speaker 4: Bob Brooks, that fireman. He's the only guy that can
Speaker 4: have like jos Shapiro and Bernie Sanders on the same stage.
Speaker 1: You know, been on this podcast.
Speaker 4: Continue it's a great this is why, this is why,
Speaker 4: so it's a good podcast. And then and then you
Speaker 4: have you know, then I think Troy Jackson is the same,
Speaker 4: right where like Schumer and Bernie could both sort of
Speaker 4: stand next to this guy and it would kind of work.
Speaker 4: So this is all good for them, but they have
Speaker 4: had a lot. But you know, like the whole question
Speaker 4: with that is that like Collins is sort of nobody thinks.
Speaker 1: That of her is tes Kaiser, so she can wait.
Speaker 1: She carry right, and she's guys aer, so she's won
Speaker 1: a lot of times when people had her down.
Speaker 4: But I will say this, the polls the way they
Speaker 4: look right now, right Democrats are freaking out and maybe
Speaker 4: rightly so Michigan next week and they'll be quite interesting.
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens in Wisconsin too. But these are
Speaker 4: the polls that really look like any Democrat will do
Speaker 4: kind of polls like the way they are right now.
Speaker 4: You know, we have a long way to go yet.
Speaker 4: Democratic brand is very bad. There's a lot of things
Speaker 4: to deal with. But when you look at how bad
Speaker 4: Trump's numbers are and that the numbers are really like
Speaker 4: he no longer backs our priority, he doesn't believe in
Speaker 4: us anymore. He doesn't support what we need to be
Speaker 4: him to be doing anymore. You know, he's not doing
Speaker 4: the things that we want him to do anymore. That
Speaker 4: is the angriest people who are going to vote people
Speaker 4: who don't like him, and that is a really good
Speaker 4: sign for anybody who's not a Republican.
Speaker 1: And those enthusiasm numbers the Democrats, and you know we're
Speaker 1: leading by ten fifteen points on enthusiasm, then Republican voters
Speaker 1: are not enthusiastic. I just want to add one last
Speaker 1: thing about the Troy Jackson thing, which I think is
Speaker 1: relevant and important. When we were talking about this before,
Speaker 1: he has said he will not vote for Schumer, but
Speaker 1: he will be supported by the Democratic senatorial campaign. And
Speaker 1: in my mind, that is the difference between Trump and
Speaker 1: the Democrats going into this election, among other things, is
Speaker 1: that you have an atmosphere where Democrats can get money
Speaker 1: from the party but still run as independence or say
Speaker 1: they're not going to vote for Schumer. And do I
Speaker 1: think Troy Jackson will vote for Schumer as leader? Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Do I think Schumer knows that? Yes? Do I think
Speaker 1: that they will? He will still get money Jackson demo
Speaker 1: from Democratic senatorial machine.
Speaker 4: Yes, well we saw she were doing this in Michigan
Speaker 4: before Malliam mcmarrow dropped out. But he was also like,
Speaker 4: he's like, I'm okay with it. You know, she ran
Speaker 4: very strong on not supporting him. Yes, I mean these
Speaker 4: are guys who there are some political sacrifices being made.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, the actual race in Michigan itself is
Speaker 4: Gary Peters was like, I'm too old and don't want
Speaker 4: to do this. We should let some the next generation
Speaker 4: come in, and they're having this like very loud debate
Speaker 4: about what the next generation should be in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4: But that sort of allows for some of this energy
Speaker 4: and enthusiasm to flow in to the election. Yes, this
Speaker 4: is the whole thing is that people who have said
Speaker 4: in opportune moments, you know, like for example, January seventh,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, and hey, that was bad, but that
Speaker 4: what Trump led, that riot at the capitol that almost
Speaker 4: got people kill bad that we did that, and that
Speaker 4: is enough to lose his support forever. So this is
Speaker 4: a very different situation. This is what I'm talking about. Like,
Speaker 4: it doesn't like even if you get a call from
Speaker 4: e chuse you wil saying listen, go for it, trash him,
Speaker 4: We're good with it. Yeah, you got to be thinking
Speaker 4: to yourself, is he going.
Speaker 5: To be good with it?
Speaker 4: Like what you like? What's going to happen to me
Speaker 4: if I do this? Which is a very different political environment.
Speaker 4: He for a long time has caused contranation among Republicans
Speaker 4: because he doesn't seem that interested in building the party
Speaker 4: in party politics. And that's all well and good until
Speaker 4: you hit your midterm election and then all of a
Speaker 4: sudden you find yourself with a Congress that can now
Speaker 4: do oversight against you, and your second term is basically over.
Speaker 4: And I think that, like you know, a lot of
Speaker 4: presidents sort of wake up to that kind of late,
Speaker 4: and it seems like this one's waking up to it,
Speaker 4: you know, very very late.
Speaker 1: Evan, Thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 4: Good to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Andy Kim is the junior senator from the great state
Speaker 1: of New Jersey. Welcome, Welcome, Senator Andy Kim.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1: You come to running for politics, to healthcare and through
Speaker 1: your kids healthcare. I had a kid who had a
Speaker 1: lot of medical problems too, though not as severe as yours,
Speaker 1: but anaphloctive food allergies. Piece now an adult. So that's great,
Speaker 1: But I would love you to talk about sort of
Speaker 1: how your son's medical issues got you to run for office, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, you're absolutely right. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm a son of a polio survivor, so
Speaker 5: my father had polio since he was a baby. My
Speaker 5: you know, younger son unfortunately had some health issues even
Speaker 5: before he was born. There was growth challenges in the womb.
Speaker 5: We were uncertain what was going to happen going forward,
Speaker 5: and I had so much anxiety as a dad. My
Speaker 5: wife was so worried. And meanwhile, at the time, my
Speaker 5: congressman back this back in twenty seventeen, my congressman was
Speaker 5: the one leading the charge on gutting pre existing condition
Speaker 5: protections as part of that effort to unravel the ACA.
Speaker 5: And so that's what prompted me to run for Congress,
Speaker 5: is that I was I was just so angry that
Speaker 5: my own congressman was attacking pre existing condition which my
Speaker 5: father had, my mother has, my little boy, who, for
Speaker 5: no fault of his own. You know had issues, and
Speaker 5: so you know, thankful we were able to get early
Speaker 5: medical care. We learned how to be able to to
Speaker 5: support and like I'm happy to say, like he's at
Speaker 5: like tennis camp right now and all star on his
Speaker 5: soccer team, Like he is such an energetic and athletic boy.
Speaker 1: But like that's so you never stop worrying, right, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt you, because I have a twenty two
Speaker 1: year old and I'm still like, did you bring the
Speaker 1: EPP events?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you never stop worrying. Also, like you never
Speaker 5: know when something's gonna happen, and especially with kids. I mean,
Speaker 5: the things that I learned as I've been going through
Speaker 5: this journey of the last few years of trying to
Speaker 5: think about how do we fix healthcare in this country,
Speaker 5: but particularly for kids, what I really came to understand
Speaker 5: is that healthcare for kids is different. You know, their
Speaker 5: bodies are growing, their brains are developing. We can't just
Speaker 5: think about them as little adults. That's what like a
Speaker 5: lot of experts say, they're not little adults. They cannot
Speaker 5: just have some you know, like some like you know,
Speaker 5: leftover or something derivative part of adult healthcare, right, they're
Speaker 5: not just like add ons to your employer base, like
Speaker 5: they need something specific for them, you know. So that's
Speaker 5: really what I've been undergoing for the last eight years,
Speaker 5: is like thinking through, Yes, okay, I beat my congressman,
Speaker 5: and I we stop them from gutting the Affordable Care
Speaker 5: Act there, but what is you know, what is my
Speaker 5: idea on how to solve how to fix this? Because
Speaker 5: we know healthcare wasn't perfect already. You know, we have
Speaker 5: seen Trump gut Medicaid. You know, they're two up to upwards,
Speaker 5: so close to one point seventy five the two million
Speaker 5: kids fewer on Medicaid right now than at the beginning
Speaker 5: of his administration. So we're moving in the wrong direction.
Speaker 5: But I really spend years trying to think through, well,
Speaker 5: how do we actually fix this? How do we try
Speaker 5: to solve it? Not just how do we get back
Speaker 5: to where things were before Trump, you know, which wasn't
Speaker 5: good to start with, but how do we try to
Speaker 5: fix it? And that's what led me to this idea
Speaker 5: of introducing last week this you know, seminole bill of
Speaker 5: mind called Meda Kids, which is guarantee for health care
Speaker 5: for every child.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about medic kids. It takes a page
Speaker 1: from Obamacare a little bit, right like the age the
Speaker 1: setup talk us through how you got here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the idea is that it would guarantee every kid
Speaker 5: in this country healthcare from birth until twenty six So
Speaker 5: yes on the twenty sixth side rights where Obamacare allowed
Speaker 5: people to stay on their parents' coverage and look in
Speaker 5: part because again we're talking about the period of physical
Speaker 5: and brain development, right, your physical body brain development, like
Speaker 5: well into their twenties, and so I think there's good
Speaker 5: reason for that. But my bill is different though, insofar
Speaker 5: as it covers everyone, every child. So the idea is
Speaker 5: that there's automatic enrollment upon birth of every child in
Speaker 5: this country. So never again will some parents have to
Speaker 5: worry about filling out some for before they're covered. You know,
Speaker 5: if you have a kid in the nick you you
Speaker 5: never you don't have to worry at all about costs
Speaker 5: or coverage.
Speaker 4: It's automatic enrollment.
Speaker 5: Because so much of the problem that we see that
Speaker 5: the Trump administration is weaponizing is using you know, bureaucracy,
Speaker 5: using paperwork, using uh, you know, onerous efforts to have
Speaker 5: to do employer verification and other things like that. They're
Speaker 5: using that to cut people off, you know, like why
Speaker 5: else would they be requiring, you know, kids that have
Speaker 5: permanent disabilities to have to recertify.
Speaker 1: Now it's not like.
Speaker 5: Those disabilities are going Yeah, so like you know that
Speaker 5: that's done to weaponize and to make it harder for
Speaker 5: these families. So yeah, so my mind would do that,
Speaker 5: and it would provide it would automatically enroll into medic kids,
Speaker 5: which I try to envision as sort of this bookend
Speaker 5: to medicare. You know, we have this guaranteed health care
Speaker 5: later in your life, but in many ways we need
Speaker 5: it at the front end of your life because that's
Speaker 5: when it again, you really need to ensure that you
Speaker 5: are not just getting care when you're sick, but like
Speaker 5: you're being screened for any type of problems or illnesses
Speaker 5: or issues that you're able to get early intervention. That
Speaker 5: you have to prioritize preventative care for kids. And so
Speaker 5: that's really the vision, and I'm excited because right now, look,
Speaker 5: we have four point four million kids in this country
Speaker 5: without health insurance, twenty three million that are underinsured, which
Speaker 5: means their healthcare coverage doesn't meet their needs. That's insane
Speaker 5: that over twenty seven million kids are either uninsured or
Speaker 5: underinsured in the richest, most powerful country in the world.
Speaker 5: So I'm excited to have this vision that would bring
Speaker 5: both of those numbers down to zero and that we
Speaker 5: can actually join just the kind of rights that we
Speaker 5: should be having for our kids and saying that every
Speaker 5: single one of you will be insured, regardless of your
Speaker 5: family's circumstances, the decisions that your parents made, or income
Speaker 5: or anything like that, because these are you know, that's
Speaker 5: no fault of their own in terms of the circumstances
Speaker 5: in which they live, so they shouldn't be punished for them.
Speaker 1: But the other thing is that it would ultimately probably
Speaker 1: save a lot of money on the hospital side, right,
Speaker 1: talk us through like pediatric ICUs, pediatric hospitalizations, like there
Speaker 1: is quite a lot of expense. What happens when people
Speaker 1: don't have healthcare is they use emergency rooms as you know,
Speaker 1: treatment centers, and they end up clogging up emergency rooms,
Speaker 1: using those doctors, using those resources, which ultimately puts more
Speaker 1: of a strain and is more expensive. Right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's absolutely right, and we've seen it bear out,
Speaker 5: you know, like for you know, every dollar that we
Speaker 5: see invested into medicaid for kids, which is the foundation
Speaker 5: that I'm using to build you know, medicids. You know,
Speaker 5: we see ultimately our country gaining you know, every dollar
Speaker 5: we put in, like you know, we're getting four dollars
Speaker 5: of savings and productivity because again you're focusing on the
Speaker 5: preventative side. You're screening every kid. Like, the great thing
Speaker 5: about medicaid is that it is actually designed for kids,
Speaker 5: you know, more so than your employer based care or others. Like,
Speaker 5: they have a very rigorous level of screenings based off
Speaker 5: your age of things to look out for. And it's
Speaker 5: not just about physical health. It's also dental, it's vision.
Speaker 5: At a time when over twelve million kids you know
Speaker 5: don't have regular dental coverage and have vision challenges that
Speaker 5: are not being fixed. You know, these are things that
Speaker 5: again traditional healthcare often throws to the side. You know,
Speaker 5: as you're you know, you have to buy all these
Speaker 5: things separately. So you know, this is something that's comprehensive
Speaker 5: and yes, it's something that we know is going to
Speaker 5: help on the preventative side, you know, so that we're
Speaker 5: not waiting until there's some type of problem that manifests
Speaker 5: later on the other thing, Molly is just like like
Speaker 5: healthy kids means healthier adults, right Like, it's not brain
Speaker 5: it's not like rocket science, right Like, it's not brain surgery.
Speaker 5: Like it's gonna be then a healthier workforce and lower
Speaker 5: overall health care costs for our country. We know the
Speaker 5: challenges with chronic disease, with all sorts of issues that
Speaker 5: we know often start when someone is a kid. Then
Speaker 5: you don't have the treatments or you don't have good
Speaker 5: health practices early on, and it causes real problems down
Speaker 5: the road. This would also provide universal mental health coverage,
Speaker 5: which right now, I mean, like I'm hearing from everybody,
Speaker 5: from parents, the teachers, to others saying that there's a
Speaker 5: mental health crisis right now in the country for kids.
Speaker 5: And I see it as a parent of a nine
Speaker 5: year old and a ten year old, and whether that's
Speaker 5: you know, because of just broader anxieties or social media
Speaker 5: and other thing mobile phones and other things, regardless of that,
Speaker 5: Like we need to try to treat this, but right
Speaker 5: now we don't even have school nurses at every single school,
Speaker 5: right like, we have underinvested you know what comes to
Speaker 5: these issues, and they manifest sometimes in exceedingly tragic ways,
Speaker 5: like school shootings or other types of problems. So like again,
Speaker 5: like this is something that can solve this. I am
Speaker 5: trying to put forward a simple vision for this under
Speaker 5: this brand of medic kids that I think people can understand.
Speaker 5: You know, if ever there was a group of people
Speaker 5: in this country that we want to guarantee healthcare for,
Speaker 5: it's our kids. I want it for everybody, and I
Speaker 5: want to keep pushing to get there. But at least
Speaker 5: we can start with the strongest possible argument here and
Speaker 5: be able to support them.
Speaker 1: So voters are mad at Republicans, but they're also mad
Speaker 1: at Democrats. And part of one of the things you're
Speaker 1: doing here is you're showing a sort of broad, really
Speaker 1: I think thoughtful and important piece of legislation. One of
Speaker 1: the things that gets me upset is the lack of
Speaker 1: regulation when it comes to data centers. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know voters are really furious about data centers because that's
Speaker 1: something we broadly see. But you know, technology, we're talking
Speaker 1: about kids, we're talking about social media, Like these are
Speaker 1: things that actually you guys can regulate. What's your take
Speaker 1: on this moment, you know, like if Democrats win back
Speaker 1: the House, which I mean I think We're going to
Speaker 1: go through a lot of stuff before that happens, but
Speaker 1: you know, there will be hopefully a Democratic House, maybe
Speaker 1: even a Democratic Senate. What is this sort of plan
Speaker 1: for after Trump when it comes to regulation and also
Speaker 1: you know, really nailing down government. Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know, I say this as someone who ran in
Speaker 5: the twenty eighteen midterms, right, So I ran during the
Speaker 5: time when Trump is president of Republicans called control Congress
Speaker 5: and we flipped the House. And what it was it's
Speaker 5: important then and the same thing remains now, which is
Speaker 5: that we cannot only be talking about the things that
Speaker 5: we're opposed to. You know, so I told you I'm
Speaker 5: opposed to Trump's cutting of Medicaid and given billionaires giant
Speaker 5: tax cuts, with that money surging up funds for ice.
Speaker 5: But we have to put forward our own vision and
Speaker 5: what it is that we're trying to do. In twenty eighteen,
Speaker 5: we talked about, you know, lower and prescription drug costs,
Speaker 5: about allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, about tangible things
Speaker 5: that put a vision forward for what we stand for.
Speaker 5: It wasn't enough for me to just say I oppose
Speaker 5: their efforts to gut the affordable Care Act. So we
Speaker 5: need this now. This is why I introduced medicids last week,
Speaker 5: is because I want those big ideas out there. I
Speaker 5: want candidates to be talking about medicids. I want them
Speaker 5: to be talking about a guarantee for health care for
Speaker 5: every child, because I think that parents and families all
Speaker 5: across the country understand that, and they also understand the
Speaker 5: affordability problems of healthcare, and this would help save a
Speaker 5: lot of money for a lot of families that are
Speaker 5: wondering how they're going to piece together their family budget.
Speaker 5: So those are the types of things that the party
Speaker 5: needs to push on. I absolutely hope we win gabbles,
Speaker 5: and I think I think we're in a good place
Speaker 5: to do so. But the last thing we want is
Speaker 5: to win the House and or the Senate and then
Speaker 5: the next day be like, okay, well now what do
Speaker 5: we do? Like we need to know first of all, yes,
Speaker 5: we need to know on the oversight side, like what
Speaker 5: investigations are we going to do with the Trump administration?
Speaker 5: Who are we subpoenaing, What is the agenda that we're
Speaker 5: going to do to hold their feet to the fire,
Speaker 5: expose the corruption that we see so blatant in front
Speaker 5: of our eyes that this administration and the Trump family
Speaker 5: are perpetrating against the American people. But we also have
Speaker 5: to think through what's going to be HR one, our
Speaker 5: first bill, what's going to be two, three, four or five?
Speaker 5: You know, those need to be things that we're thinking
Speaker 5: through through now. And that's what I'm feeding this into
Speaker 5: is that with medic kids, this is not only a
Speaker 5: bold idea, but it's doable. It's implementable, Like, we can
Speaker 5: actually do this. This is not some messaging bill. This
Speaker 5: is something that I just I aspire towards if in
Speaker 5: a decade or two, Like it's doable. I designed the
Speaker 5: bill in a way that can be implemented if we
Speaker 5: were in a take back power and that's what we
Speaker 5: need more of, you know, we need to be thinking through. Yes,
Speaker 5: the American people hopefully will will give us the honor
Speaker 5: of leading in Congress, but then what do we do
Speaker 5: with that? And that's going to ultimately then build into
Speaker 5: the fight and the race for the White House. So
Speaker 5: I'm already you know, I've already raised you know, talk
Speaker 5: to presidentially like a potential presidential candidates and others, you
Speaker 5: know about this exact thing, which is we need to
Speaker 5: have our forward agenda and medic kids and and things
Speaker 5: about you know, affordability, things about you know, securing you know,
Speaker 5: our or safety internationally like these are critical that we
Speaker 5: have moving forward.
Speaker 4: And so that's really where the push is.
Speaker 5: And I hope that people across this country demand those
Speaker 5: types of ideas, and I hope candidates are going out
Speaker 5: there and building excitement around this. I've heard some real
Speaker 5: excitement from people about medicids and other ideas here where
Speaker 5: people are like, yeah, that's something I can before and
Speaker 5: that's something I can rally people around.
Speaker 1: When it comes to medicaid party, which is this drug
Speaker 1: price negotiation thing we saw that Mehmet Oz. Doctor Oz
Speaker 1: has said that it basically the ending it right. They're
Speaker 1: not paying out, they're not making it. They're making it
Speaker 1: more expensive to get drugs. Doctor Oz's answer was, it's
Speaker 1: paying all this money to drug companies, which is the point.
Speaker 1: But okay, RFK Junior not into it. This seems like
Speaker 1: it's going to make drugs a lot more expensive. What's
Speaker 1: your understanding of what this is going to do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really worried about that because again, this was
Speaker 5: you know, with part dy of medicare. We knew that
Speaker 5: this was something that was was helping address the needs
Speaker 5: that so many Americans face. Yes, they were improvements that
Speaker 5: needed to be made, which is why we needed to
Speaker 5: make sure that we could allow medicaid to negotiate drug prices,
Speaker 5: something that the Trump administration has has taken their foot
Speaker 5: off the gas and made it harder. And so they
Speaker 5: have no right to complain about this when they have
Speaker 5: been sabotaging every element of this along the way. You know,
Speaker 5: So this is clearly you know, something where they have
Speaker 5: you know, sabotage and then lo and behold, say, oh
Speaker 5: it's not working, so we just got to get rid
Speaker 5: of the whole thing. That's how they're That's what they're
Speaker 5: doing with everything we saw with the dismantling of USAI D.
Speaker 5: We see it with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. They
Speaker 5: sabotage something and then say it's not working, right, and
Speaker 5: so like like the fact that they feel so bold
Speaker 5: to go after medicare, I mean, it just shows you
Speaker 5: just how extreme they are. And what they're doing is
Speaker 5: they're banking on the idea that the American people aren't
Speaker 5: going to be able to focus in on this and
Speaker 5: understand what's going on and how this is going to
Speaker 5: raise costs. So we need to make sure that we're
Speaker 5: focused on this, that we see how the tariffs have
Speaker 5: been raising costs for healthcare, for prescription drugs, for other
Speaker 5: things that we need in our lives. You know, this
Speaker 5: is something where the President has been moving us in
Speaker 5: that direction of high costs. Meanwhile, he himself is profiting
Speaker 5: off of the Oval Office to the tune of billions
Speaker 5: of dollars.
Speaker 4: For him.
Speaker 5: It's family and so that's the contrast that needs to happen.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, the Trump family has made billions
Speaker 5: of dollars since January twentieth, twenty twenty five. How much
Speaker 5: has your family made in the last year and a half.
Speaker 5: And I think we can really see who the government
Speaker 5: right now is working for. It's not us, it's for
Speaker 5: you know, those handful of people that we're up on
Speaker 5: stage with Trump during his inauguration, They're the ones that
Speaker 5: are benefiting from this.
Speaker 1: Andy Kim, how are you going to pay for medicaid
Speaker 1: for medicaids?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, first of all, as we said, you know,
Speaker 5: this is something that's gonna save us a lot of
Speaker 5: money in the long run, but you know, in general,
Speaker 5: when it comes to what comes next for the Democratic platform, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, look when we see what the Trump administration
Speaker 5: has rolled back, these tax cuts for the billionaires, that
Speaker 5: is what they gutted medicaid for you know, So yes,
Speaker 5: we're going to have to make sure that we're dismantling
Speaker 5: what the Trump administration did with their reconciliation bill, that
Speaker 5: big ugly bill and other things like that. So you know,
Speaker 5: what we need to do right now is put together
Speaker 5: our platform of what it is that we're for and
Speaker 5: be able to do the work, to be able to
Speaker 5: make sure that we are doing this responsibly and coming
Speaker 5: up with the ideas like you know, going against those
Speaker 5: tax cuts for the billionaires, uh and making sure they're
Speaker 5: paying their fair share. You know, those are the types
Speaker 5: of things that we need to be pushing on and
Speaker 5: that's how we'll be able to do this.
Speaker 1: So what is those billionaire taxes again? And you think
Speaker 1: you can pay for him?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean look yeah, I mean like we saw
Speaker 5: like absolute like loopholes for you know, for the billionaires.
Speaker 5: We see, you know, how they've done everything that they
Speaker 5: can to be able to you know, to to create
Speaker 5: other loopholes, or to slash the corporate tax freate and
Speaker 5: other types of things that they've been pushing on. Meanwhile,
Speaker 5: they're trying to you know, create a you know, one
Speaker 5: point five trillion dollar defense budget, pull money from what
Speaker 5: we do on the domestic side for our families into
Speaker 5: this bottomless pit of war with Iran. Like, those are
Speaker 5: the things that we're going to have to make sure
Speaker 5: that we are closing up and be able to redirect
Speaker 5: the funds to where the American people want them, which
Speaker 5: is to be able to help our families with the
Speaker 5: costs of daily living. You know, a lot of the
Speaker 5: Americans I talked to, they're not ad asking for the moon.
Speaker 5: They're just asking him to be able to have some support,
Speaker 5: to be able to afford the housing, to afford food,
Speaker 5: to be able to afford you know, some medical care.
Speaker 5: You know, they're like, that is not too much to
Speaker 5: ask for.
Speaker 1: Andy Kim, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks so much.
Speaker 1: No no moment, Jesse Cannon, my drunk fast.
Speaker 2: You know, it's all happening thanks to Tiss James. I
Speaker 2: think that you and I just sit and baffle our
Speaker 2: minds about Calshie and Poally market. Well, Tiss James is
Speaker 2: coming for Calshie.
Speaker 1: You know who's not a Calshi partner us.
Speaker 3: That is, I know we've both got the DM slide,
Speaker 3: right right.
Speaker 1: We both got DM slides. We are not ever going
Speaker 1: to be Calshi partners. You know why because I have
Speaker 1: an eighteen year old son, and I know that they
Speaker 1: have targeted these kids and they're trying to make them
Speaker 1: all gambling addicts, and it is so dangerous and like, honestly,
Speaker 1: you and I are both the same age, and we
Speaker 1: grew up in a time when gambling was legal only
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, New Jersey, parts of New Jersey, Atlantic City.
Speaker 3: I as gonna say, yeah, like a few a few
Speaker 3: select weird.
Speaker 1: Districts of Native American reservations, and that was it. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, it was not the way it
Speaker 1: is now. And like there's a reason for that. It's
Speaker 1: highly It's like why we don't, you know, serve cocaine
Speaker 1: in bars because it's very addictive stuff.
Speaker 3: Technically we were growing up there was that bar.
Speaker 1: And anyway, the point is, the point is the reason
Speaker 1: they don't serve cocaine in bars is the same reason
Speaker 1: that we should not have Calshie on the internet which
Speaker 1: is is very addictive and like our government may not
Speaker 1: regulate anything, but they should regulate cigarettes and yimbling and
Speaker 1: drugs and also pollution. That's it for this episode of
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