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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds. And President Trump is polling at thirty

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Speaker 1: two percent approval rating. We have such a great show

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Speaker 1: for you today. Notices Evan mic Moros Santorro stops by

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Speaker 1: to talk about Trump's new low in his approval rating.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll talk to New Jersey Senator Andy Kim about

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Speaker 1: his medikids proposal. But first the news.

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Speaker 2: So Mally dald Trump has one fixation that is not decorating.

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Speaker 2: Every time I see the Oval Office, there's some new

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Speaker 2: gold bullshit up. But when he's not thinking of that,

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Speaker 2: he's thinking of the Save Act. Even though Republicans are saying, please,

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Speaker 2: please stop. Trump has never been very into consent.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to pass the Save Act. You don't.

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Speaker 1: You have all of these senators who do not want

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Speaker 1: to knew the filibuster. You have the Yolo Caucus, Cornyn

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a junior Senator. There's no world in

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Speaker 1: which Republicans break the filibuster to pass the Save Act

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Speaker 1: by the August Research Recess, and Carolyn Lovett can say

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Speaker 1: whatever she wants, it's not going to happen. First of all,

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Speaker 1: even if they pass the Save Act, they wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: able to get it going because, first of all, federalizing

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Speaker 1: because there's no world in which they could federalize elections

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Speaker 1: in time between the primaries and the actual midterms. This

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Speaker 1: is just like Donald Trump freaking out trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out what he can do. And look. The other thing

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Speaker 1: is the fact that Todd Blanche. You know, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: It was supposed to go to a vote yesterday. They

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Speaker 1: to vote for it. Untill us too. So you have

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump tweeting about John Cornyan. You cannot be tweeting

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Speaker 1: about John Cornan and also asking John Cornan to kill

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Speaker 1: the filibuster. It's just not how any of this works.

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Speaker 1: So my gas is that none of this is going

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Speaker 1: and what they come back, it'll be September.

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Speaker 2: Could you clarify for me. So you're saying you think

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Speaker 2: Todd Blanch is never going to get confirmed.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I think Todd Blanche is going to be acting. And

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Speaker 1: in fact, what's so stupid about this is Trump is like, well,

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Speaker 1: So Cornan is from Texas, So maybe Trump gets Paxton. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the polling is right today, he gets

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Speaker 1: tell Rico, who is not voting to confirm Todd Blanche.

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Speaker 1: And then that other seat, Tilla's seat. The Democrat is

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Speaker 1: And there's a world in which those two senators are

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Speaker 1: the Todd Blanche confirmation fight. These two Republicans want Todd

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Speaker 1: Blanche to say that Donald Trump cannot have IRS immunity

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Speaker 1: probably because Donald Trump doesn't want him to. And this

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Speaker 1: is proof. I think that Donald Trump still thinks he

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Speaker 1: it's important to remember like Cornin and Tillis are not

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Speaker 1: operating in vacuum. They see that Donald Trump is polling

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Speaker 1: and pass some legislation which is like a very very

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Somali, I am sure you've heard, since you're often

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Speaker 2: on Morning Joe, that socialism was on the rise and

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Speaker 2: president is seizing the beads of production. How are you feeling, comrade, You.

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Speaker 1: Stole my chick. So here's what's happening. Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: seizing the means of production. The Commerce Department headed by

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Speaker 1: Howard Lutnik, who, as you may know, percent growth in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, you know, we have not that we

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Speaker 1: What why? Because these people do not really believe in capitalism.

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Speaker 1: And any time that Fox News insists that a Democrat

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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump and all of the people who are

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Speaker 1: doing sketchy things with their beloved corporations, because none of

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Speaker 1: this is how capitalism is supposed to work.

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Speaker 3: On the socialist president, and I got Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Damn, that's right, baby. He's an atheist and he's a socialist,

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Speaker 1: but not like you want.

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Speaker 2: So I think that there's an interesting thing that you

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Speaker 2: I think Republicans got to this place first very obviously,

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Speaker 2: that two and three bags of voters say they'd support

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Speaker 1: So I read this totally differently. This is what happens

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Speaker 1: when you have a party that no longer believes women.

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Speaker 1: I hope that this is a partisan thing. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: remember when Platner was accused of sexual assault or rape

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Speaker 1: they will support Trump and trump Ism and assault. You know,

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Speaker 1: he has said nothing as Max Miller runs for re election. Now,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean, I hope this is just limited

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Speaker 3: I think you're right about that.

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Speaker 2: I think that though one of the symptoms of this

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Speaker 4: I hope not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that it's just that Trump made

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Speaker 1: back to being normal, or head to being more normal

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Speaker 1: or something. Evan McMorris Santoro is a reporter at Notice. Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Evan.

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Speaker 4: I'm Molly, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good because you know, I as it polls. I'm

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Speaker 1: good because I'm looking at these disapproval So Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: It's a pretty bad I mean, I mean, I mean

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Speaker 4: you've seen I guess like sure, like George W. Bush

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Speaker 4: because you know, their entire electoral project in twenty six

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Speaker 4: They have like very specifically not done that. And I remember,

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Speaker 4: these numbers are very, very bad, and the Republican nominees

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Speaker 4: and you're not seeing the president's team put out their

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Speaker 1: So the polling is very connected to gas prices, though,

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Speaker 1: connected a lot of this is on the economy. Certainly

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Speaker 1: people don't like ice killing American citizens. They don't. But

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Speaker 1: but most of this is the ability of the of

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Speaker 1: So get Donald Trump, and this is a really good point.

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Speaker 1: being like, yeah, I'm not into it anymore. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you need to be able to like be unmaga enough

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Speaker 1: to convince voters that you are your own person, but

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Speaker 1: maga enough to not lose maga.

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Speaker 4: It's all. Yes, it's an angry electorate you're dealing with too.

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Speaker 4: I mean you watch I mean you saw Thomas Massey.

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Speaker 4: Thomas Massey, you know my colleague Alex, she went to

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Speaker 4: that race and of a lot of reporting on it.

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Speaker 4: You know that if you watch Thomas Massey's own ads,

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Speaker 4: he was like with Trump all time in the ads.

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Speaker 4: I love Trump. I vote for him all the time.

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Speaker 4: I vote with all this stuff all the time. I'm

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Speaker 4: just the guy. Really, like what I am actually is

447
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Speaker 4: like a more pure version of what Trump is doing.

448
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Speaker 4: I'm the real guy. I'm the real thing, is what

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Speaker 4: Thomas Massey is saying. And he got crushed. I mean

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Speaker 4: it was, it was it was naturally meaningless conversation. And

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Speaker 4: this guy had a track record too, right, like the

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Speaker 4: Epstein Files thing. People wanted that done, Maga wanted it

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Speaker 4: like this is this is the issue is that they

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Speaker 4: try the you know Massy you know is his own figure.

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Speaker 4: He's got his own weirdness, I guess. But he really

456
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Speaker 4: did run a campaign that was like, no, no, I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying that what Trump wants is bad, like I

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Speaker 4: am for a lot of this stuff. I have always

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Speaker 4: backed him on the things I'm saying, here's where he's

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Speaker 4: messed up. Here's where he's gone too far, Here's where

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Speaker 4: he's lost us, here's the mistakes, and he's making kind

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Speaker 4: of like a sort of hey, I don't love all

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Speaker 4: this stuff and including things and people don't like like

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Speaker 4: the Iran War. Increasing like APAs.

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Speaker 1: Want the Iran War done no matter what.

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Speaker 4: Right, and it had no real impact. Now if you

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Speaker 4: look at something like Maine again, Susan Collins, who has

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Speaker 4: a record of being an independent sort of voice. She

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Speaker 4: has a commercial but we had that in the Notice News. Ever,

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Speaker 4: the other day she has this commercial. It's very like

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Speaker 4: loud and proud, I did not vote for those Medicaid cuts.

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Speaker 4: Now anybody tells you that I did, they are lying.

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Speaker 4: This is an ad. This is not from a super

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Speaker 4: paxted reporting yard. This is an ad from her own campaign.

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Speaker 4: That's how seriously she is taking putting distance between herself

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Speaker 4: and Trump's policy. She's like bagging people really to understand

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Speaker 4: that she did not support this stuff. She has that

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Speaker 4: track record. You know, We'll see what happens there. But

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Speaker 4: the hard thing is is that like you don't you

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Speaker 4: can't really see Trump being like, yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 4: I admired her for that vote, you know whatever, right,

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Speaker 4: which is what she kind of needs maybe for some

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Speaker 4: of these mega people just stick with her. And that's

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Speaker 4: that is real challenge, is that, like it's like this

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Speaker 4: is a Trump is a singular figure and when that

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Speaker 4: turns on you, where are you?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a really good point. And we

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Speaker 1: were just talking about Maine before we started recording, because

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Speaker 1: I have this theory that Troy Jackson and again early days,

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Speaker 1: but it seems like he certainly is Maine. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's fifth generation main, he's a lagger, He's like in

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Speaker 1: some ways, really what Grand Platiner pretended to be right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I say, this is a NEPO baby myself,

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Speaker 1: grand Platiner, the Platiner furniture. You know, a fancy designer,

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Speaker 1: the grandson of a fancy designer, the son of a

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Speaker 1: banker who had a main country house. It's not quite

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Speaker 1: the same as a fifth generation locker.

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Speaker 4: Right from a tiny pound of like two hundred and

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Speaker 4: seventy people or something like that. Like, yeah, look, I

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Speaker 4: mean we talked about that before. Like Democrats have crossed

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Speaker 4: the first hurdle here, which is that they have united

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Speaker 4: around this guy. Yeah, and that was their problem was

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Speaker 4: like how divided were they going to be after this

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Speaker 4: Platiner apocalypse? And they had Lokay, so they're united, but

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Speaker 4: they all he got.

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Speaker 1: Like six hundred and seventy nine delegates of seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and ten or something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of this very tight process, but like it seems

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Speaker 4: like everybody should have got on board. And the DS

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Speaker 4: you know, you know, he's met with Schumer now, Bernie

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Speaker 4: likes him. He's got like there's like two guys really

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Speaker 4: that are like these guys. There's a guy in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 4: Bob Brooks, that fireman. He's the only guy that can

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Speaker 4: have like jos Shapiro and Bernie Sanders on the same stage.

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Speaker 1: You know, been on this podcast.

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Speaker 4: Continue it's a great this is why, this is why,

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Speaker 4: so it's a good podcast. And then and then you

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Speaker 4: have you know, then I think Troy Jackson is the same,

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Speaker 4: right where like Schumer and Bernie could both sort of

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Speaker 4: stand next to this guy and it would kind of work.

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Speaker 4: So this is all good for them, but they have

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Speaker 4: had a lot. But you know, like the whole question

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Speaker 4: with that is that like Collins is sort of nobody thinks.

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Speaker 1: That of her is tes Kaiser, so she can wait.

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Speaker 1: She carry right, and she's guys aer, so she's won

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Speaker 1: a lot of times when people had her down.

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Speaker 4: But I will say this, the polls the way they

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Speaker 4: look right now, right Democrats are freaking out and maybe

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Speaker 4: rightly so Michigan next week and they'll be quite interesting.

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Speaker 4: We'll see what happens in Wisconsin too. But these are

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Speaker 4: the polls that really look like any Democrat will do

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Speaker 4: kind of polls like the way they are right now.

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Speaker 4: You know, we have a long way to go yet.

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Speaker 4: Democratic brand is very bad. There's a lot of things

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Speaker 4: to deal with. But when you look at how bad

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Speaker 4: Trump's numbers are and that the numbers are really like

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Speaker 4: he no longer backs our priority, he doesn't believe in

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Speaker 4: us anymore. He doesn't support what we need to be

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Speaker 4: him to be doing anymore. You know, he's not doing

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Speaker 4: the things that we want him to do anymore. That

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Speaker 4: is the angriest people who are going to vote people

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Speaker 4: who don't like him, and that is a really good

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Speaker 4: sign for anybody who's not a Republican.

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Speaker 1: And those enthusiasm numbers the Democrats, and you know we're

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Speaker 1: leading by ten fifteen points on enthusiasm, then Republican voters

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Speaker 1: are not enthusiastic. I just want to add one last

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Speaker 1: thing about the Troy Jackson thing, which I think is

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Speaker 1: relevant and important. When we were talking about this before,

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Speaker 1: he has said he will not vote for Schumer, but

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Speaker 1: he will be supported by the Democratic senatorial campaign. And

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Speaker 1: in my mind, that is the difference between Trump and

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Speaker 1: the Democrats going into this election, among other things, is

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Speaker 1: that you have an atmosphere where Democrats can get money

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Speaker 1: from the party but still run as independence or say

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Speaker 1: they're not going to vote for Schumer. And do I

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Speaker 1: think Troy Jackson will vote for Schumer as leader? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Do I think Schumer knows that? Yes? Do I think

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Speaker 1: that they will? He will still get money Jackson demo

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Speaker 1: from Democratic senatorial machine.

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Speaker 4: Yes, well we saw she were doing this in Michigan

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Speaker 4: before Malliam mcmarrow dropped out. But he was also like,

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Speaker 4: he's like, I'm okay with it. You know, she ran

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Speaker 4: very strong on not supporting him. Yes, I mean these

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Speaker 4: are guys who there are some political sacrifices being made.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, the actual race in Michigan itself is

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Speaker 4: Gary Peters was like, I'm too old and don't want

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Speaker 4: to do this. We should let some the next generation

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Speaker 4: come in, and they're having this like very loud debate

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Speaker 4: about what the next generation should be in the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 4: But that sort of allows for some of this energy

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Speaker 4: and enthusiasm to flow in to the election. Yes, this

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Speaker 4: is the whole thing is that people who have said

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Speaker 4: in opportune moments, you know, like for example, January seventh,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty one, and hey, that was bad, but that

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Speaker 4: what Trump led, that riot at the capitol that almost

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Speaker 4: got people kill bad that we did that, and that

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Speaker 4: is enough to lose his support forever. So this is

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Speaker 4: a very different situation. This is what I'm talking about. Like,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't like even if you get a call from

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Speaker 4: e chuse you wil saying listen, go for it, trash him,

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Speaker 4: We're good with it. Yeah, you got to be thinking

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Speaker 4: to yourself, is he going.

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Speaker 5: To be good with it?

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Speaker 4: Like what you like? What's going to happen to me

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Speaker 4: if I do this? Which is a very different political environment.

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Speaker 4: He for a long time has caused contranation among Republicans

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Speaker 4: because he doesn't seem that interested in building the party

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Speaker 4: in party politics. And that's all well and good until

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Speaker 4: you hit your midterm election and then all of a

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Speaker 4: sudden you find yourself with a Congress that can now

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Speaker 4: do oversight against you, and your second term is basically over.

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Speaker 4: And I think that, like you know, a lot of

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Speaker 4: presidents sort of wake up to that kind of late,

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Speaker 4: and it seems like this one's waking up to it,

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Speaker 4: you know, very very late.

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Speaker 1: Evan, Thank you, You're welcome.

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Speaker 4: Good to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Andy Kim is the junior senator from the great state

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Speaker 1: of New Jersey. Welcome, Welcome, Senator Andy Kim.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: You come to running for politics, to healthcare and through

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Speaker 1: your kids healthcare. I had a kid who had a

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Speaker 1: lot of medical problems too, though not as severe as yours,

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Speaker 1: but anaphloctive food allergies. Piece now an adult. So that's great,

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Speaker 1: But I would love you to talk about sort of

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Speaker 1: how your son's medical issues got you to run for office, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, you're absolutely right. I mean, first of all,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm a son of a polio survivor, so

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Speaker 5: my father had polio since he was a baby. My

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Speaker 5: you know, younger son unfortunately had some health issues even

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Speaker 5: before he was born. There was growth challenges in the womb.

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Speaker 5: We were uncertain what was going to happen going forward,

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Speaker 5: and I had so much anxiety as a dad. My

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Speaker 5: wife was so worried. And meanwhile, at the time, my

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Speaker 5: congressman back this back in twenty seventeen, my congressman was

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Speaker 5: the one leading the charge on gutting pre existing condition

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Speaker 5: protections as part of that effort to unravel the ACA.

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Speaker 5: And so that's what prompted me to run for Congress,

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Speaker 5: is that I was I was just so angry that

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Speaker 5: my own congressman was attacking pre existing condition which my

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Speaker 5: father had, my mother has, my little boy, who, for

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Speaker 5: no fault of his own. You know had issues, and

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Speaker 5: so you know, thankful we were able to get early

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Speaker 5: medical care. We learned how to be able to to

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Speaker 5: support and like I'm happy to say, like he's at

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Speaker 5: like tennis camp right now and all star on his

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Speaker 5: soccer team, Like he is such an energetic and athletic boy.

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Speaker 1: But like that's so you never stop worrying, right, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt you, because I have a twenty two

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Speaker 1: year old and I'm still like, did you bring the

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Speaker 1: EPP events?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, you never stop worrying. Also, like you never

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Speaker 5: know when something's gonna happen, and especially with kids. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the things that I learned as I've been going through

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Speaker 5: this journey of the last few years of trying to

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Speaker 5: think about how do we fix healthcare in this country,

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Speaker 5: but particularly for kids, what I really came to understand

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Speaker 5: is that healthcare for kids is different. You know, their

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Speaker 5: bodies are growing, their brains are developing. We can't just

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Speaker 5: think about them as little adults. That's what like a

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Speaker 5: lot of experts say, they're not little adults. They cannot

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Speaker 5: just have some you know, like some like you know,

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Speaker 5: leftover or something derivative part of adult healthcare, right, they're

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Speaker 5: not just like add ons to your employer base, like

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Speaker 5: they need something specific for them, you know. So that's

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Speaker 5: really what I've been undergoing for the last eight years,

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Speaker 5: is like thinking through, Yes, okay, I beat my congressman,

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Speaker 5: and I we stop them from gutting the Affordable Care

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Speaker 5: Act there, but what is you know, what is my

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Speaker 5: idea on how to solve how to fix this? Because

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Speaker 5: we know healthcare wasn't perfect already. You know, we have

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Speaker 5: seen Trump gut Medicaid. You know, they're two up to upwards,

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Speaker 5: so close to one point seventy five the two million

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Speaker 5: kids fewer on Medicaid right now than at the beginning

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Speaker 5: of his administration. So we're moving in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 5: But I really spend years trying to think through, well,

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Speaker 5: how do we actually fix this? How do we try

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Speaker 5: to solve it? Not just how do we get back

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Speaker 5: to where things were before Trump, you know, which wasn't

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Speaker 5: good to start with, but how do we try to

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Speaker 5: fix it? And that's what led me to this idea

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Speaker 5: of introducing last week this you know, seminole bill of

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Speaker 5: mind called Meda Kids, which is guarantee for health care

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Speaker 5: for every child.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about medic kids. It takes a page

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Speaker 1: from Obamacare a little bit, right like the age the

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Speaker 1: setup talk us through how you got here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the idea is that it would guarantee every kid

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Speaker 5: in this country healthcare from birth until twenty six So

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Speaker 5: yes on the twenty sixth side rights where Obamacare allowed

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Speaker 5: people to stay on their parents' coverage and look in

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Speaker 5: part because again we're talking about the period of physical

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Speaker 5: and brain development, right, your physical body brain development, like

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Speaker 5: well into their twenties, and so I think there's good

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Speaker 5: reason for that. But my bill is different though, insofar

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Speaker 5: as it covers everyone, every child. So the idea is

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Speaker 5: that there's automatic enrollment upon birth of every child in

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Speaker 5: this country. So never again will some parents have to

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Speaker 5: worry about filling out some for before they're covered. You know,

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Speaker 5: if you have a kid in the nick you you

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Speaker 5: never you don't have to worry at all about costs

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Speaker 5: or coverage.

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Speaker 4: It's automatic enrollment.

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Speaker 5: Because so much of the problem that we see that

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Speaker 5: the Trump administration is weaponizing is using you know, bureaucracy,

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Speaker 5: using paperwork, using uh, you know, onerous efforts to have

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Speaker 5: to do employer verification and other things like that. They're

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Speaker 5: using that to cut people off, you know, like why

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Speaker 5: else would they be requiring, you know, kids that have

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Speaker 5: permanent disabilities to have to recertify.

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Speaker 1: Now it's not like.

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Speaker 5: Those disabilities are going Yeah, so like you know that

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Speaker 5: that's done to weaponize and to make it harder for

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Speaker 5: these families. So yeah, so my mind would do that,

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Speaker 5: and it would provide it would automatically enroll into medic kids,

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Speaker 5: which I try to envision as sort of this bookend

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Speaker 5: to medicare. You know, we have this guaranteed health care

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Speaker 5: later in your life, but in many ways we need

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Speaker 5: it at the front end of your life because that's

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Speaker 5: when it again, you really need to ensure that you

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Speaker 5: are not just getting care when you're sick, but like

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Speaker 5: you're being screened for any type of problems or illnesses

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Speaker 5: or issues that you're able to get early intervention. That

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Speaker 5: you have to prioritize preventative care for kids. And so

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Speaker 5: that's really the vision, and I'm excited because right now, look,

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Speaker 5: we have four point four million kids in this country

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Speaker 5: without health insurance, twenty three million that are underinsured, which

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Speaker 5: means their healthcare coverage doesn't meet their needs. That's insane

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Speaker 5: that over twenty seven million kids are either uninsured or

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Speaker 5: underinsured in the richest, most powerful country in the world.

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited to have this vision that would bring

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Speaker 5: both of those numbers down to zero and that we

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Speaker 5: can actually join just the kind of rights that we

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Speaker 5: should be having for our kids and saying that every

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Speaker 5: single one of you will be insured, regardless of your

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Speaker 5: family's circumstances, the decisions that your parents made, or income

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Speaker 5: or anything like that, because these are you know, that's

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Speaker 5: no fault of their own in terms of the circumstances

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Speaker 5: in which they live, so they shouldn't be punished for them.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing is that it would ultimately probably

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Speaker 1: save a lot of money on the hospital side, right,

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Speaker 1: talk us through like pediatric ICUs, pediatric hospitalizations, like there

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Speaker 1: is quite a lot of expense. What happens when people

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Speaker 1: don't have healthcare is they use emergency rooms as you know,

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Speaker 1: treatment centers, and they end up clogging up emergency rooms,

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Speaker 1: using those doctors, using those resources, which ultimately puts more

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Speaker 1: of a strain and is more expensive. Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's absolutely right, and we've seen it bear out,

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Speaker 5: you know, like for you know, every dollar that we

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Speaker 5: see invested into medicaid for kids, which is the foundation

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Speaker 5: that I'm using to build you know, medicids. You know,

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Speaker 5: we see ultimately our country gaining you know, every dollar

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Speaker 5: we put in, like you know, we're getting four dollars

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Speaker 5: of savings and productivity because again you're focusing on the

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Speaker 5: preventative side. You're screening every kid. Like, the great thing

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Speaker 5: about medicaid is that it is actually designed for kids,

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Speaker 5: you know, more so than your employer based care or others. Like,

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Speaker 5: they have a very rigorous level of screenings based off

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Speaker 5: your age of things to look out for. And it's

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Speaker 5: not just about physical health. It's also dental, it's vision.

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Speaker 5: At a time when over twelve million kids you know

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Speaker 5: don't have regular dental coverage and have vision challenges that

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Speaker 5: are not being fixed. You know, these are things that

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Speaker 5: again traditional healthcare often throws to the side. You know,

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Speaker 5: as you're you know, you have to buy all these

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Speaker 5: things separately. So you know, this is something that's comprehensive

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Speaker 5: and yes, it's something that we know is going to

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Speaker 5: help on the preventative side, you know, so that we're

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Speaker 5: not waiting until there's some type of problem that manifests

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Speaker 5: later on the other thing, Molly is just like like

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Speaker 5: healthy kids means healthier adults, right Like, it's not brain

753
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Speaker 5: it's not like rocket science, right Like, it's not brain surgery.

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Speaker 5: Like it's gonna be then a healthier workforce and lower

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Speaker 5: overall health care costs for our country. We know the

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Speaker 5: challenges with chronic disease, with all sorts of issues that

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Speaker 5: we know often start when someone is a kid. Then

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Speaker 5: you don't have the treatments or you don't have good

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Speaker 5: health practices early on, and it causes real problems down

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Speaker 5: the road. This would also provide universal mental health coverage,

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Speaker 5: which right now, I mean, like I'm hearing from everybody,

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Speaker 5: from parents, the teachers, to others saying that there's a

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Speaker 5: mental health crisis right now in the country for kids.

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Speaker 5: And I see it as a parent of a nine

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Speaker 5: year old and a ten year old, and whether that's

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Speaker 5: you know, because of just broader anxieties or social media

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Speaker 5: and other thing mobile phones and other things, regardless of that,

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Speaker 5: Like we need to try to treat this, but right

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Speaker 5: now we don't even have school nurses at every single school,

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Speaker 5: right like, we have underinvested you know what comes to

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Speaker 5: these issues, and they manifest sometimes in exceedingly tragic ways,

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Speaker 5: like school shootings or other types of problems. So like again,

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Speaker 5: like this is something that can solve this. I am

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Speaker 5: trying to put forward a simple vision for this under

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Speaker 5: this brand of medic kids that I think people can understand.

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Speaker 5: You know, if ever there was a group of people

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Speaker 5: in this country that we want to guarantee healthcare for,

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Speaker 5: it's our kids. I want it for everybody, and I

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Speaker 5: want to keep pushing to get there. But at least

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Speaker 5: we can start with the strongest possible argument here and

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Speaker 5: be able to support them.

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Speaker 1: So voters are mad at Republicans, but they're also mad

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Speaker 1: at Democrats. And part of one of the things you're

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Speaker 1: doing here is you're showing a sort of broad, really

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Speaker 1: I think thoughtful and important piece of legislation. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that gets me upset is the lack of

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Speaker 1: regulation when it comes to data centers. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: know voters are really furious about data centers because that's

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Speaker 1: something we broadly see. But you know, technology, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about kids, we're talking about social media, Like these are

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Speaker 1: things that actually you guys can regulate. What's your take

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Speaker 1: on this moment, you know, like if Democrats win back

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Speaker 1: the House, which I mean I think We're going to

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Speaker 1: go through a lot of stuff before that happens, but

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Speaker 1: you know, there will be hopefully a Democratic House, maybe

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Speaker 1: even a Democratic Senate. What is this sort of plan

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Speaker 1: for after Trump when it comes to regulation and also

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Speaker 1: you know, really nailing down government. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know, I say this as someone who ran in

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Speaker 5: the twenty eighteen midterms, right, So I ran during the

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Speaker 5: time when Trump is president of Republicans called control Congress

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Speaker 5: and we flipped the House. And what it was it's

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Speaker 5: important then and the same thing remains now, which is

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Speaker 5: that we cannot only be talking about the things that

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Speaker 5: we're opposed to. You know, so I told you I'm

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Speaker 5: opposed to Trump's cutting of Medicaid and given billionaires giant

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Speaker 5: tax cuts, with that money surging up funds for ice.

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Speaker 5: But we have to put forward our own vision and

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Speaker 5: what it is that we're trying to do. In twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 5: we talked about, you know, lower and prescription drug costs,

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Speaker 5: about allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices, about tangible things

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Speaker 5: that put a vision forward for what we stand for.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't enough for me to just say I oppose

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Speaker 5: their efforts to gut the affordable Care Act. So we

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Speaker 5: need this now. This is why I introduced medicids last week,

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Speaker 5: is because I want those big ideas out there. I

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Speaker 5: want candidates to be talking about medicids. I want them

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Speaker 5: to be talking about a guarantee for health care for

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Speaker 5: every child, because I think that parents and families all

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Speaker 5: across the country understand that, and they also understand the

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Speaker 5: affordability problems of healthcare, and this would help save a

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Speaker 5: lot of money for a lot of families that are

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Speaker 5: wondering how they're going to piece together their family budget.

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Speaker 5: So those are the types of things that the party

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Speaker 5: needs to push on. I absolutely hope we win gabbles,

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Speaker 5: and I think I think we're in a good place

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Speaker 5: to do so. But the last thing we want is

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Speaker 5: to win the House and or the Senate and then

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Speaker 5: the next day be like, okay, well now what do

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Speaker 5: we do? Like we need to know first of all, yes,

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Speaker 5: we need to know on the oversight side, like what

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Speaker 5: investigations are we going to do with the Trump administration?

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Speaker 5: Who are we subpoenaing, What is the agenda that we're

834
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Speaker 5: going to do to hold their feet to the fire,

835
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Speaker 5: expose the corruption that we see so blatant in front

836
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Speaker 5: of our eyes that this administration and the Trump family

837
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Speaker 5: are perpetrating against the American people. But we also have

838
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Speaker 5: to think through what's going to be HR one, our

839
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Speaker 5: first bill, what's going to be two, three, four or five?

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Speaker 5: You know, those need to be things that we're thinking

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Speaker 5: through through now. And that's what I'm feeding this into

842
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Speaker 5: is that with medic kids, this is not only a

843
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Speaker 5: bold idea, but it's doable. It's implementable, Like, we can

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Speaker 5: actually do this. This is not some messaging bill. This

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Speaker 5: is something that I just I aspire towards if in

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Speaker 5: a decade or two, Like it's doable. I designed the

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Speaker 5: bill in a way that can be implemented if we

848
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Speaker 5: were in a take back power and that's what we

849
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 5: need more of, you know, we need to be thinking through. Yes,

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Speaker 5: the American people hopefully will will give us the honor

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Speaker 5: of leading in Congress, but then what do we do

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Speaker 5: with that? And that's going to ultimately then build into

853
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Speaker 5: the fight and the race for the White House. So

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Speaker 5: I'm already you know, I've already raised you know, talk

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Speaker 5: to presidentially like a potential presidential candidates and others, you

856
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 5: know about this exact thing, which is we need to

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Speaker 5: have our forward agenda and medic kids and and things

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Speaker 5: about you know, affordability, things about you know, securing you know,

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00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 5: our or safety internationally like these are critical that we

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Speaker 5: have moving forward.

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Speaker 4: And so that's really where the push is.

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Speaker 5: And I hope that people across this country demand those

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Speaker 5: types of ideas, and I hope candidates are going out

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Speaker 5: there and building excitement around this. I've heard some real

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Speaker 5: excitement from people about medicids and other ideas here where

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Speaker 5: people are like, yeah, that's something I can before and

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Speaker 5: that's something I can rally people around.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to medicaid party, which is this drug

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Speaker 1: price negotiation thing we saw that Mehmet Oz. Doctor Oz

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Speaker 1: has said that it basically the ending it right. They're

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Speaker 1: not paying out, they're not making it. They're making it

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Speaker 1: more expensive to get drugs. Doctor Oz's answer was, it's

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Speaker 1: paying all this money to drug companies, which is the point.

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Speaker 1: But okay, RFK Junior not into it. This seems like

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Speaker 1: it's going to make drugs a lot more expensive. What's

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Speaker 1: your understanding of what this is going to do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really worried about that because again, this was

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Speaker 5: you know, with part dy of medicare. We knew that

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Speaker 5: this was something that was was helping address the needs

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Speaker 5: that so many Americans face. Yes, they were improvements that

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Speaker 5: needed to be made, which is why we needed to

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Speaker 5: make sure that we could allow medicaid to negotiate drug prices,

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Speaker 5: something that the Trump administration has has taken their foot

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Speaker 5: off the gas and made it harder. And so they

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Speaker 5: have no right to complain about this when they have

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Speaker 5: been sabotaging every element of this along the way. You know,

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Speaker 5: So this is clearly you know, something where they have

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Speaker 5: you know, sabotage and then lo and behold, say, oh

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Speaker 5: it's not working, so we just got to get rid

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Speaker 5: of the whole thing. That's how they're That's what they're

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Speaker 5: doing with everything we saw with the dismantling of USAI D.

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Speaker 5: We see it with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. They

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Speaker 5: sabotage something and then say it's not working, right, and

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Speaker 5: so like like the fact that they feel so bold

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Speaker 5: to go after medicare, I mean, it just shows you

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Speaker 5: just how extreme they are. And what they're doing is

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Speaker 5: they're banking on the idea that the American people aren't

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Speaker 5: going to be able to focus in on this and

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Speaker 5: understand what's going on and how this is going to

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Speaker 5: raise costs. So we need to make sure that we're

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Speaker 5: focused on this, that we see how the tariffs have

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Speaker 5: been raising costs for healthcare, for prescription drugs, for other

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Speaker 5: things that we need in our lives. You know, this

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Speaker 5: is something where the President has been moving us in

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Speaker 5: that direction of high costs. Meanwhile, he himself is profiting

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Speaker 5: off of the Oval Office to the tune of billions

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Speaker 5: of dollars.

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Speaker 4: For him.

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Speaker 5: It's family and so that's the contrast that needs to happen.

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Speaker 5: It's like, you know, the Trump family has made billions

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Speaker 5: of dollars since January twentieth, twenty twenty five. How much

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Speaker 5: has your family made in the last year and a half.

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Speaker 5: And I think we can really see who the government

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Speaker 5: right now is working for. It's not us, it's for

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Speaker 5: you know, those handful of people that we're up on

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Speaker 5: stage with Trump during his inauguration, They're the ones that

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Speaker 5: are benefiting from this.

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Speaker 1: Andy Kim, how are you going to pay for medicaid

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Speaker 1: for medicaids?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, first of all, as we said, you know,

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Speaker 5: this is something that's gonna save us a lot of

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Speaker 5: money in the long run, but you know, in general,

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Speaker 5: when it comes to what comes next for the Democratic platform, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I mean, look when we see what the Trump administration

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Speaker 5: has rolled back, these tax cuts for the billionaires, that

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Speaker 5: is what they gutted medicaid for you know, So yes,

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Speaker 5: we're going to have to make sure that we're dismantling

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Speaker 5: what the Trump administration did with their reconciliation bill, that

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Speaker 5: big ugly bill and other things like that. So you know,

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Speaker 5: what we need to do right now is put together

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Speaker 5: our platform of what it is that we're for and

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Speaker 5: be able to do the work, to be able to

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Speaker 5: make sure that we are doing this responsibly and coming

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Speaker 5: up with the ideas like you know, going against those

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Speaker 5: tax cuts for the billionaires, uh and making sure they're

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Speaker 5: paying their fair share. You know, those are the types

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Speaker 5: of things that we need to be pushing on and

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Speaker 5: that's how we'll be able to do this.

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Speaker 1: So what is those billionaire taxes again? And you think

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Speaker 1: you can pay for him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean look yeah, I mean like we saw

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Speaker 5: like absolute like loopholes for you know, for the billionaires.

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Speaker 5: We see, you know, how they've done everything that they

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Speaker 5: can to be able to you know, to to create

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Speaker 5: other loopholes, or to slash the corporate tax freate and

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Speaker 5: other types of things that they've been pushing on. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 5: they're trying to you know, create a you know, one

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Speaker 5: point five trillion dollar defense budget, pull money from what

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Speaker 5: we do on the domestic side for our families into

951
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Speaker 5: this bottomless pit of war with Iran. Like, those are

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Speaker 5: the things that we're going to have to make sure

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Speaker 5: that we are closing up and be able to redirect

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Speaker 5: the funds to where the American people want them, which

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Speaker 5: is to be able to help our families with the

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Speaker 5: costs of daily living. You know, a lot of the

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Speaker 5: Americans I talked to, they're not ad asking for the moon.

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Speaker 5: They're just asking him to be able to have some support,

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Speaker 5: to be able to afford the housing, to afford food,

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Speaker 5: to be able to afford you know, some medical care.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're like, that is not too much to

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Speaker 5: ask for.

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Speaker 1: Andy Kim, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: No no moment, Jesse Cannon, my drunk fast.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's all happening thanks to Tiss James. I

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Speaker 2: think that you and I just sit and baffle our

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Speaker 2: minds about Calshie and Poally market. Well, Tiss James is

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Speaker 2: coming for Calshie.

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Speaker 1: You know who's not a Calshi partner us.

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Speaker 3: That is, I know we've both got the DM slide,

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Speaker 3: right right.

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Speaker 1: We both got DM slides. We are not ever going

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Speaker 1: to be Calshi partners. You know why because I have

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Speaker 1: an eighteen year old son, and I know that they

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Speaker 1: have targeted these kids and they're trying to make them

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Speaker 1: all gambling addicts, and it is so dangerous and like, honestly,

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Speaker 1: you and I are both the same age, and we

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Speaker 1: grew up in a time when gambling was legal only

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, New Jersey, parts of New Jersey, Atlantic City.

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Speaker 3: I as gonna say, yeah, like a few a few

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Speaker 3: select weird.

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Speaker 1: Districts of Native American reservations, and that was it. And

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Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, it was not the way it

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Speaker 1: is now. And like there's a reason for that. It's

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Speaker 1: highly It's like why we don't, you know, serve cocaine

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Speaker 1: in bars because it's very addictive stuff.

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Speaker 3: Technically we were growing up there was that bar.

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Speaker 1: And anyway, the point is, the point is the reason

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Speaker 1: they don't serve cocaine in bars is the same reason

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Speaker 1: that we should not have Calshie on the internet which

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Speaker 1: is is very addictive and like our government may not

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Speaker 1: regulate anything, but they should regulate cigarettes and yimbling and

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Speaker 1: drugs and also pollution. That's it for this episode of

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