WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: SiR 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:10.400 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:16.640 Welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme. I'm here 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.960 with the almighty Team Supreme. I assume that brand new 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.160 Bill is on the streets right now. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.040 We're here in the water, okay. 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.760 Now here on vacation with the girls. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.400 He's on vacation. Where Bill vacations? 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:31.640 Where's these vacations? 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.440 They didn't on a boat somewhere? 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:35.000 Damn? 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.800 Okay, you would say I'm with a bunch of all 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:39.839 the girls though, so you know, it's kind of vacation. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.720 That's what quality time. Let's let's what's up? We got 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.479 fon Tigelow. You're in North Carolina, I. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.080 Assume, yeah, yeah, man, what. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.920 Is that artwork that's on the left side, your left side? 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.840 I always wonder that when you're interviewing from this place. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:01:00.480 What is that we did? An artist did that illustration 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:03.600 for us? It was like a card. Okay, let's warn 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.720 me on top of about like a like a plane card. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:07.800 And yes, I just framed up put in my studio. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.360 Okay, that's what's up? Like, Yeah, how a y'all doing? 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.600 We are good. I'm sorry y'all all forgiving you all this. 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.880 I'm after looking at Sara's album cover, I realized I 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.080 need to put my workout clothes on every day, and like, 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:22.920 I'm a workout So that's what I'm going to do 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:24.440 after this. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.440 Is inspirational. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.919 Physic together, in your post pandemic physical together. 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:33.600 We all hear you loud and clear. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:33.720 Bro. 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.960 You know summer's coming up, you know, giving my Sarah 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.280 on Steve, how's it going? 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:46.959 Good morning everybody. Yeah, how's the network doing? I'm not 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.160 sure if it exists anymore? 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:49.440 No more network? 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.120 Oh wow, I don't know. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.160 There was some tumultuous season seven. Now we're in season eight. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.320 I'm not really sure he's in charge, and you know 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:57.960 we're moving forward. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.360 Damn, you got m needed out of your own network. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:01.960 Kind of. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.120 Damn, Steve, It's okay, we got to do a network episode. 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:09.320 Yeah, you're right. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.720 I still got my quest of Supreme family though. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.960 So basically I will say that this particular episode, this 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.840 is one of those practice what you preach moments, because 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.960 I think around October of last year, I kind of 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:27.600 put a note out to the producers of the show 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.240 Layah cousin Jake Brittany that you know, I didn't want 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.400 to get too comfortable, Like when you get way too 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.520 comfortable in your comfort zone, that could be too an 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.520 easy downfall. And I was noticing another podcast that sort 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:41.320 of stayed in their. 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.399 Comfort zone and they had a really great. 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.519 Run, and now they're kind of running out of ideas 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:50.680 because they're not pivoting and getting out of that comfort 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.360 place they like. And of course, when you're coming to 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.600 Quest of Supreme, nine times out of ten, we're talking 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.880 to veterans that have put like, you know, twenty thirty, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.680 forty fifty years the game, and you know, it's always 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.680 fun and very easy to go back and and sort 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.200 of marvel on someone's legacy. I gave a note that 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:12.440 I really, especially after the Dave Matthews episode, that I 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:17.240 wanted to talk to newer artists, younger artists that maybe 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:20.120 I wasn't that familiar with, like the back of my hand. 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.000 You know, it's not like us doing a Narti Michael 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.840 Walden episode, or us doing a Quincy Jones episode, or 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.720 you know, something of that level. 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:32.639 And so wait, we did a Quincy Jones episode, Steve. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:33.320 I'll talk about it. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.680 We did a Quincy Jones episode, believe it or not. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.000 Actually, you can tell us about it. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:44.040 Yes, we've done a Quincy Jones episode. So anyway, that said, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.400 I kind of said, start in twenty twenty four. I 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.760 want to switch it up a little bit and start 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:55.800 connecting with tomorrow's legends. You know, people kind of ten 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.360 years maybe fifteen years in the game, younger than your 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.760 thirty your forty year old veterans that will be tomorrow's legends. 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:09.200 I think it's rather apropos that our guest today is 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.320 sort of running on an ongoing theme that we've been 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.240 having with a lot of ours that we've been speaking 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.240 to in that what their lives were before the pandemic 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.680 has sort of pivoted and moved into another direction. And 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:28.160 basically this artist, of course has Brandy recognition. He has 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.400 a new album entitled Heavy, sort of making the rounds 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.000 as we speak, getting a lot of accolades, and along 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:38.480 with his collaborations and his previous records, I'm kind of 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.279 liking this new place that artists are in right now 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:44.680 in terms of. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.800 Putting their heart out there and. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.839 Showing their vulnerability and showing their journey, which is needed. 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:55.920 So pretty much the ongoing theme to me is rather 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.719 apropos and our guest is no exception to it. Please welcome. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.280 Two question of supreme sir. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:05.920 What are you doing? 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:08.520 Where are you talking to us? 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.440 From this morning eighty fourth? I'm over here in Inglewood, man. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:13.880 You're still in Inglewood? 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:14.680 Yay? 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.240 Course of course, of course, yeah, I can't leave. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:18.440 Man. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.120 It's the neighborhood actually got better since they did the 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.360 stadium and they're working on Clippers stadium over here. If 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:24.880 you know anything about the city, has been a lot 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:25.880 of changes over here. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:27.920 This gentrification thing is real over here. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.120 It's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.200 for somebody that still lives in the city. People that 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.400 held onto their houses and didn't sell and move and 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.120 stuff like that. They're up right now. The house, I 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.839 mean it is up right now. So I know everybody 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:42.920 around me is happy. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.520 There's something special about LA people. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.720 They really hold on to their homes in South I 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.440 live in lamert So I'm just saying, get these people 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:49.200 hold on to their. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.719 Homes for sure, if they know any better, because the 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.440 property value is just going to keep going up. The 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.000 center city of Los Angeles, including like Inglewood and copp In. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.120 The inner city is flourishing. You know what, I mean, 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.600 and the people that owned homes have been there thirty 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.919 forty years. So my neighborhood is the same people I 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.840 run into, the same people I grew up with. They 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.320 still live in their mama house. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.760 And thanks, I'm Merre's funny because the landlords around here 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.599 are old and black too, so they just is discriminatory. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.120 So when I got my place, he definitely looked me 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:14.719 up and down like, okay, you fit, Like. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.159 Yeah, that's weird. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.839 I went back to my old neighborhood, my old house 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:26.000 that you remember, Laya in South Philly, Saint Albans. Yeah, 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:32.039 sad to say that I'm the last owner of pretty 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.960 much of that block, and sad to say I'm the 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.120 last black owner, Like it was a black neighborhood. 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.240 When I moved in, and now I didn't recognize that shit. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.640 I felt like Marty McFly walking through nineteen fifty, like 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.960 we got Starbucks on the corner, Like that's hilarious. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:49.799 It's crazy. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.520 Because for reference, sir, you should know that, like Philadelphia 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:55.680 is probably in stage eight A, gentrification is a one 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.720 to ten. I always say, like DC and Harlem are 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:02.440 in stage fifteen past ten, but LA is probably in a. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.840 Five or six. So I know you're saying what you're saying, Yeah, 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:06.160 I do. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.640 Y'all just got there. You just got the stadium. We 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.800 just get in the train stations. It's no, they're jogging. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:12.800 They're jogging. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:13.840 They're jogging. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.520 Wait, so you're saying to me, because the thing was, 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.840 I went to that stadium on not opening night, but 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:30.800 like opening month. Now, the stadium beautiful. Where I park though, Dad. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.880 You park at the Forum, probably trying to get you over. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:38.400 To so far dog. You know, that was a couple 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.680 of years ago. I hope it's gotten better. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.920 So you know, it was, it happened. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:44.800 It was a little weird. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.560 No, No, it's still a hectic now, mind you. I'm 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.320 not I'm not a I'm not a football fan, so 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.040 I don't care about the stadium. It's not my thing, 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.160 you know what I mean. But it's just it's done 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.480 a lot for the city, you know what I mean. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:59.520 And having met the mayor and talked to him about 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.880 it then and seen you know, all of the businesses 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.480 that have come up, and you know it kind of 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.040 it makes you look at it differently. 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:06.280 You know. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.720 I definitely was thinking about protecting, you know, the people 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.280 that were getting displaced because people got displaced. You know, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:12.840 we ain't gonna talk about that, but you know they 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.960 tore down homes and stuff like that to move things 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.440 in for the Clippers stadium, and you know that was 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.280 a big thing. But once you start to see the benefit, 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.280 you kind of look at it like this can work, 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.480 you know. But it's all about the community coming together. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:31.560 And I from from my perspective, I don't think Inglewood 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.280 ever being completely gentrified, you know what I mean. I 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.559 see it as it might end up being a melting pot, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.959 which it already kind of is. There's a huge Asian 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.240 community out here, there's a huge community of someones. There's 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.200 a huge you know, Mexican community as well as all 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.320 the black folks out here. So you know what I mean, 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:49.559 you're gonna have to kick out a whole bunch of 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.920 different people before you get to straight up just gentrification, 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:54.839 you know. And I don't think I don't think we're 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:55.880 on that route. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.479 I dig it. There were you born in Inglewood. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.000 Inglewood Adjacment. We're Los Angeles baby, So me and my 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.240 family were all born in like South Central, but my 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.640 dad was born in Inglewood and the house that we 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.520 grew up in My grandmother bought in nineteen sixty four, 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.440 so we had been in the city my whole life. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.160 But no, I was born at uh she I think 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.719 I was born a Killer King. I know my mom was. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.199 Okay, Killer King? 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.160 Is that what you said? Killer King? Is the hospital 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.720 in la is famous? 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:32.719 What is it known? 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:33.840 For people that aren't? 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.080 It's in the hood. So when you get shot, they 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.880 take you to Killer King and nobody survives at Killer King. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.720 Like Brady, you were going to say that, Okay, every. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.720 City to Killer King. You're telling them take me anywhere. 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:52.839 But in Philadelphia that would be Misser Cordia Hospital. I 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:53.160 get it. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:54.160 I got you that. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:55.040 That make sense. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.160 We called it miserable Codia Cordia. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:09:58.520 Yeah. 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:02.760 I'll ask you what I ask all of our guests. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.600 Do you remember what your first musical memory was in life? 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.520 Great question? Okay? Now, which had a piano roll on me? 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.640 Because I don't have perfect pitch. But let's just give 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.959 an example. My mother will be at the piano and 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:19.040 she'd be like, this is see. If you have your 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.439 fingers here, you're hitting the note. If you go down here, 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:23.760 you are flat. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.760 If you go up beast, you are strong. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.080 See you know what I mean. That's my first musical 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.120 memory is my mother teaching us how to sing, or 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.240 trying to teach us how to sing. And my first 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.640 musical performance, I was five years old in front of 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:44.760 the church and we sang Oh Holy Night, and so 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.360 I you know, I grew up. I grew up in 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.840 a house where music was everything. You know, I don't 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.360 remember my life when I don't remember a time of 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:55.079 my life where somebody wasn't creating or somebody wasn't performing. 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.559 And you know, I'm blessed to be in a musical family. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.720 Your mom, she was a singer and already she sang 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:06.160 for Steve not Stevie Shaka and Michael Jackson that she 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:07.000 did backs. 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:12.400 For them, yep, yep, yeah man, Miss Jackie, Miss Jackie, yep. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.839 And prayers up for my mom. Man. She was in 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:16.840 a car accident a couple of days ago. So she's 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:22.000 she's got surgery today at twelve, and we're just fearful. Man. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.400 She fractured her second vertebrae and it's been you know, 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.320 his last couple of days has been really tough on us. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.679 But she's doing good. She's in good spirits, but she's. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.400 Yeah, resu, how long was she singing? 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.520 She grew up in a church too. Her her grandfather 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.920 was a pastor, mother's singer in the church, you know 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.040 what I mean. Her and her brothers were raised in church. 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.440 So my mom doesn't know anything about music. She started 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.360 playing piano when she was six years old, and my 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.959 uncle Andrew started playing bass when he was seventeen and 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.240 never looked backing. Yeah, you guys know Andrew Gruchet. If 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.040 you know anything about gospel music, yea better know Andrew 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:03.160 Grouchet God, yes, yes, yeah, the Godfather of base you know. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.240 And my mother was blessed to have a brother like Andrew. 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.160 I can say their dynamic kind of creates the dynamic 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.080 that you see between me and my brother the Smoke 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.719 and my brother Deveond. They help each other when they can, 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.199 but they're individuals and they're very powerful on their own. So, 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.120 you know, it was it was always the you know, 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.400 just the joy to watch my mother work, you know, 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.719 being the miniSTR of music at church. You know, she 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.200 was out there every Sunday. Well, let's let's be honest. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:32.920 She was there Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, you know choir, Yeah, 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:36.800 Bible study choir, rehearsal, Friday service, Sunday service, you know 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.880 what I mean. My mom was a workforce, you know, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.880 and still to this day. We was with her yesterday 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.559 and the only thing she was worried about, you know, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.680 when they're talking about surgery, she's like, can I play 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.679 the piano? That's you know what I mean, Like, I 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.920 don't care about nothing else. I need to play the piano, 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.160 you know what I mean. So that's the type of 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:55.760 mother I had. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.559 Well, were you Seventh Day of ventist. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:03.600 Or oh no, we're non denomination okay, oh damn, okay, Okay, 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:04.360 it was just real. 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.480 Christians that did the thing. Like you know, it's just 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:07.360 different church days. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.000 Well often when I hear every day usually it's seven 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.800 Day of Venice. But and it's weird, not denomination when 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:19.160 people always thought with more lenient, not too super strict 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:25.760 on things that are normally you know the law, right right? Okay, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:31.160 So non denominational. Do you remember like your first creative project, 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.360 Like what was the first thing that you remember doing 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:37.079 creatively or what was singing in that church? Your first Okay? 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.680 So when I was younger, my mom bade us do music, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.080 and as a kid, I didn't appreciate it. I didn't 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.360 understand it. I shunned away from it, and I didn't 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.680 I didn't like it. So when I was about fourteen fifteen, 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.920 we sat down and had a conversation about what I wanted, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.800 and I was like, I want to play sports. So 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.520 I stopped doing music. Didn't do music ten years. I 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.360 didn't even come into the game until I was like 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.440 twenty three, twenty four. My brothers were writing twenty four 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.680 something like that. Yeah, twenty four, twenty five, something like that. Yeah. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.720 I didn't write my first song until I was twenty six. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.520 Wo Yeah, you know what I man, how old are 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:08.960 you right now? 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:10.160 Thirty seven? 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:15.920 I gotta know a beer? 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.320 Well, I'm sorry, I think when you're my age fifty three? Hello, 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:25.000 but everyone to me is just nineteen. Yeah, we got 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:25.560 to work on that. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.160 You thought you just talking to a kid. Man. 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:29.520 I got. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.920 This young kid. Let me hear me, let me. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:35.160 Some things. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:37.600 My knowledge on this young boy. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:39.280 Man. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.560 Hey, So it just it just the hands up, you know. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:44.920 I started off my because I'm I'm the type of 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.040 person I am. My thing is knowledge. When when I 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.280 like something, I got to know how to do it right, 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.480 You know what I mean? So I went to school. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.400 I went to Los Angeles School. I was my first 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.360 step when I when I started writing songs, I was like, oh, 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.440 I stuck, let me figure out what's going on. I 0:14:58.520 --> 0:14:59.800 was terrible at it, you know what I mean, And 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:01.760 my my brother was kind enough to show me that 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.600 there was potential behind it. But I was like, naw, 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.240 this don't sound like what these niggas are doing. So 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.960 I went to the LA Film School to two years 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.480 of my life and really focused in on trying to 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.280 just become a better musician and engineer. So I'm a 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.680 recording engineer by trade. That was my first, you know thing, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.120 and from there I started to just develop my sound 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.000 and my songwriting and stuff like that. And this is 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:27.920 all while I was just working as an engineer. My 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.000 first big gig was working for Tyrese, which, yeah, that 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:31.640 was interesting. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:36.320 Yeah, I like that faith and That's love Supreme Office 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:37.560 next week. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.880 Shout up to Tyrese. Taught me a lot about people, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.200 taught me a lot about the music industry, taught me 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.040 a lot about independence and how much I wanted it 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.800 at the time, Like I'm showing up the sessions. I'm his, 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.960 you know, head engineer. In the house. I got six 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.400 people working for me, you know, and I'm just watching 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.880 all these other songwriters come in and try to bless him. Wow. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.240 At the time, I was writing songs and I had 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.320 found a little confidence. But I wouldn't have said that 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.160 because it was my job, my day job, So I 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.360 wasn't even trying to like get in get in the mix. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.960 But I played a couple of records for one of 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.280 the other songwriters one day and they were like looking 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.160 at me crazy, you know what I mean. We were 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.880 at a camp for his last project called the Black 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:25.640 Rolls Album. Yeah, Yeah, and my brother Davion was one 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.960 of the songwriters. I got him in to write songs 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.520 for Tyrese, and he just wasn't having it. He was like, 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.440 fuck that, you know what I mean, You're gonna play 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.360 some of these folkus fucking songs for Tyrese. So they 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.120 had this big meeting where everybody would sit down at 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.080 the end of the week and play two three records 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:39.640 or something like that. And I had like a batch 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.880 of like five ready, and I was the last person 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.400 to play records. Everybody played records as like Darrel got records. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:49.840 I come in, I play my songs and everybody lost 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.360 their shit. It was like a big This was probably 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.080 the biggest music moment for me at today at the time. 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.800 But Tyrese runs up gives me a big hug. I 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.400 didn't know, Oh my god, I didn't know. I had 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.200 to tell him underneath my wing. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:04.800 You know. 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.960 I just you know, you know what I mean, and 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.800 like a two weeks yeah, you know, just there's so 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.040 much going on. Man, God is moving in this room. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:16.120 People. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.320 Hey, look, look, can't nobody do Tyree's like me. 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.439 I'll tell you what did you make Black Role? 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:25.439 Did you get on the record? 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:25.920 Yeah? 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:27.200 Yeah, I got a couple of songs on it. I 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:28.680 can't tell you the names of him because I forgot 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.280 I don't remember, but I definitely made the project for sure. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.960 But you know, having that big moment, and this is 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.920 a lesson for a lot of musicians. Just because people 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:38.960 look like they're fucking with you or they look like 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.399 they rock, and don't mean they got your best interests 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.440 at heart, you know what I mean. Even after that incident, 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.399 you know, I kept working for Tyreese. He just our 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.760 relationship didn't like progress. It seemed like he was trying 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.680 to like he's trying to stand back me. 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:52.879 Man. 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.680 He wasn't trying to let me shine. He wasn't trying 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:56.240 to put me out there to where he wanted me 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.360 to be his engineer. And there was a day where 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.000 Jennifer hood And came to the house. I don't know 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.359 if she remembers this, but you know, she came in 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.320 to meet him, and I let her in the house. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.440 You know, I'm like, hey, she you know, anothers nary, nonchalant, 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:12.600 and he, you know, was introducing her to everybody in 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.199 the house and just didn't even say my first name. Bro. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:16.720 Like it was that this one man. I don't know 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.680 if Tyrese knows this story, he remembers this, but he 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.240 couldn't say my name to Jennifer us and Jennifer Usson 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.560 didn't look me in the eye. And I took that 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.160 very personally. I quit that day. I walked in the room. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.440 It was like ten niggas in that room, writers, producers, 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.280 Jenniferussis didn't right there. Eric Bellinger was there. I forget 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.040 who else was there, but oh ty dollad Time was there, 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.719 I think. But I walked in there, I was like, hey, Tyrese, Hey, hey, 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.680 pay me for the day, bro, I quit in front 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:43.639 of everybody, was like, what what what do you mean? Him? Hey, hey, 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.840 hold him on, y'all, hold him on, y'all. Let me 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:47.879 go out at him and talk to me outside. And 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:51.240 there was no convincing me of that. And I think 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.640 after that, I probably was signed to TDE like after 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.040 like six months or something like that, or I you know, 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.639 I was already like popping. I put my own project out. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.160 Wouldn't was the first thing we dropped into Seven Sundays 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.160 And it was over after that, and I've never looked back, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.320 you know what I mean. And I think tyre for 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.159 that experience because it taught me a lot about how 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.960 to treat people, you know, first or four months. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:15.760 I want to ask you about your first about Seven 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.520 Sundays and the label you put that out on Fresh Selects. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.000 Talk about just that period in your life. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:21.119 Man. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.720 I love that record. I played it, you know all 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.200 the time. Uh No, man, just I just wanted to 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.080 talk talk about that time in your life. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:29.120 Man. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.800 I was I was broken, homeless. I just put tyree 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.480 and I didn't know what I was gonna do with 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.000 my life, you know. I was trying to figure things out. 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.040 And we had just put out this this tape that 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.119 had like twenty one songs. What it's called Wooden Voodoo 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.560 is it's my first tape. If anybody really looks for it, 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:49.479 it's like fault Wooden Voodoo. 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:53.680 It's got some stuff on there. 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.280 But Kenny heard it. Kenny Fresh from Fresh Selects heard it, 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.240 and he contacted me and was like, I want to 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.000 put this project out. I was like, okay, I'm already 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.400 working on something, and we started to playlist for seven 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.440 Sundays and seven Sundays is what introduced me to Top 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.720 and got me in the room with Tde. So I 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.879 look at that time as like this that was probably 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:17.040 like the highlight of my career because it opened so 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.399 many doors for me. And I did that all by myself. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.880 It was just me and Kenny, and he really didn't 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.880 even do anything. He just suggested, like I like this song. 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:24.600 I like that song. 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.600 I did the master, I cut the vocal, you know 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.000 what I mean? And yes, I said, I did the 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.800 master myself. Like I was engineering back then. I don't 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.480 do that shit no more. I got I got helped. 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:38.760 But wait, even now, as as an artist, you I mean, 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.320 you're an engineer, so you would know how you want 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:42.120 the song to sound. 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.240 Yes, yes, oh yeah, I mean I still cut my 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.800 own vocal. I can't let go of those rings. Like 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.600 I've tried. I've hired engineers, I've sat down. But imagine 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.080 that you're in the booth, guys in the chair and 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.040 you cut a vocal, but you just want him to 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.040 nudge it. You have to say, I need you to 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.800 nudge this to the left. Now imagine I'm sitting in 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.399 the here, I cut the vocal. I need to nudge it. 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:04.360 I can nudge it, right. 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:05.760 I nudged it. You know what I mean. 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:06.240 And that's it. 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.600 That's the whole thing. Steve, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No. 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.160 A mirror is much more for people who don't realize. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.920 He's much more of an engineer than people know. He 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:25.240 mixes more than I do most of the time. I 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:30.160 mean I'm recording because he's you know, playing and producing 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.280 a lot of times. But when it comes time to 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.280 do rough mixes and certainly in the final mix stage, 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.440 Amir has got his hands on the dials since I 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.000 met him, since Electrical Lady in ninety six, he's been 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:42.560 He gets gets right on the board. It's easier and 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.680 quicker than to try and explain what you want if 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.600 you just know the basics, you know, and and a 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:51.000 mir loves plugins, so he just loves playing around with 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:55.520 toys essentially. But yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot. 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:59.520 I mean, D'Angelo was recording his own vocals, Yeah. 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:00.240 Things like that. 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:04.840 But yeah, it's certainly helpful to as an artist to 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:06.679 know how to engineer it. 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:10.040 I would think from a singing standpoint, which is such 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.440 a vulnerable thing to do. Are you the type of 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:17.080 singer that needs pretty much your space? Like, are you 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:20.240 the singer that can turn it on if five people 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.400 were in the room watching you, the engineer. 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.560 Your boys, your. 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.600 Family and there watching you, or is it like everyone 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:29.320 get out the room engineer too. 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:30.760 I could do this myself. 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.800 No, no, no, I don't care who's watching you watch 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.920 especially with this album. Yeah, oh yeah, oh well this 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.160 album was different. I was high most of the time, 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:42.879 so that wasn't nobody around. 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:46.800 Okay, no, no, you can stay in the room. 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:48.400 I don't I don't mind people being around. Just shut 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:51.480 the fuck up. I got to cut the vocals. Be quiet. 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.040 I don't want to hear you on my track. But 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:57.040 you know, nah, these last few years. I honestly don't 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.280 know how these songs came. I can't explain it. I 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:01.520 don't even remember most of these sessions. I don't remember 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:04.440 a lot because I was just slated. You know a 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:05.840 lot of people have heard the story of a million 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:06.919 times about me going to. 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:08.400 Rehab and all that blah blah blah. 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.119 You know, I beat that story into the ground. So 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:16.480 if we can just swim by this real quick, I'm sober. 0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:20.200 It's been a year and five months, you know what 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.320 I mean. I found so bride. I found sobriety my way, 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:25.280 you know what I mean. I still smoke a little weed. Everyone. 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:26.280 I'm going to ask you, I. 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:29.200 Thank you for saying this. Thank you because yeah, you 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:30.280 want to say space. 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.040 No sobriety. Sobriety is different for everybody, you know what 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:35.879 I mean, everybody has. If you're an addict like I was, 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.480 you have a DC now your doc. Your drug of 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:40.399 choice is your drug of choice. That doesn't mean that 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:42.560 everything will affect you like that will, but you got 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.520 to stay away from that thing. And you know, I 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:50.640 found my way through depression because you know, people don't 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.920 just do drugs. There are root issues too, you know, 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.879 there's reasoning behind it, and I had root issues that 0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:01.000 I find so therapy, rehab, family, everything that. You know, 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:03.399 all of the love I had helped me kind of 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:05.840 figure out what was going on, and it placed me 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:07.800 back in a position where I could fight for my life. 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:13.239 You know, I've been somewhat transparent about my journey. I mean, 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:17.720 I'm now like three years removed from the path I'm 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.920 on now, but I can definitely acknowledge that year one 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:26.760 of this new paradigm shift quest love. The first seven 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:33.640 months I was actively, subconsciously and consciously trying to sabotage 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.560 it because it was just a very fearful place to 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.159 be in. Could you talk about your experience behind me? 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.119 Yeah, of course, Yeah. And I like what you said about, 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:44.960 you know, there being a fear of success because I 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.000 think like there was never down in my mind that 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.359 I'll be good at music, you know what I mean, 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.720 But there was. I'm a married man. I've been married 0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:56.119 for fifteen years, my wife being with my wife at 0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:59.240 twenty and you know, the type of music I make 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:03.159 and the artartists that everyone wanted me to be, me 0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.920 being a married man, those two things didn't mix. So 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:09.520 you know, there was always this push and pull of 0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:12.600 you know what I mean. I want to succeed, but 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.320 you know, I don't know what it's going to look like, 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.960 you know what I mean. And as I started to 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.159 progress in my career, I started to notice that, you know, 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:24.720 people didn't give a fuck about my marriage, you know 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.960 what I mean. And that made it very hard for 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:31.040 me to enjoy my career, you know what I mean, 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.480 and enjoy the successes of my music. And then on 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.800 top of that, the attention that you get when you're 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.040 in the position we're in makes it very hard for 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.480 you to be you know, to see things how everyone 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.600 else sees it. Let's feel like that, you know what 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.200 I mean. It's used your view on you know, relationships 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.680 and people, and it really kind of like set me 0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.040 back because I didn't go about it the right way, 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:55.840 you know what I mean. I wasn't doing a good 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.440 job of just taking care of myself first, you know 0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.760 what I mean. I was so concerned with what everybody 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:02.840 thought about me and what everybody wanted me to be 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.359 as an artist and stuff like that, and I was 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.159 people pleasing and things like that, and then I was 0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:10.639 just neglecting my relationship with my wife. You know what 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.400 I mean, for this image of serve that I thought 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.720 I needed to be, and then I got sick of him, 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.000 and you know, it had already caused problems at home. 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.359 Didn't want to go back to who he was, and 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.920 found this middle place of like, I'm just gonna silently 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:28.200 like self medicate, you know what I mean, because I'm depressed, 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:32.120 My home life is messed up staring who I want 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:35.200 to be. But niggas love him. They love that guy, 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.000 you know what I mean? And I just, you know, 0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.919 I started to self medicate, and you know, didn't tell 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.280 anybody until it was too late. And once I decided 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.600 that it was time to tell people, the pandemic happened, 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.440 you know. But you know, as someone that you know 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.639 doesn't give a fuck about like fame or like, I 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.200 don't do this for accolades. I actually like love music. 0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:01.600 It's very hard to appreciate artistry and everything it comes 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.320 with when you know what I mean. People don't like 0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.320 respect it or respect you. They don't respect your humanity 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:09.720 when they see you as an artist, you know what 0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.680 I mean. And I had to learn that the hard way. 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:13.520 I was just gonna ask, what else did you have 0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.680 outside of rehab coming out of COVID. You also it 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:18.600 sounds like you also have people around you that you 0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.560 may have had to shuffle a little bit change, Oh. 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.679 For sure, for show for shows, I got, I got 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.639 friends I can't see, you know what I mean. My 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:31.359 family was very hands on in my health and my recovery, 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.240 you know what I mean. So me and my family 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.840 we were already tight knit, but this kind of just 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.119 brought us closer together. But yeah, I definitely like my 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.119 whole circle is different. I don't got I got like 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:42.840 two friends that I call, you know what I mean. 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:44.600 And for the most part, I speak to my mother, 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:46.720 my father, and my brothers and try to keep. 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:46.879 It like that. 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:48.720 We haven't talked about your dad. 0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:50.800 My dad. 0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.040 My dad is a he's a funny guy. His name's 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.639 ron and he's gonna be on the interview. 0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:01.879 It is, yes, Ronald. 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.320 Yeah, my dad is the oldest of like six kids. 0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.280 He's one of the most gentle people you'll ever meet 0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.560 in your life. And he don't sing, he don't do music. 0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:17.200 But he loves my mama. He loves you know what 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:17.640 I mean. 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.359 Sir, talk about growing up in that like being a 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.680 married man and growing up and having that because a lot. 0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.159 Of people have a great example might not mind you. 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.920 My father, when I was growing up, he spent some 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.960 time in the pen. He he had two strikes before I, 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.159 before I was you know, thought of so when I 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.880 when I was when I was six, he got out 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.280 of jail and never looked back, you know, and took 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.040 care of his family. And I've seen him struggle so hard, 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:45.680 you know what I mean. You know, I having two 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.480 strikes in the nineties, it wasn't too much work for him. 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:51.400 He you know, he was a limo driver, he's a chaplain. 0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.400 He's done so many different things just to provide for 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.200 us and give us opportunities to be great. And we 0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.280 love him to death man. And he's still, you know, 0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.120 just superhands on in my life. And you know, I 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.040 talk to him all the time. But I think he's 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.200 a funny guy because my dad is getting old, Like 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:10.320 he's an old man. Now what is old, sir? Oh 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.120 my gosh, she's an old But what's even more, what's 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.200 even more funny is my brother's are turning into old 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:16.920 man to meet and me and me and my brothers 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:18.600 we wake up in the morning with neck pains and 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:20.520 all kind of thirty seven. You know I ain't no 0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:22.960 spring chicken. Man, Are you the youngest of you had? 0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:23.160 Three? 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:24.520 Yeah? Yeah? 0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.600 Wait hold Steve smoke he thirty eight, about to be 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:30.920 thirty nine, always. 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:37.600 Youngins man, It was moving fast. See this explains it 0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:42.760 because again I'm thinking, like, damn man, for twenty four 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:44.640 year old, this guy got a lot of wisdom under 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.400 his belt. Now now I get it. 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:48.920 I get it now. 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:57.480 As far as your pen game is concerned, how hard 0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:02.720 is it to you use your music to express what 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:03.960 you're feeling inside. 0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.640 I wouldn't say it's difficult. It just hurts when I 0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.000 do it. You know, then this is like a superpower 0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.320 I've developed over years of like trying, of trial and error, 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.080 just pulling from emotional places. You know, I'm really good 0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:19.000 at it. And you know the poetry comes from pain. 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.560 So it's kind of a second nature thing for me now, man. 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:24.680 And like right now I'm sitting in my house. I 0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:26.920 haven't written a song in like probably three four months. 0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.120 I'm like an out of practice musician, it feels like, 0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.160 but I know as soon as I sit down to 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.480 do it, I know my process. I know what I 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.680 want out of these songs and if I hear the 0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.479 music and it's it's there, the songs down there already 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.720 written at this point, you know what I mean. But 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.800 that comes from years of working. I put so much 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:45.800 time in that people don't see, you know what I mean, 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.760 with songwriting, writing for other artists, writing for myself. I 0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.840 got a pile of probably five hundred songs that I 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.320 ain't never gonna see the light of day. But I 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:55.400 go back and listen to them and examine them and 0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.320 pick them apart, just to you know, try to find 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:01.760 too my craft, you know. But I'm proud that people 0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.280 like know me as like a songwriter, like they actually 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.400 like the lyrics and ship like that, because you know, 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.400 I don't put you know, I don't want to like 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:13.840 ever ever, you know, assume that people listen to my 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.320 ship and they love it, you know, they love what 0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:17.640 I got to say, you know what I mean. 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.280 I'm crashing down, that's my record. Yeah. 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.280 Yeah, I'm blessed to be in a position I'm in. 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.080 Like a lot of people just they try to say 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.840 cool ship, you know what I mean, I'm trying. I'm 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:33.440 trying to dig so the end that it's relatable to 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.400 the outer world, you know, what I mean. I think 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.200 that's my secret. When you sit down to write, are 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.800 you like a lyrics guy first or melody guy first? 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.400 It depends. Yeah, it all depends. 0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:45.520 You know that. 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.520 People people that try to say that one or the 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:49.520 other don't really to me, I ain't doing it right, 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.120 you know what I mean? Because you you know it's 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.480 this is this is I don't know. It's like basketball. 0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.239 And in a basketball game, you dribbling down the court, 0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:58.760 You're not gonna shot the same shot every time, you 0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:00.440 know what I mean? You got to have some kind 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.600 of you know, knowledge of where you're at and what 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:07.000 you know what the court is dictating. So my songwriting 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.520 is dictated about the court that I'm standing on. 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.240 When it comes to your songs, is it more of 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.360 a your writing songs and artists or A and R 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.720 are picking the songs, or is it also to your 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:19.320 writing songs for certain people? 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:21.840 No, I just right now, I don't write for anybody. 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.440 I have a pile. And you know, even when I 0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.239 was writing for other people, I never really wrote for them. 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:27.800 I didn't like, sit down like, okay, I need the 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.000 Beyonce song. I hate them niggas that shit. Don't that 0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.080 that shits trash. Let me write a song for Beyonce. 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.120 Want to get up on Beyonce? 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:35.560 Rat? 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:41.600 No, No, I just write vis you know what I mean? Now, 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.360 I came from that. I came from like we were 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.200 what works first. People don't know I was in. We 0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.640 were writing songs for other people. My brothers had big placements, 0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.040 they at Usher placements and like John placements back in 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.120 the day. And that's what really like sold me on 0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.800 becoming like a musician. So my first like before I 0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.760 wrote my own projects, we were working on like writing 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.200 for the people, and I was in a songwrinning camp 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.840 of six motherfuckers. So you know that taught me a 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.040 lot about who I wanted to be as a writer. 0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.000 Can you explain to me what those I always hear 0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.520 about those types of camps, especially from artists that come 0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:15.000 on this show. 0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.840 Never been a part of those camps because. 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.760 Apparently I'm doing it wrong, Like, no, you're doing it right, brother. 0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:24.800 I don't know. 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.560 But what are camps like? Because it's also like it's 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:29.680 every it's is it every man for himself? Is it 0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:32.120 like you're off of blood? Like I got to get 0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.840 a placement on this record, and it's. 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.719 Pretty it's pretty cut throat at certain points, but I mean, 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:40.560 I'm so displaced from it. I haven't been in a 0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:43.880 camp for ten years, man, so I don't know. I 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.000 don't know what they like nowadays. But when I was 0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:47.480 doing it, it was tough. 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:48.480 It was tough. 0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:50.960 So what we used to do because we all loved 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.040 each other and we wanted everyone wanted to succeed, as 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.720 we would break songs down into pieces that's not mine. 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:57.840 That's how Woodworks did it. Somebody got the first verse, 0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.360 we're writing a hook together. Somebody got I can verse, 0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:03.640 somebody get a bridge, you know what I mean? Yeah, 0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.200 that and that was I mean, that didn't always work, 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:07.920 but that was the game plan. That's how we went 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.440 into the situations. And then it would if you're going 0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.399 into a writing camp where it's like a whole bunch 0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.120 of individuals writers that are coming in, like look, okay, 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.160 let's say Tyree sets up a camp where he has 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.719 producers the writers in come. That is very cutthroat because 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.480 everyone's writing by themselves on their own little setup to 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.600 bring to play to Tyree so that he can choose 0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.279 what records he's gonna cut, you know what I mean. 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.759 And that was a different environ I can say that 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.640 the songwriters that I've come across, they're they're all very competitive, 0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.160 but you know there is a community of like I'm 0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:40.000 going to help you out. 0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:40.200 You know. 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.239 It was never so cutthroat that work wasn't getting done. 0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.799 I can only imagine that, you know, if it's coming 0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:51.000 from your insides and it's your song, it's like your child. 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.800 So I wonder, like, all right, well I got a 0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.320 first verse, you know, And I do I do believe 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:01.520 in that whole thing of how inspiration hit you that 0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:04.240 you know, you have to be in the right environment 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.000 acquired him. I mean, some people need to be in 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.920 a chaotic of environment. I know, people that feel like 0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.279 they need to be in arguments with their girlfriend or 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.239 you know, whatever whatever floats their book. But to have 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.399 the ideas come, Quincy Jones on the episode That Will 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.120 Never Come Out says that all of his ideas come 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.520 at one in the morning, that sort of thing. But 0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:27.080 I don't know, I can't imagine like, Okay, having half 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.640 a song and just in the name of time, like 0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.759 all right, well you take it over now it's your 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.720 child and we're co parents. 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.840 Like I just never understood that process. 0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:39.200 Like I always felt like, once this song comes out 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:42.200 of you, you should see it through soup the nuts. 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.880 But you know, I don't know, like do you recommend 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:50.319 writers camps or for you it's it's better when it's 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:52.480 just coming from you isolated alone. 0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:57.400 Well as an artist, I don't recommend writing camps, but 0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:01.080 I do recommend writing with other writers. Like, for example, 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.640 there's an artist in Jazzi that is she's a singer 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:08.279 songwriter and she's very popular. I brought her in to 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.600 help me write the song that I have with Ti 0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:13.480 Dallas Sign on the album. And I did it because 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.520 you know, when creating albums, I feel like you need 0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:21.760 to have different Like let's just use the word vibes. 0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.359 I hate the word, but let's you gotta you gotta 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:25.520 have different different. 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.120 This is how I know you're not twenty all right, exactly. 0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.719 You gotta have different There has to be some type 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.880 of variety, you know, to to the sound. In my opinion, 0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.399 to make a great project. You know, it's really hard 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.759 to pull off when it's just you in your head, 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.759 you know what I mean. I feel like I've I've 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:52.839 learned to let people in because people, you know, can 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:55.680 improve something for you, you know, can make something better 0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:58.480 by you know, looking at it from their perspective, you know. 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.040 And I can learn a lot still, you know, I 0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.600 definitely don't think I know everything. So having help, you 0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.120 know what I mean, to get you through your own 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.359 thoughts isn't a bad thing. It just depends on how 0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:13.520 you handle it, you know. And I think I've I've 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.840 had years of trial and era with working with other artists, 0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:17.839 so I know what I like immedia, It'll take ten 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.000 minutes for me to decide if we actually gonna do 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.279 the session, you know what I mean, Like if we're 0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.080 sitting down and you know, once I'm locked in with somebody, 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.799 it's gonna go smoothly. But it's all trial and there, 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:33.879 and I feel like I've learned for me, I need help, 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.520 and my music sounds better when I have the right 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.200 type of help. So it's not just about having a 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.359 whole bunch of songwriters people come in. It's about having 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:42.080 the right. 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:51.680 Of all the storied clicks in contemporary music. You know, 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:55.160 start with native tongues, and then start with Wu tang, 0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:59.680 and start with death row Tde to Me is well 0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.560 one one of the most ubiquitous but also on the 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.239 other side of that coin, one of the most mysterious 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:11.760 organizations that I know of but don't know jack about. 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.200 Are we all right? 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:18.359 Look when you join this organization number one, I'm gonna 0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:22.000 be impression that if you join TDE then yeah, like 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:27.239 Sizza and Isaiah and Schoolboy and Absol and Doshi and 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:32.280 like the whole clique are all family in like working 0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.480 together on each other's projects and that sort of thing. 0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:36.800 But like, what is it like? 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:41.040 Because I know nothing about about Anthony and it is. 0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.720 It is right. We were just talking about the songwriting camps. 0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:49.080 It is the songwriting camps at the highest level. So everybody, 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.920 everybody is alp for blood. We are all hungry, we 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.960 are all independent. We help each other out where we can, 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.680 but we all got careers to take care of. Now. 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.719 Mind you, we're family, you know what I mean. And 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.279 we're very tight. We're very close knit, you know what 0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:08.319 I mean. But man, TD, there's still a learning curve 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.960 for me, you know what I mean. Let's take away 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.600 the music industry like him his bloods, these game members, 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.400 you know what I mean? And yeah, from LA so 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:21.080 I gotta I gotta, I gotta first just respect that 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.279 you know what I mean, Like, at at any given time, 0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.960 she can go a sour and you know, all hell 0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.840 could break loose on this side, you know. So I 0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:32.520 just had to learn who I was dealing with and 0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:37.400 learned that. You know, respect is earned, you know what 0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:40.640 I mean, before it's given in this circle, and we 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.040 don't tolerate disrespect. We don't tolerate ignorance stuff like that. 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:47.560 Top Is like, he's hardcore man, and as hardcore as 0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:49.680 he is, he's also very gentle and very loving. He's 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.880 a father of like nine kids. He's got a lot 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.759 of children. Yeah, top is a is an interesting dude. 0:39:54.840 --> 0:40:00.640 Man's Charlie Mack. You know. But as far as the egos, 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.360 I will say this, I've never been in a place 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:08.520 where I'm that motivated to stand out in my life. 0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.719 There's so many great things happening. It just makes me 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:12.319 want to work so much harder to be the best 0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:16.120 version of myself. Sizzle's on top of the planet. Motherfucking 0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.759 do she scares me? Scares me? 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:20.480 Oh? 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:25.399 I did. Yeah, if you're not familiar, go check out. 0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:29.520 That's the Florida girl. And she she's like, yeah, you 0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:31.800 can't tell me nothing. I know music and I know 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.000 what I like. I know beyond what I like, what 0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:37.440 is proper like. I know I know when it when 0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:39.680 it hits, when it's smacks, and when when the artist 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.520 behind it knows how to make it smack. This bitch 0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:45.719 I didn't even know she was with y'all. 0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.799 I like, what, y'all that's great. 0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:51.719 Look, look I met I met doch Uh like uh, 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:54.719 I guess a couple of weeks before they announced, she 0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:56.480 was starting to TV. When they first came, she came 0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.680 in so nice and played me some records. She played 0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:04.440 me the craziest records. What's the song that she has out? 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.720 You probably won't know anyway, but she played me something 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:12.440 that I was like, I was floored. Well, lord, this 0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.919 is one of the most talented women in the game 0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:17.759 right now, and I knows, you know, scissors scissors and 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:21.239 deserves everything that's going on. But Adolcie, he could ask 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.040 about Dochie, she gonna say the same thing. I'm scared 0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:26.840 of that girl, you know. But that's the environment that 0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.640 TD creates. It creates monsters, it creates people that are 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:31.560 so hungry that you ain't don't give a fun what 0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.320 y'ad got going on. It's me, is this this is 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:36.120 PD or it's nothing else, you know what I mean? 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:37.120 And it's always gonna be that. 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.239 As an avid watcher of King of the Hill, can 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:43.799 you please explain your. 0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:45.320 Logic behind John Redcorn. 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.600 We can talk about King of the Hill all day. Okay, 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.480 let go of my person. I don't know you, okay. 0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:54.040 Oh, John Redcorn. He was the indigenous dude on in 0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:55.440 King of the Hill. Yes, that was married to the. 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:57.279 Blonde right right? 0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:04.080 Yeah, I know John Redcord was not married, motherfucker. He 0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:08.160 was the dude on the side. Dale Gribble is blind 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.759 and when he could not see what was going on, 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.640 he was dirty. Now there was a boy on the show, 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:19.759 his name was Joseph, but we all know the truth 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.400 behind that whole story. Now that now, mind you and 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:26.399 me and my wife like we we oh my gosh, 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.359 we burned King of Hill into the ground. I've watched 0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:30.680 the season finale so many times, and like I'm I'm 0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:36.080 a huge, huge fan of John Redcorn in general, just 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.120 because of the episode that I remember him on. 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:41.200 Yeah, and you know that song. 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:43.960 That song was a happy accident. Let's be honest, nobody 0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.280 expect I didn't expect that motherfucker to go as crazy 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:46.719 as it did. 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:47.279 But it did. 0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:51.080 I only asked you simply because you know, oftentimes artists, 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:54.840 especially under the umbrella hip hop, and I kind of 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:58.160 blamed ghost Face for this, where they'll just title their 0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:59.960 song anything that has nothing to do with the song. 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:01.000 Yeah. 0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:04.399 But when I saw that, I was like, nah, there's 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:09.080 something deeper behind this besides just naming it John Redcorn, 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:13.640 and especially I know the character that he is, and 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:18.960 it was curious to how you landed there, and so I. 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:22.040 Actually started with with I was like, I was watching 0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.279 King of the Hill and we were watching I was 0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:27.880 watching the episode where Joseph was like it was like 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:32.600 a Joseph John Redcord episode. Yeah, and you know he 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:36.840 left and was just and it's always crying in a 0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.680 car or something like that, and it just it made 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.520 me so sad. I was like, oh my gosh, this 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:46.000 poor guy. And the first verse came of the hook 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.160 came immediately alone every night alone, and I was like, 0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.040 this might be interesting, and I started I wrote that 0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:56.200 I actually helped produce that song. So I did drums first, 0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.840 I beat by and then I did the harmonies and 0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:01.200 recorded over the harmonies and then had somebody coming in 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.920 and play guitar, so I have musicians build around my 0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.680 I did my little three part or whatever, and we 0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.279 went from there. But you know that that was, like 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:17.239 I said, a happy accident. But it definitely helped, like 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.960 shape how I wrote songs for the next few years 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.320 because of how people responded to it. You know, it 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.200 made me a little more adventurous. It made me want 0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.879 to connect the dots before I sat down to write. 0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:29.400 I do a lot of that, like a lot of 0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.719 repping before I actually write the song in thought where 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:34.439 I you know, I listened to the music, I said, 0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.360 I'm listening to the beat, but I'm also trying to 0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.880 just figure out, you know, what would go good over 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.880 the beat and blah blah blah. But anyway, you know this, 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.680 this is like John Redcorn is my baby, man. It's 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:48.640 it's it's the gift that keeps done giving. 0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.200 I love that song, man for real. 0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:54.400 I wanted to ask you about one of your collaborators 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.759 you've been working with over the years, Dek the Punisher Man. 0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:02.040 Hey and you guys, y'all relationship in y'all's creative chemistry, 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:02.880 how did that come about? 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.480 Me and DK met through one of my favorite people 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.920 on the planet. QUI. I don't know you remember. I 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:10.680 think I met you back in the day through this guy, 0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.240 through Andre Harris, through are. 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:14.480 Yes. 0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:14.919 Yeah. 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:18.040 Yeah, dang, you've been to a playlist retreat. I met 0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:19.120 you got the Playlist retreat. 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:20.480 You've come to Jeff's thing. 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:23.200 Yeah, yeah, I've been. I was there the first three 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:27.480 years and then the drug. I mean, you know what. 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.000 The night I came to the Playlist Retreat, I got 0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:33.160 there late from the tonight show and there was a 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:36.919 taco truck outside it. And what they failed to tell 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:41.480 me was that all the tacos were infused. And I 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:45.120 at that time, I was, you know, post pandemic, I microdos, 0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:49.600 I like edibles. I'm very lightweight, and so I downed 0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:53.400 about four of those tacos because I was starving, and 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:55.120 I found out the hard way. 0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.640 Yeah, don't oh yeah, this night was interesting. Oh you 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.719 four you' all around? Yeah, the most euphoric tacos you'll 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:03.680 ever have in your life. 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:04.320 Correct. 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:09.080 But I actually met DK the Punisher in two thousand 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:13.479 and ten at Andre Harris's house. This is the first 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.640 opportunity I had to write songs as just as songwriter 0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:20.520 Nobody's engineer was given to me by Andre Harris and 0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:25.359 and DK met working under Andre Harris, and we got 0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:28.560 great placements, had some great work met. Miss Jill got 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:31.560 placements on the Woman project. You know, I did Fool's Goal. 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.920 DK produced Fools Gold for Miss Jill on her last project. 0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:35.680 Nice. 0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:39.759 But like, that's my brother at this point. That's that's 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:43.000 and you know, that's my Baltimore connect, you know, so 0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:47.719 I like me and him have a different type of 0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:49.960 relationship now outside of music. Like I'm about to call 0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.960 him right now. We're supposed to work out today, so 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.800 it's going to go link up. But that's my literal 0:46:55.040 --> 0:47:00.279 brother at this point. And musically, you know, me and 0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:02.880 him just click whenever we decide to work. It just 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:06.000 works now, y'all boys. That chemistry man, man, But the 0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.840 music industry is tough man. DK actually had to shift. 0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.200 He's a web developer now, so you know, and this 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.759 is one thing that I always recommend to, you know, 0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.759 career musicians, if it's not paying your rent, like, don't 0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.040 force that, don't be a broke musician. I don't recommend 0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.759 that for anybody. Having experienced that, go get you a 0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.120 fucking job. You're getting your job isn't going to take 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:27.960 away from your talent. It's going to make it easier 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:29.719 for you to get things done if you really think 0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:30.080 about it. 0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:30.840 You know. 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.719 So DK did that, and of course he still has 0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.399 placements on Heavy. He's still working, you know what I mean. 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.760 But I'm happy for him because his life is balanced 0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.000 out now and he can focus on being a better 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:45.480 musician because he has a career to kind of. 0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:50.440 Balance another skill, another skill. You didn't mention what was 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.200 your first placement? That's what I asked the Mirror that 0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.839 I forgot my first placement. Oh my god, a song 0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.160 called Drinks Saints Free by Warren G. 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:03.360 Oh wow, all right, I like that face. 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:06.320 That came out of nowhere. 0:48:06.320 --> 0:48:09.839 All right, Yeah, it's a peculiar. It's a peculiar. One 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:12.480 artist named Mono Maury. 0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.080 Which is yeah shouts of man. 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.600 Yeah, Eman is the one that set that session up. 0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:19.560 He called me like, girl, Hey, hey, I got a 0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:21.520 chest with Warren G. Pull up and then we pulled 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:25.279 up and uh yeah, I got I got my little 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:26.000 part off. 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:35.719 Can you talk about the LA music scene because I'm 0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:38.320 curious about the camaraderie because I heard you mention the 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.399 interviews before that. It's a lot of competition, but there's 0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:44.879 got to be camaraderie because you collaborate with Anderson, You've collaborated, 0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:46.640 uh with I'm. 0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.719 Guessing like the majority of folks out here. So, but 0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:51.880 what is the scene, Like where do y'all go to? 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.960 Like what's the club? It just doesn't feel like LA 0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.520 is like that, like Philly was. Yeah, I know, it's weird. 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.440 That ain't no, ain't no scene for me. I came 0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:06.360 to myself now l A the LA musicians like it's like, 0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:07.520 all right, so you go to you know how you 0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.560 go to LA shows and the crowd just like stares 0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:12.960 at you. Yes, yeah, that's how. That's how the LA musicians. 0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:15.640 Then feels like we don't really get along like you 0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:18.920 think we would. Nah, it ain't no camaraderie or anything 0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:22.080 like that. CD is td E. We keep to ourselves 0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:24.600 and it's everybody else outside of that circuit. 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:29.640 Tie td though, right tis not a TDH Yeah no, 0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:33.360 no no, But that's like TYE is time. 0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:35.800 It's hard to get to the only reason I like 0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:37.839 have these connections because I'm me and I don't say 0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.279 that like as a musician, like the type of person 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.800 I am. You know, once you meet me and you 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:44.200 shake my hand and you start to talk to you 0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:47.960 understand that I have no ill intention. I really respect 0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.520 the art and the game, and I think that goes 0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:52.480 a long way with a lot of artists like Anderson. 0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:54.480 I was a fan of hands and I met him 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.440 when he was still Breezy love Joy and you know 0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.440 he was I forgot the project. It had a song 0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:01.879 on their I was like, take me to the Star 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:06.759 Gay and Black be in the space, this beautiful song. 0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:10.480 And I met him and FANBOYD and like was genuine 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:12.600 about it, Like, wasn't you know I didn't want to 0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:14.960 like act all hard. I was like, yo, I love 0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:17.319 your shit, man, Oh my gosh it. Me and him 0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:19.800 have been friends ever since because I was genuine and 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.680 like when I meet people like ty and and you know, 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:26.239 I was always genuine. So I feel like they see 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.640 me come back around with my own stuff and they 0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.200 want to help, they want to work because of the 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:31.839 type of person I am. And that's the thing. It's 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:34.000 always a people thing for me, you know what I mean. 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:35.920 I don't care where you're from, what you do. Long's 0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:37.840 you go good people, you know, and I'm here to 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:38.320 support that. 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:39.680 You see that in a circle back. 0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:41.680 Even when you mentioned Jill and how you had met 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.399 her as an engineer and then y'all ended up collaborating 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.120 on your album, I was like, well that speaks volumes. 0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:49.680 Yeah for sure, for sure, And I mean, shout out 0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:53.200 to miss Jill Man. She's still very instrumental. Like when 0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:54.640 I was going through all of my drug youth, she 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.879 was calling me and like, didn't nobody call me, didn't 0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:00.560 nobody check in on me? Yeah, she called me the 0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.320 other day just about my mother, just to check in 0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:04.960 and by my album. She called me to let me 0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:07.719 know she heard my shit and like she loved it, 0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:09.560 you know what I mean. And that shout out to 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:11.879 miss Jail Yeah, I mean, you guys know it's Jilly 0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:16.200 and shout out to Philly. Let's let's start there. Let 0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:19.759 me go back, shout out to Philadelphia. Okay, all of 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.200 my music connects or all of the things that are 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:25.160 all of the people that have really like put on 0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.799 for me are from Philly, you know what I mean. 0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:30.640 And I mean, you guys, I don't know what's in 0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:34.560 the water, but like the talent even now, the talent 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:38.000 pool is phenomenal, you know what I mean, And I'm 0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.239 glad to be a part of that community. I'm glad 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.560 to say that I'm somewhat a part of that community 0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:43.480 of people. You know. 0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:46.000 Well, thank you, brother, I appreciate that. 0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:51.480 Before we close, I gotta ask, can you tell me? 0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:56.440 And I'm asking more personally, like, what was the process 0:51:57.680 --> 0:51:59.640 the steps to your your health journey? 0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:00.360 Now out. 0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:03.680 You know a lot of prayer, a lot of prayer. 0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.000 And when I mean health journey, I'm actually mean your 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:09.480 physical health journey, because oh oh. 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:15.520 I tell you a lot of prayer. I still right, Well, 0:52:15.600 --> 0:52:18.680 now you know, all right, so I'm a foodie. I 0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:21.000 love to eat. And during all of this, you know, 0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:24.160 the pandemic and stuff, all we had was postmates sitting 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:25.880 at the house. I got up to about two hundred 0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:31.880 and fifty pounds. But yeah, yes, look, and you know 0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:35.279 even now, I'm I'm just shocked to see where I got. 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:37.759 To honestly answer your question, I don't know how all 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:38.320 this happened. 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:40.360 I just I was. 0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:45.560 I was just standing on a wing in the prayer man, no, no, no. 0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:50.319 I started I started by asking questions, what did I want? 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:51.480 You know what I mean, who do I want to 0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:53.200 be what do I want to look like? And I 0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.520 came up with a goal to get down to two 0:52:55.600 --> 0:53:00.080 hundred pounds. And after I lost a few pounds, I 0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:02.399 got to this point where I wasn't losing any more weight. 0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:04.800 So I got a nutritionist because I felt like my 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:08.120 eating was the biggest thing. So my nutrition is this 0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.200 the real reason? And I'm in shape. I'm in now. 0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:12.000 You taught me how to spread my meals out. He 0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:15.120 taught me how, you know, eat the right amount of protein, 0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:16.960 make sure I get the right kind of carbs in. 0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:19.280 So my diet did everything. 0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:22.719 You know, sugar, what you're doing with? 0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:25.319 No bread, no sugar, no salt, no life, no love, 0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:27.239 no hoogs, no happiness. 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:34.040 With you Right now, man, I'm drinking my salads. 0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:39.320 That's right, That's right, these damn seaweed chips. On a 0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:42.839 personal note, if y'all ever need information on the I'm 0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:44.600 a wealth of knowledge when it comes to like healthy 0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:48.000 and yeah, like that, you know, because it's important especially 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:49.560 for us. It's black folk, you know what I mean. 0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:51.640 We have our issues and we need to pass knowledge 0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:53.960 around so that we can all, you know, thrive and 0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:57.120 be healthy. So feel like you need some information, man, 0:53:57.200 --> 0:53:59.399 feel free to reach out broad Got you so, sir. 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.279 You want to functional mushrooms? You want to. 0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.719 No mushrooms, That's that's part of my I can't do mushrooms. No, No, 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:07.799 not rooms, sir. 0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:08.680 I'm talking about. 0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:11.280 I do the badrooms. 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:15.960 Yeah, not a I'm talking about the other one, the 0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:18.120 coffee rooms here mutual. 0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:21.680 Okay, you did say that you did that, like matter 0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:22.680 of fact, I'm right now. 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:23.640 We have some in the kitchen. 0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:30.440 Yeah. Multi vitamin for sure. I definitely like try to 0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:33.160 stay as healthy as possible. But I mean I feel 0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:36.600 like people that need multivitamins are eating like ship. You 0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:38.320 know what I mean. Eat healthy? You need to do 0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:39.160 all the extra ship. 0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:39.800 Just just do. 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:42.239 Put some greens in your body. This is one. Here's 0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.600 the note of the day. If you're gonna eat like crap, 0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.800 put something green on your stomach first, because there's something 0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.879 inside of you know, in the fiber or so. There's 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:52.680 a chemical that gets put in your stomach and it 0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:55.480 lines your stomach and helps you digest your food better 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:57.640 if you eat green before you eat anything else. So 0:54:57.760 --> 0:54:59.799 just eat a little salad before you eat anything else. 0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:00.799 That'll help out. 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:02.719 Yes, Sally, you're not like a. 0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:06.440 If you if you blending if Yeah, the juice works. 0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:09.200 I'm not a salad fan at all, so all my juice, 0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:10.640 you are salads. 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:14.200 So smart man, smart man, and it works just as well. 0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:16.480 Can I ask Fat Sir one question I did? I'd 0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:18.200 like to ask Fat Sir old faster. 0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:21.719 Can you tell me though, in Inglewood three of your 0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:23.880 favorite places to eat? Because I just would like to 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:25.880 know there right now, Inglewood Service? 0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:30.360 All right, all right, if you just want to like 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:34.000 small little breakfast spot, emma is and it's a hole 0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:37.759 in the wall. This is our bodegga. Okay. So now 0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:41.239 Emma's is on Market in Manchester. She right across the 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:43.879 street from the swat. Mean, she's just a little hole 0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:45.680 in the wall. But you go in there. You just 0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:47.759 get you a breakfast burrito. Emma to take care of it. 0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:50.319 I'm a breakfast burrito theme, so thank you. I'm always 0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:50.759 on the chase. 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:52.960 Okay, all right, So now and you tell it. You 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:55.319 tell her that Daniel sent you. Don't tell it Daryl sent. 0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:01.400 Extra g A. 0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:09.279 Yeah, uh Doulans really you don't like see you have me? No, 0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:13.719 you just disrespected I thought it was commercial. I didn't 0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:16.320 know if it was, Dolens is all we got. No, 0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:18.799 I'm not gonna say it's the best, so who out 0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:21.879 here because they be lying, But Dolings is what we got. 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.120 So go get you somebode. Go get you from the sun, 0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:27.880 some some smother chicken from Duelings. You'll be all right. 0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:29.560 Now, give me a healthy spot, give me one of 0:56:29.600 --> 0:56:33.120 the last spot and simply host them. Oh well, yeah, 0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:34.040 that's I live down the street. 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:36.080 Okay, perfect, Ye, that's not that's not Inglewood, but that's 0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:37.759 that's where we go. That's where we go. 0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:41.600 Y'all know my two cents anymore, that's spout. 0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:45.359 That's not my spot. No, no, no, no, that's out 0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:46.680 of towns Inglewood spot. 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:47.919 I support my two cents. 0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:51.880 Ain't nothing wrong with that shot off to Dustin Felder, 0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:55.919 but simply holdsome it's historic in in uh of course 0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:56.640 South l A. 0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:58.239 And the ownership so got it? 0:56:58.640 --> 0:56:59.640 Got it? Well? 0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:03.680 Thanks sir, I thank you for taking time out to 0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:09.640 speak to us. Also, godspeed on on your good energy 0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:13.040 to her. But more than that, I really appreciate just 0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:18.120 you and applaud your ability to not only share your life, 0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:20.640 not only for your music, but in your personal story, 0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:24.320 your recovery and just your your daily walk, and it's 0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:28.520 it's needed. And especially the air quote tumultuous times that 0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:32.240 we're in when you're watching a lot of the old 0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:36.200 guard get dealt with and you're seeing the new guard 0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:41.880 come into play, you know this is overdue and needed. 0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:44.960 And I applaud you and thank you for coming on 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:47.120 and of course love to Supreme to share your story 0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:48.560 with us. Man, Thank you, Man. 0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:51.640 I really appreciate you guys inviting me Man, and and 0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:53.800 just to say, I'm a huge fan, Bro, I have 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:56.439 been for years and years and years. Thank gonna gash 0:57:56.480 --> 0:57:58.120 you too much, man, but you you. 0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:01.080 I look up to you, man, and thank you brother. 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:03.080 It's a pleasure to talk to you. 0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:06.080 Thank you, Thank you for having man that the album 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:09.240 is dope. But the song like that's my favorite record 0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:12.240 on the album. That's just a beautiful song, Man, really 0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:15.040 really vulnerable, and just the vocal performance on it is 0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:16.000 just really beautiful. 0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:16.160 Man. 0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:18.480 So thank you, thank you, thank you for saying that. Bro. 0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:21.560 I really appreciate that this this album is a laborer love, 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:24.840 and you know, I'm just excited to start getting out 0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:26.800 here and performing these songs and getting through this. 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:28.720 It's gonna be tough. 0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:31.520 It's not gonna be tough. 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:35.040 Well, this this album is it's take one step at 0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:38.600 a time. Nah man. Just look, it was uncomfortable, go 0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:40.960 with it. If it's out of your comfort zone, go 0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:41.320 with it. 0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:44.120 I've learned not to hold back on my emotions. If 0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.160 I got to cry on stage, I'm gona let it out. 0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:47.600 But we're gonna get through it, for sure. 0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:50.120 That's important. I applaud that ship. 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.800 All right, we have a farticular Sugar Steve, get your 0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:56.840 network back, bro. We thank you all are here and 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:07.360 I'm changing shout the cousin. Jake and Brittany, thank you, 0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:13.160 and Sir big upt We'll see you next week. Quest 0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:17.959 Love Supreme all right, yes, sir, thank you for listening 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:20.600 to Quest Love Supreme. This podcast is hosted by Mere 0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:25.360 Quest Love, Thompson, Liya Saint Clair, Fante Coleman, Sugar, Steve Mandell, 0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:28.800 and myself. I'm pay Bill Sherman. The executive producers are 0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:32.479 mer who just walked into the goddamn room, Thompson, Sean Jean, 0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:36.000 and Brian Calhoun. 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