1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Ladies and gentlemen, 2 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme. I'm here 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: with the almighty Team Supreme. I assume that brand new 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Bill is on the streets right now. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: We're here in the water, okay. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: Now here on vacation with the girls. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 4: He's on vacation. Where Bill vacations? 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 5: Where's these vacations? 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: They didn't on a boat somewhere? 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Damn? 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 6: Okay, you would say I'm with a bunch of all 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 6: the girls though, so you know, it's kind of vacation. 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: That's what quality time. Let's let's what's up? We got 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: fon Tigelow. You're in North Carolina, I. 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Assume, yeah, yeah, man, what. 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: Is that artwork that's on the left side, your left side? 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: I always wonder that when you're interviewing from this place. 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 7: What is that we did? An artist did that illustration 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 7: for us? It was like a card. Okay, let's warn 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 7: me on top of about like a like a plane card. 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 7: And yes, I just framed up put in my studio. 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 4: Okay, that's what's up? Like, Yeah, how a y'all doing? 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: We are good. I'm sorry y'all all forgiving you all this. 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 6: I'm after looking at Sara's album cover, I realized I 25 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 6: need to put my workout clothes on every day, and like, 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 6: I'm a workout So that's what I'm going to do 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 6: after this. 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: Is inspirational. 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,919 Speaker 1: Physic together, in your post pandemic physical together. 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: We all hear you loud and clear. 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 5: Bro. 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: You know summer's coming up, you know, giving my Sarah 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: on Steve, how's it going? 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 8: Good morning everybody. Yeah, how's the network doing? I'm not 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 8: sure if it exists anymore? 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: No more network? 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't know. 38 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 8: There was some tumultuous season seven. Now we're in season eight. 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 8: I'm not really sure he's in charge, and you know 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 8: we're moving forward. 41 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: Damn, you got m needed out of your own network. 42 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: Kind of. 43 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Damn, Steve, It's okay, we got to do a network episode. 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 8: I still got my quest of Supreme family though. 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: So basically I will say that this particular episode, this 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: is one of those practice what you preach moments, because 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: I think around October of last year, I kind of 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: put a note out to the producers of the show 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Layah cousin Jake Brittany that you know, I didn't want 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: to get too comfortable, Like when you get way too 52 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: comfortable in your comfort zone, that could be too an 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: easy downfall. And I was noticing another podcast that sort 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: of stayed in their. 55 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 4: Comfort zone and they had a really great. 56 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: Run, and now they're kind of running out of ideas 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: because they're not pivoting and getting out of that comfort 58 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: place they like. And of course, when you're coming to 59 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Quest of Supreme, nine times out of ten, we're talking 60 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: to veterans that have put like, you know, twenty thirty, 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: forty fifty years the game, and you know, it's always 62 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: fun and very easy to go back and and sort 63 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: of marvel on someone's legacy. I gave a note that 64 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: I really, especially after the Dave Matthews episode, that I 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to newer artists, younger artists that maybe 66 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't that familiar with, like the back of my hand. 67 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like us doing a Narti Michael 68 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Walden episode, or us doing a Quincy Jones episode, or 69 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, something of that level. 70 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 4: And so wait, we did a Quincy Jones episode, Steve. 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 5: I'll talk about it. 72 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: We did a Quincy Jones episode, believe it or not. 73 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: Actually, you can tell us about it. 74 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: Yes, we've done a Quincy Jones episode. So anyway, that said, 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: I kind of said, start in twenty twenty four. I 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: want to switch it up a little bit and start 77 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: connecting with tomorrow's legends. You know, people kind of ten 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: years maybe fifteen years in the game, younger than your 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: thirty your forty year old veterans that will be tomorrow's legends. 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: I think it's rather apropos that our guest today is 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: sort of running on an ongoing theme that we've been 82 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: having with a lot of ours that we've been speaking 83 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: to in that what their lives were before the pandemic 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: has sort of pivoted and moved into another direction. And 85 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: basically this artist, of course has Brandy recognition. He has 86 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: a new album entitled Heavy, sort of making the rounds 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: as we speak, getting a lot of accolades, and along 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: with his collaborations and his previous records, I'm kind of 89 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: liking this new place that artists are in right now 90 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: in terms of. 91 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: Putting their heart out there and. 92 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: Showing their vulnerability and showing their journey, which is needed. 93 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: So pretty much the ongoing theme to me is rather 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: apropos and our guest is no exception to it. Please welcome. 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: Two question of supreme sir. 96 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 5: What are you doing? 97 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: Where are you talking to us? 98 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 5: From this morning eighty fourth? I'm over here in Inglewood, man. 99 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 5: You're still in Inglewood? 100 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: Yay? 101 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 5: Course of course, of course, yeah, I can't leave. 102 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: Man. 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 5: It's the neighborhood actually got better since they did the 104 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 5: stadium and they're working on Clippers stadium over here. If 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 5: you know anything about the city, has been a lot 106 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 5: of changes over here. 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: This gentrification thing is real over here. 108 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 5: It's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing 109 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 5: for somebody that still lives in the city. People that 110 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 5: held onto their houses and didn't sell and move and 111 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 5: stuff like that. They're up right now. The house, I 112 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 5: mean it is up right now. So I know everybody 113 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: around me is happy. 114 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: There's something special about LA people. 115 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 6: They really hold on to their homes in South I 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 6: live in lamert So I'm just saying, get these people 117 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 6: hold on to their. 118 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 5: Homes for sure, if they know any better, because the 119 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 5: property value is just going to keep going up. The 120 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 5: center city of Los Angeles, including like Inglewood and copp In. 121 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 5: The inner city is flourishing. You know what, I mean, 122 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 5: and the people that owned homes have been there thirty 123 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 5: forty years. So my neighborhood is the same people I 124 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 5: run into, the same people I grew up with. They 125 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 5: still live in their mama house. 126 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 6: And thanks, I'm Merre's funny because the landlords around here 127 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 6: are old and black too, so they just is discriminatory. 128 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 6: So when I got my place, he definitely looked me 129 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 6: up and down like, okay, you fit, Like. 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's weird. 131 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: I went back to my old neighborhood, my old house 132 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: that you remember, Laya in South Philly, Saint Albans. Yeah, 133 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: sad to say that I'm the last owner of pretty 134 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: much of that block, and sad to say I'm the 135 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: last black owner, Like it was a black neighborhood. 136 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: When I moved in, and now I didn't recognize that shit. 137 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I felt like Marty McFly walking through nineteen fifty, like 138 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: we got Starbucks on the corner, Like that's hilarious. 139 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 140 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 6: Because for reference, sir, you should know that, like Philadelphia 141 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 6: is probably in stage eight A, gentrification is a one 142 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 6: to ten. I always say, like DC and Harlem are 143 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 6: in stage fifteen past ten, but LA is probably in a. 144 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: Five or six. So I know you're saying what you're saying, Yeah, 145 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: I do. 146 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 6: Y'all just got there. You just got the stadium. We 147 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 6: just get in the train stations. It's no, they're jogging. 148 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 6: They're jogging. 149 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: They're jogging. 150 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: Wait, so you're saying to me, because the thing was, 151 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: I went to that stadium on not opening night, but 152 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: like opening month. Now, the stadium beautiful. Where I park though, Dad. 153 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 5: You park at the Forum, probably trying to get you over. 154 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 4: To so far dog. You know, that was a couple 155 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: of years ago. I hope it's gotten better. 156 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: So you know, it was, it happened. 157 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: It was a little weird. 158 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 5: No, No, it's still a hectic now, mind you. I'm 159 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 5: not I'm not a I'm not a football fan, so 160 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: I don't care about the stadium. It's not my thing, 161 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But it's just it's done 162 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 5: a lot for the city, you know what I mean. 163 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 5: And having met the mayor and talked to him about 164 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: it then and seen you know, all of the businesses 165 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 5: that have come up, and you know it kind of 166 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: it makes you look at it differently. 167 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: You know. 168 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 5: I definitely was thinking about protecting, you know, the people 169 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 5: that were getting displaced because people got displaced. You know, 170 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 5: we ain't gonna talk about that, but you know they 171 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 5: tore down homes and stuff like that to move things 172 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 5: in for the Clippers stadium, and you know that was 173 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 5: a big thing. But once you start to see the benefit, 174 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 5: you kind of look at it like this can work, 175 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 5: you know. But it's all about the community coming together. 176 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 5: And I from from my perspective, I don't think Inglewood 177 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 5: ever being completely gentrified, you know what I mean. I 178 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 5: see it as it might end up being a melting pot, 179 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 5: which it already kind of is. There's a huge Asian 180 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 5: community out here, there's a huge community of someones. There's 181 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 5: a huge you know, Mexican community as well as all 182 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 5: the black folks out here. So you know what I mean, 183 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 5: you're gonna have to kick out a whole bunch of 184 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: different people before you get to straight up just gentrification, 185 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 5: you know. And I don't think I don't think we're 186 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: on that route. 187 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,479 Speaker 4: I dig it. There were you born in Inglewood. 188 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: Inglewood Adjacment. We're Los Angeles baby, So me and my 189 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 5: family were all born in like South Central, but my 190 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: dad was born in Inglewood and the house that we 191 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 5: grew up in My grandmother bought in nineteen sixty four, 192 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 5: so we had been in the city my whole life. 193 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 5: But no, I was born at uh she I think 194 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 5: I was born a Killer King. I know my mom was. 195 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 3: Okay, Killer King? 196 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 5: Is that what you said? Killer King? Is the hospital 197 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 5: in la is famous? 198 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: What is it known? 199 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: For people that aren't? 200 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 5: It's in the hood. So when you get shot, they 201 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 5: take you to Killer King and nobody survives at Killer King. 202 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: Like Brady, you were going to say that, Okay, every. 203 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 5: City to Killer King. You're telling them take me anywhere. 204 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 4: But in Philadelphia that would be Misser Cordia Hospital. I 205 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: get it. 206 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: I got you that. 207 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 5: That make sense. 208 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: We called it miserable Codia Cordia. 209 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 6: Yeah. 210 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: I'll ask you what I ask all of our guests. 211 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember what your first musical memory was in life? 212 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 5: Great question? Okay? Now, which had a piano roll on me? 213 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 5: Because I don't have perfect pitch. But let's just give 214 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 5: an example. My mother will be at the piano and 215 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 5: she'd be like, this is see. If you have your 216 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 5: fingers here, you're hitting the note. If you go down here, 217 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 5: you are flat. 218 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: If you go up beast, you are strong. 219 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 5: See you know what I mean. That's my first musical 220 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: memory is my mother teaching us how to sing, or 221 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 5: trying to teach us how to sing. And my first 222 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 5: musical performance, I was five years old in front of 223 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 5: the church and we sang Oh Holy Night, and so 224 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 5: I you know, I grew up. I grew up in 225 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 5: a house where music was everything. You know, I don't 226 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 5: remember my life when I don't remember a time of 227 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 5: my life where somebody wasn't creating or somebody wasn't performing. 228 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 5: And you know, I'm blessed to be in a musical family. 229 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 7: Your mom, she was a singer and already she sang 230 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 7: for Steve not Stevie Shaka and Michael Jackson that she 231 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 7: did backs. 232 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 5: For them, yep, yep, yeah man, Miss Jackie, Miss Jackie, yep. 233 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 5: And prayers up for my mom. Man. She was in 234 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 5: a car accident a couple of days ago. So she's 235 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 5: she's got surgery today at twelve, and we're just fearful. Man. 236 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 5: She fractured her second vertebrae and it's been you know, 237 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 5: his last couple of days has been really tough on us. 238 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 5: But she's doing good. She's in good spirits, but she's. 239 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, resu, how long was she singing? 240 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: She grew up in a church too. Her her grandfather 241 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: was a pastor, mother's singer in the church, you know 242 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 5: what I mean. Her and her brothers were raised in church. 243 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 5: So my mom doesn't know anything about music. She started 244 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 5: playing piano when she was six years old, and my 245 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 5: uncle Andrew started playing bass when he was seventeen and 246 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 5: never looked backing. Yeah, you guys know Andrew Gruchet. If 247 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 5: you know anything about gospel music, yea better know Andrew 248 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 5: Grouchet God, yes, yes, yeah, the Godfather of base you know. 249 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 5: And my mother was blessed to have a brother like Andrew. 250 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 5: I can say their dynamic kind of creates the dynamic 251 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 5: that you see between me and my brother the Smoke 252 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 5: and my brother Deveond. They help each other when they can, 253 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 5: but they're individuals and they're very powerful on their own. So, 254 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 5: you know, it was it was always the you know, 255 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 5: just the joy to watch my mother work, you know, 256 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 5: being the miniSTR of music at church. You know, she 257 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 5: was out there every Sunday. Well, let's let's be honest. 258 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 5: She was there Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, you know choir, Yeah, 259 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: Bible study choir, rehearsal, Friday service, Sunday service, you know 260 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: what I mean. My mom was a workforce, you know, 261 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 5: and still to this day. We was with her yesterday 262 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 5: and the only thing she was worried about, you know, 263 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 5: when they're talking about surgery, she's like, can I play 264 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 5: the piano? That's you know what I mean, Like, I 265 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 5: don't care about nothing else. I need to play the piano, 266 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So that's the type of 267 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 5: mother I had. 268 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 4: Well, were you Seventh Day of ventist. 269 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 5: Or oh no, we're non denomination okay, oh damn, okay, Okay, 270 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 5: it was just real. 271 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: Christians that did the thing. Like you know, it's just 272 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: different church days. 273 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: Well often when I hear every day usually it's seven 274 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Day of Venice. But and it's weird, not denomination when 275 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: people always thought with more lenient, not too super strict 276 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: on things that are normally you know the law, right right? Okay, 277 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: So non denominational. Do you remember like your first creative project, 278 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: Like what was the first thing that you remember doing 279 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: creatively or what was singing in that church? Your first Okay? 280 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 5: So when I was younger, my mom bade us do music, 281 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 5: and as a kid, I didn't appreciate it. I didn't 282 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 5: understand it. I shunned away from it, and I didn't 283 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 5: I didn't like it. So when I was about fourteen fifteen, 284 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: we sat down and had a conversation about what I wanted, 285 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 5: and I was like, I want to play sports. So 286 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: I stopped doing music. Didn't do music ten years. I 287 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 5: didn't even come into the game until I was like 288 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty four. My brothers were writing twenty four 289 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 5: something like that. Yeah, twenty four, twenty five, something like that. Yeah. 290 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 5: I didn't write my first song until I was twenty six. 291 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: Wo Yeah, you know what I man, how old are 292 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: you right now? 293 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 5: Thirty seven? 294 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: I gotta know a beer? 295 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, I think when you're my age fifty three? Hello, 296 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: but everyone to me is just nineteen. Yeah, we got 297 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: to work on that. 298 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: You thought you just talking to a kid. Man. 299 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: I got. 300 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: This young kid. Let me hear me, let me. 301 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: Some things. 302 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: My knowledge on this young boy. 303 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: Man. 304 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: Hey, So it just it just the hands up, you know. 305 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: I started off my because I'm I'm the type of 306 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 5: person I am. My thing is knowledge. When when I 307 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 5: like something, I got to know how to do it right, 308 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? So I went to school. 309 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 5: I went to Los Angeles School. I was my first 310 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 5: step when I when I started writing songs, I was like, oh, 311 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 5: I stuck, let me figure out what's going on. I 312 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 5: was terrible at it, you know what I mean, And 313 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 5: my my brother was kind enough to show me that 314 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 5: there was potential behind it. But I was like, naw, 315 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 5: this don't sound like what these niggas are doing. So 316 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 5: I went to the LA Film School to two years 317 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 5: of my life and really focused in on trying to 318 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 5: just become a better musician and engineer. So I'm a 319 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 5: recording engineer by trade. That was my first, you know thing, 320 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 5: and from there I started to just develop my sound 321 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 5: and my songwriting and stuff like that. And this is 322 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 5: all while I was just working as an engineer. My 323 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 5: first big gig was working for Tyrese, which, yeah, that 324 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 5: was interesting. 325 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that faith and That's love Supreme Office 326 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: next week. 327 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: Shout up to Tyrese. Taught me a lot about people, 328 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 5: taught me a lot about the music industry, taught me 329 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: a lot about independence and how much I wanted it 330 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 5: at the time, Like I'm showing up the sessions. I'm his, 331 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 5: you know, head engineer. In the house. I got six 332 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: people working for me, you know, and I'm just watching 333 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 5: all these other songwriters come in and try to bless him. Wow. 334 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 5: At the time, I was writing songs and I had 335 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 5: found a little confidence. But I wouldn't have said that 336 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 5: because it was my job, my day job, So I 337 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 5: wasn't even trying to like get in get in the mix. 338 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 5: But I played a couple of records for one of 339 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: the other songwriters one day and they were like looking 340 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: at me crazy, you know what I mean. We were 341 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 5: at a camp for his last project called the Black 342 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 5: Rolls Album. Yeah, Yeah, and my brother Davion was one 343 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 5: of the songwriters. I got him in to write songs 344 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 5: for Tyrese, and he just wasn't having it. He was like, 345 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 5: fuck that, you know what I mean, You're gonna play 346 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: some of these folkus fucking songs for Tyrese. So they 347 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 5: had this big meeting where everybody would sit down at 348 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 5: the end of the week and play two three records 349 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: or something like that. And I had like a batch 350 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: of like five ready, and I was the last person 351 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 5: to play records. Everybody played records as like Darrel got records. 352 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 5: I come in, I play my songs and everybody lost 353 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 5: their shit. It was like a big This was probably 354 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 5: the biggest music moment for me at today at the time. 355 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: But Tyrese runs up gives me a big hug. I 356 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 5: didn't know, Oh my god, I didn't know. I had 357 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: to tell him underneath my wing. 358 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: You know. 359 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 5: I just you know, you know what I mean, and 360 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 5: like a two weeks yeah, you know, just there's so 361 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 5: much going on. Man, God is moving in this room. 362 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 2: People. 363 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: Hey, look, look, can't nobody do Tyree's like me. 364 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what did you make Black Role? 365 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 5: Did you get on the record? 366 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 367 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a couple of songs on it. I 368 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 5: can't tell you the names of him because I forgot 369 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 5: I don't remember, but I definitely made the project for sure. 370 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 5: But you know, having that big moment, and this is 371 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 5: a lesson for a lot of musicians. Just because people 372 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 5: look like they're fucking with you or they look like 373 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 5: they rock, and don't mean they got your best interests 374 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 5: at heart, you know what I mean. Even after that incident, 375 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 5: you know, I kept working for Tyreese. He just our 376 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: relationship didn't like progress. It seemed like he was trying 377 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 5: to like he's trying to stand back me. 378 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 6: Man. 379 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 5: He wasn't trying to let me shine. He wasn't trying 380 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 5: to put me out there to where he wanted me 381 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 5: to be his engineer. And there was a day where 382 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 5: Jennifer hood And came to the house. I don't know 383 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 5: if she remembers this, but you know, she came in 384 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: to meet him, and I let her in the house. 385 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 5: You know, I'm like, hey, she you know, anothers nary, nonchalant, 386 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 5: and he, you know, was introducing her to everybody in 387 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 5: the house and just didn't even say my first name. Bro. 388 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 5: Like it was that this one man. I don't know 389 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 5: if Tyrese knows this story, he remembers this, but he 390 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 5: couldn't say my name to Jennifer us and Jennifer Usson 391 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 5: didn't look me in the eye. And I took that 392 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 5: very personally. I quit that day. I walked in the room. 393 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 5: It was like ten niggas in that room, writers, producers, 394 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 5: Jenniferussis didn't right there. Eric Bellinger was there. I forget 395 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 5: who else was there, but oh ty dollad Time was there, 396 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 5: I think. But I walked in there, I was like, hey, Tyrese, Hey, hey, 397 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 5: pay me for the day, bro, I quit in front 398 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 5: of everybody, was like, what what what do you mean? Him? Hey, hey, 399 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: hold him on, y'all, hold him on, y'all. Let me 400 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 5: go out at him and talk to me outside. And 401 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 5: there was no convincing me of that. And I think 402 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 5: after that, I probably was signed to TDE like after 403 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 5: like six months or something like that, or I you know, 404 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 5: I was already like popping. I put my own project out. 405 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 5: Wouldn't was the first thing we dropped into Seven Sundays 406 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 5: And it was over after that, and I've never looked back, 407 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And I think tyre for 408 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 5: that experience because it taught me a lot about how 409 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 5: to treat people, you know, first or four months. 410 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 7: I want to ask you about your first about Seven 411 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 7: Sundays and the label you put that out on Fresh Selects. 412 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: Talk about just that period in your life. 413 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 5: Man. 414 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: I love that record. I played it, you know all 415 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: the time. Uh No, man, just I just wanted to 416 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: talk talk about that time in your life. 417 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 6: Man. 418 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: I was I was broken, homeless. I just put tyree 419 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 5: and I didn't know what I was gonna do with 420 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: my life, you know. I was trying to figure things out. 421 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: And we had just put out this this tape that 422 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 5: had like twenty one songs. What it's called Wooden Voodoo 423 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 5: is it's my first tape. If anybody really looks for it, 424 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 5: it's like fault Wooden Voodoo. 425 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: It's got some stuff on there. 426 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 5: But Kenny heard it. Kenny Fresh from Fresh Selects heard it, 427 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: and he contacted me and was like, I want to 428 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 5: put this project out. I was like, okay, I'm already 429 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 5: working on something, and we started to playlist for seven 430 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 5: Sundays and seven Sundays is what introduced me to Top 431 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 5: and got me in the room with Tde. So I 432 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 5: look at that time as like this that was probably 433 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 5: like the highlight of my career because it opened so 434 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 5: many doors for me. And I did that all by myself. 435 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 5: It was just me and Kenny, and he really didn't 436 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 5: even do anything. He just suggested, like I like this song. 437 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: I like that song. 438 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 5: I did the master, I cut the vocal, you know 439 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 5: what I mean? And yes, I said, I did the 440 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 5: master myself. Like I was engineering back then. I don't 441 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: do that shit no more. I got I got helped. 442 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: But wait, even now, as as an artist, you I mean, 443 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: you're an engineer, so you would know how you want 444 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: the song to sound. 445 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, oh yeah, I mean I still cut my 446 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 5: own vocal. I can't let go of those rings. Like 447 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 5: I've tried. I've hired engineers, I've sat down. But imagine 448 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 5: that you're in the booth, guys in the chair and 449 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 5: you cut a vocal, but you just want him to 450 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 5: nudge it. You have to say, I need you to 451 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 5: nudge this to the left. Now imagine I'm sitting in 452 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 5: the here, I cut the vocal. I need to nudge it. 453 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 2: I can nudge it, right. 454 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: I nudged it. You know what I mean. 455 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: And that's it. 456 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 8: That's the whole thing. Steve, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No. 457 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 8: A mirror is much more for people who don't realize. 458 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 8: He's much more of an engineer than people know. He 459 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 8: mixes more than I do most of the time. I 460 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 8: mean I'm recording because he's you know, playing and producing 461 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 8: a lot of times. But when it comes time to 462 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 8: do rough mixes and certainly in the final mix stage, 463 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 8: Amir has got his hands on the dials since I 464 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 8: met him, since Electrical Lady in ninety six, he's been 465 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 8: He gets gets right on the board. It's easier and 466 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 8: quicker than to try and explain what you want if 467 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 8: you just know the basics, you know, and and a 468 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 8: mir loves plugins, so he just loves playing around with 469 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 8: toys essentially. But yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot. 470 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 8: I mean, D'Angelo was recording his own vocals, Yeah. 471 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: Things like that. 472 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 8: But yeah, it's certainly helpful to as an artist to 473 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 8: know how to engineer it. 474 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: I would think from a singing standpoint, which is such 475 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: a vulnerable thing to do. Are you the type of 476 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: singer that needs pretty much your space? Like, are you 477 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: the singer that can turn it on if five people 478 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: were in the room watching you, the engineer. 479 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: Your boys, your. 480 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Family and there watching you, or is it like everyone 481 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: get out the room engineer too. 482 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: I could do this myself. 483 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: No, no, no, I don't care who's watching you watch 484 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 5: especially with this album. Yeah, oh yeah, oh well this 485 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 5: album was different. I was high most of the time, 486 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 5: so that wasn't nobody around. 487 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 4: Okay, no, no, you can stay in the room. 488 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 5: I don't I don't mind people being around. Just shut 489 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 5: the fuck up. I got to cut the vocals. Be quiet. 490 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 5: I don't want to hear you on my track. But 491 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 5: you know, nah, these last few years. I honestly don't 492 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 5: know how these songs came. I can't explain it. I 493 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 5: don't even remember most of these sessions. I don't remember 494 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 5: a lot because I was just slated. You know a 495 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 5: lot of people have heard the story of a million 496 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 5: times about me going to. 497 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: Rehab and all that blah blah blah. 498 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 5: You know, I beat that story into the ground. So 499 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 5: if we can just swim by this real quick, I'm sober. 500 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 5: It's been a year and five months, you know what 501 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 5: I mean. I found so bride. I found sobriety my way, 502 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I still smoke a little weed. Everyone. 503 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 5: I'm going to ask you, I. 504 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: Thank you for saying this. Thank you because yeah, you 505 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: want to say space. 506 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: No sobriety. Sobriety is different for everybody, you know what 507 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 5: I mean, everybody has. If you're an addict like I was, 508 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 5: you have a DC now your doc. Your drug of 509 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 5: choice is your drug of choice. That doesn't mean that 510 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 5: everything will affect you like that will, but you got 511 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 5: to stay away from that thing. And you know, I 512 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 5: found my way through depression because you know, people don't 513 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 5: just do drugs. There are root issues too, you know, 514 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 5: there's reasoning behind it, and I had root issues that 515 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: I find so therapy, rehab, family, everything that. You know, 516 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 5: all of the love I had helped me kind of 517 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 5: figure out what was going on, and it placed me 518 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 5: back in a position where I could fight for my life. 519 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 1: You know, I've been somewhat transparent about my journey. I mean, 520 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm now like three years removed from the path I'm 521 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: on now, but I can definitely acknowledge that year one 522 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: of this new paradigm shift quest love. The first seven 523 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: months I was actively, subconsciously and consciously trying to sabotage 524 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: it because it was just a very fearful place to 525 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: be in. Could you talk about your experience behind me? 526 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, Yeah. And I like what you said about, 527 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 5: you know, there being a fear of success because I 528 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 5: think like there was never down in my mind that 529 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 5: I'll be good at music, you know what I mean, 530 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 5: But there was. I'm a married man. I've been married 531 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 5: for fifteen years, my wife being with my wife at 532 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 5: twenty and you know, the type of music I make 533 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 5: and the artartists that everyone wanted me to be, me 534 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 5: being a married man, those two things didn't mix. So 535 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 5: you know, there was always this push and pull of 536 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I want to succeed, but 537 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 5: you know, I don't know what it's going to look like, 538 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And as I started to 539 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 5: progress in my career, I started to notice that, you know, 540 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 5: people didn't give a fuck about my marriage, you know 541 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 5: what I mean. And that made it very hard for 542 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 5: me to enjoy my career, you know what I mean, 543 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 5: and enjoy the successes of my music. And then on 544 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 5: top of that, the attention that you get when you're 545 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: in the position we're in makes it very hard for 546 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 5: you to be you know, to see things how everyone 547 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 5: else sees it. Let's feel like that, you know what 548 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 5: I mean. It's used your view on you know, relationships 549 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: and people, and it really kind of like set me 550 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 5: back because I didn't go about it the right way, 551 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I wasn't doing a good 552 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 5: job of just taking care of myself first, you know 553 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 5: what I mean. I was so concerned with what everybody 554 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: thought about me and what everybody wanted me to be 555 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 5: as an artist and stuff like that, and I was 556 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 5: people pleasing and things like that, and then I was 557 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 5: just neglecting my relationship with my wife. You know what 558 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 5: I mean, for this image of serve that I thought 559 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 5: I needed to be, and then I got sick of him, 560 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 5: and you know, it had already caused problems at home. 561 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 5: Didn't want to go back to who he was, and 562 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 5: found this middle place of like, I'm just gonna silently 563 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 5: like self medicate, you know what I mean, because I'm depressed, 564 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 5: My home life is messed up staring who I want 565 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 5: to be. But niggas love him. They love that guy, 566 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? And I just, you know, 567 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 5: I started to self medicate, and you know, didn't tell 568 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 5: anybody until it was too late. And once I decided 569 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: that it was time to tell people, the pandemic happened, 570 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 5: you know. But you know, as someone that you know 571 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 5: doesn't give a fuck about like fame or like, I 572 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 5: don't do this for accolades. I actually like love music. 573 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 5: It's very hard to appreciate artistry and everything it comes 574 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 5: with when you know what I mean. People don't like 575 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: respect it or respect you. They don't respect your humanity 576 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 5: when they see you as an artist, you know what 577 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 5: I mean. And I had to learn that the hard way. 578 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 6: I was just gonna ask, what else did you have 579 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 6: outside of rehab coming out of COVID. You also it 580 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 6: sounds like you also have people around you that you 581 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 6: may have had to shuffle a little bit change, Oh. 582 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 5: For sure, for show for shows, I got, I got 583 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 5: friends I can't see, you know what I mean. My 584 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 5: family was very hands on in my health and my recovery, 585 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So me and my family 586 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 5: we were already tight knit, but this kind of just 587 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 5: brought us closer together. But yeah, I definitely like my 588 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 5: whole circle is different. I don't got I got like 589 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 5: two friends that I call, you know what I mean. 590 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 5: And for the most part, I speak to my mother, 591 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 5: my father, and my brothers and try to keep. 592 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: It like that. 593 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: We haven't talked about your dad. 594 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: My dad. 595 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 5: My dad is a he's a funny guy. His name's 596 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 5: ron and he's gonna be on the interview. 597 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 3: It is, yes, Ronald. 598 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, my dad is the oldest of like six kids. 599 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 5: He's one of the most gentle people you'll ever meet 600 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 5: in your life. And he don't sing, he don't do music. 601 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 5: But he loves my mama. He loves you know what 602 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 5: I mean. 603 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 6: Sir, talk about growing up in that like being a 604 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 6: married man and growing up and having that because a lot. 605 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 5: Of people have a great example might not mind you. 606 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 5: My father, when I was growing up, he spent some 607 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 5: time in the pen. He he had two strikes before I, 608 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 5: before I was you know, thought of so when I 609 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 5: when I was when I was six, he got out 610 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 5: of jail and never looked back, you know, and took 611 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: care of his family. And I've seen him struggle so hard, 612 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. You know, I having two 613 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 5: strikes in the nineties, it wasn't too much work for him. 614 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 5: He you know, he was a limo driver, he's a chaplain. 615 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 5: He's done so many different things just to provide for 616 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 5: us and give us opportunities to be great. And we 617 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 5: love him to death man. And he's still, you know, 618 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 5: just superhands on in my life. And you know, I 619 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 5: talk to him all the time. But I think he's 620 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 5: a funny guy because my dad is getting old, Like 621 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 5: he's an old man. Now what is old, sir? Oh 622 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 5: my gosh, she's an old But what's even more, what's 623 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 5: even more funny is my brother's are turning into old 624 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 5: man to meet and me and me and my brothers 625 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 5: we wake up in the morning with neck pains and 626 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 5: all kind of thirty seven. You know I ain't no 627 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 5: spring chicken. Man, Are you the youngest of you had? 628 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: Three? 629 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? 630 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 5: Wait hold Steve smoke he thirty eight, about to be 631 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 5: thirty nine, always. 632 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: Youngins man, It was moving fast. See this explains it 633 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: because again I'm thinking, like, damn man, for twenty four 634 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: year old, this guy got a lot of wisdom under 635 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: his belt. Now now I get it. 636 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: I get it now. 637 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: As far as your pen game is concerned, how hard 638 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: is it to you use your music to express what 639 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: you're feeling inside. 640 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say it's difficult. It just hurts when I 641 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 5: do it. You know, then this is like a superpower 642 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 5: I've developed over years of like trying, of trial and error, 643 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 5: just pulling from emotional places. You know, I'm really good 644 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 5: at it. And you know the poetry comes from pain. 645 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 5: So it's kind of a second nature thing for me now, man. 646 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 5: And like right now I'm sitting in my house. I 647 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 5: haven't written a song in like probably three four months. 648 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 5: I'm like an out of practice musician, it feels like, 649 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 5: but I know as soon as I sit down to 650 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 5: do it, I know my process. I know what I 651 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 5: want out of these songs and if I hear the 652 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 5: music and it's it's there, the songs down there already 653 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: written at this point, you know what I mean. But 654 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 5: that comes from years of working. I put so much 655 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 5: time in that people don't see, you know what I mean, 656 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 5: with songwriting, writing for other artists, writing for myself. I 657 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 5: got a pile of probably five hundred songs that I 658 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 5: ain't never gonna see the light of day. But I 659 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 5: go back and listen to them and examine them and 660 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 5: pick them apart, just to you know, try to find 661 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 5: too my craft, you know. But I'm proud that people 662 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 5: like know me as like a songwriter, like they actually 663 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 5: like the lyrics and ship like that, because you know, 664 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 5: I don't put you know, I don't want to like 665 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: ever ever, you know, assume that people listen to my 666 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 5: ship and they love it, you know, they love what 667 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 5: I got to say, you know what I mean. 668 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm crashing down, that's my record. Yeah. 669 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm blessed to be in a position I'm in. 670 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 5: Like a lot of people just they try to say 671 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 5: cool ship, you know what I mean, I'm trying. I'm 672 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 5: trying to dig so the end that it's relatable to 673 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 5: the outer world, you know, what I mean. I think 674 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 5: that's my secret. When you sit down to write, are 675 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 5: you like a lyrics guy first or melody guy first? 676 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 5: It depends. Yeah, it all depends. 677 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: You know that. 678 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 5: People people that try to say that one or the 679 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 5: other don't really to me, I ain't doing it right, 680 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Because you you know it's 681 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 5: this is this is I don't know. It's like basketball. 682 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 5: And in a basketball game, you dribbling down the court, 683 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 5: You're not gonna shot the same shot every time, you 684 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 5: know what I mean? You got to have some kind 685 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 5: of you know, knowledge of where you're at and what 686 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 5: you know what the court is dictating. So my songwriting 687 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 5: is dictated about the court that I'm standing on. 688 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 6: When it comes to your songs, is it more of 689 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 6: a your writing songs and artists or A and R 690 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 6: are picking the songs, or is it also to your 691 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 6: writing songs for certain people? 692 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 5: No, I just right now, I don't write for anybody. 693 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: I have a pile. And you know, even when I 694 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,239 Speaker 5: was writing for other people, I never really wrote for them. 695 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 5: I didn't like, sit down like, okay, I need the 696 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 5: Beyonce song. I hate them niggas that shit. Don't that 697 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 5: that shits trash. Let me write a song for Beyonce. 698 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 5: Want to get up on Beyonce? 699 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: Rat? 700 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 5: No, No, I just write vis you know what I mean? Now, 701 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 5: I came from that. I came from like we were 702 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: what works first. People don't know I was in. We 703 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 5: were writing songs for other people. My brothers had big placements, 704 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 5: they at Usher placements and like John placements back in 705 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 5: the day. And that's what really like sold me on 706 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 5: becoming like a musician. So my first like before I 707 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 5: wrote my own projects, we were working on like writing 708 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: for the people, and I was in a songwrinning camp 709 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 5: of six motherfuckers. So you know that taught me a 710 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 5: lot about who I wanted to be as a writer. 711 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: Can you explain to me what those I always hear 712 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: about those types of camps, especially from artists that come 713 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: on this show. 714 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 4: Never been a part of those camps because. 715 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 5: Apparently I'm doing it wrong, Like, no, you're doing it right, brother. 716 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 5: I don't know. 717 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: But what are camps like? Because it's also like it's 718 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: every it's is it every man for himself? Is it 719 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: like you're off of blood? Like I got to get 720 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: a placement on this record, and it's. 721 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 5: Pretty it's pretty cut throat at certain points, but I mean, 722 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 5: I'm so displaced from it. I haven't been in a 723 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 5: camp for ten years, man, so I don't know. I 724 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 5: don't know what they like nowadays. But when I was 725 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 5: doing it, it was tough. 726 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 4: It was tough. 727 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 5: So what we used to do because we all loved 728 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 5: each other and we wanted everyone wanted to succeed, as 729 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 5: we would break songs down into pieces that's not mine. 730 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 5: That's how Woodworks did it. Somebody got the first verse, 731 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 5: we're writing a hook together. Somebody got I can verse, 732 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 5: somebody get a bridge, you know what I mean? Yeah, 733 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 5: that and that was I mean, that didn't always work, 734 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 5: but that was the game plan. That's how we went 735 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 5: into the situations. And then it would if you're going 736 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 5: into a writing camp where it's like a whole bunch 737 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 5: of individuals writers that are coming in, like look, okay, 738 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 5: let's say Tyree sets up a camp where he has 739 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 5: producers the writers in come. That is very cutthroat because 740 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: everyone's writing by themselves on their own little setup to 741 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 5: bring to play to Tyree so that he can choose 742 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 5: what records he's gonna cut, you know what I mean. 743 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 5: And that was a different environ I can say that 744 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 5: the songwriters that I've come across, they're they're all very competitive, 745 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 5: but you know there is a community of like I'm 746 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 5: going to help you out. 747 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: You know. 748 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 5: It was never so cutthroat that work wasn't getting done. 749 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: I can only imagine that, you know, if it's coming 750 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: from your insides and it's your song, it's like your child. 751 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: So I wonder, like, all right, well I got a 752 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: first verse, you know, And I do I do believe 753 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: in that whole thing of how inspiration hit you that 754 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, you have to be in the right environment 755 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: acquired him. I mean, some people need to be in 756 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: a chaotic of environment. I know, people that feel like 757 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: they need to be in arguments with their girlfriend or 758 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: you know, whatever whatever floats their book. But to have 759 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: the ideas come, Quincy Jones on the episode That Will 760 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: Never Come Out says that all of his ideas come 761 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: at one in the morning, that sort of thing. But 762 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't imagine like, Okay, having half 763 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: a song and just in the name of time, like 764 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: all right, well you take it over now it's your 765 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: child and we're co parents. 766 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 4: Like I just never understood that process. 767 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: Like I always felt like, once this song comes out 768 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: of you, you should see it through soup the nuts. 769 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know, like do you recommend 770 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: writers camps or for you it's it's better when it's 771 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: just coming from you isolated alone. 772 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 5: Well as an artist, I don't recommend writing camps, but 773 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 5: I do recommend writing with other writers. Like, for example, 774 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 5: there's an artist in Jazzi that is she's a singer 775 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 5: songwriter and she's very popular. I brought her in to 776 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 5: help me write the song that I have with Ti 777 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 5: Dallas Sign on the album. And I did it because 778 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 5: you know, when creating albums, I feel like you need 779 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 5: to have different Like let's just use the word vibes. 780 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 5: I hate the word, but let's you gotta you gotta 781 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 5: have different different. 782 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 4: This is how I know you're not twenty all right, exactly. 783 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 5: You gotta have different There has to be some type 784 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 5: of variety, you know, to to the sound. In my opinion, 785 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 5: to make a great project. You know, it's really hard 786 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 5: to pull off when it's just you in your head, 787 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I feel like I've I've 788 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 5: learned to let people in because people, you know, can 789 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 5: improve something for you, you know, can make something better 790 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 5: by you know, looking at it from their perspective, you know. 791 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 5: And I can learn a lot still, you know, I 792 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 5: definitely don't think I know everything. So having help, you 793 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 5: know what I mean, to get you through your own 794 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 5: thoughts isn't a bad thing. It just depends on how 795 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 5: you handle it, you know. And I think I've I've 796 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 5: had years of trial and era with working with other artists, 797 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 5: so I know what I like immedia, It'll take ten 798 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 5: minutes for me to decide if we actually gonna do 799 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 5: the session, you know what I mean, Like if we're 800 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 5: sitting down and you know, once I'm locked in with somebody, 801 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 5: it's gonna go smoothly. But it's all trial and there, 802 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 5: and I feel like I've learned for me, I need help, 803 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 5: and my music sounds better when I have the right 804 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 5: type of help. So it's not just about having a 805 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 5: whole bunch of songwriters people come in. It's about having 806 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 5: the right. 807 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: Of all the storied clicks in contemporary music. You know, 808 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: start with native tongues, and then start with Wu tang, 809 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: and start with death row Tde to Me is well 810 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: one one of the most ubiquitous but also on the 811 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: other side of that coin, one of the most mysterious 812 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 1: organizations that I know of but don't know jack about. 813 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: Are we all right? 814 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: Look when you join this organization number one, I'm gonna 815 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: be impression that if you join TDE then yeah, like 816 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: Sizza and Isaiah and Schoolboy and Absol and Doshi and 817 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 1: like the whole clique are all family in like working 818 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: together on each other's projects and that sort of thing. 819 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: But like, what is it like? 820 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 4: Because I know nothing about about Anthony and it is. 821 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 5: It is right. We were just talking about the songwriting camps. 822 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 5: It is the songwriting camps at the highest level. So everybody, 823 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 5: everybody is alp for blood. We are all hungry, we 824 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 5: are all independent. We help each other out where we can, 825 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 5: but we all got careers to take care of. Now. 826 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 5: Mind you, we're family, you know what I mean. And 827 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 5: we're very tight. We're very close knit, you know what 828 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 5: I mean. But man, TD, there's still a learning curve 829 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 5: for me, you know what I mean. Let's take away 830 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 5: the music industry like him his bloods, these game members, 831 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? And yeah, from LA so 832 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta, I gotta first just respect that 833 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, at at any given time, 834 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 5: she can go a sour and you know, all hell 835 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 5: could break loose on this side, you know. So I 836 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 5: just had to learn who I was dealing with and 837 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 5: learned that. You know, respect is earned, you know what 838 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 5: I mean, before it's given in this circle, and we 839 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 5: don't tolerate disrespect. We don't tolerate ignorance stuff like that. 840 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 5: Top Is like, he's hardcore man, and as hardcore as 841 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 5: he is, he's also very gentle and very loving. He's 842 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 5: a father of like nine kids. He's got a lot 843 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 5: of children. Yeah, top is a is an interesting dude. 844 00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 5: Man's Charlie Mack. You know. But as far as the egos, 845 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 5: I will say this, I've never been in a place 846 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 5: where I'm that motivated to stand out in my life. 847 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 5: There's so many great things happening. It just makes me 848 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 5: want to work so much harder to be the best 849 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 5: version of myself. Sizzle's on top of the planet. Motherfucking 850 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 5: do she scares me? Scares me? 851 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh? 852 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 5: I did. Yeah, if you're not familiar, go check out. 853 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 5: That's the Florida girl. And she she's like, yeah, you 854 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 5: can't tell me nothing. I know music and I know 855 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 5: what I like. I know beyond what I like, what 856 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 5: is proper like. I know I know when it when 857 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 5: it hits, when it's smacks, and when when the artist 858 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 5: behind it knows how to make it smack. This bitch 859 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 5: I didn't even know she was with y'all. 860 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 3: I like, what, y'all that's great. 861 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 5: Look, look I met I met doch Uh like uh, 862 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 5: I guess a couple of weeks before they announced, she 863 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 5: was starting to TV. When they first came, she came 864 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 5: in so nice and played me some records. She played 865 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 5: me the craziest records. What's the song that she has out? 866 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 5: You probably won't know anyway, but she played me something 867 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 5: that I was like, I was floored. Well, lord, this 868 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 5: is one of the most talented women in the game 869 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 5: right now, and I knows, you know, scissors scissors and 870 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 5: deserves everything that's going on. But Adolcie, he could ask 871 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 5: about Dochie, she gonna say the same thing. I'm scared 872 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 5: of that girl, you know. But that's the environment that 873 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 5: TD creates. It creates monsters, it creates people that are 874 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 5: so hungry that you ain't don't give a fun what 875 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 5: y'ad got going on. It's me, is this this is 876 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 5: PD or it's nothing else, you know what I mean? 877 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 5: And it's always gonna be that. 878 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: As an avid watcher of King of the Hill, can 879 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: you please explain your. 880 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 4: Logic behind John Redcorn. 881 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 5: We can talk about King of the Hill all day. Okay, 882 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 5: let go of my person. I don't know you, okay. 883 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 3: Oh, John Redcorn. He was the indigenous dude on in 884 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 3: King of the Hill. Yes, that was married to the. 885 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 4: Blonde right right? 886 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know John Redcord was not married, motherfucker. He 887 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 5: was the dude on the side. Dale Gribble is blind 888 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 5: and when he could not see what was going on, 889 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 5: he was dirty. Now there was a boy on the show, 890 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 5: his name was Joseph, but we all know the truth 891 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 5: behind that whole story. Now that now, mind you and 892 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 5: me and my wife like we we oh my gosh, 893 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 5: we burned King of Hill into the ground. I've watched 894 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 5: the season finale so many times, and like I'm I'm 895 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 5: a huge, huge fan of John Redcorn in general, just 896 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 5: because of the episode that I remember him on. 897 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know that song. 898 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 5: That song was a happy accident. Let's be honest, nobody 899 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 5: expect I didn't expect that motherfucker to go as crazy 900 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 5: as it did. 901 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 4: But it did. 902 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: I only asked you simply because you know, oftentimes artists, 903 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: especially under the umbrella hip hop, and I kind of 904 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: blamed ghost Face for this, where they'll just title their 905 00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: song anything that has nothing to do with the song. 906 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 907 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: But when I saw that, I was like, nah, there's 908 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: something deeper behind this besides just naming it John Redcorn, 909 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: and especially I know the character that he is, and 910 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: it was curious to how you landed there, and so I. 911 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 5: Actually started with with I was like, I was watching 912 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 5: King of the Hill and we were watching I was 913 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 5: watching the episode where Joseph was like it was like 914 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 5: a Joseph John Redcord episode. Yeah, and you know he 915 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 5: left and was just and it's always crying in a 916 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 5: car or something like that, and it just it made 917 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 5: me so sad. I was like, oh my gosh, this 918 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 5: poor guy. And the first verse came of the hook 919 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 5: came immediately alone every night alone, and I was like, 920 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 5: this might be interesting, and I started I wrote that 921 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 5: I actually helped produce that song. So I did drums first, 922 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 5: I beat by and then I did the harmonies and 923 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 5: recorded over the harmonies and then had somebody coming in 924 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 5: and play guitar, so I have musicians build around my 925 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 5: I did my little three part or whatever, and we 926 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 5: went from there. But you know that that was, like 927 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 5: I said, a happy accident. But it definitely helped, like 928 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 5: shape how I wrote songs for the next few years 929 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 5: because of how people responded to it. You know, it 930 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 5: made me a little more adventurous. It made me want 931 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 5: to connect the dots before I sat down to write. 932 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 5: I do a lot of that, like a lot of 933 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 5: repping before I actually write the song in thought where 934 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 5: I you know, I listened to the music, I said, 935 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 5: I'm listening to the beat, but I'm also trying to 936 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 5: just figure out, you know, what would go good over 937 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 5: the beat and blah blah blah. But anyway, you know this, 938 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 5: this is like John Redcorn is my baby, man. It's 939 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 5: it's it's the gift that keeps done giving. 940 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: I love that song, man for real. 941 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you about one of your collaborators 942 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 7: you've been working with over the years, Dek the Punisher Man. 943 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 7: Hey and you guys, y'all relationship in y'all's creative chemistry, 944 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 7: how did that come about? 945 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 5: Me and DK met through one of my favorite people 946 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 5: on the planet. QUI. I don't know you remember. I 947 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 5: think I met you back in the day through this guy, 948 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 5: through Andre Harris, through are. 949 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 4: Yes. 950 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 951 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, dang, you've been to a playlist retreat. I met 952 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 5: you got the Playlist retreat. 953 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 4: You've come to Jeff's thing. 954 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've been. I was there the first three 955 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 5: years and then the drug. I mean, you know what. 956 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: The night I came to the Playlist Retreat, I got 957 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: there late from the tonight show and there was a 958 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 1: taco truck outside it. And what they failed to tell 959 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: me was that all the tacos were infused. And I 960 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: at that time, I was, you know, post pandemic, I microdos, 961 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: I like edibles. I'm very lightweight, and so I downed 962 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: about four of those tacos because I was starving, and 963 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: I found out the hard way. 964 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, don't oh yeah, this night was interesting. Oh you 965 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 5: four you' all around? Yeah, the most euphoric tacos you'll 966 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 5: ever have in your life. 967 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 1: Correct. 968 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 5: But I actually met DK the Punisher in two thousand 969 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,479 Speaker 5: and ten at Andre Harris's house. This is the first 970 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 5: opportunity I had to write songs as just as songwriter 971 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 5: Nobody's engineer was given to me by Andre Harris and 972 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 5: and DK met working under Andre Harris, and we got 973 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 5: great placements, had some great work met. Miss Jill got 974 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 5: placements on the Woman project. You know, I did Fool's Goal. 975 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 5: DK produced Fools Gold for Miss Jill on her last project. 976 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 4: Nice. 977 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 5: But like, that's my brother at this point. That's that's 978 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 5: and you know, that's my Baltimore connect, you know, so 979 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 5: I like me and him have a different type of 980 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 5: relationship now outside of music. Like I'm about to call 981 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 5: him right now. We're supposed to work out today, so 982 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 5: it's going to go link up. But that's my literal 983 00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 5: brother at this point. And musically, you know, me and 984 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 5: him just click whenever we decide to work. It just 985 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 5: works now, y'all boys. That chemistry man, man, But the 986 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 5: music industry is tough man. DK actually had to shift. 987 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 5: He's a web developer now, so you know, and this 988 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 5: is one thing that I always recommend to, you know, 989 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 5: career musicians, if it's not paying your rent, like, don't 990 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 5: force that, don't be a broke musician. I don't recommend 991 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 5: that for anybody. Having experienced that, go get you a 992 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 5: fucking job. You're getting your job isn't going to take 993 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 5: away from your talent. It's going to make it easier 994 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 5: for you to get things done if you really think 995 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 5: about it. 996 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 2: You know. 997 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 5: So DK did that, and of course he still has 998 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 5: placements on Heavy. He's still working, you know what I mean. 999 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 5: But I'm happy for him because his life is balanced 1000 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 5: out now and he can focus on being a better 1001 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 5: musician because he has a career to kind of. 1002 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 6: Balance another skill, another skill. You didn't mention what was 1003 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 6: your first placement? That's what I asked the Mirror that 1004 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 6: I forgot my first placement. Oh my god, a song 1005 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 6: called Drinks Saints Free by Warren G. 1006 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 2: Oh wow, all right, I like that face. 1007 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: That came out of nowhere. 1008 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, it's a peculiar. It's a peculiar. One 1009 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 5: artist named Mono Maury. 1010 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: Which is yeah shouts of man. 1011 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, Eman is the one that set that session up. 1012 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 5: He called me like, girl, Hey, hey, I got a 1013 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 5: chest with Warren G. Pull up and then we pulled 1014 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 5: up and uh yeah, I got I got my little 1015 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 5: part off. 1016 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 6: Can you talk about the LA music scene because I'm 1017 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 6: curious about the camaraderie because I heard you mention the 1018 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 6: interviews before that. It's a lot of competition, but there's 1019 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 6: got to be camaraderie because you collaborate with Anderson, You've collaborated, 1020 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 6: uh with I'm. 1021 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 3: Guessing like the majority of folks out here. So, but 1022 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 3: what is the scene, Like where do y'all go to? 1023 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 3: Like what's the club? It just doesn't feel like LA 1024 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 3: is like that, like Philly was. Yeah, I know, it's weird. 1025 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 5: That ain't no, ain't no scene for me. I came 1026 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 5: to myself now l A the LA musicians like it's like, 1027 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 5: all right, so you go to you know how you 1028 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 5: go to LA shows and the crowd just like stares 1029 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 5: at you. Yes, yeah, that's how. That's how the LA musicians. 1030 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 5: Then feels like we don't really get along like you 1031 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 5: think we would. Nah, it ain't no camaraderie or anything 1032 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 5: like that. CD is td E. We keep to ourselves 1033 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 5: and it's everybody else outside of that circuit. 1034 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 6: Tie td though, right tis not a TDH Yeah no, 1035 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 6: no no, But that's like TYE is time. 1036 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 5: It's hard to get to the only reason I like 1037 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 5: have these connections because I'm me and I don't say 1038 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 5: that like as a musician, like the type of person 1039 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 5: I am. You know, once you meet me and you 1040 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 5: shake my hand and you start to talk to you 1041 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 5: understand that I have no ill intention. I really respect 1042 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 5: the art and the game, and I think that goes 1043 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 5: a long way with a lot of artists like Anderson. 1044 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 5: I was a fan of hands and I met him 1045 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 5: when he was still Breezy love Joy and you know 1046 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 5: he was I forgot the project. It had a song 1047 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 5: on their I was like, take me to the Star 1048 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 5: Gay and Black be in the space, this beautiful song. 1049 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 5: And I met him and FANBOYD and like was genuine 1050 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 5: about it, Like, wasn't you know I didn't want to 1051 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 5: like act all hard. I was like, yo, I love 1052 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 5: your shit, man, Oh my gosh it. Me and him 1053 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 5: have been friends ever since because I was genuine and 1054 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 5: like when I meet people like ty and and you know, 1055 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 5: I was always genuine. So I feel like they see 1056 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 5: me come back around with my own stuff and they 1057 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 5: want to help, they want to work because of the 1058 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 5: type of person I am. And that's the thing. It's 1059 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 5: always a people thing for me, you know what I mean. 1060 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 5: I don't care where you're from, what you do. Long's 1061 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 5: you go good people, you know, and I'm here to 1062 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 5: support that. 1063 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 3: You see that in a circle back. 1064 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 6: Even when you mentioned Jill and how you had met 1065 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 6: her as an engineer and then y'all ended up collaborating 1066 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 6: on your album, I was like, well that speaks volumes. 1067 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, for sure, And I mean, shout out 1068 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 5: to miss Jill Man. She's still very instrumental. Like when 1069 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 5: I was going through all of my drug youth, she 1070 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 5: was calling me and like, didn't nobody call me, didn't 1071 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 5: nobody check in on me? Yeah, she called me the 1072 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 5: other day just about my mother, just to check in 1073 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 5: and by my album. She called me to let me 1074 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 5: know she heard my shit and like she loved it, 1075 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And that shout out to 1076 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 5: miss Jail Yeah, I mean, you guys know it's Jilly 1077 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 5: and shout out to Philly. Let's let's start there. Let 1078 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 5: me go back, shout out to Philadelphia. Okay, all of 1079 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 5: my music connects or all of the things that are 1080 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 5: all of the people that have really like put on 1081 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 5: for me are from Philly, you know what I mean. 1082 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 5: And I mean, you guys, I don't know what's in 1083 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 5: the water, but like the talent even now, the talent 1084 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 5: pool is phenomenal, you know what I mean, And I'm 1085 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 5: glad to be a part of that community. I'm glad 1086 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 5: to say that I'm somewhat a part of that community 1087 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 5: of people. You know. 1088 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 4: Well, thank you, brother, I appreciate that. 1089 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: Before we close, I gotta ask, can you tell me? 1090 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: And I'm asking more personally, like, what was the process 1091 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: the steps to your your health journey? 1092 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 4: Now out. 1093 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 5: You know a lot of prayer, a lot of prayer. 1094 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: And when I mean health journey, I'm actually mean your 1095 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: physical health journey, because oh oh. 1096 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 5: I tell you a lot of prayer. I still right, Well, 1097 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 5: now you know, all right, so I'm a foodie. I 1098 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 5: love to eat. And during all of this, you know, 1099 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 5: the pandemic and stuff, all we had was postmates sitting 1100 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 5: at the house. I got up to about two hundred 1101 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 5: and fifty pounds. But yeah, yes, look, and you know 1102 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 5: even now, I'm I'm just shocked to see where I got. 1103 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 5: To honestly answer your question, I don't know how all 1104 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 5: this happened. 1105 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 2: I just I was. 1106 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 5: I was just standing on a wing in the prayer man, no, no, no. 1107 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 5: I started I started by asking questions, what did I want? 1108 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, who do I want to 1109 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 5: be what do I want to look like? And I 1110 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 5: came up with a goal to get down to two 1111 00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 5: hundred pounds. And after I lost a few pounds, I 1112 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 5: got to this point where I wasn't losing any more weight. 1113 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 5: So I got a nutritionist because I felt like my 1114 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 5: eating was the biggest thing. So my nutrition is this 1115 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 5: the real reason? And I'm in shape. I'm in now. 1116 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 5: You taught me how to spread my meals out. He 1117 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 5: taught me how, you know, eat the right amount of protein, 1118 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 5: make sure I get the right kind of carbs in. 1119 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 5: So my diet did everything. 1120 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 3: You know, sugar, what you're doing with? 1121 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 5: No bread, no sugar, no salt, no life, no love, 1122 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 5: no hoogs, no happiness. 1123 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: With you Right now, man, I'm drinking my salads. 1124 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 5: That's right, That's right, these damn seaweed chips. On a 1125 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 5: personal note, if y'all ever need information on the I'm 1126 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 5: a wealth of knowledge when it comes to like healthy 1127 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 5: and yeah, like that, you know, because it's important especially 1128 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 5: for us. It's black folk, you know what I mean. 1129 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 5: We have our issues and we need to pass knowledge 1130 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 5: around so that we can all, you know, thrive and 1131 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 5: be healthy. So feel like you need some information, man, 1132 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,399 Speaker 5: feel free to reach out broad Got you so, sir. 1133 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 3: You want to functional mushrooms? You want to. 1134 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 5: No mushrooms, That's that's part of my I can't do mushrooms. No, No, 1135 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 5: not rooms, sir. 1136 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. 1137 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,280 Speaker 4: I do the badrooms. 1138 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, not a I'm talking about the other one, the 1139 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 6: coffee rooms here mutual. 1140 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: Okay, you did say that you did that, like matter 1141 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: of fact, I'm right now. 1142 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 4: We have some in the kitchen. 1143 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. Multi vitamin for sure. I definitely like try to 1144 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 5: stay as healthy as possible. But I mean I feel 1145 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 5: like people that need multivitamins are eating like ship. You 1146 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,320 Speaker 5: know what I mean. Eat healthy? You need to do 1147 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 5: all the extra ship. 1148 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 4: Just just do. 1149 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 5: Put some greens in your body. This is one. Here's 1150 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 5: the note of the day. If you're gonna eat like crap, 1151 00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 5: put something green on your stomach first, because there's something 1152 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,879 Speaker 5: inside of you know, in the fiber or so. There's 1153 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 5: a chemical that gets put in your stomach and it 1154 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 5: lines your stomach and helps you digest your food better 1155 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 5: if you eat green before you eat anything else. So 1156 00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 5: just eat a little salad before you eat anything else. 1157 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:00,799 Speaker 5: That'll help out. 1158 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 3: Yes, Sally, you're not like a. 1159 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 5: If you if you blending if Yeah, the juice works. 1160 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a salad fan at all, so all my juice, 1161 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: you are salads. 1162 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 5: So smart man, smart man, and it works just as well. 1163 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 6: Can I ask Fat Sir one question I did? I'd 1164 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 6: like to ask Fat Sir old faster. 1165 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 3: Can you tell me though, in Inglewood three of your 1166 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 3: favorite places to eat? Because I just would like to 1167 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 3: know there right now, Inglewood Service? 1168 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 5: All right, all right, if you just want to like 1169 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 5: small little breakfast spot, emma is and it's a hole 1170 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 5: in the wall. This is our bodegga. Okay. So now 1171 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 5: Emma's is on Market in Manchester. She right across the 1172 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,879 Speaker 5: street from the swat. Mean, she's just a little hole 1173 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 5: in the wall. But you go in there. You just 1174 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 5: get you a breakfast burrito. Emma to take care of it. 1175 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 3: I'm a breakfast burrito theme, so thank you. I'm always 1176 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 3: on the chase. 1177 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So now and you tell it. You 1178 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 5: tell her that Daniel sent you. Don't tell it Daryl sent. 1179 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 2: Extra g A. 1180 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, uh Doulans really you don't like see you have me? No, 1181 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 5: you just disrespected I thought it was commercial. I didn't 1182 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 5: know if it was, Dolens is all we got. No, 1183 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say it's the best, so who out 1184 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,879 Speaker 5: here because they be lying, But Dolings is what we got. 1185 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 5: So go get you somebode. Go get you from the sun, 1186 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 5: some some smother chicken from Duelings. You'll be all right. 1187 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 3: Now, give me a healthy spot, give me one of 1188 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 3: the last spot and simply host them. Oh well, yeah, 1189 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 3: that's I live down the street. 1190 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 5: Okay, perfect, Ye, that's not that's not Inglewood, but that's 1191 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 5: that's where we go. That's where we go. 1192 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 4: Y'all know my two cents anymore, that's spout. 1193 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 5: That's not my spot. No, no, no, no, that's out 1194 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 5: of towns Inglewood spot. 1195 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,919 Speaker 4: I support my two cents. 1196 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 6: Ain't nothing wrong with that shot off to Dustin Felder, 1197 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,919 Speaker 6: but simply holdsome it's historic in in uh of course 1198 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 6: South l A. 1199 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 5: And the ownership so got it? 1200 00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 4: Got it? Well? 1201 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: Thanks sir, I thank you for taking time out to 1202 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: speak to us. Also, godspeed on on your good energy 1203 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: to her. But more than that, I really appreciate just 1204 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: you and applaud your ability to not only share your life, 1205 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: not only for your music, but in your personal story, 1206 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: your recovery and just your your daily walk, and it's 1207 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: it's needed. And especially the air quote tumultuous times that 1208 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: we're in when you're watching a lot of the old 1209 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 1: guard get dealt with and you're seeing the new guard 1210 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 1: come into play, you know this is overdue and needed. 1211 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: And I applaud you and thank you for coming on 1212 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: and of course love to Supreme to share your story 1213 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: with us. Man, Thank you, Man. 1214 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 5: I really appreciate you guys inviting me Man, and and 1215 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 5: just to say, I'm a huge fan, Bro, I have 1216 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,439 Speaker 5: been for years and years and years. Thank gonna gash 1217 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 5: you too much, man, but you you. 1218 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 2: I look up to you, man, and thank you brother. 1219 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 5: It's a pleasure to talk to you. 1220 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you for having man that the album 1221 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 7: is dope. But the song like that's my favorite record 1222 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 7: on the album. That's just a beautiful song, Man, really 1223 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 7: really vulnerable, and just the vocal performance on it is 1224 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 7: just really beautiful. 1225 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 4: Man. 1226 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 5: So thank you, thank you, thank you for saying that. Bro. 1227 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 5: I really appreciate that this this album is a laborer love, 1228 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 5: and you know, I'm just excited to start getting out 1229 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 5: here and performing these songs and getting through this. 1230 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough. 1231 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 2: It's not gonna be tough. 1232 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: Well, this this album is it's take one step at 1233 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: a time. Nah man. Just look, it was uncomfortable, go 1234 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: with it. If it's out of your comfort zone, go 1235 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:41,320 Speaker 1: with it. 1236 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 5: I've learned not to hold back on my emotions. If 1237 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 5: I got to cry on stage, I'm gona let it out. 1238 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 5: But we're gonna get through it, for sure. 1239 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 4: That's important. I applaud that ship. 1240 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: All right, we have a farticular Sugar Steve, get your 1241 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: network back, bro. We thank you all are here and 1242 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm changing shout the cousin. Jake and Brittany, thank you, 1243 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: and Sir big upt We'll see you next week. Quest 1244 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,959 Speaker 1: Love Supreme all right, yes, sir, thank you for listening 1245 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: to Quest Love Supreme. This podcast is hosted by Mere 1246 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: Quest Love, Thompson, Liya Saint Clair, Fante Coleman, Sugar, Steve Mandell, 1247 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: and myself. I'm pay Bill Sherman. The executive producers are 1248 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,479 Speaker 1: mer who just walked into the goddamn room, Thompson, Sean Jean, 1249 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: and Brian Calhoun. Produced by Brittany, Benjamin, Jake Pain and 1250 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 1: Lias Sinclair. 1251 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 4: Edited by Alex Conroy. 1252 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: I know Alice Conroy, produced for iHeart by Noel Brown West. 1253 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. 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