WEBVTT - Some Time With... Jordan Christopher Michael! 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:21.880 Hey there, Fana Ritos. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:24.360 Welcome back to an all new episode of How Rude 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:28.200 Tanner Ritos. Today, we're interviewing a guest star who will 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.480 always hold a special place in our hearts, whether it's 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.560 because of the pure chaos he brought to these storylines 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.839 or because he was Jody Sweeten's first on screen kiss. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.479 Jordan Christopher Michael, also known as Rusty, will remain a 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.319 huge part of the full House legacy forever, and we 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.360 can't wait to talk to him today. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.519 So let's get this interview started. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.000 I apologize in advance. I'm not a. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.320 Don't apologize weirdy by. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:00.600 Stuff. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:02.600 Yeah, that did stuff. That's all you got to do. 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:03.880 We can hear you, we can see you. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.760 Yeah, yeah, no, we every We've been doing this podcast 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.080 now for a considerable amount of time, and it feels 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.920 like almost every week, Uh, one of us forgets how 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:13.400 to do something. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:14.560 It's always don't. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.520 I haven't zoomed since COVID, so as you can see, 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.080 I opened up the link and then my ladies thing 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:21.640 popped up. 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.960 You know what, Hey what you made it? 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.920 So to be fair, we have interviewed, uh, some octogenarians 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.319 on our show that we're writers and so if they 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.200 can make it through zoom, can you. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.160 We're not worried about you. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.160 We're not worried about it. And also just so you know, 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:40.840 we just start kind of we just jump right in. 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.600 We just start like the interview now, so we're rolling, 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.280 so like now, good to see you again. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:49.560 Yeah, good to see you both? 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:50.520 How od Yes? Y? 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:51.240 Hi? 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:52.200 Yeah, I don't. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.919 I don't think I've seen you since the Full House days, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.520 but you and Jody reunited a little more recently than that. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.400 Yeah, we got to do the Hollywood Darlings episode and. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.920 Oh it was so fun and it was you know, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.160 the whole thing was about like that I kept having 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.320 failed relationships, so like why don't I you know what, 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.880 maybe I should get hooked back up with Rusty like 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.440 he was my first kiss. Maybe I should should find 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.040 out what he's doing. Yeah, so that was like the 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.320 whole premise of the Ridiculous show. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.520 I believe I was a Yes, I was a tattoo artist. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:26.160 Yes. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.600 What did you think when you got that phone call 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.920 to come back and talk about your days, Rusty? 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.080 Like what that must have been like it's been so long. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:39.680 Yeah, I thought I thought that was super cool. It was. Yeah, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.760 it was fun and it seemed like such a fun show, 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.520 so I look forward to being on it. Uh, you know, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:50.640 the whole premise of it just it's it's like everybody's dream. 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.799 You just you you get to work with your friends, yeah, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.120 and just make a show. And it seemed like you 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.320 had a lot of creative leeway on. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.920 It, so we have I mean, it was all it 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.520 was an all improv show, so it was like you knew, 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.519 you know, sort of it's like a curb your enthusiasm, 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:08.120 and you're right. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.440 It was really fun. Christinelake and Beverly Mitchell and I had. 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.280 A blast because it was like, go for it, whatever 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.640 you want to do, and I was like, yeah, like 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.320 like anything, I could say anything I wanted. Although we 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:21.800 did get a note at one point they were like. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.280 Could she maybe just just a little less? 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.320 And I was like, you said, you gave me permission. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.320 But it was fun. Yeah, we were Yeah, we were 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.960 in that uh that little tattoo shop over over in 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:35.040 like North Hollywood there. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.720 I tried to buy it every once in a while. Yeah. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:43.520 Yeah, So we've been watching obviously the show going back 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.080 to the original, but I forgot that Rusty was in. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.560 So many episodes like you did four right, four? 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.160 Yes, yes, there was, yeah, four in total. I think 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:56.840 that sounds right. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.600 We've we've just gotten those episodes too. So we've seen 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.720 the Secret love Letter episode and then the first episode 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.760 where you were playing pranks on everyone with the dining 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:09.440 room table. 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.520 So those are the two we've seen so far. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.600 Yeah, okay, I will say the Secret Admirer one is 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.960 is fans favorite episode? 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:18.760 Top rated? 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.279 It's a I think that's a good episode. I always like, 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.120 I always liked how that how that episode went. It 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:32.120 felt it felt a little different, I guess in that 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.760 I just kind of like how they structured it. It was, 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.600 you know, usually everybody's kind of splintered as their own 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.400 thing going on, and this was kind of one through 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.760 line of this letter for sure, wreaking havoc on everybody, 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.280 and it just followed that little path, and I always 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:50.320 thought that was kind of cool. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.200 Yeah, those are my favorite types of storylines where everyone's 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.880 involved in that through line. 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.320 Like you said, yeah, I had that kind of like 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.120 you know, say, kind of version of a of a 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.359 you know, kind of a who done it? A little 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.080 bit of a mystery passing through the house. And yeah, 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.480 that that one was a lot of fun to do. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.560 I mean, they were all fun to do, but that 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.640 one stood out because people seem to really like that. Mmm. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.400 Oh yeah, it's people. People loved your character. People loved Rusty. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.000 They thought he was like such a great sort of 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:25.280 Dennis the Menace, uh foil to the Three Girls, you. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:33.320 Know, uh yeah, some some some didn't. And they let 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:34.960 me know. I got letters, you. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.880 Know, oh really really fan letters about about Rusty. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.640 I wouldn't call it fan letter. Yes, some fan letters 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:47.760 about Rusty, but I I also you know, there were 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.760 people out there that didn't. They were very i think 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:56.520 very protective of the casting that they were familiar with. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:01.159 And then this nightmare comes in, you know, causing all 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.080 this havoc, and there was a you know, there's a 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:07.560 certain amount of like, how dare you kind of kind 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.039 of a thing. So it wasn't everybody's favorite, but you know, 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.320 enough it was cool and if and if you didn't 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.479 like it, then I mean that was also kind of. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.640 The point either of, right, right, that was kind of yeah, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.719 you didn't really want to like Rusty too much. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.440 Yeah, he was somewhere in the middle. There were likable 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.760 things and there were dislikable things, so I get it. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.919 But yeah, there were a few people that really didn't 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.000 like it and they let me so it was fun. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:30.799 It was a bit of an adventure for a minute. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.440 Those are the people that have parasocial relationships with the cast. 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:35.240 Members on the show. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.159 There's like, no, that's my family that you're playing on, right. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.839 Yeah, yeah, for sure, I mean I get it. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.599 Oh yeah, I mean we all get a little protective 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:48.039 of people. But do you remember auditioning for the show? 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:49.880 Yeah? 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:50.480 Was it? 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.360 What was it like, like, did you watch it already 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.120 or were you okay? 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.320 Yeah, I definitely watched the show. I was a big 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:02.680 TGIF fan at the time. I don't remember the exact lineup. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.360 It changed a few times, but I feel like by 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:11.480 the time I got involved, it was like season three 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.720 or four, so yeah, it was established. It was. It 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.960 was a hit. I think maybe you know, it was 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.760 probably step by step following it or something like that. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.760 It was a good night of television for ten twelve 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:25.960 year old however I was at the time. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:28.880 How old were you when you did the show? 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.080 I feel like it was like ninety ninety one or 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:38.440 something like that, So yeah, ten, ten eleven something like 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.440 that seventh grade. I think it was seventh grade for. 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.880 Me, okay, okay, yeah, because I feel like you were 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:44.480 like a couple. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.760 You were like a couple of years older than I was. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.000 I think at the time, two years. Yeah, I was 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.200 gonna say, I think you were like two years older 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.480 than me. Yeah, which, of course then is like you're 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:56.720 like we're world's apart. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:03.880 Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:08.600 remember getting the call and being super excited because it 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.440 was a show I watched and it was a show 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:17.520 I liked, and so super cool opportunity. But you know, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.440 thinking back to those days of how we used to 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.960 do it with casting, it was, you know, it was 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:29.240 a daily trek to l a and so the only 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.680 way to survive at that age was to have it 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:37.800 instilled upon yourself that you go on the audition, doesn't 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.760 matter what it's for, however much you want it, you 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.160 just got to get it out of your mind as 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.000 soon as soon as you leave and have no attachments 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.559 to anything. So super excited, let it go. God. I 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.120 don't remember if there was a callback or something, but 0:08:52.160 --> 0:09:01.360 I remember going in reading with Deborah and that probably 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.560 was a callback. When they were matching us up. And 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.480 that went really well because a lot of the people 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:10.920 at the casting office were asking if you know that 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:13.000 was in fact my mom. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.800 And oh that's always good, right, You're like, oh, yes. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:26.040 Yeah, significantly more related than me and my actual mom actually, right, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.839 So yeah, it worked out. It worked out good. And 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:32.079 then yeah, that was super exciting when they called and said, hey, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:36.120 I want you to do the show. That was you know, 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.360 I definitely remember that. It was one of the larger 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.520 things I had done at that point by a good amount. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.679 So yeah, that was a super. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.079 What other what what other stuff had you done before 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.839 Full House at the time? Had you been working as 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.200 a kid actor for a while or was it like 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:55.319 relatively new. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.440 Or I should have googled myself before this. I don't remember. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.280 I don't You're like, I don't know the day years. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.199 I don't know how old I was, right. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.079 I don't remember exactly what the timeline I had done. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.120 I think by that point I had done a few 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:18.960 kind of one off episodes of like Matt Locke. I 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.360 had done a lot of commercials by that point, and 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.199 it was where you're at that age, you know, you 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:31.960 start theater commercials, then your agent starts looking at like 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.679 television and film and stuff like that. So I was 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.960 just getting into the television part, and I think I 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:39.480 had maybe done matt Lock before that and a few 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.520 other a lot of. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:46.319 Pilots ear back in the day when yeah, they used 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:47.959 to just shoot pilots and be like, I don't know, 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:48.959 let's see how it does. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:49.360 Yeah. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.080 Yeah, it was like it was at that point where 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:58.199 there was a lot of new found success with stand ups, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.319 and so I remember going through a phase where I 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:10.600 was playing a stand up comedian's son or something on 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.880 a regular basis. There were a lot of those pilots 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.240 that didn't that didn't work out. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:19.000 But yeah, I think that was originally supposed to be 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.880 the plot of Full House, was that it was three 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.360 comedians comics House of Comics. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:26.679 Yeah, there was something about that. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.080 Yeah, Jeff was about that. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:33.400 In the eighties it was everyone wanted to do stand up. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.640 Now everyone wants to be an Instagram influencer. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:40.840 So yeah, me too. Yeah, do you. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.120 Still get do you ever get recognized by people? 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:49.440 I don't get recognized as no, not not not in 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:57.560 a while, but people people definitely they remember that if if, 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.240 if it ever comes up that, oh, when you know 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:06.640 you've done done these parts and what I remember you from, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:14.800 Like that's an easy go to, right And amazingly a 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.320 lot of people remember those episodes still to this day. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.680 So it's syndicated everywhere. There's a new audience finding it 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:26.200 all the time. It's shot legs. It's amazing. So I've 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:31.720 run into people that are, you know, significantly younger, that 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.560 have just discovered the show and are going through it. 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.200 They're watching that, they're watching Fuller House, they're a big fan, 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.560 so it's like fresh in their mind. And yeah, but no, 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.720 nobody's coming up to me at the grocery store or 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.480 anything like that. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.880 Just for the best, I'm going to do it now. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.560 I'm going to just find out wherever you live and 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.120 just show at your grocery store and be like. 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.360 That's that rest. That's fine. Yeah, I think there's like 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.760 ten people that live in this town or something like that. 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.480 So I think I'm okay, what part of what part 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.080 of the country you went? You don't have to give 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.200 us like your address or anything, but just like where 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:06.040 where have I. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.360 Split my time? I still have a place in Long 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.640 Beach and then the rest of the time I'm Mountain, Michigan. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:17.959 Oh okay, like Dave, yeah is out there in I 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:21.520 don't know exactly where he's at, but yeah, somewhere in 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:23.360 to his house. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:26.880 He's by a lake. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:33.600 If that helps, okay, just say yeah, I'll find him. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.240 Did you like, did you work a lot after the 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:48.360 show or were you like how long did you continue 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.439 sort of child actor careering? 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:52.080 That's not even a word? 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:53.040 What did it? Was? It? Sure? 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:54.640 Make it a ver? 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.560 I continued for a while. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:13:59.280 Uh. 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:05.160 The full House thing definitely opened up some some new doors. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:09.640 I got to do a handful of shows. I think 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:14.160 that I I kind of even got to like fast 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.000 track the audition process because they were kind of doing 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:25.680 the same thing. So full House led to like Saved 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:31.200 by the Bell I did. I did a few features, 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:37.320 not necessarily because of that, but it you know, you're. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.040 An easier it gets more work. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.600 You know, every time you add more credits, they're like, oh, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.000 you're doing right. 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.440 So you're only as hot as the last thing you did, 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.800 of course, and and and full House was huge, So 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:54.240 it did open up a lot of doors, and I 0:14:54.280 --> 0:15:00.160 got to do some some more cool stuff and and 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.400 you know, I kind of realized that I had started 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:09.720 in this industry to work behind the camera. I just 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.640 I didn't realize that at that age. I didn't realize 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.520 there were so many people behind the scenes. I just 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.960 saw Star Wars, Yeah I want to do this, and 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.680 I assumed it was the actors that just made everything 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.360 happen somehow. So, you know, I never really left, but 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.600 I stopped acting, you know, somewhere in my teens, and 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:35.000 then now I just do I do smaller things as 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:36.320 they as they come up. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:37.760 Hmm. 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:42.520 Yeah, I think I think a lot so many people 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.840 that start as kid actors in this business really do 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.880 eventually move behind the camera because it does become You're like, 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:51.960 I'm just so familiar with this, but like I don't 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:56.320 need to be in front, but what happens sort of 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:57.480 behind it now, you know. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.320 And it's I think. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:03.080 Once you once you have a taste of this business, 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.040 and if you have a good experience with it, which 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.960 it sounds like, you know, wasn't a horrific experience for 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:10.960 you that you know most of the time, you're like, 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.800 I actually I really like being on set. I just 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.960 feel at home there. Yes, yeah, the controlled chaos, you know. 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:26.280 Yeah, yeah, I really like the process. From script to screen. 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:34.520 Everything involved almost is very appealing to me. And you know, 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:40.280 I still like the acting element of it. It's you know, 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.480 it's just being a kid as an adult and getting 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:49.960 a way to play you know, space marines or pirates 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.560 or cowboys or whatever you're doing as a child in 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.800 your backyard with your friends. Well, now you get to 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:59.480 do that as an adult. And there's something really neat 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:08.960 about that. Uh. But I wasn't super comfortable with like 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:13.280 being recognized and and things like that. That didn't quite 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.720 work for me. So you know, I still wanted to 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.199 be a part of the process, but I you know, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.240 I didn't need to be the one on the screen. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.159 Did you get recognized after you did played Rusty on 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.280 those episodes? Like, did you get recognized out sort of 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:32.320 in the world a lot? 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.400 Yeah? 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:36.280 What would people say? 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:37.919 What was like the go to what What would they 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:42.040 say to you when they came up to you, Hey, 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.280 are you that kid that? Yeah? 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:44.880 Right? 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.359 Yeah? Just punch in the face. I hope not. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:48.920 I mean, you know, it was one of those things 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:54.080 where you know, I had definitely I've done stuff previous 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:58.199 that that people saw and people recognized. They might not 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.879 pick up on it. And immediately. But I did a 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:05.040 few commercials that were nationals that played a lot on 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.080 you know, Saturday Morning cartoons and things like that, and. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.879 What isn't one of them a Cereal commercial? 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:13.800 I don't remember Cereal. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:15.480 I think maybe I. 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:19.480 Did a commercial for Starburst that was maybe that's what. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:23.439 But I remember I remember definitely seeing you on commercials. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:25.800 I might have done Cereal. I don't know. I hawked 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.960 a lot of products, but I don't remember what. I 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.400 was lulling in my hand on the green screen, going 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:37.480 oh delicious, it's interchangeable. I forget been anything. Yeah, but 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:42.800 uh you know, and so yeah, I had been recognized 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:46.520 and the kids in my school started to pick up 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.879 on it when I would be gone for days or 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.320 or weeks at a time or something like that. But 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.959 Full House was a game changer in that, uh you know. 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:02.200 I liked to fly under the radar a bit, and 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.680 I did so up until Friday night or Friday afternoon 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:12.239 when I left school, and then Full House aired, and 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:19.280 then Monday, things have changed, like a lot of all 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:24.000 of a sudden, I was having difficulty flying under the radar. 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:25.879 A lot of people wanted to talk to me about it, 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.040 and some are nice about it, some were not. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:33.639 It sounds like seventh grade. 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:39.960 Yeah, yeah. At the time, I unfortunately focused too much 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:46.879 on the on the negative, which you know, looking I 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.000 wish I didn't. But as hard as a kid, you 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:50.199 know ten, people will say we. 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.600 Want what kid doesn't, Right, that's all you want is 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:56.400 to fit in. So anything that makes you and kids 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.000 are middle schoolers, are you say, are they are cruel? 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:00.600 Ruthless? 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.119 They should go to a little island and be you know, 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.640 like it's they're just they're hard. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.760 Yeah, and they're hard on each other. And yeah, except 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.399 middle school, seventh grade was not. That was not an 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.280 easy time for I think any of us as kid actors. 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:21.040 Yeah, it made things difficult a little bit. So, yeah, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.600 it came so fast. I didn't I didn't know how 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.479 to deal with it. I didn't know how to navigate that. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:29.240 Uh So. 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.760 I think, you know, unfortunately I kind of ended up 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:37.080 distancing myself from it because I wasn't sure how somebody, 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.520 you know, I didn't know how the conversation was going 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.960 to go. I was skeptical and a little standoffish. So 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.440 a lot of the time when people would ask are 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.240 you that kid, my answer would be no, and I 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:51.960 would just try to kind of remove myself yet, right, Yeah, 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.040 And so I mean, you know, it was what it was, 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.640 and most of it was positive, but you know, you're 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:03.280 ten and we do it today. You know, we could 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.680 post something online and you have a hundred positive comments, 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:08.200 but you're gonna do all that one. 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.760 I literally did that the other day, all these nice 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.440 things and one stupid person and I was like getting 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:16.399 in the shower and I was like, why. 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:17.760 Didn't they sit? And I was like, oh my god, 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:19.240 I'm giving that attention. 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.199 Yeah, and I was like and I was like, no, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.639 all of the nice things, but yeah, we tend to 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:25.760 focus on the negative. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:26.479 And it's it is. 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.480 It's hard as a kid because those are like such 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:31.679 our formative years that it really sort of makes you 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.439 it throws a wrench in like sort of normal growing 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.720 up times. 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:44.040 There's something particularly difficult about playing a character that's a 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.560 little more obnoxious. And I can relate to this because 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.480 people come up to you as a kid and say 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:51.960 you're so annoying, right, And it's hard not to it's 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.280 hard not to internalize that. I know, it's a compliment 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.480 if they say I'm annoying, that means I did my job. 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.360 But as a seventh grader, you're like, I don't want 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:02.639 to hear that. I don't want to hear peers. 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:02.719 Telling me that. 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:04.879 So I can see why that would be more of 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.480 a negative experience for you being even. 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.760