Speaker 1: Hey there, Fana Ritos.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to an all new episode of How Rude
Speaker 2: Tanner Ritos. Today, we're interviewing a guest star who will
Speaker 2: always hold a special place in our hearts, whether it's
Speaker 2: because of the pure chaos he brought to these storylines
Speaker 2: or because he was Jody Sweeten's first on screen kiss.
Speaker 2: Jordan Christopher Michael, also known as Rusty, will remain a
Speaker 2: huge part of the full House legacy forever, and we
Speaker 2: can't wait to talk to him today.
Speaker 1: So let's get this interview started.
Speaker 3: I apologize in advance. I'm not a.
Speaker 4: Don't apologize weirdy by.
Speaker 3: Stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that did stuff. That's all you got to do.
Speaker 1: We can hear you, we can see you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, we every We've been doing this podcast
Speaker 5: now for a considerable amount of time, and it feels
Speaker 5: like almost every week, Uh, one of us forgets how
Speaker 5: to do something.
Speaker 1: It's always don't.
Speaker 3: I haven't zoomed since COVID, so as you can see,
Speaker 3: I opened up the link and then my ladies thing
Speaker 3: popped up.
Speaker 4: You know what, Hey what you made it?
Speaker 5: So to be fair, we have interviewed, uh, some octogenarians
Speaker 5: on our show that we're writers and so if they
Speaker 5: can make it through zoom, can you.
Speaker 1: We're not worried about you.
Speaker 4: We're not worried about it. And also just so you know,
Speaker 4: we just start kind of we just jump right in.
Speaker 5: We just start like the interview now, so we're rolling,
Speaker 5: so like now, good to see you again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good to see you both?
Speaker 1: How od Yes? Y?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen you since the Full House days,
Speaker 2: but you and Jody reunited a little more recently than that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to do the Hollywood Darlings episode and.
Speaker 5: Oh it was so fun and it was you know,
Speaker 5: the whole thing was about like that I kept having
Speaker 5: failed relationships, so like why don't I you know what,
Speaker 5: maybe I should get hooked back up with Rusty like
Speaker 5: he was my first kiss. Maybe I should should find
Speaker 5: out what he's doing. Yeah, so that was like the
Speaker 5: whole premise of the Ridiculous show.
Speaker 3: I believe I was a Yes, I was a tattoo artist.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: What did you think when you got that phone call
Speaker 2: to come back and talk about your days, Rusty?
Speaker 1: Like what that must have been like it's been so long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought that was super cool. It was. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was fun and it seemed like such a fun show,
Speaker 3: so I look forward to being on it. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: the whole premise of it just it's it's like everybody's dream.
Speaker 3: You just you you get to work with your friends, yeah,
Speaker 3: and just make a show. And it seemed like you
Speaker 3: had a lot of creative leeway on.
Speaker 5: It, so we have I mean, it was all it
Speaker 5: was an all improv show, so it was like you knew,
Speaker 5: you know, sort of it's like a curb your enthusiasm,
Speaker 5: and you're right.
Speaker 4: It was really fun. Christinelake and Beverly Mitchell and I had.
Speaker 5: A blast because it was like, go for it, whatever
Speaker 5: you want to do, and I was like, yeah, like
Speaker 5: like anything, I could say anything I wanted. Although we
Speaker 5: did get a note at one point they were like.
Speaker 4: Could she maybe just just a little less?
Speaker 5: And I was like, you said, you gave me permission.
Speaker 5: But it was fun. Yeah, we were Yeah, we were
Speaker 5: in that uh that little tattoo shop over over in
Speaker 5: like North Hollywood there.
Speaker 4: I tried to buy it every once in a while. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So we've been watching obviously the show going back
Speaker 5: to the original, but I forgot that Rusty was in.
Speaker 4: So many episodes like you did four right, four?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, there was, yeah, four in total. I think
Speaker 3: that sounds right.
Speaker 2: We've we've just gotten those episodes too. So we've seen
Speaker 2: the Secret love Letter episode and then the first episode
Speaker 2: where you were playing pranks on everyone with the dining
Speaker 2: room table.
Speaker 1: So those are the two we've seen so far.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I will say the Secret Admirer one is
Speaker 5: is fans favorite episode?
Speaker 1: Top rated?
Speaker 3: It's a I think that's a good episode. I always like,
Speaker 3: I always liked how that how that episode went. It
Speaker 3: felt it felt a little different, I guess in that
Speaker 3: I just kind of like how they structured it. It was,
Speaker 3: you know, usually everybody's kind of splintered as their own
Speaker 3: thing going on, and this was kind of one through
Speaker 3: line of this letter for sure, wreaking havoc on everybody,
Speaker 3: and it just followed that little path, and I always
Speaker 3: thought that was kind of cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are my favorite types of storylines where everyone's
Speaker 2: involved in that through line.
Speaker 3: Like you said, yeah, I had that kind of like
Speaker 3: you know, say, kind of version of a of a
Speaker 3: you know, kind of a who done it? A little
Speaker 3: bit of a mystery passing through the house. And yeah,
Speaker 3: that that one was a lot of fun to do.
Speaker 3: I mean, they were all fun to do, but that
Speaker 3: one stood out because people seem to really like that. Mmm.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's people. People loved your character. People loved Rusty.
Speaker 5: They thought he was like such a great sort of
Speaker 5: Dennis the Menace, uh foil to the Three Girls, you.
Speaker 3: Know, uh yeah, some some some didn't. And they let
Speaker 3: me know. I got letters, you.
Speaker 1: Know, oh really really fan letters about about Rusty.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it fan letter. Yes, some fan letters
Speaker 3: about Rusty, but I I also you know, there were
Speaker 3: people out there that didn't. They were very i think
Speaker 3: very protective of the casting that they were familiar with.
Speaker 3: And then this nightmare comes in, you know, causing all
Speaker 3: this havoc, and there was a you know, there's a
Speaker 3: certain amount of like, how dare you kind of kind
Speaker 3: of a thing. So it wasn't everybody's favorite, but you know,
Speaker 3: enough it was cool and if and if you didn't
Speaker 3: like it, then I mean that was also kind of.
Speaker 5: The point either of, right, right, that was kind of yeah,
Speaker 5: you didn't really want to like Rusty too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was somewhere in the middle. There were likable
Speaker 3: things and there were dislikable things, so I get it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there were a few people that really didn't
Speaker 3: like it and they let me so it was fun.
Speaker 3: It was a bit of an adventure for a minute.
Speaker 2: Those are the people that have parasocial relationships with the cast.
Speaker 1: Members on the show.
Speaker 2: There's like, no, that's my family that you're playing on, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I mean I get it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean we all get a little protective
Speaker 5: of people. But do you remember auditioning for the show?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 5: What was it like, like, did you watch it already
Speaker 5: or were you okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely watched the show. I was a big
Speaker 3: TGIF fan at the time. I don't remember the exact lineup.
Speaker 3: It changed a few times, but I feel like by
Speaker 3: the time I got involved, it was like season three
Speaker 3: or four, so yeah, it was established. It was. It
Speaker 3: was a hit. I think maybe you know, it was
Speaker 3: probably step by step following it or something like that.
Speaker 3: It was a good night of television for ten twelve
Speaker 3: year old however I was at the time.
Speaker 4: How old were you when you did the show?
Speaker 3: I feel like it was like ninety ninety one or
Speaker 3: something like that, So yeah, ten, ten eleven something like
Speaker 3: that seventh grade. I think it was seventh grade for.
Speaker 4: Me, okay, okay, yeah, because I feel like you were
Speaker 4: like a couple.
Speaker 5: You were like a couple of years older than I was.
Speaker 5: I think at the time, two years. Yeah, I was
Speaker 5: gonna say, I think you were like two years older
Speaker 5: than me. Yeah, which, of course then is like you're
Speaker 5: like we're world's apart.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I
Speaker 3: remember getting the call and being super excited because it
Speaker 3: was a show I watched and it was a show
Speaker 3: I liked, and so super cool opportunity. But you know,
Speaker 3: thinking back to those days of how we used to
Speaker 3: do it with casting, it was, you know, it was
Speaker 3: a daily trek to l a and so the only
Speaker 3: way to survive at that age was to have it
Speaker 3: instilled upon yourself that you go on the audition, doesn't
Speaker 3: matter what it's for, however much you want it, you
Speaker 3: just got to get it out of your mind as
Speaker 3: soon as soon as you leave and have no attachments
Speaker 3: to anything. So super excited, let it go. God. I
Speaker 3: don't remember if there was a callback or something, but
Speaker 3: I remember going in reading with Deborah and that probably
Speaker 3: was a callback. When they were matching us up. And
Speaker 3: that went really well because a lot of the people
Speaker 3: at the casting office were asking if you know that
Speaker 3: was in fact my mom.
Speaker 1: And oh that's always good, right, You're like, oh, yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, significantly more related than me and my actual mom actually, right,
Speaker 3: So yeah, it worked out. It worked out good. And
Speaker 3: then yeah, that was super exciting when they called and said, hey,
Speaker 3: I want you to do the show. That was you know,
Speaker 3: I definitely remember that. It was one of the larger
Speaker 3: things I had done at that point by a good amount.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was a super.
Speaker 5: What other what what other stuff had you done before
Speaker 5: Full House at the time? Had you been working as
Speaker 5: a kid actor for a while or was it like
Speaker 5: relatively new.
Speaker 3: Or I should have googled myself before this. I don't remember.
Speaker 4: I don't You're like, I don't know the day years.
Speaker 4: I don't know how old I was, right.
Speaker 3: I don't remember exactly what the timeline I had done.
Speaker 3: I think by that point I had done a few
Speaker 3: kind of one off episodes of like Matt Locke. I
Speaker 3: had done a lot of commercials by that point, and
Speaker 3: it was where you're at that age, you know, you
Speaker 3: start theater commercials, then your agent starts looking at like
Speaker 3: television and film and stuff like that. So I was
Speaker 3: just getting into the television part, and I think I
Speaker 3: had maybe done matt Lock before that and a few
Speaker 3: other a lot of.
Speaker 5: Pilots ear back in the day when yeah, they used
Speaker 5: to just shoot pilots and be like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: let's see how it does.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like it was at that point where
Speaker 3: there was a lot of new found success with stand ups,
Speaker 3: and so I remember going through a phase where I
Speaker 3: was playing a stand up comedian's son or something on
Speaker 3: a regular basis. There were a lot of those pilots
Speaker 3: that didn't that didn't work out.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that was originally supposed to be
Speaker 5: the plot of Full House, was that it was three
Speaker 5: comedians comics House of Comics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was something about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff was about that. Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 5: In the eighties it was everyone wanted to do stand up.
Speaker 5: Now everyone wants to be an Instagram influencer.
Speaker 3: So yeah, me too. Yeah, do you.
Speaker 4: Still get do you ever get recognized by people?
Speaker 3: I don't get recognized as no, not not not in
Speaker 3: a while, but people people definitely they remember that if if,
Speaker 3: if it ever comes up that, oh, when you know
Speaker 3: you've done done these parts and what I remember you from,
Speaker 3: Like that's an easy go to, right And amazingly a
Speaker 3: lot of people remember those episodes still to this day.
Speaker 3: So it's syndicated everywhere. There's a new audience finding it
Speaker 3: all the time. It's shot legs. It's amazing. So I've
Speaker 3: run into people that are, you know, significantly younger, that
Speaker 3: have just discovered the show and are going through it.
Speaker 3: They're watching that, they're watching Fuller House, they're a big fan,
Speaker 3: so it's like fresh in their mind. And yeah, but no,
Speaker 3: nobody's coming up to me at the grocery store or
Speaker 3: anything like that.
Speaker 4: Just for the best, I'm going to do it now.
Speaker 5: I'm going to just find out wherever you live and
Speaker 5: just show at your grocery store and be like.
Speaker 3: That's that rest. That's fine. Yeah, I think there's like
Speaker 3: ten people that live in this town or something like that.
Speaker 5: So I think I'm okay, what part of what part
Speaker 5: of the country you went? You don't have to give
Speaker 5: us like your address or anything, but just like where
Speaker 5: where have I.
Speaker 3: Split my time? I still have a place in Long
Speaker 3: Beach and then the rest of the time I'm Mountain, Michigan.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, like Dave, yeah is out there in I
Speaker 6: don't know exactly where he's at, but yeah, somewhere in
Speaker 6: to his house.
Speaker 1: He's by a lake.
Speaker 4: If that helps, okay, just say yeah, I'll find him.
Speaker 5: Did you like, did you work a lot after the
Speaker 5: show or were you like how long did you continue
Speaker 5: sort of child actor careering?
Speaker 4: That's not even a word?
Speaker 3: What did it? Was? It? Sure?
Speaker 1: Make it a ver?
Speaker 3: I continued for a while.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: The full House thing definitely opened up some some new doors.
Speaker 3: I got to do a handful of shows. I think
Speaker 3: that I I kind of even got to like fast
Speaker 3: track the audition process because they were kind of doing
Speaker 3: the same thing. So full House led to like Saved
Speaker 3: by the Bell I did. I did a few features,
Speaker 3: not necessarily because of that, but it you know, you're.
Speaker 4: An easier it gets more work.
Speaker 5: You know, every time you add more credits, they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: you're doing right.
Speaker 3: So you're only as hot as the last thing you did,
Speaker 3: of course, and and and full House was huge, So
Speaker 3: it did open up a lot of doors, and I
Speaker 3: got to do some some more cool stuff and and
Speaker 3: you know, I kind of realized that I had started
Speaker 3: in this industry to work behind the camera. I just
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that at that age. I didn't realize
Speaker 3: there were so many people behind the scenes. I just
Speaker 3: saw Star Wars, Yeah I want to do this, and
Speaker 3: I assumed it was the actors that just made everything
Speaker 3: happen somehow. So, you know, I never really left, but
Speaker 3: I stopped acting, you know, somewhere in my teens, and
Speaker 3: then now I just do I do smaller things as
Speaker 3: they as they come up.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think a lot so many people
Speaker 5: that start as kid actors in this business really do
Speaker 5: eventually move behind the camera because it does become You're like,
Speaker 5: I'm just so familiar with this, but like I don't
Speaker 5: need to be in front, but what happens sort of
Speaker 5: behind it now, you know.
Speaker 4: And it's I think.
Speaker 5: Once you once you have a taste of this business,
Speaker 5: and if you have a good experience with it, which
Speaker 5: it sounds like, you know, wasn't a horrific experience for
Speaker 5: you that you know most of the time, you're like,
Speaker 5: I actually I really like being on set. I just
Speaker 5: feel at home there. Yes, yeah, the controlled chaos, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I really like the process. From script to screen.
Speaker 3: Everything involved almost is very appealing to me. And you know,
Speaker 3: I still like the acting element of it. It's you know,
Speaker 3: it's just being a kid as an adult and getting
Speaker 3: a way to play you know, space marines or pirates
Speaker 3: or cowboys or whatever you're doing as a child in
Speaker 3: your backyard with your friends. Well, now you get to
Speaker 3: do that as an adult. And there's something really neat
Speaker 3: about that. Uh. But I wasn't super comfortable with like
Speaker 3: being recognized and and things like that. That didn't quite
Speaker 3: work for me. So you know, I still wanted to
Speaker 3: be a part of the process, but I you know,
Speaker 3: I didn't need to be the one on the screen.
Speaker 5: Did you get recognized after you did played Rusty on
Speaker 5: those episodes? Like, did you get recognized out sort of
Speaker 5: in the world a lot?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What would people say?
Speaker 2: What was like the go to what What would they
Speaker 2: say to you when they came up to you, Hey,
Speaker 2: are you that kid that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Just punch in the face. I hope not.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it was one of those things
Speaker 3: where you know, I had definitely I've done stuff previous
Speaker 3: that that people saw and people recognized. They might not
Speaker 3: pick up on it. And immediately. But I did a
Speaker 3: few commercials that were nationals that played a lot on
Speaker 3: you know, Saturday Morning cartoons and things like that, and.
Speaker 4: What isn't one of them a Cereal commercial?
Speaker 3: I don't remember Cereal.
Speaker 4: I think maybe I.
Speaker 3: Did a commercial for Starburst that was maybe that's what.
Speaker 5: But I remember I remember definitely seeing you on commercials.
Speaker 3: I might have done Cereal. I don't know. I hawked
Speaker 3: a lot of products, but I don't remember what. I
Speaker 3: was lulling in my hand on the green screen, going
Speaker 3: oh delicious, it's interchangeable. I forget been anything. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: uh you know, and so yeah, I had been recognized
Speaker 3: and the kids in my school started to pick up
Speaker 3: on it when I would be gone for days or
Speaker 3: or weeks at a time or something like that. But
Speaker 3: Full House was a game changer in that, uh you know.
Speaker 3: I liked to fly under the radar a bit, and
Speaker 3: I did so up until Friday night or Friday afternoon
Speaker 3: when I left school, and then Full House aired, and
Speaker 3: then Monday, things have changed, like a lot of all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, I was having difficulty flying under the radar.
Speaker 3: A lot of people wanted to talk to me about it,
Speaker 3: and some are nice about it, some were not.
Speaker 1: It sounds like seventh grade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. At the time, I unfortunately focused too much
Speaker 3: on the on the negative, which you know, looking I
Speaker 3: wish I didn't. But as hard as a kid, you
Speaker 3: know ten, people will say we.
Speaker 5: Want what kid doesn't, Right, that's all you want is
Speaker 5: to fit in. So anything that makes you and kids
Speaker 5: are middle schoolers, are you say, are they are cruel?
Speaker 3: Ruthless?
Speaker 4: They should go to a little island and be you know,
Speaker 4: like it's they're just they're hard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're hard on each other. And yeah, except
Speaker 5: middle school, seventh grade was not. That was not an
Speaker 5: easy time for I think any of us as kid actors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it made things difficult a little bit. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: it came so fast. I didn't I didn't know how
Speaker 3: to deal with it. I didn't know how to navigate that.
Speaker 2: Uh So.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, unfortunately I kind of ended up
Speaker 3: distancing myself from it because I wasn't sure how somebody,
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know how the conversation was going
Speaker 3: to go. I was skeptical and a little standoffish. So
Speaker 3: a lot of the time when people would ask are
Speaker 3: you that kid, my answer would be no, and I
Speaker 3: would just try to kind of remove myself yet, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And so I mean, you know, it was what it was,
Speaker 3: and most of it was positive, but you know, you're
Speaker 3: ten and we do it today. You know, we could
Speaker 3: post something online and you have a hundred positive comments,
Speaker 3: but you're gonna do all that one.
Speaker 5: I literally did that the other day, all these nice
Speaker 5: things and one stupid person and I was like getting
Speaker 5: in the shower and I was like, why.
Speaker 4: Didn't they sit? And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm giving that attention.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was like and I was like, no,
Speaker 5: all of the nice things, but yeah, we tend to
Speaker 5: focus on the negative.
Speaker 4: And it's it is.
Speaker 5: It's hard as a kid because those are like such
Speaker 5: our formative years that it really sort of makes you
Speaker 5: it throws a wrench in like sort of normal growing
Speaker 5: up times.
Speaker 2: There's something particularly difficult about playing a character that's a
Speaker 2: little more obnoxious. And I can relate to this because
Speaker 2: people come up to you as a kid and say
Speaker 2: you're so annoying, right, And it's hard not to it's
Speaker 2: hard not to internalize that. I know, it's a compliment
Speaker 2: if they say I'm annoying, that means I did my job.
Speaker 2: But as a seventh grader, you're like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear that. I don't want to hear peers.
Speaker 1: Telling me that.
Speaker 2: So I can see why that would be more of
Speaker 2: a negative experience for you being even.
Speaker 1: Though rusties beloved, he's a menace.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So, oh yeah, he's an year I could. I totally understand.
Speaker 3: I'm very sympathetic to it. I would have hated that kid. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so yeah, it absolutely made sense. I just didn't, you know,
Speaker 3: I was at that age where I didn't quite realize
Speaker 3: the repercussions of that. I thought, you know, I kind
Speaker 3: of playing a villain, like that's awesome, that's super fun.
Speaker 3: From from an actor's standpoint, that's great, you have a
Speaker 3: lot to work with. I had not realized that there's
Speaker 3: a percentage of the population out there that cannot separate
Speaker 3: character on television from real life. So yeah, that was alarming.
Speaker 3: But it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. Most people were cool,
Speaker 3: So it wasn't like it was that big of a deal.
Speaker 3: It's just, you know, it was just one of those
Speaker 3: things that happened that I can't imagine YouTube had to
Speaker 3: go through with this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely challenging.
Speaker 5: But you know, it's at least for me, and I
Speaker 5: think maybe for Andrea too, because you started when you
Speaker 5: were really little. I don't really have much of a
Speaker 5: memory of a time before.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 4: I don't so it's like at sometimes it's like I never.
Speaker 5: Had I never knew what anonymity was like to lose it, yeah,
Speaker 5: because I never really we never really had it.
Speaker 2: You know, people will ask you what was it like
Speaker 2: growing up on a sitcom, and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: know any differently, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I had fun.
Speaker 1: That was my childhood. Yeah, so I don't know any different.
Speaker 3: How old when you started on the show.
Speaker 2: I was ten when I started Full House, but I
Speaker 2: started acting at age five, and Jody two.
Speaker 4: Started I was I was five when I art an
Speaker 4: on Full House.
Speaker 2: Wow, so we don't I don't have many memories from
Speaker 2: before age five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like four and a half I think
Speaker 5: when I did Valerie. So yeah, like four and a
Speaker 5: half I started, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just seems normal, like you're on a set,
Speaker 3: you're dealing with all ski that's real life, right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: Your family, and that's what I mean like when I
Speaker 5: I can any set that I walk onto, whether I'm
Speaker 5: shooting it or just visiting a friend.
Speaker 4: On it or not, like it feels like home, as
Speaker 4: I spent.
Speaker 5: More time in that environment than I probably did at
Speaker 5: home a lot of the time. And so it was
Speaker 5: like that just the smell of a sound stage that
Speaker 5: you know, all of those things, the red light, you know.
Speaker 1: The automatical quiet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's home.
Speaker 5: And so I do think that there's a part of
Speaker 5: that that we all sort of stay attached to, you know,
Speaker 5: becomes part of who we are now.
Speaker 4: We learned something fascinating.
Speaker 5: We just had Deborah on the show Cindy your mom,
Speaker 5: Cindy Cool, and uh, did you know that you guys
Speaker 5: were supposed to become like part of the cast that
Speaker 5: Cindy and Danny were.
Speaker 4: They were setting them up to like get married.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh you do that. Yeah, we didn't.
Speaker 4: Know this, We never knew.
Speaker 1: We had no idea.
Speaker 5: Well, she dropped a bomb on us the other day
Speaker 5: and we were like, wait, wo okay, okay, yeah, tell
Speaker 5: us everything.
Speaker 3: Did you So?
Speaker 2: Were you excited about this or maybe you didn't want
Speaker 2: this to happen because of all the crap you were
Speaker 2: getting at school from all the kids.
Speaker 3: No, I was fine with it, that's yeah, No, I
Speaker 3: I was. I was on board. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: sure you get you get weird comments from people every
Speaker 3: now and again, but like I can avoid that, that's fine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I signed.
Speaker 2: Up to.
Speaker 3: Do it.
Speaker 2: And uh, I think Deborah put her Deborah's people, her agents,
Speaker 2: I think put the Kebash on it because they were like, no,
Speaker 2: you need to broaden your right your skills and your
Speaker 2: you know, experience. It was like, no, a full time
Speaker 2: job being a seriously, this.
Speaker 4: Is work, right.
Speaker 5: But I do think I do think it would have
Speaker 5: sort of truncated the show because once Danny got married
Speaker 5: then it was although, you know whatever, Jesse and Becky
Speaker 5: and their twins are living in an attict but whatever.
Speaker 2: It would have been a different dynamic having Rusty living
Speaker 2: in the house as a step right that, I mean,
Speaker 2: how would that have changed the dynamic?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Particularly after Steph kissed him?
Speaker 1: That would have been yes, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, we have to talk about that.
Speaker 2: Should we start now or do you want to come
Speaker 2: back to it this kiss?
Speaker 1: The kiss?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we kiss now?
Speaker 2: A good time to ask about this because yeah, you
Speaker 2: know you were Jody's first on screen kiss ever, so.
Speaker 1: You set the bar.
Speaker 4: You set the bar.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you were for my first kiss
Speaker 5: ever because I like, again, I was two years younger
Speaker 5: than you.
Speaker 4: Uh so you know, but I remember.
Speaker 5: Uh I had I think I took a big.
Speaker 4: Bite of the onion and then I had to like
Speaker 4: kiss you.
Speaker 5: And I remember It's so funny like when you're rehearsing
Speaker 5: a scene where you actually do have to, like, you know,
Speaker 5: stage kiss somebody. I mean, and as kids, you're like,
Speaker 5: it's I could be kissing my grandmother.
Speaker 4: Uh but like.
Speaker 5: You do it, and when you're rehearsing, you're just like,
Speaker 5: and then and then we kiss, okay anyway, Like even
Speaker 5: as adults, you're like, this is just and then we
Speaker 5: do the thing and then back what what do you
Speaker 5: remember it like? Was it embarrassing? Were you like, oh
Speaker 5: my god.
Speaker 4: This is terrible.
Speaker 2: Be honest, JODI's you can't be honest.
Speaker 1: It's were you nervous, were excited? You know, your first kiss?
Speaker 3: It might have been. I feel like, uh yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't think I had done anything like that in any
Speaker 3: other shows. Are situations, and I certainly was. I wasn't
Speaker 3: quite a ladies man at you know ten, So I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was probably the same situation for me. I don't
Speaker 3: remember being particularly nervous or off put by it. It
Speaker 3: felt like it just kind of got lumped into this
Speaker 3: weird little category of things where if it's written and
Speaker 3: if there's professionals overseeing it, you just the nervousness kind
Speaker 3: of goes away. I just it was it was just
Speaker 3: a yeah, it was a part of the scene.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't remember feeling awkward about it. I
Speaker 3: might be remembering that incorrectly. I might have been.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I did.
Speaker 5: I think I was like, yeah, I think I was
Speaker 5: like nervous about it. But also, like all of us had,
Speaker 5: I mean, Andrea Candace, like we all have had basically
Speaker 5: our first like kisses on screen, and then your parents
Speaker 5: get to sit in the audience, and I think that's
Speaker 5: the weirder part about it.
Speaker 1: It is just like two hundred strangers watching.
Speaker 3: Sure, I you know what, I imagine that there was
Speaker 3: probably some apprehension that I'm forgetting about.
Speaker 1: You've repressed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But also I think it comes down to sort
Speaker 3: of how it was done and the whole premise being
Speaker 3: that you took a bite of this. It was a yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we used an apple that they peeled to
Speaker 3: do that, regardless.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't remember. I'm like, I don't remember what
Speaker 5: we even used.
Speaker 3: Pretty sure, I'm pretty sure they just peeled an apple
Speaker 3: and and and ran with that so that you could
Speaker 3: actually take a big bite out of it and you know,
Speaker 3: gag the the you know, if this was if if
Speaker 3: it was written differently, if it was presented in a
Speaker 3: different contact in a scene, I could understand that creating
Speaker 3: some uneasiness. But I was just supposed to react to
Speaker 3: this as though I was horrified, because you know, my
Speaker 3: characters just fully and talk and talk and talk, and
Speaker 3: he doesn't really want this to happen. He's just a
Speaker 3: pain in the right.
Speaker 4: He's just tormented.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so when you finally, you know, when you
Speaker 3: do it, it was you know, it's hard to call
Speaker 3: it a you know, an appropriate kiss. It was more
Speaker 3: of a kind of just go in there, and it was.
Speaker 5: Like it could have It's like it could have been
Speaker 5: a wall not but you know it's you're.
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, you just smasher lits together and and then
Speaker 7: I'm flailing around the whole time because oh god, girl,
Speaker 7: cooties gross you.
Speaker 5: Know right, that's right, because I like grab you sort
Speaker 5: of and yeah and like kiss you on the couch
Speaker 5: if I remember correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, freaking out to begin with. So you know, it
Speaker 3: wasn't that tender moment first kiss thing. It was. No,
Speaker 3: it was it was it was comedic.
Speaker 4: It was an attack. Let's call it what it was.
Speaker 1: It was an attack.
Speaker 3: It was the nineties.
Speaker 4: He could do that the night right, it was the nineties.
Speaker 4: It was fine.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I don't, I don't. I don't remember
Speaker 3: that being a being a big deal.
Speaker 2: So nobody gave you a pep talk, like any of
Speaker 2: the cast, older cast members, or dialogue coaches or because
Speaker 2: we got like Lori Lachlan would give some of us
Speaker 2: pep talks because we like, do you use tongue?
Speaker 4: Do you not?
Speaker 2: Like I didn't know, so Laurie's like, okay, here's the deal. No,
Speaker 2: no tongue, you just go in, go up. So yeah,
Speaker 2: nobod any pep talk.
Speaker 3: But nobody gave me those notes.
Speaker 4: But you were yeah, but but you you didn't need them.
Speaker 4: You were well behaved.
Speaker 5: But I think also it was like yours was a
Speaker 5: little more like a like a kid like he said,
Speaker 5: sort of that like this is the first kiss sort
Speaker 5: of moment. And mine was a little more of like
Speaker 5: a prank, so like yours had you had a little
Speaker 5: more of a moment like what do we do? Mine
Speaker 5: was just like I'm just gonna bite this apple and attack.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean it worked out well, Uh, it got It
Speaker 3: was a good reaction from the audience from that you
Speaker 3: know you you got, you got them so right? Yeah.
Speaker 4: Was that the last episode that they were on?
Speaker 3: No, No, there was one. So well, I'm not sure
Speaker 3: exactly how it all went down. I wasn't part of
Speaker 3: a lot of those conversations. But what I kind of
Speaker 3: suspected at the time when when when Deborah passed, I
Speaker 3: feel like they maybe we're trying out the well, is
Speaker 3: there a place for this guy without without the mom
Speaker 3: in the scenario. So the last episode I did, I
Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think ever was in it at all.
Speaker 3: I was just on your baseball.
Speaker 1: Team and that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and and looking back, it felt like
Speaker 3: maybe it was, you know, because could I because I
Speaker 3: had a scene with Bob and there where he was
Speaker 3: showing me how to you know, clean my uniform or
Speaker 3: you know, cleaning a baseball bat or something like that.
Speaker 3: He was doing his thing. And so you know, now,
Speaker 3: in in hindsight, I wonder was that them kind of
Speaker 3: seeing if there was a way that that that that
Speaker 3: dynamic could work, you know, having having Bob have an
Speaker 3: opportunity to have a you know, a sun type figure.
Speaker 4: Does that fit in the mail influence?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then uh, you know, I guess it didn't work.
Speaker 3: And and so yeah, that was the last one, but
Speaker 3: it was it was a different episode. I didn't I
Speaker 3: didn't do anything. You know, we went to the baseball game.
Speaker 3: I didn't cause any fires. I wasn't, you know, I
Speaker 3: was just I was just there. And and so I thought,
Speaker 3: you know, cool, that that could work, because that was
Speaker 3: my main question when it was presented that they were
Speaker 3: going to get married and continue on the storyline. I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't think that would work. I was all for it,
Speaker 3: but I didn't know how how you could do that,
Speaker 3: add that character.
Speaker 1: It would be a big change. Yeah, yeah, even change
Speaker 1: the whole dynamic.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And I didn't I didn't want to do that.
Speaker 3: You know, the show was how it was created, and
Speaker 3: and and that worked and this kid was a it
Speaker 3: was a tornado.
Speaker 5: So it really was.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 5: He was one of those kids that you meet and
Speaker 5: you're like, I kinda I kind of want to trick. Yeah,
Speaker 5: like I kind of just want to just casually check it.
Speaker 3: I mean, and especially in that at that age with
Speaker 3: that hair, like, yeah, that's a that's a slappable child.
Speaker 4: Your hair was amazing the way it was. It was
Speaker 4: just that slightly swept over like bowl cut. Basically it
Speaker 4: was great.
Speaker 3: Kind of a pre Beab, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It was. It was a pre Beabe. Yeah, yeah, a
Speaker 4: little bit. It was like not the shaggy sort of
Speaker 4: emo e version.
Speaker 3: But yeah, looking back, I'd forgotten that that that that
Speaker 3: it was like that.
Speaker 5: Yes, all of our moments, all of our best hair
Speaker 5: and outfit choices for the world to see.
Speaker 3: I mean, he definitely would have well, outside of needing
Speaker 3: a haircut, for sure, they would have had to tone
Speaker 3: it down so much. And and then at that point,
Speaker 3: like what what what is he doing? Like if it's
Speaker 3: not that character, like what do you what? What do
Speaker 3: you end up having?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: You know, the Danny character getting together with the Cindy character,
Speaker 3: like that makes sense, But the and like he's just
Speaker 3: got this nightmare of the child.
Speaker 2: That right, Yeah, it's kind of yeah, yeah, that that
Speaker 2: type of characters. I've said this before, that type of
Speaker 2: character is better in small doses because otherwise it becomes
Speaker 2: like the RCLE Show where it's all about this really
Speaker 2: eccentric character. So and we do know, we did learn
Speaker 2: that Rusty was acting out because he was mad about
Speaker 2: his parents divorce and he wanted his mom and dad
Speaker 2: to get back together. So I would hope that if
Speaker 2: your character had been a part of the regular.
Speaker 1: Cast, it would have toned down your we would have
Speaker 1: matured out of it.
Speaker 5: You would have not been such a nightmare. That also
Speaker 5: was like, but that was kind of the point.
Speaker 4: Of the character.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you're right, It's like it would change things
Speaker 5: quite a bit to like make him not that person anymore.
Speaker 5: And it's like, well, then he was kind of that
Speaker 5: was the reason he was in the episodes.
Speaker 4: Was is like the foil to the three girls.
Speaker 3: And then and then I started questioning, you know, so,
Speaker 3: so this character comes in, Now, he's got to he's
Speaker 3: got to come down significantly. He came in at eleven.
Speaker 3: He's got to normalize at some point. And then once
Speaker 3: he does like? What does he do? Like? Was the
Speaker 3: audience that they liked the character because he was just
Speaker 3: this absolute nightmare of a situation. And then what happens
Speaker 3: when he's not Is he is? Is he relevant to?
Speaker 3: Does he move the story along at any point?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: I was concerned with that, not enough to not want
Speaker 3: to do it, but it was definitely something on my mind,
Speaker 3: and you know, how would that work? But here we are.
Speaker 1: That's hey, at least you didn't have to make that decision.
Speaker 1: That was up to the higher ups. They get to
Speaker 1: they get to worry about that stuff.
Speaker 2: You just got to be there and have fun and
Speaker 2: play with all of us on set.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So you have been you've moved behind the camera. You
Speaker 5: said you've been directing, right, Yeah, So have you done
Speaker 5: a little bit of that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I did a lot of uh yeah, commercials,
Speaker 3: music videos. I started to dabble with some indie film stuff,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I really enjoy that that part of the
Speaker 3: process and being able to kind of, you know, get
Speaker 3: a little world going and then you know, kind of
Speaker 3: bring it to life. And yeah, I think that's really fun,
Speaker 3: especially in that Yeah, I like the creative aspect of it.
Speaker 3: I directed some commercials where it's like, you know, infomercial.
Speaker 5: Commercial, the product is the star, right, it's like, don't
Speaker 5: cover it your thumb, better not cover a word, a letter,
Speaker 5: an edge of it. You know, Barbie's got a Barbie
Speaker 5: is the story.
Speaker 3: There's weird, weird products in there. And I started to question,
Speaker 3: like what am I? What am I doing? And so yeah,
Speaker 3: so I tried to move into more of the narrative
Speaker 3: type typework and things like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, commercials are commercials are an odd beast. They're there.
Speaker 4: It's it's not like any other type of acting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's not you know, like it's you're there
Speaker 5: in service of a product, and you know, like it's
Speaker 5: really not about you. Yeah, unless you're you know, flow
Speaker 5: the insurance sales, which go hurt.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: Jordan, thank you so much for being on the show.
Speaker 5: It was really fun to have you on. And I
Speaker 5: can't believe that you knew information that we didn't know.
Speaker 4: They never told us. I mean, but I guess it.
Speaker 4: Really it would affect it. It would have affected you guys
Speaker 4: more so you needed to know. We didn't need to know.
Speaker 1: You needed to check your avails.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: It was it was I'd say at the time it
Speaker 3: was more of a rumor than an actual discussion. I
Speaker 3: think that like, like Deborah was the one who had
Speaker 3: to sit down with Jeff okay about that. Yeah, somehow
Speaker 3: it got to me, But it was more of a
Speaker 3: I think they were doing a carrot and the stick
Speaker 3: thing where it's like, if you if you behave yourself,
Speaker 3: we might bring you back kind of a thing. Right,
Speaker 3: So yeah, No, it wasn't a set in stone sort
Speaker 3: of a thing. But you know, it worked out the
Speaker 3: way it worked out.
Speaker 5: It's all good, right, And it's been it's been super
Speaker 5: fun getting to have some of the characters that like
Speaker 5: the audience so remembers and like loves or loves to
Speaker 5: hate on the show. So it you know, it's it's
Speaker 5: been really great.
Speaker 4: But I'm so glad that you got to join us today.
Speaker 5: Enjoy your your Michigan uh split, yes, with Long Beach.
Speaker 5: And it's probably if you're in Michigan, it's probably much
Speaker 5: colder there than it is here.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's snowing Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, it's definitely not snowing here. It's great yeather,
Speaker 5: it's like it's weirdly spring like, so I would say
Speaker 5: go enjoy your lovely Michigan day.
Speaker 4: But I will say go stay warm and your lovely
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: So much for having me. It's so great.
Speaker 1: Thanks you so good to see you. Great to see
Speaker 1: you too. Take care and thank you so much. Take
Speaker 1: care bye bye.
Speaker 2: That was so fun united, so great.
Speaker 1: Gosh, I wouldn't have recognized him.
Speaker 4: No, I don't like hair.
Speaker 1: The hair really dominates.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that hair, sort of that like kind of reddish
Speaker 5: mop of hair. Yes, it was very eighties early nineties,
Speaker 5: it really was. He just needed like a member's only jacket,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And that's like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was really fun.
Speaker 4: It was really fun.
Speaker 5: And like it's so funny because I I like, I
Speaker 5: remember him too, like so not being at all like Rusty.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It's sort of like you are not at all like Kimmy.
Speaker 5: Uh And I remember, Yeah, he's just so much more
Speaker 5: quiet and sort of like he was, you know, more
Speaker 5: easygoing or whatever. But he did such a great job
Speaker 5: playing Rusty. It was really fun character.
Speaker 2: No, he seems like a real deep thinker, like always
Speaker 2: more mature than his his real age. Like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have expected that out of the Rusty character. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that was really cool to reconnect. Now we've both reconnected
Speaker 2: with our first stage kiss.
Speaker 4: Oh that's true, our first our first stage kiss.
Speaker 2: Look at us, go look at us, everybody, Lane, Hey,
Speaker 2: you know we are blessed.
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Speaker 4: but the house is full. Of bowl cuts.
Speaker 5: It's full of bowl cuts just everywhere, just just little
Speaker 5: mops of hair all over the place.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's come back in style, you know this night.
Speaker 2: It's all these styles just keep coming back.
Speaker 4: It's true. Yeah there, yeah, a little like mop moppet hairstyle.
Speaker 1: We can thank Justin Bieber.
Speaker 4: Bye bye