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Speaker 1: of nobody. Here's Paul Calvic all right. So anyone else

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Speaker 1: using the Cardinals game plan to this season for their

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Speaker 1: own holiday shopping? That is a question. Off the top

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Speaker 1: I'm making a late push, guys, just like the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: making a late push. Got behind a little bit. I've

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Speaker 1: strung together a couple of wins here. I still need

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Speaker 1: to finish strong. I think the Polly probability is in

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Speaker 1: my favor. I will get it done and it will

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Speaker 1: get me into next season if you will, the postseason.

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Speaker 1: But there is one big challenge left. Just like the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: the big challenge looms of the Rams and they've gone

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Speaker 1: winless against Sean McVay. I still have the big one

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Speaker 1: out there that's looming, a gift for the wife, and

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Speaker 1: so it's out there, the big one the week seventeen,

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Speaker 1: that could you determine my playoff future around here at

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Speaker 1: Cosa KALVICI anybody else with me on this plan? I

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Speaker 1: gotta be honest, Paul. When you first brought that up,

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Speaker 1: I misinterpreted. I'm thinking, what are you going to run

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Speaker 1: this own read at target like to get the right

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Speaker 1: you know, check out lets five. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: how how is that gonna exactly? You're throwing the back

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Speaker 1: shoulder fade to your son while you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: the gift certificates. If I have to re enact my

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Speaker 1: Leland High school days and that Ronnie Lott hit I

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Speaker 1: put on in the Gunderson game that they're still talking about,

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Speaker 1: I'll do it. I mean if it gets me through

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Speaker 1: the express lane. I'll read define express lane if they

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Speaker 1: need me to. When you when you say they're still

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Speaker 1: talking about it, you mean you're still talking about a right.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Don't don't make me go, Uncle Rico. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's a holiday season. I'm already. That's already my New

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Speaker 1: Year's resolution. Okay, no Uncle Rico out there. My goodness.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering does it count as a late push

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Speaker 1: if this is the schedule every single year since nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty six, I mean, I think the I think the

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Speaker 1: regular season has been moved. For you, Paul, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a ten ten day window before Christmas. Is the entire season? Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just the football season in general. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: yours truly tends to get behind. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Apparently I don't have as much vacation time at my

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Speaker 1: affording him more than ample time to do all his

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Speaker 1: holiday shopping while somebody has to hold up the fort. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: with that in mind, gentlemen, the Cardinals do look like

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Speaker 1: they have it in gear and cale did I see

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Speaker 1: the math? Right? They do have a chance mathematically potentially

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Speaker 1: to clinch a playoffs spot here in week sixteen before

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Speaker 1: year ever after worry about hashtag bat la. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: have a chance. If the Cardinals win and the Bears lose,

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Speaker 1: then the Cardinals are into the playoffs. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are favored and they're expected to kind of

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Speaker 1: that is now having CJ. Bethard at quarterback. But the

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Speaker 1: problem is Chicago is playing Jacksonville, the second worst team

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Speaker 1: The d and d hot stood for dang, what a

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny when you bring up the touchdown

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Speaker 1: Should they beginning him more targets? I think it's hard

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Speaker 1: you got. Oh it's America, Darren, more and more and more.

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Speaker 1: We want more of everything. It's just the way it

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Speaker 1: whether you have two Pro bowlers we're talking about or not,

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Speaker 1: people just want more. It's inherently the way. Or get

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Speaker 1: it up. And it's our DNA, you know, honestly, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: amazing transformation. I really, I'm so ashamed of myself and

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Speaker 1: more analytics. Lost as a human being, right now, is

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Speaker 1: there an analytic or contested catches contested catches? Because if

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Speaker 1: per snap that we were talking about with Guardex starting

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Speaker 1: d Hop Fits and Dan Arnold. And for everyone who

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Speaker 1: especially if you win a game, then you're gonna feel like, man,

429
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Speaker 1: this team is close, and I want to come back

430
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Speaker 1: and try to win a super Bowl. And I mean,

431
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of different factors. His decline

432
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Speaker 1: in production this season I think is a significant factor

433
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: now where he's been. I mean, last year he was

434
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 1: the team's leading receiver and this year is he's more

435
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: of a you know, third or fourth option, And so

436
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: how does that play into his thinking? How does that

437
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: play into the team's thinking. There's I feel like this

438
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: time around it's a lot different of a scenario than

439
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: it's been the last few years, when he's clearly still

440
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: been there number one or number two guy receiving wise.

441
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Speaker 1: And the funny thing is, though, when you look at

442
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Speaker 1: the cat I mean he's only he's third on the

443
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Speaker 1: team and catches, but he's only one fewer than Chase Edmonds.

444
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Speaker 1: I mean in terms of actually making catches. He's still

445
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: the number two guy in terms of the wide outs,

446
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Speaker 1: which I don't know how much that says about him

447
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Speaker 1: and how much it says about where the rest of

448
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: the wide outs are. But I mean, he can make

449
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Speaker 1: the argument that when they do go to him, he's

450
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: got it, you know, And he was the second leader

451
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Speaker 1: receiver when he went on the COVID list. And how

452
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: much attention does he still generating garner from opposing defensive

453
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: backfields just because he is Larry Legend and he's wearing

454
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Speaker 1: that number eleven. How much does that free up other guys?

455
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: How much has that been the key to the passing

456
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: game clicking the last couple of games with the return

457
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Speaker 1: of Larry And then yeah, you're right, Christian Kirk, what

458
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: is it? I think ten catches over the last four games.

459
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: So there hasn't been a lot of production there obviously,

460
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna try and continue to, you know, get

461
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Speaker 1: his production level up. So I just throw that out there,

462
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: and I'm going to keep an eye on Larry at

463
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Speaker 1: the end of the game. I don't know what that means.

464
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: We know Larry, he's not one for sentimentality or any

465
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Speaker 1: of that sort of pomp and circumstance, but I am

466
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: curious how he leaves that field on Saturday after the

467
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: Niners game. Well, we don't want to talk about it

468
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: too much right now, Paul, because we I mean, let's

469
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Speaker 1: face it, that's basically our podcast for the first three

470
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Speaker 1: weeks the offseason, usually Larry. So that's right, that's right.

471
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Speaker 1: We get, we get the plot map going, and we

472
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Speaker 1: start you know, tracking everything. You're right, and we get

473
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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and everything. So you know what, m I'll

474
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Speaker 1: tell you what. There was the image of Larry as

475
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Speaker 1: a lead blocker on the suite. Okay, that's a Bernie

476
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: image from that game, along with de Hop's touchdown catch,

477
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: Larry's touchdown catch, and then there's Dennis Gardeck, and there's

478
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Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck in his two sacks and other guys now

479
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: doing his sack dance hit the strobe. But there's also

480
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: the Dennis gardak and somebody tweeted it out us so

481
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Speaker 1: glad they did. But they actually clipped off the beginning

482
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Speaker 1: of it, where he's barnstorming mugging the a gap and

483
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: somebody hooks him from behind and basically horse cars him

484
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Speaker 1: and throws him almost entirely to the ground and it

485
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: was some sort of screen pass. So Boomy's in the

486
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: backfield on one knee after he got thrown down by

487
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: the horse car gets up and high tails it just

488
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Speaker 1: like he's on special teams and trying to chase down

489
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Speaker 1: a punt returner, and he did. He got the ball

490
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Speaker 1: carry after about a twenty yard game. Unbelievable motor. I

491
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Speaker 1: think Cliff Kingsbury cited it right with the media. He's

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Speaker 1: going to show that as a piece of game film.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, we don't know Dennis Gardak as of

494
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Speaker 1: this recording exactly where his status is going forward. All

495
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: we do know is he's made a heck of an

496
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Speaker 1: impression so far, has he not? Kyle Yeah, And there's

497
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Speaker 1: you know, there's try hard guys in the NFL that

498
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Speaker 1: are just a tech slow and as hard as they try,

499
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Speaker 1: they just can't make the plays. But one thing about

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Speaker 1: Dennis Cardeck is he's got really, really nice speed for

501
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Speaker 1: a linebacker, so he was able to track down receiver

502
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Speaker 1: in that scenario. The big question was him is he

503
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Speaker 1: big enough to be an edge rusher? And everybody thought, no,

504
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Speaker 1: he's listed at six foot I mean, is he even

505
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Speaker 1: six foot, and there aren't many sub six foot outside

506
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Speaker 1: linebackers in the NFL, so it was very natural to

507
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Speaker 1: wonder if he could do anything defensively. And the fact

508
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Speaker 1: that he got two sacks in the game where he

509
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Speaker 1: replaces Chandler Jones. He has seven on the season in

510
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: ninety three defensive snaps, which is just mind blowing. He

511
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Speaker 1: has more sacks than JJ Watt, Chase Young, DeMarcus Lawrence,

512
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Speaker 1: like all these elite edge rushers or pass rushers, and

513
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Speaker 1: Dennis Gardeck has more sacks than any of them. So yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: I mean, seeing him get carded off was not a

515
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: good thing, and usually you know, those can be very

516
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Speaker 1: serious injuries. Considering there's only two games left, you have

517
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: to wonder will he be back this season? You know,

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Speaker 1: hopefully for his sake, for the past rush's sake, we

519
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: see him again, but if not. I mean, it was

520
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: an incredible run for him to go from a special

521
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: team or an undrafted guy to all of a sudden,

522
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Speaker 1: this important piece on defense and pass rushing situations. It's

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Speaker 1: fascinating to me if you think about it, Paul. I mean,

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00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: even Vance Joseph admitted last week he was kind of

525
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: thinking oh crap. When Chandler Jones got hurt and we

526
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Speaker 1: sit here right now with two games to go, and

527
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Speaker 1: last season that the trio of Chandler Jones and Hassan

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Speaker 1: Reddick and Dennis Gardeck combined for twenty sacks, and this

529
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Speaker 1: year the trio of Chandler Jones and a son Reddick

530
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Speaker 1: and Dennis Gardeck have with two games left, have combined

531
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Speaker 1: from nineteen sacks. So for the the ability of these

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Speaker 1: two guys to fill in this production, and obviously Chandler

533
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: had nineteen sacks last year, but the point being they

534
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: were able to get this production that you there's no

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00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: way you could have predicted with Reddick and Gardeck, and

536
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Speaker 1: I just think it's a amazing And you talk about

537
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: the future and what they're gonna do money wise when

538
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: it comes to fits and all that stuff. That's another

539
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: one that we could probably spend a whole podcast on.

540
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, Chanlett Jones has got a year

541
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: left on his contract. Devon ka Nard's got two, and

542
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: he's an interesting case too. But Marcus Golden and Hassan

543
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: Raddock are both unrestricted free agents to be and Dennis

544
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: garda is a restricted free agent to be. So the

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00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: guys that have really gotten you through this time pass

546
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: rushing wise this season, they're all not under contract for

547
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: next year, and it's going to be very interesting to

548
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: see how the Cardinals play all that. I'll give you

549
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: a dramatic reenactment of the second half against the Eagles

550
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: for Paul pencil Neck. I'm there in the front row

551
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: and Guardak checks into the game, and I literally said

552
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: in my microphone or Jim almahndro off air, oh, guardacks in.

553
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: It's like I'm on the edge of my seat. I'm ready.

554
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: It's like I need the old school picture and picture.

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00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: I need Guardak in the sub picture. And so I'm

556
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: keeping half an eye on forty five. I'm watching the

557
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: play and he's coming off the right side of the

558
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Eagles old line, and I just looked it up. Matt Pryor,

559
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: who's the normal guard. He's their third string tackle. He's

560
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: listed to six seven three forty. Did you guys see

561
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: the image of Tiger Woods playing with his son. Yes.

562
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: The size difference would be if like Charlie was pass

563
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: rushing Eldric and Charlie's trying to pass rush Eldric and

564
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: he's trying to do this long arm stab and he's

565
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: got the arm up into the guy's shoulder pads and

566
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: he's getting completely swallowed up by Dad. Except this is

567
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: the six seven offensive lineman and just the imagery of it,

568
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: and somehow he sheds him and gets around him into

569
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: the backfield. How the pass is already gone, but just

570
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: watching him is highly entertaining. Dennis Gardex So I don't

571
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do, but he's sort of like

572
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: in basketball, Darren, like the Sons used to have those

573
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: fan favorites, right, like the guys like who would come

574
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: in and it'd just be like the rebounder guys and

575
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: fling themselves all over the court. He even reminds me

576
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: one of those fan favorites in basketball who just come

577
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: in as a power forward and just sort of be

578
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: the muscle and you just started giving guys elbows to

579
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: the chops. What's funny is is you talk about a

580
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: guy Gardeck being a fan favorite. It's it's like and

581
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: to kind of go a little son'sish if you're if

582
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: you're going to but but it's like you have this

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Speaker 1: fan favorite. It's like Lou Alminson and then all of

584
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: a sudden, you realize, you realize he's not Lou Alminson.

585
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: He's he's more like freaking Mark West, who can be

586
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: a starter and all of a sudden give you more

587
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: than you ever expected, uh, given given his his skill set,

588
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: and or Tyrone Tyrone Corbin for back in the day,

589
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: or one of these guys that, like you just weren't

590
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: expecting that, and hey, I you can't. There's nobody you

591
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: could root more for than again, these guys we talked about,

592
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: we talked about it last week. Whether it's Marcus Golden

593
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: or Dennis Gardeck or Hassan Reddick, these are the guys

594
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: you really root for to succeed. Maybe he's Dennis Rodman

595
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: minus the piercings and the tattoos. You I don't know's

596
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: if if you want to go with a Hoop's analogy,

597
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: here was the other guy who showed up and we

598
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: just kept tracking his stats during the game. And for

599
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: Zach Allen to end up with eleven tackles and a

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Speaker 1: sack and one and a half tackles for a loss

601
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: and a quarterback hit in a past defense, I think

602
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: I think it was Ken Summers who put it outside

603
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: a pro football reference Kyle that only three defensive linemans

604
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen have had eleven tackles or more in

605
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: a game, and Zach Allen's now one of them. Yeah,

606
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: his run defense throughout the entire game was super solid.

607
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Speaker 1: And I mean, you look at his draft pedigree. He's

608
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: had a lot of injuries, but he was the first

609
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: pick of the third round a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy that you do expect to be this uh,

611
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, kind of difference maker on that defensive line

612
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: because of the draft capital you spent on him. Hasn't

613
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: happened to this point. But you're right, that was a

614
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: great game for him. And it's funny seeing all the

615
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: guys that had big games in that one. And we're

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00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: talking about Hassan Redick and Dennis Gardeck and Zach Allen

617
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: when we thought it was gonna be Corey Peters and

618
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips and Chandler Jones and Devon Kannard. It's a

619
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: completely new group. But it's hard finding a more effective

620
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: group than we've seen the last two weeks with a

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00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: bunch of guys that we did not expect. I'll be

622
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 1: straight up with it, Zach Allen, great guy, but at

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Speaker 1: the end of last year and he had the neck

624
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: injury and he just didn't look right. Even when he

625
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: saw him in the locker room and he was kind

626
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: of you could tell, well, man, is he big enough,

627
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: is he strong enough? Is he fast enough? Now he's injured,

628
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: he had a heck of an off season because he

629
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: is bigger and stronger, and obviously his conditioning as such

630
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: that he was dominating. I don't know how many snaps

631
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Speaker 1: he played in that game, but didn't seem like he

632
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: came out a whole bunch and he had a heck

633
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: of a motor in that game. So, and he's exactly

634
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: what they need right now, Darren on that defensive front,

635
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: knock on wood because they're so banged up in there.

636
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips, now, Jordan Phillips is not oldible for the postseason.

637
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: Knock on wood A get him. The Cardinals go no,

638
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: because they put him on injured reserve for a second time.

639
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: And the rules are you can come back from injured reserve,

640
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: but if you go there for a second time, that's

641
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: it you get. It's a one time only thing. So

642
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: once they put him on injured reserve, the second time

643
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: they knew they were basically eliminating him from returning, and

644
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: then Isaiah Simmons was the other guy you had to

645
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: keep an eye on in that defense, right cowman, break

646
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: down the different positions he played, because remember we go

647
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: back to the preseason. Oh no, we're just gonna break

648
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: him in at one position hashtag sandbagging for everybody out

649
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: there around the rest of the NFL. That's probably faster

650
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: if I break down the positions he didn't play on defense,

651
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean just seeing him start at free

652
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: safety from the very first snap, he played there a lot,

653
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: and then you see I don't know if it was

654
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: in the first series or not, but in the first

655
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: quarter definitely he was at outside linebacker for snaps. And

656
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: that's definitely like the scouts dream of Isaiah Simmons, where

657
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: he's playing outside backer and safety and inside backer nickelback.

658
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he was, he was everywhere, and he didn't

659
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: have an outstanding game, but he showed that he can

660
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: play a lot of those different positions. He's clearly he

661
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: got a different type of speed and a different type

662
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: of length than your average football player. So I think

663
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: the ceiling for a guy like that is very high

664
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: and the fact that he did well in coverage. Pro

665
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Football Focus charged him with the thirty two yard bubble

666
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: screen touchdown, and it did look like he went the

667
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: wrong way on that, but certainly there were six guys

668
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: in the area that didn't make the tackle. Other than that,

669
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: they didn't say there was a completed pass against Isaiah

670
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: Simmons and thirty two coverage snaps, so he's doing a

671
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: nice job in coverage. He obviously has the type of

672
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: speed to track down running backs and quarterbacks. So yeah,

673
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: he had an impressive showing. I'd love to get an

674
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: answer on that, by the way, on that thirty two

675
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: yard wide receiver screen that hit the sideline, because Vans

676
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 1: Joseph had a long conversation with Drake Kirkpatrick after that

677
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: play on the sideline Darren and then I've seen Patrick

678
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: Peterson blamed by some analysts for that touchdown, but to

679
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: Kyle's point, they were probably we were about a half

680
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: dozen different guys over the course of that thing that

681
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: could have made a tackle. Yeah, I mean that play

682
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: was and let's not take away anything away from Watkins,

683
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: who made a fantastic move to get clear of everybody.

684
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean there was a lot of things that went

685
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: wrong on that particular play. It just it went to

686
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: a bigger thing where it feels like there's been a

687
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: couple of times defensively, not just against the Eagles, but

688
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: recent times where a team is facing third and super

689
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: long and I understand that you don't you play soft

690
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: a little bit because you don't want to give something

691
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: up over the top, but it feels like they're playing

692
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: so soft that you take it. It goes from third

693
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: and forever to fourth and manageable. And in this day

694
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: and age where teams are willing to go for it

695
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: on fourth and one, fourth and two, fourth and three,

696
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: I feel like defenses have to start thinking about that

697
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I mean, on that play, all

698
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: the Eagles were trying to do is get a little

699
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: bit closer for the field goal, and you got to

700
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: make sure you make it so that that play in

701
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: particular with that's where the touchdown might not fall into

702
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: this this thing, but it's been something that's kind of

703
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: weighing on me. It's like, you've got to make sure

704
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: that you you don't let a team get into a

705
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: fourth and three situation after it was third and twenty one,

706
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: because then all of a sudden, they might go for

707
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: it and you think, Okay, as long as we get

708
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: them to fourth down, we're gonna get the ball back.

709
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: And that's not true anymore. And I think defenses are

710
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: going to have to start accounting for that going forward.

711
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to be Greg Williams of

712
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: the Jets and bring the house, you know, and that

713
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: sort of situation obviously and cause you the teams win

714
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: and your job. But but yeah, I'm with you. It

715
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: does seem like we're not going to call it a

716
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: pre event because that's the third rail with a lot

717
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: of coaches, But it does seem like it's definitely a

718
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: little to saw off. The other thing that I wonder about, Kyle,

719
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: is you look at this matchup and I looked at

720
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: some of my game notes from one and all these

721
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: glowing accolades on the forty nine ers, like they return

722
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: eighteen of twenty two starters from the NFC championship team. Well,

723
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: they're now the second team in the last thirteen years

724
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: to be the Super Bowl runner up and finished with

725
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: a losing record the year after. So it's been quite

726
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: the before and after for the forty nine Ers and

727
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it does to the relevance of

728
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: that Week one game going into this one, right, I mean,

729
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: and yet it's no fault of their own. I mean,

730
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: they were just absolutely hammered by all of these injuries.

731
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: And I think the way the Cardinals won that first game,

732
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: and they got a lot of credit for it, I

733
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: don't think we should take that away at all, because

734
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: that was pretty close to a full strength forty nine

735
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: Ers team. Nick Bozo was still there, Jimmy g Richard Sherman,

736
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: all those guys were healthy. They didn't have Deebo Samuel

737
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: and didn't have Brandon Nayuk, but everybody else I think

738
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: was basically playing. So that was a very important win

739
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: early on for the Cardinals. And yeah, this iteration is

740
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: not the same forty nine Ers team. Even if George

741
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: Kittle does come back. You're looking at Bethard as their quarterback,

742
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals have roughed him up pretty good in

743
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: four meetings of his career. So certainly the Cardinals will

744
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: be favored to win this game, and they just have

745
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: to take care of business because we know with a

746
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: loss things get a lot dicier when it comes to

747
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And knowing that the Rams are looming and

748
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: if you have to win that game to get in,

749
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: that's not an easy place to win. So obviously this

750
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: is a game that the Cardinals certainly need to take

751
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: care of business. Wait, not to put you on the spot.

752
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: The Cardinals have played CJ. Bethard four times? Is that

753
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: what you said? Yeah, I was just looking up the

754
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference stuff. I don't know if he started

755
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: every single game, but he was. He's been their quarterback

756
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: a lot because Garoppolo has been injured a lot. I mean,

757
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: it seems like every single time the Cardinals and Niners play,

758
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: there's like an eighty percent chance. So there's a backup

759
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: quarterback in there. For San Francisco. There was a stretch

760
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: Obviously it's well before Kyle Shanahan got there, but there

761
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: was a stretch there where the forty nine ers must

762
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: have started a different quarterback. And I've been doing this

763
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: for so long I can't remember when the time frame was,

764
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: but they started a different quarterback like seven games in

765
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: a row against the Cardinals. And this is a team

766
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: that's playing the Cardinals twice a year, so you would

767
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: thinking year it would stay the same, and they just

768
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: kept between injuries and ineffectiveness and whatever. And obviously, you know,

769
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: we talked to Kyle Shanahan on the conference call and

770
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: he was talking about how, you know, since he's been there,

771
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: or since Garoppolo has been there, he's been healthy for

772
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: one season, which was last season. You know, other than

773
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: that he's hurt. The one season he was fully healthy,

774
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: they made a run to the Super Bowl, although in

775
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game he threw all of eight passes, right,

776
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's his conundrum Niners fans and Jimmy

777
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: g and what exactly his future isn't remember they can

778
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: still get out of his contract with like four million

779
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: dollars cap hit after this year. Breaking news too, as

780
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: we're recording this, they have Josh Johnson was on the

781
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: practice squad. He had to go on the COVID list.

782
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: Garoppolo's not ready to come back. Nick Mullins had to

783
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: have season ending surgery. So that's why Bethard is starting

784
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: to have a backup quarterback. Against the Cardinals, they had

785
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: to go off to a practice squad and sign a quarterback,

786
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: and he guesses Josh Rosen will be the forty Niners

787
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. This tak that's great. Oh my gosh, if

788
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: I if this zoom thing had a mic, that would

789
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: be your drop right there, that'd be your heart drop game.

790
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: We'd end this thing right on that. Wow, Josh, that's

791
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: that's good stuff. That is good. So what what what

792
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: what's the over under on the number of network TV cutaways?

793
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: So if Josh Rosen on the Niners sidelines, so yeah,

794
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: that that'll be happening. Wow, that's interesting. Well, you know what,

795
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: they better figure something out because if my count is right,

796
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: they have twenty two turnovers in the last eight games.

797
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: Ye can and and they've averaged at least two turnovers

798
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: per game for eight straight games. It's been consistently woeful.

799
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: So the Niners. That's how the Niners get to five

800
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: and nine. And uh, you know what else is intriguing

801
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: If you know your Niners history and you tell me, Kyle,

802
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: this has an application to the Arizona Cardinals and clip

803
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: thingsbre or not, the late great Bill Walsh Hall of Famers.

804
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: I think we all agree. Redefined offense. The NFL started

805
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: Owen seven. He started Owen seven his first year with

806
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: the Niners. By year three, the nineteen eighty one season

807
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: he won his first Super Bowl with Joe Montana. I'm

808
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: not saying the Cardinals are tracking in that direction and

809
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: by year three, next, next year, but I think it's

810
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: worth noting that sometimes when you're trying to innovate something

811
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals already a degree, other teams are doing

812
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: similar things to the Arizona Cardinals, but what they're doing

813
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray, his skill set, his body type, and

814
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: the manner which you're trying to do it has not

815
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: really been attempted before in the NFL. If we had

816
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: zoom out for a moment, and it makes me think

817
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: of those Bill Walsh days the late seventies where he

818
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: took over a horrendous Niners program and started slowly, but

819
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: guess what after he got some of his players in

820
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: and got the playbook installed, boom they took off. I

821
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: think it's hard to argue with the Cardinals trajectory. I mean,

822
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: like you said, when Cliff Kingsbury got here, the Cardinals

823
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: were coming off a season when they had a negative

824
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: two hundred point differential, which was the worst in the NFL.

825
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: And I mean, the worst team in the NFL sometimes

826
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have that bad of a point differential, so it

827
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: was one of the bad worst teams, if you will,

828
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: and then last year there was market improvement. In this

829
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: year there plus sixty two and point differential, which if

830
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: they stay on this pace, they're going to have the

831
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: second best point differential of any team since the Cardinals

832
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: moved to Arizona, behind only the twenty fifteen Cardinals. So

833
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: there's been obviously the Super Bowl run. The team after

834
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: that that went ten and six. The Cardinals in twenty

835
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty thirteen and twenty sixteen were pretty good.

836
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: This point differential is better than all those teams. So

837
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: I think if you look at it at a broad

838
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: view like that, they're certainly heading in the right direction.

839
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see what the top end is. Can

840
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: they keep taking these steps forward? I mean you can

841
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: easily plateau or go the other way as a coach,

842
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: that remains to be seen. But anybody you know questioning

843
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: the process of hiring Kingsbury or drafting Murray, I mean,

844
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: the proof is here that these first two years have

845
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 1: been very successful. What else, Darren, what else do we miss?

846
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: Any other breaking news? You know, anything else? I Mean

847
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: it's not often we get breaking news in a podcast.

848
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: But here's here's the best part. Paul is h Rosen.

849
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: When he comes to practice this week, he's gonna stay

850
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: in the Renaissance over there at the Whole in Glendale,

851
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: and he's gonna practice right outside. It's all good. That's

852
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: right time as a flat circle. I'm glad, I asked,

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Speaker 1: because you're absolutely right, he'll be able to tell everyone

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Speaker 1: else what's up in the Glendale area. Oh my, And

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Speaker 1: you're right. They've been here for about a month if

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Speaker 1: memory serves the forty nine ers, and they've been basically

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00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: pulling a Cardinals camp for the forty nine ers. They

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00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: lost their first two games, and they went on the

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Speaker 1: road and they lost to Dallas and four turnovers ended

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Speaker 1: up Dallas end with a forty Burger on the board.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to believe it's gonna be interesting this week.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is is that the because it's Christmas week,

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Speaker 1: they were allowed to get some of their family out

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Speaker 1: to visit them this week. And you just wonder does

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Speaker 1: that make it better for them for this game? Does

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Speaker 1: it make it harder or the distractions there? I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's there's talk George Kittle could end up playing this week,

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Speaker 1: but Garoppolo is not going to play, and it just

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Speaker 1: I've been around some teams that have to have the

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Speaker 1: wheels fall off at the end of the season, and

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Speaker 1: this just really feels like it's a chance for the

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Speaker 1: wheels to fall off, you know. And there were reports

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Speaker 1: out of the Bay Area when they first showed up

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00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: over there that the Niners couldn't believe that restaurants were open,

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Speaker 1: movie theaters were open, because that is not the case

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Speaker 1: in Santa Clara County, and so they found it somewhat ironical,

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Speaker 1: if you will, that they have been relocated to an

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Speaker 1: area that didn't have nearly a stringent COVID protocols and

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Speaker 1: measures in place, and because of that, they have been

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Speaker 1: strictly prohibited to the stadium and or the hotel. For

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Speaker 1: my understanding, Yeah, it's gonna be pretty tough to to

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Speaker 1: be out from your home and just be kind of stuck.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like the NBA bubble where you're just in

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Speaker 1: the one spot. But there's certainly less type of arrangements

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Speaker 1: in Glendale than that they had an Orlando. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's probably a trying few weeks for those guys. All Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: if that's gonna do it. I have to go check

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Speaker 1: in with the kids. I tasked them, since they're off school,

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Speaker 1: to figure out three solid gifts suggestions for the white Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I now see what they've come up with. There

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00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: was an early suggestion that I had to squash of

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Speaker 1: getting the misses a room bat and I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: there's no chance any sort of cleaning device will be

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Speaker 1: purchased because you know where my room will be, the garage.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, right, whatsoever? So you guys have my number.

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Speaker 1: If you have any value added suggestions, please let me know.

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Speaker 1: I'm always appreciated. I don't know about you guys. As

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Speaker 1: married men. I just don't have it in me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, you started Valentine's Day, and you got Mother's Day,

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Speaker 1: and you got her Birthday, and you got the Anniversary,

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Speaker 1: you got Christmas, five gifts a year, year after year.

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Speaker 1: I don't have an in me anymore. I just don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have you get me. You're married for twenty five,

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Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven years. You start running out of ideas,

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Speaker 1: ran out of ideas in year one. So I'm struggling.

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Speaker 1: That's not complimentary football, right. There be no help from

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Speaker 1: Darren Urban and Kyle Oder Guard and that'll do it

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