1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Tuesday, 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: May third, and we had a humongous NFL story dominating Monday. Yes, 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: dominating above the NBA playoffs. By the way, three of 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: the first four second round games were very bad, not 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: good watches at all. And I'm glad for some NFL news, 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: even though it's a team I fully support the Arizona 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: Cardinals that we decided to talk about the DeAndre Hopkins 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: six games suspension with a guest. UH Phoenix radio guy 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: go on with fairly often in the desert. His name 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: is Jody Ailer, Fox Sports Radio in Phoenix. We brought 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: him in and it's weird how the Arizona Cardinals have 13 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: been probably one of the five most talked about teams 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: in the off season, given the Kyler Murray situation, given 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: the Kyla Murray situation unfolding the way it has for 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: a star quarterback who's still on his rookie deal, given 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: the DeAndre Hopkins suspension, losing Christian Kirkin free agency, um 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: acquiring Hollywood Brown on Draft Night, which very clearly was 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: in relation to the Hopkins suspension. Um, listen, Arizona Cardinals 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: are kind of a big deal right now. They are, 21 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: and I listen. I've professed my love for them on 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: this podcast. I have said that I gotta have a 23 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: nice little connection They're going on with the organization, sitting 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: on some stuff that I'm not willing to reveal yet 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: about the Cardinals. Listen. I am bullish on this team's outlook. 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: I'm a believer in Kyler Murray, Cliff Kingsbury. I've seen 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: the Kingsbury meltdowns in each of the last two seasons 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: late in the year. I get that. And Kyler Murray 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: being afraid of Aaron Donald. I think I said that 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: on this podcast, and I got some pick up. Yeah, 31 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: he was clearly afraid of Aaron Donald. He clearly was 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: quitting in that playoff game. He did not want anymore, 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: No Moss, the famous boxing statement when that was it, 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: That's all I could take. Duran Sugar, Ray Leonard, I 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: believe gosh, if I messed that up, I'm gonna hear 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: from you guys. But um, yeah, Arizona's a flash point 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: now and DeAndre Hopkins six game suspension, everybody's gonna be 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: selling right now. Double down. Double down last year when 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: you lose Hopkins to an injury in the middle of 40 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: the season, when he's your star. Yeah, it's tough to 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: pivot on the fly, very tough. You got five months 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: now before the season starts. Cliff Kingsburg has got all 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: the time in the world to figure this out. They 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: picked up Hollywood Brown, A J. Green is back, ron 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: Dale Moore will have a more of a featured role. 46 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't think this is the end of the world. 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: I like the tight end pick up in the draft. 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: As I said on yesterday's podcast, I'm telling you that 49 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: they're they're in good shape. Arizona is in very good 50 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: shape here to win the division. When I head out 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: to Vegas to enter the Super Contest again, I still 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: have not cashed yet. Frustrating as hell. Have been close twice. Um, 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: just to cash at all would be very nice. Um 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: winning it, that's an the story. Um. But when I 55 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: go out to sign up, I will bet the Cardinals 56 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: to win the division again. Boy, that was nearly one 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: of my better UM season futures. I don't do a 58 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: ton of futures. I don't like to tie up that 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: much money in NFL futures when wacky things happen, injuries, etcetera. 60 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: So I will be backing Arizona to win the division. 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be Seattle. I don't think it's gonna 62 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: be San Francisco with Trey Lance. Although let's see what 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: happens with Jimmy Gi Saga, and I guess you could 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: make an argument that the Rams are gonna be the 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: class of the division. But let's see how that pans out. Again, 66 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: We've seen some Super Bowl teams kind of take the 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: foot off the gas, take a step back. It's not 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: a given that the Rams are gonna come out on fire. 69 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: And then the schedule is going to be very tough 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: for the Rams. First place schedule, so that'll factor in. 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Jody Ailer in a minute about that. 72 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: I just want to quickly riff on the NBA games 73 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: we saw obviously Sunday. The Warriors Grizzlies game was phenomenal. 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: The Bucks Celtics game was a snoozer. Listen, Miami Philly 75 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: was awful without Joel Embiid. Miami races out to a 76 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: huge lead, Philly comes back, and then you know, expectedly, 77 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: we see a total full job by the Sixers in 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: the second half. I can't go out here and kill 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: James Harden because he's fighting with one hand tied behind 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: his back. But when he takes thirteen shots in the 81 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: entire game thirty five minutes, gets to the line four times. 82 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: I was not very impressed with Harden's game. Listen, it's 83 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: clear he's not the same guy he used to be. 84 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: We know that, we've known that for a while. This 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: could have been his chance to show people, hey, hey, hey, 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: old James Harden. He's ruled to go. He's ready to 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: rock and roll. And he was most definitely not ready. 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: James Harden. I've told you guys on the gambling show 89 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: I do with Cowherd on Monday's I bet the under 90 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: forty two and a half points rebounds assists for Harden 91 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: minor sweat in the third quarter, but he did nothing 92 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: in the second half. Nothing finished with sixteen nine and five. 93 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: Uh Tyrese Maxie was a loser for me. I bet 94 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: him over two and a half three is he only 95 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: hit one? Couldn't throw in the ocean. Tobias Harris had 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: a good game, but he was minu twenty five like 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: hard and minus twenty five and the final five minutes 98 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: we're all garbage time heat rolled without without Kyle Lowry. 99 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: Now when beat comes back, it'll be interesting. Can they 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: win this with bamat of bio Jimmy Butler, Tyler hero 101 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Tyler here off the bench. I think they can if 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: they don't get him beat back at full strength. This 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: could be a sweet Miami's looking good. Miami Bucks next 104 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 1: round seems inevitable now. The nightcap surprisingly not that close. 105 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: Final score, kind of close, but this was a Phoenix 106 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: lead wire to wire. They jumped out to like a 107 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: twelve point lead in the first quarter and cruised. Um, 108 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: I'll say this, I don't I don't feel optimistic about 109 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: the Sixers after watching them get destroyed. I have some 110 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: questions about the Celtics. I think Dallas is firmly still 111 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: in this series, because, folks, there ain't no way they're 112 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: shooting fifty again from the field, from the entire from 113 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: the field and free throw line up in the field 114 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: from three from the foul line like they pitched nearly 115 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: a perfect game. They dropped sixty nine points in the 116 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: first half. Okay, Cam Johnson came in with the flamethrower 117 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Jake crowder Is hitting threes, Chris Paul basically didn't need 118 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: to do that much three assists. I mean it was 119 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a pretty easy game. DeAndre eight and just too big inside. 120 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: They said, hey, um, you know you talk. Did not 121 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: use Rudy Gobert against the Maps. I think he had 122 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: what five post steps in the entire series, maybe four 123 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: and eighton went for points on twenty shots. Very impressive 124 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: showing from Matan. I know people are gonna go gaga, 125 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: oh DeAndre eight and see I told you guys he 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: was a max player. He's so good, he's so good, 127 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: like settled down. He's going against a small MAVs team. 128 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: Can we relax? What did he do in the finals? 129 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: Where was he against the Lopeziana combo? Let's settle down. 130 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: The best player in the game, as we know was 131 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Luca don Chet, who was unbelievable. Um just kept his 132 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: team in the game. Got nothing from his wingman din 133 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: Wittie and Brunson. And one of my reasons that I 134 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: like the MAVs to have a chance in the series 135 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: was we haven't seen them against his sons with din 136 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: Wedy and Brunson and Luca and the full Arsenal Well. 137 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean it was pretty clear early that din Witty 138 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: and Bronson did not have it. Like I like those 139 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: guys a lot as role players, and when you have 140 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: Luca setting them up, you're in great shape. Bronson just 141 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: could get couldn't get on tracked at all. He did 142 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: not look like the guy who was commanding top dollar 143 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: last round. Remember it was basically one of those series 144 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: where he's like, you know, nobody could stop me. I'm 145 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: a dominant point guard. Now he's going against a real team. 146 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: No disrespect to Mike Conley in the Jazz, but Bronson 147 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: really struggled, could not get his shot going, got in 148 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: foul trouble early. I think he picked up three in 149 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: the first half that put him behind the eight ball 150 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: um And you know, if Maxi Kleiber doesn't drop five 151 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: threes in the first half, you know MAVs might lose 152 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: this by twenty five. But Luca kept him in it 153 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: because he is the best player in the NBA. He's 154 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: the best offensive weapon in the league. Nobody, absolutely nobody 155 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: can check him. Bridges had no chance. He almost had 156 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: a forty point trip dub in Game one. I mean, 157 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: it was just a great performance from Luka dontag. The 158 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: guy is phenomenal. I don't care if you don't like 159 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: the whining at calls. Yeah, it's off putting a little bit, 160 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: but watching this guy go in basically slow motion and 161 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: doing whatever he wants, and when I say whatever, it's 162 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: very automatic, Like any time he gets the ball in 163 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: the block, it's going in. I know he got his 164 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: pocket picked up by JaVale McGhee and everybody's gonna go crazy. Oh, 165 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: JaVale McGhee picked him clean. That's a highlight of the game. Like, okay, fine, fine, 166 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: JaVale McGee to pick his pocket. Luke had five turnovers. 167 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: Did you watch the rest of the game. The only 168 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: reason this was single digits was Luka donte. This has 169 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: a feel of Clippers maps in the last couple of years. 170 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's gonna go seven, but the 171 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: maps are not getting swept in this series. That is 172 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: not happening short of an injury or something catastrophic. I 173 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: like what I saw from Dallas. I think they got 174 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: a chance, but ultimately Sons cruise and we had three 175 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: or four games that we're just not interesting at all 176 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. One good one NBA Playoffs. Gotta 177 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: pick it up, guys. All right, let's get to our 178 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: interview with Jody Ailer, Fox Sports Radio in Phoenix. Fox 179 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 180 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 181 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 182 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Jason likes to think he 183 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: knows everything when it comes to sports. I know what 184 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: sports dance want, but for everything he doesn't, he knows 185 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: a guy who does. Let's just say I know a 186 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: guy who knows a guy he knows another guy. Alright, 187 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: So to break down the Arizona Cardinals, I don't know. 188 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: Dysfunction is the right word, catastrophe, um, whatever you want 189 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: to call it. We're gonna bring in Jody Ailer, Fox 190 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in Arizona does a four hour show by himself. 191 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: I think he's got some good content with DeAndre Hopkins. Jody, 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 1: how are you man? I'm great days like this or 193 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: where doing four hours doesn't sound as daunting as it 194 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: sometimes can be. I can't believe you do four hours 195 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: every day. I had a three hour radio show on weekends, 196 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: and you know that it was supposed to be a 197 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: National Show. But of course I'm gonna shoehorn my jets 198 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: in there, and there's just you know, during the dog 199 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: days of summer, there's not three hours on one day 200 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: a week. You're doing two hours a day. But I mean, 201 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: I guess you're gonna get a lot of calls on 202 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Sound um, let's get started. Big picture, obviously, 203 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna say they were terrible without him down the stretch. 204 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: It kind of cratered they should have won the division, 205 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: ended up not winning the division, and then look horrible 206 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Do we expect more of the same 207 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: or because they have, you know, a four month heads 208 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: up on this, they should be okay, Well, I think 209 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's timing. Is is interesting. Obviously they were 210 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: prepared for this in the trap. I think the selfs 211 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: contextualized the Hollywood Brown acquisition and the Trey McBride draft 212 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: to get the second round of tight end was nowhere 213 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: near their top needs going into the off season. So 214 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: running two tight end sets Hollywood Brown you give up 215 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: twenty third overall pick makes sense. I think they're in 216 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: trouble though, Jason. I mean, listen, they were one four 217 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: down the stretch without DeAndre Hopkins last year, obviously, Kyler 218 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: Murray was banged up. We saw in that wild Card game, 219 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: without like a clear number one guy, Kyler struggle to 220 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: sort of make decisions and figure out how to sort 221 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: of manipulate the second and third levels. DeAndre Hopkins commanded 222 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: so much attention and like different from Hollywood Brown and 223 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: that you had to really be aware of DeAndre Hopkins 224 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: on every single down and distance and snap. I mean, 225 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: if it's third and one, Nuke was likely to get 226 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: a first down just as much as he was on 227 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: first intent. So I think this is a huge loss 228 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: for them, and I think Kyler Murray staying healthy is 229 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: obviously the first, uh you know, sort of thing they 230 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: need for next year. But they're gonna need a better 231 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: answer than a J. Green's cadaver year two. Oh jeez, 232 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: that's a harsh Listen, figure out radio guy being super negative. Okay, Joey, 233 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: let me put the positive spin on Okay. Uh, First 234 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: of all, the division is gonna be very down. I 235 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: think we would all agree that the Seattle Seahawks one 236 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: of the bottom five or six teams in the league, 237 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: certainly in the in the NFC, I think the Niners 238 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: are gonna go through some tough times, especially if Trey 239 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: Lance is the starter, Deebo, Samuel and Happy. We'll see 240 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: how that goes. Raym super Bowl hangover. I think, if anything, 241 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: maybe there's a positive out of this lack of Hopkins. Hey, 242 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: we struggle without him last year. We know Kingsbury got 243 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: his new deal. He's gonna have to be in the 244 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: lab cooking up. I don't know about a new offense, 245 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: but definitely a new look. Like you said, two tight 246 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: end sets, maybe quicker passes, and you know, the reliance 247 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: upon a superstar receiver sometimes you know it gets you. 248 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh it's third and four. I know Hopkins, it's gonna 249 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: be my guy. Well, you know what, maybe we should 250 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: spread it around and look to not just go to 251 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: one guy. Gives us more of a diverse look. Is 252 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: that too optimistic on my part? No? I mean I 253 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: think it makes sense. I think obviously they're gonna have 254 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: to do that. They don't have a choice. The problem 255 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: is like a J. Green, while he had nearly a 256 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: nine yards lashed year, was not a guy that created 257 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: much separation. That was not going in. It was true 258 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: Antoine Wesley stepped in out as an undrafted free agent, 259 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: one of Cliff Kingsberry's boys from Texas Tech. He's not 260 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: an NFL caliber wide receiver that's gonna draw the attention 261 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: to receivers. They misused Rondale Moore, last year's second round pick, 262 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: another speedy, undersized guy they used to be as a 263 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: magic guy. Never gave them a chance down field. So 264 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to do some cramming in 265 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: an O T A S training camp in preseason be 266 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: prepared for this. You know, Cliff Kingsberry spends a lot 267 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: of time talking about and people around Cliff Kingsberry, how 268 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: much time he spends watching film preparing, and I believe 269 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: all of it. I believe he's a worker. B I 270 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: believe you know, looks can be a little deceiving with 271 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsberry. I think the dude eats, sleeps and breeze football. 272 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: I also don't think he's particularly good at adjusting offensively, 273 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: and now he's gonna have to do this week one, 274 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: and but I mean the adjustments that you would hope 275 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: to sort of that as a wrinkle down the stretch 276 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: in November and December. He's now gonna have to bust 277 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: out in you know, September and October. And I think 278 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to show their hands on some 279 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: of these new formations and new wrinkles way earlier than 280 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: I think you would want to. Uh. And I would 281 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: add to what you just said about coming out of 282 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: the gates. He's historically strong. They started seven or o 283 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: last year, crushed the Titans, who remember we're the number 284 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: one seed the a f C, I mean, obliterated them 285 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: on the road, picked up wins at l A. Rams, 286 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: beat the Vikings, beat the Niners. Um, you know there's 287 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: some quality wins in there. So historically he's come out 288 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: of the gate strong. Now you don't have Hopkins, you 289 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: could see. I mean we got to see the schedule, 290 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: but you know, if they can get four and two 291 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: without Hopkins, I mean it's tough to gauge up without 292 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: seeing the opponents. Is four and two reasonable? Yeah? No, 293 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. I think if they 294 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: can even three and three, I think you'll live with right. 295 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: Because I think you're right about the NFC West. It 296 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: last year, everybody's talking about how difficult it is. I 297 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: think this year, I agree with you. I think it's 298 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: a winnable division, and you know, this is what you 299 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: do when you're the Cardinals and you finished in second place. 300 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: It came down to week eighteen. All they needed to 301 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: do is beat the Seahawks. Are playing for nothing, and 302 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't do it. Meanwhile, the Rams win the division. 303 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: The Rams added Bobby Wagner and Allan Robbins and the 304 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals added Nick v Hill and Will Hernandez of Hollywood Round, 305 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: so they still have some catching up to do. But yeah, 306 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: three and three, four and two. They played the a 307 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: f C West this year, so hopefully that a f 308 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: C West is you know, backs loaded in the in 309 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: the second half of the schedule. But they also played 310 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: the NFC South, which might be the weakest division in football. 311 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Um so, I think the schedule is going to be 312 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: a really big deal. What do we get that you know, 313 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: next week or the week after. It's coming pretty soon, 314 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: so that'll be nice. I know, we'll get back to 315 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: Kyla Marion sec. But on defense they lose. I think 316 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: Golden led the team in Saxon, Chandler Jones was second 317 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: or vice versa, and are both gone. Marcus Golden's back 318 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones both had both had double digit sacks last year. 319 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: Um Chandler Jones had five plus sacks in the first 320 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: game against the Titans and then had five the rest 321 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: of the year. But you know, part of Marcus Golden's 322 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: eleven sacks season, it has to be attributed to the 323 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: attention and the defenses give Chandler Jones on an every 324 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: down basis. So now you're replacing Chandler Jones really with 325 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Dennis Gardek who was a part time player two years 326 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: ago that contributed. Two years ago, the Cardinals were one 327 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: of the beating sacked teams in the NFL when Chandler 328 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Jones was also injured and it was Hassan Reddick chipping in. 329 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: It was Dennis Garde. Uh. And then they drafted two 330 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: addressers in the third round. You know, Cam Thomas out 331 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: of Sandy at the State, the kid from Cincinnati Sanders. 332 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: So I I think defensively, they're relying they're gonna need 333 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons to be a more disruptive presence around the 334 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and really he's been at his best 335 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of an open space. So I think that's a 336 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: big challenge for any team getting the quarterback. They didn't 337 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: spend the resources on pass rusher that I thought they 338 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: would have spent this offseason. Do you think that means 339 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: that they think Simmons can be turned loose as as 340 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: as like a Jamal Adams type hybrid pass rusher because 341 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: he's kind of struggled in other aspects of the game. Yeah, 342 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: he's He's a guy that kind of makes a few 343 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: splash plays a year, but kind of struggles with the 344 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: meat and potatoes of the job, you know. And the 345 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: challenge there is Aban Collins is going to be starting 346 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: and it was basically red shirted last year's their first 347 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: round pick out a Tulsa And if you probably remember 348 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: the video member from Draft night, u Zaban Collins was 349 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: on the phone with Steve kind of like Steve, we're 350 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: gonna kill people. We're gonna kill people, and then he 351 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: couldn't get on the field. Jordan Hicks was their best 352 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: linebacker last year, so that they spent two first round 353 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: picks in consecutive years on inside linebackers. They dedicated more 354 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: recise resources the inside linebacker than any other team in 355 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: football a year ago. And you're starting to see like 356 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: that atrophy and other part to their team because it's 357 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: two first run Inside Linebackers. Fox Sports Radio has the 358 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of 359 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within 360 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app search f s R to 361 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: listen live when I go on your show. We talked 362 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray all the time, and you know, I 363 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: saw they picked up his fifth year option, and you know, 364 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: getting Hollywood Brown, who apparently is a friend of his, 365 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: dating back to their Oklahoma days. Like in a way, 366 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: they're bending over backwards for the quarterback. But in the 367 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: NFL you sort of have to, don't you, because it's 368 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: tough to find him. I mean, listen, I'd love to 369 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: bring up my Jets all the time. We haven't had 370 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback ever, ever since I've been a fan, 371 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: and you know, Ken O'Brien, sorry, not a franchise quarterback. 372 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: You know, we thought mightbie Mark Stanches is the guy. 373 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: Come on, you know, let's be really, like four years 374 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: after his Jets run, I think he's in the booth 375 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: at ESPN and announcing games and stuff. So yeah, I 376 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: think you gotta pay Kyla, right, you just gotta act yes, No, 377 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean this, here's the crazy part about this situation, 378 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: Jason Is Kyler's agent wanted a deal done as soon 379 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: as possible, Like he wanted a deal done as soon 380 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: as the new league. You're told so far. Now we've 381 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: seen the Deshaun Watson deal, We've seen all the other contracts. 382 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: Now he's got even more leverage with DeAndre Hopkins injury, 383 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: I mean, Kyler Murray. Here's what I'm fascinated by. What 384 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: are they going to pay him? Is it forty Derek 385 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Carsworth forty? He's got to get more than forty million year. 386 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: He's six years younger, with the same postseason track record 387 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: as Derek Carr. He's Is he forty five million? Which 388 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: was previously the mahomes mark? You know? Is he does 389 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: he want? This is a guy that there's no leverage, 390 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: but he's yeah, Well, the question remember we went through 391 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: this with Dak Prescott, right, like should Dak get forty mill? 392 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: Like has he earned it? Of course not? But what 393 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: are the alternatives? And that's where it's like, holy cow, 394 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: it's extremely bleak out there. You could try to, hey, 395 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna franchise tag him twice like Washington with Kirk Cousins, 396 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: and then you lose him and now Washington's in the 397 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: quarterback Wildern it's cycling through uh Ryan Fitzpatrick and then 398 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: they got Carson Whack Alex Smith on one leg. Yeah, 399 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: So I mean, ultimately you kind of gotta pay these guys. 400 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't. I think forty five is a little unreasonable, 401 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: right like, but then again, Deshaun Watson fully guaranteed, is 402 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: extremely unreasonable. But that's how desperate Cleveland was, right. Yeah, 403 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: I think that Deshaun Watson deal has to be looked at. 404 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: His sort of the benchmark if you're an agent in 405 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I mean, if that's the president, you know, 406 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: it's precedent with contracts, and once it gets said, it's 407 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: it's what everybody wants. And Kyler is no stranger to 408 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: maximising leverage given what he went through with the Oakland 409 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: as in the first round. Now, now the difference with 410 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: dak Right, Kyler was the number one overall pick in 411 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: the draft, number one overall pick, and so his value 412 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: I think is always going to be perceived on his 413 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: and is at the highest end of the spectrum. He's 414 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: done nothing to diminish that status as the number one 415 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: overall pick. I think the Cardinals probably cost themselves probably 416 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: close Jason to a hundred million dollars not getting this 417 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: deal done in March or April, and now they're going 418 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: to have to pay in terms of guarantees and annual 419 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: average salary probably seventy to ninety million more than they 420 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: would have had they just priority. They said, draft prep, 421 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: draft preprep, we'll get to you later. We don't like 422 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: to be strong armed. Michael Bidwell kind of runs it 423 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: like a mom and pop shop. He doesn't run like 424 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, Amazon, and he doesn't like to be strong armed. 425 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: And Kyler's can reap the better windfall from it. Isn't 426 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: that similar to Jerry Jones and Dak Prescott? Remember Gerry 427 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: held out, didn't want to pay, didn't want to pay, 428 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: and then other guys get signed and the price just 429 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: keeps going up. Um, I mean you ultimately, is this 430 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: like a Kyler holding them hostas? Can he do that 431 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: with his agent the same agent as Cliff Kingsbury because 432 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: Kingsba he knows without Kyler or forget it, you can 433 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: go back coach college football again, right, yeah, we we 434 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: We made fun of it all the time. You're locally 435 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: because his agent's name is Eric Burkhard. He wants to 436 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: remind you at all times who he is, who he's repping. 437 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: That's also a part of this is he's not dealing 438 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: with you know, Drew Rosenhouse, who's been in the game 439 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: for thirty years and it's just earned a reputation to 440 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: getting deals. And Eric Burkhard is looking to make his 441 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: mark in the NFL agent world with Kyler Murray as 442 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: that next deal. So you've got that wild card. But yeah, 443 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think the Cardinals Kyler Murray 444 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: has shown a willingness to make him uncomfortable. You know, 445 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: he's he's doing it mostly from his you know, gaming chair, 446 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 1: live streaming on Twitch and sending out a tweet, but 447 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: he's still willing to do it. And I think his 448 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: willingness to make them uncomfortable was sort of an indication like, hey, 449 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this the old fashioned way. I'm doing 450 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: this the new school way. And the Cardinals are gonna 451 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: have to respond to it. They just have to do. 452 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: Do you since he's on Twitch, do you have to 453 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: now go on there and see what's up? I will 454 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: not alight just there's like TikTok and Twitch or just 455 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: two areas I can't wander into at the stage of 456 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: my life, um and probably to my professional detriment, Jason, 457 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: but I'm willing to take that, uh, that risk. So 458 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: I remember tweeting something about, how, you know, there's this 459 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: weird social media narrative all like the football writers. Have 460 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: you noticed they're not a big Kyler Murray fans. I 461 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: don't know if that's like an advanced stats thing or 462 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: just like a groupthink deal, but they don't like Kyler Murray. 463 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: And I happen to put out a tweet I don't 464 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: know a couple of months back about how Kyler Murray 465 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: all he's done in the Arizona Cardinals is improve their 466 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: record every year and get to the playoffs, right in 467 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: his you know and his and he hasn't been incredible, 468 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: but he's done that. Like those are the just the facts, 469 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: just looking at the raw numbers, like he's been good 470 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: and they've gotten to the playoffs. And Brookhart happened to 471 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: like retweet it or it made some comment on it, 472 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: and I was a little surprised because why are agents 473 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: on social media getting involved in this stuff. It's kind 474 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: of a little unseemly, is it not? It's how he's 475 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: doing business. He's done it this whole offseason. And I 476 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: agree to this, and no, you mind's a really interesting 477 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: thing about Kyler Murray. Thought it's true locally too, and 478 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: I think this will be true nationally when he breaks through. 479 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 1: If he breaks through. There is a generational divide for 480 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: support of Kyler Murray and the Cardinals fan base. When 481 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: I tweete or talk about Kyler Murray, older Cardinals fans, 482 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals fans that understand that this has been a bad 483 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: franchise for most of its existence in the Desert, they 484 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: will say, get rid of them. He is a spoiled, 485 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: entitled dude. No leadership. I don't, I don't. I don't 486 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: respect Kyler Murray's way of doing business. Get him out 487 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: of here. The younger generation of Cardinals fans are like, 488 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: leave him alone. He's leave him alone. You're being negative, 489 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: and it's it's a really interesting flashpoint for how the 490 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: world's generational are colliding and sports. Where younger fans look 491 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: at Kyla like he's been great. Don't. Constructive criticism isn't 492 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: allowed at a certain age. It's like anything you say 493 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: makes you a hater. The old generation looks at Kyler 494 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: Murray before the Rams game, saying that he's always been 495 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: awesome in the postseason. He's been awesome in high school, 496 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: he was awesome in college. I'm gonna be great. I'm 497 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: not worried. I'm gonna I'm gonna be awesome, and then 498 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: after the game blaming the offensive line we need to 499 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: run the ball more, and never really owning the individual 500 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: accountability of that. And I even look at that Jason, 501 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm like his leadership. He's a real area he needs 502 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: to improve on. He can do it, but he's got 503 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: to be open minded to it. I do think generationally 504 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: there's there is a tendency for quarterbacks or individuals at 505 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: that age to sort of be like, uh uh, leave 506 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: me alone. I'm good. And I think that's Kyler Murray's 507 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: leadership in a nutsheet. Do you think there is like 508 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: a racial aspect to it. I know the hype thing, 509 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: you know, the old school guys are like, oh, I 510 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: need my six three quarterback dropping back in the part. 511 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't want my quarterback running, you know. And then 512 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: of course, you know, Kyler Murray, a young black guy 513 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: who's pretty cool sits front row at the NBA games 514 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: is like all geared out, that just looks like a 515 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: cool guy. That's right, you know, because he's a Texas guy. 516 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: But you know it's people you don't see that stame 517 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: vibe towards Patrick Mahomes. I mean again, he's wear an 518 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: VP in the Super Bowl. Um, and he is a 519 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: little more of a pocket guy. But I do wonder, 520 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: do you think there's a racial or a running quarterback 521 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: aspect of this, similar to maybe a Mike Vick back 522 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: in the day. I would never say no to that. Um, 523 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, as a white guy, I would never begin 524 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: to sort of, you know, dismiss that his his challenges 525 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: aren't at least motivated by people who look at him 526 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: and see something that is deeply ingrained in football culture, 527 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: which is, you know, black quarterbacks for years and years 528 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: and years, And I'm old enough and I just turned 529 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: forty to remember this that they weren't capable of playing 530 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: quarterback to according to generational biases that were built into 531 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: the NFL scouting world. So I would never say no 532 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: to that. I I think that's entirely possible. I think 533 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: to your point, what I've watched is it's really he 534 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: has not built much of a relationship with the Cardinals 535 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: fan base. He shows up, he plays, He's not really 536 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: involved in the community as you would expect. He had 537 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: his first charitable public shouting. Now, granted he's came into 538 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: the league when the pandemic hits, so it's not all 539 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: this fault, but he was at the Boys and Girls 540 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: Club right after his um contract squabble popped up, and 541 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: that was the first time he had sort of done it. 542 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: He needs to build a relationship with the fan base 543 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: because he's kind of been a transactional quarterback. Show up 544 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: when lose, go home, and unless you're you know, on 545 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: his Twitch feed, which is popular, and he's he's done 546 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: charitable events on Twitch, you don't really see or hear 547 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: much from them. And there's some old school kind of 548 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: former teammates that rumble about you know, he's a different dude. 549 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: You know he's I call him he's like a housecat quarterback. 550 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: You know, how's what house cat? He's like if you 551 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: can you ever go into someone's house and they say, 552 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: got a cat? So I'm not either, but like you 553 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: go into someonel like I got a cat, Like where 554 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: is it? Like it's under the bed? Twenty three hours 555 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: a day, right, it comes out. It comes out once 556 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: a day when the right people are around and the 557 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: right conditions, and that's kind of Kyler Murray is like 558 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: any loud noise kind of spooks him and he's he's 559 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to talk, and he's uncomfortable. If you 560 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: watch this weekly press conferences, he's not super comfortable in 561 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: that role, and it's kind of built a barrier between 562 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: him and the fan base. Interesting. I wonder if there's 563 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: any of the divide in the locker room. I remember 564 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: when I was on your show, I had mentioned, like, 565 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, there is some scuttle but that he's last 566 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: one in, first one out, and his mom does his laundry, 567 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: and there's some chatter about the defensive players thinking he's 568 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: too entitled, And I just I wonder if you know 569 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: this will start to creep into the locker room, because 570 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: you're right, the quarterback has to be that guy. I mean, 571 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: even like Zack Wilson on My Jets is organizing wide 572 00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: receiver gatherings whatever out West in the summer to get 573 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: the team like together, like the quarterbacks bonding with the team, 574 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: and you kind of got to do that. Is there 575 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: any of that with Kyler. Yeah. So yeah, Zach Wilson's 576 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: probably putting together sock ops for the guys out there, 577 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: and you know its going to the Yeah, Kyler. You 578 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: know the interesting about Kyler is um this is the 579 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: biggest Cardinals story that nobody's talked about this offseason. DeAndre 580 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: Hate Hopkins came out right after Kyler scrubbed the social media. 581 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: De hop doesn't do a lot of media. He did 582 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: it around the Super Bowl. He said this team had 583 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: some clear miscommate, miscommunication vocation on the field. Now I'm 584 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: paraphrasing DeAndre Hopkins, but he said publicly, we need one 585 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: guy to sort of take charge and clean up our communication. Okay, 586 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: that's DeAndre Hopkins saying we need someone. Who would that 587 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: be that's got to be your quarterback on the field. 588 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: That's gotta be Kyler. Maybe it's Cliff, but even Cliff's 589 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: job is to make sure Kyler is getting right. A. J. 590 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: Green came out two weeks ago after he resigned, saying 591 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: he had communication problems with Kyler Murray, that they need 592 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: to do a better job of being on the same bach. 593 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: You're talking about two you know, Hall of Fame caliber 594 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: wide receivers, publicly talking about communication issues generally on the team, 595 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: but also specifically in A J. Green's point with Kyler Murray. 596 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: I think Kyler's just got to be more of a 597 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: dude in the locker room. I think he's got to 598 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: be more relatable. I think he's got to be more active. 599 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: I thought maybe J. J. Watt could be that guy 600 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: in the locker room. But you know, veteran, been around 601 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: the block, well respected everywhere. The problem is he's not 602 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: our offense, you know, quarterbacks exactly. Man. That's a tough 603 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: all right, Joey, Well, at least you've got some good 604 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: content here, um all summer. I would have suspect until 605 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: Kyler gets what he wants. By the way, does he 606 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: ever do any media traditional media? No? I mean famously 607 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: you go back to that Dan Patrick interview before the 608 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: draft AFT where he basically had to look to his 609 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: dad to answer questions for him, and ever since then. 610 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that Kyler. I may be wrong. He 611 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: does not do any week team affiliated with radio station 612 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: media the way you see other quarterbacks do. I don't 613 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: think he's done many national interviews with with anybody's. Yeah, 614 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to think he's hiding. He's ducking the media, 615 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: but he's certainly not out there and forthcoming anyways. All right, 616 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: Jodi Ayler, Fox Sports Radio in Arizona, thanks for taking 617 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: the time, man. Enjoy uh the offseason full of Arizona 618 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals strife. You're the man. I appreciate it.