1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Big news out of Congress today. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that Chip. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Roy is going to join us, How involved was the 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: CIA in Ukraine before this whole war thing, all that 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: trouble for Biden, and so much more coming up. When 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm right, I swear to you I am not a 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: cynical person or a Debbie Downer. 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: All right, I swear to you I'm not. I'm not. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: I'm really genuinely not. 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: But let's have a talk about what happened today that 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: has many people celebrating, and understandably so in case you 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: just woke up, which it would be awfully late in 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: the day, but in case you just woke up, Mitch McConnell, 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: the current Senate minority leader, stepped up to the podium 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: and announced he's stepping down in November from leadership. 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: Believe me, I know the politics was in my party 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: at this particular moment in time. I have many faults, 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: miser understanding politics is. 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: Not one off. 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: So as I've been thinking about when I would deliver 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 3: some news to the Senate, I always imagined a moment 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: when I had total clarity and peace about the sunset 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: of my work, a moment when I'm certain I have 24 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: helped preserve the ideals. I so strongly believe that day 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: arrived today. 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Okay, let's set aside the whole speech he just tried 27 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: to give. There they all do the same thing, these 28 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: bloodsuckers going to Washington, d C. 29 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: For twenty thirty years. 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: You can't get them out of office with a crowbar 31 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: until they're half dead or ching out on camera the 32 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: way Mitch McConnell has several times. And finally, once they've 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: lost control of the last tiny little thread of power 34 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: they were clinging to, they step up to the podium 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: and announce that they're they're riding off into the sunset, 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: doing their duty for America after fighting for the country 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: for far too long. I'll get banned. Mitch McConnell just 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: got done. He just got done, like five minutes ago, 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: trying to guarantee amnesty into law. 40 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 2: I'm not going to let this go. 41 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, As long as we're doing the Swan Song 42 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: legacy thing of Mitch McConnell, I want to make sure 43 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: everyone remembers the deal spearheaded by Mitch McConnell. We now 44 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: know that the Senate GOP tried to get. 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: Through behind closed doors. 46 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: It was a massive hand out to every foreign country 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: on Earth, Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan. And of course 48 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: the trade off was going to be they were going 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: to secure the border, and then we dug into it. 50 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: And we've found out that the border deal guaranteed m this. 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: Teme for millions of people. 52 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: In fact, it guaranteed millions more could flood into the country. 53 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: And that's the Mitch McConnell deal. Mitch McConnell's legacy may 54 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: be a mixed bag overall, but what Mitch McConnell has done, 55 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: especially over the last few years, is give aid and 56 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: comfort to the enemy, repeatedly cobbling together a minority of 57 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: loser Republicans to join with Democrats to pass damaging bill 58 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: after damaging bill after damaging bill. 59 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: Do I need to remind you? Right after the House GOP. 60 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Took control during the midterms, admittedly a small majority, but 61 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: they took control after the midterms, Mitch McConnell quickly worked 62 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: with Democrats to pass a massive trillion dollar plus bill 63 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: because he was worried that GOP might actually demand some 64 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: spending cuts, so before the new GOP House could be 65 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: swept in or sworn in. 66 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 67 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: He immediately worked with Democrats to get more Democrat priorities through. 68 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: So now Mitch, you don't get to do that thing today. 69 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Well, Pardner, yours faiful service. I'll get bent. Goodbye, good riddance. 70 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: Now back to me not being cynical. Let's have a talk, 71 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: because there's the story, and then there's the story behind 72 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: the story. Mitch McConnell has been in Senate leadership for 73 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: a long time, whether he's the majority leader or minority. 74 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: Leader, and let's chat about that. 75 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: Those positions are extremely powerful positions. They're more powerful than 76 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: the average American realizes until you start studying it and 77 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: talk people in Congress and learning about the guts of Congress. 78 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: You think that this senator and this senator in leadership 79 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: that they're kind of equal, right, I mean, sure the 80 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: guy in leadership has a little more power, but they're 81 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of equal. And no, that's not the case when 82 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: it comes to what bills will even be voted on. 83 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: When it comes to the power of all the endless lobbying. 84 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: Cash and pack money, the difference in power between Senate 85 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: leadership and the others is down here. It's a wide gap, 86 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: all right, So how does one get into leadership. 87 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: How does one. 88 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: Achieve the status of a Mitch McConnell type who's carried 89 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: a big stick in Washington, d C. For a very 90 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: long time. Well, it's really not complicated. If you want 91 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: to get in Senate leadership, you will prove a to 92 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: all the sucking demons in Washington, d C. The soul 93 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: sucking monsters there. You have to prove to them that 94 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: you're a team player. After all, Hey, we can't have 95 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: a shutdown. 96 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: Guys. 97 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: You see all those people now, you have to prove 98 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: to them, of course, that you're gonna go along to 99 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: get along. We don't want to change things, right, Hey, 100 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: you're not one of those guys who wants to change things. 101 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: You have to prove to them you don't want to 102 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: change things and be you have to be a fundraising juggernaut. 103 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: And so that leads me to being mister cinical. 104 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: Here. 105 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm happy, Mitch mcconnald's leaving. Your happy, Mitch mcconnald's leaving. 106 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: Have your moment, cheer yell. Life is good. Okay, I'm happy, 107 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: you're happy, everyone's happy. We're all happy. The list of 108 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: potential replacements is really bad. 109 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: It is yes, there is. 110 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: A chance a more conservative upstart like Rick Scott can 111 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: mount some sort of a revolution within the Senate GOP. 112 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: And maybe takeover. 113 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: That's probably about the best we could hope for. But 114 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: the truth is, there have been a couple guys who've 115 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: been gunning for this leadership spot for a long time, 116 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: sucking up to Mitch McConnell, proving to the DC swamp 117 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: that they're team players, of course, that they all play ball. 118 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,119 Speaker 1: And those two names are John Cornyn, he's much less likely, 119 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: and John Thune, John Thune, John Thune from the blood 120 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: red state. John Thune, who should have been primary forever ago. 121 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: But of course he's handsome and speaks very well on TV, 122 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: so the moron GOP primary voter goes out and votes 123 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: for him every time. John Thune's probably going to be 124 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: our next Senate minority or majority leader. John Thune, who 125 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: can't even defend your gun rights without talking about prairie dogs. 126 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: In my state, they use them to shoot prairie dogs 127 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: and you know other types of varments. And so I 128 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: think that there are legitimate reasons why people would want 129 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: to have them, And I think the challenge you have 130 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 4: already is that there are literally millions of them available 131 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: in this country. 132 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: I think there are legitimate reasons. 133 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 2: Who asked you. It's not about what you think. 134 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: I have rights and they're not subject to anything you think. 135 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: Not Democrats, not Republicans, nobody. My rights come from God. 136 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: Those rights include being able to defend myself. But again, 137 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: another one of these DC swamp rats who always thinks 138 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: your rights are up for debate, of course, and can 139 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: never just go out there and boldly defend you when 140 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: your rights has to make it about prairie dogs. Yet 141 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: another low ted GOP loser going to take over the 142 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: GOP Senate. 143 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: So pardon me if I'm not excited. 144 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: And look, this is how it happens because the good 145 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: guys don't want to be in leadership. 146 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: They don't want to become part of the DC swamp. 147 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: They don't want to do the kind of fundraising it 148 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: takes to fund the party to buy the favors you 149 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: need to get into leadership. I mean, look, you're not 150 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: gonna get a Josh Holly in there, senator. 151 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: Are you gonna be in leadership soon? I totally agree. 152 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: Our leadership really really sucks, and the Senate the House 153 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: is a little bit better. But are we gonna see 154 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: a move to kind of replace some of this old 155 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: guard that's let us down time and time again. 156 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's talking to me me, not gonna be me. Okay, 157 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: So it is what it is. Look, we asked. 158 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson, another one of the good ones. You're 159 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: gonna be in there now. It's not gonna be me. 160 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: So good guys don't want to run, they don't want 161 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: to go through. It is what it is. So welcome 162 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: to Minority Leader John Thune. It is what it is, 163 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: all right, Hunter Biden, Let's let's move on to that 164 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: because I want to get to this chip. Hunter Biden 165 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: has been stonewall in Congress for a long time. Hunter 166 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Biden finally gave a behind closed doors testimony today to 167 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives. Of course, Hunter gave the old line, 168 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: the line that sadly much of the GOP I did 169 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: not involve my father in my business, not while I 170 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: was a practicing lawyer, not in my investments or transactions 171 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: domestic and international, not as a board member, and not 172 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: as an artist. 173 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: Never that corrects me up. He still calls himself an artist. 174 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: Well, obviously, as you know, you watch the show it's 175 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: not Hunter's business. Hunter doesn't have a business. Hunter has 176 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: nothing to sell, no expertise of any kind. The only 177 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: thing Hunter could ever sell as a cracked out, fifty 178 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: some year old loser, is access to his powerful father. 179 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: Hunter never had a business. Joe has a business. Let's 180 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: talk to Chip about that. 181 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: Joining me now. 182 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: A great congressman from the state of Texas, Chip Roy 183 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: was involved in this Hunter deposition today, although he is 184 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: extremely limited in what. 185 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: He's allowed to say. 186 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: So Chip, I'm gonna do what's very difficult for me, 187 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be delicate. I'm gonna be really really 188 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: delicate here, and I'm just gonna kind of. 189 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: Open up the floor. 190 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: I know you're only allowed to say a few things. 191 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: You were there, we were not knowing that. What can 192 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: you tell us about the Hunter stuff today? 193 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 194 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 5: Well, first, great to be on and quickly, I just 195 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 5: want to say some prayers for some of the people 196 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 5: in the Panhandle in Texas's some pretty bad buyers up there, 197 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 5: so we're all thinking about them, even though we're up 198 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: here in the swamp trying to fight for him. 199 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 6: And look, look, I can't get into the specifics unlike my. 200 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: Democrat colleagues who are all too happy to go to 201 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: the camera and Franklin break house rules. 202 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 6: We have specific Pacific house rules. 203 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 5: About not talking about a deposition why you're in the 204 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 5: middle of it. But I can say I think which 205 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 5: is important to say is that you know, nothing that 206 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: has been. 207 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 6: Problematic has changed. 208 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: Right. 209 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 5: We still know that we had fifteen to twenty million 210 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 5: dollars a significant amount of money flowing into the Biden family. 211 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 6: We know that this is money coming in from board 212 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 6: and sources. 213 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 5: We still don't have answers on things like the exact 214 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 5: amount of money flowing through in two Hunter Biden for 215 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 5: a sports car from dubious sources connected to his work 216 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 5: involving you know, the work in the Middle East and 217 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 5: work involved in Ukraine and so forth. And so you've 218 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 5: got all of these issues that we're dealing with, and 219 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: you've got issues like, for example, the big Guy, right, 220 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 5: that's that's probably the most well known issue in terms 221 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 5: of the way you referred to as Dad, And there's 222 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,479 Speaker 5: still no good answers. 223 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 6: On any of that. So, now getting the specifics of it. 224 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 5: All of those issues that we've been made aware of, 225 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 5: they all still exist, and I think that will continue 226 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: to be made clear. Democrats are going to try to 227 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: say again still that there's no there there, But the 228 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: fact is all of those things those were still there. 229 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: Chip, can you tell us that I'm not specifically talking 230 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: about today, but at any point in this whole process, 231 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: have we ever gotten an answer, even a lie about 232 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: what exactly the services or goods were they were sending 233 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: that way in return to as you said, fifteen to 234 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. 235 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: That's a whole lot of cheddar. There are a lot 236 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: of Americans who liked that kind of money. Do we 237 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 2: know even a lie at this point? What were you selling? Yeah? 238 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: Well, interesting that that may or may not have been 239 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 5: the center point of a significant amount of conversation among 240 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 5: many of us just now in a sort of private pullicide. 241 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 5: Without getting into the specifics of the deposition, I'll just 242 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: say we have no good answers on that. We have 243 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 5: no good answers on any specific deliberabals. We know that 244 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 5: there is you know, involvement in you know, liquified natural 245 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 5: for gas. Ironically, given that the current president Biden is 246 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 5: shutting down liquified natural gas terminals and preventing us from 247 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 5: being able to export that which would obviously help Ukraine 248 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 5: and frankly help our economy and minimize the use of 249 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 5: coal around the world if they actually cared about CO two. 250 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 6: But I digress. 251 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 5: My point is there's no real indication that there is 252 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 5: deliberables on these kinds of things. So look again, this 253 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 5: is in the words of in the law right race Ipsiloper. 254 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: That is a term that means the thing speaks for itself. 255 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 5: What we see here before us. We know that this 256 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 5: money flowed into the Biden world. We know that Hunter 257 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 5: Biden was neck deep in it. We know that Joe 258 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 5: Biden was present and around all of these conversations and dealings. 259 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 5: At some point, you just know it when you see it. 260 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 5: So we're going to keep out of these conversations and 261 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 5: you know, through the deposition. 262 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 6: Then we'll see what happens over the next twenty four hours. 263 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: At the end of. 264 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: Impeachment is not something I'm confident is going to happen. 265 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: This Tom Suzi or whatever his. 266 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: Idiot name is, This Democrat just got sworn into the 267 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: House today. Since Republicans, of course once again joined with 268 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: Democrats to bounce George Santos to the majority's even slimmer 269 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: look Chip, it's February. The end of February. We're not 270 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: getting a Joe Biden impeachment Arvey. 271 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I'm not going to project one way 272 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 5: or the other, but I will say, obviously that is 273 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 5: an enormous left. We're in the middle of an election 274 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: season for the people to be able to make a choice. 275 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, if I were 276 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: going to say that Joe Biden should be impeached, you 277 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 5: don't have to go through all of the imaginations of 278 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: what we're having right now with respect to the very 279 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 5: blatant and concerns and corruption involving Hunter. 280 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 6: You can just simply look at exactly what he's done 281 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 6: with respect to the border. 282 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: Right we did impach Allah Hendra majorcis appropriately. Of course, 283 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 5: the buck stops for the president, and the president of 284 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 5: the United States has completely abandoned his duty to secure 285 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: this country and he's endangering people like this young woman 286 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 5: Laken Riley and Athens, Georgia, which, by the way, side note, 287 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 5: did you see this jackass who's. 288 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 6: The mayor of Athens. 289 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 5: Going around trying to trump ever else when he's the 290 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 5: guy that made it a sanctuary city? 291 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 6: Like I can't even put. 292 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 5: It into words, the extent to which these radical progressive 293 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 5: Democrats are destroying our country, and these medium mouthed Republicans 294 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 5: are just sitting back and letting it happen. We talk 295 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 5: about defunding them, we. 296 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 6: Never do it. 297 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 5: We talk about holding them accountable, We won't do it. 298 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: The Speaker of the House right now should be looking 299 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 5: straight across to Chuck Schumer, and the President of the 300 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: United States is saying, look, here's what you're gonna get. 301 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 5: You're gonna get a continuing resolution that triggers the caps, 302 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 5: and you're gonna get HR two. 303 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 6: We're gonna send it. 304 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: Over to you, and if you don't like it, you 305 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 5: can shut the government down and we'll see you in November. 306 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: But no, we don't have the stones to do that. 307 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 5: We're just gonna sit back and say thank you, sir, mayam. 308 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 5: Another like Kevin Bacon and anlouse. 309 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: You know, speaking of Schumer. Here was Schumer today. 310 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 7: Johnson tried to answer, and he made it clear he 311 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 7: wants to do something on the border, but we made 312 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 7: it clear to him we can't tarry where the war 313 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 7: could be lost. And second, we wanted to do border 314 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 7: and have a tough, secure border plan as we showed, 315 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 7: we Democrats showed in this Senate. But he can't say 316 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 7: it won't do Ukraine until we get border. He's tried 317 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 7: to do border for six months and couldn't come up 318 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 7: with a single Democratic vote. 319 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Chip, let's set aside the Ukraine border insanity. 320 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: The meeting today one how badly are we going to 321 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: get it screwed? 322 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: Out of Republicans and Democrats meeting in the White House 323 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: in two the upcoming CR, we have not held the 324 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: line once so far, so you're gonna have to forgive 325 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: me if I'm not overly hopeful, but please tell me 326 00:16:59,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: I should be. 327 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: Well, my guess is what you're gonna have is probably 328 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 5: another two week type CR continued resolution, which I pose. 329 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 6: I will vote against, I will go speak out against. 330 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 5: Will end up with numbers that are probably similar to 331 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 5: the last CR where the Republicans are split down the middle. 332 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 5: Last time it was one hundred and seven to one 333 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 5: hundred and six. It'll be something close to that, a 334 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 5: big block of Democrats, and yet again we will move 335 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 5: a piece of legislation that more Democrats that will vote 336 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 5: for than Republicans will. But importantly, what we ought to do. 337 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 5: And this is where it gets confusing. Even though I 338 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 5: pose these short term crs, I do not oppose a 339 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 5: CR through the end of the year that would trigger 340 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 5: the caps, because if we did that, we would hold 341 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 5: defense and veterans flat and we would cut the non 342 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 5: defense bureaucracy by. 343 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 6: Seventy billion dollars. We would cut it by ten percent. 344 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 5: Now that's not as far as you and I would go, 345 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 5: but in this climate, if we can. 346 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 6: Follow existing law. 347 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 5: It was passed under the cap steal last year on 348 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 5: a bipartisan basis, which was weak, but it was caps. 349 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 5: We should follow it, and then we should have a 350 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 5: five over finishing on the border by saying, look, guys, 351 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 5: you want anything on Ukraine, you're not going to get 352 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 5: it unless we deal with the border. You want any 353 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 5: further spending on defense, You're not going to get it 354 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 5: unless we deal with the border. 355 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 6: Do you want more? You know? And you go down 356 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 6: that list. That's what we ought to do. 357 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: Congressman, keep fighting for us. I appreciate you. Man. 358 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: All right, hey, all that may have made you uncomfortable, 359 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: but I am right. 360 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: We have so much more. 361 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: Wait till you see this CIA Ukraine stuff whatever, before 362 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: we get to that. 363 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: Let's get to lone Star Transfer. 364 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: The time share you believe you're stuck with You're not, 365 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: but you think you are. 366 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: You see, you think. 367 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: You are because timeshare companies lie. Eventually everyone gets tired 368 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: of their time share. 369 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: They just kind of get. 370 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: Done with it. 371 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm done. I'm done. I'm done, and they want 372 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: to give it back. They want to let it go. 373 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: But the timeshare company then tells you sorry, you should 374 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: you should have checked out paragraph ninety. You're stuck for life. 375 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: You're not stuck life. Make one phone call. Lone Star 376 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Transfer will legally and permanently set you free from your 377 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: time share. They put it in writing, They even guarantee it. 378 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: They give you a time frame. 379 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: This is a family business. 380 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: Call them eight four four three one zero two six 381 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: four six. 382 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back. 383 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: You know what's weird the whole CIA Ukraine story. Have 384 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: you been studying this at all? New York Times is 385 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: even talking about this long before Putin crossed the border, 386 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: and looks like the CIA was involved in Ukraine, really 387 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: really involved? How involved? What is a story? Let's talk 388 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: to Mike about it. 389 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: Joining me now. 390 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: Mike bens He is the executive director at the Foundation 391 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: for Freedom Online. 392 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Mike, pretend. 393 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Like I just got here from the moon yesterday. 394 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: Why is the CIA involved in Ukraine? What's happening here? 395 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 8: The CIA has been involved in Ukraine for a very 396 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 8: long time. But most sort of relevant to this story 397 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 8: is we overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 398 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 8: twenty fourteen to kick off sort of the modern era 399 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 8: of the Ukraine Russia conflict. There was a president in 400 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 8: power there in Ukraine named Victor Yanikovich who had rejected 401 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 8: a trade deal that the IMF had wanted him to sign, 402 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 8: which would have effectively forfeited the economic sovereignty of Ukraine 403 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 8: to the euro Atlantic axis, and he signed a trade 404 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 8: deal with Russia at that time. And this was essentially 405 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 8: a stab in the back. It was perceived by the 406 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 8: US State Department and the UK Foreign Office and the 407 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 8: rest of the Brussels establishment of NATO, and so we 408 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 8: activated a rent to riot mob, a sort of January 409 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 8: sixth style insurrection, if you will, to get the Ukrainian 410 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 8: civil society groups that had received five billion dollars in 411 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 8: State Department, USAID and CIA cutout money through the National 412 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 8: Endowment for Democracy to run that democraticly elected president Victor 413 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 8: Yanikovich in Ukraine out of office and to install a 414 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 8: new president Ukraine who would be more appliable to so 415 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 8: called US interests. And I'm not even saying this pejority 416 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 8: of this is just a factual description of what happened. 417 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 8: Victoria Newland, the head of the US embassy there in Ukraine, 418 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 8: even confessed to this five billion being pumped in and 419 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 8: she was personally handing out cookies and water bottles during 420 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 8: the Maidan Revolution. Then was caught on a hot mic 421 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 8: with Jeff Piatt from the State Department as well hand 422 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 8: picking the new installed Ukrainian government Yats in York. The 423 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 8: new president after twenty fourteen was not elected by the 424 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 8: Ukrainian people. He was selected by the US State Department, 425 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 8: and that was even again caught on hot mic. So 426 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 8: whenever the State Department gives five billion dollars to a 427 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 8: network of NGO's network of so called independent media institutions 428 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 8: and civil society folks and NGOs set up to form 429 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 8: these rental riots, they don't just give five billion dollars 430 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 8: and leave. They effectively shepherd that money through CIA intermediaries, 431 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 8: the CIA, the Pentagon and the State Department all always 432 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 8: move as one through the interagency process. There's a much 433 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 8: bigger story here around the economics of Ukraine and the 434 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 8: European gas market, which which runs through this whole story. 435 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 8: But essentially, the CIA was instrumental in actually orchestrating the 436 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 8: overthrow of the Ukrainian government in twenty fourteen. And then 437 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 8: this New New York Times piece is fascinating with its details, 438 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 8: but it sort of starts the story right after the coup, 439 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 8: and even then, you know the details are quite but 440 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 8: I can pause there. 441 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: No, actually, I do want you to pause there. We'll 442 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: move forward with some more of Victoria Neuland and others. 443 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: I want to circle back to where you began about 444 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: how we felt knife in the back. 445 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: He says no. 446 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: To the IMF, he says no, he signs a deal 447 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: with Russia. 448 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: Were we knife in the back? 449 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 8: Well, this is what the official sort of story is 450 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 8: from the State Department. I mean, Victor Yanikovich has signed 451 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 8: multiple corporate deals with US companies, including a ten billion 452 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 8: dollar deal with Chevron between Chevron and the Ukrainian gas 453 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 8: giant Nafta Gas. But there has been a long play 454 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 8: here to privatize NAFTA Gas sell it off to and 455 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 8: I'm not being hyperbolic when I say this, but to 456 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 8: literally George Soros as well as other London financiers like 457 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 8: Bill Browder, to privatize that natural gas company and turn 458 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 8: it over to the foreign direct investment of Wall Street 459 00:23:59,200 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 8: in London. 460 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: And so there had been plenty. 461 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 8: Of economic deals that Yanikovic had been involved with on 462 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 8: the US side, but he thought that that trade deal 463 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 8: was too much, that would have again sort of forced 464 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 8: this mass privatization to the IMF, and he signed with Russia, 465 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 8: and so we sort of paint him as this kind 466 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 8: of dictatorial Russian puppet. But the fact is, at that time, 467 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 8: before Eastern Ukraine broke away, Ukraine was split, all of 468 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 8: Eastern Ukraine was effectively ethnic Russians, and so Ukraine's internal 469 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 8: politics reflected a very complex tightrope walk between the Eastern 470 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 8: and Western powers, and they had given much to the 471 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 8: Western Powers as NATO was attempting to fold Ukraine into it, 472 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 8: as they declared in two thousand and eight. But that 473 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 8: trade deal was perceived as too much and we thought 474 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 8: we could get away with it. The CIA and the 475 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 8: State Department and the Pentagon none of them were expecting 476 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 8: the counter coup that ensued when Crimea broke off and 477 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 8: then voted in an independent referend to join the Russian Federation, 478 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 8: and when when both of the major provinces in the 479 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 8: Donbass essentially declared themselves breakaway states and we're militarily backstop 480 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 8: by Russia. The US at that point had never really 481 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 8: prepared for a kind of physical conflict with Russia, and 482 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 8: so we're woefully unprepared for this counter offensive this Kiev fronted, 483 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 8: but you know, US and London backed military excursion to 484 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 8: reconquer those territories. That's what the CIA was doing from 485 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 8: twenty fourteen through twenty twenty two. These are these military 486 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 8: bases that are referenced in the New York Times piece 487 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 8: is completely omit the fact that we were funding and 488 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 8: financing through military aid and through all manner of you know, 489 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 8: sort of a humanitarian aid that goes into clandestine operations. 490 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 8: We were militarily backing the Kiev government's military reconquest of 491 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 8: the dawn Bass after they broke away in twenty fourteen. 492 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: The New York Times leaves that out. 493 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 8: Because it's unfortunately does not paint a very pretty picture 494 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 8: of US diplomacy in the years preceding the twenty twenty 495 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 8: two conflict. 496 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: Mike, before we get into more specifics on a macro level, 497 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: why are we so in love, or I should say, 498 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: involved with this area, with this regions, a former Soviet state. 499 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: They're always fighting each other, killing each other, this territory, 500 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: that territory. This guy owns this, that guy owns that. 501 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: And yet I'm listening to you here, and I've been 502 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: doing a bunch of reading on this for at least 503 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: a decade. It looks like we've been obsessed with this place. 504 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: What am I missing? 505 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: Well, you know the movie A river runs through it. Well, 506 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: in Ukraine, the energy runs through it. 507 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 8: I mean to answer this story fully, you know, requires 508 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 8: sort of a long scope over the role of military 509 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 8: and energy in geopolitics, But you know, the sort of 510 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 8: short version of it is Russia was a colony of 511 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 8: the US from nineteen ninety one to nineteen ninety eight 512 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 8: during the Eels and Years. Putin rose to power in 513 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 8: the ash heap of the Soviet Empire at a time 514 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 8: when its stock market had fallen to something like five 515 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 8: percent of what it once was, and having sort of 516 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 8: the US London access, privatize and sell off almost all 517 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 8: the key assets held by the Soviet government during the 518 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 8: communist era. 519 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: And the only two things. 520 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 8: That Putin had to rise to prominence again after nineteen 521 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 8: ninety eight were the fact that Gasprom and the Russian 522 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 8: gas market were still was the largest company in the world, 523 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 8: largest company, and that was because the entire Russian economy 524 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 8: essentially ran on Russian energy exports to Europe, which runs 525 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 8: through Ukraine. It also runs to Germany through the nord 526 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 8: Stream pipelines. Maybe that's a story for another day, but 527 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 8: essentially the Ukraine is the portal into Europe, and Russia's 528 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 8: entire economy is based on being able to sell its 529 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 8: energy to Europe, or at least it was before twenty twenty two. 530 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 8: If you could, if you could get Russia off of 531 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 8: the European energy market, if you could, if you could 532 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 8: kick Russia from Ukraine, then you could bankrupt Russia. And 533 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 8: if you bankrupt Russia, you also take them out militarily. 534 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 8: Russia opposes the US militarily in almost every region on 535 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 8: the face of the globe. I mean, the reason we 536 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 8: the President Obama did a land invasion of Syria, and 537 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 8: he was only repelled because of Russian military backstopping of 538 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 8: the Syrian government through the S four hundred missile systems 539 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 8: and others. Russia also has an arms robust arms industry. 540 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 8: It's sort of their second export other than energy, uh 541 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 8: to all over Africa and Latin America, providing arms to 542 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 8: groups that are that are being essentially in a locked 543 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 8: in a destabilization conflict with Pentagon back forces. So if 544 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 8: you can kill Russian energy, you kill Russian military, and 545 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 8: so there's a lot of upsides from the foreign policy perspectives, 546 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 8: you know, Establishment's perspective to kill Russian gas and then 547 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 8: have that essentially fall to US companies, and this is 548 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 8: classic sort of US diplomacy from the twentieth century. But 549 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 8: you have remember Russia and that whole Eurasian mantle. There 550 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 8: is something like two thirds of the entire world's hydrocarbons. 551 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 8: If you kick Russia out, now we control the you know, 552 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 8: we control basically everything from the Black Seed, the Caspian Sea, 553 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 8: everything from Georgia and Iserbaijan essentially falls falls into our 554 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 8: grasp as well. So if you can kick Russia from Ukraine, 555 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 8: you you basically win the entire Eurasian continent as well 556 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 8: as unfettered militarism around the world. 557 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: So there's there's a. 558 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 8: Million reasons to do it, and the fact that you 559 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 8: essentially rob them in the process by stealing a trillion 560 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 8: dollars worth of worth of energy energy market proceeds by 561 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 8: having US companies like Chevron, eggs On, Haliburton Shell in 562 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 8: London take the take over the market through LNG of 563 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 8: what Russia used to have through Gazprom. All of that 564 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 8: you would say, is you know, you'd make the argument 565 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 8: is just classic twentieth century diplomacy with how we built 566 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 8: our middle class by doing this to every other country 567 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 8: during the Cold War. But we were not expecting this 568 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 8: sort of robust military response from Russia. And it has 569 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 8: now sort of put the question to you know, to 570 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 8: a head in terms of how far the US is 571 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 8: willing to go to do its traditional. 572 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: Empire building as Russia going to win. 573 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: I get some mixed reports on this, but obviously a 574 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff is going to be resolved by 575 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: whoever wins this Russia Ukraine dust stuff. 576 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: What's happening now, Mike. 577 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 8: Well, it's hard to penetrate the fog of war there. 578 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 8: I mean, obviously things do not look good right now 579 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 8: from the US State Department's perspective. You know, there was 580 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 8: after losing a very significant amount of territory in Ukraine, 581 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 8: not the commercial sort of side of Ukraine, which is 582 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 8: Western Ukraine and Kiev, but the eastern portion of Ukraine, 583 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 8: which has all of the shale. 584 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: This is a very important point. 585 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 8: Barisma's gas rights as and and NAFTA gases hold. You know, 586 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 8: the they're basically market potential was being able to mine 587 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 8: the shale that's east of the Yeppa River there well, 588 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 8: that is now militarily occupied by Russia. So all of 589 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 8: the tens of billions of dollars of deals that were 590 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 8: signed by US and London companies to exploit those national 591 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 8: resources are now under the military protection and geographic control 592 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 8: of Russia, and that, like a pitbull, does not appear 593 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 8: to be loosening anytime soon. I think what the State 594 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 8: Department is ultimately going to try to angle to do 595 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 8: is to use infusions of another, you know, probably a 596 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 8: trillion dollars worth of US taxpayer money over the next 597 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 8: several years to bring things to an effective standstill and 598 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 8: not lose any more territory. I think that's that's the 599 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 8: only hope at this point. And then it basically strikes 600 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 8: some sort of peace fire, you know, peace deal c 601 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 8: spire on semi favorable grounds and then effectively upscale the 602 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 8: CIA's role to be able to in a cloak and dagger, 603 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 8: clandestine fact fashion, walk back on the sign deal that 604 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 8: they plan to make to take the country back while Rush. 605 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: Isn't looking good. Grief, Mike, that was freaking awesome, man, 606 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: Come back soon. I appreciate it. 607 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: What a miss, but interesting perspective. Right, history didn't start yesterday. 608 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: There's a long history there. All right, Let's talk about 609 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: just really briefly something that's fascinating about the twenty twenty 610 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: four election before we get to that. That's a lot 611 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: of international monetary fun talk and London talk, and it's 612 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: a long way of saying, there are some very bad 613 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: people who run this planet right now, especially Western civilization, 614 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: people who do not have our best interests at heart. 615 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: They they're best interest at heart, and so we have 616 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: to take steps, all of us to protect ourselves from 617 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: our own people. 618 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: I know that sucks, but that's where we're at. 619 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't tell you to buy gold or silver from 620 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: Oxford Gold Group because I like the shine of it. 621 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: I tell you that because precious medals are the only 622 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: way to keep yourself financially safe from these horrible people. 623 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: They're destroying the dollar. They're not even pretending like they're 624 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: gonna stop. 625 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: They're not. They're going to wreck your retirement too. 626 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: Let Oxford Gold Group get some precious medals in there 627 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: as well. 628 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: Call eight three three nine nine five Gold. 629 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: All right, they will take care of you. My family 630 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: goes there, my friends go there. 631 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: It's the only place I will go. Eight three three 632 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: nine nine five Gold. We'll be back. 633 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: Something interesting took place last night, and it's setting up 634 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: for something interesting that a bunch of people have seen 635 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: coming in the twenty twenty four general election. When I 636 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: say interesting, it could be wonderful, it could be horrible. 637 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: So allow me to lay this out there and let 638 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: me clarify before I say anything here. What I'm about 639 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: to say very well may offend you. If you get 640 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: offended by anything I'm about to say, remember I don't care, 641 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: all right. 642 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: What I'm about to tell you is the truth. 643 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: The American people in general in general do not like 644 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: the Democrat nominee or the Republican nominee Joe Biden Donald Trump. 645 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: I realized we're talking about presumptive nominees here. I'm not 646 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: talking about you, so do not send me your stupid email. 647 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: I love Trump. Stop stop. 648 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: The American people don't like either of them. Their unfavorables 649 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: are both through the roof. Their favorables are both in 650 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: the toilet for obviously very very different reasons, and a 651 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: lot of it's kind of crappy reasons. 652 00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter. 653 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: The American people do not like them. And there's something 654 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: else happening, and it's odd. You're seeing the dislike of 655 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: the candidates from within their own party, and it's something 656 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: people aren't discussing here in the primary process, Donald Trump 657 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: is running away with the Republican nomination. He's the most 658 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: popular Republican. Yes, all that stuff is true. Half Republicans, 659 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: forty percent of Republicans are consistently still voting against Donald 660 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: Trump in the primaries. Does that translate to the general 661 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: How much of the GOP base does he lose? And 662 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden? What happened in yesterday or yesterday Michigan is stunning. 663 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: There was a Democrat primary in Michigan yesterday over one 664 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: hundred thousand, actually over one hundred and forty thousand Democrats 665 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: showed up in the primary and voted uncommitted. And so look, 666 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: we'll get to reshoot to leave maybe in a second, 667 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: but I just want to lay. 668 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: This out for you. 669 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: Remember in November, it's it going to be all about 670 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: coalition building. Trump's going to be how many votes can 671 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: I bring in? Biden's going to be how many Democrat 672 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: votes can I bring in? How many votes can I 673 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: bring in? They're both going to try to. 674 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 2: Build this coalition or that coalition. 675 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: How much of each party's base will either of those 676 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: guys lose? Because the answer to that question may very 677 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: well decide the general election in November. It's crazy, right, 678 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: and some Republicans hate Trump for a variety of reasons. 679 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 1: If you'd like to know why Democrats, many of them 680 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: hate Biden, here's Rashida's lab. 681 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 9: Everyone, it's Rashida. I was proud today to walk in 682 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 9: and pull a Democratic ballot and vote uncommitted. We must 683 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 9: protect our democracy. We must make sure that our government 684 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 9: is about us, about the people. When seventy four percent 685 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 9: of Democrats in Michigan support e cease fire, President Biden 686 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 9: is not hearing us. This is the way we can 687 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 9: use our democracy to say listen, listen to Michigan, Listen 688 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 9: to the families right now that have been directly impacted, 689 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 9: but also listen to the majority of Americans who are 690 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 9: saying enough, no more wars, no more using our dollars 691 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 9: to fund a genocide. 692 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see which party's candidate 693 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: can corral the most of his voters in November. Interesting, 694 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: maybe horrifying, depending on how it turns out, but interesting 695 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: anyway enough, Alex Clark joins us next. 696 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 10: While twenty nineteen was not that long ago, you might 697 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 10: remember the dynamic we were living in in the late teens 698 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 10: in this country where you had President of the United 699 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 10: States speaking in the motion vile terms about people who 700 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 10: are foreign born, and you had that notion metastasizing in 701 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 10: places like Charlotte. 702 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 6: Still an evasion. 703 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 10: What I was. 704 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 11: Criminal, and you know what I thought about doing, crossing 705 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 11: the border to Mexico to get away from. 706 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: My cris son. 707 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 10: I'm gonna ask you to leave. 708 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. 709 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 6: He saved me and I no longer lift that wall. 710 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: That's like how much you do. 711 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,959 Speaker 10: What we wish to do is dignify everybody's humanity. There's 712 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 10: nothing in that resolution. 713 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 11: That's the wall you took, you know, Doc, hold the law, 714 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 11: not your feelings, nor nor your opinion. No, sir, you're 715 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 11: talking bs to watch right now. 716 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: That was the mayor of Athens giving a press conference 717 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: about the twenty two year old young lady murdered talking 718 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump. Joining me now, Alex host of The 719 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: Spillover with Alex Clark. Alex, I don't think people have 720 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: really accepted how truly evil these politicians are. They still 721 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: look at that gigantic ball of soy and they just 722 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: think he's naive or just kind of maybe a little 723 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: bit of a dork. But the truth is that guy 724 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: doesn't care if American women get murdered. In fact, he's 725 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: fine with it. They kind of deserve it in his mind. 726 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: That's how these people think. 727 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 12: There is no America at this point. In my opinion, 728 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 12: it's honestly terrifying. I cannot believe that this that we 729 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 12: are at this place where we are allowing this kind 730 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 12: of stuff to go on in the sake of diversity 731 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 12: and inclusion. 732 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: We just need to let people. 733 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 12: Pillage, rape, murder our women. Apparently that's how we're going 734 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 12: to get true inclusivity in this country. 735 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 2: It's unreal, Alex. 736 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: I've talked about this with other female guests I've had 737 00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: on in the wake of this, but I might as 738 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: well talk to you about it as well, doing the 739 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 1: Dad Jesse thing. It's not safe anymore in this country 740 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: for women to work. 741 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 2: Out outside alone. 742 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 1: I know that's freaking awful and that's unfair and it's horrible, 743 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: but that's the truth. When you allow eight million new 744 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: criminals into your country, women are going to have to 745 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: start adjusting how they live. And that's just the way 746 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: it's got to be. 747 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 2: Now. 748 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 12: We actually have obviously we have a significant problem going 749 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 12: on with the crime coming in from illegal immigrant immigrants. 750 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 12: But here's the other thing. And this happened an exit 751 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 12: down from Lacostel, Arizona. There was a woman who was 752 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 12: jogging nine am on a Friday morning, about exactly a 753 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 12: year ago, and there was a guy who had been 754 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 12: watching her pretty regularly do her little run, and he 755 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 12: had been recently announcing to people that he was using 756 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 12: non binary vay them pronouns. And this is a He 757 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 12: is a decent looking guy in his early twenties. I 758 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 12: believe he was twenty two years old, mixed race, attractive 759 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 12: guy that like you would see at the bar, and 760 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 12: he's not scary looking or anything, a normal kid. He 761 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 12: announced that he was using they them pronouns. He had 762 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 12: recently been fired from his job for how violent he 763 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 12: was getting towards women at work, and he decided he 764 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 12: told the police to murder this woman who lived right 765 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 12: down the street from me last year because he wanted 766 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 12: to be her. She was a twenty nine year old, 767 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 12: drop dead blonde girl. She looked like Barbie and he 768 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 12: wished that what she had naturally he could have. So 769 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 12: you've got this skyrocketing crime coming in from illegals, which 770 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 12: is fantastic. 771 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 2: I'm obviously being sarcastic. 772 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 12: You have that coming going on, and then you also 773 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 12: have the mental illness in the trans violence, non binary 774 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 12: gender violent stuff that we're seeing all of a sudden, 775 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 12: which nobody wants to talk about either of these issues, 776 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 12: and they are very very serious, Oh they are. 777 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: It's freaking horrible, and at least Axios has identified the 778 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: true problem out there. 779 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 2: This is a direct quote. If America were. 780 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: Dominated by old white election denying Christians who didn't go 781 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: to college, Trump would win the general election in a landslide, Alex, 782 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: I do want to apply applaud the American Communists for this. 783 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: At least they're clear eyed and very vocal about who 784 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: they think their enemies are. I wish the right would 785 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: do the same. 786 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: We should do the same. 787 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 12: This article is such a brain dead nothing burger. I 788 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 12: could plug plug in any group in this formula and 789 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 12: say any given Canada I did, yoga teachers mary Anne 790 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 12: Williamson would win the general election in a landslide. 791 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 2: Or how about if. 792 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 12: America were dominated by mystery solving teenagers, Scooby Doo would 793 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 12: win the general election in a landslide. If America were 794 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 12: dominated by black people, Michelle Obama would probably win the 795 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 12: general election in a landslide. I could do this all day. 796 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 12: The point is America isn't dominated by anyone group group. 797 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 12: The election anyone's game. This article from Axios is so 798 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 12: stupid and just I don't even know what it's supposed 799 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 12: to fear monger their their reader base. But they also 800 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,919 Speaker 12: bring up that you know they're saying this Trump would 801 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 12: win because we've got the slew of election deniers or whatever. 802 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 12: Election denying is the less new number one dig they 803 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 12: love to use against conservatives, right, we keep seeing that 804 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 12: you got are election deniers, but they never seem to 805 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 12: have a problem with that themselves in two thousand, two 806 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 12: thousand and four, or twenty sixteen. 807 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 2: Like usual, it's only. 808 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 12: Okay when they do it, So I'm sick of hearing 809 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 12: that trope. 810 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 2: Alex, I appreciate you so much. 811 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: All right, we have Light in the Mood coming up next. 812 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 2: You know what we need to do more for. 813 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: Light in the Mood videos, just innocent stuff that puts 814 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: a smile on your face. All the news is so 815 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: yucky and heavy. Right, kids outside shooting hoops, band cruises 816 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 1: by kids, sinks one gets the ovation. 817 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's awesome. I'll see them all