1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to 2 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much 3 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: for tuning in. Let's give a shout out to our 4 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: very own podcast Royalty superproducer mister Max Williams. 5 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Huzza, tell you. 6 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes. 7 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Tickety boo indeed, and shout out, of course to mister 8 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Noel Brown, they call. 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: Me Ben, and shout out to our UK listeners who 10 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: are cringing so hard right now. 11 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: We see you, we see you. I don't think you know. 12 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: I think it's all all well and good in terms 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: of gosh, what was I listening to earlier? I was 14 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: listening to U or there was a film where I 15 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 1: was watching a British actor doing a purposely bad American accent. 16 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: Oh, totally. 17 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: We are the ones with the accents, so we're very 18 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: conscious of that. We're we're returning to a subject of 19 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: continual fascination. You're on Ridiculous History, which is ridiculous royal deaths. Now, 20 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: you don't have to have listened to the earlier episodes. 21 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: There's some refs, there's some callback reps. 22 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: This is sort of an update, or at least an 23 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: escalation you know, but I think that one of the 24 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 4: reasons that it's so fascinating to look into these ridiculous 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: royal deaths because there were just so many more interesting 26 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: ways to die back then, you know, nowadays it's all 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: kind of vanilla for the most part, you know, but 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: like you know, heart attack in this old age, but 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: not in the days of your when anything could kill you. 30 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, And as of November eighth last year, there were 31 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: officially eight billion plus people alive, and just from the statistics, 32 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: the brutal numbers Game of reality, we know that there 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: have been a lot of very strange deaths. We're focusing 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: on royals because people in those upper echelons of society 35 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: tend to have more documentation around about their lives. Also 36 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: there they're, you know, a relatively small percentage of the 37 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: overall population. And let's see, we're gonna just give you 38 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: a sense of this how did Max put it? In 39 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: this episode, We're gonna see an example of man versus ocean, 40 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: man versus arrow, and versus share my favorite man versus chair. 41 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: You know, no. 42 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Spoilers, but one one walks. 43 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: Away the victor in that one. 44 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it might not be well it's gonna 45 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: be you think, is it? 46 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: Who think it is? It is? 47 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, like I said, there's just there were a 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: lot more options for for hilarious demises, you know, back 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 4: in the days. 50 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Or the heyday, the glory days of royalty. 51 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: Now it's you know a little more than a big 52 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 4: old paycheck and fancy digs and you know, the occasional parade. 53 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: And then you know, there's a coronation coming up the 54 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: United Kingdom now and this okay, let's let's get into it. 55 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do something on the history of coronations in 56 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: the future in a timely manner. Perhaps no promises, but 57 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: we can promise you. Our first story is a doozy. 58 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: There's a guy named William the second, which I feel 59 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: like is a weird Why does it feel distinguished to 60 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: be the third? But kind of like juniory to be 61 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: the second? 62 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: You know, it's a really good question because they don't 63 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: really indicate stature necessarily, it's literally just order of birth. 64 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: But you're right, something about the third really does just 65 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: feel a little more substantial. But yeah, so we've got 66 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: William the first, which also, you know, the first. 67 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 2: Is always the best, you know, because you're like the Og. 68 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: The Og William aka the Conqueror, as his name might imply, 69 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: he was killed during battle, but his body was actually 70 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: shoved into a coffin too small, A coffin too small. 71 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 4: And we've talked about this in the last episode. He exploded, 72 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: mm hmm, yeah, maybe a little maybe a little more 73 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 4: grand than that, but that's the idea. It all starts 74 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 4: from a pop and then kind of escalates out from there. 75 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 5: Right from the research, it wasn't the sound that was 76 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 5: the most starch. It was the smell. It had been 77 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 5: a number of days since he had died. 78 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the lamp rays that he was stuffed with. 79 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: No, he's not the lamprey guy. 80 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: That's Henry the First. 81 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: Oh, and I got confused every sincle because I thought 82 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: this, this is the guy that was stuffed full of lampreys. 83 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 4: But this was just literally a case of, like I said, 84 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: a coffin too small. 85 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Don't cut corners on the funeral, don't save shillings on 86 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: the coffin. 87 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: It's not worth it, you know. 88 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: But yet we also I love that you mentioned lamprey Guy, 89 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: which is our street name for King Henry the First. 90 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: Another first, you know, both of these fellas did not 91 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: die with the most or at least their ends were 92 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: not surrounded with the most dignity worthy of their stature 93 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: as the first. 94 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, William the first King, Henry the first part of 95 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: a family line that just had a tough time towards 96 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: the end. And I believe it was Henry the first 97 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: heir to the throne, King William the second who went 98 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: out in a bit of a conspiracy. Okay, if you 99 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: know this guy, if you're like in the inner circle, 100 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: you don't always call him William two. He also goes 101 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: by William Rufus, like you said, Nold. He's a son 102 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: of William one, the Conqueror. Our buddy Willie Rufus is 103 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: King of England from ten eighty seven to eleven hundred. 104 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: He does some big stuff. He makes some moves, you know, 105 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: he keeps Normandy and England politically tied together. But in 106 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: the in the process of doing this, he gets a 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: kind of nasty reputation. People say he's super corrupt, he's brutal, 108 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: he's a tyrant with an iron fist. And Rufus also 109 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: gets the name the Red not because he's super blood thirsty. 110 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: Here like King Joffrey about it. He's got a ruddy complexion. 111 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of like a bit of a of 112 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 4: a backhanded nickname, wouldn't you say? I mean, the Conqueror 113 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: sounds intense and cool, you know, But the Red that's 114 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 4: like sort of that joke in the wire about like 115 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: snot boogie. You know how one day you have a 116 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: running nose, the next thing you know, you're snop boogey 117 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 4: for the rest of your life. But you'd think a 118 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 4: king would have a little more say over their nickname. 119 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: But then I guess you don't really give yourself a nickname. 120 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 4: This is the nickname history gives you, or the people 121 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: give you. So sort of a double edged sword there. 122 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so, as was feudal custom at the time, 123 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: the eldest surviving son usually comes out on top in 124 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: inheritance games. So William the Conqueror bequeaths the Duchy of 125 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Normandy to his eldest kid, Robert to Curtose, and Rufus 126 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: the Ruddy aka Rufus the Red gets kind of a 127 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: door prize England, England is this consolation prize? 128 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: But wait, but is it in England better than the 129 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: Duchy of Normandy? You know, in terms of risk pieces. Wow, 130 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: that's fascinating. 131 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: So funny story is William the Conqueror was from Normandy, 132 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 5: he was French, so it's just like that was the 133 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 5: prize right there. And also another funny story when he 134 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: died riding his horse into battle, he was to go 135 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 5: fight Robert the Second, his son. 136 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Very big succession vibes. 137 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: Well, you know, we obviously love these topics and talking 138 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: about the royal deaths and you know, royal stuff in general. 139 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: But I can never get good at, like, you know, 140 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: navigating all of the names and the succession and it 141 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: just gets so like makes your head spin. 142 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: It's like it's like that fantastic Gabriel Garcia Marquez novel 143 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: One hundred Years of Solitude. A lot of people have 144 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: the same name the issue, you know what I mean. 145 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: That's why we need these street names. Oh which Willie 146 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: you're talking about talking about the Conqueror or the other guys. 147 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: Or the Ready or the rufous one. Yeah, exactly. So 148 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: let's get to the death. M hmm. 149 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: We're thirsty for blood. So it's August second, eleven hundred. 150 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: William Rufus was asleep in a hunting lodge. His hunting 151 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: lodge at New Forest. They had himself a bit of 152 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 4: a spooky even a real nightmare. 153 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 154 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: And we're getting a lot of this from Dominic Sandbrook 155 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: writing over a history extra. Let's just give you the quote. So, 156 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: according to one chronicler of the time, writes, Dominic, our 157 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: buddy Rufus dreamt that he was let blood by a surgeon, 158 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: and that the stream reaching to heaven clouded the light 159 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: and intercepted the day. 160 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: This is super trippy. 161 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: No bleeding was considered a legit medical operation at the time, right, 162 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: thought to relieve your humors, balance out, you know, your 163 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: colics and so on. 164 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: It's so goth, dude, that is so goth. His blood 165 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: went to the sky. Yeah, I mean the sun. Well, 166 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: the nightmare is extra god. But just the practice of 167 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: bleeding is so metal, you know what I mean. Like, 168 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: it's so medical. 169 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Maladies and treatments of the past are so in fascinating. 170 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: Imagine you walk into the doctor's office and the doctor says, oh, buddy, 171 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: I tell you what your problem is. You got too 172 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: much blood. Yeah, let's let's balance out those humors. 173 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, this dream, uh, he's having the old common 174 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: daily blooding and he just starts gushing, you know, like 175 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: a geyser fourth to the heavens. But Ben and Maxim, 176 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: I need a little help unpacking the last part of 177 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: this account. Uh the idea that the geyser of blood 178 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 4: clouded the light and intercepted the day. 179 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, eclipsed. Okay, it clips like, you know, like a 180 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: volcanic eruption can Yeah for sure. 181 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: Okay, so this is like doomsday apocalyptic type vibes. 182 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: The world is ending because this guy's dying. No ego 183 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: on this guy the. 184 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 4: Interpret that's really that's good. But there was another account 185 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 4: as well, right Ben, Yeah. 186 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh nol, I think you and I enjoyed this 187 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: because speaking of metal, William has a dream that I 188 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: think a lot of people have had in the past 189 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: where he meets the actual Facts devil and has always 190 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: shout out to front of the show vocal Bob for 191 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: teaching me the phrase actual facts. It just works so well. 192 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: The devil has some stuff to say to him, right, 193 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: that's right. 194 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: Well, he says that he's gonna He says, I'll be 195 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: seeing you real soon, buddy. This doesn't bode well, and 196 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: uh oh, William Rufus just wakes with a shriek to 197 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: servants to bring forth a light because he was really 198 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: concerned he needed some light in the space because he was, 199 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: you know, felt like he was being covered in darkness 200 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: and perhaps beckoned by the dark Lord himself. 201 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, okay, we've got to exercise some 202 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: empathy here. You know, everybody, I would imagine, at some 203 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: point in their lives has had a dream that is 204 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: so real and so disturbing that you wake up and 205 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to go back to sleep, and you 206 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: still sort of feel in between realities, you know, And 207 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: if you have a partner that you sleep in the 208 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: same bed with, you might even wake them up and say, oh, 209 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: this is crazy. I can't and you'll sound like a 210 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: crazy person. Oh yeah, because you'll be like there were 211 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: golf balls, but they were also eyes that turned into teeth, 212 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: and I had to like sell the teeth so I 213 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: could that one get out of jails after my teeth 214 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: fell out of my mouth as well. 215 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: It's a combo, but usually. 216 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: Thankfully, that kind of fugue state and that fear it 217 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: doesn't last super long. And that was the case with 218 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: William right, Like he got better vibe. 219 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: That's just feeling better. And you know it's funny too, Ben, 220 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: you mentioned that I looked. 221 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 4: I sometimes when I wake up in the morning, in 222 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: that kind of liminal space, I will have some kind 223 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: of mourning anxiety, and I google that and it is very, 224 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: very common because of levels of cortisol in the mornings 225 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: that are like higher, you know, the stress hormone. It's 226 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 4: something about if people are disposed to having like generalized anxiety. 227 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: Not to dox. 228 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 4: Myself here, but I think that's a pretty common diagnosis 229 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 4: for you know, many Americans, so I'm not alone there, 230 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,479 Speaker 4: but yeah, in the morning, those levels can be elevated. 231 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 4: So perhaps William Rufus also had a little bit of 232 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: generalized anxiety. 233 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: Which I would imagine a lot of people did back 234 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: then too. 235 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you don't know when you're gonna run into 236 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: a wolf or a bear, or the devil himself or 237 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: the devil. You don't know what your blood is gonna 238 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: go against the laws of gravity and blot out the sky. 239 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: You get into situations. 240 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: But again, after that, you know, time had passed that 241 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: direct feeling of anxiety, whether cortisol related or not. He 242 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 4: was feeling a little bit better, and he decided he 243 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: wanted to go about his day. It was very beautiful 244 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: that day, you know, in the old hunting lodge, and 245 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: I guess so he was there obviously on a hunting expedition. 246 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: This is like a getaway vacation thing. He was gonna 247 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: let some nightmare ruin his day. You know, he was 248 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 4: a big boy. He was going to sally Forth. 249 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: And as they're getting ready for afternoon of hunting and merriment, 250 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: one of the royal armorers gives the King six arrows. 251 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: William keeps for the arrows for himself and he hands 252 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: the other two to a pal of his, one of 253 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: his hunting partners, a nobleman named Walter Terrell, Lord of 254 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: You'll have to help me with the pronunciation here. Would 255 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: it be po POI? 256 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: Maybe poa pa? Yes? 257 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: Pa am not one hundred percent sure. Terrell, by the way, 258 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 4: a name lifted by Old George R. R. Martin in The 259 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: Songs of Ice and Fire. No, there was a very 260 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 4: wealthy kind of more of a traditional British royal family 261 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: that was depicted in that series and in the in 262 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: the TV series. 263 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: The Terrell's spelled differently here. But yeah, you're onto something 264 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: if you want to read the real life account of 265 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: George R. R. Martin Song of Ice and Fire. Check 266 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: out the historical event known as the War of the 267 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Roses Wars of the Roses. So this guy Walt has 268 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: street cred. He's got a reputation as being really good 269 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: with a bow and arrow. So according to this story, 270 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: they say, Rufus, who is in the mix here, says 271 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: what translates to good arrows for a good shot, And 272 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: all right, Willie divides up his hunting party. Most of 273 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: his entourage remains with his younger brother Henry, who Max 274 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: you healthily pointed out his lamprey dude on our show. 275 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: And the king himself rides off with his buddy Walt, 276 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: deep into the forest. And this is where the conspiracy 277 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: kicks in. There's a bit of a mystery, thank you. 278 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 279 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: And as usually is the case with these sorts of 280 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: historical events that are shrouded in mystery, there are multiple accounts, 281 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 4: and I think probably the most conspiratorial and kind of 282 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: famous version comes from a William of Malmsbury Malmsbury, and 283 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: he writes this, the sun was now declining when the 284 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: King drawing his bow and letting fly and arrow slightly 285 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 4: wounded a stag which passed before him, and keenly gazing 286 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: followed it, still running a long time with his eyes, 287 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: holding up his hand to keep off the power of 288 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: the sun's rays. Ben should he should keep it going. 289 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: At this point Walter tried to transfix another stag, but 290 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: oh gracious God, unknowingly and without power to prevent it, 291 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: he pierced the King's breast with a fatal arrow. 292 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: Poetry. 293 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 4: Ah, I love these types of accounts that are just 294 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: so you know, rich with drama. 295 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: A Dick Cheney moment, Oh can I see? 296 00:16:58,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? 297 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: Remember that's right, the whole Dick Chenny thing where he 298 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 4: he was, you know, wearing his I guess you know, 299 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 4: when you're hunting in modern day, you're not wearing cool armor. 300 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: You're wearing some dorky kind of orange vest. And even 301 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 4: despite that, Dick Cheney mistook one of his hunting buddies 302 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: as a stag or whatever beast they were hunting, right, 303 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: that's the official version. 304 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: And for a long time, you know, late night shows 305 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: made a meal of this and heavily implied that Cheney 306 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: had apparently been drinking and purposely like shot at the guy. 307 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: But but nothing was ever proven again, it's a mystery. 308 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: And so here's here's the thing. We establish Our buddy 309 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: Walt here is known for having good aim. He is, 310 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: according to the story, he's not a guy who was 311 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: likely to miss, right, especially in such a catastrophic way. 312 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: So a lot of people at the time, the town criers, 313 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: the other people at the court and so on, they 314 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: were kind of skeptical. 315 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: This is a way. 316 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're basically like what we're gonna call a 317 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: sniper in a few centuries. How could you have suddenly 318 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: been so bad at shooting that you shoot the king 319 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: in the chest. 320 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: It's a it's a reasonable question, Ben, It is a 321 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 4: reasonable question. I think it is. And you know, without 322 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: even taking into consideration any political motives of like reporting 323 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 4: it in the slanted way or whatever. It's a little fishy, right, 324 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 4: especially given the fellow's reputation Terrell, so fingers immediately pointed 325 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 4: in Terrell's direction, the thinking being that the King's brother, Henry, 326 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 4: who was around but not so close that he was 327 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 4: considered a suspect right, may have put Terrell up to it. 328 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it it doesn't smell great, right, This would 329 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 6: make an investigator suspicious in the world of modern law enforce. 330 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: But we do know what happened next. William's entourage, the 331 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: party that had split off earlier, they find the body. 332 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: And when they find the body, like in one version 333 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: of the dream, blood is pouring from the wound. They yeah, 334 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: they carry him in a cart. You know, they're trying 335 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: to do their version of triage like staunch the bleeding 336 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: and so on, but he's really leaking and there's a 337 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: trail of blood behind the cart as a result. Henry 338 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned just a second ago, is doing some crazy reasoning. 339 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: Right. 340 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: He's in a think fast situation and he's thinking, Okay, 341 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: my older brother, the Duke of Normandy, Robert is coming 342 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: back from the first crusade. If I act quickly, if 343 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I nimble and swift, we have to have a king 344 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: so that king can be me. If I get crowned 345 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: before Robert gets word of the death and before he 346 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: it's back. 347 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: So yeah, I've got a quick question. Let's take it 348 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: back to your analogy of the show succession. You know, 349 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: there are things like temporary CEOs, interim CEOs, so if 350 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 4: you're you know, in an emergency situation while the actual 351 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 4: air is out of the picture, but returning, wouldn't that 352 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: supersede your you know, kind of clutch crowning there? 353 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you. 354 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: Know, I believe it was a little Kim who pointed 355 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: out the importance of money, power and respect, right, and 356 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: he is going through that or order of operations. You're right, 357 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: it is sticky. If things are happening appropriately, then there 358 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: should be some interim ruler. Robert should be notified right 359 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: as soon as he gets back from the crusade, and 360 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: things should continue. If you want to flip the script, 361 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: like young Henry here, what you do is try to 362 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: take over the royal treasury. There at the money, and 363 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: then you get the power, and then you get the respect. 364 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: That's what he's thinking, and that's what the Little Kim's 365 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: story is all about. It's about this royal death. 366 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: No. 367 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: I think that's a really great piece of modern wisdom 368 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 4: to add some context here, because if he's got the 369 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 4: money and he's on the throne, then it becomes a 370 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 4: matter of the Duke of Normandy exercising his claim and 371 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 4: potentially starting a war, because if his brother's already entrenched 372 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: and has already got the seat and has access to 373 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: all the funds, technically he's in charge, so he can 374 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: exercise the authority that comes along with that position against 375 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: his own brother. 376 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: And he reaches Winchester that very night, in seventy two hours, 377 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: he is officially crowned king. So the question that remains, 378 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: which has yet to be solved conclusively, is whether this 379 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: royal death was an accident, an unfortunate slip of the bowstring, 380 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: or whether it was a planned hit and assassination. Either way, 381 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: it's really strange. There's the dream the guy had before, 382 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: which is on the nose, depend on the version, and 383 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: then there's there's another thing. We'll just maybe we end 384 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: it here. There's an even weirder version that of course 385 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: can't be proven. That says the arrow that Waltz shot 386 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: bounced off a tree and then impaled William. So maybe 387 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: it was an accident, maybe it was an assassination. Either way, 388 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: it changed the course of history. 389 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And we see seemingly arbitrary events like 390 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: this changing the course of history all the time. But 391 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: I will say, you know, to give a little bit 392 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 4: of you know, maybe points to the conspiracy angle. It 393 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: makes sense that the guy who called the hit would 394 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 4: want to be seen as having been part of the 395 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 4: punting party, and then his frantic ride back to you know, 396 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: be crowned was more him doing his duty, right. 397 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. 398 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: And also when you are a powerful person, there are 399 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: people who would inevitably see a benefit in your untimely demise. 400 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: But you don't always have. 401 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: To worry about the other people in the mix. Sometimes 402 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: you can't trust the furniture around you. Shout out to Bella, 403 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: the first of Hungary. 404 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, heavy weighs the head that wears the crown and 405 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 4: potentially gets crushed by the throne, not figuratively, right, this 406 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 4: is a wild This is a wild one. 407 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. 408 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: So Bella is the equivalent of a silver spoon kid 409 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: born into Hungarian royalty. His father Prince Vazoul, which is 410 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: such an awesome name name. Yeah, his father had been 411 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: a nephew of the Hungarian King Stephen I. Stephen the 412 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: First did not have a direct issue I meaning he 413 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: didn't have children of his own, and. 414 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: So the king. 415 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Bypasses Prince Vazoul and aims another nephew heir. 416 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: To the throne. Vazul doesn't like this. 417 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: He felt like he was he should have been next 418 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: in line, so he rebels he tries to you know, 419 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: he's got to be starting something, and it doesn't work. 420 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: He is captured and as punishment, he is blinded in 421 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 1: ten thirty one, which just seems brutal to me. So 422 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: Bella has a guilt by association thing going on. His 423 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: dad tried to overthrow the Hungarian regime, so Bella and 424 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: his siblings leave Hungary quick fasten, in a hurry. In 425 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: ten forty six they return, and they return because Bella's 426 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: eldest brother did succeed in regime change. His eldest brother 427 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: deposed the king, seized the crown. And now we have 428 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: to get this is weird. We kind of have a 429 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: weird day job at times because Noel, Now we have 430 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: to get into Hungarian royal customs of the eleventh century. 431 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's again, it's just sort of like 432 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: customs of succession. A lot of these things are you know, 433 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 4: very culturally based. It's not always you know, the eldest son. 434 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: Or whatever it might be. 435 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: In Hungarian custom, the crown is actually passed from brother 436 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: to brother based on seniority, and Bella was actually made 437 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: a duke and named the air. 438 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: So this is again a custom and the thing is 439 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: when you are at the top of an absolute monarchy, 440 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: you get to decide what the customs are. So while 441 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: they were away from Hungary, Bella's brother changed the rules 442 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: and says, I'm gonna nearitytypool. I'm I'm gonna name my 443 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: son the official heir. My son's only four years old, 444 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: but I don't know. He looks pretty smart to me. 445 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: How tough can it be to run a country. He'll 446 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: get the neck of it by the time he's you know, six, 447 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: maybe eight. So Bella doesn't like this. 448 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 4: Now. 449 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: Bella's like, I should be king after you, old man, 450 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: And so he gets together an army in Poland and 451 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: then goes into Hungary and says, we're going to keep 452 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: to the customs. It's the right thing to do, not 453 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: just because it's super awesome for me. 454 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 4: And there was a melee and the brother, who was 455 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 4: currently sitting on the throne was killed. Bella then, you know, 456 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: took his place on the throne and he was crowned. 457 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: And after he became king, there was an uprising. There 458 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: was a culture war, basically, and a large contingent of 459 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: people in the area said we're fed up with Christianity. 460 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: Christianity still kind of had new car smell in this 461 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: part of the world, because Christianity had only become the 462 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: official state religion a couple of decades earlier, and a 463 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: lot of people were vibing with it. They wanted a 464 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: return to paganism, returned to their pre Christian beliefs. And 465 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: Bella said, I hear you, And he raised an army 466 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: and he brutally crushed this rebellion. And then ten sixty 467 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: three he fights off a German invasion that's sent basically 468 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: by the Holy Roman Emperor, and he says, look, from 469 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: now on, Hungary is independent from foreign domination, be it 470 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: political or religious. But amidst all these opponents and all 471 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: this intrigue, there was one assassin he just didn't see coming. 472 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: You never see it coming. 473 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: Well maybe maybe you have a split second of reaction time, 474 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 4: but you know, no one ever suspects the very seat 475 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 4: that you find yourself seated in. M you know, the symbol, 476 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 4: the very symbol of your power. I mean, you got 477 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 4: the crown too, but the throne is a big one, 478 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 4: and it was a big throne, and it wasn't I guess, 479 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 4: I guess it needed a little maintenance. 480 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 2: It hadn't been anchored properly or or whatever. 481 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's we don't want to be too like 482 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: gleefully ghoulish year. But it is kind of funny because 483 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: a lot of time has passed. It's September. It's a 484 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: nice September day. It's ten sixty three. Bellow one is 485 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: in his summer palace in a town called Domos. He's 486 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: got all his all his top team with him, all 487 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: his senior guys, you know, his entourage, his officials, his 488 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: hangars on. They're gathered before him. He's walking up, he's 489 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: about the old court. I'm walking like the king in 490 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: Hamilton now and he so imagine high pomp and circumstance, 491 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: max the most ridiculous eleventh century music we have. And 492 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: then he sits down and what happens next? 493 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the whole chair basically just collapsed in 494 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: on him, and he did, you know, he was injured 495 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: pretty badly, but he was not able to be treated, 496 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 4: you know, in a timely enough manner. 497 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: And he did die a bit later. 498 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: And the throne never went to jail, never saw a 499 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: day in court. And even now, furniture cannot be prosecuted. 500 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: It's a huge miscarriage of justice. 501 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: It is, it is. 502 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 4: Indeed, I said, I'm just trying to understand because maybe 503 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: you can help us with this. How do you get 504 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: so horrifically injured just by falling through a chair? Like 505 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 4: I think we've all maybe miscalculated slightly and and and 506 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 4: you know fallen off No maybe just me. No one's 507 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 4: fallen off a chair before or. 508 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: Fall off chairs. Okay, I broke a chair at Joe 509 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: McCormick's house. I did. 510 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: I've done that too, especially if they're like some some 511 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: of those like outside chairs. 512 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 2: There the elements right right for me. 513 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: So, guys, I think I know how to explain it. 514 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 5: There was one time this back when I was like 515 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 5: in high school, I had a few friends over and 516 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 5: my buddy Josh was sitting in this like you know, 517 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 5: like like poolside chairs that laid out and stuff you see, 518 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 5: had it in there, and but it was a little 519 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 5: higher up. It was a weird chair. It was like 520 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 5: higher up do you expect? But the middle of it collapsed. 521 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 5: He basically went like that with sandwich, sandwich, And that's 522 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 5: what I'm kind of expecting this to do. 523 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: But you know, it's like you know it. 524 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: Right the headboard. 525 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: Let's call it really high, really adorned. You know, it's 526 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 4: made of wood, but perhaps adorned with metal or other 527 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: you know, precious stones or whatever it might be. But yeah, 528 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 4: it could have been very tall, and that could have 529 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: collapsed in on him, and with the pressure on that fulkrum, 530 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: it could have kind of broken his back maybe or something. 531 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: I mean, again, we don't have exact details here. 532 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: I'm working off the assumption that he also might have 533 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 5: got impaled somewhere. 534 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 2: Right. 535 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so these things are super heavy. It's actually 536 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: a little unfair for us to call it a chair 537 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: and not to make them look bad. But the whether 538 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: it be shoddy design or whether it be a lack 539 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: of maintenance. When heavy furniture falls, it can kill you. 540 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: People do die when furniture falls on them. 541 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: But if it happens in the forest and no one's around, 542 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: does it still make a noise? 543 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: You'd have to ask You'd have to ask our buddy 544 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Walt with the arrows. Yes, if you shoot a king 545 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: in the forest and it's just you and the king, 546 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: is it an accident or an assassination? 547 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: Right? 548 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: So we are going to end today's episode on a 549 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: bit of a psa right straight from the twelfth century. 550 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Here it's a PSA against operating a vehicle while inebriated. 551 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound all like Dad about it, 552 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, or like a driving instructor in high school. 553 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: But this story, this, this story is one to remember. 554 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: We're going to introduce you to William the Atheling, which 555 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: so it sounds so Skyrim, you know, it sounds like 556 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: a it sounds like a character class in Skyrim. 557 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: The Atheling also referred to as Adeline, which I think 558 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 4: just accounts for a language, you know, the translation or 559 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 4: whatever you know from I think Gaelic. But yeah, this 560 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 4: is the heir and legitimate son, the only legitimate song 561 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: with the claim of the throne of King Henry the 562 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 4: First of England. And he was ding ding ding. The 563 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: Lamprey guy had too many, you know, of his sly, slippery, 564 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: slimy delicacy friends and did not farewell. 565 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: Especially considered everybody was constantly pointing out that he was 566 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: allergic to him. Anyways, to check out King Henry's story, Yeah, 567 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: very unfortunate family. Eighthleen, by the way, is an interesting 568 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: name for this guy, or Adeline, as you said, because 569 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: it means it literally means Anglo Saxon, prince or noble, 570 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: so he's he's like William the Prince anyway. He's Duke 571 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: of Normandy in his own right because his father fought 572 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 1: these battles in France that forced the Norman barons to 573 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: recognize William as their duke. And William the eighth Leen, 574 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: as you can tell by his nickname, was pretty spoiled 575 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: as a kid, and folks thought he was such a 576 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: brat that he was going to be quote destined to 577 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: be food for the fire. 578 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: U Oh, that's like Luca Brassi sleeps with the fishes. 579 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: We don't know. 580 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: We will never know what his royal or geopolitical career 581 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: would have been like, because he died in an accident 582 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: when he was pretty young, and his death led to 583 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: absolute pandemonium in the country. 584 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 2: That's right. 585 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 4: In November of eleven twenty, after he made a visit 586 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: to France on royal business, there was a fleet of 587 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 4: ships that was being put together to ferry King Henry 588 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 4: and his court across the English Channel back to England. 589 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 4: He was seventeen years old at the time, and he 590 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 4: was meant to board the White Ship, which was like 591 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 4: the flagship of the English Navy, right, it was you know, 592 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 4: the most up to dates, you know, shiny and new 593 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 4: and very fast comparatively, you know, for the time. 594 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: It's like taking daz Camaro out exactly. 595 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's like taking the Camaro out if the 596 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: Camaro is the fastest jet in the country. So this 597 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: is a huge level of opulence. Willie is only seventeen 598 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: and he he turns it into a party. He gets 599 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: down with the bros. They get stupid drunk with the 600 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: crew of this ship. It's one of those things where 601 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: they the way I picture it, they're about to leave. 602 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: The Captain's like, all right, where it's time to go 603 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: on the white ship? All aboard, and then William the 604 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: athleen is going, no, no, one more round, Let's all 605 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: have another round you first, mate, grab a drink with me, 606 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: tell me about the life of a peasant. And then 607 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: after they get very very like multiple sheets to the wind. 608 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: The Prince and his gang we're talking about three hundred 609 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: people now get on the ship and they're gonna sail 610 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: across at night. 611 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is the same actually, the equivalent 612 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 4: of like you know, drunk fishing, you know, but like 613 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 4: with much higher consequences. They're like, you know, taking the 614 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 4: pontoon boat out on the lake, you know, with a 615 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 4: you know, but more like a yacht situation, let's call it. 616 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 4: And just you know, everyone's drunk, including the captain, right, yeah, yeah. 617 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: And King Henry had already sailed across several hours earlier, 618 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: so these guys are super drunk. They're hyping each other up, 619 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,720 Speaker 1: these these very very wealthy people, and an actual ship's 620 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: crew decide they're gonna make a race of it. We 621 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: don't know exactly how that went out. William the Athleen 622 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: was the type of dude who would maybe command people 623 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: to race. Anyway, they're all on board. They say, we're gonna, 624 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna lap the King. We're gonna catch up, and 625 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna beat him to England. This is 626 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: the white ship, it is the fastest, and they decide 627 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: they're going to go for it, and they're rowing their 628 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: keaster's off and they're all just housing wine, and the 629 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: drunk Prince and his friends are doing moral support, cheerleading, 630 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, row faster faster, yeah, frasher faster. 631 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 6: And. 632 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: Unfortunately the crew, which did pick up a lot of speed, 633 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: they spend so much time focusing on speed that they 634 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: didn't have a lookout. You definitely need a sober lookout. 635 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you do, make a designated lookout. Sin them becomes 636 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 4: a bit of a Titanic situation. They run aground on 637 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 4: a particularly nasty rock that splits the hall and they. 638 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 2: You know, eventually sink. 639 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: Hundreds of people die as a result, and one of 640 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: the people who dies is the Prince William the Athleen 641 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: is the only legitimate male child. A succession war begins, 642 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: a crisis of the state eight. King Henry doesn't have 643 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: another son, and so he tries to get his daughter 644 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: to be the official heir, his daughter Matilda. The Barons 645 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: sort of agree, but you know, they're being insincere. They're 646 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: waiting for Henry to die. 647 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: Which he did when he decided to eat a bunch 648 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: of eels. 649 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, it's all full circle circle of life. 650 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: So that he does die. 651 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 4: In eleven thirty five, and the barons flip flopped and 652 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 4: decided instead of backing Matilda to back his nephew, you know, 653 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 4: because of the whole him being a man thing and Missostrate. Yeah, 654 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: it was pretty big at the time. Yeah, for sure, 655 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 4: Stephen of bloih bloyse bloh b l o I s 656 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say bloy, but it might be blah blaws bloss. 657 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: That's a very odd name. Let us yeah, blow eye. 658 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: Who knows. 659 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a way, but we're gonna just go 660 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 4: with all of those potential options. And he did, in 661 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: fact succeed and claiming the crown because he was the 662 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 4: eldest male relative of the of the king Blueaw. 663 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 2: Can you believe it? It's Blueaw? Is it really? Uh? Huh? Yeah, 664 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: well done. 665 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 4: The more the more he know. But you know, we 666 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 4: talked about Mozilda kind of being in the game or 667 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 4: in play, and so Mazilda was like, no, that's not cool. 668 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 4: I will I challenge you. 669 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: You guys, Dad said, this is the uh is the energy. 670 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: But uh but also yeah, Matilda sees this clear enormous opportunity. 671 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: This is of course you're going to fight for this. 672 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: It is good to be in charge, right, And this 673 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: conflict between Stephen and Matilda leads to almost twenty years 674 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: of civil war. It's now collectively known as the anarchy. 675 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: It only ends when they reach a compromise, Stephen being 676 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: recognized this king says Okay, Matilda, your son will be my. 677 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: Heir, and yeah, compromise, Yeah, could have been worse. 678 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: I mean sure, yeah, there's that. And so uh Matilda's 679 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: son ascends to the throne eventually and is crowned Henry 680 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: the Second when Stephen dies in eleven fifty three and 681 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: founds a dynasty which would go on to rule England 682 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: for centuries, all because of an ill advised drunken boat race. 683 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 684 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the dull drunken boat race thing 685 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 4: really does feel very succession, very on brand for just 686 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 4: kind of modern debauchery. Like I said, it just the 687 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 4: idea of like absolutely we've seen The've seen the film 688 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 4: Triangle of Sadness, Ben I have, Yeah, yeah, yeah, just 689 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 4: you know, drunken, opulent boat Shenanigans abound on that in 690 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 4: that particular film. Highly recommend it. I I haven't seen it. 691 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 4: It's a lot. 692 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of fun also to have a cocktail on 693 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: a boat, you know, I'm not above it, but never 694 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: when you are driving. 695 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 2: Never when you are driving or piloting the boat. 696 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: Right, you sit in the back, watch the sunset, you know, 697 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: maybe see a dolphin, sip a cocktail and stay away 698 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: from the helm. 699 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 4: Definitely do unlock yourself in a cabin and start spouting 700 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 4: communist manifesto shenanigans over the intercom. 701 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 2: Maybe read the room, you know, read the boat. 702 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: And with this we are going to call it a 703 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: day on another episode of Ridiculous Royal Deaths. Shout out 704 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: to our super producer, mister Max Williams. Shout out to 705 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 1: our resident opponent Jonathan Strickland, who once back in the day, 706 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: believe it or not, years. 707 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 2: Ago, would appear on our show. 708 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 4: It's true and I do believe that will come in 709 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 4: time when he will appear again. This would have been 710 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 4: a good opportunity. 711 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 2: He loves, he loves royalties, he likes he likes doing 712 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 2: arch voices too. 713 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 4: He's a big fan, but also hughes Thanks Chris for 714 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 4: uciotis here in spirit he was Jeff co man Max Williams, 715 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 4: who did the research on this episode and also is 716 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 4: our super producer, extraordinary. 717 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: And shout out to any Royalty present or future who 718 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: is tuning in today. 719 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: Let's see you next time, folks. 720 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 4: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 721 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 4: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows,