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Speaker 1: Hey, well, welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is all

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Speaker 1: ball al basketball, all the time. Let me get you

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Speaker 1: a couple of thoughts here. Put my guy, Dan McDonald

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Speaker 1: joints his danza um an evaluator. You can follow him

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who has um, he's done. He's

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Speaker 1: And he works in a place called Lake Point Sports

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Speaker 1: was in Kenneesaw, Georgia. He's also a Bills fan, which

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Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. We'll get to all that

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Speaker 1: with Dan McDonald, who can follow on social media at

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Speaker 1: the Dan McDonald upcoming. Before we get to that, though,

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Speaker 1: let me give it my thoughts on the Lakers and

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Genie and Polinka versus Rich Paul and Lebron.

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Speaker 1: There have been many instances where Lebron has tried to

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Speaker 1: their initial thoughts was probably can we not just take

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Speaker 1: Lebron James as well. Kind of run your own team,

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Speaker 1: But is there any chance of ownership? There is there

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Speaker 1: any chance that we could own l A own the team.

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Speaker 1: I think Jennie rebuffed that do. I think Genie has

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Speaker 1: given in to some of his demands and requests. Sure

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Speaker 1: they did go after Tyler, but they weren't willing to

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Speaker 1: great coach. And I would say you probably should have

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Speaker 1: gone past three years or given him more money up

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Speaker 1: front for it. Um But you look at so many

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Speaker 1: guys on this roster and they're there for one reason.

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Speaker 1: Why is Mellow there? Lebron? Why was the Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 1: they move in move Mounts for Anthon Davis? Lebron? And

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Speaker 1: so at some point there has to be some accountability

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Speaker 1: for it. You made this, you gotta fix it, right.

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Speaker 1: Kate can't. And so when the story that Lebron or

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Speaker 1: Rich Paul, they're unhappy that Polinka wouldn't go after John Wall.

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Speaker 1: Like look, John Wall has been a disaster in terms

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Speaker 1: of winning basketball games in both Washington and Houston. Houston,

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Speaker 1: Houston values him so much that they're they're paying him

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Speaker 1: not to play at forty plus million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: And there's not like all these other playoff teams are

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Speaker 1: moving mountains to try and get them. This is just

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Speaker 1: trying to find somebody new to blame for the fact

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Speaker 1: that Lebron is not gonna win a championship this year.

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Speaker 1: And I do agree with the sent I I'm not

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Speaker 1: floor are, but I would call his bluff on this one,

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Speaker 1: you know, saying you want to play with brawny. Look,

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Speaker 1: Brownie's not an NBA player. If you watched him play

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Speaker 1: the year, they play Harvard Westlake, he wasn't one of

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Speaker 1: the five best players on the court on either team.

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Speaker 1: You could make the case that his backups maybe should

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Speaker 1: have got more minutes than he did. Now that that's

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Speaker 1: not because he's on some random high school team. He's

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Speaker 1: But the point is, if he's an NBA prospect as

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Speaker 1: He doesn't stick out. And so now you're trying to

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Speaker 1: leverage your own career and tied to Brawny, which I get.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to get your son, trying to get your

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Speaker 1: people said no, we want Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrooks an

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Speaker 1: abject disaster the team. And this is where Polink is

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Speaker 1: at fault. Should have resigned Cruso anyway. But Russell Westbrooks

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Speaker 1: an abject disaster. That's the blood on the hands is

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to we'll talk about Southern hoops.

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Speaker 1: Why has it Georgia ever hit in college basketball? Let's

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Speaker 1: but you were good in high school? I was okay,

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Speaker 1: I was okay, what's that mean you not played on

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Speaker 1: to where so the four? Everybody in the old days

426
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: used to go like, okay, can you guard power forwards?

427
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Speaker 1: Like no, no no, no, if you're a four, you gotta

428
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Speaker 1: guard one through four. Yeah, exactly. So I like him,

429
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Speaker 1: but I love Jabari And then all right, what about

430
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Speaker 1: mon Carol? Yeah, it's me like I like he just

431
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 1: he's a much more explosive athlete I think than Jabari.

432
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: Like Jabar is athletic, but Jabari is not like explosive athletically,

433
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: whereas like I think a Paulo is just he's not

434
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Speaker 1: like he's elite in that category. I don't think he's

435
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Speaker 1: as skilled as Jafari. And I think the thinking about

436
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: j where Jabari has really grown is he's got a

437
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: much better and this I think this goes a coach

438
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: pearl but also a great high school coach, great travel coaches.

439
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: But they've and his dad too. I'm sure it helps

440
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: with this is he has a really good feel for

441
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: knowing how to play and knowing how a kind of thing.

442
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: Now there's been sometimes lately to Auburn where he kind

443
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 1: of fades. They either go away from him, and I'm

444
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: not sure what that's on him. Is that on the

445
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: guard play with that, but I don't get this sense

446
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: that follows on his level as far as just really

447
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: knowing how to play. I think he's got more natural goods,

448
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know that he's skill wise or just

449
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: i Q wise on Jabar's level. What do you think

450
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: about Tika Man? I love him. I think he and

451
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: I didn't watch a ton of Kentucky with a few times.

452
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: I think I watched a game rare sixteen assist or

453
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Speaker 1: something like, and he's shooting it now like he's good size,

454
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: good quickness. Um No, I think he's got the goods.

455
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: I do too. And I think the thing I like

456
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Speaker 1: about him most is I don't feel like he's a pig.

457
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Speaker 1: He doesn't feel like he's playing with an agenda of

458
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: trying to show everybody how radios just kind of plays basketball. Yeah,

459
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Speaker 1: And I think it's from that. I've seen the best

460
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Speaker 1: basketball Kentucky plays when he's round the point. I would

461
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Speaker 1: that one I would disagree with. I mean, I think

462
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: it just depends. You know, Wheeler gets sped up and

463
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 1: he's little, and he picks up the ball occasionally, you know,

464
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: too early in his dribble. But I mean, I know

465
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Speaker 1: I've seen him twice live and A and M did

466
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Speaker 1: a great job of uh you know, trapping him on

467
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: ball screens and he he he didn't he didn't look good, right,

468
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: He looked like the guy who it was a little bit,

469
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: a little bit too much. But even in that instance

470
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Speaker 1: where he didn't play well, in a couple of big

471
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Speaker 1: threees had a couple big drives, like kind of kept

472
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Speaker 1: playing through the fact that you can play well against Kansas.

473
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Oscar had an unbelievable game, but I

474
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Speaker 1: would tell you that Saveria was the reason that they

475
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: dominated because he was getting to the freeze line on

476
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Speaker 1: every misshot just pushing the ball and he had you

477
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Speaker 1: constantly on your heels. Now they could go to tie tied,

478
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: have him handle it and it's a different look, and

479
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: I agree with you is very good. But I think

480
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Speaker 1: the dynamic of how how fast they pushed that basketball

481
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: and how it it puts everybody on their heels and

482
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Speaker 1: then you can throw it up to tie tie, throw

483
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Speaker 1: it up to Kellen Grady. I think that's actually where

484
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: they're where they're at their best. But again back to

485
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Speaker 1: tie tie. So what is key in the NBA or

486
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Speaker 1: who is in the NBA? Man, I'm terrible the comparison game.

487
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I don't. I mean, do you have a

488
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Speaker 1: comparison that can kind of pick I'm trying to figure

489
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Speaker 1: one out. Yeah, trying to figure it out. I don't

490
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Speaker 1: have a great one. I do think, like if we're

491
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Speaker 1: talking just like, what's his upside in the NBA. Yeah,

492
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of really good starting point

493
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Speaker 1: guards right now, so there's there's only thirty starting spots,

494
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Speaker 1: So like I think I think there's a chance he

495
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Speaker 1: could be a starter in the NBA someday. Oh yeah,

496
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Speaker 1: I mean we drafted a position where it will actually

497
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Speaker 1: be a starter, so yes, yeah. I also think you

498
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Speaker 1: can play off the ball, which gives him an added

499
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Speaker 1: bet of it, you know, such a like for guys

500
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Speaker 1: like him, Like, I really hope that's something that more

501
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: young more like high school and college coaches really pushing

502
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: the guys being able to play off the ball, because

503
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: it's if you're a point guard that can't play off

504
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Speaker 1: the ball, like and you're with like six to like,

505
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: you're you're limited. Correct, Um, have you seen Ivy play

506
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: a bunch? Not a ton, but I've seen enough to know,

507
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: like he's with the first guard picked for one or two. Yeah,

508
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: unbelievab unbelievable athlete, defensive player, He's becoming a really good shooter.

509
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Speaker 1: What's what is the thing about him and Paolo is

510
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: they both had moms that were star players. You know,

511
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: all those moms was the all time lay scuoer at

512
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: Washington when she got done. And of course Ivy's mom

513
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: now the coach Dotter Dame Shoes Alma player as well.

514
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Speaker 1: So it's just interesting that we reached the point where

515
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Speaker 1: I moved. Had it before with Jabelle McGee obviously in

516
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: Pam McGee his mom, and there's been others, but this

517
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: is an interesting kind of stage for getting to an

518
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 1: hour having w NBA players. There's been more to just

519
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: like and not necessarily the sons that are super talented. Yeah,

520
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: and it's it's not always necessarily um like the biggest names.

521
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard more of that, like, oh, yeah,

522
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: that kid who's really good. Yeah, his mom played it

523
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: Tennessee or whatever. It is so as much as having

524
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: a dad that played the NFL or played college basketball

525
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: NBA like, those moms are important there too. Now no

526
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: question two sets of jeans, you know. Um, when when

527
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: we look at recruiting in the South, um, Bruce Pearls

528
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Speaker 1: staying at Auburn. Now, keep in mind he's been able

529
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: to play the transfer game a bunch as well, But

530
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Speaker 1: how uh how much can he repeat what he's been

531
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Speaker 1: able to do? In your opinion? You know what the

532
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 1: thing about Bruce Pearl that I love. And he's been

533
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: doing this ever since been Auburn and it will probably

534
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: changed a little bit now because, like you said, the

535
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: transfer portal is a little more open to him with

536
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Speaker 1: the one time Transfer world. But his staff has done

537
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: an incredible job at getting on kids early. Like you,

538
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: people can make all the jokes they want about you know,

539
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: he's had show calls he's a cheater, blah blah blah,

540
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: like no, no, no no, no. He got Shariff Cooper and

541
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: Isaaca Korro because he outworked everybody. He was at mckechern

542
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: High School and AOT games before everybody else, and he

543
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: got worked those dudes. He build relationships with the kids

544
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: and people around him to where they all want to

545
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: support Bruce Pearl and they all want some kids to

546
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: play at the Auburn for him. And you've seen a

547
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: kind of trickle over other kids in Atlanta like Jabari

548
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: and um they got Jalen Williams is from Atlanta, so

549
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: Walker Kessler. So I just I think with the way

550
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: he works and how good he and his staff are

551
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: and identifying guys that can get better and guys that

552
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: fit the way they play, I don't think this is

553
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: slowing down anytime soon. Now they're gonna is a lot

554
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: this year, like replaced at Walker Kessler and Jabari Smith.

555
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: Like that's that's not easy, and that's probably going to

556
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: be done Dred the transfportal. But I don't see that

557
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 1: Auburn train slow down anytime soon. What's the twenty two class?

558
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Like in State of Georgia, you know what, it's not great, Doug,

559
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: it's not great. Um, there's some good class comment behind us.

560
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: Not part of it is kids have moved out the

561
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: state to go to other schools or whatever. But you know,

562
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: and maybe the pandemic played a part in some kids

563
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: not developing the way they probably should have. But by

564
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta standards and some of the classes that we've had

565
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: come out recently, I don't this This isn't our best,

566
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Speaker 1: our best one we've had. It's interesting though, because if

567
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Speaker 1: you if you track, you know what happened when the

568
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: rens of roll mark for example, at the University of Washington.

569
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Speaker 1: It was it coincided with a couple of a couple

570
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: of lean years in Seattle. They were dominating Seattle recruiting,

571
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Speaker 1: and then Seattle just had a couple of kind of

572
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: lean years and he also lost some guy someone and

573
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Dones as well, and he kind of lost his lost

574
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: his footing and it was really hard to replace. It'll

575
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: be interesting because you know, if they hired Jonas Hayes,

576
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Speaker 1: for example, he comes into Georgia and he might he might,

577
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Speaker 1: he might get the best players remaining, you know, but

578
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Speaker 1: those best players remaining might not be at the level

579
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: of everybody else in the SEC. Yes, And I think

580
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: that's where regardless of who the coaches, I mean this this,

581
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: if it's him or if it's you know, then it

582
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: skates his names and thrown around. And you know, Grant mccastlan,

583
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of different all the good men,

584
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: major guys, you know who they are, um Nico Medved,

585
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: all those kind of dudes. But more so than really

586
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Speaker 1: being able to pluck the top high school ins in Atlanta,

587
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Speaker 1: And that's always gonna be important because I've always believed that, Lady, George,

588
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: Georgia tech, your best route to getting a good player

589
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: is gonna be somewhat locally. Maybe, like you said, you

590
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: pointed out that maybe that's not necessarily true George's Tech,

591
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: but I think Georgia definitely is. Yeah, but all, yeah,

592
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: you gotta build defense around the state. Yeah, if if

593
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: a kid goes away from to somewhere in the Big ten,

594
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: like Bruce Thorn's going up to Ohio State this year,

595
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it doesn't work out for him, like

596
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: you've got to you gotta get that one done, get

597
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: him back home like that, Like that's gonna be just

598
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: as it valuable having somebody that can get those transfers,

599
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: and as much as it is to get the high

600
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: school kids now, so that even if there is a

601
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: down two class, Okay, well, who are the best one

602
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: kids that went away that want to come back home now,

603
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: Because that's just as quick of a way to fix

604
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: your ostro, because it is to get the high school kids.

605
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: How much has and and maybe it hasn't, but you know,

606
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: for years the Atlanta Hawks didn't draw. They just didn't.

607
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: They were good, they were bad, it didn't matter, they

608
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: didn't draw. It does feel like Trey Young's kind of

609
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: a thing. He does feel like there's more energy in

610
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: in Phillips, especially last year in that playoff run. I

611
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: think it's it's kind of died down. The NBA is

612
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: kind of off the main radar here, But yeah, but no,

613
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: I think people are really kind I jumped on board.

614
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: They got hot last year and it's trays fun to watch.

615
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: It's kind of got a Steph Curry thing going on.

616
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: I definitely think he kind of build some young fans

617
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: up around here for sure. Well, it's interesting because you know,

618
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: part of what's happened, you know Oklahoma. Oklahoma has always

619
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: produced good players. But part of what's changed the energy

620
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: in that state of football state towards basketball is they

621
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: have the Thunder. Now. Obviously, Atlanta has always produced players,

622
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: and they've always had the Hawks. But when the Hawks

623
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: are kind of a happening and when you have a

624
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: cool player, it does sort of does sort of change

625
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: things a little bit. Have you Have you noticed that

626
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: at all in terms of uh And obviously you said

627
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: this is a lean year, but the depth of the

628
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: depth of players and athletes choosing basketball or football, No,

629
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: because because football is so like you know, with Georgia

630
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: wing and a state of the football this year, you know,

631
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: and the Falcons up until recently it always been good.

632
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's really shifted the dynamic too

633
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: much yet. I think that's more of a conversation like

634
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: if we're sitting here three or four years from now

635
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe beyond that that would be really kind

636
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: of interesting to look back on because you know, like

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Speaker 1: the Hawks had that run you know, four or five

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Speaker 1: years ago where Cooke Buoser was here and I think

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Speaker 1: they had the one seed the one year and took

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Speaker 1: the Calves a couple of games. But um, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: the Hawks, they just this is such a football town.

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Speaker 1: And then you know when the top of football season

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Speaker 1: is a brave season that that basketball it just does.

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Speaker 1: Even college basketball here just you know now that Auburn's

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Speaker 1: going to SEC is going you know, maybe they don't

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Speaker 1: have some influence. I don't know, but it's just it's

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Speaker 1: it's weird that like the high it's almost like the

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Speaker 1: high school a you've seen here is more people think

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Speaker 1: of with basketball in Atlanta than they do college or pro,

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Speaker 1: which I don't know if it's it's it's really true.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's Georgia's anonymous with great high school recruiting

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Speaker 1: in the Beach. Yet no no question like that if

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Speaker 1: you go to Augusta, like I mean, they could move

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Speaker 1: that thing to a big venue and filled out if

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Speaker 1: it was there, because it's I mean it's the best

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Speaker 1: players in the call to with the U I B L.

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Speaker 1: And then they have a community there that's used to

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Speaker 1: that coming in. They support the heck out of it.

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Speaker 1: When do you think that thing became that big? You know,

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Speaker 1: I think from for the peach Damn. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: like it's always been big, right, But I think over

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Speaker 1: the last decade or so so I've been doing the

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Speaker 1: rival stuff. I think it started a labor eight two

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Speaker 1: tho nine, and I think in the last eleven and

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Speaker 1: a half years whatever it's been twelve and alf years. Um.

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Speaker 1: Social media with this little quick highlight reels of guys

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Speaker 1: like a Paula bank Era or Colin Sexton or whoever.

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Speaker 1: It is like social media, I think it's only helped

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Speaker 1: things like especially basketball, like with all the recruiting coverage

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Speaker 1: now and everybody's got a camera. If you go watch

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean you've been there, Doug, like if

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Speaker 1: you can zai and Williamson's playing like this and that

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Speaker 1: he's shooting on for that half is like media row

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Speaker 1: but deep and uh so, I think I think social

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Speaker 1: media has played a big role in helping you know,

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Speaker 1: grea hand and look at look at the overtime. You

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Speaker 1: know the facility they built in Atlanta, Yeah, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: everything and everything they've done is was just on those clips. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think that I think there's a reason they

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Speaker 1: picked Atlanta to coming because I know they look at

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Speaker 1: other venues in the city and then they decided to

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Speaker 1: build their own. But yeah, I think they know that. Like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, everything is so like work me working at

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Speaker 1: Lake Point, Like we've pretty much always had all the

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Speaker 1: shoe companies in right, and when you with all they

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Speaker 1: come in like it's it's a dug. It's amazing how

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Speaker 1: many people come in our building when especially Nike, but

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Speaker 1: even the other ones, like if Adidas has a guy

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Speaker 1: or und Normo's got Anthony Edwards or whoever, it is,

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Speaker 1: like it it's it's wild how many How big of

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Speaker 1: a draw that stuff isn't peel A Payne twenty a

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Speaker 1: day to get in, which I mean it's not cheat No,

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Speaker 1: And then you have a bay parking yeah you know,

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Speaker 1: and and you're just coming in to watch watch ball,

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Speaker 1: whether your kid or somebody else's kid. It's it's really

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Speaker 1: really really fascinating. UMU, the best young prospect in Georgia

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a twenty two, like the next Jabbar,

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Speaker 1: the next zion Is. You know, I think Scotch is

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Speaker 1: to be really really good because he just got such

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Speaker 1: a unique trait as Isaiah Collier. He's a five star

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Speaker 1: point guard, three class plays a wheeler. They pumped out

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Speaker 1: tons of players over the years. UM think about Isaiah Man.

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Speaker 1: He can really pass and it's not the always the

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Speaker 1: flashy pass. It's just he's he'll make the simple pass.

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Speaker 1: He can't make the flashy pass, but it's so effortless

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Speaker 1: for him to flick a quick one handed either hand,

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Speaker 1: like he's ambdextrous with his passing. I just it's six

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Speaker 1: four of the guy who became able to do that

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Speaker 1: and when he's really kind of grown to me is

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Speaker 1: I used to think he had a cool guy element

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Speaker 1: to his game, but yeah, he's kind of tightened it

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Speaker 1: up where he's become a little bit more of a dog.

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Speaker 1: He's come a little bit more of an aggressive score

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Speaker 1: to kind of compliment his ability to pass that I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got you know, all the big ones.

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Speaker 1: I think USC and U C l are on A.

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Speaker 1: He's got some California ties, Alabama, Florida state Cincinnati, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that list could expand any minute,

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Speaker 1: but uh no, I think he's got a chance to

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Speaker 1: be really special. I think he's ranked in the five

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Speaker 1: star range on every side. He's he's got a chance

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Speaker 1: to be really really good. Awesome stuff. Well, listen, I

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Speaker 1: enjoy your work. I want to get together Peach jam

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Speaker 1: this year, and I appreciate you join on the pot.

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Speaker 1: How can how can somebody somebody like just learned dam McDonald,

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Speaker 1: how can they follow your stuff? Yeah? So best plays

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Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter and my handles Now at the

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Speaker 1: Dan McDonald sounds ridiculous saying that allowed, but it sounds

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Speaker 1: pretty arrogant. But now that the Da McDonald on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and sending it's the same thing on Instagram, but more

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Speaker 1: of my basketball contents on Twitter, So um, that probably

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Speaker 1: the best place to find me. Awesome, great stuff, man,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. And let's do it again. Just

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Speaker 1: do it again sometime you're in the spring. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: My thanks to Damn McDonald. That stuff was amazing, easing,

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Speaker 1: simply amazing. Um, I'm really I love it. I love

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Speaker 1: talking high school hoops, recruiting hoops, and the thoughts of

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Speaker 1: what the future is gonna look like for the University

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Speaker 1: of of Georgia. UM, we got more pods up coming.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna preview all these conference tournaments. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: more in depth. I got part two coming of of

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Speaker 1: Steve Lapis as well as some others. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: tell friends about the pod. It's a pretty fun place

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