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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. It is a week of the Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous podcast. We're breaking down Matt's latest episode this season. Ashley.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to break it down quite yet because

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Speaker 1: obviously we have a long podcast to do. We have

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Speaker 1: some very special guests coming up. We also have some

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Speaker 1: headlines and everything like that. However, to start out this thing,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear what you think. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: this is the best episode of Matt season, and I

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Speaker 1: think that is one that I am most passionate to

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Speaker 1: break down. What do you think? Really, I'm actually mind

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Speaker 1: boggled by that. Um, I did not feel the same.

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Speaker 1: I felt like it was sort of a continuation of

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Speaker 1: last week. I think his best episode so far was

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Speaker 1: probably episode two when Bree had her date. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: so funny, but that's great, Like, I love that that

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Speaker 1: way we are not on the same page and it

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Speaker 1: makes for a more interesting conversation. Yeah, unlike most weeks, actually,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been able to really like catch up obviously. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's the launch of my book Alone in Plain Site

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Speaker 1: this week, which is a big deal, and so I've

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Speaker 1: been busy. Actuley has been really busy as well, and

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Speaker 1: so we haven't got to talk about our opinions at

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Speaker 1: which kind of makes this podcast fun because we probably

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Speaker 1: it sounds like we'll come from this from two different angles. Actually.

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Speaker 1: To get us started, I want to just let everybody

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Speaker 1: know once again that about our live virtual event. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The hundred promo codes the event have been used, but

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Speaker 1: stay tuned for more info. I think we're gonna make

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Speaker 1: something else happen here. There's still meet and greet packages available,

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Speaker 1: which will include a copy of my book Alone in

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Speaker 1: plain site, which comes out February second, which is probably

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Speaker 1: the day that you're listening to this podcast. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: can visit events dot looped live, dot com, slash almost

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Speaker 1: famous that will be in the show notes as well,

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Speaker 1: Uh to get a ticket. A portion of the proceeds

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Speaker 1: from the live event will go to save our stages.

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Speaker 1: This is a big deal for us for me really personally.

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Speaker 1: My friends like Ashley are being kind enough to give

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Speaker 1: help bring in uh some friends of ours talking about

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Speaker 1: the book and talk about life. Uh. We like doing

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Speaker 1: virtual events. This isn't something that's like uncommon to us,

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Speaker 1: but this is a big deal for me, So Ashley,

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Speaker 1: thanks for agreeing to do it. Yeah, and if you

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Speaker 1: guys want to know what Save the Stages are UM

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Speaker 1: the foundation. It goes to helping all the places that

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Speaker 1: have been closed for like a year now because we

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Speaker 1: can't have big theater performances and stuff. And federal aid

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Speaker 1: is on the way, but as it comes, UM a

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Speaker 1: lot of neighborhood independent venues are still at risk for

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Speaker 1: closing forever. So UM you can find out more information

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Speaker 1: on how to save local music that whole scene UM

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Speaker 1: at save our Stages dot com. Yeah, it's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's a lot of things lost

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Speaker 1: right now, but I was just talking to a friend

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Speaker 1: know the theater industry they're nervous. I would say nervous

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Speaker 1: still a lot of questions on will they be able

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Speaker 1: to get back, So it's important for us. All the

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Speaker 1: events dot looped live dot com slash almost famous. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's events dot looped live dot com slash almost famous

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Speaker 1: for tickets. Hey, ash Uh, let's take a break here.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna recap the episode. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have Natasha Parker on the episode. Natasha Parker has

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Speaker 1: blown up recently. She's everywhere. She's doing great things. She's

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Speaker 1: a co host of the Clickbait uh podcast and also

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Speaker 1: was a contestant on The Bachelor Peter Webber's season. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna go through Bachelor headlines. Uh, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a great episode. But we'll be back with the

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Speaker 1: almost Famous podcast. Ashley. I mentioned my take on this episode.

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Speaker 1: I think was Matt James best showing all. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: You disagree, but we're gonna talk about that all as

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Speaker 1: we break down this week's episode. And to start this

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Speaker 1: week's episode, we started with a rose ceremony. Ashley, take

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Speaker 1: And this is what this is a shining moment from

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Speaker 1: the way that he gives Anna so much like grace

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Speaker 1: that Anna gets eliminated for and she's probably gonna earned

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Speaker 1: a huge lesson from it to you know, not accuse

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Speaker 1: sort of relate to this because for as like Studley

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00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: as Matt is, he also says that he's never been

428
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: in love, and I feel like he also has just

429
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: like a little bit more of a sense of innocence

430
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 1: when it comes to deep relationships. And you know, this

431
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: was a beautiful moment. I want to go back a

432
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: little bit here to Rachel and say there's a moment

433
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,719
Speaker 1: that she became like, um my top probably after this

434
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: episode is when she goes, I've never owned a pair

435
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: of shoes over forty dollars and she puts these shoes on. Yeah,

436
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: it's like there's probably underestimating, but you know, yeah, but

437
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: like there's an appreciation, there's a gratitude, there's a holy cow,

438
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: this is a special moment kind of thing. And it

439
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: also is kind of what Matt was saying during the episode.

440
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, you know this is great, but this

441
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: isn't where I'm gonna live forever. We're not gonna be

442
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: able to do these kind of dates forever, and and

443
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: so you have to take them, you know, with a

444
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: grain of salt, but also be appreciative for him. And

445
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: then you yeah, like you said, you get to that

446
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: evening portion I think is a viewer, you can go, well,

447
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: there's great music playing, there's depth there. Um And I

448
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: honestly thought, Ashley that you were gonna hear Matt James

449
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: is a few weeks into this go I'm in love

450
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: with you. Like I thought he was gonna do it

451
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: three different times this episode. I really did, but he

452
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: never did. He kind of like he didn't, but like,

453
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: I think that could be a storyline that we watched

454
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: as the season goes on, because I think Matt is

455
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: like head over heels for a few of these women.

456
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: I think I don't think he knows what to do

457
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: with himself, and I think he's gonna start expressing emotion

458
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: very openly and honestly. Uh. But you know, to summarize

459
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: this date, do you agree with me Ashley that this

460
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: felt like now the first day other than Breeze, Uh

461
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: and maybe last week's one on one, but like this

462
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: is a big date to now build on. Like, I'm

463
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: invested into their story as a couple from here on out.

464
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: I've been excited for this moment between them because when

465
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: I was there on set, I just felt it so

466
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: much between him and Rachel that I was looking forward

467
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 1: to seeing a one on one. I was like, I know,

468
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm not getting to know all the women here. It's

469
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: a group day I have. I don't know what they're

470
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: like eight to ten on there, But there's something about

471
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: this girl who's like speaking to me as like just

472
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: having the energy of somebody that I want to be around.

473
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: And I can see it in his eyes that she

474
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: is the one in this group to watch out for.

475
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: And yeah, when she says I'm falling in love with you,

476
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: I was so excited but also totally saw it coming

477
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: because of the expression on his face that he was

478
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: going to say totally feel the same way. I mean,

479
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: he even says, I can see myself proposing to you,

480
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: like I don't remember this early on. We're still pretty

481
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: early on in this season for somebody to be that

482
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: direct on the first one on one do you? I

483
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: mean is that common? I feel like there's been a

484
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: time or two and the Moose people always get to

485
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: top two. Oh, I think I think if I put

486
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: money on, I think of Vegas were throw odds on Rachel. Uh,

487
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: she's definitely, uh the favorite right now? Well, actually that

488
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: moves us. I mean, Rachel's dates incredible. This is why

489
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is Matt james shining moment because I

490
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: think through every segment so far in this episode, um,

491
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: you and I would say that that this is Matt James.

492
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: Some of Matt James's most intimate moments, some of his

493
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: most direct moments, some of his best moments. He carries himself. Well,

494
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: he's honest, Uh, he's intuitive, Uh, that's what I'm saying.

495
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: I think this is Matt james best episode. I felt

496
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: like it was just coming out party to finally say

497
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: this is how the season is going to go. So

498
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: if we're Matt, I mean I almost always give Matt

499
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: an a plos like just always knows how to carry

500
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: himself in the right words to say. Um, I just

501
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: felt like it was so bogged down with drama at

502
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: the beginning in the end that that's why I didn't

503
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: like which I didn't love this one, but I always

504
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: love Matt Well. We have the heart of the episode

505
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: without drama. Obviously, it's hard to have drama on a farm. Uh.

506
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: There is a group date and uh, Matt is a

507
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: country boy at heart. He said he grew up on

508
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: a farm, he worked on farms, and now they're in

509
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: the farm now. So it's kind of funny because Rachel

510
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: goes in this beautiful date that we just talked about.

511
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: It's a fairy tale date. And hey, being on a

512
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: farm's an incredible experience. I have been on many farms

513
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: in my life and it's a great way to spend

514
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: a day. It's a great way to spend a career. However,

515
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: it ain't a fairy tale, and there's no dresses and

516
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: nice uh high heels and shoes involved in this, So

517
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny to see the switch where the

518
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: girls are now having this shovel poop uh For Matt Ashley,

519
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: did you enjoy watching this date? Yeah? But they're just

520
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: really two standout moments when I look back on it,

521
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: and that is this was the part of the episode

522
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: where I started thinking, like, oh man, m J is

523
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: a mean girl. She seems like a girl that I

524
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: don't want to be around in that house. And then

525
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: the other big standout moment to me is that makeout

526
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: session with Piper. Holy crap, he loved that he had

527
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: an excuse to run over to Piper and he did

528
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: not want to stop kissing her. Well, the sad part

529
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: is or sad or whatever you wanna call it. You know,

530
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: at this point in the episode, I don't know if

531
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: we knew enough about m J to say either way,

532
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: but I think we're all getting the sense that, yeah,

533
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: like in J's up to something, Like there's definitely the

534
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: mean girl aspect in her. I think Matt's really into her, though,

535
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: so I think we have to watch out for that.

536
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: I think he really wants her to be around, and

537
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: so he throws the egg. He goes running. I think

538
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: MJ thinks that this is a really cute moment for

539
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: the two of them, like really nice moment for the

540
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: two of them. So she's gonna chase after him, and

541
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: then she gets her sights. She runs the corround the

542
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: corner and gets her sights back on her man and

543
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: he's making out with a different girl, like that look

544
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: on her face, like her heart had to drop. How

545
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: I I think she thought this was going to be

546
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: their moment to make out, but yeah, he had other

547
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: things in mind. So my question for you, because I

548
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: was watching this part of the episode, he just like

549
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: ran through the barn right and and Piper just happened

550
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: to be over there for an interview and he just

551
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: decided to step into dark kissing her. That's how this

552
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: played out. Yeah, And immediately seeing that, I was like, oh, Piper,

553
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: she is off that dark Horse list and onto the

554
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: top list. I mean it looked like it they And

555
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't just like a kiss. This was like a hey,

556
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: I know cameras are here, I know, like you're doing

557
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: this a statement, but it was a statement you're right,

558
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: it was a statement. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about

559
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: the nighttime portion of the state. We had of another

560
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: shining moment with Chelsea, who we loved the moment last

561
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: week with when she talked about her hair. She is

562
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 1: apparently very uncomfortable and awkward with boys, which I love hearing.

563
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it when a girl who's

564
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: like so beautiful and like carries yourself with confidence admits

565
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: to still being awkward with boys. I guess it's a

566
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: relatability factor. Um, But Matt is Um, Matt is just

567
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: saying he looks at her, he looks at her good,

568
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: and he says that he's just really happy that she's around.

569
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: Talk about liking each other. I don't know. I really

570
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: like the two of them together. There's like so many

571
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 1: girls that I feel something with. UM. I have no

572
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: idea where it's going to unfold from here as far

573
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: as eliminations go, well, and I mean that's the thing

574
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: is right now, I think we could have probably stopped

575
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: uh and just look at this list. I mean, this

576
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: episode has a lot to it, right. We have two

577
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: rows ceremonies, Um, we have a bunch of one on ones.

578
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: We have a couple of group dates, like there's a

579
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: lot that goes on, uh during this episode, But once

580
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: that first row ceremony ended, I wonder if you agree

581
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: with me, and I would say that there is like

582
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: a really solid group of women left and there isn't

583
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: anyone that I'm looking at now as I look at

584
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: the you know, people left, and I would go, yeah,

585
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: they're on the edge, like they're going to be going home.

586
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: There's a few people. I would say, Serena, see, I

587
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: would say m J. I would say Joe, Senya. Okay.

588
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: So basically what I'm saying, Ben is like I can

589
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: predict the next row ceremony or two, but after that,

590
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm mind boggled. And that's a great place for finally here. Actually,

591
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm trying to get to is

592
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: we're finally here at this season where we're like, I mean,

593
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: with Tasia, we kind of knew this at this point

594
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: in time that she was in the Zack, right, I

595
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: mean even two weeks after she showed up with Clear,

596
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: we knew she was in the Dale. Like we're back

597
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: to a season where it's like I have no idea

598
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: where Matt is going. I have some favorites, and I

599
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: know he does as well. Were that's very obvious to us.

600
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of potential suitors here. They're

601
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: lot of potential women left that we don't know of.

602
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: And I think Matt, this is maybe the best part

603
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: is Matt is super conflicted but also super happy that

604
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: he has this group of women left. I think the

605
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: conflicting part is something actually beautiful because He's going, I

606
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: got a lot of great women, and I don't always

607
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: know what to do about it, but I've got a

608
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: lot of great women and I'm gonna see where these go.

609
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: That's a fun thing for us to watch his fans.

610
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: That's something that we can get into that is enjoyable

611
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: to us. So to finish up the night portion portion

612
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: of this group date, uh, we did have some great conversations.

613
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: It was really really beautiful. Um and he gives the

614
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: rose two Abigail, Abigail. He gives the rose to Abigail. Finally.

615
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: We see more of Abigail finally, And I mean, how

616
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: frustrating must the last couple of weeks been for her.

617
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: We've we've never doubted their relationship, we never doubted their connection.

618
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if she really has either, but it's

619
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: gone weeks now, and it's a way to doubt it

620
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: this week because we've seen eliminations like Kayla's and Laurens

621
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: were like they get roses or they make a splash,

622
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: and then they're just gone with no explanation. I was like,

623
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: holy crap, is Abigail going to be like the first

624
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: person who gets the first impression rose and then like

625
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: they're just gone a couple of weeks into it without

626
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: ever seeing the development of the relationship. But that is

627
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: not the case this week. Abigail sat down with him

628
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: during that group date and talked. It was so it

629
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: was like so very emotional talking about how if she

630
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: were to have kids one day, presumably possibly with Matt,

631
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: that the kids could be to be deaf, and that

632
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: wasn't it. She also talks about how her birth father

633
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: left them at a young age and how the two

634
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: of them grew up without having a very present dad.

635
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: It was, you know, she's held onto this and you

636
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: would have loved to see us during a one on

637
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: one where she got more time to explain it to him,

638
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: but it was happened during group day and it felt like,

639
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, for them, it was probably time to have

640
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: this conversation. Uh. It was like almost like I was

641
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: watching it, kind of like just like scrolling through my

642
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: phone watching the episode, and then this conversation started. All

643
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I found myself like looking up from

644
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: my phone and just being like put my phone down

645
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: and just being like, uh, in awe of their vulnerability

646
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: between the two of them. They're honesty, and it felt

647
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: like it got like it was a sign again of

648
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: like how good they are together, that they can talk

649
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: through stuff that's important to them, they can relate with

650
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: each other, they can show empathy towards you each other,

651
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: they want to support each other. Um. It brought Abigail

652
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: back up in my opinion, to being a favorite, like

653
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: a comfortable favorite here along with Rachel and and a

654
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: few others that we'll talk about. But like now I'm

655
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: now after that conversation, I'm like, Okay, adigas here to

656
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: stay for a bit. Yeah, I agree, it kept her

657
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: through for the next couple of weeks, but I still

658
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: want to see them have a one on one. Then

659
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: at the cocktail party partition, there's m J pops up

660
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: again and she is confronted by Matt by being one

661
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: of the girls that apparently said one of the bullying comments,

662
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: particularly one about Varsity versus j V. The JV is

663
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: referencing the girls who are newcomers, and you could see

664
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: her getting fiery. She got mad, and of course she

665
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: doesn't keep it in and she sits down with Joe

666
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: Sena and they have a sharing of words in front

667
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: of some of the other girls. What do you think

668
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: about this, did you? I mean, obviously the bullying is horrible,

669
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: and j V versus Varsity is a little bit of

670
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: a bullying demonstration, but like, there's got to be more, right.

671
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing is like there were there

672
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: was a lot of problems going on in the house,

673
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: and it was festering for a bit. Right. You have,

674
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: maybe if you want to like like wait them. You

675
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: have the direct bullying Brittany, You have the name calling

676
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: that Victoria was bringing. You have the constant toxicity in

677
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: the house where everybody was kind of walking on eggshells

678
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: for a bit, and then you have the comments coming

679
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: in from this new group and the kind of the

680
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: older group, the comments they were making, and so it

681
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: all felt like probably when you're living in the house

682
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: that it's all wrapped up together, that it's just a

683
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: mean spirited environment, that it's not fun to live here

684
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: because every turn we make, somebody's being mean to us.

685
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: And so the j V Verse Varsity thing, if it

686
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: was said once or if it was said three times,

687
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: there was already a sensitivity towards uh bowling or meanness

688
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: in the house, and so that just kind of got

689
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: added to it, like it was like, yes, once again,

690
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: somebody makes a comment that does not make me feel

691
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: any better about myself. It actually makes me feel worse

692
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: about myself. And who's behind it, well, as we see

693
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: it's it's m J. Now you know there there are

694
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: some things that Justine you is like complaining about, saying,

695
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: m J, you'r three. I see three different people in you.

696
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: I see the person in front of map, the person

697
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: you are when the cameras are off, and the person

698
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: you are when the cameras are just on you. I

699
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: see three different people from you, and I don't think

700
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: I see that. I can see that through m J

701
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: as having that kind of personality. Well, and it's now

702
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: getting brought up and Matt, Matt is now confronting it.

703
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: He's reacting to this, He's saying, hey, I might see it.

704
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: I might not, but I want to get to the

705
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: bottom of it. I want to see this. And that's

706
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: why we see him on A two and one later on.

707
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: But right here, we're out in the date. We're just

708
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: starting to become aware, um, that there's something going on here.

709
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: Now I will say that I didn't and I mean,

710
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: if I was picky, I didn't love the way this

711
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: was approached, not by Matt, not by Justina, but by MJ.

712
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: It kind of came out without allowing a free place

713
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: for people to speak. It felt like, you know, there

714
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: was a pressure into the corner. Uh, there was the

715
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'm an honest person, Um, I'm this, I'm that,

716
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: and it felt like if anybody were was going to

717
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: confront it, then they would have to get in an argument.

718
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: Now you can make the argument back and say, hey,

719
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: was it okay for somebody to go to Matt and

720
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: complain without confronting that person first. No, I don't only

721
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: ever think that's right. I don't think it's going on

722
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: the show or in real life. But it happened. And

723
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: so now we see this thing festering once again. And

724
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: as you said at the being in the podcast, it

725
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: felt like there was a drama up front, and there

726
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: was a drama at the end. We're gonna get to

727
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: that drama at the end. We're gonna see how that

728
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: plays out and what Matt wants to do with it.

729
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make MJ's actions any better. And I

730
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: am more interested now than ever to see how much

731
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: of the bowling she was a part of, because we're

732
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: getting hints of it right now, but we haven't got

733
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: the clear, the clear sign that it was enough for

734
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: Matt to send her home. But before we get two

735
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: kids one on one, let's take a break here. When

736
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: we come back, when a breakdown kids one on one

737
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: and then the two on one that we see at

738
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: the very end of the episode and everything leading up

739
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: to that. With kids one on one, I thought it

740
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: was going to be one of those one on ones

741
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: that we get. We have to get one on one

742
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: like this every season where the girl gets eliminated on

743
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: the date. I thought this was going to happen specifically

744
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: because it was like a half day date. It was

745
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: join me for dinner. Kit was very excited because it

746
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: was personalized to her. She had already opened up to

747
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: him about how her favorite place to be is with

748
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: her mom in the kitchen, and I was like, this

749
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: has getting eliminated written all over it. Between that and

750
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: the fact that we we've seen him with kid, but

751
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: not like a whole ton to think that this was

752
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: going to definitely be going in the right direction. And

753
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: I also just thought, yeah, that the fact that it

754
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: was a half a day date and that she she

755
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: met him when it was dark. I was like, this

756
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: is gonna be so easy to just eliminate her over

757
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: the dinner table. But that is not how it went.

758
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: I really like Kit. I think she's awesome. Um she

759
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: is very natural and super mature seeming for one year old.

760
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: And they had what both of them thought was a

761
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: great time just making cookies. I don't know if they

762
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: actually made dinner, but they had fun. They had a

763
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: good conversation. Kit talked about the stresses of being the

764
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: child of someone who is so successful. Her mom is

765
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: Cynthia Rally, and like everybody, whether you know it or not,

766
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: not everybody, but most people. A lot of people have

767
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: stuff that is cynthor Rally in their house. Like if

768
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: you shop at Marshall's, you can't go through an islet

769
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: Marshall's without seeing something Cynthia Rally if your home or

770
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: if your closet, and uh, I just I like, I

771
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: really liked the two of them together. I don't think

772
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: that she's going to get super far um, but I

773
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: think she's going to stick around for a few more weeks.

774
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: I like her. I think she's just got like a

775
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: noble kind of personality that I appreciate. There was a

776
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: lot of growth that we're seeing right now with Kit.

777
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: You know, she was even talking about like, hey, she's

778
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, her mom is very successful. She has these

779
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: expectations put on herself, but being on the show has

780
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: allowed her to kind of be herself again, to release

781
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: herself from expectations to not be a character. I thought

782
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: it was really great and I'm actually very intrigued to

783
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: see where it goes. I mean, I think she has

784
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: a lot to offer. I think she has a lot

785
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: of life experience to offer. I do think one of

786
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: the best things for her would be to know that

787
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: she doesn't have to live up to any title, expectation

788
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: or anything, that she can just be herself. And I

789
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: think if she's finding that now, I'm intrigued. Another storyline

790
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: that I'm interested in is to see how Kit grows

791
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: this season. I don't know if she'll be there. Man,

792
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: She's still not on my top four when it comes

793
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: to Matt, but she's up. She's moving up. This this

794
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: episode helped her UM and I thought it was a

795
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: great day for the two of them. I thought I

796
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: thought it connected them. But this was another moment where

797
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: I thought Matt was going to drop some like big

798
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: language towards her. Not maybe I love you, but like

799
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: I felt like he was really into her, especially as

800
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: soon as she walked in, he kind of put his

801
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: arms around her. They start kissing, they start cooking, they

802
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: they have this very intimate moment. I'm like, Matt really

803
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: likes this girl, or he wants to like this girl, uh,

804
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: which is a start. Uh. And And I'm I mean,

805
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: I was impressed with this date. I'm with you. I

806
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily think, like, you're always bet at that stuff

807
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: than I am. I didn't necessarily think, hey, I'm seeing

808
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: the writing on the wall and this is going to

809
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: end in a rejection UM or her going home. I thought,

810
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: this isn't maybe gonna go well. Um. But I wonder

811
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: if that was ever even in his mind. I think

812
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: he was into this whole thing the whole time. But

813
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: it was set up like that. It was kind of

814
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: set up for the Hey, let's make this quick, painless,

815
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: let's go home, this is done. Um, but it didn't

816
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: and she's still here. I think that um, Matt knew

817
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: going into that date that it would be good, and

818
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: we the audience didn't know. We didn't. But well, now

819
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: we have a couple of solid relationships that are forming,

820
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: but a few that are not. Uh. The show ends

821
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: with a two on one date m J and Josina.

822
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: We see them kind of argue uh during the row ceremony.

823
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: We now see them on the epic two on one

824
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: date that one person on this podcast knows very much of. Well,

825
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: it's different. Why haven't they been doing real two on ones?

826
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: This is the second season in a row where it's

827
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: been a meet me before the cocktail party type two

828
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: on one. Yeah, this is good. This is this is

829
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: this one though, is what I'm interested in because it's

830
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: fiery from the start. They sit down, they're both uh,

831
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: fiery and mad, one person speaking louder than the other.

832
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: The other person then start speaking louder than the other.

833
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: It is a mess, which makes me think, actually, here's

834
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna here's what I'm gonna believe that both

835
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: of them are going home after this to on one,

836
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: I agree because I don't think either of them have

837
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: really created a connection with Matt, so it's like he's

838
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: not losing somebody who's really developed feelings for I and

839
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: I think that's how this plays out. I also don't

840
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: think I mean, I don't know these women very well

841
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: right because we haven't seen a lot of them to

842
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: this point, But I don't think it loses a lot

843
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: of the up like of the season. I think if

844
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: we left, if these two women at home, I think

845
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: we're still moving on with some beautiful relationships. But uh,

846
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: we also see at the end of the episode kind

847
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: of for next week the girls are angry. S're gonna

848
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: She calls Katie uh the arsonist. Uh. Piper gets her

849
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: one on one, which I'm really excited to watch. Katie

850
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: calls someone pathetic, and Heather Martin joins the season, which

851
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: has got it like for any progress made to this

852
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: point with all of them kind of coming together, I

853
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: have a feeling that Heather Martin is going to take

854
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 1: the wrath of the House, And can I just say

855
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: this again, I don't want this to be a bashed

856
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: Victoria episode. I know everybody's going to do that this week,

857
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: but can we at least say that I'm really happy

858
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: that Victoria is no longer in the house when Heather

859
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Martin's shows up, because oh my gosh, that's sweet, little

860
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: innocent soul interacting with Victoria. Just she would have gotten

861
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: it would have been it would have been really hard

862
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: to watch. Well. Actually that's why I think, Um, this

863
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: episode is Matt James is best. I think it's the

864
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: best of the season. Uh, we're gonna rate this episode

865
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: like we always do, Ashley. What you're rating for Matt James,

866
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: what you're rating for the episode. Matt's gonna always get

867
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: an A and the episode gets a BE. For me,

868
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: Matt's gonna get an A plus from me, and the

869
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: episode itself is going to get an A minus, which

870
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: other than maybe the first episode, um, probably even not.

871
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: It's definitely my favorite of the season. I enjoyed watching

872
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: this one the most, I was most interested in and

873
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: I felt like viewers, you know, this season has very

874
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: publicly been very down in ratings. Um, I think some

875
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: of that is because viewers haven't gotten invested in any stories,

876
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: and I think after this episode, we're gonna see viewers

877
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: get invested in stories. And I think we're gonna see

878
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: this kind of like arch going up for the rest

879
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: of the season. And I think it's a great thing

880
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: for the show. I think it's a great thing for Matt.

881
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: I think it's an awesome thing for the contestants. And

882
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch the rest of at James season

883
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: as the Bachelor and his pursuit to love well Ashley.

884
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're having Natasha Parker on. She's

885
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: the co host of Clickbait. She's all over the place

886
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: right now. She's doing incredible things. She was on Peter

887
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Webber season of The Bachelor, uh and uh, and we's

888
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: gonna do some Bachelor headlines. So we'll be back with

889
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast. Well, as promised, Natasha Parker is

890
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: on our podcast. Natasha Parker has been up to a

891
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: lot in her life and a lot recently. She is

892
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: the co host on Clickbait you Can Listen To Whatever

893
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: You Listen To podcast. She was also on Peter Webber

894
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor eliminated Week seven. However, she is

895
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: a great co host. I was just on Clickbait very recently,

896
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: Natasha Parker, Welcome to Almost Famous. Thank you hi guys,

897
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: HIHN again and I just saw you last week. Good

898
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: to see you again. It's good to see you. Were

899
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: you on click bait last week? Then I was talking everything, gossip, everything,

900
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: clicky everything, book. Uh. It was a good experience. It

901
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: was a good time. It's actually where that headline came

902
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: from that said, hey, Matt James doesn't know anything. And

903
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not at all what I said.

904
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: I didn't say it like that, like come on, um,

905
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: but I guess that's what happens, uh every once in

906
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: a while. Natasha, Uh, you are busy with clickbait? How

907
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: did this all happen? Like, how did this work out

908
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: to have you come on as a co host? Well,

909
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: m where do we start? Tasha and Joe and hannah An,

910
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: as you know, were the original cast or the really

911
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: really original host for a Clickbait And Hannah Ann decided

912
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: that she wanted to do her other things that you know,

913
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: all the things that she has going on. She's cooking

914
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: her I mean, she's literally like I don't understand how

915
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: she has so much energy for Instagram. She is the instagraman. Uh,

916
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: and so she decided that she just wanted to kind

917
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: of start everybody off, and they were looking and I

918
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: started doing some testing with them. I of course have

919
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: been friendly with Tatia and I know Tasia. Joe's from Chicago.

920
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago. I had met him once before. And uh,

921
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: I think because I started doing these tea rooms on

922
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: Instagram Instagram Live, these little like tea rooms, people from

923
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: my season, people just saw that I was interested in

924
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: having conversations with people about almost any pretty much anything,

925
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: pretty much anything, And uh, I got a call to

926
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: do some tests and I was like, sure, Yeah, I've

927
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: always wanted my own podcast, so let's do it. And

928
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: then we just had a good vibe. They were looking

929
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: for a good vibe of Tassia and Joe since they

930
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: are the original co host, and we just had a

931
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: good vibe and I and I absolutely love it. They

932
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: are They're so funny, and we all have a very

933
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: different outlook on a lot of different things and it

934
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: just works. It does well. Um, you actually have a

935
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: pretty good background in media. You're a teaving producer, your

936
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: marketing director, you worked for HBO marketing for five years.

937
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: Is that what you were doing going into Peter season?

938
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: And are you still doing that? So I left HBO

939
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eighteen. But yes, I had a

940
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: full career for ten years working as a working in

941
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: production and as a producer. And I've always been behind

942
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: the scenes. I've always wanted to be behind the scenes.

943
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: I never wanted to be on the on the scene.

944
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: That makes sense, uh, And so I decided to when

945
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: I left HBO. It just really the the environment. It

946
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: was something that I mean, I worked so much all

947
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: the time and I was just ready. I just felt

948
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: very unbalanced. I was like, I'm going to give this

949
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: a break. And then I got into marketing and hospitality

950
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: marketing and that really served me better, I guess, for

951
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: my lifestyle. And then I got into yoga way more

952
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: when I had time to actually practice yoga and meditate

953
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: that then I became a teacher for that after Peter season,

954
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: and um, yeah, so event planned. I mean I was

955
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: doing events when I went to Peter season, and it

956
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: was all under the marketing umbrella and brand marketing for hospitality.

957
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: So you said that you never wanted to be on

958
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: the scene, and then how did you sign up with

959
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: the show? Well, that's another thing that was just very uh,

960
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: very interesting. I have a I have a friend who

961
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: is a producer on the show. She's been a producer

962
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: on the show for years, and she asked me many times, like, oh,

963
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: would you ever do the show? Wouldever to show? I

964
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, no no. And my always

965
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: my excuse was I'm not leaving my corporate job to

966
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: go beyond a TV show. I'm not doing it. So

967
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: when I finally left my corporate job just on my own,

968
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: She's like, well, you're still single, and you could potentially

969
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: fall in love with this guy who I've been spending

970
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: time with for the last two months, and knowing you

971
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: and knowing him, I actually think you'd like him. And really,

972
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I just finished an event. I didn't have

973
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: anything else coming up for the foreseeable, you know, month

974
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: or two. I was like, you know what, I'm spontaneous.

975
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: Let's just see what happens. I might leave the first night.

976
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know, And I just did it, like

977
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: on a whim. And I'm glad that I did, but

978
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: I am kind of mad at myself because I never

979
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: watched the show beforehand either, So that was it was

980
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: very hard to navigate and know what was going on.

981
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: And looking back when I watched the show, I was like, Oh,

982
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: she definitely knew what was going she knew to do that. Yeah,

983
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know to do that. Yeah I didn't know that.

984
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. You know, I didn't know to keep

985
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: my mouth shut, and I never kept my mouth shut. Yeah,

986
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: but you were so likable because of that. You just

987
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: kept it real and you said what everybody was thinking. Yeah,

988
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: And I got a lot of messages about that, and

989
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: and and it was almost frustrating for me because a

990
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: lot of times people didn't say things and I was

991
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: just like I literally looked at Peter as a boyfriend

992
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: and like, I know we were on a TV show,

993
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: but as a in real life, if you cancel a

994
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: date on me, I don't care what it's for, I'm

995
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: gonna be mad. So I gotta express that to you. Yes,

996
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: other girls were like, it's fine, it's okay, and I

997
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: was like, it's not. You're like, I have never watched

998
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: this show before, and I know what is right and

999
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: what's wrong in the world real world exactly exactly. So yeah,

1000
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: I I definitely. I don't regret not watching it though

1001
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: it was just coming off the show and being broken

1002
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: up with I would have like that was the first

1003
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: thing I did when I came home. I watched like

1004
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: there's like on YouTube all the like famous Bachelor breakups.

1005
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, great, it's not just me feeling

1006
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: like this. It's fantastic. Okay, good, Well that had to

1007
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. Nothing more said than that. Well, Natasha, Uh,

1008
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: you now find yourself as the co host of Clickbait. Um.

1009
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: Now we talked about how you got into it, but

1010
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: tell us about that podcast, Like, what are you hoping

1011
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: everybody kind of gets out of it? Where do you

1012
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: think this goes? I hope that when people tune in

1013
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: a clickbait it is somewhere where they can feel in

1014
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: attained but also get a real perspective and more of

1015
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: like an inside look, because as people know, if they

1016
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: did watch my season, I am going to say exactly

1017
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: how I feel, regardless of it's an unpopular opinion or not.

1018
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: And I think that in this Bachelor Nation world, we

1019
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: tiptoe around a lot of things. And yeah, we we

1020
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: tiptoe around a lot, and we don't have to and

1021
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: I think we're seeing more and more real conversations happening

1022
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: on the actual show, which is prompting hosts like you,

1023
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: like Ben, like us to talk about these real things

1024
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: that are going on and not being afraid of that,

1025
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: and and same thing with Joe, samething with Tassia. There's

1026
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: things that come up and we all have different opinions.

1027
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: So I wanted to be a place where people can

1028
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: here a real outlook on things, but also love and light.

1029
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm all about that in entertainment in general.

1030
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: So if we're going to have people come to our podcast,

1031
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: of course we want them to be entertained as well.

1032
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: And we want to you know, shoot this and talk

1033
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: to each other. And Tasia and Joe, let me, Tasha

1034
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: and I we go. We go in on Joe a lot.

1035
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: It's easy to do well, you know. The well brings

1036
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: us to this point, right, I mean, you do have

1037
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: your opinions you're watching this season, Um, there is a

1038
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: lot of topics to be discussed obviously that you can't

1039
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: really dance around, Like bullying is very much present right

1040
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: now in that house on this show. How what are

1041
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: your opinions? How have you confronted it? How do you

1042
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: usually speak upon these things. I try to give the

1043
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: ladies grace in general for going on a show and

1044
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: being so vulnerable on the show period. So I try

1045
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: to see both sides, like you know, especially on our podcast,

1046
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: if if Tashia and Joe feel a certain way, I

1047
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 1: try to be Devil's advocate and try to talk about

1048
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: the other way of it. I understand that bullying is

1049
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: a big thing on are in in this season, but

1050
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: I also understand that people take that word out of

1051
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: context a lot. We are seeing it on this on

1052
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: this season and making accusations about people that just you

1053
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: don't know are true, and making that a thing and

1054
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: being said, we do have to show people grace in

1055
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: that world. But the disagreements, you know, Ashley, me and

1056
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: you were dating the same guy, We're gonna have disagreements, right,

1057
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: Completely agree with what you're saying, because there are times

1058
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: in the house that they overuse the word bullying and

1059
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: you're like, that's not true bullying. That's like you being annoyed,

1060
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: that's like being a little sad. Yeah, that's you being upset. Yeah,

1061
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: you can't use that word, but in this case, yeah,

1062
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: it's it's true. Bullying and then to your other points

1063
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: when you are dating the same guy and you do

1064
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: have so many women in the house, like there's going

1065
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: to be natural drama and you're probably going to say

1066
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: things that you regret, Like I know, I sure left

1067
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 1: up quite a few times, but like you also kind

1068
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: of need to put it in context as to like

1069
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: where it's happening, and that like a person can have

1070
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: a slip and you have to be able to give

1071
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: them grace for that one slip. Now, if it like

1072
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: continues to be like a character pattern, that's totally different,

1073
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: which does seem to be like with Victoria. Yeah, but

1074
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: we want to there's something about owning it, own it

1075
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: own the fact that you were you see yourself now

1076
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: and you don't like what you see own that you

1077
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: know there. I'm sure there's things that you would have changed.

1078
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: There's things that I would have definitely changed on my

1079
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: season as well. But when it came to the Kumbaya

1080
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: mentality as well, let's call bullish on the Kumbaya mentality

1081
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: also because it's like everyone being happy. I was never

1082
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: happy and the other one on one and I didn't

1083
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: I was not happy. No, I remember distinctively this one

1084
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: time where I was like, this is bullsh guys, why

1085
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: are you like clapping and cheering because she got the

1086
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: card At this point in the competition, we're not happy

1087
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: for everyone, and you guys are being phony and I

1088
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: got I got a crap for that, but you're right.

1089
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: It's just like sometimes like let's just be a little

1090
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: real here, but not Victoria's style real. Well yeah, yeah exactly.

1091
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: And it also then brings us into this like you're

1092
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: watching the season, you're saying, uh, there's definitely some crap

1093
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: going on. But the one thing that's been um tough

1094
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: to watch, and we've talked about any times this podcast

1095
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: and weeks previous, is you know, the drama, the bowling

1096
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: that whatever has taken over the love stories. We only

1097
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: have to see a lot of these love stories unfold,

1098
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: and it's been hard to watch. Who are your top

1099
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: favorites right now for Matt, maybe like top three. If

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00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: you had to choose um for Matt, I would definitely

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00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: say Michelle. They're one on one, seemed magical, interesting, even

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: though she was brand new, even she just it just

1103
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: seemed like, yo, this is a like it was a fit.

1104
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: It was and you can tell he's very competitive. You

1105
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: also could tell that she's very competitive and like love

1106
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: her Bree as well. Bree I picked her from the

1107
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: way beginning just because of her story. It's very similar

1108
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: to Matt's as well. And she just seems even though

1109
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: she's twenty four, I think she's twenty four, she just

1110
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: seems very mature and like, I'm a woman with a

1111
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: plan and a mission. And after this week looking, you know,

1112
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: seeing him and Rachel on their date, he just lights up.

1113
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: He lights up with her, and their date was just

1114
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: so magical too. It's like, I think about Breeze date

1115
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: and she was all muddy, that's saying, look a nightmare

1116
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: for me personally, but she was such a good sport

1117
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: about it. But then I look at the shopping date

1118
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just want to be a princess.

1119
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all. So picking that date for her,

1120
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: I think it's also whoever got that date. He's definitely

1121
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: really into that person for sure. Yeah. So those three

1122
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: those are my those are my three. Al Right. Well, Natasha,

1123
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: we loved having you. It's so nice to meeting you.

1124
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: And you guys, if you want to listen to clickbait

1125
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: everywherehere podcasts are and it's not just about Bachelor click

1126
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: baby headlines. It's about like all pop culture, which is

1127
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: really fun. Yeah, we get into a lot of relationship

1128
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: dating stuff on our podcast and you can listen to

1129
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: us on the one dree app on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, serious,

1130
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: wherever you guys listen to podcasts, check us out. Well, hey,

1131
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: you're the best. Thanks for coming on, Natasha Park everybody,

1132
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: thank you guys. Well, it's time for Bachelor headlines. As always,

1133
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the headline. Ashley is going to educate

1134
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: us all on what is happening. I'll throw my two

1135
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: cents in there because I'm always confused, intrigued and curious.

1136
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: Ashley first headline is this, we're just kind of consolidate

1137
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: all these head because there's a lot about Clariendale recently,

1138
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: Um Claireendale. Yes, as we've spoken about many times, they

1139
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: have split. Um. Now both of them have came out

1140
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: publicly and talked about this split. Uh. Claire has came

1141
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: out recently talked little bit more Dale's back, um saying

1142
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: he's wrecked. Ashley, can you just catch us all up

1143
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: on what is going on with Clarien Dale? And we're

1144
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: as like, fans, where where do we need to stand? Well?

1145
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: I stand with Claire. Claire got on her Instagram live

1146
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, and she seemed to actually

1147
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: be pretty uppyat She talked about being in a dark place.

1148
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: Of course you're going to be in a dark place.

1149
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: Her mom has Alzheimer's. She said that she was just

1150
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: dealing with all you know, still like kind of suffering

1151
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: from all the backlash that she got on social media

1152
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: as being the bachelorette and then she had this huge

1153
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: public breakup, Like of course she's in a dark place,

1154
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: but she actually it really it seemed to be taking

1155
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: a turn because she's like she's feeling good. She said

1156
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: that on Instagram this week that she's happy about funny

1157
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: animal videos, getting to visit her mom, a new project,

1158
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: she's furniture shopping, she went on a trip with her

1159
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: sister just get out and get some fresh, snowy air

1160
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: in her lungs. She said that she's really loving her

1161
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: post pandemic trips, her music playlist and her friends reaching out.

1162
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: And in this video the Instagram live that I watched,

1163
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: she was really just talking about like how grateful she

1164
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: is for the little things that people have done for

1165
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: her to make her feel better during this hard time.

1166
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: She talked about being at the nail place and how

1167
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: they kind of like just knew what she was going

1168
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: through without you know, anybody saying anything because she's a

1169
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: public figure. They gave her a little massage. She just

1170
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: felt like she got like treated. She just feel like

1171
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: she got it really, you know, treated um because people

1172
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: just we're thinking about what she was going through, and

1173
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: she just said, just kind of be aware of what everybody,

1174
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: everybody might be having. You know, you never know when

1175
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: somebody's having a hard day, so like always go out

1176
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: of your way to add a little something nice to

1177
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: their day. She also talked about how, um, there was

1178
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: this TikTok. There's that phone viral where somebody on the

1179
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: platform posted a TikTok that they had just met Claire

1180
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: down in San Diego and that she wasn't friendly, and

1181
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: she was like, well, just want to let you know

1182
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: that I wasn't friendly right then because I had just

1183
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: had a panic attack and I went outside to get

1184
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: air and tried to recover from it. And I'm pretty

1185
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: sure it was also the weekend that she was breaking

1186
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: up with Claire, with Dale, So yeah, not the best time.

1187
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: So she's like, how about taking to consideration what people

1188
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: might be going through in the moment before you just

1189
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: slander them. It's a wild event. Uh. Their breakup has

1190
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: been it hasn't been clean, it's been everything and messy. Uh.

1191
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: And obviously there's been a lot of opinions going around.

1192
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: Now we don't know the insides and the out of

1193
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: what happened to really cause the breakup, but you know,

1194
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: there's been assumptions being made. Um, it just feels like

1195
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: right now, Uh, I guess we hope that like Claire

1196
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: can just move on from it because it feels like

1197
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: it could be all consuming. It sounds like she's doing

1198
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: a good job at it. Well. One of the relationships

1199
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: coming from that season was Tasia and Zach's. This is

1200
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: a really beautiful headline by people here. Bachelor A's Zach

1201
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: Clark opens up about navigating his sobriety in relationship with

1202
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: Tasia Adams. I think we read this headline because it's

1203
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: really incredible to hear how Tassia and Zach have worked

1204
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: together in their relationship already. I mean, they're pretty fresh

1205
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: themselves and helping carry each other's Burdens. Yeah, so basically

1206
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: never been in a relationship with somebody who's had who's

1207
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: been sober, so she had an open mind about it,

1208
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: Zack said. But she also didn't shy away from certain questions,

1209
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: like she even said if I drink, can I kiss you?

1210
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, you're good. He says that

1211
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: she kind of reserved time to learn about his sobriety

1212
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: during the season so that she would be able to

1213
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: understand him and what he goes through better. Um. He

1214
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: also said that she's exposing herself to his personal recovery

1215
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: and getting to know what that looks like, and about

1216
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: getting to know his sober friends, all while living in

1217
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: New York with him. It's really awesome to hear because

1218
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: obviously that was something that Zac opened up about on

1219
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 1: the show. It wasn't something that comes easy to him obviously, Um,

1220
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: but to hear that, you know, that's just a sign

1221
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: of an awesome relationship. Is where you're seeing the one

1222
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: partners say, Okay, I know that you're not You're coming

1223
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: into this relationship with stuff, right, all of us have stuff,

1224
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: And how can I best be a partner to you

1225
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: no matter what your stuff is? I don't know. I

1226
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: just I found that to be a really incredible thing

1227
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: and something that we should celebrate Tashawn and Zach uh

1228
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: in their relationship. And it's a good update. It sounds

1229
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: like they're doing well. Uh. Well, another headline from this

1230
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: season they came out is, uh, you know Sarah Trot

1231
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: who went home uh was being accused of having a

1232
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: boyfriend before and now after her exit from the show. Well,

1233
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: according to Entertainment Tonight, she is denying those claims Ashley,

1234
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: what do we know? First off, I want to mention

1235
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: she was This is not her rumored dating with um

1236
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: G Easy that was last March. Apparently she was dating

1237
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: another DJ DJ ju um His also his name is

1238
01:05:55,240 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: Ben Dorman, and they were reported by the Sun to

1239
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: having gone to Mexico in August. Um. But her rep

1240
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: which I have to roll my eyes a little bit already,

1241
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: she has management, Uh says Sarah unequivocally did not have

1242
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: a boyfriend before, during, or after her appearance on the Bachelor.

1243
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: She says that Ben and Sarah had a fun trip

1244
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: with mutual friends, and while their relationship may have been

1245
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: may have had some intimate moments between them, it did

1246
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: not lead to a relationship. She went to Cabbo single

1247
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 1: and came back single, and she's still on her journey

1248
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: to find love, which is why she agreed to go

1249
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: on The Bachelor a month or so after this vacation.

1250
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: And there we go. Well that's all we know for now.

1251
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: Bachelor's Queen Victoria Larson apologizes the fellow contestants amid accusations

1252
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 1: of bullying. The quote is, according to US Weekly, I'll

1253
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: do better next time. Well, is she referring to paradise?

1254
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: She assuming she's going to be in paradise. Um, well,

1255
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: she says that, I think in my effort to make

1256
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: my opinions heard, because we know she's all about her

1257
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: opinions being heard, like she discussed in that conversation with

1258
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: Katie last week, it may have been perceived as I

1259
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: was bullying by some and I feel if my and

1260
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: I feel bad if my words are actions offended anyone.

1261
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: I take each time each day to reflect and learn

1262
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: the lessons. Um yeah, I'm just like not really buying it.

1263
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: Like perhaps when I hear her verbally talk about it,

1264
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: I'll be able to have a better gauge on the

1265
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: authenticity of these of of this apology. But the fact

1266
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: that she says, like, I think in my effort to

1267
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: make my opinions heard, it was perceived as bullying by some.

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: That's just kind of like blaming other people's interpretations of

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01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: your behavior instead of like taking accountability for you actually

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: is having some very few moments. Yeah, I would agree.

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: At some point you just kind of have to own

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: up to it and and you have to start wanting

1273
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: to understand it. And it doesn't sound like quite she's

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: quite there yet, and we'll see if she goes on Paradise,

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01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: will be able to understand more. Well. This will also

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01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: say that she she apologized privately, apparently to some cast members. Well,

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: we'll take that into consideration. It's a great start and

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01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: uh and hey, we hope that through the show everybody

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01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: will learn a little bit of something about themselves. And

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01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: watching it back, well, you know, you you have to

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: see yourself in your actions and sometimes I know with me,

1282
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: I didn't always love my actions, and so you have

1283
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: to understand, get better, move you know, move forward, but

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01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: also know that there was you know, probably some damage

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01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: done in the wake. And so it's good that she's

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01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: starting the apology to her um and I hope it continues, Uh. Well,

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: speaking of apologies, Caitlin Bristow apologize to Bachelor's Chelsea Vaughan

1288
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: for comparing hair stories and uh. Caitlin's quote is, I

1289
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: was completely ignorant, as according to US magazine. Okay, so

1290
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,480
Speaker 1: what happened last week was Caitlin was watching the Bachelor episode,

1291
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: as she describes in this statement, and when Chelsea started

1292
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: talking about her being insecure with her hair and it

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01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: being a like an emotional attachment, you know, like car

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01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: is it could be an emotional thing. But she was

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01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: talking about how she was insecure with her with her

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01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: hair to Jason, and then she kind of just didn't

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01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: really listen to the rest of Chelsea's story, didn't see

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01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: how race played a part of it. And um, she

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01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: went on I think her Instagram or it was an

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: it was some sort of ad, and she compared her

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01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: hair insecurities with Chelsea's insecurities from this past episode, and um,

1302
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: then you know, she quickly discovered that they are not

1303
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: the same. That Chelsea's story, um about her hair is

1304
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: not really something she should be relating to. And she

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01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: apologized to Chelsea in a public apology and in a

1306
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: private apology Caitlin says that she feels completely completely ignorant.

1307
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 1: She was ignorant in the moment, that she did not

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01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: listen to the rest of the story or understand the

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01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: history behind the story as to why Chelsea is insecure

1310
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: over her hair. She said that she owes Chelsea apology,

1311
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: which I just mentioned. She she did do publicly and privately,

1312
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: and she said that she owes a lot of people

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01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: who are following her an apology for her ignorance. She

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01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: said that what she did was what I did by

1315
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 1: going to my Instagram and doing a paid partnership comparing

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01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: my story to Chelsea's about insecurity that my hair was

1317
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: just wrong. She says she feels humiliated. I am so

1318
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: humiliated that I did not listen. Andy Dorfman says she

1319
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: would pick Chris Souls if she did her Bachelorette season

1320
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 1: over again. Hey, this article is according to Entertainment Tonight. However,

1321
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: we have audio proof according to our in depth episode,

1322
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: that Andy Dorfman actually said that to us. First. Yeah,

1323
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: apparently she said it on another podcast this week, the

1324
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 1: Hollywood Raw podcast, and now it's a headline. But guys,

1325
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: if you are a dedicated almost famous listener, you know

1326
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: that we broke this news months ago. We did. Well, hey,

1327
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: we just had to get it out there. Anyways, Uh,

1328
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: Nick File and Natalie Joy we talked about it last week.

1329
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: They go Instagram official in suitet video that according to

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: US Weekly, So it's Instagram official if you want to

1331
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: call it Instagram official, but in no way says hey,

1332
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 1: Nick is my boyfriend. It's just Natalie posting a video

1333
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: of Nick while he's playing with his um what is that?

1334
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: What are those called? What's an oculus? It's one of

1335
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: those virtual reality game things. Uh. So Yeah, it's the

1336
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: first time that one of them has posted of each

1337
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: shother on their Instagram. And I can just tell you

1338
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: guys that in September Natalie said that she is the

1339
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: happiest she's ever been, and yeah, Nick is probably the

1340
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: happiest I've seen him in quite some time. Yeah, he

1341
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: seems thrilled and uh it's very cute. So we look

1342
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: forward to two more updates on that relationship. Uh. Moving forward, Well, Uh,

1343
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: one relationship in Batchel Nation that's very known by the public. Uh,

1344
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: Dylan and Hannah. Well, Dylan made news this week. I

1345
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: would say, kind of out of nowhere. I didn't know

1346
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: he felt this way. Uh it was I was reading

1347
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: Twitter the next day and I was like, Wow, this

1348
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: is surprising coming from him. Hannahkes came out at this

1349
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: point and also said that she was dealing with the

1350
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: mess that was caused. Well, Ashley explained to US Dylan

1351
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: Barber slams the Bachelor franchise, claims Jed Wyatt never cheated

1352
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: on Hannah Brown and many other things. This according to

1353
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: US Weekly. Okay, so I think len Nooise maybe just

1354
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: trying to make a splash here because he tweeted cancel

1355
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: ABC and The Bachelor kind of want to air out

1356
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: their dirty laundry. Mom got me riled up? Ask away, um.

1357
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 1: Then he proceeded to talk about the franchise not caring

1358
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: about people's like mental health or not looking out for

1359
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: their best interests. It's like, yeah, you are a character

1360
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: on the show. They're not going to always be looking

1361
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: out for your best interests. Well, you, guys, I don't

1362
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: understand the grammar here, but this is the quote. You've

1363
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: got to understand the game. They get paid off you

1364
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: doing that warrant screen time. Okay, so if you're doing

1365
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: something stupid, he's saying, then they benefit from it. He

1366
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: also says that it's easy to make a bad person

1367
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: look worse, it's hard to make a good person look bad. Um. Yeah,

1368
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: he's just like kind of blah blah blah, and he's

1369
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: mad at We don't really but I think it's it comes.

1370
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: It's coming from the fact that he's friends with Jed.

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01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 1: And he said that Jed never cheated on Hannah, which

1372
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: I I didn't think that it was ever a thing

1373
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: that Jed cheated on Hannah. I thought the whole issue

1374
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: was that he had a girlfriend when he met Hannah.

1375
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: Wasn't that the controversy. I don't think anybody ever said

1376
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: that Jed was cheating on Hannah. I can't fully remember.

1377
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: But it's very I mean, Jed's been great to us

1378
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: in this podcast. He's done a couple of shows with us.

1379
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: He's promoted his music with us. Um, we have never

1380
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: talked to him. I think we've had him on and

1381
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: in depth, and we spoke to him about the situation

1382
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: and he claimed that it was messy and that you know,

1383
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: he wasn't dating this girl at the time. I thought that, Yes,

1384
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: I think I remember that being the thing, but it's

1385
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: very obvious that Dylan had a lot of build up frustration.

1386
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean he and it's not the first here recently, right,

1387
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: we saw it with Luke Parker. Well, Luke Parker, as

1388
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: we uh you know announced was was actually sued by

1389
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise. Um, but it felt like Dylan had

1390
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 1: a lot held up. He expressed it via Twitter, uh

1391
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: and I mean as Hannah kind of mentioned like, there

1392
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: was a lot of reaction to it. This became a headline.

1393
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,879
Speaker 1: It's still a headline today a couple of days later. So, um,

1394
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 1: we'll see where this goes and if if Dylan, I

1395
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: don't know if Dylan has came out publicly yet and

1396
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: said anything about it, but it definitely came out of nowhere.

1397
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: For me, had no clue he felt so strongly about this. Well,

1398
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: former Bachelor at Hannah Brown spotted holding hands with model

1399
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: Adam Woollard. Well, as we reported a week or two ago,

1400
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: Hannah's got a new man, and I think a lot

1401
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: of the blog the bloggers picked up on it, a

1402
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: lot of the sleuthors out there rather, they picked up

1403
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: on it. And now I think we get our confirmation

1404
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,520
Speaker 1: by the fact that they're holding hands on a weekend

1405
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: stroll an Abbot Kinney around Venice Beach. It's cute and

1406
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: uh and obviously, uh, we can probably say officially that

1407
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 1: Hannah Brown at least has an interest, like she's at

1408
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 1: least she she's in something, she's dating. Good for Hannah Brown,

1409
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 1: she's back at it, she's back on the market. Things

1410
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: are going well. Well, that's all the headlines we have

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 1: for today. Ashley, Um, let's break down some listener emails.

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01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: Some of them really uh hit home, especially when it

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01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:33,560
Speaker 1: comes uh to this episode. I'm gonna start with this one. Um,

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 1: just the easy one to get a started. Liz asked,

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01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: how do you decide who reads the date card? Does

1416
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: production say who has to read it? Ashley take it away?

1417
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: Yes they do. It's pretty simple, pretty simple answer there.

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: They just kind of pull aside a girl and say, hey,

1419
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: the door is gonna know, there's gonna be a knock

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01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: at the door soon. You you run and go get it.

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: I think it's usually uh, you know, they arrange it

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01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: so obviously the person who's not going on the one

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01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: on one is reading the day card for themselves. Yeah. Yeah,

1424
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's but it never is that big a deal, right,

1425
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: Like it's never like, oh my gosh, I want to

1426
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: get the day card. Like I've never seen anybody get

1427
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 1: too excited about that. Um hey, Kimberly asks. Over the years,

1428
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: we could laugh at Karen and Demi and the plenty

1429
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: of other villains that have appeared, but we've always had

1430
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: the opportunity to learn more about them, grow to like them,

1431
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: or at least be neutral. The level of bullying that

1432
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: has gone on this season is atrocious and cringeworthy and

1433
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: has no business being supported or promoted as entertainment. It

1434
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 1: isn't entertaining to watch, as most moments with the girls

1435
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: take me back to moments in grade school in high school.

1436
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: I would agree. I wish I could erase from memory.

1437
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: It's awful to wash watch friendships grow over buling at

1438
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: the expense of others. My husband put it best, it

1439
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: just looks like the beginning of the end of the Bachelor. Wow.

1440
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,759
Speaker 1: Whoa wow. Well, I think that what's going to happen

1441
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: is they're just going to take this feedback from the

1442
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: fans because we all hate the bullying, and we hate

1443
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 1: the girl, and we hate you know, this women not

1444
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: supporting women thing that they're doing right now, and I

1445
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: think they just won't do it again. I just feel

1446
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 1: like they'll they won't cast somebody like Victoria. They know

1447
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: now that we love villains that we can learn to

1448
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: love like Demi or like Karin, not just straight up

1449
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: villains who have like no character development beyond that. Jennifer

1450
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: asks or writes us to start, I'll say this, I

1451
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: don't I didn't really like Matt was chosen as the Bachelor.

1452
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: Nothing personal, but as a die hard Bachelor Nation fan,

1453
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: I was not loving that he was chosen as a

1454
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: lead without ever being on the show. That being said,

1455
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 1: I have no problem admitting he is quite possibly in

1456
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: my top three Bachelor's. I love Matt more and more

1457
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: every week. What I don't love is the toxic behavior

1458
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: from some of the women on the season that I find.

1459
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 1: It seems I or his pattern is to pick one

1460
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: girl she deems a threat or just an easy target,

1461
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 1: and focus on how she can get that girl out.

1462
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: First it was Maryland, then it was Sarah, Now it's

1463
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: New Girls. I mean. Then she goes on. Jennifer goes

1464
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: on to say the mean commons and Bowling are not

1465
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: only appalling, but so disgusting. I'm wondering your input as

1466
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: two people who are connected to the franchise. Um, you

1467
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 1: go first, Yes, I agree. Um, I don't think has

1468
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: actually just said this will continue. I think what the

1469
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,799
Speaker 1: show will do from here on out is to allow

1470
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: the lead to become aware of these situations earlier on,

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01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: so we don't see it for a few weeks. Uh

1472
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 1: so the lead cann then step in and hopefully stop it.

1473
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the one criticism of Peter is

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Speaker 1: he didn't stop drama. He knew of it and he

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Speaker 1: didn't stop it. I think with Matt and most leads,

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Speaker 1: they usually try to stop it, and so I think

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01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: the show will show the lead stepping in and saying, no,

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: this isn't okay, we need to to be her here.

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Speaker 1: I think that's how they'll stop it from happening. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I agree. I love Matt James as a Bachelor.

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01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: I think he's great. I think it was unfun to

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Speaker 1: watch his season because of the drama that was unfolding

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: around him. I think it will be better from here

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Speaker 1: on out, or at least I hope so. Like I

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Speaker 1: said earlier in the episode, I do think that once

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Speaker 1: this Ja Sena m J thing is resolved, we won't

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Speaker 1: have to deal with the drama anymore. And like I

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Speaker 1: just said, I do think that they're going to listen

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Speaker 1: to the fans and give more of a romantic Tasia

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01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: esque season next time around. That's right. Carly reveals whether

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Speaker 1: or not she'll get back together with Evan. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: Carly really, uh, she put a lot out there this week. First,

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Speaker 1: she says that she's just terrified of the idea of

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Speaker 1: dating again. She never planned on doing it. Then, when

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Speaker 1: asked if or I don't even know, she was asked,

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Speaker 1: I think she just kind of off it up. She

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Speaker 1: was like, would Evan and I ever get back together?

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Speaker 1: She said, it takes two to make that happen. Um.

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Speaker 1: Then somebody said would you ever be on the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: franchise again? And she said that she'd be so embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: She said, when I think about that, I just start

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Speaker 1: laughing because I can't even imagine walking up to Chris

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01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: Harrison and being like, here I am again. I'd be

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01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: so embarrassed. It didn't really work out for me, So

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Speaker 1: what makes me think it would happen? Yeah, that that

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01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: would be kind of funny. I would I would agree,

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Speaker 1: Like I think I would be embarrassed at that point. Actley,

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Speaker 1: what a great episode, horrific job today, terrific episode on

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Speaker 1: Matt's part, and uh for the season of the Bachelor. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back next week breaking down another one of

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Speaker 1: Matt's episodes. We have some really exciting stuff that I

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Speaker 1: don't want to announce yet that will be coming up

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Speaker 1: this week and in the weeks following when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Almost Famous podcast. But then, once again, I

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Speaker 1: just want to end this uh with reminding everybody of

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