1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome into a week eighteen edition of 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly alongside Matt Muddy Smith Chris Hay here with 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: you money. Raiders Chargers Vegas winner goes to playoffs both 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: the hard do you need to say? Man? I mean, 5 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: how about it? The Chargers and the Raiders is gonna 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: play two primetime games a Monday night and a Sunday night. 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: That's how big it is and how big of a 8 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: deal this one is. It's the last game of the 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: regular season, and it is the only one that is 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: a win, and you are in lose and you are not. 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: And it's the two teams that hate each other more 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: than any other teams in the league, to fan bases 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: that hate each other more than any other fan bases 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: in the league. And it's gonna be awesome. It is 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: going to be absolutely awesome. And I cannot wait to 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: get into Allegian Stadium on Sunday night. And having seen 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the Raider home games and haven't been 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: on the road, and seeing a nice chunk of Charger 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: fans in Houston, in Washington, in Denver and all these 20 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: places that we've gone, I think we're gonna have a 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: nice EPL Premier League style swath of powder blue insidely, 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: I just think when the chart when the Raiders were 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: six and seven and it wasn't looking good, they went 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: through that one in five stretch. I could totally see 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of Charger fans scooping up tickets. And we're 26 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: gonna get a healthy, little little sliver of Charger fans 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: out there, and it's gonna make that place electric. It's 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna be great. It's gonna be so electric. And we 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: got a Jampex show. We're gonna talk to Sean Merriman, 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Jack collins Worth of NBC Sports, 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk to Steve Weisch of NFL Network. 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: So three great guests. Before we get into money, just 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: let's rewind a little bit to the Broncos game. It 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: was a get right game for the Chargers in all 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: three phases. Yeah, I mean, and that's that's what they needed, 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: because it was a pretty crushing loss in Houston in 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: all three phases. You know, for the most I shouldn't 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: say all three phases. Special teams was fine, but you know, 39 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: offense defense was not. So I think, you know, you 40 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: want to have some momentum and not just get a win. 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: And I've said that this year is that there's no 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: such thing as as winning, or you should say there's 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: no such thing as style points. You know, wins have 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: just been weird and hard to come by for so 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: many teams this year. Just get the win. But I 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: do think in this particular case, because of how the 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: Houston game played out, that this was a look. They 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: got Drew Locke out there. They're missing, you know, guys 49 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: like Bradley Chubb and a lot of their defense is gone. 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: You know, the Chargers got everybody back go out there 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: and you know, put a whopping on them, and it 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: was good to see. It was good to see the 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: defense get after it. It was great to see the 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: offense light up the scoreboard. You know, a nice fourth 55 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: down conversion that led to a touchdown. Like, there was 56 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: a lot of good that came out of that game. Yeah, 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: you know de Andre Roberts one hundred one yard oscar return, 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: which was awesome and he said too, getting guys back 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: from that COVID list on special teams that makes a 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: world a difference as well. M Hopkins kicking the ball well, 61 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: and you know, I look at the defense, and we're 62 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: finally starting to see them healthy, right Sante Samuel Junior. 63 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: His first game back was Houston, so he's got a 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: couple of games under his belt. Now finally see Darwin 65 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: out there. Durwin just makes a world a difference. Man. Incredible, 66 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's incredible the way he plays. If you 67 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: haven't seen the micd up, watch the micd up. I 68 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: mean if if you don't want to run through a 69 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: brick wall after after seeing how he leads the team. 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: He's telling every single person on the team he loves 71 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: them multiple times, multiple times throughout the game. Throughout the game, man, 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: and he's he's amping people up. Justin Jones is like 73 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: amp me up thirty three, at me up thirty three. 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: That's what they were missing. And we didn't We didn't 75 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: see it in the Kansas City game because he wasn't right. Um, 76 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: we didn't see it in the Giants game. They didn't 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: need him. Um, they certainly needed him in Houston, and 78 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: they needed a lot of those guys in Houston money. 79 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: And it almost made me feel a little bit better 80 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: about what happened on the twenty sixth when I saw 81 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Mike Williams forty five yard touchdown. What Duran was able 82 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: to do getting all these guys back healthy. You know 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: what the potential is of this team and can they 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: just have that maximum potential show up Sunday night at 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: Alleged Stadium. Yeah, I'll tell you, Like, this is something 86 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: that was probably overlooked and understandably. Like you said, you 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: get Eckler back, he gets a touchdown, You get Mike 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: Williams back, there's your shot play for a touchdown. You 89 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: get Joey Bosa back, he's in the backfield. He makes 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: that huge play on the Philly special to stop Drew 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: Locke from getting into the end zone. So I know 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: this was overlooked because not a lot of people talked 93 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: about it, But to me, it is a huge deal. 94 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Tray Pipkins played fantastic. Yeah. I don't think a lot 95 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: of people knew that he started at right tackle because 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: Storm was activated, but they just opted to put Pipkins 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: out there. And like, what that tells me is, yeah, 98 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: Houston was a disaster, and but there were so many 99 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: guys out on that field we did not expect to 100 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: see out on that field in this game. When they 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: had to fill a hole at right tackle. It was 102 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: filled and the defense was whole, and Durwin was everywhere. 103 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: And so I just want to make sure I tip 104 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: a cap to a guy that's taken a ton of 105 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: incoming for probably not being part of this team once 106 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: his rookie deal expires. You know, when there was some 107 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: excitement about his upside. You know, he just needed time 108 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: to develop that all the traits were there, and maybe 109 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: this coaching staff, with those traits is able to build 110 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: a heck of a right tackle Trey Pipkins. And if 111 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: that's the case, fantastic moving forward. You get your depth 112 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: with Tray and Storm, you know, moving forward, you know, 113 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: because I don't know what Bulag is going to look 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: like moving forward. I think after missing the entire season, 115 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: I can't imagine him coming back. So that out of 116 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: the way. The second thing I'll bring up with with 117 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: your listen to the micd up on Durwin James, is 118 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: you need to have in games like this against the 119 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: Raiders and a game like that against the Broncos where 120 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: you had to have it, you need someone that will 121 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: let you lose. You have to find that play. Hey, 122 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: this guy is not going to let us lose this 123 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: game that like, there's just it's it's not an option 124 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: for him, and he will do everything in his power 125 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're on your p's and q's 126 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: and he is, and that they don't lose a game 127 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: they're supposed to win. And man, having him out there, 128 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: especially with news that Darren Waller's back at practice and 129 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: might be back like that is it's you can't like, 130 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: you can't oversell it how important it is having him 131 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: out on that field because he's truly the one guy 132 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: now justin Herbert's the one that's going to make the 133 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: most impact of anyone on the field in terms of 134 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: touching the ball every single time they're on offense. But man, 135 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: Darwin's a close second. And the confidence level I have 136 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: in this team, it's probably a three to four hundred 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: percent multiplier when that guy's out there, There's no question 138 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: about it. And Mighty before we get into all of 139 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: our guests, I just want to say this, The Charger's 140 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: Raiders rivalry is back, and the fact that there are 141 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: so many former charges on the other side, it just 142 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: makes it even juice here, right, Denzel Perryman and Casey 143 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: Hayward and Gus Bradley, brad von Square team or face on. 144 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, so many guys who played on this team 145 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: last year, and it just it batters again Like the 146 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: Seawan Merriman Nick Hardwick era. They just they boldoze the 147 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: Raiders every time they played them. This one matters. They're 148 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: both above five hundred and it's for a playoff spot. 149 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: We haven't seen this out of this rivalry in almost 150 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 1: four decades. Yeah, And look, the Chargers were en route 151 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: to a boat race when they met on Monday night football, right. 152 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: It was twenty one nothing in the first half, and 153 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: then it got a little shaky there in the third quarter, 154 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: you know. And that's where I think, you know, a 155 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: little bit of that unease comes in with Charger fans 156 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: or people around the Chargers, like, hey, let's not forget 157 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: you probably should have put this team away with like 158 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: a thirty five to seven or a forty two to 159 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: seven style out and it just got shaky in the 160 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: third quarter, you know, And that's I think it's important 161 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: to remember that. I think that's probably better for them 162 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: than Sana whatever. With the Raiders. You know, they won 163 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: these last three games with seven turnovers against teams that 164 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: were totally decimated by COVID every step of the way 165 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: or by injury. You know, the Cleveland game was a farce, 166 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, and then the Broncos game there's no Teddy Bridgewater, 167 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: a lot of their defense is banged up. And then 168 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: they get a Colts team that clearly Carson Wentz just 169 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: did not look right. Now. I'm not trying to take 170 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: away those three wins from them. They want you've got 171 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: to win the game. Look, both the Texans were worse 172 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: off from COVID, you can make a case, and the 173 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: Chargers were, and the Chargers still lost that game. So 174 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away from that, but I think 175 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: you can. I think you can kind of talk away 176 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: that the Raiders success if you wanted to. But because 177 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: these two teams already met once this year when they 178 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: were both pretty much full strength, and we know that 179 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: that it could have been a Chargers route and it 180 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,599 Speaker 1: wasn't because the Raiders, you know, they're fighters, they do 181 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: not go away their cock coaches. Man, they're they're hard 182 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: to kill. So you know, I think that's good for 183 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: this team to remember to kind of have that seed 184 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: planted of how that Monday nighter went in a week 185 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I think it was Week five, so much shall breakdown 186 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: on this one Sean Merriman, Jack Collinsworth. But first, NFL 187 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Networks Steve Weisch. All right, before we get to Steve, 188 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: a quick note to let you know that Pepsi they're 189 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: passing out the Ultimate Chargers Span experience only at seven 190 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: eleven Russian scan the code for your chance to win 191 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: some awesome Chargers prizes. 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I immediately think of you 201 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: when I think a big games man. We wanted to 202 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: have you on Chargers Raiders last game of the regular 203 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: season in week eighteen for a playoff spot my friend, Oh, 204 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: we got some hot sauce on this money. This is like, 205 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: this is like the jerk seasoning on top of some 206 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: nice jerk chicken. I mean last game, I mean the 207 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: last game of the regular season. Two teams that really 208 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 1: just love each other. I mean they're just you know, 209 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: so you know, they just they just they wrapped their 210 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: arms around each other and embrace all the love between 211 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: the two franchises. I mean, and win it in. I mean, 212 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: what a great scenario for two teams. You know, different 213 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: points of the season, we didn't think that the Raiders 214 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: we even have a shot without the Chargers, We're gonna 215 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: roll right into this, and now they're at this point. 216 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: I love it. I mean, talk about drama. We're here, Steve, 217 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: what would you say, as you're based out here on 218 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: the West Coast? You've covered a ton of Charger games, 219 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: ton of Raider games this year? Um, do you feel 220 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: like you have a beat on one of these teams 221 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: better than the other. I can't figure out the three 222 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: wins in a row for the Raiders when they turn 223 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: the ball over seven times and have zero takeaways, And 224 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: I try to figure out the Chargers losing to the 225 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: Texans like it's hard to figure these two teams out. 226 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: The Chargers driving crazy um just in terms of I 227 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: look at the talent, I look at the coaching, and 228 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, I think, frankly they should be in contential 229 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: to be winning the division. I mean, I know how 230 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: it is, but I mean, you know, you look at 231 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: some of the games they lost, you know, like, oh, 232 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, are they going to be able to graduate 233 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: that next step? And that's what you're saying in this game, 234 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: like if they don't win this game, Like to me, 235 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: there's no reason that they don't win this game, right, 236 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: and they don't win it, you're just saying yourself, like, man, 237 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: what is it going to take for this team to 238 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: get through? I mean is it the clutch mental moments? 239 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: You know we talk every year, you know every year 240 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: the teams like, oh they're close, they're close, They're gonna 241 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: get there next year. Tomorrow is not promised. Ask to 242 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns that right now, yeah right, you think you're 243 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: right there. If you don't take advantage of the moment, 244 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: it may never come back. And that's how I feel 245 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: about the Chargers, Like, if they get through, they make 246 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs, why can't they come out of the AFC. 247 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: I mean there, Tell me where the weakness is personnel wise, 248 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Tell me the weakness is coaching wise, you know, other 249 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: than a lack of experience in the big moment, I 250 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: don't see it. And then we look at the Raiders. 251 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: You're like, everything that's happened to them, they have bucked 252 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: every analytic they have bucked every common sense thing, right, 253 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: the John Gruden situation, everything that went on with Damon 254 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Arnett and Henry Ruggs. This team should not be here, 255 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: Like you just mentioned money, seven giveaways, zero takeaways, and 256 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: they've won three straight. Now, the thing is, it comes 257 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: down to this. If the Raiders can bog you down 258 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: right like they did with the Colts last week, all right, 259 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not even kind in their previous two wins 260 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: because they played a bronze team with Mullins and quarterback, 261 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, their fourth quarterback. You know, they came back 262 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: and played Drew Lock against the Broncos and they managed 263 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: to grind those games out. But if they can muck 264 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: this game up and get you in the final five 265 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: minutes where they're within a one possession, this is not 266 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: the type of game the Chargers want to be in 267 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: because somehow Derek Carr and this team has managed to 268 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: make the plays down the stretch to win. Steve, you 269 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: mentioned the Chargers getting over the hump, and I just 270 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: I go back a few weeks ago that Thursday night 271 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: game against the Chiefs. If they win that game, they're 272 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: a first place in the West. And then you go 273 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: to Houston knowing that you went out you're gonna have 274 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: a home game in the playoffs. It took like one 275 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: or two plays in that game to kind of flip it. 276 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: We're seeing him get healthy now. Obviously I don't put 277 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: a tos stock in how they beat the Broncos, but 278 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: drew lack of quarterback and the injuries and the COVID 279 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: issues that the Broncos head. But I just feel like 280 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: when this defense, specifically when Derwin James is on the 281 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: football field, that defense is different. And I don't know 282 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: if you saw his micd up, but I almost feel 283 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: like it's impossible for them to lose what he is 284 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: playing the way he played last Sunday. Yeah, I mean 285 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: you would think so again, because you know, you look 286 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: at some teams and there's a piece you know, we know, 287 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: we know Derwin is that star that chess piece right 288 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: where they can move free strong outside linebacker, tendencies in 289 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: the slide, different things like that, and that makes other 290 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: players you can design your defense right differently with the 291 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: other ten. And so you say that again, you look 292 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: at the Raiders and you say that, like, who's their threat? Okay, 293 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: now I will say this. They might be getting Darren wallerback. 294 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: If they get Darren wallerback, All right, guys, you know, 295 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: we know what he is. He is a wide receiver 296 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: and a tight ends body and a tight end playing 297 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver. You have got to change what you do 298 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: schematically if he is on the field, and that could 299 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: open up some things for the Raiders offense, you know. 300 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: And that's that's a big that's a big situation right 301 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: there if Waller comes back. But you know, get who 302 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: else on that Raiders seem really scars. I mean, I 303 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: know Josh Jacobs, but he hasn't popped one, right, He's 304 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: kind of now this season been like a three yard 305 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: in the cloud of dusk guy Steve Dertwin, Mitch and 306 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: Renfro and the way that Renfros specifically since Thanksgiving um, 307 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: he said that that's the guy that they're really gonna 308 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: have to California the slot. They have to. They have 309 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: to because you see what teams trying to do to him. 310 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: They roll everything towards, may double him. Whatever. He's like 311 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Hooper Cup, he's open. You're not seeing him making contested 312 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: grabs over people. He's open. So he's got something going 313 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: with car right now where you might even have to say, Okay, 314 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: if we can limit Renfro from having the big play, right, 315 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: if you can keep him to that nine yards, you know, 316 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: keep everything underneath, which the Chargers do well. They don't 317 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: allow a lot of a ton of explosives, right, So 318 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: if you do that and you somehow limit the explosives 319 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: with Waller, you've got a shot. You've got a shot 320 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: only if you put points on the board. And that's 321 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: and that's where the Chargers are. Like every time I 322 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: see Austin Acquers getting too the end zone. But then 323 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: something's like, how come you guys aren't putting thirty up 324 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: like every game? Because the capability is there. Yeah, Steve 325 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: would love to know do you put do you put 326 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: stock into the justin Herbert Primetime numbers that the fact 327 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: that I think outside of Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. 328 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: You know he's had This will be a six primetime game, 329 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: and the numbers are crazy. It's like fourteen touchdowns, I 330 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: think maybe one pick and a rating of like one 331 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five or like. Do you think there's 332 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: something to that when you see those numbers for these 333 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: big games. If it were if it were the NBA 334 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: or something, I put more into it because you've only 335 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: got four other people to account for one player. Can 336 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: you can say, look, these people rise up like this, 337 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: and he may rise up to these occasions. Is everybody 338 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: else gonna come along with him? Again? These are the moments. 339 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: This is this is a big game. There's a there's 340 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: primetime games, right, and then there are moments, and this 341 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: is the moment. This is where Okay, this dude, this 342 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: is kind of where he can make his bread if 343 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: he if he wins this game and he plays well 344 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: in this game, then justin Herbert that top five talk 345 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: is it's legit. He got his team into the playoffs 346 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: these types of circumstances. So I do put some stock 347 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: into the fact that some people, some players play well. 348 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I go back to college and I'll get 349 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: the big games and I'm like, this guy is the 350 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: best player on the field. Like so, you know, I 351 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: look at that. There's some guys who just have something 352 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: about them in that moment. So for him personally, yes, 353 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: I do put stock into it. Now, you've got ten 354 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: other guys who are on the field with them. Are 355 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: they going to rise up? Because that's what matters most 356 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: in a game like this. Steve, you cover the league 357 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: for a long time. How great is this for the 358 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: NFL to have the Chargers and Raiders both good Week 359 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: four Monday Night Football. That was the first games the 360 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and two that both teams entered the game 361 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: above five hundred. This will be the second time. And 362 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: we talk about all these storylines former Chargers on the 363 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: Raiders and the way that Week four ended with Bosa 364 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: and Derek Carr. I mean, how good is this for 365 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: the NFL? It's huge. Look, I mean no slights of 366 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: the Chargers, but we all know that that silver and 367 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: black brand is significant, you know, in terms of in 368 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: terms of national and international appeal. And then if the 369 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: Chargers can do something to elevate themselves we've seen I mean, look, 370 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: I go back you know to the Super Bowl, to 371 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: the standum free Super Bowl run. I mean the way 372 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: people jumped on the on the Chargers bandwagon when you 373 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: had Natron Means and Alfred Papunou and all those guys, so, 374 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, and then in the LT years it's just 375 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: been so sporadic, you know, and them not being able 376 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: to get past the Colts and the Patriots. That they 377 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: have both of these teams in a moment like this 378 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: where they've had to overcome so much, I think it's huge. 379 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely huge. And also to have two 380 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: West Coast teams duking it out like this, I mean 381 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: because again, the majority of the NFL fan base nicks 382 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: Midwest and East Coast centric, So to be able to 383 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: do this in prime time with so much, you know, 384 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: on the line, I think is just great for the league. 385 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: That's why that's why they move the game where they 386 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: move it. They understand that there was a no brainer. Steve, 387 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: what I know, it's the you know, we're doing Chargers. 388 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: It's a Chargers podcast, and I don't think anybody wants 389 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: to hear too much Raider talk, but I am interested. 390 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm so fascinated by Derek Carr, 391 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: and I can't it's hard for me to figure out 392 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: how I feel about him. It's just if there's something 393 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: I don't I can't describe it, like I don't know. 394 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: By all accounts, he seems like a great guy, high character, 395 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: someone that everybody should be rooting for. But I just 396 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: can't put my finger on it. And it feels like 397 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: a lot of people feel that way as well. And 398 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the turnovers, if it's the 399 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: throwing the ball away on fourth down, if it's things 400 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: like that. But how big is this for him? Like 401 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: he is, you can make a case he's the most 402 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: polarizing quarterback in the NFL as to whether or not 403 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: he's good or not, if they should keep him or not. 404 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Do you think this maybe dictates his future as a 405 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: Raider considering his current salary and contract situation. Well, first 406 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: of annie, I think it's his hair. You just wish 407 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: you could have that mufassa set of locks that he's 408 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: sporting right now. But also I put him probably number 409 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: four on the most polarizing. I think Lamar Jackson and 410 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and probably Matt Ryan and maybe Kirk Cousins 411 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: fit into those boxes as well. But with Derek. It's 412 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: funny because like those teams I just mentioned a quarterback, 413 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: half the fan base will make this is why he's 414 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: our guy, like look at the numbers, Look at the numbers. 415 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: But other people will say, look at the big moments, 416 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: where's the signature moment? And I think, you know, Derek, 417 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't have those consistent you know. It's it's like 418 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: you here in basketball, there's a guy who can take 419 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: over a minute, but not take over sequences, and Derek 420 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: has not taken over sequences like we've seen justin Herbert, right, 421 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: like where he's just roll and roll and you're like, okay, 422 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: we're good, you know, And Derek is real hot and 423 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: cold like that man in late games, the dude is 424 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: like automatic. I think he's got twenty eight fourth quarter 425 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: nine twenty nine, yeah, fourth quart overtime game winning drives, 426 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: and we've seen him do that lately. They've got three 427 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: overtime wins this year. So I just think, you know, 428 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't He's not Aaron Rodgers, right, He's not the 429 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: dude who's just gonna pull a rabbit out of a 430 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: hat and you're like, oh my god, there's nothing we 431 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: could do. Like he hasn't had that moment basically since 432 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: he's gotten hurt when he was on that great MVP 433 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: type run a couple of years ago. And so yeah, 434 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: so you say to yourself, because I mean, this is 435 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: the thing with the Raiders. You know, it's it's so funny. 436 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: People are like, hey, if Richard Besacci, if they win 437 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: this game, this just got to get some Coach of 438 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: the Year conversation. Well, if they lose this game's gonna 439 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: get fired. And I think that's how people are with Derek, Like, 440 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: if they win this game, Okay, this is Derek's moment. 441 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: If they lose this game, they got they gotta get 442 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: rid of him and start all over. And it's such 443 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: a weird dynamic when you know that Derek Carr is 444 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: a good player. I mean just you know, and I'm 445 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: not taking away from any of Derek's coaches, but can 446 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: you imagine if all of a sudden he goes to 447 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Tell me one person that's gonna say if 448 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: Derek cargoes Sean Payton, he's not gonna be Who's not 449 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna think he's gonna be a Pro Bowl type player. 450 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: So the talent is there, but like you said, there's 451 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: just there's this right here, like, is he ever gonna 452 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: be the guy to get them going? You just don't know. 453 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: Steve will get you at here on this knowing what 454 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: you know about both these teams, how they're currently playing, 455 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: what do you think it is going to decide this 456 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: one Sunday night? Well, I mean to me, to me, 457 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: it's it's just the Chargers getting out early and not 458 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: letting the not let the Raiders bog them down. I mean, 459 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: we saw the Colts go out earlier on the Raiders 460 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: and and and then the Raiders bog them down. Right, 461 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: You can't get that ten nothing lead then all of 462 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: a sudden it's ten three at halftime, yeah, or thirteen 463 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: seven midway through the third quarter, because then you're in trouble. 464 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: You then the Raiders kind of have you where they 465 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: want you. And it's it's weird because the Raiders make 466 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: the penalties that they've always say, they do the things 467 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: that they've kind of traditionally, but they find themselves able 468 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: to just to make you make that one mistake or 469 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: have that one bad three and out which gives them 470 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: a shot. And so I think the Chargers have got 471 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: to just if they're going to get up by a touchdown, 472 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: They got to stay up by a touch on extended 473 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: to ten, get a takeaway, take away a possession. Just 474 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: not let the Raiders keep within a one possession game, 475 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: because they just somehow this season and it's not just 476 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: the last three games, but this season when you look 477 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: at their games, been able to find a way to 478 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: win those type of ball games. Kind of can't wait. 479 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be so good. It's gonna be so good. 480 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be so good. Man, I know how busy 481 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: you are. We appreciate you taking a few minutes to 482 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: chat with us about this game. Man, always always great 483 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: guys uptown top rank, that's our man, Steve which money 484 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: this is Las Vegas is number one resident Raider lover 485 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: Shaan Meryman. He's been having a week now on social 486 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: media's been having a week now on social media. It's 487 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: been fun. I can't you know, can't lie about that. 488 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: Um well, you know it's look, this is the week 489 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: too for me, you know, just that rivalry that's been 490 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: around for so so for so long. Man, you get 491 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: a chance to go back and forth and I'm not 492 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: playing obviously, but you see the rabbit fans and how 493 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: aggressive and the back and forth banter that they have 494 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, I just wish that I 495 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: was on social media more like this when I was playing, 496 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: because it would it would have been no stop for me. Then, 497 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, speak to that, Sean, because we know fans 498 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: get excited, right fan bases. They're not the ones that 499 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: got to put on the pads and get out of 500 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: the field and hit each other and play this game 501 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: that is so violent and it's so hard to do 502 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: anything against any team, let alone one that's supposedly arrival. 503 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 1: But man, it feels like it's different even for the players. 504 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: I think about last year the win and the Raiders, 505 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, and arm dropped that ball and it was 506 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: announced they're doing their little airplane on the Charger sideline 507 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: when Herbert's in and overtime Chargers doing the same thing back. 508 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: So do these do players? Is there a rivalry between 509 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: these two teams for the players as well? No, absolutely, absolutely, Listen, 510 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: outside of it being a division game, I think that 511 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: we all know that there's a different level of play 512 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: when you're playing. The ratings. Yeah, you know, you you 513 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: want to see as a player in the locker room 514 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure Coach Staley is probably telling them this is 515 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: this is a game that we got to win and 516 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: treat this like every other game. You should say it 517 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: in the locker room, but amongst the guys when you're talking, 518 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: you know that this is a little different, right. You 519 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: know that guy's gonna be jumping and dive for that 520 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: extra inch and guys are gonna be finishing off plays. 521 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: This week is different, um than a lot of the others. 522 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: It really is, and even more so because of the implications. 523 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: You know, if this is a game and you know 524 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: we're in the middle of the season and not much 525 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: is riding on the line other than you know, just 526 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: a game on Sunday, then it's it's one thing. But 527 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: this is a winn to go home. Uh, this is uh, 528 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: who's going to you know, kind of look be looked 529 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: at of control the you know outside of Kansas City. 530 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: Who's going to be that that rivalry you know going forward? 531 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: And it's it's it's it has a lot of implications, Sean. 532 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: I talked to Nick Hardwick yesterday about Radar Week and 533 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: what it means, and that's why I think it's so special, 534 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: because it means so much to you, guys, it just 535 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you just talk about the fact 536 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: that Marty Schottenheimer really ratcheted this thing up when he 537 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: was the head coach. He did, he did, and and 538 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I mean, look, I went hard 539 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: against every team, but it was something about Marty where 540 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: he implemented this idea in us that this team deserves 541 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: to be hated just that much more than everybody else. 542 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: And when I tell you that those week of practices 543 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: were more physical than we had all season, I mean 544 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: we had we had to talk guys in not to 545 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: take each other to the ground on tackles. You know, 546 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: we were lining up on fourth goal and then guys 547 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: wasn't fut and they were, you know, taking guys to 548 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: the ground. And so when the temperament is that high 549 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: and that much on the line, and you know, you 550 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: just can't wait to get to the game because all 551 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: the week you're you're fired up to go hit somebody else. 552 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: And we're better to wait to hit a team to 553 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: hit than the ratings. Yeah, you know, it's interesting, Sean, 554 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: because Joey Bosa didn't hold his tongue when he was 555 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: talking about it after that first game. He's like, hey, look, 556 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: we know how this goes. You know, you get the 557 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: car early and he gets shot and that's just you know, 558 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: and you don't hear that a lot, but if you 559 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: could as playing, you know, the same position is Joey 560 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: and knowing what it means to get after a quarterback 561 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: just kind of speak to what he was trying to 562 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: convey there in that moment. Well, you know, for one, 563 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: one thing I've been loving about Joey's He's been talking, 564 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, even you know when Drew Lockett came out 565 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: and said he was tired, he went to make that 566 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: big play and he says like that part. I think 567 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: that first of all, you know, Joey Bosa's he's a 568 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: great player. He is. I think that the only thing 569 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: that I would say about him is I wish he 570 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: was always a little bit will vocal because he holds 571 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: so much, so much poor and he has so much 572 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: respect in that team. So when he talks and he 573 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: gets vocal, people will listening. It will lift people up. 574 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: So to actually see him going out and saying these things, 575 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: and you know, not only because he's a confident player, 576 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: but he can actually go out and do it. Speaking 577 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: of vocal. You know, Derwin James, it looks like that 578 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: defense finally is getting healthy and kind of rounding the 579 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: corner going into week eighteen. What did you see from 580 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: the Chargers defense last Sunday that you think can hopefully 581 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: carry over into this Sunday night. You know, one thing 582 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: I always said about Darwin and people, it's easy to 583 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: talk about his physical attributes, what he can do in 584 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: the field and been, you know, imposing other people. His 585 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: presence is just will disrupt any offense. You's got to 586 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: look at where he is. He got plays four or 587 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: five different positions, but people don't give him enough credit 588 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: for him communicating and keeping that defense cohesive. And when 589 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: you have somebody out there that's constantly talking, talking to 590 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: guys getting them lined up, sometimes you don't hear the 591 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: play because they maybe loud and he was physically going 592 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: to take a guy and get him lined up, make 593 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: sure that he knows a call so his head is 594 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: not spinning around before the play. Those type of guys 595 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: are invaluable. It's invaluable to a defense because you you 596 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: in a sense, you have a you have a coach 597 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: just out there, and also a guy that can go 598 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: out and make plays and there's very few times. You know, 599 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: sometimes you play with guys they're very vocal, but you 600 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: know it might not be the greatest athlete of the 601 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: greatest player on offensive defense. But when you have someone 602 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: that can do both, um, that's what makes the you know, 603 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: great players. Sean h'm I'm pulling it up right now 604 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: and just getting a look at that that Raiders offensive 605 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: line that's that's struggled this year. Can can you share 606 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: with with us in the listeners the idea of moving 607 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: around finding Waldo And you know, when you have someone 608 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: like Joey Bosa, what kind of challenges that for you 609 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: a pass rusher when you're asked to maybe line up 610 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: inside or move to the other side, are those challenges 611 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: or how does that work you as a pass rusher? 612 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: You love it And I'll tell you why because you 613 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, Joey's gonna get it, has been getting so 614 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: much attention, you know, gonna slide protection whatever he is, 615 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 1: He's gonna make sure they stay away or cut him 616 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: off from the backside and make sure he doesn't make 617 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: any plays. Now, when you start to move him around 618 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: and put him in different positions, they can no longer 619 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: come out and say, hey, this guy's gonna be line 620 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: up on the left, he's gonna be line up on 621 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: the right. I mean, Joey you can line up on 622 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: the inside and he can rush on the guard if 623 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: he had to. He just has that type of ability. 624 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: So to keep him moving around is very smart. And 625 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: coming into these games like this, you want to find 626 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: out what Joey Bosa is at every single point because 627 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: then you force somebody else, you know, some of the 628 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: other guys step up nuos two when uh some you know, 629 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: coming off the end, you want these other guys step 630 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: up because if that happens, you know, if you have 631 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: another guy on the opposite side that also requires any 632 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: type of potential to can make the play. When you 633 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: know Joey's gonna you know, beat double team or they're 634 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: gonna fan protection to slide protect to him, you know, 635 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: it's it's a game changing. So we're gonna be there 636 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: in a few days. You're you've been there, you know 637 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: you live there. Yeah, what's what's the buzz right now 638 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: in the city as we get closer to Sunday. Well, look, 639 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: whenever I have problems getting tickets, you know that that's 640 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: a you know, that's that's a big deal. Um. But 641 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: that's that's the you know, kind of the field that's 642 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: going on about here. I don't know persons that's not 643 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: going to that game. And then somebody that has meant 644 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: to a game all year, Uh, that's finding that way 645 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: to make it a game. And don't be surprised. I 646 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: don't say this, Do not be surprised if it's fifty 647 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: fifty out there. I'm not sure, he said. You know, 648 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you there's a lot living here in Vegas. 649 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of Chargers fans walking around. Um. You know, 650 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: you see your silver and black, you're gonna have that. 651 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: But for the most part, you have a lot of 652 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Chargers fans walking around here in Vegas. And don't be 653 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: surprised if you see a fifty fifty crowd out there. Now, 654 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: I would love to know. Last thing for me here, Sean, 655 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: we see the lights out light side extreme fighting. You 656 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: mentioned Marty would ratchet up the practices for Radar week 657 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: for you and watching what you've been doing on social media, 658 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: what are the workouts have been like this week? You're 659 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: hitting a little harder, you're taggling a little harder. Look 660 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: two of days, look at my look at my look 661 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: at my Instagram and yesterday, and watch the morning workout 662 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: at seven thirty in the morning, and then watch the 663 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: afternoon the evening workout. I've been hitting two days this week. 664 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm in the spirit, you know, I like, 665 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: I like when this happens. And you know, for me 666 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: being on this side now I'm stepping away from the game, 667 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: you start to understand and feel how fans feel about 668 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: the game, right because they obviously they can't go out 669 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: there and make a big play, They can't tackle anybody, 670 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: do anything. So the most you can do is go 671 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: at another team's fans. And that's that's your robbery, that's 672 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: your that's your game. So you know, I think that, 673 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think the Charge is definitely gonna come 674 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: out on top. I do believe that the Raiders is 675 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna put up a fight full quarter or two. But 676 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: I just feel that the way justin Herbert and these 677 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: guys are playing as a cohesive unit right now, that 678 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: they're going to overwhelm them before that game is over. 679 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: Short the final thing, lights out, extreme fighting. What's the latest? 680 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: What do you got cooking right now? You know, the 681 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: funny part is we were supposed to have a fight 682 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: this Friday out here, and I was gonna make it 683 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: a very very rivalry special for Lights Out Extreme Fighting. 684 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: We couldn't pull it off. We couldn't get the dates 685 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: in time. But you know, all of our fights are 686 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: still there on Fullball Sports Football TV to check us out, 687 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: and we do have some big announcements coming up, some 688 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: more dates outside of California as well, and some big 689 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: tournaments we're looking at putting on. There we go. Maybe 690 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: we can get you in Kansas City or Tennessee or 691 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: Cincinnati or wherever we are for that first playoff game. 692 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: We'll set up a lights out on Friday night going 693 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: into that playoff contest. There you go, make it happened, Sean. 694 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: We will see you at Allegion on Sunday, my man, 695 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: all right, can't wait? All right, buddy, let's bring it. 696 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: Jack Collinsworth and Jack, when did you find out Chargers 697 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Raiders and did you have an inkling that this would 698 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: be the destination here in week eighteen. It's kind of 699 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: funny because we have all those vans, you know, we're 700 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: sitting all the production trucks and we have our own 701 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: little sort of corner of the trailer, or we have 702 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: the TVs and we watch all the games on Sunday 703 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: and everybody's watching all the different matchups. Score, Well, this happens, 704 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: then we're in Cleveland. If that match if that happens, 705 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: we're in Vegas. And I gotta say probably the most 706 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: popular was a trip to Vegas and exactly that. Yeah, 707 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: no doubt. And I look, you've seen both of these 708 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: teams already this year. Just kind of your thoughts, Jack 709 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: on what you saw Sunday night Football Chargers Steelers. I mean, 710 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: it was an awesome game. Looked like it was going 711 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: to be a blowout, but it never is with the Chargers, 712 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: And just sort of your impressions of where we're at 713 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: now with this team at nine and seven and fighting 714 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: for a playoff spot with its final contest. I don't 715 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: think the future is bright, right, not many You don't 716 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: want to trade places with many other teams, many other 717 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: quarterback situations. And I'm in Cincinnati right now. We were 718 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: just talking about that, and I see a whole bunch 719 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: of parallels between the Bengals and where the Chargers are. 720 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: And it's a young quarterback and you'll have those multi 721 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 1: interception games and tough moments, and you're gonna go up 722 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: and you're gonna go down, and it's never gonna be 723 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: the perfect smooth sailing. And it's not even that for 724 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, right, But he's a little more consistent. Aaron 725 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: Rodgers get a little more consistency. Just think you hit 726 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: a little of those learning curves. But there's no quarterback 727 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: that I would trade for Joe Burrow, And if I 728 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: were you guys, there'd be no quarterback that I would 729 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: trade for Justin Herbert. So you just kind of live 730 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: with it and learn with it and grow with them. 731 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: But I think both these guys are ahead of schedule, man, 732 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: I really do. Like I think the Bengals are going 733 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: to put together a potential playoff run here and one 734 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: game away for the Chargers to go do the same. 735 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: What do you make of the Charges right now? Jack? 736 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: This late in the year, obviously, you know, with these 737 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: COVID issues, a lot of teams had some difficulties at 738 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: the end of the year, and the Chargers difficulty was 739 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 1: in Houston right after Christmas, losing that game to the Texans, 740 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: but appeared to be full strength now. Justin Herbert Humming 741 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: and you know, we've been talking about Darwin James all 742 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: podcasts and just the impact that he has on the 743 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: defensive ends. He's pretty amazing. Derwin James is pretty amazing. 744 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: And I think you got to saw a little bit 745 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: of his leadership stuff last week too. I was watching 746 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: that miked up in the relationship that he has with 747 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty cool. And I know a 748 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: bunch of those guys. I know Bosa and you had 749 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: some Notre damers there as well. Drew Frank who was 750 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: basically a strong safety and he had all kinds of 751 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: knee injuries man at least two or three one in 752 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: high school, maybe two at college, one of them even 753 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: when he was celebrating, and he's sort of converted safety 754 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: now linebackers. You see that position evolved. Jerry Tillery's another one. 755 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: I saw he had a sack last week. I can 756 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: remember Jerry Tillery coming into Notre Dame when we were 757 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: there and the very first practice as an early en 758 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: role lead Brian Kelly being like, who the heck is 759 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: that guy? He played a bunch all four years and 760 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: so to finally see his career sort of come back around, 761 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: and I think he's being productive now too, has been 762 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: very cool for me to watch. But I think this 763 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: team's got a great offensive line. Austin Ekelers creates that 764 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: natural leverage. He's one of the hardest backs to bring 765 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: down anywhere in football that I watch. And then you 766 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: have two of the best receivers and Mike Williams and 767 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. Finally getting to see them have a quarterback 768 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: throwing the football like Justin Herbert's pretty dang exciting. So 769 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: I think this team's got basically everything and they can 770 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: go compete with Kansas City. We've already seen that. So 771 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: if you can go beat them, I don't I don't 772 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: think there's any reason to think they can't get out 773 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: of the AFC if they get hot at the right time. 774 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: You know what, Just keep running with that, Jack, because 775 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: you've seen all these teams, you know. I mean, like, 776 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: when you look at the AFC, do you feel like 777 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: there's a favorite? Is there a team that you feel 778 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: has distanced itself when you look at the top, you 779 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: still you still they feel like Kansas City's probably that 780 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: that best team any given week, if there was, I 781 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: still feel like they're gonna be the favorite. Now Tennessee. 782 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: If they get Derrick Henry back, that's a physical group 783 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: and I feel like they always get overlooked a bit, 784 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: and I don't really know why or how that they 785 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: get overlooked. But Ryan Tannehill has really been a good 786 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: quarterback there and he knows how to play within that offense, 787 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: and they play hard for Vrabel and if they they're 788 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: running well without Derrick Henry. So if Derrick Henry comes back, 789 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: and he very well may have gone for two thousand 790 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: plus this year, he was, he was on some crazy 791 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: terror before he got hurt. And I also think about 792 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: fresh legs, right with all these other guys who have 793 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: played eighteen weeks. If he comes back and he's healthy 794 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: and fresh, that could be a scary sights. That's another team. 795 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: But I've seen coach Staley game plan for Kansas City, 796 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: and those are some good game plans and he makes 797 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: them go, you know, twenty throws to get the ball 798 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: down the field, and I think that's the formula. I mean, 799 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals just somehow beat the Chiefs just going out 800 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: dual mode with Patrick Mahomes and you don't see that 801 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: strategy work often. But Joe Burrow was able to overcome, 802 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: and I think I think the Chargers have a much 803 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: better defensive formula than I've seen most teams, and especially 804 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: the Bengals just had Jack. It'll be my first time 805 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: to Allegian Money. Have you been to Allegiance Stadium? No? Now, 806 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: we were shut out last year. I remember we couldn't go. 807 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: We couldn't go last year, So this will be our 808 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: first time. I know you've been there when it's a 809 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: packed house. Just describe the atmosphere and then what you're 810 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: anticipating Sunday night, especially it's it's a very different atmosphere. 811 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. And we've been to all 812 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 1: of them, and you know, we were in so far 813 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: a handful of times. Hopefully be back out there and 814 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: in your guy's homeland it comes Super Bowl time. We'll 815 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: see what happens with all that. But just the environment 816 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: there was very interesting because I thought you had fans 817 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: from everywhere, and you definitely have Vegas fans, but there 818 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: was a heavy it was a Chiefs game that we 819 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: were there for. You had a whole lot of Chiefs 820 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: fans too, and then you had people who were there 821 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: just to place bets right who just had a betting interest, 822 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: and it's got a really cool feel pulling up to 823 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: because it's the all black stadium, Like what the heck 824 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: am I even pulling into? And then when you get 825 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: inside of it, they close these black curtains so that 826 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: you just see the field and I don't know, it's 827 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: a very different feeling dome than any o them. It 828 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like Lucas Oil, it doesn't feel like the Minnesota, 829 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like so far. It's got its own identity 830 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: and honestly, in a lot of ways, it's perfect feeling 831 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: for Vegas. It's perfect feeling for Vegas, that outdoor set 832 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: that we have there. It gets crazy with all the 833 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: people walking off the strip, so one of our favorite 834 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: places to go. How surprised are you that we're here 835 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: right now? Jack That it's that it comes down to 836 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: Raiders in Chargers. I mean, there was so many of 837 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: us that thought, man, we might see four teams from 838 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: the AFC North, you know, just kind of the way 839 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: the season played out, that the Raiders were able to 840 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: figure out a way to just thread that needle and 841 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: get here to where we are in week eighteen. Yeah, 842 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Lamar Jackson getting hurt probably helped 843 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: the causes for both of those teams. You know, I've 844 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: been Roethlisberger sort of falling off in terms of just 845 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: his game probably helped. And then Baker Mayfield just could 846 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: not get healthy either. I know he's taken all kinds 847 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: of all kinds of crap right now, but he was 848 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: playing through a lot just trying to survive this season. 849 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: I think he's a much better quarterback than he was. 850 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: But there's definitely some surprise, you know. I just just 851 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: the fact that the Raiders, with all that happened in 852 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: Vegas this year, that they're in this position. I think 853 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: you got to give a ton of credit to Derek 854 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: Carr and you know, Crosby, some of the leadership on 855 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: that team. Waller just that they were able to battle 856 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: to this point. And then, like we were talking about 857 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: with La, I'm not surprised at all by them. I 858 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: really thought that they would be a winner too, better 859 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: than they are right now. And I think it just 860 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: comes down to you fast forward a year or two 861 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: years in the career of Justin Herbert. He's not going 862 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: to lose those games, but sometimes it just takes a 863 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: bit of a learning curve and I think we saw that. 864 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: We saw that with Burrow, we saw that with Herbert, 865 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: and that's why I see those similarities there. Jack. What's 866 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: this year been like for you? Man? It's it's awesome 867 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: because we always know when at Saturday football, it's the 868 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: biggest game, it's the biggest stage. I remember seeing you 869 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: after the game with Austin Ekeler and Keenan Allen on 870 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: the field Snoop and roding me. What has that experience 871 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: been like to do that type of stuff. Oh, it's crazy, man, 872 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: it is. It's as crazy as it looks. It is 873 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: that crazy. I mean, we're hanging out in the tunnel 874 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: there with Snoop and that was that was that Charger 875 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: Steelers game. You start to get a lot of them 876 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: mixed up, to be honest with you, but we're sitting 877 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,959 Speaker 1: there hanging out in the tunnel with Snoop's a huge 878 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: Steelers fan, and so Snoop's rooting like hell for the 879 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: Steelers to win the game. And it looked like they 880 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: were going to win the game for a long time. 881 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: Then they hit the game winner down the sideline. You 882 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: saw Snoop kind of melt and then he has to 883 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: go talk to the guys who just beat his Steelers. 884 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: So there's there's been a lot of surreal moments, but 885 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: you just try to live in them, and I don't, 886 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, I just try to. I'm really good friends 887 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: with Rodney, which I think helps because I could just 888 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: you know how it is, whenever you're going through some 889 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: crazy experiences, if you're doing it with a friend, it 890 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: sort of helps to calm you down and just let 891 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: you live in that moment. So I've sort of leaned 892 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: on Rodney. And the cool thing is that all of 893 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: these different cities and all of these memories, we get 894 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: to share them collectively. And Big Showski our researcher too, 895 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: so we have stories to tell collectively, which which makes 896 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: it off on. You know, the Sunday at football is 897 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: a different deal, right, It's a big intro. It's it's 898 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: you're sitting around all day waiting for kick. Have you noticed, 899 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: like Jack and covering it, have you noticed that certain 900 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: players are just wired to perform at a certain level 901 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday night, and maybe others just something's not right 902 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: and they don't play to to the level you expect 903 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: them to. Absolutely, absolutely, I mean you can just feel 904 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: because we're we go down on the field, you know, 905 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: two segments before, so it's about you know, seven to fifty. 906 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: If we're an East Coast game, we're on the field, 907 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: so you're seeing all these players warm up. There is 908 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: just a different energy about it, right, We've all been 909 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: to one o'clock games or four o'clock games, but when 910 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: you're out there at eight fifteen, these guys know that, 911 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, all of their peers are watching, families, friends, 912 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: You can just feel that. And also the buildings, right, 913 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean, there is a buzz and they a lot 914 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: of times you'll have it where they you know, they 915 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: roll some intro video or they shoot off fireworks. And 916 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: every week I have shills before kickoff and I'll take 917 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: those moments, even at lambeau Field where we make our 918 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: pick and we have these short of this group that 919 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: sort of walks off the field. But I always just 920 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: take a second and look around and just try to 921 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: soak it in because it's you almost can't believe some 922 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: of these cities with the fireworks going off and the 923 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 1: fans losing their minds, and you know, Aaron Rodgers running 924 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: onto the field or Mahomes or whoever it is, running 925 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: into the field. I live for that stuff, so I 926 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: try not to let those moments get away. Jack. We'll 927 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: get you ahead of here on this. Just what do 928 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: you think could decide this game on Sunday? The two rivals, 929 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: they're both good again, and you know the way that 930 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: Justin has played in primetime, it's it's in the back 931 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: of my mind for sure, the way that he's really 932 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: stepped up and risen to the occasion. Yeah, it's I 933 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: think it's gonna come down to those quarterbacks. I really do. 934 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: And I gotta make a pick and we got a 935 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: we got a heated pick battle between Drew Brees and 936 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: Tarico and all those guys, and it matters to us. 937 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: And so I all week I've already been thinking about 938 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 1: which way am I leaning with this? And it's it's hard. 939 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: And you know, I think Carr has shown moments where 940 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: he's clutch and that you know, he's a veteran and 941 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna have that experience and he's gonna have that clutch. 942 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna be at home and it's gonna be a 943 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: big game for his career, and I think he's gonna 944 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: feel that and shoulder a lot of that responsibility and 945 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: then you look at the other side of that. I 946 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: think the Chargers are a little better team, and I think, 947 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, Herbert has better wide receivers. I don't think 948 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: anybody's really arguing that point. I really like Austin Eckler, 949 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: I like their offensive line. I like Joey Bosa rushing, 950 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: and when when Joey Bosa turns it up to full speed, 951 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa can wreck a game, right, I mean, and 952 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: I think we've seen him sort of turn it up 953 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: to full speed. Derwin James's healthy, Casey Haywards. So I 954 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: like a lot of the Chargers and then he just 955 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: comes down to them. Are you willing to bet on 956 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert's clutch gene against cars clutch geen? Because this 957 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: is gonna be one of those games that comes down 958 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: to the fourth quarter and can you go make that 959 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: final drive? And I've been wrestling internally all week with 960 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: do I think Herbert can go make that final drive? 961 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: And I really do feel like he can. What do 962 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: you get, man? You guys agree? Yeah? I mean, you know, 963 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: for me, you know, we talked about it a little, 964 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit before the pod and I 965 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: said to me, it's it's defense. I feel like Herbert 966 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: and the offense of the Chargers is going to be 967 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: able to class that defense. It just feels like they 968 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: have too much and like we saw on that first 969 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: game when they went up twenty one nothing and really 970 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: just kind of stepped on their own tails a little 971 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: bit and not making that thing a boat race. For me, 972 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: it's defense. You said it. You know, if Joey can 973 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: turn this thing up. The old line of the Raiders 974 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: has been suspect all season, and to me, if that 975 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: defensive front can get things going, I think that's that's 976 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: what it's going to come down to, because like you said, 977 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: you know you can't. You don't want this thing to 978 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 1: be close. The last thing you want is to plant 979 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: that seed of believability in the Raiders because like you said, 980 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the guy's got seven turnovers in the 981 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: last three games, and yet they've won all three because 982 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: they've been able to keep it close. It's just it's 983 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 1: such a weird it's such a weird team. And you 984 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: know what. I know, Chris said it was last one, Jack, 985 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: but I do want to ask you just because you 986 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: mentioned Notre Dame a couple of times and you know, 987 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: we get a chance to be around Drew and he's 988 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: as good a person as you'll ever see. Would just 989 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 1: love to know, just kind of as someone who was 990 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: around that team. And I think you were there when 991 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: it forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think you 992 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: were there when Drew was there. Drew Tranquill, Like what 993 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: you can tell us about your experience with him at 994 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Alo he too, right? Alohe? Oh? Gilman for sure, man, 995 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean those are those are a couple of salts 996 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: of the earth guys, And I want to start with 997 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 1: Drew Tranquil because he was he was a heart and soul. 998 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: He was a heartbeat of the team when he was there, 999 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 1: and it was offense defense coaching staff like people would 1000 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: come to Drew to get a sense of the heartbeat 1001 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: of the team. And even since he's left the program, 1002 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: he still represents a little bit of that. Like when 1003 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: we were going through the coaching search and Brian Kelly left, 1004 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he was one of the first people that 1005 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: they were referring to, right, And he's got a good 1006 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: relationship with coach Freeman, who's the new head coach coming in. 1007 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: So he's just one of those guys. And even when 1008 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: he tores acl on the celebration, it was a second 1009 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: knee injury, and it was as low as it could 1010 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: have been. And everyone's going and that's it, and you're 1011 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: not going to see him, you know, probably play football again, 1012 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: at least not play football at that level with that 1013 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 1: many substantial injuries to that knee. And he just battled 1014 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: right back and he's right back on the field and 1015 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: now he's a position change. He's putting on weight and 1016 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: he's flying around at linebacker. He's one of my favorite 1017 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: NFL players to watch, just because I know how hard 1018 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: it's been for him to be in this position, to 1019 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: continue to evolve himself in his game, to be at 1020 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: the highest level is what I admire most about Drew. 1021 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: And ask some of his teammates about him. He's about 1022 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,439 Speaker 1: as good as a teammate as you'll find. Yeah, he's 1023 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: and he's been exceptional this year, no doubt about he 1024 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: is like that. When he got inserted and it was 1025 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 1: him and Kaisier white Man that really changed this defense, 1026 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: specifically the run defense. He's he's so smart, he's so fast, 1027 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: he's athletic. Man. I don't know if there's a better, Like, 1028 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: I truly don't believe there's a better player at timing 1029 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: up blitz like Ity's uncanny where he is the moment 1030 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,959 Speaker 1: that ball is snapped when he's coming out of blitz. 1031 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: It's crazy to watch. Yeah, yeah, well, it's it's the 1032 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: evolution of that position, right, because it's no longer about 1033 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: can you have a six three, two hundred and sixty 1034 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: pound linebacker that can run stuff? It's can you fly 1035 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: sideline to sideline? Can you cover? Can you blitz and 1036 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: get there? Like you're saying, I think he's a combination 1037 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: of being that new age linebacker with athleticism and speed, 1038 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: but he's super smart and safeties a lot of times, 1039 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: or lining up the coverages and getting everybody in position, 1040 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: and he's taking that knowledge to the linebacker spot and 1041 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: it's a scary accommodation and he's gonna be a big 1042 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,479 Speaker 1: piece to this defense hopefully Sunday. He did not play 1043 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 1: against the Broncos. I think he's a limited participant earlier 1044 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: in the week, so that's certainly something to watch we 1045 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: get closer to Sunday, Jack, you're the man. Really appreciate 1046 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: your time and can't wait to see you on the 1047 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,720 Speaker 1: Field Sunday night. Thank you guys for having really appreciate 1048 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: maybe you get a cup of coffee or a drink 1049 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: one day out there in LA around the Super Bowl. 1050 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate absolutely. Thanks Jack all right, Money, I always ask 1051 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: you at the end of the podcast your keys to 1052 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: the game. What's your key to the Chargers getting to 1053 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: the postseason? Now, I'm just gonna take my key on 1054 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,240 Speaker 1: a queue from Joey Bosa. You know he gets shook, 1055 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: Derek Carr does. He just not like getting hit. And 1056 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: that offensive line has been leaky all year. They've been 1057 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: trying to find place for Alex Leatherwood and he's the 1058 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: wal though. Find him, go get him, and I will 1059 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: not be surprised in the least if if Joey is 1060 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: moving all over that defensive line. We've seen how much 1061 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 1: better this team is with Justin Jones on the D line. 1062 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: You've got Lindball, Joseph and just that rotation at end 1063 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,479 Speaker 1: with Chris Rump and Chenna and factral to have that back, 1064 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: not to mention Derwin come and flying off the edge 1065 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: three four times a game. To me, that's it. If 1066 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: you can get to car he just I'm in the 1067 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: Joey bosat camp on this one. I know that he's 1068 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 1: got you know, we talked about it repeatedly with all 1069 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: our guests. He's got these twenty nine fourth quarter wins 1070 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: if you let him hang around. But he doesn't. He's 1071 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: just something happens to him. And I think that's the key. 1072 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,320 Speaker 1: You got to get to him by any means necessary. 1073 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like the secondary played their best 1074 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: game that we've seen all season long last week. I 1075 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: know it was Drew Locke and a banged up Broncos team, 1076 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: but I've got faith that the secondary, as long as 1077 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 1: they stay whole, they're gonna be able to hold up, 1078 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, for that X beat to allow those pass 1079 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 1: rushers to get to them. So to me, I think 1080 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: the offense is going to score points. I have confidence 1081 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: in the offense against this Raiders d even though they've 1082 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 1: you know, put up pretty really good numbers these last 1083 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: three weeks. Chargers is they're a different deal than a 1084 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: banged up Browns team, you know, a Drew lock led 1085 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: Broncos team, and a Colts team that really has not 1086 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: thrown the ball that well this year at all. It's 1087 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: been great defense. Takeaways Jonathan Taylor very one dimensional offense 1088 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: for the most part. That's not the characters. So I 1089 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: feel like the offense is going to get there's defense, 1090 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: get at you know, gatta get after that ass. That's 1091 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: what it is, and that wins this game. I'm not 1092 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: worried about the charges offense either. This is a game 1093 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: the defense is going to have to win them. And 1094 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: you said get after car. But also we saw the 1095 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: problems they had third down the defense really all year 1096 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: and then and then stopping the run. They remedied that 1097 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: last week against Jevanna Ta Williams and Melvin Gordon. They 1098 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 1: got after Drew Lock and they were good on third down. 1099 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: If they can kind of carry that over into Vegas, 1100 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: you're packing that justin Herbert led offense and a special 1101 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: teams that's clicking right now with Andre Roberts getting them 1102 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: good field position. If the defense shows up, Money, I 1103 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: think they're going to the postseason. Man, I'm with you, 1104 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: all right, guys. That's gonna do it for us. I 1105 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: think Money alluded to this at the beginning. I think 1106 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna see some powder blue at Allegian Stadium. So 1107 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: if you are there, cub, say hey to us. A 1108 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: big one on Sunday Night for Matt money Smith. I'm 1109 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 1: Chris Harry