1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercam. I'm a mother of poor, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of two and soon to be three 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: and a practicing physician. We are two working parents who 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: love our careers and our families. Welcome to best of 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: both worlds. Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode fifteen. We are discussing mornings. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: What we do with our mornings or don't do with 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: our mornings in my case, but Sarah does a lot 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: more with her mornings. But this is related to our 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: opening topic of sleep, which as parents of small children, 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: has become somewhat of an obsession for both of us. 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: How much are you sleeping these days? Sarah? I sleep 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: a fair out these days. You know, I'm kind of 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: like you, like I'm not necessarily an eight hours kind 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: of person. I know you'll get to your very specifics 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: number where this podcast, but like normally seven will do it. 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: But lately it's definitely even closer to the eight. But 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: the only thing is I have insomnia, which is so 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: unlike me. Like normally I can sleep through anything, Like 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: if I want to go to sleep at any moment, 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I can and I can stay asleep. But right now, 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: if something wakes me up in the middle of the night, 27 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: which random things often do, like my husband coming upstairs 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: or one of my kids, then I can't get back 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: to sleep. So I'll be away from like two am 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: to four am. And it's crazy, is that keeping you up? 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: Or is she sometimes it is that, Yeah, she starts 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: to and it's funny. I'm actually very comfortable in bed, 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: which is like I think it's because we have a 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: better mattress this time around, honestly, and I like kind 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: of have the pillow technique down, so it's not even like, oh, 36 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm so miserable. And by the way, for reference, as 37 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: we're recording this, I'm like almost thirty five weeks, so 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe there'll be a baby by the time 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: it air. But yeah, no, I don't. I think it's hormonal. 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a insomnia type thing. Yeah, so what 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: do you do? Do You just lie there? Or do 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: you try. I try to lie there and then I 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: give up and I read a book and then usually 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: if I read for like an hour, I can fall 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: back asleep. So at least I've kind of enjoying that, like, 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: and I have the perfect book for it. I'm reading 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: Crossing to Safety by Wallace Stegner, and it's sort of plotting, 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: but in a nice calm way, and it's like it 49 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: was designed to be read. Say, there's some books that 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: are good for insomnia, there are some books that are 51 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: not good for insomnia, and you got to find the 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: right thriller. Yeah, maybe sort of like slow poetry or something. 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: I've been reading this Mary Oliver book of poems, and 54 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: it struck me as I was reading it, Yeah, this 55 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: would be a good book for two am if I was, oh, yeah, 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: maybe I should get a little bit there. And you're 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: pretty uh, your kids are pretty good sleepers though, right, 58 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Oh yes, so I will say, like I guess it 59 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: was two nights ago my three and a half year 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: old did wake up at two am, and that's what 61 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: woke me up then. But like ninety eight percent of 62 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: the time they sleep great, They go to better around eight. 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: They get up between six thirty and seven, and you know, 64 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm past that point where it's like, well, my kids 65 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: sleep through the night, Like, yes I do. I am 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: not quite at that. But you are, my little guy. 67 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: It's only a year younger than yours, So this is 68 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: not even a year younger than you're. You're little guy. 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: But he's just he's just rough. He's been rough. But 70 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: I so I sleep. Sarah was joking about the specificity 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: of this. I sleep seven point four hours per day. 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I sleep seven point four hours every day. 73 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: That's an average. That's a long term average, because I'm 74 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: the time management freak who's been tracking my time for 75 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: two and a half years. And what was funny about 76 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: that is that I learned that seven point four hours 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: was my number. So I, you know, did my tallies 78 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: on the six months after I made it through six months, 79 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: and it was like seven point four hours. No, it's interesting, Okay. 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: Then the next six months was also seven point four hours. 81 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: And when I did the second year, it was also 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: seven point four hours. I mean literally the average between 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: year one and year two it was like seven point 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: thirty nine and seven point four oh four. I mean 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: it was within a minute that is so interesting. I 86 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: guess it's and you didn't track during pregnancies. Yeah, I 87 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: don't have that, and I do know. I mean, people 88 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: can sleep less for extended periods of time if they 89 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: have to. But what I think, what I think actually 90 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: happens for a lot of people who don't have chronic insomnia, 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: which again is like a medical condition that has to 92 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: be treated and all that. But most people who don't 93 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: have that have a set point that I do believe 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: they will catch up to one way or the other. 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: And you can catch up to it in very miserable ways, 96 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: like falling asleep in meetings or you know, like you know, 97 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: sleeping through things you should have been in. But what'll happen. 98 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: I'll see this on timelines is people will say, oh, 99 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: I sleep six hours a night, And what they mean 100 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: is they slept six hours Monday and Tuesday, and then 101 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: things fell apart and then they cracked and snap through 102 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: their alarm on Thursday. They took a giant nap on 103 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday. So yeah, you did sleep six hours 104 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: two nights of the week, but added up it came 105 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: to like fifty hours, which is seven point you know, 106 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: eight or whatever. You know, it's a different it's a 107 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: different thing seven point oh eight. Sorry my math is wrong. Well, 108 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: I'm definitely one of those people who does not follow 109 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: the adage of like keep the exact schedule every day. 110 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: I have like my weekday kind of schedule, and then 111 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: I have a weekend, and I definitely I probably make 112 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: up sleep to some extent, but mostly I just shift 113 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: everything later. Well, I and I don't have set hours either. 114 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: I tried to. I've tried to for a long time, 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: especially when my little guy was waking up at ridiculous 116 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: hours four forty five, five five, and then I really 117 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: during the week had to be asleep by ten thirty 118 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: because there wasn't really much opportunity to make it up, 119 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: and so I try to get in bed at ten 120 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: and so i'd hopefully get ten to five and get 121 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: the seven hours, and then I would average to my 122 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: seven point four with getting to take naps on weekends 123 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,559 Speaker 1: and stuff. But it's gotten a little better, and because 124 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: it's been getting a little better in the morning, I 125 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: start staying up later because that's my natural inclination. Inclination donation. Yeah, So, 126 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: which which brings us if I may to segue into 127 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: our main episode on morning routines, because I am somewhat 128 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: obsessed with people's morning routines. I wrote a book about 129 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: people's morning routines which had this really clickbait headline called 130 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: what the most successful for Breakfast? But Sarah is one 131 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: of these people who has a really good morning routine. 132 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: So what does yours look like these days? Well, thirty 133 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: five weeks pregnant, but like, okay, during a time, Well, no, 134 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing the same thing now thirty five weeks pregnant 135 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: that I do not pregnant. So actually that part's fair. 136 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: And as an aside, I said this before, like to me, third, 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: try like, I'll take it any day over first, try like, 138 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: I feel pretty normal most of the time, to be honest, 139 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: but I was gonna say, total disclaimer is that I'm 140 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: like one hundred percent lark like and I know that's 141 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: in my nature and my parents actually both I would 142 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: say lean that way. Well, my dad more than my mom, 143 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: and I must be genetic or something, because I just 144 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: I have a much easier time getting up to an 145 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: alarm and getting up early than I do staying up 146 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: and that's not always a great thing. I mean, it's 147 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: rewarded in our society because you can get a lot 148 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: done in the morning. You know, you're not late for stuff. 149 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: But then it's kind of like less fun sometimes because 150 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: I know, if I go to a movie and it's 151 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: starting at nine, like unless the movie is riveting, I'm 152 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: gonna fall asleep against my will. So it's not necessarily 153 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it's seen as this like great thing, 154 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: and I think it has good size and it has bad. 155 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: The good side, I's able to stay up till one 156 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: am on the party night or something. I really do, 157 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, and I try, but like even in college. 158 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean in college, being a lark meant you got 159 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: up at like nine, although sometimes I would take eight 160 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: am classes for that reason cause I was like, I 161 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: don't mind, I'll do you. Actually, I'm going to get 162 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: it like one on classmates exactly, But then I would 163 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: be jealous of my roommate who would like sleep till 164 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: two pm every day and stay up till like five 165 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: or six eight, you know what I mean. Like, so 166 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: it's all relative, but currently okay, So my morning routine 167 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: definitely different from college. I usually get up between four 168 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: fifty and five am. Sometimes I set it for four 169 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: fifty because then I just feel like I can get 170 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: downstairs by five am. So that's a little maybe a 171 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: little compulsive, but whatever, I kind of like it. And 172 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: then lately, actually I've been trying really hard not to 173 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: look at my phone before I like as the first thing, 174 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: because I'll notice that the minutes just go by. So 175 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: I saw it somewhere, probably on my phone ironically, but 176 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: really like I just don't look at it. I come downstairs, 177 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: I kind of plan out the day. I have been 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: going back to trying a short little meditation like five 179 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: minute kind of a session, so that's kind of fun. 180 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: And then I either write a blog post or I 181 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: sort of do my own organizational tasks or journaling, like 182 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, something that's gonna stay private. And I don't 183 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: have like a plan like Monday I do those Tuesday 184 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: do this. It's just like whatever feels right that day. 185 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't usually do work work. It's more like strategic planning, 186 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: like I'm planning out the week or I'm planning out 187 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: the month, or I'm you know, thinking about what I 188 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: want to do for the weekend or even like if 189 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: I have I don't know, an intricate day with a 190 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: bunch of moving parts. I'm thinking about how that's gonna work, 191 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: so that I drink my coffee. I kind of hang 192 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: out that last till about five forty five forty five, 193 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: and then I usually if I'm gonna if it's a 194 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: workout morning, which I try to do like at least 195 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: two usually three weekdays, but sometimes it's two, but usually 196 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: it's three. Then and by five forty five I start 197 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: running or doing our workout, and then I'm done by 198 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: before six thirty. I shower, and then the kids are 199 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: up by then. So once the kids are up, it 200 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: just becomes kind of like family hangout breakfast, and then 201 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: our Nanni comes at seven thirty and I leave for 202 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: work at seven forty five, so that's pretty much. I 203 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: get a lot done in that, I guess, and at 204 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: two hour and forty five minute firing, you got the 205 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: long term planning, right, So that's sort of I think 206 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: of that as workish kind of thing, even if it's not, 207 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, your main job focus necessarily, but and the 208 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: long term stuff. Sometimes I'm thinking, like this morning, it's 209 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of the month, and I was like sort 210 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: of putting together like my work goals and my personal 211 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: goals and what do I need to get done work 212 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: wise and home wise before the baby's born. So yes, 213 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: it can, it can. There can be some work flavors, 214 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: and then you've got the personal in the form of 215 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: the workouts and the meditation, and then you've got the 216 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: kid time in the morning that you have family breakfast. Yeah, 217 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: and I've that kid time counts. I mean, that's you know, 218 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: it's not it's usually an hour. It's not tons and 219 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: tons of time. But between the time that I'm done 220 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: with my shower and the kids are up and I 221 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: have breakfast with them, it is a fairly quality hour. 222 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: And Wes, we've talked about dinner everyone's cranky, but breakfast 223 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: everyone's usually kind of happy and cute. And I really 224 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: so just a logistical question here. Does your alarm wake 225 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: your husband up? Or is it? How does he feel 226 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: about the four fifty alarm? No, he doesn't get to 227 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: ever complain about my alarm because he tends to set 228 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: his for like even earlier and then snooze fifty times. 229 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: So sorry, Josh, I mean, actually he's really trying. But 230 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: this morning I think it went off. His went off 231 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: at four because he had some ambitions to do something, 232 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: and then I said, please don't snooze, Please don't snooze 233 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: because of my like sleep issues, because currently it didn't 234 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: honestly never would bother me, but now it does. And 235 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: then he didn't snooze, and then mine went off at 236 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: four fifteen. I don't think it. We're both really what 237 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: is he doing at four am? I think he was 238 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: planning on gutting up, probably to do some patient notes, honestly, 239 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: and maybe run because last night was Halloween and he 240 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: did not get to get in a run that he 241 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: wanted to do. He wants to get a lot done 242 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: in the morning, but I think he is much less 243 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: naturally able to wake up early and much more easily 244 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: able to stay up late. So in his case, I 245 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: think it's tougher because there's a bit of fighting the 246 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: natural tendency. But I don't know. Neither of us really 247 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: bother each other with the alarm. Plus mine is not 248 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: that loud. I have this kind of it's like, you know, 249 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: I set a custom one on my iPhone and it's 250 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: like a song that starts and it's pretty I usually 251 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: hear it right when it first does, because again I 252 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: wake up pretty easily, so it's not like some loud 253 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: thing jangling over and over again. It's like two bars 254 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: of like a fairly quiet song and like, yeah, I'm 255 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: out of there. And that's what they cautioned people if 256 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: they're trying to do morning routines that if your spouse 257 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: is not also getting up to do their morning routine, 258 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: you need to come up with a system that is 259 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: not going to massively annoy him or her. Well, it's 260 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: so funny because I guess some couples like the morning 261 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: wake ups, would bother each other. But you have to 262 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: keep in mind also like he did residency and surgery 263 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: and be like out the door by five am, and 264 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: I never remember, and I just don't think it really 265 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: ever like bothered, Like I didn't hear it. I don't know. 266 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: We're good at like ignoring each other. And the book's good. 267 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: It didn't bother me, and I don't generally bother him. 268 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: So I think we're just good sleepers. Except I'm pregnant. Yeah, 269 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: But so you get all this time to do all 270 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: this productive stuff, and by getting up early and to 271 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: make that happen, you go to sleep at nine thirty 272 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: at ninth though, right, yep, you got it, at least 273 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: by ten. I mean usually I'm like kind of headed 274 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: upstairs by like nine, nine thirty, and then if the 275 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: book is really good, maybe I'll last till ten and 276 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: then I'll pass out. So it's usually it usually turns 277 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: out to be about seven hours most weekdays. But I 278 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: don't run every day. So like, so I didn't run 279 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: today because yesterday was crazy. I couldn't believe how many 280 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: steps I got, and I'm like, I need to rest. 281 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: So I think I got up at like five thirty, 282 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: So I'll alter it. If I don't want to run, 283 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: I'll wake up a little later. And then this morning, 284 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: like I just like it was five thirty, so I 285 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: guess I slept a little bit more and I think 286 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: I went to bed a little bit after ten. So 287 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: there's flexibility that it's not exactly the same every day. 288 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: Well that's yeah, that's great. I don't have a morning routine, 289 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: not at all. Well, I mean there is one, but 290 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: it's not really dictated by me in the sense that 291 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: I would say most mornings of the week, I wake 292 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: up to the two year old shouting, Mommy opened my door. 293 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: Mommy opened my door. Because he is he is not 294 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: safe to wander around the house by himself, so we 295 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: have a child block on his door, so he hasn't 296 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: figured out how to get himself out of there yet. 297 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: But but that doesn't mean he wants to stay in 298 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: his room. So he's screaming, like open my door, open 299 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: my door. The good news is that has good news 300 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: is it has moved later. It is seldom yay, it 301 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: is seldom before six am now, which you know to 302 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: some people listen, Oh, some people listening. I've seld before 303 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: six am, like I'm I'm not going to have children, 304 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: but it was. It was much worse than that for 305 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: a long time. So six am I can kind of 306 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: deal with. Anytime after six is great, and often is 307 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: after six thirty now, which is good. My older children 308 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: at is much later than this. I usually have to 309 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: wake up the older children around seven fifty to get 310 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: ready for school, so that first hour is all two 311 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: year old time. If I'm home alone with him, meaning 312 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: my husband isn't also home, well we'll get up, we'll 313 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: watch some form of cartoonish television. So I'm partial to 314 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: I've been, you know, trying to manipulate this because I 315 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: hate some of the shows. So I can tolerate Go 316 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: Diego Go. I hate the Adventures of Chuck and Friends. Unfortunately, 317 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: he really likes the Adventures of Chuck and Friends, so 318 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: we have our little showdowns about that occasionally. Paw Patrol 319 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: is more doable. I don't mind paw patrol. That's not bad. 320 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: Have you tried Daniel Tager Ye, he was word by it. 321 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, he's like a fast paced 322 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: like my kids was my even my five year old 323 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: was sit there. You know, he doesn't He's watching it occasionally, 324 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: and he needs He even has gone against them. Kayu. 325 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: We like Cayu for a while, and then he decided, 326 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: you know which, Kyu's occasionally like obnoxious four year old too, 327 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: So I don't really mind the passage of Cayu into 328 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: the dustbin of our television history. Dinosaur, Yeah, Dinosaur pretty tolerable. So, 329 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're watching Go Diego Go, and I'm drinking 330 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: my coffee and I'm reading on my kindle. App if 331 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: I've got a good book going, so often I can 332 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: get you know, like the equivalent of forty five minutes 333 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: of reading in in the morning. So I guess in 334 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: that sense, it's like a morning routine of doing something 335 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: I want to be doing, but it's uh, you know, 336 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: reading reading on the kindle app while he is yelling 337 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: for things occasionally like mommy commercials or mommy want whatever, 338 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: cheerios mommy want Yeah, so uh that happens, and tell 339 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, seven forty five, and then I'm getting the 340 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: other kids up to get them ready, and that's about 341 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: the time ur nanny comes. If my husband's here, you know, 342 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: he'll he'll do the hour with the baby and I'll 343 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: you do other things. I'm I'll sleep oftentimes, or I'll 344 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: get up and do a quick run on the treadmill 345 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: if that's an option. And the two yearld's getting better. 346 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: It's getting to the point where I can shower at 347 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: least while he's watching TV. And I think pretty soon 348 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: I will be able to at least run in like 349 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: eight minutes spurts and then go check on him. You know, 350 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: if I'm running on the treadmill downstairs and he's watching TV, 351 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: and I'll be able to go down for like eight 352 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: minutes and run and come up and like make sure 353 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: that if there's commercials, I forward through and then go 354 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: back down so slowly I will get my morning's back 355 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: and it's not like running on a rolling running his 356 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: strollers and options. I've got the other three, so I 357 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: can't be not old enough yet exactly. Yeah, No, it 358 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: was showering in the morning. The good thing. The thing is, though, 359 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: with with morning routines is that it's really about doing 360 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: stuff in the morning that you would not be able 361 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: to do the rest of the day. And so when 362 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: I've written about people's morning routines, it's often with that 363 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: in mind, Like, you don't have to get up at 364 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: five am just to get up at five am, And 365 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: you don't have to have a morning routine if there 366 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: aren't things in your life that would work for that. Right. 367 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: So the truth is, I mean, if I think about 368 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: what would I do if I got up early to 369 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: do a morning routine, because I have experimented with it 370 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: in the past in particular, but you know, I'd get up, 371 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: I'd run, I'd probably spend an hour doing focused work 372 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: like planning and strategic thinking and maybe cranking out drafts 373 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: of you know, stuff that really needed my attention and focus. 374 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: But the honest truth of the matter is I can 375 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: do those things during the day. That's the upside of 376 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: self employment, right, And I totally cannot. You can't just 377 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: be like, sorry, I'm taking a little bit of flexibility 378 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: while I have four patients sitting in the waiting room 379 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: waiting for me, and I'm going to like, you can't 380 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: do that. Whereas if I'm you know, looking at my day, 381 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: I say, well, I intentionally didn't schedule a call between 382 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: let's say one and two pm, so I can take 383 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: that time and go run. And that's so if I 384 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: couldn't do that, then obviously I would have to get 385 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: up in the morning and run every day, and I'd 386 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: probably be a lot more disciplined about it, and you know, 387 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: i'd be waking up at five to make sure I 388 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: got up before the two year old. But you know, yeah, 389 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: because it's sort of like you in my case, like 390 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: would I rather get up? Wouldn't ID rather just wake 391 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: up when I wake up? Kind of But it's it's 392 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: it's really not it's a choice. I guess. It's a choice. 393 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: Do I want my free time to be in the morning, 394 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 1: before my day of work and before I've had all 395 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: the time with the kids, or do I want it 396 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: to be in the evening. And in my case, there 397 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: are like nine factors that make the morning more desirable, 398 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: like the main one being my energy level. But you know, 399 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: there's just sort of like, to me, my ability to 400 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: accomplish things, my desire to accomplish things, the clear headedness 401 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: of my mind, my physical energy, those are all there 402 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: in the morning, and none of them are there after work, 403 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: which is the only other real time that I might 404 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: have a little discretionary window. Like I know some people 405 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: are super productive after their kids go to bed, but 406 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: because that doesn't work, I don't have that much of 407 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: a well defined evening routine other than like hang out 408 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: with the kids and then pass out with a book, 409 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: whereas my morning is really orchestrated to take advantage of that. 410 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: So I think you kind of have to figure out, 411 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: if you have a non flexible job, like which one 412 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: works for you, because there's not a right answer. I mean, 413 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: tons of people do runs and all kinds of stuff 414 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: after work, but for me it has to Yeah. But 415 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: the thing is, even people who think they will after 416 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: work or think they will at night still wind up 417 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: with the issue of their energy levels being lower toward 418 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: the end of the day. There are some people who 419 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: are yes, total night owls. They are truly writing the 420 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: great American novel at night, or you know, planning out 421 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: their great business ideas at night, or they can go 422 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: run at night or whatever. That's great. Most people, like 423 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: if they look at what they're doing before they're going 424 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: to it tends not to be really high value activities. 425 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's we have leisure time at night, but 426 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: we spend it kind of puttering around the house or 427 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: like on social media, watching a lot of TV and stuff, 428 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: and many hours can pass that way, but it's hard 429 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: to motivate yourself to do some of that, like you know, 430 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: important but not urgent stuff that Sarah is doing with 431 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: her morning routine. And so for a lot of people, 432 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: it would work better to try and cut that puttering 433 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: off earlier at night, go to bed a little bit earlier, 434 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: wake up a little bit earlier, turn some of those 435 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: unproductive evening hours into productive morning hours. Like you know, 436 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: people say I'll do it at the end of the day. 437 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: It's like, well, you'll do it with whatever time is 438 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: left over, But then it turns out that there's not 439 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: any time left over. Yes, it's factory and energy too. 440 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge part of the equation. Do 441 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: you have any more any morning routine on weekends because 442 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: I have much less of one. Yeah, I mean some 443 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: some weekend mornings I've tried to every couple of weeks, 444 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: I go for a long run with one of my 445 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: friends around here. We go to a local trail and run, 446 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, some number of miles eight usually or ten 447 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: if she's training for something, and it's it's good because 448 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: she's fast and I'm not really that fast, but it 449 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: forces me to be fast. So any of my long 450 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: runs that have actually been done at a speedy pace 451 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: have been because she's been pacing me pretty much. So 452 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, we do that like and that's get up 453 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: and do that. I love when I can do that. 454 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: In the weeks. Sunday mornings, I'm now getting myself to 455 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: church relatively early because I joined the church choir, and 456 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: so we have rehearsals at nine o'clock on Sunday morning, 457 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: and so I have to get up on time to 458 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: get myself there before the ten o'clock service. Then, so 459 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: we have rehearsal at nine and ten o'clock is the service. 460 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: So I guess that's my Sunday. So in other way, yeah, 461 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes I do I like to get up 462 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: on Saturday and run and Sunday go to church, and 463 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: it's not quite as early as it would have to 464 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: be during the week, but you know, it's so kind 465 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: of nice. That is nice. I always like waffle between 466 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: wanting to just sort of like get up early and 467 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: get my runs out of the way on weekends, but 468 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: the truth is I want to stay up later too, 469 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: so it doesn't really work unless I know I can 470 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: get a nap. So I typically just kind of sleep 471 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: till the kids wake up, and then my husband and 472 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: I will like try to take turns all those Sometimes 473 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: it ends up being me just because I am the 474 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: more natural morning person. And if I'm like naturally awake 475 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 1: when they are awake, I'm not gonna like, you know, 476 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: force him to get up if I'm awake in the bed, 477 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: But then I'll just get in my run, like after 478 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: he wakes up or whatever. So I don't have as 479 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: much of a routine on weekends because there's just not 480 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: the necessity. And I think, you know, even if you 481 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: don't have like Sarah's built in two hours and forty 482 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: five minutes for her morning here, but you know, even 483 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: if that's not gonna work, like still just taking like 484 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: thirty minutes to do something that's cool for you. Can 485 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 1: I think make life feel a lot better in many ways. Absolutely, 486 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: it's definitely because the day started on like, oh well, 487 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: I've already done something for me, so you know, how 488 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: bad can I get? And I've heard a couple of 489 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: people who've even done things like you know, it doesn't 490 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: work to work at home or to go whatever. I mean. 491 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: I know one man who went and did focus work 492 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: in the waffle house near his house. He had a 493 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: waffle house nearby, and he'd go and order eggs, not waffles, 494 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: because eating waffles every day would probably not be a 495 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: great idea. Eggs coffee, he sounds like coffee. But you know, 496 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: could use that hour to work and then come back 497 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: as everyone was getting up. In that way, he didn't 498 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: wake up other people as much by being there. So 499 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, you just sort of have to figure out 500 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: like what works for you, and you know, again you 501 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: don't have to do a morning routine. People are often 502 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: like surprised to hear that I'm not, you know, up 503 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: at four thirty doing stuff Like no, I am not 504 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: up at four thirty on purpose, except I've been thinking 505 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: about it. What am I what am I going to do? Like, 506 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: let's say something beautiful happens in the sense of my 507 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: two year old suddenly starts sleeping like the older kids, 508 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: and oh yeah, that's a good experiment because it is 509 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: going to come true. Like if I had to wake 510 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: all of them up at seven forty five to get 511 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: on the bus, I yeah, I mean, I it's hard 512 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: to because I do like to stay up late and read. 513 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know if I would stay up till 514 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: midnight and read and then I would wake up at seven, 515 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: get myself ready and then get them ready, huh, which 516 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: I think is totally I mean, as long as that's 517 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: your intention, and then that's valid because it's true. It's 518 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: like why why why get up earlier to fit in 519 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: a run if you enjoy staying up to read when 520 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: you can get your run in later, Like I know, 521 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, I especially in the summer, it's 522 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: good to do the runs in the morning. So then 523 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: i'd have to I'd have to shift that too. But yes, 524 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, whetherwise that must well, because you which 525 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: I hate the treadmill? Necessary evil? Yes, all right, well, 526 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: speaking of necessary evil, is how we get that into 527 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: our Q and a here I that was? That was. 528 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: We have a listener question this week from a longtime 529 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: blog reader who wrote in that she had a question 530 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: about school fundraisers and events in an already time crunch 531 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: She's got. So, this woman and her family recently moved 532 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: to a new state. They're now sending their kids to 533 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: the local public school. They had been at a private 534 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: school before. And she said, our new public school literally 535 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: has multiple fundraisers and events every single month, like selling stuff, 536 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: dine out night, spirit days. I can act for the 537 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: life of me, imagine how two working parent families keep 538 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: track of all this stuff? Maybe they just don't. Also, 539 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: how do they make time to volunteer in their kids' 540 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: classrooms on top of all this stuff? And figure out 541 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: where your time is better spent volunteering versus fundraising. And 542 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: this woman is saying, you know, she moves so she 543 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: currently doesn't have a job. She's going to find one 544 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: there in her new location in the next few months. 545 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: But she says, I don't even have a job, and 546 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm struggling with this right now. Maybe it's just that 547 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't take much to make me feel guilty that 548 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm not doing something. So how do we handle school 549 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: fundraisers and events? What a great and timely question. I'm 550 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: interested to hear what your public schools like. But ours 551 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: is the same thing. Oh my goodness, it's like crazy, 552 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: Like there's still citations. I feel like it's actually maybe 553 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: more for money than for time at this juncture. But 554 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: they do tend to like love to have like this 555 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: event and that event. Well, I mean, first of all, 556 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: if the goal of the event is fundraising, then your 557 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: presence at the event doesn't necessarily matter. Right. So if 558 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: if I mean I got invited recently to some like 559 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: swanky thing that's like gonna be at some nice bar 560 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: that's a week before my do it, and I'm like, 561 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: h yeah, that sounds fine, not gonna happen. But I 562 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: can donate and then do that really quick online or 563 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: in an envelope or something, and then like move on, 564 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, so because they'll still get their fund raising 565 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: that they want to get and I don't have to participate. 566 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: I mean, my general rule for like the actual events 567 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: for fundraising is like, if I think it will be fun, 568 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: then I'll think about attending for the fun social aspects 569 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: for the networking perhaps and if it doesn't sound fun 570 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: or like doesn't like seamlessly fit, then forget it. Maybe 571 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: I'll give some money. Maybe I'll do the next one, 572 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: because there's always gonna be a next one coming. Yeah, 573 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: I am. I'm a big fan of like noting the 574 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: wrapping paper. You know, I don't want or need the 575 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: wrapping paper, and it's it's so I don't want to 576 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: buy stuff. I'd rather literally just check because it is 577 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: such an inefficient way to get the school money. So yeah, 578 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: I'd rather write a check donate stuff for a fundraise 579 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: or whatever. And so one thing we did, I mean, 580 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: so we can look for opportunities to do that. So, 581 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: for instance, my fifth grader, they have a fifth grade 582 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: activity fee, which of course is not required. I mean 583 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: this is a public school, Like they're not going to 584 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: make you pay for your kid to participate in in 585 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: fifth grade special activities. But you know what I did 586 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: is I just doubled the fee and I wrote a 587 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: check for that, and so so I like, give this 588 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: to somebody who cover. So that's a very simple thing 589 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: to do. Like, if there's something that is a fee 590 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: that they're asking people for, just you know, top it 591 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: up if you can and that's one way you can 592 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: you can do that, you know. And as for volunteering, 593 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a tricky one. I've I certainly like 594 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: to do stuff with the kids. I also know that 595 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: sometimes it seems almost like there's a bit of a 596 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: make work element, because we do have a district that 597 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: has a lot of parents who are home with their kids. Yes, 598 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: like they want to I want to feel needed, or 599 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: like yes, no, I I do. I know what you're saying. 600 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: And and I don't know if your district is like mine, 601 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: but there are a lot of stay at home moms, 602 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 1: and and that's great, I'm I'm you know, if they 603 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: enjoy doing lots of stuff, then awesome because it's only 604 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: benefiting the kids. But sometimes, you know, I really have 605 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: to question do they really need extra bodies there or yeah? 606 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: And it is amazing. I know. Even the other morning, 607 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: I had to come into school at nine am for 608 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: a meeting, and of course there's the crush of children 609 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: coming in at nine am, right when school starts, and 610 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: I was walking in, they this woman could in the 611 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: lobby could see how sort of angling toward the office 612 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: to get myself, you know, permission to come into school 613 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: and she's like, no, no, come over here, and then 614 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: she was signing in parents who had meetings or any 615 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, contractors who had things that were going on 616 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: at the school so that the school administration didn't have 617 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: to do it right, And I was like, Wow, that's 618 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: pretty amazing that somebody just does this, you know, and 619 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: they have a different parent there every morning basically doing this, 620 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: and it's a way to free up capacity. They have 621 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: parents doing the sign outs in the afternoons, and that's 622 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: an incredibly valuable thing in terms of freeing up school 623 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: staff capacity to focus on other things. So I mean, 624 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled that people do it. On the other hand, like, 625 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, there's many parents who you simply are not 626 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: going to be able to commit to be there from say, 627 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, eight thirty to nine forty five every Monday. 628 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not something well, And that's that's the 629 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: nice thing about I feel like I don't even have 630 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: to like, like, actually there were I think there was 631 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: a PTA meeting today and I was like, I didn't 632 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: even like write it down because I'm at work. And 633 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: then the truth is like, I guess I don't feel 634 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: like I'm missing that much. I know, that they give announcements, 635 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: and I do read the announcements, and if there's something 636 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: that affects us, then of course that's great to know. 637 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: But like my actual presence at the meeting, I don't 638 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: think would have been all that helpful for me or 639 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: them's well, and so you know, what I've done also 640 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: is if it's something that really matters to my kid. 641 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: So I at first was being a bit ba humbug 642 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: about the school book fair, Like they have asked parents 643 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: to come in and volunteer for the school book fair, 644 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: and I did it the first year, and I was like, well, 645 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: this is insane. They don't need me here. They have 646 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: like five other parents in the library. You know, the 647 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: kids are not even really needing us anyway, because the 648 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: librarian is so incredibly confident she's running the whole thing anyway, 649 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: so it's not like we were necessary. But my kid 650 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: was then so excited to see me in the library 651 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: during the time that he was shopping for books, and 652 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: so I realized, well, this is a day I could 653 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: come in and help out and see my kids there 654 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: at school and they get excited about that stuff like that. Yeah, 655 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: and then that makes it fun for you. You You know 656 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, so yesterday I went in for 657 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: some class stuff, but I wasn't really volunteering. It was 658 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: more like, oh, this is fun for ann about and 659 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: it's actually fun for me. So I think if you 660 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: ask yourself that question like is it really good for 661 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: your kid? And do you want to do it, You're 662 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: going to naturally be inclined to do it. And if 663 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't fit those two criteria, just move on. There'll 664 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: be more then, and then vote for your local public 665 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: schools to be well funded and donate, and really do 666 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: donate if you can. I mean, there's some really great causes. 667 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: There are students who can't afford lots of things, and 668 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, people may be more 669 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: willing to put in time than money, but if you 670 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: are working and have the ability, then putting in the 671 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: money is probably pretty So I would say that's definitely 672 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: how we handle that, all right, Sarah, I love of 673 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: the week. Let's get to that, ah, my love of 674 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: the week. I wanted to stay on the sleep theme. 675 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: I love sound machines. And it's actually not how you 676 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: guys hear each other's alarms, is that you have no 677 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: we actually we don't use one in our room, although 678 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: I think we will put one back in there once 679 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: the baby's born, because I think it helps to like 680 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: mask those little tiny noises that you really don't need 681 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: to wake up from. But no, our kids each have 682 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: one in their room and it just plays like the 683 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: sound of rain, and I think it really helps them 684 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: not to wake up early in the morning hearing us 685 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: get up. And I think it really sets the mood 686 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: at night when it's like part of the bedtime routine 687 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: and they hear that song go on. I think there's 688 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a Pavlovian element to it that 689 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: I am not about to give up anytime. Story, so 690 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: we are all about the Sam machines. We use these 691 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: little like twenty dollars ones from Amazon, and I will 692 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: admit that like every time they get dropped, we end 693 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: up having to buy a new one, So they're not 694 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: the best made things ever, but usually they last a 695 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: year or two and well, yeah, that's a lot of sleep, 696 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: yes something. Yeah, so my my love of the week. 697 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: If I want to stay on this sleep thing here, 698 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: I'll say Max pillow soft earplugs. So unfortunately they're harder 699 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: to find out. I can only on a target like 700 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: CBS started only carrying that's our you know drug store 701 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: around here, they started only carrying their brand, like their 702 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: house brand, and they are not as good. I will 703 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: put that out there that the Max are batter and 704 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: there they're supposed to reduce the descibels while twenty two 705 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: decibels or something, so if you you know, you can 706 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: wear them for concerts if you wanted to. But they're 707 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: kind of ugly. So they're like this big wax chunks 708 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: that you stick in your ear. So it is possible 709 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: that my husband's snort. We'll put that out there. And 710 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: so for years, the Max pillowsoft earplugs were kind of, 711 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, the sanity saver in that regard. Yes, anyone 712 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: else has that issue now, I mean I sometimes, you know, 713 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: wear them even in hotel rooms though, because you never 714 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: know like what random noises there are going to be, 715 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: and so it's a nice way that if you are 716 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: the kind of person who wakes up relatively easily, just 717 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, if there's somebody deciding that they need to 718 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: yell something in the hallway, maybe that'll be the difference 719 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: between you waking up and not waking up and getting 720 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: a good nights, and they're not complete sound blocks. Do 721 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: you hear that? I mean, you sound like it's the 722 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: fire alarms that's going off. You'll hear that. I feel 723 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: like they're a version of a sound machine, because you 724 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: know you don't. It's in my years. Anyway. This has 725 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: been Best of Both Worlds Episode fifteen. We've been discussing 726 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: mornings and sleep in general. Tune in next week for 727 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: more on how to make work and life fit together. 728 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. You can find me Sarah at the 729 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: shoebox dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, 730 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: and you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. 731 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: This has been the best of Both Worlds podcasts. Please 732 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: join us next time for more on making work and 733 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: life work together.